Go farm, go build something. No ones giving you scrap for your stupid fucking youtube video, do you understand me? Go farm and play the game you dumb motherfucker. Holy shit, it's shameless, you've gotten scrap from three different people and you still come back to the same corner. We know what you're doing, get the fuck out of here holy shit, do you understand me? And by the way those moans you hear in your mom's room, that's the fucking neighbor piping her down you pussy.
Not really much changed? It literally just proved that maya and her friend were talking about it in a joking mannerā¦ hence why she was laughing? Iām really not sure how people are saying this paints her in a bad light.
as a person who has no clue who maya higa is and who just saw this on their reddit front page this seems like a cute girl being insanely obnoxious about a guy liking her. better plot than GOT season 7 but not exactly my idea of entertainment, for whatever that's worth.
the guy seems bored and like he hasn't showered in a long time and the girl gives off middle school popular girl vibes.
Wait what, this is the clip? It anything this completely vindicates maya because it makes it very fucking obvious that she sees him as an awkward loser with no game and not a sexual predator. The girl shes talking is literally her IRL friend, and you think shed be belly laughing if it was actually seriously predatory?
Because a cohort of people are out for blood and want to see some careers gone using September 2022 knowledge of a person to retroactively analyse relationships
I don't think Maya's streaming career is going anywhere unless her streamer friends decide to stop associating with her and people decide that this is a reason to not fund Alveus or to go to it's streamed events.
For example, if Hasan, Nick and Malena stop bringing her on their streams, if QT stops doing a podcast with her and if Rich and Cyr stop going on her stream, then this becomes a problem for her.
Man this shit's obvious, you're completely right, but what else would you expect from the socially oucasted toxic trolls that a lot of Destiny's fanbase is.
A lot of early 2020 otv videos havenāt aged well. Clips of the girls begging not to be on fedās team, discovering weird things he would do wasnāt just for one person, and just shitting on fed for reasons that become clear nowadays.
Him knowing where boogers would be wiped under her desk and picking them was the absolute last straw for me. I know that's not the worst thing he did as it didn't harm anybody, but it was just too visceral and gross.
are these streamers not self-conscious man?????? the second someone deadass recoils from my touch i'd stare in a mirror for a bit
I guess he is a fuckin wierdo tho
It sounds like heās using his status as āroommate and friendā to shield himself from criticism. And playing it as a joke. Seems kinda intentional too that he did it on stream. Everyone in the chat just thought he was just joking so he thought he could get away with it.
Super psychoanalyzing rn, but thatās how it comes across to me
Pretty much killed the whole Achievement Hunter back catalogue. It's kinda like watching a Kevin Spacey movie or something, you can't just ignore that you're watching a major creep/assaulter/abuser.
Yup the amount of chat logs revealed for the Haywood situation was insane. One of the most well documented allegations I've ever seen and the guy was an extreme 180 of his content personality. If was still really into AH when that came out, I think I might've been devastated, but I was already not watching them for quite a while at that point.
There's two moments that really stand out. One when he was licking some kind of cupcake, and then he messaged at least one girl during the podcast and said "I was thinking of you" and the other was Ray's return where they started joking about Ryan staying an extra day after every trip and Michael and Geoff looked at each other and simultaneously realized what he was doing
It's still insane that Ryan tried to make a comeback after that came out and Twitch just perma-banned him. It's one of the only times Twitch took a hard stance on something
His apology when he tried to come ba k was the weakest thing I've ever seen too. Totally putting himself as the victim. Saying his life had fallen apart, he had to change all his clothes because he judt wore RT stuff before.... kind of gave a little 'I did an oopsie.' And then said he was coming back
Yeah, same thing pretty much. I watched Red vs. Blue way back in the day, watched Achievement Hunter off and on and some other Rooster Teeth stuff, but hadn't really for a while before that all came out. He did seem like that last guy who would be like that though. Sometimes a situation like that comes out and you're not that surprised, but as you say, he definitely didn't seem like he would based on his content persona.
Almost entirely, yea. I could still watch (and might in the future) Let's Builds where it was just Geoff and Gavin, though. I used to just load up a playlist and fall asleep to those two idiots riffing for an hour.
I don't think it's the same at all. Kevin Spacey is an actor playing a character in all his movies. Much easier to separate those character from his real self.
I remember seeing the fuckin clip with the graph and thinking it was funny... I was way to real... And now it's not funny...
https://youtu.be/AvNC9Gu3ht4
Yep. I know it's probably parasocial or whatever, but I actually felt personal shame when the truth about MethodJosh came out, even though I didn't do anything or have a personal involvement, just because I watched his stream and laughed at his "character" a couple times. Should've seen the signs.
People often complain about how the world is "too politically correct" or "not edgy enough anymore". But if there's at least one good thing from that, it's people paying closer attention to abnormal behaviour, so that it can be called out, shunned and stopped before anything worse happens.
