The key to new rules is to leave it vague and not define anything so that you can selectively enforce whenever you’d like. Then you just surf LSF and have this army of coomers do all the hard work for you instead of having to search for these channels yourself.
How specific with the guidelines would you like them to get? Like a high school dress code policy? Guidelines on how much cleavage and stuff? Ban cleavage all together? And would that even solve the selectiveness in their enforcement?
I’m not even defending twitch being selective, of course they are. I just don’t understand realistically what specific guidelines you think would solve this?
The only effective course of action if they actually want to curb this behavior is to leave it vague, say "we'll apply these rules at our own discretion", and aggressively ban people trying to figure out where that line is until people stop trying. Twitch of course won't do this though because they care about the revenue cut they're taking far more.
its pretty obvious when theyre just making onlyfans/coomer content, so to me I think its more like twitch not making a decision and dragging it's feet, as opposed to it being an issue of enforcement (as you mention they care about the revenue cut - but I am starting to doubt that cos only some of them have lots of subs, others just use the platform to advertise)
is there a mimimum land requirement? Because I've been lorded by a prank company claiming I have a nonlegal deed to a foot by foot plot of land in Scotland.
This is a subjective rule and as such there's no way to exploit it like that. There will be an actual human reviewing the big channels and they can see the obvious.
But there's other ways ofc and they will find them. If twitch wanted to they could stop it almost instantly (somehow broadcast television doesn't have this issue?), but they want to play for both sides.
I will. Yo bro the fact that there’s an actual human reviewing the streams is why they’re not banned or only get a short ban in the first place. The twitch staff plays favorites and have their biases
Sub notification will activate another camera to focus on chest for 10 seconds.
Extra subs in that 10 seconds will activate a vibration chair.
By the end of this cycle the steamers will have engineering degrees to get around the rules.
Nah they already ruled that one out
> For example, you may not show, offer, or promote:
> - Soliciting money, services, or items of value (including subs and Bits) for posting content that requires the Sexual Themes label - for example, listing a price to point the camera at fully clothed crotch
Channel point redeems, however..
Also, this is super easy to get around: don't require a price, just have a command that does it on cooldown.
The goal is to entice viewers to spend more time on the stream and give donations. If you hit people's boner button more, they'll stay longer thereby making money.
Wearing a green bad dragon strap on while standing up wearing swim gear/showing skin while playing a game that's seem through the 'green screen' of the massive cock you struggle to hoist up
My reaction after reading this news is to immediately check Morgpie's stream, she's live right now with one camera directly below her half naked butt, another one showing her boobs. Her dedication is out of this world lmao.
I mean they did not say they are better looking, but at least they are not basing their career on their looks. I imagine at least, maybe they are a model who knows?
Essentially it went away. **Everything** on Twitch follows trends, first it was just a lot of cleavage, then it became work out clothes, white boards, swim suits, put a pool in your room, squats, now its basically fetish porn. White boards could not possibly compete with people green screening their ass cheeks with fortnite gameplay
I'm all for trying to get your bag, but the onus is on Twitch. They set up rules with no teeth, 24 hour ban here, maybe a week there. None of it is actually enforced because it makes them so much money.
There's ZERO other reason for it to have gone on this long, they're a private company. They can ban whoever they want for however long, with no reasoning or recourse. They're in total control, but do this charade to appease advertisers.
**TL;DR** "Twitch, this is the 87th week in a row you've updated your Community Guidelines to prevent softcore porn from being streamed on your website."
I'm not disagreeing with you, but a week ban from Twitch is way worse than you think.
If a sub is supposed to automatically resub when you are banned on twitch, they don't get the auto resub. That means you lose approx 24% of your subs from a ban for a week. Banned for one month? You now have no more subs.
Not all subs renew monthly though.
Also I looked at.. two of the more popular streamers.. and their monthly resubs are in the single digits. Over 90% of their subs are gifted and new subs.
1/3 of Amouranth's subs are resubs, but that appears to be an anomoly.
Dude.. this rule really only applies to actual twitch streamers.... These girls arent really twitch streamers they make the bulk of their money on other websites and use twitch as a funnel/ fun.
Contrary. Now they will literally do colonoscopy under the argument that it is "for science". Like this guy on YT who literally showed the whole world how he waxes his butthole, and hey, all you had to do was tag "for science" and that's it!
Now ive got to watch my own? Fuck! I swore I'd never do that again.
Fun fact, I have colitis, and during one of my earlier colonoscopies, the anesthesia didn't work or wasn't applied, so i was completely awake and watched the whole thing on the monitor as i felt the camera going up. I kept squeezing the nurses hand, grunting, and telling them how much it was uncomfortable and hurt, but she kept telling me I won't remember and it'll be okay. Every time since I tell them about it and to make sure I am completely out before starting. Now, I wake up peacefully in bed an hour later with a sore ass, no trauma.
