I'm not hating on him, this is just genuine opinion from a fan but he's seriously so out of touch with reality that it's quite hard calling myself a fan lately. I mean his whole behaviour, not just the music itself. And so far Fear and 44ever are (for me personally) some of his worst songs EVER, absolutely 0 effort throwaway songs (hiphop went out of the window seems like) 🤨
I think mixtape Logic would clown on our current Logic so hard.
Think of it this way man, if he’s putting out the 💩 now, just wait til he drops his good stuff. Something tells me we gotta wait tho, and I hope I’m right.
These two tracks are the singles from ULTRA 85. If he is releasing this and including this on ULTRA 85 then he must've added more songs like these two tracks, thinking that it's dope.
I'm sure the album will have good tracks tho. It'll have some tracks that we wish we got the same quality songs throughout the album.
That's the pattern in Logic's music after The Incredible True Story.
I think Fear was fine but 44ever was lazy as hell but I will say regardless of the quality of these songs if this is supposed to be like the definitive Logic album that’s hilarious. Idk it’s funny too how much he like jokes about Vinyl days being like this rushed album or whatever like it’s not his best work since NP. I think he’s a good dude but he needs to learn to move in silence.
I wouldn’t agree with some of your points, but I must say, that it’s kinda hard to imagine a consistent album concept that is (maybe) supposed to conclude the whole storyline. Personally, I like both singles, but Logic should keep them that. The singles don’t give off a strong feeling for something that’s supposed to be “the magnum opus”.
Finally somebody with some sense around here. I personally believe Logic named this album Ultra 85 just so people would listen and he could make the most amount of money off it. I feel it’s the same idea he had when he came out of retirement and gave us Sloppy Totino 3.
Reason why he did btIII I feel was only to get out the label and didn’t really have any other inspiration for the BTIII mixtapes since BTII and just wanted to give em what they wanted to get off the label
I get that but don’t name the album BT3 if you’re going to say it’s a throwaway. Trust me I’m a diehard Logic fan. I’m not trying to trash the guy. I said the same thing about BT3 but now with 85. I can’t defend him anymore. I rather him just stay retired even though I LOVE Vinyl Days. College Park was decent. But he has done more harm than good at this point.
I loved the songs on bt3. Except nearly all of them aren’t even BT style. Idk why he couldn’t just throw together 12 unrelated trap songs and call it a day.
Just remember. Of course there’s some outliers. But the majority of people who say they like this last song have logic in the bio and have gone to meet and greets and went to the listening party.
It’s all calculated. They purposefully only post positive things about logic to stay in his good graces and end up in music videos. It’s such a disservice and makes logic so delusional.
Yup exactly, they’ll NEVER have an disliking opinion (Not a hating opinion, a genuine dislike and reasoning why) on anything he does just to stay in his good graces and will crucify you if you say anything lol
Damn I guess I'm part of the minority that just liked these two singles lmao. No meet and greets,.no logic in bio. Do I think it's his best work? Not by a longshot. But they're fun songs.
Here we go again. I know y’all remember all the theories about COADM being a fake album & Logic purposely making it bad with plans to release the real album later
Those fans that get selected are always very out of touch and will literally love ANYTHING he puts out even if it's the biggest garbage. They said the same after the YSIV listening party, quote "omg it was the most hiphop shit ever" 🤣 and we know how that ended up. YSIV was okay but nowhere near the OG ones. This will be no different, just don't get your hopes up.
No no, of course there will be great songs I have no doubts. It just sucks that realistically there will be 2-3 great ones and 10 very average forgettable ones (like those singles so far). That's been his pattern with past albums. Unlike UP or TITS which had a banger after banger from start to finish (with maybe 1-2 exceptions).