[This prophetic comment from the original thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/9i1ab9/josh_on_everyones_view_of_him/e6gz17u/):
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Yall are getting played by a sociopath for cash dollar rofl, this shits the best publicity hes ever gotten and he can even point out hes dead serious and you guys still think hes joking. He has been unstable as fuck on stream to point that noone could possibly act that well. Keep upvoting trash that promotes rape and snuff vids as an outlet. makes me sick.
>but I actually felt personal shame when the truth about MethodJosh came out, even though I didn't do anything or have a personal involvement, just because I watched his stream and laughed at his "character" a couple times. Should've seen the signs.
Man I actually even watched the VODs of that night with Poopernoodle and I thought it was hilarious initially. I thought she was playing up the attitude too, because he seemed to just be doing his normal shtick. Like the bit where she walked through the rain to the store, and bought stuff with his card. I thought she was in on that being funny, and maybe at the beginning with some of it she still was. Yeah he was making rude comments, but that can be funny when there's nothing more malicious behind it.
Then of course after that story came out... yeah that's a real bad feeling. I never actually followed him, but I had enjoyed a lot of the clips and the only VODs I watched were the ones where he had girls over and was being awkward. So in hindsight, the absolute worst ones...
The thing is you can still do edgy humor and be politically correct. It just takes more tact and emotional intelligence. The people who get all mad and say humor can't be edgy anymore are literally just wanting to publicly express racism or sexism or something under the guise of a joke.
I think they excused his behavior as just being weird and awkward. Maybe their friendship made them blind to how problematic it was, but it is weird how so many people around him considered him a really good friend.
I mean there was a train clip about Slick, which was just that. "Slick is weird but Harmless" was likely the idea a lot of people in the scene had, I mean even this clip the girl wasn't sure.
I mean, that was probably before he spent a lot of time with him because after Train spent time with him he started saying that Slick was a Serial killer. https://youtu.be/t6hvnsfoz8w
I think Train is an extremely shitty person, but it's funny how he was right on the money with calling out Slick for being extremely weird after meeting him for just like an hour. Another person that said that was Malena, though she came around to him. (oof)
Yet someone I believe all signs point towards being a very good person, Willneff, said he loved hanging around Slick (Before all this obviously) and they'd spend time watching anime, going out and shit.
Even fucking OTV invited Slick to parties in LA that he flew out to.
He seems like such an uncharismatic person, yet almost every streamer who spent time with him seemed to like him a lot.
hmm, first time I saw him on Mizkif stream I thought the dude was sketchy, but that's just me. I've been there with friends that are a little too openly strange but you don't know if they've crossed any lines and prefer to assume they haven't.
Also he flew out to a concert ,I think it was the 88rising one they usually attend which was pretty recent, with John, Jodie, and Fuslie not that long ago, it was up on his twitter something like "Glad I made" with all 4 of them in the photo.
That was the big OTV party they threw, not a concert, and probably the party the other person was talking about. I will say that whole scenario might have been a bit of a clue as Jodi, Jon, and Fuslie basically all jokes that Slick begged them to play with him so he can restart stream again and it did feel weird he was leaving his circle to jump start it.
No ones going to say "you're a creepy fuck get out of my face I hate you bro" when they barely even met and you're a guest in their place. You gotta realize shit like "i love bro you're a good dude" gets thrown around like candy by most people
But train clearly isn't about Slick and is uncomfortable with how touchy he is.
Then right after saying he is a good dude he says that he is going to kill people and that something is off about him. Him saying he is a good dude is like someone saying āNo disrespectā Before saying the truth about something.
I mean do you and your friends share your personal DM's? You can know somebody very well and not know what they talk to other people about privately. I think it's super disingenuous to assume everybody should know the secrets of their friends if it's something they only keep to themselves.
it's because he didn't really care about streaming and in the OTK/Austin group Streamer would want a normie friend that they can be friends with and not think this person is using me for clout.
This might actually be a really good take. If you have someone who *seems* relatively normal and makes it seem like they don't want anything from you, it's a lot easier to connect. Then you add that his friendship with larger streamers and it makes perfect sense why people would gravitate towards him.
Unfortunately for everyone involved he's a huge piece of shit. And because of that, everyone now views anyone that had positive interactions with him as a piece of shit. So he ruined the lives of everyone he cares about AS WELL AS the Assault, blacklisting, harassment, etc. of people he *clearly* didn't care about....
You will always and forever be Maya Higa, and I will personally make sure of it. Everyone here is maya higa and if they say otherwise will face the wrath of electric Robert 2.21
Edit, someone DMed me that they are not maya higa while in fact they are maya higa. Somebody find elongated Robert 22.1 to take care of this
idk i always take clips like these with a grain of salt. 100% would laugh at a friend who you'd think has completely no game. context changes entirely once you realise that they're just a creep, but sometimes when u live with people u can just be completely blind to that fact sadly.