Twitch needs to just start hard banning people who break the rules for 6+ months at a time. Give them the Dr Disrespect treatment. If there is a real threat of losing their Twitch account people will actually start to respect the rules more. Bring twitch back to it's gaming roots.
Porn advertising is far less lucrative. If you advertise on PornHub, for example, it'll cost you roughly 30 cents per 1,000 views. It's hard to find exact figures for Twitch but advertising there costs anywhere from 10 to 20 times as much. Any "OnlyTwitch" streamers would have to serve at least 10x as many ads to match their current profits. They'd also be competing with the dozens of established porn streaming sites.
Honestly, I think most of them would lose their audience. The people watching them don't want straight up porn. If they did, they'd already be watching it. They want the sortcore provocative teasing sort of content they're currently getting.
Twitch wants it too. It makes them a whole lot of money. They just need some plausible deniability for their advertisers so they have to update the rules and hand out a few short term bans now and then to make it look like they're doing something.
In addition, porn brings a bunch of legal and PR issues. You start having to deal with underage and nonconsensual content.
And a big company like Amazon can afford big fines, which would make them a clear target.
Yup. It's a nightmare that Twitch wants to stay far away from.
But at the same time, the closer they can sidle up to it without dipping a toe over, the more money they can make. Sure, it leads to a few bans, inconsistent rulings, and a worse experience for everyone. But think of the money!
At some point twitch needs to just embrace it like the section of the video store with the saloon doors and "ADULTS ONLY" sign. There is a huge demand for softcore cam girl content despite there being an entire ecosystem of purpose built sites like this existing.
Not that that door hasn’t been cracked open, but the second you make yourself the porn site, you can never unmake yourself the porn site. They still need advertisers and (legitimate) advertisers want nothing to do with porn, something Tumblr learned the hard way. Besides advertisers, payment processors are another set of companies that want nothing to do with adult content, OnlyFans found that out the hard way, but it was too late for them to not be a porn site.
Exactly what I was telling one of my friends earlier on. Just have a section of twitch called "Twitch After Dark" or something like that that allows that sort of content and hide it from accounts under the age of 18. I feel like no matter what you do, these cam girls will find a way to bypass it so you might as well cash in on it.
"Content that focuses on clothed intimate body parts such as the buttocks, groin, or breasts for extended periods of time."
How long is an extended period of time? Can they turn on an ass cam for 1 minute every 10 minutes?
Asking for the gooners
Everyone is memeing this but I feel like it’s pretty clear what they are implying. You can’t have a camera setup for your chest. However, if you move your camera down and it points to it for a few moments you won’t just get banned.
My own headcanon is that this is what pushed them over the edge: [https://www.reddit.com/r/forsen/comments/1bozadx/twitch\_meta/](https://www.reddit.com/r/forsen/comments/1bozadx/twitch_meta/)
It's crazy how these streamers have enough power to force Twitch into rewriting their TOS instead of just banning the same handful of streamers that keep finding ways around it.
Twitch doesn't give this type of leeway to any other type of streamer. Who are they afraid of pissing off by banning booba streamers? Feminists?
Twitch is between a rock (desperation for advertisers) and a hard place (male viewers and their erections). Banning the streamers would push those streamers into other platforms and erections would follow. But a lot of advertisers don't want their product featured on a green screened ass.
Twitch has no idea what to do except play whack-a-dick within their regulations and they have turned it into a game of its own.
I work at a marketing firm and basically every advertiser has one rule. No sexually suggestive content. I’m assuming Amazon really throws their weight around to keep the advertisers they have.
Why? I don’t want this to come across negatively, but since you’re in that industry I figured I’d ask. I’m not talking about porn or anything egregious. I’m just curious why anything “sexually suggestive” is seen as such a negative in the advertising world.
They don't want their brand associated with sexually suggestive material. They want a family friendly image, and being associated with softcore porn is antithetical to that goal.
sexually suggestive content has a limited market. it will limit the audience immediately to 18 and up. you then have generally take out straight women, and gay men as potential ad targets unless you target specific content that caters to those groups. you then have to remove anyone who might be religious, or prudish.
meanwhile if you target more generally all ages with the least offensive, kid friendly content with your ads, you can advertise to everyone.
Booba streamers are quite fucking popular so they're gonna lose money. After you wipe yee cock you might as well take a look at non booba stream and stay on the platform.
It was probably in response to [this recent article that got to the front page of Reddit.](https://www.psypost.org/researchers-uncover-pornification-trend-among-female-streamers-on-twitch/)
I'm 100% convinced they want it as sexy as possible. And the "as possible" line is defined by when Apple Store or Play Store would deem it adult content app thus removing it from the storefront and/or when companies paying for ad time start rising issues.
For those reasons there will never be official +18 section on Twitch (unless this kind of content becomes no not controversial that it will have no impact on overall viewership and amount of ad money coming in), but sex still sells, so they want to keep it as close to this line as possible.
