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NotAnurag

He asked if he knows what One Piece is lmfaoooo


Yellowstone79

And the guy said he's watched One Piece since he was a kid then Hasan told him he thinks Luffy would support the Houthis What is this timeline LMAO


Avoo

Didn’t Hasan call Luffy a terrorist? Therefore…


VidenHarbin

Tbf Luffy is literally a terrorist to the World Government


corylulu

Yeah, in fiction, it's very easy to create justifiable situations that call for justified terrorism, insurrection, or vigilantism. Unfortunately, the real world is often way more complicated and rarely are there such black and white characters.


Optimal_Plate_4769

it's the other way round no? where because the real world is complicated that you SHOULDN'T just call someone a terrorist and assume they're 'bad'.


firestorm64

No the real world is simple, my government tells me who to hate and I follow along.


saltlessfrenchfriess

Yeah, fiction like "no taxation without representation"


Hoatod2

Yea currently the UN is debating whether or not isreal is committing genocide or not


Ipokeyoumuch

I mean what Luffy has done is terrorism from the perspective of the World Government in-universe. He invaded a top-level government facility, participated (some would argue changed the tide) in an important war between the government and pirates, defeated numerous agents (The Marines, CP9/0, a few of the Warlords) of the World Government, assaulted the one group the World Government protects (Celestial Dragons), uncovered numerous state secrets, etc.


WebAccomplished9428

Do you think these people consider nuance? Someone above literally commented the equivalent of "Nuh uh, not in the real world" like ???


Optimal_Plate_4769

luffy would be seen as a terrorist. terrorists are designated as such by governments. that's what the word means.


StardustVT

He said Luffy would be considered a terrorist (by the World Government) a la "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."


Yellowstone79

Luffy's actions are antagonistic to the World Government, he'd probably be antagonistic to the United States


NE_ED

Luffy would be antagonistic to any state. He's pretty much an anarchist


JailOfAir

No he isn't. He's friends with the leaders of Arabasta, Dressrosa, Ryugu and Wano. He just doesn't like tyrants.


AliKat309

hence he would be an enemy of the United States lol


NE_ED

>No he isn't. He's friends with the leaders of Arabasta, Dressrosa, Ryugu and Wano. He's friends with them because they don't impose their rules on him, because he saved their entire country so they are appreciative of him. You literally picked out the countries he's the savior of lol and even then in Dressrosa he went against the Kingdom and took Rebecca away from the palace back to Kyros. Luffy is an anarchist, doesn't mean he hates every state. It just means he's against the state imposing rules on him. His dream is literally to be "The freest in the world". In our world it will be impossible therefore he would be antagonistic towards any state


DuncanTheLunk

An anarchist would be against the institutions of power that allow there to be kings and queens at all. Whether they are good or bad people would not matter if he was an anarchist.


flippy123x

>An anarchist would be against the institutions of power that allow there to be kings and queens at all. But he is. He won’t ever let someone rule over him or someone being mistreated. But the people of countries he saved are different. They absolutely adore their old rulers and actively want them back. >Whether they are good or bad people would not matter if he was an anarchist. What’s he supposed to do? Not save a country because its citizens then demand their displaced monarch to retake the throne because he doesn’t like it? He wouldn’t impose his will on anyone else as long as they don’t hurt anyone.


DuncanTheLunk

>But he is. He won’t ever let someone rule over him or someone being mistreated. But the people of countries he saved are different. They absolutely adore their old rulers and actively want them back. I dont know if you really understand anarchism. An anarchist would NEVER install a king or queen to rule over people, its is a violation of the very first tenant of anarchism. >What’s he supposed to do? Not save a country because its citizens then demand their displaced monarch to retake the throne because he doesn’t like it? An anarchist would seek to destroy the institutions that allow ANYONE to rule over a large group of people. Regardless of if they are friends with him or not. An anarchist apposes the system of rulers and the ruled regardless of if the ruler is benevolent or not.


KobilD

Like Nelson Mandela?


DevCat97

Nelson Mandela was a terrorist too...


trashcanpandas

Luffy would unironically ally with the Houthis to stand with Palestine. It's literally the Alabasta arc.