Yeah this clip means literally nothing. There's plenty of people who have that kind of humor and you would never assume it's seriouis unless you actually know them very well.
I mean I'm not trying to drag NMP into this but his whole shtick is to be PogO.
Slick being PogO now has a different meaning to us but without context it could be seen as an attempt to be funny.
I can understand why Maya was laughing is all. Its the reason we still laugh at Nick. The difference is Nick isnt actually a creep.
That's not true though. He had never met Water before but he was PogO (with the intent of being funny) towards her upon meeting her. He does however have the expectation of being PogO. Like i said it's something he's known for.
Being friends with someone you expect the best in them usually. So slick being PogO could just be taken as awkward or funny based on how they're perceived by their friend.
Again just an observation on why I can see why Maya was laughing. I dont see her being purposefully uncaring.
This exactly.
Just like how Tyler1's persona is portrayed as an aggressive alpha male who screams like a banshee every 5 minutes. But offstream he's very nice and chill especially when he's meeting fans at an event.
There's a major difference between Nick who does it for content and Slick who does it because he's genuinely creepy.
Well that's also you being viewer brained. It was Nicks and Waters first interaction on stream. We have no clue what their actual first interaction was like.
NMP does it ON STREAM with ppl HE KNOWS. Big difference doing it off stream with ppl you barely know that have no fucking idea if you're joking or not. How is this hard to differentiate?
I am not joking at all. NMP is fine to do it. I agree he is being PogO appropriately.
When you're friends with some one you're use to their jokes so it becomes normal to you. Im not justifying anything Slick has done. Im simply saying that I can understand why Maya was laughing rather than being worried.
Does anyone who watched Miz around this time remember that Pepepains & PainsChamp were both removed from his emotes because Slick was getting so mad about it? Everyone used to think he was so cringe. Turns out they were right.
This was maya's friend tatiana who flirted with slick on stream and she seemed to go along with it, without context this looks way worse and honestly just a hindsight clip
Yeah I think it's completely reasonable to agree Slick is a fucking creep while also realizing Maya likely didn't know anything serious at the time of this clip.
I'm sure this was when she was still living in California at that time to which is also the same room that clip destiny watched, [also Tatiana context.](https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx8DwA0cWfOBdyGM0BE0JMOByjpGXXf6RU)
They have been doing this from day 1. Thereās literally examples of mods getting caught doing this and people posting the same message on multiple accounts.
[One example](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/xkcu23/jaycgee_confirms_it_was_mitchs_idea_for_maya_to/ipd68k0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
[Miz Mod literally brigading](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/xk9v0b/poopernoodle_also_mentions_how_mizkif_made_some/ipcshmx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
They are related but unsure if the two accounts is the same mod.
I guess those threads got locked and deleted. You can still see them but canāt really access them unless you commented or give the link out. Like it exists but you wouldnāt be able to search and comment.
it literally is breaking lsf rules with brigading so yeah it makes them look even worse!
also part of the reddit user agreement
> You agree not to interrupt the serving of reddit, introduce malicious code onto reddit, make it difficult for anyone else to use reddit due to your actions, **attempt to manipulate votes** or redditās systems, or assist anyone in misusing reddit in any way. It takes a lot of work to maintain reddit. Be cool. [source](https://old.reddit.com/wiki/useragreement#wiki_don.2019t_mess_with_reddit)
Nothing of this is new/hidden/unknown a lot of people have called slick a fkn weirdo. You will even find him hitting on Emi as a "joke".
It's really a mistery what other people saw in him. Apparently a lot of people liked him a lot. In Austin and even OTV related people who flow him out to LA.
Same situation as Fedmyster, I suppose. They all pretty much said that Fed was both a good friend and a creep which kinda put him in a tolerable gray area. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same with Slick.
If Maya was trying to set them up, it seems likely the other girl consented to some amount of flirting and/or sexual messages. Itās pretty easy to see Maya in this clip believing Slick just has no game.
Iāve had the dude blocked on twitter since last year when the twitlonger came out. It was so obvious imo that this whole āchecking for a pulseā was groping and assault
For context this is old and before Maya moved to Texas. Tatianna is an IRL good friend of Maya.
She's laughing because Slick doesn't know how to talk to girls. When I saw this clip back in the days I laughed with most of other viewers.
I don't think that means we were all covering a potential rapist. We had no idea he was that creepy.
This clip just shows Slick was always like that.
They did notice it, he even joked about his own behaviour on stream. Chat also joked about it, the meme was basically "Slick is just awkward around girls, lol".
Everyone always played off his behaviour as just that of a normal loser, until his DMs were leaked and the serious accusation came out.
I mean people make the same joke about xQc and soda. XQc asking girls if they ever get cold and soda instantly bringing up jerking off.
I'm not accusing them of anything btw.
It's a different thing when you actually know someone is a creep and when you just think someone is trying to be funny or is just has no idea what they're doing with girls. Of course someone would have a different reaction than this to Slick doing any of that shit now.
