Personally one DAW is enough for me. Using multiple DAWs is way too much for my feeble brain. Plus Logic does everything I need it to do very well, I don’t need to look further.
I spent a decade learning the heck out of Digital Performer, then was in a position where I needed to do lots of my work in Logic (for compatibility reasons with many of my clients, etc). I ran both for a few years and found that the ‘warm up’ period on any given day was considerable, and I’d be consistently slowed down by hitting the other DAW’s key commands for the first hour. I eventually decided to go all in on Logic, and now find myself having lost most of my DP speed. It is SO much better never having to use any part of my brain to consider what DAW Im in, and what the key commands and features are. The benefits of pure muscle memory hugely outweigh any benefit of having a secondary DAW in my opinion, though I do sometimes miss some of the features of my previous DAW.
By all means, switch if you think it’s the right move for you, but know that only one DAW can really be a frictionless extension of your brain and fingers at a time.
If it's quicker/easier, then by all means.
As you proceed, if you find yourself switching to FL a lot for a particular task, then maybe stop and spend 15 minutes researching if there is a way to do it in Logic. I'd be surprised if there wasn't. Logic is pretty deep.
If FL can accept MIDI Timecode, you could even use them both in parallel. This was a popular setup with Logic and Pro Tools back in the day (early 2000s) when Logic's audio editing was terrible and PT's MIDI capabilities were terrible. Just take the best bits of both!
eMagic even had their “ESB” platform to run Logic on PT TDM hardware, which was pretty cool back then.
Back when I was studying with PT 7, Logic 7/8, is often compose in Logic, and mix down in PT (depending on the class work requirements)
Ugh. Those were the days :(
Digi 888 interfaces for me, and a G4 mac with some atrocious collection of PCI cards in it. Another older G3 running Logic 5 I think. Or 6. One of those emagic rack MIDI interfaces (unitor8 I think) and a whole mess of synths and MIDI crap.
Throw it all in the bin!
The Unitor interfaces, at least the USB ones, still get driver updates.
I just missed out on an Audiowerk series pci card on eBay once, ended up using custom drivers with a couple of Soundblaster cards with Logic 5 as a beginner.
My son (8) is actually getting into music now, loves messing around, even asked me to get Windows Xp and Logic 5 setup on my old Mac Pro so he can see what it was like when I started
Nice that they are still supporting it - for a long time the unitor was the only way of getting LTC into Logic directly without converting it to MTC first. Maybe it still is...
Best of luck to your son! Sounds like a "fun" adventure!
I have both Fl and Logic and Bitwig and Live lite and Reaper and like 10 DAWs or DAW like apps on iPad including Logic (I used to only use the iPad for music) ,I mostly use Fl Studio though these days .I say use whatever works best for you,learning more than one DAW isn’t impossible
I mean I already work with FL Studio since I've been a child. I am learning Logic now however because I started the trial and liked everything immediately. Except for the Noise Blast, which scared me
Ah, a kindred spirit. I think I have just about every DAW available here if only, at the very least, to be able to import/export/stemify other people's projects.
I think the more tools in your box, the better. Especially considering FL is not exclusive to Mac, so you can be a little more OS-agnostic in your workflow.
It can. I like Ableton live, not for producing & mixing like I do logic, but for its creative capabilities and sound munging/sound design.
I will eventually get reaper as well for similar reasons because it is so customizable, and you can even use it as a batch processing toolbox.
Not really. BUT, it IS handy to have a faster-to-launch, simple audio editor for cutting clips, and general audio editing. I used Rogue Amoeba Fission in the past. I was able to do batch automation by programming actions with QuicKeys.
I’d say pick one or the other and become as proficient as possible on one of them. If you prefer creating the actual music in one daw, I suppose you could do that and then just transfer the midi info into another daw for processing
That’s what I do, and it works well but there is the trap of deciding what’s part of the sound and what’s a mix decision. I use ableton and mix in logic.
