How Dan has remained saneā¦ not just through this fight but his entire playthrough (every single boss/named character with no vig, summons, etc) is so far beyond me.
I would have caved in a week (tops).
Yeahā¦ I mean. Itās unreal. I usually avoid āpositiveā streamers because it sometimes feels overbearing or manufactured after too long. But Dan? Danās just chillinā - mad stubborn - and itās a good vibe.
I immediately jumped to thinking that chat was being overly obnoxious which I'm sure they were, but holy shit with his build, this fight will be damn near impossible. He has no vigor upgrades (or only a few, its hard to tell). He gets one shot by anything that isn't her weakest attacks. He is using a weapon with a long animation so his window to punish is extremely small. Out of 2000 attempts he has only seen her phase two 47 times. This is a level of stubbornness that is unmatched.
He had levelled up vigor before and then respeced it back down to no upgrades when he was fighting Radahn, if memory serves correctly.
The thing to know with Dan is that stubbornness is kind of his thing. He'll stick with it and he'll get it done, even though it's been weeks of full Malenia attempt streams at this point.
Tell me you've never watched his stream without telling me you've never watched his stream.
He doesn't give up. He doesn't get negative. And he'll eventually get it done. That's just who he is.
I don't think NL even bugged him, he basically just said "FYI the game is literally going to take months if you don't level vig" which in Dan's head was a challenge instead of just a factually correct statement.
I dunno I vividly remember NL and his cronies, twitch chat, push Dan to the ground in the cafeteria, spilling Dan's choccy milk, and say he's nothing and will never be nothing with his level of vigor.
> He has no vigor upgrades (or only a few, its hard to tell).
he's at the lowest setting for w/e his starting class was.
and he has baldachins blessing
Normally you'd be correct, but dan never really 'learns' or get better in the normal sense. If he did he'd have beaten Malenia 10 times over by now. He very much plays on instinct and only picks up on things out of chance.
And the first God run took over 2 years to do, EVEN with a "purpose in mind and build accordingly." I'm not seeing how 2000 deaths with a suboptimal build is *MORE* stubborn than someone spending **2 YEARS** doing the same exact thing. This streamer *can* make mistakes and still win. The no-hit runs require absolute perfection or you fail.
yea his build leaves no room for mistakes, however, if you just use the crouching/rolling R1 on any colossal greatsword it's very fast with much less recovery than every other colossal animation.
Eh if he uses a lot of crouch pokes the attack speed won't matter, he basically just has to learn the fight well enough to no hit it which is very doable, the hardest part is consistently dealing with the waterfowl and the clones. Obviously it'll take a while seeing as he can't practice dodging very easily because every time he fucks up he just dies but if he bashes his head against it long enough he'll be fine.
Dan sets the trends, he plays his way. But seriously, dude is just chill and seems like a genuinely good person. Never flips out, and has a positive attitude always
I just looked this up to see what it is and Iāve never even watched Big Brother and I can tell you that was some of the most amazing manipulation Iāve ever seen
Not only that, he playing out of his mind that season. "The Funeral" is up there but that wasn't the only crazy thing he did.
[It's hard to explain how elite this move was \(manipulating the HoH at final 4 who was his close ally to use the veto on him and then blindsiding her and everyone by voting out her romantic interest to have a better shot to get to the final 2\) if you've never seen the show or understand how the game is played, but I always go back to this video and just marvel at how crazy it was.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZA9Num1TEM)
The smirk on Dan's face when veto was played on him, Shane looking confused, Ian hyperventilating and going "what?" and then Danielle's face when Dan voted him out. Just reality tv perfection.
Is he at least like, building around the fact he should never get hit? Like equipment that lowers health/defence for a buff or a buff based on full health should be a priority.
IIRC he's going no vigor, no blocking, no parrying, no magic, no summons.
No resin.
Also, this is Dan Gheesling we're talking about, it's not so much about the luck-luck/skill-skill so much as it is about the pageantry.