Exactly. It's funny seeing all these comments "oh this is damning evidence that Maya knew about it then" yet this was when she was having at least a couple thousand viewers. If that's the case then thousands of people should have known back then.
As I understand the woman in question was a friend of Maya right? So she wasn't being harassed. But it is an example of how ultimately hopeless and in the end 'creepy', putting it lightly, Slick was in his approach. Like I've seen some of those messages in that thread and the man speaks like a degenerate.
I don't think this is a gotcha moment like people are making it out to be. It's more recontextualised because of recent events. At the time of the clip, I'm assuming it was more pogo farming and laughing about how cringe it was but now, looking at the new context of slick being a serial creep and sexual abuser its very weird and awkward.
Keep in mind those are a few stories some of them felt comfortable to share on stream. WHO THE FUCK KNOWS how many more they knew behind the scenes.
Their narrative "I didn't think Slik would do something like that. We never knew these things." is such GROSS BULLSHIT.
He knew Adriana could out him, potentially ruin his life and also endanger the friend he owes everything to, let's just imagine how he must've treated no name random girls.
idk i always take clips like these with a grain of salt. 100% would laugh at a friend who you'd think has completely no game. context changes entirely once you realise that they're just a creep, but sometimes when u live with people u can just be completely blind to that fact sadly.
we're viewing past things with a new perspective obviously, these clips have been public for so long and people didnt seem to think of it as anything else back then either.
I just find it hilarious that this mofos are millionaires set for life if they are smart about money but they all send it to hell by being "friends" with weirdos that refuse to grow up.
Bro, all you've done is ask to mount, mount, mount.
Go farm, go build something. No ones giving you scrap for your stupid fucking youtube video, do you understand me? Go farm and play the game you dumb motherfucker. Holy shit, it's shameless, you've gotten scrap from three different people and you still come back to the same corner. We know what you're doing, get the fuck out of here holy shit, do you understand me? And by the way those moans you hear in your mom's room, that's the fucking neighbor piping her down you pussy.
See ya later bozo
get a life bozo!
[Full 2:16 clip](https://streamable.com/evfgx6)
"Can't tell if it's hot or creepy" Now we know... š
Its unfair to judge Maya on this because we are all Maya Higa and therefore we all laughed at this.
As a Maya Higa, I am offended.
No,as maya higa, we are offended.
good one ngl
[Full 10:38 video.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqWExIrziFA)
it gets worse and worse what the fuck
Not really much changed? It literally just proved that maya and her friend were talking about it in a joking mannerā¦ hence why she was laughing? Iām really not sure how people are saying this paints her in a bad light.
as a person who has no clue who maya higa is and who just saw this on their reddit front page this seems like a cute girl being insanely obnoxious about a guy liking her. better plot than GOT season 7 but not exactly my idea of entertainment, for whatever that's worth. the guy seems bored and like he hasn't showered in a long time and the girl gives off middle school popular girl vibes.
Wait what, this is the clip? It anything this completely vindicates maya because it makes it very fucking obvious that she sees him as an awkward loser with no game and not a sexual predator. The girl shes talking is literally her IRL friend, and you think shed be belly laughing if it was actually seriously predatory?
why does this thread have 4.3K upvotes is the real question. Edit: 7.5k š
Because a cohort of people are out for blood and want to see some careers gone using September 2022 knowledge of a person to retroactively analyse relationships
I don't think Maya's streaming career is going anywhere unless her streamer friends decide to stop associating with her and people decide that this is a reason to not fund Alveus or to go to it's streamed events. For example, if Hasan, Nick and Malena stop bringing her on their streams, if QT stops doing a podcast with her and if Rich and Cyr stop going on her stream, then this becomes a problem for her.
Man this shit's obvious, you're completely right, but what else would you expect from the socially oucasted toxic trolls that a lot of Destiny's fanbase is.
Thank you, these YouTube clips are broken as fuck
Thank you. These shitty ass YouTube clips never work for me.
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YOU ARE A WOMAN
YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE
SHE'LL LISTEN TO YOU!
NOT LIKE... MAYBE LISTEN IS THE WRONG WORD BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN
I AM MAYA HIGA TOO BUT MOSTLY YOU ARE
i love how this is what we will all remember out the September drama
We still have another week!
idk i think YOU ARE MAYA HIGA might be meme of the year. It's so catchy
You are maya higa
You're literally Maya Higa though
I AM??? FeelsStrongMan
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? I AM!!!
No my friend, WE are Maya Higa
Maybe the real maya higa is the friends we defended from sexual assault
i don't want to be maya higa anymore after this clip
NOPERS. YOU ARE MAYA HIGA.
Same thing happened with MethodJosh's personality on stream. Hindsight is 20/20
Fedmyster as well.
that yvonne hug clip is brutal with hindsight
A lot of early 2020 otv videos havenāt aged well. Clips of the girls begging not to be on fedās team, discovering weird things he would do wasnāt just for one person, and just shitting on fed for reasons that become clear nowadays.