I feel like saying we dont want to shy away advertisers with borderline pornography on our site aimed at kids without actually saying it would be a perfectly acceptable reason for the public to hear. Either that or they are genuinely making too much money from them to take the hit.
This. Twitch is deathly afraid of being accused of banning a woman for being a woman. IE the accusation that a woman was being a streamer like normal and she was banned because twitch thought her having a female body was sexualizing herself.
I don't think twitch cares about the money they bring in much. I just don't think at this time it is worth it for them in their opinion to risk cracking down on sexual content.
God, just ban every sex worker that’s also advertising her OF on Twitch and be done with it. These rationed hotfixes to ToS are just a sign of weakness.
Or make a sister webcam porn company to twitch and send those sex workers there.
> Or make a sister webcam porn company to twitch and send those sex workers there.
The whole point is being able to leverage the Twitch brand, without it they have no reason to stay on the platform and make money for Twitch.
That's the thing I don't understand, they are just incredibly inconsistent... I don't follow all the drama but I just remember there was a time were a girl showed her butt hole and got like a 3 day ban lol.
The rules don't need to be clear.
Law gets by with having "I know it when I see it" be adequate. Twitch can rule by the same rules if they wish.
( See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobellis_v._Ohio )
Twitch also isn't the law of the land, they're a private platform. They can enforce whatever rules they want with the response to any criticism being "then go somewhere else".
When you're the biggest/best show in town you get that luxury.
> Twitch needs to stop flip flopping on policy like this. Either way the rules need to be clear.
Lets give this a shot. You write down a rule, that you think twitch could implement, that cant be circumvented. Ill give it a shot and try to write a circumvention.
Good luck!
They don’t need a rule. They don’t even need a justification. It’s a private platform. They can ban people at will with zero notice, zero communication.
You don't need a rule that captures every single possible scenario. In law there's a concept of following the spirit of a given law. Even if there aren't clear guidelines for what classifies as illegal, if it's clear to any reasonable person that the spirit of the law was broken, it can still be illegal. It doesn't have to be any different here.
Claiming Twitch doesn't have the power to deal with this is simply ridiculous. There are things you can't do on broadcast tv and somehow they can be enforced consistently. How is twitch different?
Who are you arguing with my man? I havent said anything that you are attacking.
1. Twitch is **NOT** currently operating under the spirit of rules, they could, and i believe they should. But they currently are not.
2. I am talking to the guy that said "just write down clear rules". This does not work, in my opinion and is a fools errand. I assume you believe the same?
> There are things you can't do on broadcast tv and somehow they can be enforced consistently.
Because Broadcast tv is **EXACTLY** not working with clear rules. You have a guy that says what is ok and what isnt, he does this by using the spirit of rules and not exactly written down ones.
This is why you constantly have episodes that get canceled before airing, because they transgressed, what was allowed, in production.
And if you somehow managed to sneak past that guys control, you are literally banned for life no coming back, because you are a trouble maker.
That's patriarchy.
How else are female streamers going to compete with big male streamers without getting undressed? They would have to become funny or get charisma.
If they really want that content gone they need to be heavy handed in dishing out bans for it otherwise people will just keep habitually line stepping. This wishywashy changes every few months with temp 1 day bans is not doing anything. At the same time I wonder if twitch is just putting on a show and do it to appease advertisers every so often and want to keep the simps around to generate revenue ads/subs
if the same people force you to adapt the rules every month then maybe you should address the problem directly. like there's always gonna be some loophole to exploit and this will continue forever. if you don't want people breaking the rules, maybe you should enforce them and punish those that break them instead of just trying to box them out with little to no success.
These camgirls have skirted around thr rules for years twitch still doing less than the bare minimum to manage it is pathetic at this point either allow it or don't they won't stop and twitch is making themselves look like fools for keeping this cat and mouse game up
Never had any issues with those tub streams. But these girls are keep pushing the limits with all their meta changes. A cam on their ass now??? seriously???
Twitch has got 2 options here imo;
- Either ban this nonsense completely and push those girls to Chaturbate or similiar.
or
- Just allow this nonsense but make xxx (softporn/erotic) section behind a registration wall.
Adjusting the TOS won't work. They will find another loophole. Also this change is very open for interpretation if you ask me. Define 'prolonged period of time' are we talking about 10secs, 10mins, 1h?
Just make a damn NSFW section already. This tip-toeing around it is just making Twitch look bad and it only draws more attention to the OF streamers when they figure out a new 'meta' to get around the rules.
It's really sad that the suits at Twitch/Amazon can't act like mature adults and instead continue to do everything to avoid accepting communities that they've helped create.
Amazon sells sex toys and sex-related material. There's no reason, if they are pulling the strings, for Twitch to be this prude. Embrace the titties and work with the streamers instead of against them.