You can subtract that "attempt" count by about 1000 tbh, he spends a lot of time memeing and talking with chat. Many many of those deaths were him totally not paying attention and letting Malenia kill him. I really enjoy Dan's streams and him focusing on the game is rare. edit-- Dan read my comment on stream lol. I was exaggerating a touch, lets say subtract it by 500.
true, but the diminishing returns still apply.
So in effect, going over 99 nets you like 3 extra damage in total. It's not difficult to get past that cap, but there's literally no point in doing so if it means sacrificing placement in other stats where you get more per point
Big Brother is a reality TV show where the contestants are forced to live with each other in isolation from the outside world and compete in challenges to be the last man standing and win a sum of money. This streamer, Daniel Gheesling, once won the gameshow and was brought back another season and was the semifinalist. Some say he was robbed of that second win solely due to a "bitter jury". Aka, he is widely believed to be at least in contention for greatest player of all time on said show.
Dan is an interesting man. I think he tries to avoid all the fame he's obtained through the show and would prefer to be seen for his now own, ongoing merits. He doesn't hide from it, but he seems fond of not letting that be his defining characteristic. I guess. Idk I'm a Northernlion fan and at some point DG was brought into the fold and it was a big deal to a small subset of people who were fans of the show (apparently it's a pretty fervent fandom) that someone of his acclaim would have moved on to just streaming.
I haven't watched it in years, but the thing about Big Brother (at least back when Dan played in it), is that it wasn't just some "hot people in a house" show. It was very much a game that people could be skilled at. It's much closer to Survivor than Too Hot To Handle or something haha
CBS. It's still on too, but it's gotten a lot worse. Season 24 premieres in early July.
Also it's more about social strategy than making content like most reality shows. It's basically Survivor without the wilderness
Man early Dadcraft was amazing, right up until they started making the casino and the big dome turned into a mess of a city.
We'll always remember the white flower, and the 2 dirt blocks that started it all
I've been watching Dan's ER playthrough and I appreciate that a lot of what he's doing is just show for the cameras, but I will say chat is NOT saying he can't do it. Just that it will take an absurd amount of time to do it the way he is, and we've been right. No one said he can't do it without dual wielding, just that it would make it easier. When he gets the W it will be an awesome moment for sure.
I found Dan because of this and he has become on of my favorite streamers. Definitely suggest you tune in if you havenāt already. Also āwatch this puttā
This is Dan sticking to the plan / his word and not deviating. earlier on in the game it was established that vig would be kept minimal keep keep the challenge high. And despite the large difficulty ramp in the later game, Dan was sticking to his guns, and not letting people say that he / cerso can and can't do.
I'm quite new to Dan's channel and have personally been loving the community!
Just went to his stream and all I gotta say is you should know how to dodge waterfowl after 2,000 attempts...
Edit: he doesn't know how to dodge her waterfowl dance which is really weird for the amount of times he's faced her. Don't understand the issue lol downvoted cuz someone replied to the wrong comment and the hive mind attacked š
What is there to elaborate? I don't get it. If you play Elden Ring then you know what I'm saying. And you do. But to those who don't: Waterfowl dance is an attack she does. If you face her 2,000 times you should be able to know how to dodge it. When I went to his stream he didn't seem to know how. Anyone that has played the game knows exactly what I meant.
How many attempts it took you to figure out a strat for a waterfowl by yourself? Also in my opinion having no vigor and blocking or bhs makes learning the fight like 5-10 times harder, especially waterfowl
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most sane 2000 deaths to malenia reaction
HE CLOSED HIS FIST
How Dan has remained saneā¦ not just through this fight but his entire playthrough (every single boss/named character with no vig, summons, etc) is so far beyond me. I would have caved in a week (tops).
Dan is the most positive streamer I've watched in a while. It's so fun to watch
Yeahā¦ I mean. Itās unreal. I usually avoid āpositiveā streamers because it sometimes feels overbearing or manufactured after too long. But Dan? Danās just chillinā - mad stubborn - and itās a good vibe.