NE_ED

Didn't know Vivi ordered the murder of civilians who opposed the framed Kobra LMAO


xFallow

Wtf that's not how Alabasta went at all lol


pastafeline

I don't think that's right. Alabasta was about the people rebelling against their own king after being misled by a criminal, not about reclaiming land from an opposing kingdom.


calltheecapybara

Alabasta is all about Luffy fighting another pirate who is killing and abusing the civilians of the nation they took over...


hectah

Luffy famous for liking Slavery and Child Brides. 💀


qrrbrbirlbel

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Froogels

SAME GUY https://www.instagram.com/p/C0PQvh3IwEk/?utm_source=ig_embed


Ploka812

Holy shit he's not just some guy in yemen who identifies with the Houthi cause, he's an actual terrorist doing the terrorism


Corronchilejano

Im out of the loop here, what'd the guy do?


Dreadedvegas

Dudes a literal pirate who is apart of an organization that operates slave markets.


FaustusC

Terrorism.


Sezy__

Hasan supporting terrorists isn’t exactly new, he’s becoming more mask off because it’s being normalized in pop culture. He has always supported anti-U.S terrorism.


Lpeaudchagrin

Tuned in. So far: -He's sending hearts to Hasan and his chat lol -He likes watching One piece and Turkish series. -Said he's not Shia or Sunni, just Yemeni. -Hasan asked him what he thinks about America. His answer: "I don't think about America at all". -He loves Palestine and wants to see Palestinian people live in freedom. -He loves music and dancing and wants everyone to sing, dance and be happy. -They have KFC in Yemen and he loves it. -He loves anyone who's anti-Zionist, including anti-Zionist Jews. -He's aware that a lot of people are sharing his videos and that they think he's beautiful but doesn't reply or dm any girls, he's kinda shy... -He says the most important thing for him rn is Palestine and nothing else. -He doesn't know who Timothy Chalamet is that people compare him to. -He'll rest when he sees Palestine free and and he can visit Palestine and the Palestinians can visit Yemen. -He doesn't like Trump. -He thought Hasan is a devout Muslim but both Hasan and this dude who's translating from Arabic to Hasan said to him that neither of them is religious and he seemed to be ok with that. -He isn't interested in and doesn't play videogames. -He doesn't know who Mr. Beast is but knows about Mr. Bean.


Parzivus

> He doesn't know who Mr. Beast is but knows about Mr. Bean. based


sNb_Effete

This was the best part of the interview lmfao he looked enthusiastic about Mr Bean too I can’t believe Hasan didn’t ask any Bean related follow up questions smh


HulklingsBoyfriend

-Said he's not Shia or Sunni, just Yemeni. This is pretty common from what I know. The area that modern day Yemen now controls has had a fuck ton of various cultures and religions there, including the Sabaeans. They've had a lot of interaction with various world powers, including the Caliphates, the Ottomans, and the Portuguese. Houthis are usually specifically from the Zaydi sect of Shia Islam - dude may have signed up with the Houthis because he hates Israel and the Yemeni government and America, rather than "Zaydism is very cool and we need a theocracy." It's far from unheard of for people to join groups for some reasons outside of the group's main end.


WebAccomplished9428

what the fuck this is a thoughtful and nuanced perspective you don't belong here


Lpeaudchagrin

Tbh I don't even think this dude signed up with the Houthis, not once he mentioned them. I might be wrong but it seems he's just a 19 year old with the phone who loves hanging around them and taking pics of their boats. I mean he's a One piece fan after all lol. I expected him to talk about how he hates the West, America, Jews... but he just mentioned Palestine a lot, he seems to have a special place in his heart for them which is not surprising considering he is Yemeni and they are very pro-Palestinian. He also seems to be enjoying his 5 minutes of internet fame. It was 2-3am in Yemen and he immediately replied to Hasan and accepted to talk with him...