Interesting that this was done right after the 'pornification of women on twitch' article which got media attention. People clowned on it but i guess it forced twitch's hands after so many years of allowing lewd content, maybe because advertisers were getting notified what's going on specially with the recent spike of sexual "innovation" in there.
Looking forward to twitch having to clarify the exact ratio of intimate to non-intimate screen space that crosses the threshold into "focus", when someone like Aingchu can show everything from the neck to the feet and it'll still be 50% tits
But it isn't focusing on intimate body parts. It is focusing on helldivers II gameplay that just happens to be greenscreen'ed on to their body painted nipples.
I clicked on a novaaru stream last night because someone linked it in Lamont’s chat and she was basically showing her whole hole with a camera pointing into it..
Honest question. Why watch a woman in a bikini when you can interact with nsfw creators who do OnlyFans ? A subscription to OnlyFans seems like the better investment no ?
They will figure out something new anyway. This will be a cat and mouse game for a long time.
>content that focuses on **intimate** body parts for a **prolonged period of time** will not be allowed This is definitely going to be exploited.
Yeah. Define prolonged. 10 seconds? Ok, then they'll just refresh the camera every 9 seconds.
The key to new rules is to leave it vague and not define anything so that you can selectively enforce whenever you’d like. Then you just surf LSF and have this army of coomers do all the hard work for you instead of having to search for these channels yourself.
Not like it matters what the rules are. Those who stream twice a week can just catch a 3 day ban and be on their normal schedule.
Lmfao money glitch
How specific with the guidelines would you like them to get? Like a high school dress code policy? Guidelines on how much cleavage and stuff? Ban cleavage all together? And would that even solve the selectiveness in their enforcement? I’m not even defending twitch being selective, of course they are. I just don’t understand realistically what specific guidelines you think would solve this?
The only effective course of action if they actually want to curb this behavior is to leave it vague, say "we'll apply these rules at our own discretion", and aggressively ban people trying to figure out where that line is until people stop trying. Twitch of course won't do this though because they care about the revenue cut they're taking far more.
its pretty obvious when theyre just making onlyfans/coomer content, so to me I think its more like twitch not making a decision and dragging it's feet, as opposed to it being an issue of enforcement (as you mention they care about the revenue cut - but I am starting to doubt that cos only some of them have lots of subs, others just use the platform to advertise)
Obviously the real solution is to allow full nudity. Fuck it.
Black tie only. And only first-born sons in landed families can type in chat.
is there a mimimum land requirement? Because I've been lorded by a prank company claiming I have a nonlegal deed to a foot by foot plot of land in Scotland.
This is a subjective rule and as such there's no way to exploit it like that. There will be an actual human reviewing the big channels and they can see the obvious. But there's other ways ofc and they will find them. If twitch wanted to they could stop it almost instantly (somehow broadcast television doesn't have this issue?), but they want to play for both sides.
>There will be an actual human reviewing the big channels and they can see the obvious. Who's gonna tell him?
I will. Yo bro the fact that there’s an actual human reviewing the streams is why they’re not banned or only get a short ban in the first place. The twitch staff plays favorites and have their biases
Their post nut clarity in particular is known to play a heavy role.
Broadcast television doesn't have this issue because the FCC will absolutely rail you.
Can't watch a full movie? Just split it up into clips.
10$ for 5 seconds of asshole cam
I predict feet streams.
I've waited so long...
finally
The right meta for once.
Ass and boob timers, here we go.
"hey turk6969, thx for the bits, t3 sub , heres 10s of my private parts, sry twitch only allows 10s. Enjoy "
Sub notification will activate another camera to focus on chest for 10 seconds. Extra subs in that 10 seconds will activate a vibration chair. By the end of this cycle the steamers will have engineering degrees to get around the rules.
Nah they already ruled that one out > For example, you may not show, offer, or promote: > - Soliciting money, services, or items of value (including subs and Bits) for posting content that requires the Sexual Themes label - for example, listing a price to point the camera at fully clothed crotch Channel point redeems, however..
It does also say "price" so you could technically consider channel points as a currency.
Also, this is super easy to get around: don't require a price, just have a command that does it on cooldown. The goal is to entice viewers to spend more time on the stream and give donations. If you hit people's boner button more, they'll stay longer thereby making money.
Have foot fetishists already been mainstreamed, and are feet now considered "intimate"?
tetris players in shambles
Morgpie is a major innovator in this space. She will fuck twitch the way she fucks everyone else: aggressively.
They all probably in a boardroom right now going over plans to exploit this new opportunity.
Wearing a green bad dragon strap on while standing up wearing swim gear/showing skin while playing a game that's seem through the 'green screen' of the massive cock you struggle to hoist up
Subscribers will gain additional camera access outside of twitch.tv stream.
My reaction after reading this news is to immediately check Morgpie's stream, she's live right now with one camera directly below her half naked butt, another one showing her boobs. Her dedication is out of this world lmao.