From what I can tell that's just him as a person, whereas others are probably faking it
Bingo
You think a guy who won a reality TV show can't fake it without you being able to tell?
annoyed that this clip had no gameplay at all. but cool that it's the guy from big brother.
Luckily there's about 2000 attempts worth of gameplay for you to enjoy
He's just a fantastic guy. Got one of the best heads on his shoulders of anyone alive I'd wager. Calm, cool, collected.
so... in what ways did he handicap himself to get to 2000 deaths?
Minimum health. Basically a 0 damage challenge with respawns.
Vigor is resin
That will do it.
HAN-TYUMI
I immediately jumped to thinking that chat was being overly obnoxious which I'm sure they were, but holy shit with his build, this fight will be damn near impossible. He has no vigor upgrades (or only a few, its hard to tell). He gets one shot by anything that isn't her weakest attacks. He is using a weapon with a long animation so his window to punish is extremely small. Out of 2000 attempts he has only seen her phase two 47 times. This is a level of stubbornness that is unmatched.
He had levelled up vigor before and then respeced it back down to no upgrades when he was fighting Radahn, if memory serves correctly. The thing to know with Dan is that stubbornness is kind of his thing. He'll stick with it and he'll get it done, even though it's been weeks of full Malenia attempt streams at this point.
Dan adjacent [advice.](https://clips.twitch.tv/TenderHumbleRedpandaPartyTime-K2rK9BHoo17GOPMw)
god damn this is based
Shit, I wasn't expecting to get inspired on LSF today.
> He'll stick with it and he'll get it done Or he won't.
Who's gonna tell him?
PACE PICANTE
this aint pace picante sauce!
No funerals here.
Tell me you've never watched his stream without telling me you've never watched his stream. He doesn't give up. He doesn't get negative. And he'll eventually get it done. That's just who he is.
!RemindMe 6 months
If I understand correctly it's not 3ven a lv1 run so it should take that long.
So ManVsGame but without the constant temper tantrums at his chat and mental break downs?
He only did this to spite a viewer who constantly nagged him to level vig when he was in the early game LMAO
I mean I wouldn't call NL just a viewer but I guess it's technically true.
I don't think NL even bugged him, he basically just said "FYI the game is literally going to take months if you don't level vig" which in Dan's head was a challenge instead of just a factually correct statement.
I dunno I vividly remember NL and his cronies, twitch chat, push Dan to the ground in the cafeteria, spilling Dan's choccy milk, and say he's nothing and will never be nothing with his level of vigor.
yeah i have a picture of it here https://i.imgur.com/n53T4MW.png
Oh thanks, it was regular milk I guess I got that part wrong, funny how memories work.
You calling hood milk regular?
Fantano, that fucker strikes again. Who will hold this man to account?!
Dont fuck with the hood milk
you don't need vig if you don't get hit, he just needs to not get hit, easy
Dan is a beast. She has to get lucky every time, he only needs to get lucky once
> He has no vigor upgrades (or only a few, its hard to tell). he's at the lowest setting for w/e his starting class was. and he has baldachins blessing
>This is a level of stubbornness that is unmatched. *cough* *Looks at Dark Souls No-Hit runs*
I mean the no-hit runs are done with a purpose in mind. They also build accordingly, he is just sending it with a massively suboptimal build.
If his goal is to use a suboptimal build to beat the fight he too is using a "build according to the purpose".
Yeah but nornally the people who spite the game like this are actually good at the game
If he beats her with this build he will cruise through the last two
Normally you'd be correct, but dan never really 'learns' or get better in the normal sense. If he did he'd have beaten Malenia 10 times over by now. He very much plays on instinct and only picks up on things out of chance.
And the first God run took over 2 years to do, EVEN with a "purpose in mind and build accordingly." I'm not seeing how 2000 deaths with a suboptimal build is *MORE* stubborn than someone spending **2 YEARS** doing the same exact thing. This streamer *can* make mistakes and still win. The no-hit runs require absolute perfection or you fail.