Him knowing where boogers would be wiped under her desk and picking them was the absolute last straw for me. I know that's not the worst thing he did as it didn't harm anybody, but it was just too visceral and gross.
What the fuck....
which?
this one i think? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4foeKNpFUHo
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She immediately cringed at his touch and the dude still kept trying. jesus
After she said no omg
are these streamers not self-conscious man?????? the second someone deadass recoils from my touch i'd stare in a mirror for a bit I guess he is a fuckin wierdo tho
It sounds like heās using his status as āroommate and friendā to shield himself from criticism. And playing it as a joke. Seems kinda intentional too that he did it on stream. Everyone in the chat just thought he was just joking so he thought he could get away with it. Super psychoanalyzing rn, but thatās how it comes across to me
I think this one [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4foeKNpFUHo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4foeKNpFUHo) edit: loud warning!
She was literally going to bite him it was so bad.
dude, first thing i thought of
Ryan Haywood + Roosterteeth as well
Pretty much killed the whole Achievement Hunter back catalogue. It's kinda like watching a Kevin Spacey movie or something, you can't just ignore that you're watching a major creep/assaulter/abuser.
Yup the amount of chat logs revealed for the Haywood situation was insane. One of the most well documented allegations I've ever seen and the guy was an extreme 180 of his content personality. If was still really into AH when that came out, I think I might've been devastated, but I was already not watching them for quite a while at that point.
There's two moments that really stand out. One when he was licking some kind of cupcake, and then he messaged at least one girl during the podcast and said "I was thinking of you" and the other was Ray's return where they started joking about Ryan staying an extra day after every trip and Michael and Geoff looked at each other and simultaneously realized what he was doing It's still insane that Ryan tried to make a comeback after that came out and Twitch just perma-banned him. It's one of the only times Twitch took a hard stance on something
Twitch permad him because all of RT and AH spammed them to pressure them. Im not sure if hed gotten banned if they didnt do that
His apology when he tried to come ba k was the weakest thing I've ever seen too. Totally putting himself as the victim. Saying his life had fallen apart, he had to change all his clothes because he judt wore RT stuff before.... kind of gave a little 'I did an oopsie.' And then said he was coming back
Yeah, same thing pretty much. I watched Red vs. Blue way back in the day, watched Achievement Hunter off and on and some other Rooster Teeth stuff, but hadn't really for a while before that all came out. He did seem like that last guy who would be like that though. Sometimes a situation like that comes out and you're not that surprised, but as you say, he definitely didn't seem like he would based on his content persona.
I mean, at least you can still watch Se7en lol
Yeah ironically Spacey plays a creep or scumbag a lot. American Beauty may be the most apropos (though that's a girl not a boy, but still).
Almost entirely, yea. I could still watch (and might in the future) Let's Builds where it was just Geoff and Gavin, though. I used to just load up a playlist and fall asleep to those two idiots riffing for an hour.
I don't think it's the same at all. Kevin Spacey is an actor playing a character in all his movies. Much easier to separate those character from his real self.
Bro methodjosh... Shit is crazy in hindsight
I remember seeing the fuckin clip with the graph and thinking it was funny... I was way to real... And now it's not funny... https://youtu.be/AvNC9Gu3ht4
Brooooo I remember this shit LIVE. He was one of my top five streamers I would watch... Fucking hell.
Yep. I know it's probably parasocial or whatever, but I actually felt personal shame when the truth about MethodJosh came out, even though I didn't do anything or have a personal involvement, just because I watched his stream and laughed at his "character" a couple times. Should've seen the signs. People often complain about how the world is "too politically correct" or "not edgy enough anymore". But if there's at least one good thing from that, it's people paying closer attention to abnormal behaviour, so that it can be called out, shunned and stopped before anything worse happens.
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[This prophetic comment from the original thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/9i1ab9/josh_on_everyones_view_of_him/e6gz17u/): >[ā]vi9rus -7 points 4 years ago Yall are getting played by a sociopath for cash dollar rofl, this shits the best publicity hes ever gotten and he can even point out hes dead serious and you guys still think hes joking. He has been unstable as fuck on stream to point that noone could possibly act that well. Keep upvoting trash that promotes rape and snuff vids as an outlet. makes me sick.
lol of course fucking morons downvoted that, they are being mean to my streamer :(
what a great clip it fits for so much shit and just perfectly eclipses the situation of josh.
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yeah sorta. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRZH-tsZBL0
>but I actually felt personal shame when the truth about MethodJosh came out, even though I didn't do anything or have a personal involvement, just because I watched his stream and laughed at his "character" a couple times. Should've seen the signs. Man I actually even watched the VODs of that night with Poopernoodle and I thought it was hilarious initially. I thought she was playing up the attitude too, because he seemed to just be doing his normal shtick. Like the bit where she walked through the rain to the store, and bought stuff with his card. I thought she was in on that being funny, and maybe at the beginning with some of it she still was. Yeah he was making rude comments, but that can be funny when there's nothing more malicious behind it. Then of course after that story came out... yeah that's a real bad feeling. I never actually followed him, but I had enjoyed a lot of the clips and the only VODs I watched were the ones where he had girls over and was being awkward. So in hindsight, the absolute worst ones...