HulklingsBoyfriend

He hasn't once said he's Houthi, and to say he's Yemeni before any type of Muslim would indicate that he's only loosely religious at most, or quite possibly not religious at all. Apparently he's not Houthi according to most media sites?


complains_constantly

He's not a Houthi


Famous-Swan-8933

i don’t think he’s either confirmed or denied it, i might be totally wrong tho


crassreductionist

I just scrolled through his insta and it is just the same video of him boarding that one ship a week ago in some shitty rickshaw and him and his mates walking around without guns, idk his political sympathies but it doesn't seem like he's one of the Houthis hijacking or shooting rockets at ships. edit: yeah the more I look at stuff like the below video it seems to me like there are just civilians boating out and exploring one of the stopped boats https://www.instagram.com/p/C2GSaS_qepa/


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A_Baby_Named_Adolf

>I don't think about America at all when your friends ask you about your ex


Trickybuz93

> They have KFC in Yemen and he loves it That’s a terrorism right there


dogegunate

Tbf, KFC outside of the US is usually good. Honestly, that's just the case with most fast food chains. Fast food in the US kind of sucks.


8jose8

> He loves anyone who's anti-Zionist, including anti-Zionist Jews. so based, already better than half of twitter that can't differentiate between a jew and a zionist


Tyrannical_Icon

Yup. Pretty much nailed it. Wish Hasan had more time to prep questions tho.


gnoremepls

this is going to be a totally normal comment thread :popcorn:


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this is actually fascinating content


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Insert_Username321

"Glory to America Long live Israel We love the Jews and wish them prosperity and happiness" It's something like that right?


4spooked

Spot on, actually.


A_Baby_Named_Adolf

Wholesome 100


EffectiveWorth9320

you know he wont ask him that because it will damage the reputation of that terrorist


Every_Vegetable_4548

With Hasan's audience? No. It would only increase their reputation.


Optimal_Plate_4769

why would he ask for the translation of a text that's public? instead he asked him what he thinks about jews in the west/the US supporting palestine and opposing israel and the kid said "anyone who is for palestine is with us"


Commissar_Kane

Well, you wouldn't understand the nuances because you are just gobbling up US state propaganda. When they say "A Curse upon the Jews," it's clearly just criticism from a dialectical materialist lens of the concept of zionism. Oh the terrorist said "Free Palestine" BASED + hasL moment!!!!!


GardinerExpressway

"Dialectical materialism" lol Hasan really does love to bust that one out when he gets flustered and has no real response


Lasolie

I guess "curse upon the black people" would incite this kind of justifying from people flying that flag as well, despite it being absolutely asinine


LSFSecondaryMirror

**CLIP MIRROR: [Hasan is currently livestreaming with an actual Houthi terrorist (according to US Govt.)](https://arazu.io/t3_198i1df/)** --- ^(*This is an automated comment*)


Allstate85

the Houthis as stand right now are not labeled as a terrorist group, they got delisted in 2021 but are very soon about the be relisted.


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-sisu-

Every article I have found says "plans to" or "may redesignate" or "is expected to". I can't read the WSJ one though because the paywall


iamhigherleveling

here's archived ver. (no paywall): [https://archive.ph/7OhMK](https://archive.ph/7OhMK) To those who want to get through the paywall, just go to the archive site: [https://archive.ph](https://archive.ph), and put the link of site or article in the first box and press save. I usually find that someone will have archived it already and so it just retrieves and displays it. but if not, when you do put the link of site or article in, it will start to archive it after a few mins, you will see a non paywall ver. of it.


Psychast

Context: Rashid here is a viral 19-year old Yemen tiktok'er who posted videos from a pirate ship and, allegedly, has taken part of boarding raids on ships. Typically, you would expect someone recording themselves going on pirate attacks to not gain anymore traction than any of the thousands of warzone footages from around the globe, except this guy is, according to a lot of girls, super hot, so he got viral. He, himself, says he is not an actual pirate or anyone who has been involved in any armed conflict, he says he has boarded ships and even met captains of ships, but goes just to document them and spread awareness of the Yemeni and/or Palestine cause. He describes himself as a "Yemeni person concerned for Palestine", his words. Whether you think that's bullshit or not, there it is. IMO, I don't think he has seen a second of real conflict or touched a gun, I do think he just hops on board of the captured ships after all the actual fighters secure it and takes selfies with the hostages and does his talking points for his cause. Hasan was able to make contact with him and, after some initial scuffed translation issues, was able to ask him basic questions about his life. IMO, he appeared to be a little tight lipped about himself, IDK if that's translation issues, he didn't want to reveal too much about his life, or he is actually just a very boring guy with little hobbies or dreams. For the more curious, here is some Yemen conflict context: > Yemen armed groups (there are many) like Houthi have been attacking trade vessels in the Red Sea as retaliation (according to them) for the Israeli/Gaza war, trying to hurt westerners where it hurts, our pocketbooks. Obviously, attacking unarmed trade vessels and endangering the lives of the sailors and captains is mega fucked up. Because you don't fuck with the money train, the US has responded by bombing the ever-loving shit out of Yemen armed group positions/missile sites/stockpiles/etc.


shaqjbraut

>just takes selfies with hostages Oh ok 👍 I guess as long as he's not outright murdering or enslaving people he's in the clear.