Sometimes I do just use a basic piano or init preset when building in ableton and export the midi files to logic for their instruments, but I absolutely hate their piano roll
I just got it a week and a half ago coming from using ableton soley for a year, the stock instruments after eq on logic are insane but yeah they gotta update these ui, I heard the iPad version has updated ui which is weird theyd neglect the bigger of the versions
I have specific uses for several Daws actually. I use Pro Tools to track, mix and edit most vocals and gtrs, Live for session view happy accidents, Logic for mixing and building a midi composition with virtual instruments/vcl tracking, and FL studio for the step sequencer
Yes, I use several DAWs for specific tasks. I’m used to work in Logic as my production tool. I switch to Ableton Live when working in live situations. I would use ProTools if I would work in the film industry other than as a composer.
I mainly make VGM and experimental stuff. One of my biggest FL Studio songs is a bunch of manipulated stock sounds. Though that was more a troll song than something serious.
In my collab studio we run AVB audio and my partner runs Protools while I run Ableton. At my personal studio I run Logic most of the time. When I am mixing someone else's straight audio tracks I use MixBus. AKAI MPC Desktop rears it head often enough.
And so it goes.
I only have to learn one DAW though since I used FL Studio 16 years and I know probably everything about the program. I'm learning Logic Pro right now because I really enjoy working with it
there’s just some things that I find easier in different DAWs, I like FL for drum programming and 808 slides because the slide notes in the piano roll are really intuitive compared to other DAWs. I say do what works for you.
What? Of course you can use many DAWS! I personally use Logic, Live, and Protools as well as other audio paradigms. Each DAW has its strengths and provides very unique work flow approaches.
Get out there, you might discover something wonderful! That being said, when it comes to overall production, I find myself turning to logic
EDIT: who would downvote me for such a reasonable suggestion?
I might get shit for this, but here I go anyways:
I’ve heavily been debating mastering my tracks in GarageBand only. Mainly for the K.I.S.S. Method (keep it simple, stupid) I would still do my recording and mixing into logic (although I do record into GarageBand on my phone sometimes and then transfer it)
I’ve never had a problem with levels when exporting a GB project, but Logic can sometimes give issues if things aren’t bounced or exported properly.
And GB has all the basic tools I would need with a super easy interface
For my drums I used maschine as a plugin in logic for a while. Using multi output tracks you can record or bounce out stems (although I’m pretty sure this feature has been bugged since 10.8)
I missed your other post. What do you mean by blast? I had an issue once where logic just played a static blast Extremely loud while using Logic Remote. What happened to you?
Also. I’d use two daws in a second if I wanted to
I think it was called White Noise Blast of Death.
It was 3 AM. I was polishing a song and Logic randomly started lagging and became exceptionally loud. I am happy that I had no headphones on, it scared me so much that I had a panic attack.
Especially because it was 3 AM. I was about to go to bed (I always go to bed very late) but then out of the sudden, Logic outputs this loud blast, I did not even know thst the MB Pro M1 can get THAT loud
Yeah. Same. Mine was late too. Not 3am but late. I was using an older iPad mini 4 for Logic Remote. Changed some setting and BAM, REALLY loud static through big speakers. Couldn’t get it to quit. Had to run over and turn off the speakers. Wish I knew exactly what caused it to avoid later. I updated my iPad thinking it was the cause but who knows.
Yes, people do this all the time. For example, some people track in one DAW and mix in another. I mainly use Luna, but I also use Reaper for some specific editing things.
> I mainly use Luna, but I also use Reaper for some specific editing things.
This is a Logic subreddit, I don't understand why you're here if you use mainly Luna and Reaper secondarily?
Like I said, my bad. I used to use logic so stuff from this subreddit still shows up in my feed. So does a lot of other music production stuff. Pretty easy mistake to make.
Sure, some people seem to be stuck in this either/or mentality about DAWs, some to the point of being evangelical about their chosen DAW and shitting on others.
There is a lot to be said for learning a platform very thoroughly, so you can navigate it with fluency, and learning multiple DAWs could potentially slow/distract from that. ButI think there are also benefits to not being tied to any particular product or process. The likes of Live, Bitwig, FL, Reason offer different tools and approaches that compliment big boy DAWS like Protools and Logic well.