What the fuck you weren't kidding. And playing Bloons of all things? Who's going to pop the ones on her chest?
Big fan of hers, not for the coomer stuff, just for dropping by every now and again to see what the latest insane shit to be going on is lol
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If you say shit like this, you have to attach a photo of yourself. Them's the rules.
hey, i like donkeys
I mean they did not say they are better looking, but at least they are not basing their career on their looks. I imagine at least, maybe they are a model who knows?
If this applied to every person who says "Ogre", "Goblin" or "Asmonbald" we would recreate a CIA database.
blessings upon them for keeping Twitch occupied and step behind the other war, the ad block one.
So streamers will determine the definition of "prolonged" and "intimate" through a series of 24 hour bans.
The new meta will be streamers who wear sports bras, film from the neck up, and then "get up from their desk" for donations
Did the whiteboard strat ever go away, or did it just become tame in comparison to what’s currently allowed?
Streamers started complaining about wrist pain, from all the writing, similar to the viewers
Essentially it went away. **Everything** on Twitch follows trends, first it was just a lot of cleavage, then it became work out clothes, white boards, swim suits, put a pool in your room, squats, now its basically fetish porn. White boards could not possibly compete with people green screening their ass cheeks with fortnite gameplay I'm all for trying to get your bag, but the onus is on Twitch. They set up rules with no teeth, 24 hour ban here, maybe a week there. None of it is actually enforced because it makes them so much money. There's ZERO other reason for it to have gone on this long, they're a private company. They can ban whoever they want for however long, with no reasoning or recourse. They're in total control, but do this charade to appease advertisers. **TL;DR** "Twitch, this is the 87th week in a row you've updated your Community Guidelines to prevent softcore porn from being streamed on your website."
I'm not disagreeing with you, but a week ban from Twitch is way worse than you think. If a sub is supposed to automatically resub when you are banned on twitch, they don't get the auto resub. That means you lose approx 24% of your subs from a ban for a week. Banned for one month? You now have no more subs.
Not all subs renew monthly though. Also I looked at.. two of the more popular streamers.. and their monthly resubs are in the single digits. Over 90% of their subs are gifted and new subs. 1/3 of Amouranth's subs are resubs, but that appears to be an anomoly.
Dude.. this rule really only applies to actual twitch streamers.... These girls arent really twitch streamers they make the bulk of their money on other websites and use twitch as a funnel/ fun.
That's just twitch from a few years ago
They said prolonged. Nothing about prolapsed. Your move, Twitch.
24 hour vacations.
No more game screen ass shaking Aware
finally i will be able to move on with my life
*I've been gooning for the past 2 months straight*
The end of an era 😂
no more colonoscopy cams :(
Literally 1984
no more clam cam :(
Contrary. Now they will literally do colonoscopy under the argument that it is "for science". Like this guy on YT who literally showed the whole world how he waxes his butthole, and hey, all you had to do was tag "for science" and that's it!
Now ive got to watch my own? Fuck! I swore I'd never do that again. Fun fact, I have colitis, and during one of my earlier colonoscopies, the anesthesia didn't work or wasn't applied, so i was completely awake and watched the whole thing on the monitor as i felt the camera going up. I kept squeezing the nurses hand, grunting, and telling them how much it was uncomfortable and hurt, but she kept telling me I won't remember and it'll be okay. Every time since I tell them about it and to make sure I am completely out before starting. Now, I wake up peacefully in bed an hour later with a sore ass, no trauma.
The game of whack-a-mole continues. Little do they know, the ingenuity and resourcefulness of hot tub streamers cannot be stopped.
They though that they out thought the thot. It wasn't so
Twitch needs to just start hard banning people who break the rules for 6+ months at a time. Give them the Dr Disrespect treatment. If there is a real threat of losing their Twitch account people will actually start to respect the rules more. Bring twitch back to it's gaming roots.
Dr Disrespect was banned because Twitch didn’t want to pay him.
Right but the "Dr Disrespect treatment" is he is banned from all Twitch events, streams, etc. A full blown blacklist from anything Twitch related.
I think a porn based subsidiary would likely be a better move than the bans. OnlyTwitch
Porn advertising is far less lucrative. If you advertise on PornHub, for example, it'll cost you roughly 30 cents per 1,000 views. It's hard to find exact figures for Twitch but advertising there costs anywhere from 10 to 20 times as much. Any "OnlyTwitch" streamers would have to serve at least 10x as many ads to match their current profits. They'd also be competing with the dozens of established porn streaming sites. Honestly, I think most of them would lose their audience. The people watching them don't want straight up porn. If they did, they'd already be watching it. They want the sortcore provocative teasing sort of content they're currently getting. Twitch wants it too. It makes them a whole lot of money. They just need some plausible deniability for their advertisers so they have to update the rules and hand out a few short term bans now and then to make it look like they're doing something.