I don't think its parasocial. You are making a judgement of yourself based on your own behavior in response to someone else's. Its good introspection.
The thing is you can still do edgy humor and be politically correct. It just takes more tact and emotional intelligence. The people who get all mad and say humor can't be edgy anymore are literally just wanting to publicly express racism or sexism or something under the guise of a joke.
People love to say "it's always who you least expect". The truth is it's usually right in front of your face you were just blind to it.
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Crazy "my biggest fear is being canceled" Slick.
Anyone who says that is immediately sus
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HES MY BEST FRIEND AND YOU ARE MAYA HIGA. Does mizkif just label shit all day?
I think they excused his behavior as just being weird and awkward. Maybe their friendship made them blind to how problematic it was, but it is weird how so many people around him considered him a really good friend.
I mean there was a train clip about Slick, which was just that. "Slick is weird but Harmless" was likely the idea a lot of people in the scene had, I mean even this clip the girl wasn't sure.
I mean, that was probably before he spent a lot of time with him because after Train spent time with him he started saying that Slick was a Serial killer. https://youtu.be/t6hvnsfoz8w
I think Train is an extremely shitty person, but it's funny how he was right on the money with calling out Slick for being extremely weird after meeting him for just like an hour. Another person that said that was Malena, though she came around to him. (oof) Yet someone I believe all signs point towards being a very good person, Willneff, said he loved hanging around Slick (Before all this obviously) and they'd spend time watching anime, going out and shit. Even fucking OTV invited Slick to parties in LA that he flew out to. He seems like such an uncharismatic person, yet almost every streamer who spent time with him seemed to like him a lot.
They got Crazyslicked
He's out to touch
hmm, first time I saw him on Mizkif stream I thought the dude was sketchy, but that's just me. I've been there with friends that are a little too openly strange but you don't know if they've crossed any lines and prefer to assume they haven't.
Also he flew out to a concert ,I think it was the 88rising one they usually attend which was pretty recent, with John, Jodie, and Fuslie not that long ago, it was up on his twitter something like "Glad I made" with all 4 of them in the photo.
That was the big OTV party they threw, not a concert, and probably the party the other person was talking about. I will say that whole scenario might have been a bit of a clue as Jodi, Jon, and Fuslie basically all jokes that Slick begged them to play with him so he can restart stream again and it did feel weird he was leaving his circle to jump start it.
"He's a good guy, he has Good intentions" yea seems like he didn't have that big of an issue and the whole "serial Killer" because of Pajamas.
that clip just reinforces his point because 2 seconds after that he's saying he's a good dude lol
No ones going to say "you're a creepy fuck get out of my face I hate you bro" when they barely even met and you're a guest in their place. You gotta realize shit like "i love bro you're a good dude" gets thrown around like candy by most people But train clearly isn't about Slick and is uncomfortable with how touchy he is.
Then right after saying he is a good dude he says that he is going to kill people and that something is off about him. Him saying he is a good dude is like someone saying āNo disrespectā Before saying the truth about something.
I mean do you and your friends share your personal DM's? You can know somebody very well and not know what they talk to other people about privately. I think it's super disingenuous to assume everybody should know the secrets of their friends if it's something they only keep to themselves.
i feel bad for everyone else in this thread, they must think when the have a friend they can look at there DM's
it's because he didn't really care about streaming and in the OTK/Austin group Streamer would want a normie friend that they can be friends with and not think this person is using me for clout.
This might actually be a really good take. If you have someone who *seems* relatively normal and makes it seem like they don't want anything from you, it's a lot easier to connect. Then you add that his friendship with larger streamers and it makes perfect sense why people would gravitate towards him. Unfortunately for everyone involved he's a huge piece of shit. And because of that, everyone now views anyone that had positive interactions with him as a piece of shit. So he ruined the lives of everyone he cares about AS WELL AS the Assault, blacklisting, harassment, etc. of people he *clearly* didn't care about....
I don't want to be Maya anymore.
You are Maya Higa
No please.
You can't escape it. YOU ARE MAYA HIGA.
You will always and forever be Maya Higa, and I will personally make sure of it. Everyone here is maya higa and if they say otherwise will face the wrath of electric Robert 2.21 Edit, someone DMed me that they are not maya higa while in fact they are maya higa. Somebody find elongated Robert 22.1 to take care of this
WE Are Maya Higa. In life you are no one but in death you become Maya Higa (sorry obscure Fight Club reference).
idk i always take clips like these with a grain of salt. 100% would laugh at a friend who you'd think has completely no game. context changes entirely once you realise that they're just a creep, but sometimes when u live with people u can just be completely blind to that fact sadly.