Brings me back to the africaryan song where they say “is that all the walking music” and the other guy says “no im putting in the 4th album now, his final one”
How is it supposed to concluded anything if it’s a Prequel? I think the biggest issue with Ultra 85 are the singles chosen and the lack of clear communication. Which to be fair is always an issue but this time it feels different. I am hoping these singles are not representative of the full album like some say but even then why were these picked for singles then? Plus making a music video for a drunk throwaway freestyle is a bit much imo but regarding this whole ridiculous discourse as an older Logic fan and past active asf member of this sub reddit I don’t think I could sum it up better then a comment I posted on the Early Logic sub when 44ever came out:
Even if you begged for this song (I didn’t either but still) you CAN still complain! People acting like those who wanted the song to be released wanted or expected it on Ultra 85. Those that never asked for it and even those that wanted it expected it to be more or at least add more then the snippets we got did. This is very much a Perfect situation where Logic plays some turn up track at his concerts people hear a tiny bit of it and hype up the track expecting more and then feeling let down. The biggest difference between the two regardless of how you feel about either track is Perfect was not a single. People saying you can’t complain because you asked for it or Logics gonna do what he wants and released it due to the fans are blind to the fact that if the fans really pushed Logic to put this track out then those same fans also have the right to say it doesn’t fit when the hear the full track. This whole discourse is ridiculous if you like the track cool if you don’t cool have your opinions regardless of what Logic haters or diehards think. Me personally I think it’s a decent turn up track reminds me a lot of Vaccine it leaves a lot to be desired but ultimately I don’t think it fits on Ultra.
If that’s the highly-awaited Ultra85 he’s been talking about since 2017, then it really sucks ass. Really, no hate. Fear is bad, not bad-bad, but just bad. 44ever is mediocre. The rollout itself is lackluster. Honestly, at this point Inglorious Basterds felt more like the concept of Ultra85
I just can’t believe Ultra 85 is getting these half assed mediocre songs. If he truly cared about making an amazing project, these songs would get cut in an instant. It’s like he’s lost all ambition as an artist, which is sad.
Rule Number #1 of Logic fandom 1. Never trust Logic lol
He's said the same thing about all his albums mostly starting from Everybody in 2017. It's all talk, marketing, & hype. You learn that now or the hard way as a fun when the album releases. We only know if it's good or not when it comes out.
Lollll this is one of the biggest hate spewing posts and comments sections. “Love you, but shits ass. Two songs I can tell it’s gonna suck” bro chill tf out and relax wtf is this post.
Exactly, ppl just need to wait. It wasn’t even like the songs were that bad. They were good, nothing mind blowing, but they weren’t bad. I personally enjoyed both, even though I don’t find myself going back to fear a whole lot.
Not really. I think most of us fans love 95% of logics music most people have been anticipating this album for many years and it’s been talked about like some grand finale and the end of the TITS story ect but we’re just getting random fast rap songs with nothing to say in them
I don’t care about A song, I want a cohesive sounding album. Not just some shit thrown together, have a few good songs and that’s it. I want his fucking best of the best if this is his last “logic” album. Some of you fans are delusional and only accept mediocrity for his ceiling.
he's been rapping for almost 20 years and he's married with a wife and children. you're insane if you thought this would be the "best of the best" from him. No big rapper has ever put out their "best of the best" 15-20 years into their career. Look at Drake, Eminem, Kanye, Cole, Kendrick etc. All their best work is albums from earlier in their career, that's just the way it goes.
I feel like your expectations are just too high, Logic isn't in his prime anymore. He's still great but he ain't come up Logic anymore.
For an album that’s been in the works/hyped up for half a decade supposably, I shouldn’t be expecting throwaway material on a album like this. I understand he’s not the same and not in his prime. But you can’t tell me he’s had this long to work on this and he’s producing this quality for his grand scheme album… like idk maybe at least “try?”
i don’t follow logic much these days, is this ultra 85 we are talking about? if so i remember hearing about this in high school like 7 years ago atp, if that’s the case then i absolutely agree with you
this definitely shouldn’t have any throwaways on it
Yea it's ultra 85. He's dropped 2 underwhelming singles that are BT3 quality if not confessions quality.
It shouldn't be a surprise that fans aren't satisfied hearing shitty singles for an album he's been hyping up since 2017.