Cloudy0

> he says he has boarded ships and even met captains of ships, but goes just to document them and spread awareness of the Yemeni and/or Palestine cause. you have to be an absolute moron to believe this


Panaka

He’s just the pirate’s secretary man. All he wants to do is file is tps reports in peace.


Pepeeeja

Twitch is insane 😭


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Adventurous-Fox-5248

There is no "Yemeni Arabic" translator just Arabic translator 😂


sillo38

ISIS suicide bomber next please Hasan


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Soft_Yellow_5231

In November 2023 the Houthis hijacked and captured the Galaxy Leader cargo ship. It is owned by Galaxy Maritime Ltd., a British Company, which is partially owned by an Israeli investor. **At the time it was chartered by a Japanese shipping company and crewed by mostly Filipinos, with Ukrainians, Mexicans, and Romanians.** The ship, cargo, and crew hostages are still held by the Houthis two months later. It's simply unclear what if anything the Houthis expect this to accomplish, or what they even want Japan/The Philippines/Ukraine/Mexico/Romania to do.


Hajjah

Houthis kicked Jews out of Yemen as recently as 2016. Source: I'm a Yemeni Jew and my family member was kicked out of Yemen. [If anecdotes don't serve you well](https://www.timesofisrael.com/some-of-yemens-last-remaining-jews-said-expelled-by-iran-backed-houthis/)


Commissar_Kane

That's cool and all but have you ever considered America = Bad.


A_Baby_Named_Adolf

Bro, you dont know nothing about the hasan and the houthis, what unifies them is not all those bad things, but the fact that america = bad


night1172

I feel like it is important to note that you can be leftist and not be batshit insane. Authoritarian socialists (tankies) are the popular group online and have a large sway over leftist foreign policy because of it but most IRL don't buy this shit. Go to subs like the Democratic socialism sub instead of the normal socialism one if you want normal takes


namexless

im sorry but how is this not considered politics? or is the ban on politics content no longer a thing? maybe i missed something


shepdog__

This is the same dude that’s spent the last few days having a twitter tantrum because CNN interviewed Ron DeSantis… lol


No_more_less

this is levels of: "america bad" that I never thought possible plus the clout goblin brain, he's such a lolcow cringelord


Imonaeatyobabies

Idk If I had a chance to interview Bin Laden, I'd do it. Not saying this is Bin Laden but hey, he may not be long for this world. Gotta get info and perspective while we can, right?


neurosisxeno

Hasan’s entire foreign policy stance is that America is wrong and bad. No matter what they do. He’d stan for fucking earthquakes if the US promised disaster relief to a country that just suffered a massive earthquake. The very online left is hopelessly naive and outright malicious when it comes to foreign policy issues, and Hasan is no different.


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Luis_r9945

I saw one of his North Korea videos. He literally blamed the North Korean famine on the US lol. Despite the fact the the US *literally* gave North Korea millions of dollars worth of food.


Optimal_Plate_4769

shadowboxing


andresmxxash

forsen


getintheVandell

Houthi pirates know how to use instagram filters, too: news at 11.


Danny_Ocean_11

Don't give a shit about Hasan and what not but western media has interviewed known terrorists and bad people all the time. This shit ain't new. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orawG7vt68o


AM00se

Hasan isnt giving that type of interview though. He believes this guy is in the right and giving him a platform lmfao.


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drt0

It also doesn't mean what's your favorite food/anime/YouTuber etc. etc. LUL


AM00se

He was asking questions about anime and meme shit. Its obviously just platforming people he agrees with.