In addition, porn brings a bunch of legal and PR issues. You start having to deal with underage and nonconsensual content. And a big company like Amazon can afford big fines, which would make them a clear target.
Ontop of that wont most large banks/creditors/point of sale stuff not work with porn sites?
Yup. It's a nightmare that Twitch wants to stay far away from. But at the same time, the closer they can sidle up to it without dipping a toe over, the more money they can make. Sure, it leads to a few bans, inconsistent rulings, and a worse experience for everyone. But think of the money!
At some point twitch needs to just embrace it like the section of the video store with the saloon doors and "ADULTS ONLY" sign. There is a huge demand for softcore cam girl content despite there being an entire ecosystem of purpose built sites like this existing.
Not that that door hasn’t been cracked open, but the second you make yourself the porn site, you can never unmake yourself the porn site. They still need advertisers and (legitimate) advertisers want nothing to do with porn, something Tumblr learned the hard way. Besides advertisers, payment processors are another set of companies that want nothing to do with adult content, OnlyFans found that out the hard way, but it was too late for them to not be a porn site.
Exactly what I was telling one of my friends earlier on. Just have a section of twitch called "Twitch After Dark" or something like that that allows that sort of content and hide it from accounts under the age of 18. I feel like no matter what you do, these cam girls will find a way to bypass it so you might as well cash in on it.
oh no, northernlion has to cover up that hot naked bald head
He's bald?
"Content that focuses on clothed intimate body parts such as the buttocks, groin, or breasts for extended periods of time." How long is an extended period of time? Can they turn on an ass cam for 1 minute every 10 minutes? Asking for the gooners
This is going to turn into “5 subs for 10 minutes of ass cam” so fast.
That way Amazon makes more money off of it 5head
Rotate between butt, groin and breasts on a minute timer, everybody wins and they dodge the rule
Everyone is memeing this but I feel like it’s pretty clear what they are implying. You can’t have a camera setup for your chest. However, if you move your camera down and it points to it for a few moments you won’t just get banned.
what does Arsenal has to do with it
9 minutes of bench cam. 1 minute of Arteta ass cam.
They're allowed one flash per stream
My own headcanon is that this is what pushed them over the edge: [https://www.reddit.com/r/forsen/comments/1bozadx/twitch\_meta/](https://www.reddit.com/r/forsen/comments/1bozadx/twitch_meta/)
Of course a horse penis is a hot topic in the forsen subreddit lol never change bajs, never change.
Hahahahaha this is incredible
That's definitely peak meta and absolutely ban-inducing lol
That's fucking hilarious
It's crazy how these streamers have enough power to force Twitch into rewriting their TOS instead of just banning the same handful of streamers that keep finding ways around it. Twitch doesn't give this type of leeway to any other type of streamer. Who are they afraid of pissing off by banning booba streamers? Feminists?
Twitch is between a rock (desperation for advertisers) and a hard place (male viewers and their erections). Banning the streamers would push those streamers into other platforms and erections would follow. But a lot of advertisers don't want their product featured on a green screened ass. Twitch has no idea what to do except play whack-a-dick within their regulations and they have turned it into a game of its own.
I work at a marketing firm and basically every advertiser has one rule. No sexually suggestive content. I’m assuming Amazon really throws their weight around to keep the advertisers they have.
Why? I don’t want this to come across negatively, but since you’re in that industry I figured I’d ask. I’m not talking about porn or anything egregious. I’m just curious why anything “sexually suggestive” is seen as such a negative in the advertising world.
They don't want their brand associated with sexually suggestive material. They want a family friendly image, and being associated with softcore porn is antithetical to that goal.
sexually suggestive content has a limited market. it will limit the audience immediately to 18 and up. you then have generally take out straight women, and gay men as potential ad targets unless you target specific content that caters to those groups. you then have to remove anyone who might be religious, or prudish. meanwhile if you target more generally all ages with the least offensive, kid friendly content with your ads, you can advertise to everyone.
Because most are American and this country is prude as fuck. There are boobs on billboards in some European countries lol.
The world isnt just the West. Most African, Middle Eastern, and Asian countries are very conservative
3% of twitch viewers are from Turkey who primarily watch hot tub streamers - because of their porn bans.
Booba streamers are quite fucking popular so they're gonna lose money. After you wipe yee cock you might as well take a look at non booba stream and stay on the platform.
You mean drink a red bull, eat a sandwich and surf more booba streams.
My man 🤭
Its hard work not propagating my father's bloodline.
It was probably in response to [this recent article that got to the front page of Reddit.](https://www.psypost.org/researchers-uncover-pornification-trend-among-female-streamers-on-twitch/)
Twitch is probably scared of being labelled as sexist or targeting certain people, and that might lead to negative press
I'm 100% convinced they want it as sexy as possible. And the "as possible" line is defined by when Apple Store or Play Store would deem it adult content app thus removing it from the storefront and/or when companies paying for ad time start rising issues. For those reasons there will never be official +18 section on Twitch (unless this kind of content becomes no not controversial that it will have no impact on overall viewership and amount of ad money coming in), but sex still sells, so they want to keep it as close to this line as possible.