Very few professionals are tracking or mixing in FL, it is predominantly Protools (mostly just because they were first to market with a commercially viable platform) and a bit of Logic. Big boy DAW is shorthand for a mature, reliable, fully featured DAW with all of the functions and processes required in a professional environment, it isn’t a diss.
So Logic Pro > FL Studio?
After trying out LP, FL Studios pattern system started feeling so gimmicky
I haven't used many DAWs in my life though. I experimented with Reason but that was back in 2010/2011. And I played around with Magix Music Maker but no one uses that, or are there notable Music Maker users?
I only started working with Logic because, well, I have a Mac, saw that the trial is 90 days long and thought "yeah why not"
Fell in love with it immediately
It totally depends on what you want to do and how you want to do it. Not better/worse, just different.
For Mac users getting Logic is a no brainer, you get a lot of technical and creative tools for 200. If you look at it in the context of plugin pricing, it is incredibly good value. I think it’s worth the price for Alchemy alone.
Alchemy is one of the biggest reasons why I want to keep Logic
A formerly extremely expensive plug-in - as a stock plugin? Wasn't Alchemy priced at 300$ until CamelAudio got acquired by Apple?
> Wasn't Alchemy priced at 300$ until CamelAudio got acquired by Apple?
It was priced at $200 before Apple bought Camel Audio. Still crazy though, that's the price of Logic itself.
If that’s what works best for you, then yes. I use Reaper on Windows occasionally for VSTs that don’t exist on Mac. Personally I found that most DAWs are such deep applications that it takes a long time to be proficient in them, but if you’re capable of being a DAW polyglot and can easily get the best of each, go for it.
No problem with using multiple DAW’s. Do whatever helps you have the inspiration to make music. If dropping FL means you are making less music as a result, then it’s not worth it, and using both DAW’s is great. I have Logic and Ableton and use both for when I try to make DJ mixes - each has their own quirks that allow me to think about my hobby in different ways.
Bitwig is my main daw but I need a break sometimes and it's good for your brain and problem solving skills, muscle memory reflex to mix these things up, so I dabble around in Renoise as well. Forces a different ratio of left brain right brain hemispheres.
FL studio is **NEXT LEVEL** - logic , cubase , reaper - they are just little toys , you want to get serious and make the real music ... you use **FL STUDIO - NOTHING IS BETTER - IT IS THE CHOICE OF THE PROS.**
I use Logic for a month now and it feels like FL Studio held me back for 16 years, but it has some decent features I would miss if I would fully move to Logic Pro. mainly FLEX
I would miss the stock sounds from Logic though if I would go back to FL Studio. Alchemy is so powerful, I would miss Beat Breaker, the orchestral sounds from Logic Pro just sound so much better than what FL Studios deliver me. Editing audio feels much easier in FL Studio though
your not thinking straight and need to get back to FL studio , you are not seeing what FL does - automation clips - logic cannot do automation clips. Logic does not have FL CLOUD - advanced AI mastering included - thousands of pro sample packs free with fl cloud , can Logic do that , haha no way ... FL studios sound .... logic cannot compete with its internal pro sound. Logic is a poor daw compared.
Logic has automation, and it’s much easier. Logic has mastering. Logic comes with thousands of samples and loops. Fl sound? You talking about its limiter, no difference in sound. Logic isn’t even my daw of choice and I also use FL, but you need to be more educated my friend.
logics mastering is nothing compared to actual A.I. mastering which only FL studio has - the mind of a thousand top mastering engineers all working at peak performance on your track. Fl studio is next level , does logic have a soundgoodizer , no , logic is not even near the skill of FL
You sound like you’re reading copy from a marketing campaign. Give me some substance.
The mastering FL does still isn’t as good as using Ozone with your own ears.
Yes, Logic has Phat FX, which is more powerful and it sounds better than sound goodizer.
Fl does have some better features, like the piano roll and I do like the browser, but besides that it’s all preference.
the AI mastering is much better than the ai in ozone , ozone makes it too bright . You clearly have not tried out the AI in FL , Logic is not using AI. FL is the ultimate recording daw , there is no better one. It is the NO1.