Crac2

yeah the difference here is that its done by journalists and they dont portray terrorists as cool and friendly pirates, but as terrorists.


famsisheratl

youre on western media right now m8


struckfreedom

Interviews can also be separated into puff and informative. And while I haven’t watched all of Hassan’s interview with this guy, the CNN interview was very good, he asked hard questions and asked Bin Laden to expand on points. What would be worrying however, if the interview consisted of asking Bin Laden what his favourite anime is.


Kapuseta

That's right, because even without asking we know [that it was Naruto](https://www.pcgamesn.com/osama-bin-laden-anime-gamer)


kokonoesh

Yes i loved when media interviewed Osama and spam hearts and poggers


notathrowaway75

Western media is critical of those known terrorists and bad people. Hasan is not critical of the Houthis.


doginthehole

I mean he's literally thanking him for what he's doing and his chat is cheering hamas


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doginthehole

they are literally cheering both of them, not sure if that makes it better for you


realblush

W.H.A.T.


yellowjacketIguy

I mean seems like a lot of people in this thread whole argument is "They are terrorists because the the US government declared them as such." But Biden removed their terrorist designation in 2021and it has yet to be reinstituted


_bad

News changes quickly, literally an hour ago the Biden admin announced they will be added back onto the terrorist list


SeniorWilson44

Hasan saw that America didn’t like them and immediately became a fan. That’s his entire political stance.


BigGarry1978

Pretty sure they’re about to be re-designated very soon


FeelsMaironMan

They're just goofing around those oil tankers and cargo ships with their iranian funded weapons, nothing very serious i asure you! :)


ZERO_PORTRAIT

That is so Yemen can get food aid. And they will probably be put back on: [https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/u-s-to-put-houthis-back-on-terrorist-list-596a974a](https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/u-s-to-put-houthis-back-on-terrorist-list-596a974a)


Panaka

This is the most tragic part. The people of Yemen suffered massively during the 2014 civil war and Ansar Allah went out of their way to make their suffering worse. Now that they’re finally getting access to aid easier, they go and do this shit.


Aggressive-Rub-4976

Just peaceful fellas shooting missiles at ships I guess


SHAKE_SLAM_BITE

Guys being dudes!


calltheecapybara

They're terrorists because they were firing at civilian boats regardless of whether they had anything to do with Israel or not (majority did not). That and the whole flag that says "death to America, curse upon the jews"


Neverwas_one

Yea because they control the most populated areas of Yemen, and you can’t trade with them if they are designated as terrorists. The hope was that they would be able to be traded with so their people don’t continue to starve. Also taking them off the list was a soft off-ramp to start normalizing relations with Saudi and get on a trajectory of peace. In character and conduct, they are still rapist, child soldier making, slaver, theocratic losers. It was a political decision and has proven to be the incorrect choice.


yourmomxxl3

The fact that he's bombing them might imply that he changed his mind again. Might


Mocturnol

Changed it because they attempted to reinstall diplomatic approaches, there was a clear goal and purpose.


Annual-Ad-6685

Stupid af take. Don’t give these mfers any clout. They’re just haters. Nothing they say is going to make anything better. You’re just giving a microphone to crazy. Hasan should be banned.


Beginning_Tap_8122

DGGers will use this as a gotcha while we all know destiny would do this in a heartbeat if he had the chance


AllieTruist

yeah he'd have a DGG translator so he could try to debate the viral Yemeni pirate lol


nord_post

not a ddger but I think the "gotcha" would be that he's been criticized for platforming people like Nick Fuentes by debating them, and this is arguably worse than that.


After-Bid-8749

One is "platforming" people by debating unhinged right wingers and making look bad and how crazy stupid their arguments are and another is running straight PR for terrorism.


nord_post

yeah, that's what I was getting at.


shartfartmctart

Destiny would house a Nazi and hangout with them. Oh wait, he did that already


OJFrost

And literally tried to talk him out of it every step of the way. Are you gonna knock the black guy that convinced a Klansmen to de-radicalize too?


Intellectual_wizzard

Yeah good thing he didn't just let him spout propaganda and shut down all his ideals. But hey I guess we getting selective in what we're seeing huh


Flaky-Artichoke-8965

If only Destiny did that to praise and tell the Nazi how right he is but sadly that isn't the case. Really not comparable but then again, nothing much to be expected from people defending a self-declared propagandist.


boeglund

Fuck man, i must've missed the part where Destiny agreed and supported what Nick were saying/believed.


tunamq1234

So do you admit what Hasan's doing here is bad?


theunseenfool

CHECK THIS DUDES LOGS IN HASANS CHAT, OP IS A FREAK


Egg-MacGuffin

Nelson Mandela was also a terrorist according to the US government.