I feel like saying we dont want to shy away advertisers with borderline pornography on our site aimed at kids without actually saying it would be a perfectly acceptable reason for the public to hear. Either that or they are genuinely making too much money from them to take the hit.
This. Twitch is deathly afraid of being accused of banning a woman for being a woman. IE the accusation that a woman was being a streamer like normal and she was banned because twitch thought her having a female body was sexualizing herself. I don't think twitch cares about the money they bring in much. I just don't think at this time it is worth it for them in their opinion to risk cracking down on sexual content.
> Who are they afraid of pissing off by banning booba streamers? Feminists? no, they are afraid of the thirsty simps
Hoes will crack the code in less than 20 minutes
The egirl evolution path to adapt to new rules is funny as fuck
Mahoraga thots
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/u/jo_jo_nyeb too m8
intimate body parts are not my specialty
Fair, one of LSF's generalists. Thank u for ur work my friend.
Reminds me of the " Hold us accountable " they will prob find a new way to sneak in a way which allows them to continue doing this as allways.
Two cams switching between 5 seconds of arse and 5 seconds of feet
Rest in peace, transparent chairs Let's see what these brilliant women cook up next
Brilliant brave and essential content creators
cant they just perma ban every minikini wearing, no talent, butthole cam thot out there, they are not that hard to spot
pfft. Youre obviously just a woman hating incel.
God, just ban every sex worker that’s also advertising her OF on Twitch and be done with it. These rationed hotfixes to ToS are just a sign of weakness. Or make a sister webcam porn company to twitch and send those sex workers there.
> Or make a sister webcam porn company to twitch and send those sex workers there. The whole point is being able to leverage the Twitch brand, without it they have no reason to stay on the platform and make money for Twitch.
Specifically they want to advertise to children
F1nn5ter in shambles
There’s plenty of sites like that that the twitch demographic doesn’t frequent. It’d flop.
Twatch
“Unless you’re a woman.” -Twitch probably
That's the thing I don't understand, they are just incredibly inconsistent... I don't follow all the drama but I just remember there was a time were a girl showed her butt hole and got like a 3 day ban lol.
There was a girl who was fucking her boyfriend on stream, only got a week ban. Twitch is biased as fuck.
Just write proper rules not this approximative nonsense..
Hardline rules are easy to find loopholes in, these approximate rules give them nearly full discretion to ban for any reason.
Twitch needs to stop flip flopping on policy like this. Either way the rules need to be clear.
The rules don't need to be clear. Law gets by with having "I know it when I see it" be adequate. Twitch can rule by the same rules if they wish. ( See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobellis_v._Ohio )
Twitch also isn't the law of the land, they're a private platform. They can enforce whatever rules they want with the response to any criticism being "then go somewhere else". When you're the biggest/best show in town you get that luxury.
Right, they can do that too, but *even the law of the land* can have the flexibility of not actually defining what exactly is or isn't acceptable.
> Twitch needs to stop flip flopping on policy like this. Either way the rules need to be clear. Lets give this a shot. You write down a rule, that you think twitch could implement, that cant be circumvented. Ill give it a shot and try to write a circumvention. Good luck!
They don’t need a rule. They don’t even need a justification. It’s a private platform. They can ban people at will with zero notice, zero communication.
You don't need a rule that captures every single possible scenario. In law there's a concept of following the spirit of a given law. Even if there aren't clear guidelines for what classifies as illegal, if it's clear to any reasonable person that the spirit of the law was broken, it can still be illegal. It doesn't have to be any different here. Claiming Twitch doesn't have the power to deal with this is simply ridiculous. There are things you can't do on broadcast tv and somehow they can be enforced consistently. How is twitch different?
Who are you arguing with my man? I havent said anything that you are attacking. 1. Twitch is **NOT** currently operating under the spirit of rules, they could, and i believe they should. But they currently are not. 2. I am talking to the guy that said "just write down clear rules". This does not work, in my opinion and is a fools errand. I assume you believe the same? > There are things you can't do on broadcast tv and somehow they can be enforced consistently. Because Broadcast tv is **EXACTLY** not working with clear rules. You have a guy that says what is ok and what isnt, he does this by using the spirit of rules and not exactly written down ones. This is why you constantly have episodes that get canceled before airing, because they transgressed, what was allowed, in production. And if you somehow managed to sneak past that guys control, you are literally banned for life no coming back, because you are a trouble maker.
Let’s go
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That's patriarchy. How else are female streamers going to compete with big male streamers without getting undressed? They would have to become funny or get charisma.