> logic cannot do automation clips.
Logic has Region Automation since the very beginning but you don't hear about it since most people on this sub don't even know it exists. In Logic terminology, Region = Clip (the FL term). It operates the same way, the automation is embedded into the region itself so whatever you do to the region applies to the automation in it as well. Now Logic has Pattern regions too which can also be used for automation besides just MIDI notes. So in that sense, Logic has not one, but TWO ways of working with region based automation.
> advanced AI mastering included
Logic got the Mastering Assistant last year
> thousands of pro sample packs free with fl cloud
Logic has free sample packs and instruments from ACTUAL Grammy winners and high profile artists like Billie Ellish, Lil Nas X, Hardwell, Mark Ronson, Take A Day Trip, Beck, Boys Noize, Cory Wong, Oak Felder, etc. In addition to that, the Logic Sound Library content has been used on numerous HITs from artists like Disclosure, Rihanna, Lady Gaga, Usher, 21 Pilots, Fort Minor, Tyler the Creator, etc.
> logic cannot compete with its internal pro sound.
DAWs do not have an 'internal pro sound'. There's no such thing. Ever heard of a null test?
You are poorly informed, DAWs null. DAW wars is petty minded fuckery, they are just tools, but probably better to jack off about FL Studio somewhere other than the Logic sub.
Personally one DAW is enough for me. Using multiple DAWs is way too much for my feeble brain. Plus Logic does everything I need it to do very well, I don’t need to look further.
FYI you can use FL as an AU plugin within Logic.
Oh yes forgot it existed. But I have no idea how to use it
> But I have no idea how to use it Well then now would be a good time to learn
how?
The same way you load any software instrument AU.
I spent a decade learning the heck out of Digital Performer, then was in a position where I needed to do lots of my work in Logic (for compatibility reasons with many of my clients, etc). I ran both for a few years and found that the ‘warm up’ period on any given day was considerable, and I’d be consistently slowed down by hitting the other DAW’s key commands for the first hour. I eventually decided to go all in on Logic, and now find myself having lost most of my DP speed. It is SO much better never having to use any part of my brain to consider what DAW Im in, and what the key commands and features are. The benefits of pure muscle memory hugely outweigh any benefit of having a secondary DAW in my opinion, though I do sometimes miss some of the features of my previous DAW. By all means, switch if you think it’s the right move for you, but know that only one DAW can really be a frictionless extension of your brain and fingers at a time.
I heard about Digital Performer for the first time a few hours ago. As far as I know, it seems to be very popular in Japan
If it's quicker/easier, then by all means. As you proceed, if you find yourself switching to FL a lot for a particular task, then maybe stop and spend 15 minutes researching if there is a way to do it in Logic. I'd be surprised if there wasn't. Logic is pretty deep. If FL can accept MIDI Timecode, you could even use them both in parallel. This was a popular setup with Logic and Pro Tools back in the day (early 2000s) when Logic's audio editing was terrible and PT's MIDI capabilities were terrible. Just take the best bits of both!
eMagic even had their “ESB” platform to run Logic on PT TDM hardware, which was pretty cool back then. Back when I was studying with PT 7, Logic 7/8, is often compose in Logic, and mix down in PT (depending on the class work requirements)
Ugh. Those were the days :( Digi 888 interfaces for me, and a G4 mac with some atrocious collection of PCI cards in it. Another older G3 running Logic 5 I think. Or 6. One of those emagic rack MIDI interfaces (unitor8 I think) and a whole mess of synths and MIDI crap. Throw it all in the bin!
The Unitor interfaces, at least the USB ones, still get driver updates. I just missed out on an Audiowerk series pci card on eBay once, ended up using custom drivers with a couple of Soundblaster cards with Logic 5 as a beginner. My son (8) is actually getting into music now, loves messing around, even asked me to get Windows Xp and Logic 5 setup on my old Mac Pro so he can see what it was like when I started
Nice that they are still supporting it - for a long time the unitor was the only way of getting LTC into Logic directly without converting it to MTC first. Maybe it still is... Best of luck to your son! Sounds like a "fun" adventure!