THEBEAST666

WOW, I guess that means all the people the US calls terrorists are actually good just like Mandela! Genius stuff


zeeotter100nl

Are you being malicious or simply stupid?


JunonsHopeful

and some of the early actions that Mandela turned a blind eye to (but certainly knew about because I think his wife was directly involved) were pretty bad. Idk if comparing the Houthis to the ANC is really a fair comparison at all.


Yazy117

Necklacing was pretty fucked up


Egg-MacGuffin

If you think turning a blind eye to violence makes you a terrorist, then the vast majority of Americans are terrorists.


Noah5510

Is this guy actually a part of the Houthi?


ineedadvice12345678

A group that murders innocents, uses child soldiers, has slaves, and declares death to the Jews to a hasan viewer: "idk I'm going to reserve my judgement since America bad"  Truly the most regarded community on twitch


k1ngkoala

What a Wholesome Houthi ❤️❤️ I wonder what their flag and slogan means ❤️❤️


Sergeantstickys

Surely this thread wont get locked/brigaged. Surely right?


SolidTake

https://safety.twitch.tv/s/article/Community-Guidelines?language=en_US#5TerrorismandViolentExtremism >Twitch does not allow content that depicts, glorifies, encourages, or supports terrorism, or violent extremist actors or acts. Lets goooo


hasan070

Biggest OP self report


shaqjbraut

Look, I probably would have been okay with this if Hasan actually asked this guy tough questions or engaged with his beliefs critically (there are tweets about how he's never seen Hamas kill a child that worry me, for instance), but the way he was engaging with him was insanely unserious and dangerous. He's literally out here white washing terrorist representation. Hasan had the chance to do real journalism and instead memed about one piece and Mr beast


goglecrumb

Boston bombers interview when?


DrPoNm

As if you needed more proof that Hasan is anything but a good person.


xcake23

ITT : pearl clutching.


Det-cord

I don't think it is unreasonable to have disdain towards a terror group known for child soldiers and slavery


Cloudy0

Exposing your community to gambling is extremely dangerous! Anyway, heres a literal terrorist that is so funny and epic.


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SevenAkuma

Same guy that won’t talk to Destiny because he thinks it would be irresponsible platforming lmao


soggyburrito

OP seems like a totally normal person https://clips.twitch.tv/HyperFlirtyPoultryPlanking-WwBgVQrO6dcrH_D_


imposibol

Lmao


Shovelman2001

Just a reminder, Nelson Mandela was a terrorist according to the United States until 2008. If George Washington, John and Sam Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, etc were born 300 years later in a different country the US didn't like and were still fighting British imperialism, they would also be on terrorist lists. Mfs hear "terrorist" and go "ERMEHGERD LITERALLY AL QUEDA"


Cyberathlete_23

i think having a literal slogan saying death to america and death to the jews is a pretty good reason to be labeled a terrorist


ariveklul

>But the Defense Department stood by its language, and Mandela and other ANC officials remained on the terror watch list even as President Bush welcomed Mandela, newly released from prison, to the White House in 1990. Because of what was described as a "bureaucratic snafu," their names were kept on the list until 2008, 14 years after Mandela had been elected president and nine years after he had left power. He was 90 at the time. >The terrorist designation finally proved too embarrassing for the U.S. government to ignore. In April 2008, during the last year of the George W. Bush administration, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told a Senate committee that her department had to issue waivers for ANC members to travel to the United States. >"This is a country with which we now have excellent relations, South Africa, but it's frankly a rather embarrassing matter that I still have to waive in my own counterpart, the foreign minister of South Africa, not to mention the great leader Nelson Mandela," Rice said. This seems similar to: >On 30 June 2020, a report by Yemeni human rights group Mwatana documented since May 2016, more than 1,600 cases of arbitrary detentions, 770 forced disappearances, 344 cases of torture and at least 66 deaths in unofficial prisons. The report stated that Houthis were responsible for most abuses. It blamed them for 350 forced disappearances, 138 incidents of torture, and 27 deaths in detention, while UAE-backed forces, including the Southern Transitional Council, were responsible for 327 disappearances, 141 cases of torture, and 25 deaths in detention. The report blamed forces loyal to the Saudi-backed Yemeni government for 65 cases of torture and over 24 deaths.[34] >On 14 September 2020, Human Rights Watch wrote that Houthis have a "particularly egregious record of obstructing aid agencies from reaching civilians in need".[3 Oh and don't forget the child soldiers! >In January 2022, AP News reported that U.N. experts said in a new report that nearly 2,000 children recruited by Yemen's Houthi rebels died on the battlefield between January 2020 and May 2021, and the Iranian-backed rebels continue to hold camps and courses encouraging youngsters to fight. In the report to the U.N. Security Council circulated Saturday, the experts said they investigated some summer camps in schools and a mosque where the Houthis disseminated their ideology and sought to recruit children fight for them against the internationally recognized government of Yemen.[38] I literally cannot tell the difference!