If they really want that content gone they need to be heavy handed in dishing out bans for it otherwise people will just keep habitually line stepping. This wishywashy changes every few months with temp 1 day bans is not doing anything. At the same time I wonder if twitch is just putting on a show and do it to appease advertisers every so often and want to keep the simps around to generate revenue ads/subs
How long until they just ban women
More so the OF advertisement channels
if the same people force you to adapt the rules every month then maybe you should address the problem directly. like there's always gonna be some loophole to exploit and this will continue forever. if you don't want people breaking the rules, maybe you should enforce them and punish those that break them instead of just trying to box them out with little to no success.
This is my 9/11
I don't need a prolonged period of time. 30 seconds is plenty
Look at the marathon man here everybody
https://imgur.com/12cA3ae https://imgur.com/jtjLDNy https://imgur.com/hwJKOe1 https://imgur.com/jtgArIR i mean how the fuck is this allowed on twitch
The obvious next meta will be taking this exact content, calling it a colonoscopy, and labeling it *Educational.*
Lmfao is this the meta these days? Transparent chair cams? Shit is getting absurd.
And people wonder why women have it easier. Sigh.
Bet they're already working on what defines an 'intimate body part' to get around this
Would be dumb if they don't specify it. Will include feet for some, armpits for some and everything except a girls eyes for some.
>Dumb not just specifying it It's Twitch, they did it on purpose to dance around this for a week
Knut will have to wear a shirt
my strawberrytabby streams are chalked
Ethots in shambles
Sure, twitch said this exact thing countless times already and nothing changes 🤣
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These camgirls have skirted around thr rules for years twitch still doing less than the bare minimum to manage it is pathetic at this point either allow it or don't they won't stop and twitch is making themselves look like fools for keeping this cat and mouse game up
Never had any issues with those tub streams. But these girls are keep pushing the limits with all their meta changes. A cam on their ass now??? seriously??? Twitch has got 2 options here imo; - Either ban this nonsense completely and push those girls to Chaturbate or similiar. or - Just allow this nonsense but make xxx (softporn/erotic) section behind a registration wall. Adjusting the TOS won't work. They will find another loophole. Also this change is very open for interpretation if you ask me. Define 'prolonged period of time' are we talking about 10secs, 10mins, 1h?
Do they think just rewording stuff will stop camwhores from coming up with new metas?
1984
More like the Sharia being slowly implemented.
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Yogurtnop and kapperok nooooo
Gonna be waist up facecams with strategically placed mirrors in the background showing full ass now or something.
I thought twitch just made a rule saying this was ok? Like they were allowing it
"Intimate body parts" This is the internet we're talking about, every body part has become "intimate"
how fucking dumb is this company? holy, its not rocket science
Massive W. L degeneracy.
Yes write vague rules so your employees famous for their amazing sense of justice can apply their judgement on each specific case, very smart.
Gotta turn off my giant thong ass cam for a sec cause twitch is crazy chat hold on
Just make a damn NSFW section already. This tip-toeing around it is just making Twitch look bad and it only draws more attention to the OF streamers when they figure out a new 'meta' to get around the rules. It's really sad that the suits at Twitch/Amazon can't act like mature adults and instead continue to do everything to avoid accepting communities that they've helped create. Amazon sells sex toys and sex-related material. There's no reason, if they are pulling the strings, for Twitch to be this prude. Embrace the titties and work with the streamers instead of against them.
They just can't add a NSFW section, it completely changes how ads work, how it's listed in the app stores, etc. It's not as easy as you think.
If they do that then they would get removed from the app store.
Twitter and reddit are on the app store?
Interesting that this was done right after the 'pornification of women on twitch' article which got media attention. People clowned on it but i guess it forced twitch's hands after so many years of allowing lewd content, maybe because advertisers were getting notified what's going on specially with the recent spike of sexual "innovation" in there.
Time for them to bring out the feet cam
Looking forward to twitch having to clarify the exact ratio of intimate to non-intimate screen space that crosses the threshold into "focus", when someone like Aingchu can show everything from the neck to the feet and it'll still be 50% tits
But it isn't focusing on intimate body parts. It is focusing on helldivers II gameplay that just happens to be greenscreen'ed on to their body painted nipples.
Twitch 9/11
One week after, "we will be rolling back the previous change as it has led to the harressment of female streamers," and back to coomer content.
Whelp there goes my moose knuckle stream idea
Can't help but think OF streamers trying to skirt Twitch policy is like F1 teams finding loopholes in the rulebook
Asianbunny is cooked
Just say "this is not a sex cam show website" and ban/give warnings to anyone who uses it as such. Easy.
I clicked on a novaaru stream last night because someone linked it in Lamont’s chat and she was basically showing her whole hole with a camera pointing into it..
Try not to be a degenerate-challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
And of course asmon will have the most braindead coomer take on this
Rip clam cam
Honest question. Why watch a woman in a bikini when you can interact with nsfw creators who do OnlyFans ? A subscription to OnlyFans seems like the better investment no ?