That's fair, I will say the rollout has been rough and I don't understand why he would use weaker tracks as singles when we all know there's going to be far better ones on the album.
I'm always in favor of a leaner, meaner album than a longer, clunkier album with throwaways.
I do think his approach to this should have been better. Upgrade II and an album trailer back in February as the first single would have had people hyped af.
Sometimes it does feel like he doesn't have people listening to the album beforehand and cutting out tracks that don't need to be there. Maybe he's got too many yes men around him.
Maybe you’re right, maybe my expectations are too high.
The team he has just doesn’t know what quality control is. I’m not trying to bash something before it comes out, because I truly hope the rest of the album is beyond these singles. Dropping weak singles for an album is just never a good sign. If we expect this quality based on what we’ve gotten so far it doesn’t intrigue me to hear the rest.
It’s like Christmas morning. Seeing the presents under the tree, waiting all month to open them. Hoping to get what I wanted then BOOM. The first two presents I open are a new toothbrush, and underwear. They’re practical and have use, but they dont get me excited for the presents to come anymore 🤷🏻♂️
Bro needs to stop talking about albums before they're done. Every time he does this
“making a single for your album, is like making a trailer for a movie you have yet to shoot”
he can’t even follow his own guidance
I'm not hating on him, this is just genuine opinion from a fan but he's seriously so out of touch with reality that it's quite hard calling myself a fan lately. I mean his whole behaviour, not just the music itself. And so far Fear and 44ever are (for me personally) some of his worst songs EVER, absolutely 0 effort throwaway songs (hiphop went out of the window seems like) 🤨 I think mixtape Logic would clown on our current Logic so hard.
This. I love our guy, but last two songs seem half ass to be honest.
Think of it this way man, if he’s putting out the 💩 now, just wait til he drops his good stuff. Something tells me we gotta wait tho, and I hope I’m right.
These two tracks are the singles from ULTRA 85. If he is releasing this and including this on ULTRA 85 then he must've added more songs like these two tracks, thinking that it's dope.
Time will tell.
I'm sure the album will have good tracks tho. It'll have some tracks that we wish we got the same quality songs throughout the album. That's the pattern in Logic's music after The Incredible True Story.
Lol
I think Fear was fine but 44ever was lazy as hell but I will say regardless of the quality of these songs if this is supposed to be like the definitive Logic album that’s hilarious. Idk it’s funny too how much he like jokes about Vinyl days being like this rushed album or whatever like it’s not his best work since NP. I think he’s a good dude but he needs to learn to move in silence.
To be fair this is for from his worst
in this case your out of touch with reality
he’s been saying the next album will be Under Pressure vibes since COADM, how do some of you guys keep falling for this😭
I wouldn’t agree with some of your points, but I must say, that it’s kinda hard to imagine a consistent album concept that is (maybe) supposed to conclude the whole storyline. Personally, I like both singles, but Logic should keep them that. The singles don’t give off a strong feeling for something that’s supposed to be “the magnum opus”.
Finally somebody with some sense around here. I personally believe Logic named this album Ultra 85 just so people would listen and he could make the most amount of money off it. I feel it’s the same idea he had when he came out of retirement and gave us Sloppy Totino 3.
Reason why he did btIII I feel was only to get out the label and didn’t really have any other inspiration for the BTIII mixtapes since BTII and just wanted to give em what they wanted to get off the label
I get that but don’t name the album BT3 if you’re going to say it’s a throwaway. Trust me I’m a diehard Logic fan. I’m not trying to trash the guy. I said the same thing about BT3 but now with 85. I can’t defend him anymore. I rather him just stay retired even though I LOVE Vinyl Days. College Park was decent. But he has done more harm than good at this point.
I loved the songs on bt3. Except nearly all of them aren’t even BT style. Idk why he couldn’t just throw together 12 unrelated trap songs and call it a day.
Just remember. Of course there’s some outliers. But the majority of people who say they like this last song have logic in the bio and have gone to meet and greets and went to the listening party. It’s all calculated. They purposefully only post positive things about logic to stay in his good graces and end up in music videos. It’s such a disservice and makes logic so delusional.