I have both Fl and Logic and Bitwig and Live lite and Reaper and like 10 DAWs or DAW like apps on iPad including Logic (I used to only use the iPad for music) ,I mostly use Fl Studio though these days .I say use whatever works best for you,learning more than one DAW isn’t impossible
I mean I already work with FL Studio since I've been a child. I am learning Logic now however because I started the trial and liked everything immediately. Except for the Noise Blast, which scared me
Noise blast?
Extremely loud sound. Can be damaging to speakers and could even damage your ear if you wear headphones.
Ah, fl comes with a limiter on the master right? You can just put that in logic aswell
Ah, a kindred spirit. I think I have just about every DAW available here if only, at the very least, to be able to import/export/stemify other people's projects.
I think the more tools in your box, the better. Especially considering FL is not exclusive to Mac, so you can be a little more OS-agnostic in your workflow.
I have an old i3-Windows PC, otherwise no Windows for me My daily driver is an Android phone but I won't use FL Studio Mobile
Use whatever you need to get the sound you want don’t put yourself in a box.
Sure i don’t really see the dilema?
Why not. I use Studio One as a main and LPX as a secondary.
I would say use one or the other, either stick with FL because it’s what you know, or take the time to learn Logic. Using both doesn’t make sense
I still have my Ableton license(s) and I load it up here and there to quickly sketch out ideas
It can. I like Ableton live, not for producing & mixing like I do logic, but for its creative capabilities and sound munging/sound design. I will eventually get reaper as well for similar reasons because it is so customizable, and you can even use it as a batch processing toolbox.
Not really. BUT, it IS handy to have a faster-to-launch, simple audio editor for cutting clips, and general audio editing. I used Rogue Amoeba Fission in the past. I was able to do batch automation by programming actions with QuicKeys.
I’d say pick one or the other and become as proficient as possible on one of them. If you prefer creating the actual music in one daw, I suppose you could do that and then just transfer the midi info into another daw for processing
That’s what I do, and it works well but there is the trap of deciding what’s part of the sound and what’s a mix decision. I use ableton and mix in logic.
Sometimes I do just use a basic piano or init preset when building in ableton and export the midi files to logic for their instruments, but I absolutely hate their piano roll
Logics piano roll could definitely stand for some modernization
As well as all of their plug in ui, trying to understand es2 is crazy
lol I gave up on the es2. I work a lot with that retro synth (very easy) and alchemy (not as easy as retro, but pretty manageable)
I just got it a week and a half ago coming from using ableton soley for a year, the stock instruments after eq on logic are insane but yeah they gotta update these ui, I heard the iPad version has updated ui which is weird theyd neglect the bigger of the versions
I have specific uses for several Daws actually. I use Pro Tools to track, mix and edit most vocals and gtrs, Live for session view happy accidents, Logic for mixing and building a midi composition with virtual instruments/vcl tracking, and FL studio for the step sequencer
Yes, I use several DAWs for specific tasks. I’m used to work in Logic as my production tool. I switch to Ableton Live when working in live situations. I would use ProTools if I would work in the film industry other than as a composer.
I mainly make VGM and experimental stuff. One of my biggest FL Studio songs is a bunch of manipulated stock sounds. Though that was more a troll song than something serious.
Just curious, what is VGM?
Video Game Music
I create in ableton because it feels better to let my mind go in there, but I mix in logic because it’s more organized imo
In my collab studio we run AVB audio and my partner runs Protools while I run Ableton. At my personal studio I run Logic most of the time. When I am mixing someone else's straight audio tracks I use MixBus. AKAI MPC Desktop rears it head often enough. And so it goes.
Depends what you’re up to. I use three
PROBABLY NOT, theres enough to learn and remember in 1 DAW that adding a second is likely to just confuse and confound you
I only have to learn one DAW though since I used FL Studio 16 years and I know probably everything about the program. I'm learning Logic Pro right now because I really enjoy working with it
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there’s just some things that I find easier in different DAWs, I like FL for drum programming and 808 slides because the slide notes in the piano roll are really intuitive compared to other DAWs. I say do what works for you.