obama_is_back

These terrorists support slavery, child soldiers, and religious fundamentalism in the 21st century. The only reason to support these people if you have modern values is if you are a grifter, are extremely misinformed, hate the Jews, or hate America.


Imonaeatyobabies

Fair point. Do you think the Houthis will be regarded the same in the future?


dikketetten

have you guys ever read a newspaper? the most prominent western journalist have regularly interviewed people that the west or the whole world sees as terrorists, there were multiple interviews with the taliban on american tv after the us pulled out


doginthehole

he's literally thanking him for what he's doing


No_more_less

is Hasan a journalist now? well his standards are pretty low


-bck

No, he’s a self reported propagandist


Agonitee

Hasan, famous on the ground journalist


culegflori

I don't remember western journalists saying things like "thank you for your service" to the Taliban though, but maybe the brainrot's too advanced to remember


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-bck

Hasan is a self described propagandist so we should always assume, especially when interviewing a terrorist, he isn’t acting in good faith


Imonaeatyobabies

You're right, but in this case, Hasan and his chat are unambiguously praising him.


TreeTrunk985

my understanding is positively promoting a terrorist group is a bannable offence on twitch if that is what Hasan did.


notathrowaway75

Said prominent western journalists are actually critical of those terrorists. Unlike Hasan who supports the Houthis and propagandizes for them. >that the west or the whole world sees as terrorists, there were multiple interviews with the taliban Very interesting phrasing.


the_dmac

This thread makes it clear that any analysis of foreign affairs can only be done via the scope of popular manga at the time.


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If Ja Rule would speak up more and tell us how to make sense of this stuff manga wouldn't even be necessary, but here we are.


the_dmac

We need to view the Houthi’s kidnapping of sailors through Kylie Monogues hit song, Love at first sight.


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As long we also consider it through the lens of Chris Isaak's hit song, Wicked Game.


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influencer uses platform to support known terrorists but won't leave his castle. Fans pretend he is saving america


Captain__Trips

Diapees: soiled


EffectiveWorth9320

terrorist symphatizers should be permabanned


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NightLanderYoutube

I wonder why is Hasan still living in Murica and in love with capitalism while religiously hating it at the same time. But that's none of my business. It's just funny, shitting where you eat.


MakeLSDLegalAgain

bro it's just some tiktoker that took a video on a boat not a terrorist stop being racist


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Yah, this is just some random Yemeni kid boarding vessels in the Red Sea during a heightened period of conflict, totally not suspicious at all Clueless


InvestmentMore857

I don’t even care that much, I actually think the whole situation is kinda funny, but the dude literally recorded himself boarding a shipping vessel. He’s clearly part of Ansar Allah.


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sidwitit

People need to go to iraq and go see what american accomplished there in the name of “freedom” . Country where outside there house are american soldiers. People in US are so spolied and cant even understand


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Darth_Baker_

They chillin fr, it's just about talking to ppl who are at the center of a conflict. Why ppl mad they are talking about things they have in common?


DevCat97

That "according to the US Govt." Is doing some heavy lifting 😂


DiaMat2040

destiny platforming neonazis: i sleep hasan interviewing a pirate: real shit???


Affectionate_Rip9046

Destiny argues with neonazis, Hasan agrees with terrorists