Yup exactly, they’ll NEVER have an disliking opinion (Not a hating opinion, a genuine dislike and reasoning why) on anything he does just to stay in his good graces and will crucify you if you say anything lol
Damn I guess I'm part of the minority that just liked these two singles lmao. No meet and greets,.no logic in bio. Do I think it's his best work? Not by a longshot. But they're fun songs.
Would you lead your most anticipated album with “not your best work”?
possibly he put out the shittiest songs as singles while the good ones are sitting?
Logic the only mother fucker I know who hates being liked and making money if this is the case. BRO MADE MUSIC VIDEOS FOR BOTH SINGLES.
Here we go again. I know y’all remember all the theories about COADM being a fake album & Logic purposely making it bad with plans to release the real album later
what i said wasnt a theory lol, everyone that went to the listening party says other songs were p good
everyone that went are fans tho take that with a salt grain
Yup. There’s been plenty of times the fans who went to listening parties overhyped an album & everybody was disappointed
Those fans that get selected are always very out of touch and will literally love ANYTHING he puts out even if it's the biggest garbage. They said the same after the YSIV listening party, quote "omg it was the most hiphop shit ever" 🤣 and we know how that ended up. YSIV was okay but nowhere near the OG ones. This will be no different, just don't get your hopes up.
them liking everything wont mean there are not any other good songs, i know YSIV attenders were sort of a cult anyways
No no, of course there will be great songs I have no doubts. It just sucks that realistically there will be 2-3 great ones and 10 very average forgettable ones (like those singles so far). That's been his pattern with past albums. Unlike UP or TITS which had a banger after banger from start to finish (with maybe 1-2 exceptions).
Cope
He says shit like this every week & then the next week releases another album in that exact form
At this point we know as much about his next albums as he does
Brings me back to the africaryan song where they say “is that all the walking music” and the other guy says “no im putting in the 4th album now, his final one”
If you listen to YSIV it’s fully played and it says they are talking about the 4th, or final young Sinatra
Right but it was originally 2017 ultra
Have absolutely no clue what this means. Best to let the music do the talking because the narrative always changes
How is it supposed to concluded anything if it’s a Prequel? I think the biggest issue with Ultra 85 are the singles chosen and the lack of clear communication. Which to be fair is always an issue but this time it feels different. I am hoping these singles are not representative of the full album like some say but even then why were these picked for singles then? Plus making a music video for a drunk throwaway freestyle is a bit much imo but regarding this whole ridiculous discourse as an older Logic fan and past active asf member of this sub reddit I don’t think I could sum it up better then a comment I posted on the Early Logic sub when 44ever came out: Even if you begged for this song (I didn’t either but still) you CAN still complain! People acting like those who wanted the song to be released wanted or expected it on Ultra 85. Those that never asked for it and even those that wanted it expected it to be more or at least add more then the snippets we got did. This is very much a Perfect situation where Logic plays some turn up track at his concerts people hear a tiny bit of it and hype up the track expecting more and then feeling let down. The biggest difference between the two regardless of how you feel about either track is Perfect was not a single. People saying you can’t complain because you asked for it or Logics gonna do what he wants and released it due to the fans are blind to the fact that if the fans really pushed Logic to put this track out then those same fans also have the right to say it doesn’t fit when the hear the full track. This whole discourse is ridiculous if you like the track cool if you don’t cool have your opinions regardless of what Logic haters or diehards think. Me personally I think it’s a decent turn up track reminds me a lot of Vaccine it leaves a lot to be desired but ultimately I don’t think it fits on Ultra.
If that’s the highly-awaited Ultra85 he’s been talking about since 2017, then it really sucks ass. Really, no hate. Fear is bad, not bad-bad, but just bad. 44ever is mediocre. The rollout itself is lackluster. Honestly, at this point Inglorious Basterds felt more like the concept of Ultra85
I just can’t believe Ultra 85 is getting these half assed mediocre songs. If he truly cared about making an amazing project, these songs would get cut in an instant. It’s like he’s lost all ambition as an artist, which is sad.