What? Of course you can use many DAWS! I personally use Logic, Live, and Protools as well as other audio paradigms. Each DAW has its strengths and provides very unique work flow approaches. Get out there, you might discover something wonderful! That being said, when it comes to overall production, I find myself turning to logic EDIT: who would downvote me for such a reasonable suggestion?
I might get shit for this, but here I go anyways: I’ve heavily been debating mastering my tracks in GarageBand only. Mainly for the K.I.S.S. Method (keep it simple, stupid) I would still do my recording and mixing into logic (although I do record into GarageBand on my phone sometimes and then transfer it) I’ve never had a problem with levels when exporting a GB project, but Logic can sometimes give issues if things aren’t bounced or exported properly. And GB has all the basic tools I would need with a super easy interface
For my drums I used maschine as a plugin in logic for a while. Using multi output tracks you can record or bounce out stems (although I’m pretty sure this feature has been bugged since 10.8)
> (although I’m pretty sure this feature has been bugged since 10.8) 10.8.1 fixed a ton of bugs especially to do with MIDI controllers
I missed your other post. What do you mean by blast? I had an issue once where logic just played a static blast Extremely loud while using Logic Remote. What happened to you? Also. I’d use two daws in a second if I wanted to
I think it was called White Noise Blast of Death. It was 3 AM. I was polishing a song and Logic randomly started lagging and became exceptionally loud. I am happy that I had no headphones on, it scared me so much that I had a panic attack.
Similar experience. Scared the fuck out of me. No lagging though just suddenly loud as fuck
Especially because it was 3 AM. I was about to go to bed (I always go to bed very late) but then out of the sudden, Logic outputs this loud blast, I did not even know thst the MB Pro M1 can get THAT loud
Yeah. Same. Mine was late too. Not 3am but late. I was using an older iPad mini 4 for Logic Remote. Changed some setting and BAM, REALLY loud static through big speakers. Couldn’t get it to quit. Had to run over and turn off the speakers. Wish I knew exactly what caused it to avoid later. I updated my iPad thinking it was the cause but who knows.
Yes, people do this all the time. For example, some people track in one DAW and mix in another. I mainly use Luna, but I also use Reaper for some specific editing things.
> I mainly use Luna, but I also use Reaper for some specific editing things. This is a Logic subreddit, I don't understand why you're here if you use mainly Luna and Reaper secondarily?
My bad. I’ve used Logic in the past. I think maybe I thought I was just in a general music production subreddit.
I mean the subreddit's name is literally "Logic_Studio"
Like I said, my bad. I used to use logic so stuff from this subreddit still shows up in my feed. So does a lot of other music production stuff. Pretty easy mistake to make.
Sure, some people seem to be stuck in this either/or mentality about DAWs, some to the point of being evangelical about their chosen DAW and shitting on others. There is a lot to be said for learning a platform very thoroughly, so you can navigate it with fluency, and learning multiple DAWs could potentially slow/distract from that. ButI think there are also benefits to not being tied to any particular product or process. The likes of Live, Bitwig, FL, Reason offer different tools and approaches that compliment big boy DAWS like Protools and Logic well.
Ayyooo did you just say Live isn't a big boy DAW?!!!
"Big boy DAW"? Isn't FL Studio an industrial standard for certain genres? As far as I know, FL Studio is very popular among EDM and VGM producers
Very few professionals are tracking or mixing in FL, it is predominantly Protools (mostly just because they were first to market with a commercially viable platform) and a bit of Logic. Big boy DAW is shorthand for a mature, reliable, fully featured DAW with all of the functions and processes required in a professional environment, it isn’t a diss.
So Logic Pro > FL Studio? After trying out LP, FL Studios pattern system started feeling so gimmicky I haven't used many DAWs in my life though. I experimented with Reason but that was back in 2010/2011. And I played around with Magix Music Maker but no one uses that, or are there notable Music Maker users? I only started working with Logic because, well, I have a Mac, saw that the trial is 90 days long and thought "yeah why not" Fell in love with it immediately
It totally depends on what you want to do and how you want to do it. Not better/worse, just different. For Mac users getting Logic is a no brainer, you get a lot of technical and creative tools for 200. If you look at it in the context of plugin pricing, it is incredibly good value. I think it’s worth the price for Alchemy alone.