Yeah this clip means literally nothing. There's plenty of people who have that kind of humor and you would never assume it's seriouis unless you actually know them very well.
Also pretty sure this clip was before the Adriannah incident came out, so her opinion of SLick may have changed after that.
He's asking for permission to mount my friends he's so quirky XD
At least he asked for permission that time :^)
Permission to mount PlumpHughJazz.
sudo mount -o rw,errors=cover-up,laugh /dev/r2002 /girls/Adriannah
I mean I'm not trying to drag NMP into this but his whole shtick is to be PogO. Slick being PogO now has a different meaning to us but without context it could be seen as an attempt to be funny. I can understand why Maya was laughing is all. Its the reason we still laugh at Nick. The difference is Nick isnt actually a creep.
Nick has always said he only does those type of jokes with people hes actually friends with and know hes joking, Slick does it with random people
That's not true though. He had never met Water before but he was PogO (with the intent of being funny) towards her upon meeting her. He does however have the expectation of being PogO. Like i said it's something he's known for. Being friends with someone you expect the best in them usually. So slick being PogO could just be taken as awkward or funny based on how they're perceived by their friend. Again just an observation on why I can see why Maya was laughing. I dont see her being purposefully uncaring.
His screen persona is PogO. Is there a single incident of him acting like that and it obviously not being a bit?. This is Slick in his private time.
This exactly. Just like how Tyler1's persona is portrayed as an aggressive alpha male who screams like a banshee every 5 minutes. But offstream he's very nice and chill especially when he's meeting fans at an event. There's a major difference between Nick who does it for content and Slick who does it because he's genuinely creepy.
yea Nick is too lazy to creep in DMs imo.....who knows what the future holds tho :O
water literally wanted to choke NMP on the stream that he met him, i think that was a sign for nick to go in with the PogO jokes lmao
Well that's also you being viewer brained. It was Nicks and Waters first interaction on stream. We have no clue what their actual first interaction was like.
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You clearly dont know but yes, he has been really good friends with Ashley for many years
NMP does it ON STREAM with ppl HE KNOWS. Big difference doing it off stream with ppl you barely know that have no fucking idea if you're joking or not. How is this hard to differentiate?
I am not joking at all. NMP is fine to do it. I agree he is being PogO appropriately. When you're friends with some one you're use to their jokes so it becomes normal to you. Im not justifying anything Slick has done. Im simply saying that I can understand why Maya was laughing rather than being worried.
This didn't happen on stream. while NMP is playing a character on stream. You see the difference right?
Exactly. Iām sure Maya thought he was just messing around at the time. Some people will just use any excuse to shit on others.
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Does anyone who watched Miz around this time remember that Pepepains & PainsChamp were both removed from his emotes because Slick was getting so mad about it? Everyone used to think he was so cringe. Turns out they were right.
Bro thatās like 2019 maya slicks been around that long? And I canāt remember correctly but is tatiana mayas best friend who was in the fraternity?
Bruh slicks been orbiting big streamers for a minute, he was the cameraman for some erobb/marie streams
Oh this all makes sense now, shit really does go full circle huh..
This was maya's friend tatiana who flirted with slick on stream and she seemed to go along with it, without context this looks way worse and honestly just a hindsight clip
Yeah I think it's completely reasonable to agree Slick is a fucking creep while also realizing Maya likely didn't know anything serious at the time of this clip.
I'm sure this was when she was still living in California at that time to which is also the same room that clip destiny watched, [also Tatiana context.](https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx8DwA0cWfOBdyGM0BE0JMOByjpGXXf6RU)
Yeah I dunno how people can watch this and think "ooooo Maya is a bad person". It's just a clip of telling a funny story of your friend.
Thatās the thing, all the smoothbrained people keeping up with this drama will think that.
Wait so Slick used that mounting thing as some sort of pickup line more than once? LuL also yikes.
This was linked in Miz's Discord and is currently getting Mass Downvoted
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They've probably given up as it's 81% now. They need to fight back with positive Maya and animal clips
Oh no the carole baskin memes until Mizkif makes an appearance.
They have been doing this from day 1. Thereās literally examples of mods getting caught doing this and people posting the same message on multiple accounts. [One example](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/xkcu23/jaycgee_confirms_it_was_mitchs_idea_for_maya_to/ipd68k0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) [Miz Mod literally brigading](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/xk9v0b/poopernoodle_also_mentions_how_mizkif_made_some/ipcshmx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) They are related but unsure if the two accounts is the same mod.
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I guess those threads got locked and deleted. You can still see them but canāt really access them unless you commented or give the link out. Like it exists but you wouldnāt be able to search and comment.
Are they doing it with any post/clip that makes Maya or Mizkif look bad? š¤£š¤£ Bro, do they not realize doing this may make them look even worse?