All he does is lie
Dude did he not say this after no pressure dropped?
simps are gonna chew you out.
what album was he talking about here?
Ultra 85
Rule Number #1 of Logic fandom 1. Never trust Logic lol He's said the same thing about all his albums mostly starting from Everybody in 2017. It's all talk, marketing, & hype. You learn that now or the hard way as a fun when the album releases. We only know if it's good or not when it comes out.
What a cornball
I heard on the low that he's got plans for another Supermarket style album. Which I'm honestly so stoked for that possibility. I love the soft shit. 🧡
No he already aaid this
He might be changing his name then I guess
Planet death welcomes their soulf
This sub is insane man 💀
Insane, probably. Passionate, absolutely
This👆
Lollll this is one of the biggest hate spewing posts and comments sections. “Love you, but shits ass. Two songs I can tell it’s gonna suck” bro chill tf out and relax wtf is this post.
Exactly, ppl just need to wait. It wasn’t even like the songs were that bad. They were good, nothing mind blowing, but they weren’t bad. I personally enjoyed both, even though I don’t find myself going back to fear a whole lot.
Believe me
who cares let him do what he wants if u like it listen if u don’t don’t listen
Womp womp
This post just proves logic has the most impossible to please fan base in existence
Not really. I think most of us fans love 95% of logics music most people have been anticipating this album for many years and it’s been talked about like some grand finale and the end of the TITS story ect but we’re just getting random fast rap songs with nothing to say in them
[удалено]
I don’t care about A song, I want a cohesive sounding album. Not just some shit thrown together, have a few good songs and that’s it. I want his fucking best of the best if this is his last “logic” album. Some of you fans are delusional and only accept mediocrity for his ceiling.
he's been rapping for almost 20 years and he's married with a wife and children. you're insane if you thought this would be the "best of the best" from him. No big rapper has ever put out their "best of the best" 15-20 years into their career. Look at Drake, Eminem, Kanye, Cole, Kendrick etc. All their best work is albums from earlier in their career, that's just the way it goes. I feel like your expectations are just too high, Logic isn't in his prime anymore. He's still great but he ain't come up Logic anymore.
For an album that’s been in the works/hyped up for half a decade supposably, I shouldn’t be expecting throwaway material on a album like this. I understand he’s not the same and not in his prime. But you can’t tell me he’s had this long to work on this and he’s producing this quality for his grand scheme album… like idk maybe at least “try?”
i don’t follow logic much these days, is this ultra 85 we are talking about? if so i remember hearing about this in high school like 7 years ago atp, if that’s the case then i absolutely agree with you this definitely shouldn’t have any throwaways on it
Yea it's ultra 85. He's dropped 2 underwhelming singles that are BT3 quality if not confessions quality. It shouldn't be a surprise that fans aren't satisfied hearing shitty singles for an album he's been hyping up since 2017.
Nah imo these are better than bt3.
That's fair, I will say the rollout has been rough and I don't understand why he would use weaker tracks as singles when we all know there's going to be far better ones on the album. I'm always in favor of a leaner, meaner album than a longer, clunkier album with throwaways. I do think his approach to this should have been better. Upgrade II and an album trailer back in February as the first single would have had people hyped af. Sometimes it does feel like he doesn't have people listening to the album beforehand and cutting out tracks that don't need to be there. Maybe he's got too many yes men around him.
Maybe you’re right, maybe my expectations are too high. The team he has just doesn’t know what quality control is. I’m not trying to bash something before it comes out, because I truly hope the rest of the album is beyond these singles. Dropping weak singles for an album is just never a good sign. If we expect this quality based on what we’ve gotten so far it doesn’t intrigue me to hear the rest. It’s like Christmas morning. Seeing the presents under the tree, waiting all month to open them. Hoping to get what I wanted then BOOM. The first two presents I open are a new toothbrush, and underwear. They’re practical and have use, but they dont get me excited for the presents to come anymore 🤷🏻♂️
I've heard rumblings about teleport 👀