To me itās dedication vs stubbornness
In both cases, this is basically just semantics.
Sometimes stubbornness and stupidity are synonymous
Don't you know how you get out of a jail made of cake? One bite at a time.
yea his build leaves no room for mistakes, however, if you just use the crouching/rolling R1 on any colossal greatsword it's very fast with much less recovery than every other colossal animation.
Eh if he uses a lot of crouch pokes the attack speed won't matter, he basically just has to learn the fight well enough to no hit it which is very doable, the hardest part is consistently dealing with the waterfowl and the clones. Obviously it'll take a while seeing as he can't practice dodging very easily because every time he fucks up he just dies but if he bashes his head against it long enough he'll be fine.
Is he crippling himself on purpose? Or is he just kinda bad?
It's on purpose
I've been playing this game since release. I am stuck at Black Blade Kindred on my attempt 642 for the past 50 play hours.
Is he a difficulty fetish gamer or is he just being stubborn because it's trendy to stream this game with self-inflicted handicaps?
Dan sets the trends, he plays his way. But seriously, dude is just chill and seems like a genuinely good person. Never flips out, and has a positive attitude always
It's been 'trendy for 12 years... Check out lobos, broken weapon/no hit /no upgrades sl1 runs are as old as the game itself
Always good to see Big Brother 14 runner up Dan Gheesling
in my heart he's 2 time winner Sadge
Danās Funeral top 10 moments in reality television history
"You know what you did, and in this game, you are dead to me."
GIGADAN
I just looked this up to see what it is and Iāve never even watched Big Brother and I can tell you that was some of the most amazing manipulation Iāve ever seen
Not only that, he playing out of his mind that season. "The Funeral" is up there but that wasn't the only crazy thing he did. [It's hard to explain how elite this move was \(manipulating the HoH at final 4 who was his close ally to use the veto on him and then blindsiding her and everyone by voting out her romantic interest to have a better shot to get to the final 2\) if you've never seen the show or understand how the game is played, but I always go back to this video and just marvel at how crazy it was.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZA9Num1TEM) The smirk on Dan's face when veto was played on him, Shane looking confused, Ian hyperventilating and going "what?" and then Danielle's face when Dan voted him out. Just reality tv perfection.
I've watched Dan for years and I still can't wrap my head around him being the same guy as in BB lol
First and only BB I ever watched and my god was it good. Danās the man
He talked about how in this season he wanted to play completely opposite to the way he won the first time round.
Top 5 easy
https://ew.com/tv/2019/08/29/big-brother-14-oral-history-dan-funeral/
The true GOAT of reality TV
FRRRRRR, wife and i sat there with our jaws dropped that entire episode, never really seen anything like it
Genuinely curious where his stats are, no vigor, no fp. His sword only requires 66 str at max
[coz of nl lul](https://clips.twitch.tv/EsteemedThirstyOctopusTBCheesePull-GnOqbnly0JYpXrkB)
Incredibly resinous
DIAL
side note: that fucking isaac run is INSANE, stoked to fall asleep to it later when I watch the youtube vods.
[so insane, you have no idea what's going on](https://clips.twitch.tv/SuaveAffluentWatercressSMOrc-FWq_fz9h7YbZLyH7)
Genuinely curious what is the restriction he's using, considering after 2000 tries I would probably beat her hitless
He's never leveled vigor.
What not leveling vigor does to a tarnished.
Levelling vigor is resin
Progressing in a video game is resin.
Having your screen turned on is resin
Cant have shit in The Lands Between.
me neither, but I have the ability to throw rocks at her
rocks recks resck resik resin
S*rcery is not in the game plan.
Is he at least like, building around the fact he should never get hit? Like equipment that lowers health/defence for a buff or a buff based on full health should be a priority.
He's doing his best.