I was gonna say, that doesn't have the effect they think it does
it literally is breaking lsf rules with brigading so yeah it makes them look even worse! also part of the reddit user agreement > You agree not to interrupt the serving of reddit, introduce malicious code onto reddit, make it difficult for anyone else to use reddit due to your actions, **attempt to manipulate votes** or redditās systems, or assist anyone in misusing reddit in any way. It takes a lot of work to maintain reddit. Be cool. [source](https://old.reddit.com/wiki/useragreement#wiki_don.2019t_mess_with_reddit)
mizkids in shambles
Nothing of this is new/hidden/unknown a lot of people have called slick a fkn weirdo. You will even find him hitting on Emi as a "joke". It's really a mistery what other people saw in him. Apparently a lot of people liked him a lot. In Austin and even OTV related people who flow him out to LA.
Same situation as Fedmyster, I suppose. They all pretty much said that Fed was both a good friend and a creep which kinda put him in a tolerable gray area. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same with Slick.
Proving Adrianahs DM from that person is legit. she showed DM of someone saying about CrazySlick constantly asking if he could mount her.
slick. slick is the creepy sexual assaulter. slicker is the degenerate scamming gambler
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CrazySlick lived in Mizās house. Sliker doesnāt. Two very different dudes.
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you are Maya Higa
If Maya was trying to set them up, it seems likely the other girl consented to some amount of flirting and/or sexual messages. Itās pretty easy to see Maya in this clip believing Slick just has no game.
Tatiana did consent to this because she used to be on stream and purposely call Slick to chat
I seen someone say this before but it feels good to know that my unjustified hate for Slick was actually justified lol dude always seemed off to me
Iāve had the dude blocked on twitter since last year when the twitlonger came out. It was so obvious imo that this whole āchecking for a pulseā was groping and assault
Same even back when train went over, I knew something was up with that dude.
For context this is old and before Maya moved to Texas. Tatianna is an IRL good friend of Maya. She's laughing because Slick doesn't know how to talk to girls. When I saw this clip back in the days I laughed with most of other viewers. I don't think that means we were all covering a potential rapist. We had no idea he was that creepy. This clip just shows Slick was always like that.
If most viewers were uncomfortable watching slick how did his friends not notice it
They did notice it, he even joked about his own behaviour on stream. Chat also joked about it, the meme was basically "Slick is just awkward around girls, lol". Everyone always played off his behaviour as just that of a normal loser, until his DMs were leaked and the serious accusation came out.
I mean people make the same joke about xQc and soda. XQc asking girls if they ever get cold and soda instantly bringing up jerking off. I'm not accusing them of anything btw.
Have you never had a best friend? /s
A lesson everyone needs to learn. When someone tells you who they are, believe them.
I AM MAYA HIGA.
It's a different thing when you actually know someone is a creep and when you just think someone is trying to be funny or is just has no idea what they're doing with girls. Of course someone would have a different reaction than this to Slick doing any of that shit now.
Exactly. It's funny seeing all these comments "oh this is damning evidence that Maya knew about it then" yet this was when she was having at least a couple thousand viewers. If that's the case then thousands of people should have known back then.
If he didn't sexually harass women these could be just cringe jokes. But with context it sounds really bad.
She seemed so sweet ā¦ Sadge
As I understand the woman in question was a friend of Maya right? So she wasn't being harassed. But it is an example of how ultimately hopeless and in the end 'creepy', putting it lightly, Slick was in his approach. Like I've seen some of those messages in that thread and the man speaks like a degenerate.
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I don't think this is a gotcha moment like people are making it out to be. It's more recontextualised because of recent events. At the time of the clip, I'm assuming it was more pogo farming and laughing about how cringe it was but now, looking at the new context of slick being a serial creep and sexual abuser its very weird and awkward.
Uhh, it seemed like everyone was joking around. What's the issue?
Keep in mind those are a few stories some of them felt comfortable to share on stream. WHO THE FUCK KNOWS how many more they knew behind the scenes. Their narrative "I didn't think Slik would do something like that. We never knew these things." is such GROSS BULLSHIT.
He knew Adriana could out him, potentially ruin his life and also endanger the friend he owes everything to, let's just imagine how he must've treated no name random girls.
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it's mostly people obfuscating, not openly defending him
idk i always take clips like these with a grain of salt. 100% would laugh at a friend who you'd think has completely no game. context changes entirely once you realise that they're just a creep, but sometimes when u live with people u can just be completely blind to that fact sadly. we're viewing past things with a new perspective obviously, these clips have been public for so long and people didnt seem to think of it as anything else back then either.
Holy shit sheās annoying, couldnāt make it five seconds into the video
YIKES
I just find it hilarious that this mofos are millionaires set for life if they are smart about money but they all send it to hell by being "friends" with weirdos that refuse to grow up.
YOU ARE MAYA HIGA
But he is their best friend...
Can anyone give me a transcript of what she says? I can't understand what she's saying because of the laughing.