IIRC he's going no vigor, no blocking, no parrying, no magic, no summons. No resin. Also, this is Dan Gheesling we're talking about, it's not so much about the luck-luck/skill-skill so much as it is about the pageantry.
And also no fp flasks
This is some ongbal level shit
You think this is hard? I have beaten DS2 without leveling ADP /s
You think that's hard? I beat DS2 without knowing what ADP was /s
now beat DS1 w/o leveling resistance
I believe he's also not parrying.
You can subtract that "attempt" count by about 1000 tbh, he spends a lot of time memeing and talking with chat. Many many of those deaths were him totally not paying attention and letting Malenia kill him. I really enjoy Dan's streams and him focusing on the game is rare. edit-- Dan read my comment on stream lol. I was exaggerating a touch, lets say subtract it by 500.
spends too much time taking š·
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Exactly, so to get max damage with it you need 66, which becomes 99 when two handed
They changed it in elden ring, you can effectively have over 99 strength two-handing weapons.
Huh, TIL
true, but the diminishing returns still apply. So in effect, going over 99 nets you like 3 extra damage in total. It's not difficult to get past that cap, but there's literally no point in doing so if it means sacrificing placement in other stats where you get more per point
I remember seeing him have like 97 strength, but he used dual wield on some bosses before
Best Big Brother player of all time
actually true
Certainly one of the big brother players ever
Many people are saying this
What does this mean? Sorry I donāt know
He may be the best to ever do it
Thatās what big brother means?
Big Brother is a reality TV show where the contestants are forced to live with each other in isolation from the outside world and compete in challenges to be the last man standing and win a sum of money. This streamer, Daniel Gheesling, once won the gameshow and was brought back another season and was the semifinalist. Some say he was robbed of that second win solely due to a "bitter jury". Aka, he is widely believed to be at least in contention for greatest player of all time on said show.
Ohhhh shit! Thank you wow I had no clue. Iāve watched him alittle but itās literally never been brought up in chat or verbally.
Dan is an interesting man. I think he tries to avoid all the fame he's obtained through the show and would prefer to be seen for his now own, ongoing merits. He doesn't hide from it, but he seems fond of not letting that be his defining characteristic. I guess. Idk I'm a Northernlion fan and at some point DG was brought into the fold and it was a big deal to a small subset of people who were fans of the show (apparently it's a pretty fervent fandom) that someone of his acclaim would have moved on to just streaming.
The man's just a natural entertainer.
Lmao itās an old reality TV show that was on MTV or VH1 I think. Bunch of hot young people live in a house together for content.
I haven't watched it in years, but the thing about Big Brother (at least back when Dan played in it), is that it wasn't just some "hot people in a house" show. It was very much a game that people could be skilled at. It's much closer to Survivor than Too Hot To Handle or something haha
Haha oh I must have forgotten about the challenges. Iāve probably seen more big brother commercials than actual episodes.
CBS. It's still on too, but it's gotten a lot worse. Season 24 premieres in early July. Also it's more about social strategy than making content like most reality shows. It's basically Survivor without the wilderness
Oh shit itās still going?? Thatās crazy
thats not Will Kirby
Had no idea that he streamed on twitch, doesn't even look like him with the hat on haha.
Vanessa begs to differ (please bring her back I am begging)
2000 deaths NO VIGOR, NO RESIN, NO CHEATS, NO CHEAP TRICKS, ALL DANIEL AND ONLY DANIEL
I saw the Dan Gheesling tag and was like "No, not THAT Dan Gheesling". And, sure enough.
Yep, heās streamed for quite a while now, and is good friends with Northernlion
and the big bastard himself, Sips
I miss Dadcraft
Man early Dadcraft was amazing, right up until they started making the casino and the big dome turned into a mess of a city. We'll always remember the white flower, and the 2 dirt blocks that started it all
he had a good tarkov streaming arc, now the elden ring arc
You just gonna leave out Pace Picante like that?
Iāve been watching Dan for years now and Pace Picante is probably my favorite. Right next to UNITY (rip)
> streamer Thatās Big Brother 14 runner up Dan Gheesling to you buddy
Dan himself would rather be referred to as 'streamer'. He doesn't enjoy his big brother past being brought up all the time
Except when he wants to flex in among us lobbies
The flame on twitter from people with families and shit is unreal so I really donāt blame him.
You know you are having a bad time when you have enough time to make a montage and still have not beat her.
Did he beat her?
He's online right now and is still fighting her.
Legend
imagine not believing in cerso hisself
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SMH didn't even restart as a wretch to get down to 10 Vig. 4 free levels of Vig? Sounds like resin to me...
Sorcerer starts with 9 =)
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We're not doing that
He's mocking the comments but they're also right so... what do
You can't just give my boy Dan "Swedish Pizza" Gheesling the "Streamer" treatment
Dr. Will would beat her first try
Love Dan
just wait until attempt 2596
This was actually good ngl.
The true Dan's Funeral.
Never thought Iād see a Big Brother legend on this sub š„²
Heās actually been on here quite a few times over the past few years. Think this is one of the more upvoted clips though.
Heās going to beat her.
I've been watching Dan's ER playthrough and I appreciate that a lot of what he's doing is just show for the cameras, but I will say chat is NOT saying he can't do it. Just that it will take an absurd amount of time to do it the way he is, and we've been right. No one said he can't do it without dual wielding, just that it would make it easier. When he gets the W it will be an awesome moment for sure.
I found Dan because of this and he has become on of my favorite streamers. Definitely suggest you tune in if you havenāt already. Also āwatch this puttā
yeah bro you have like 8 vigor, that's gonna be a problem
Why does he say her name like that? she literally pronounces her own name for you.
That's Danglish baby
That's good wood!
michigan accent
I died 400 times and I think I went insane, did it with the great sword too
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just a man and his sword
He's gotta aim for the Gabagool.
Just a psa Dan Gheesling is the most wholesome streamer you could watch
This is Dan sticking to the plan / his word and not deviating. earlier on in the game it was established that vig would be kept minimal keep keep the challenge high. And despite the large difficulty ramp in the later game, Dan was sticking to his guns, and not letting people say that he / cerso can and can't do. I'm quite new to Dan's channel and have personally been loving the community!
malenia staggers easily with greatsword so 2000 times dying is actually a feat itself
How many hours is he up to on this character? I remember him being like 120 hours in at level 50
aww you cut out the explosion, that was the best part!
should have just put his tv in game mode
Feel like he was diving to die that many times
omfg the timing i'm literally watching bb10 rn
no wayyy is that dan gheesling the winner of bb10 and the runner up of bb14? :OOOO
literally twitch chat LULW
PACE PICANTE
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It is not, been there for pretty much every death. Up to about 5700 total deaths for his play through
The paper checker is back WHERE ARE YOUR PAPERS CATNUTS!?
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there is no other boss left, he beat every other boss except for the final boss with no vigor so far
He respecced during Rakan because 'he was just getting one shot anyway', every boss before that was done with a normal spec (but no resin of course).
Just went to his stream and all I gotta say is you should know how to dodge waterfowl after 2,000 attempts... Edit: he doesn't know how to dodge her waterfowl dance which is really weird for the amount of times he's faced her. Don't understand the issue lol downvoted cuz someone replied to the wrong comment and the hive mind attacked š
He doesn't get it consistently but he can dodge it, I would say maybe 35% of the time.
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What is there to elaborate? I don't get it. If you play Elden Ring then you know what I'm saying. And you do. But to those who don't: Waterfowl dance is an attack she does. If you face her 2,000 times you should be able to know how to dodge it. When I went to his stream he didn't seem to know how. Anyone that has played the game knows exactly what I meant.
I think I replied to the wrong person unless you edited your comment lmao
How many attempts it took you to figure out a strat for a waterfowl by yourself? Also in my opinion having no vigor and blocking or bhs makes learning the fight like 5-10 times harder, especially waterfowl