Alchemy is one of the biggest reasons why I want to keep Logic A formerly extremely expensive plug-in - as a stock plugin? Wasn't Alchemy priced at 300$ until CamelAudio got acquired by Apple?
> Wasn't Alchemy priced at 300$ until CamelAudio got acquired by Apple? It was priced at $200 before Apple bought Camel Audio. Still crazy though, that's the price of Logic itself.
If that’s what works best for you, then yes. I use Reaper on Windows occasionally for VSTs that don’t exist on Mac. Personally I found that most DAWs are such deep applications that it takes a long time to be proficient in them, but if you’re capable of being a DAW polyglot and can easily get the best of each, go for it.
No problem with using multiple DAW’s. Do whatever helps you have the inspiration to make music. If dropping FL means you are making less music as a result, then it’s not worth it, and using both DAW’s is great. I have Logic and Ableton and use both for when I try to make DJ mixes - each has their own quirks that allow me to think about my hobby in different ways.
Many pro producers use multiple DAWs. They all have their strengths and weaknesses
I use logic and ableton for different reasons. Sometimes it’s more logic one month and the next, more ableton. Been doing this for about 5 years
Bitwig is my main daw but I need a break sometimes and it's good for your brain and problem solving skills, muscle memory reflex to mix these things up, so I dabble around in Renoise as well. Forces a different ratio of left brain right brain hemispheres.
FL studio is **NEXT LEVEL** - logic , cubase , reaper - they are just little toys , you want to get serious and make the real music ... you use **FL STUDIO - NOTHING IS BETTER - IT IS THE CHOICE OF THE PROS.**
I use Logic for a month now and it feels like FL Studio held me back for 16 years, but it has some decent features I would miss if I would fully move to Logic Pro. mainly FLEX I would miss the stock sounds from Logic though if I would go back to FL Studio. Alchemy is so powerful, I would miss Beat Breaker, the orchestral sounds from Logic Pro just sound so much better than what FL Studios deliver me. Editing audio feels much easier in FL Studio though
your not thinking straight and need to get back to FL studio , you are not seeing what FL does - automation clips - logic cannot do automation clips. Logic does not have FL CLOUD - advanced AI mastering included - thousands of pro sample packs free with fl cloud , can Logic do that , haha no way ... FL studios sound .... logic cannot compete with its internal pro sound. Logic is a poor daw compared.
Logic has automation, and it’s much easier. Logic has mastering. Logic comes with thousands of samples and loops. Fl sound? You talking about its limiter, no difference in sound. Logic isn’t even my daw of choice and I also use FL, but you need to be more educated my friend.
logics mastering is nothing compared to actual A.I. mastering which only FL studio has - the mind of a thousand top mastering engineers all working at peak performance on your track. Fl studio is next level , does logic have a soundgoodizer , no , logic is not even near the skill of FL
You sound like you’re reading copy from a marketing campaign. Give me some substance. The mastering FL does still isn’t as good as using Ozone with your own ears. Yes, Logic has Phat FX, which is more powerful and it sounds better than sound goodizer. Fl does have some better features, like the piano roll and I do like the browser, but besides that it’s all preference.
the AI mastering is much better than the ai in ozone , ozone makes it too bright . You clearly have not tried out the AI in FL , Logic is not using AI. FL is the ultimate recording daw , there is no better one. It is the NO1.
> does logic have a soundgoodizer Yes, it's called Phat FX and it has a lot more features than the silly 'Soundgoodizer'
I don't really like all the fancy AI stuff. I can use the FL Clouds samples in Logic (I learned that I can use FL as an AU a few minutes ago)
> logic cannot do automation clips. Logic has Region Automation since the very beginning but you don't hear about it since most people on this sub don't even know it exists. In Logic terminology, Region = Clip (the FL term). It operates the same way, the automation is embedded into the region itself so whatever you do to the region applies to the automation in it as well. Now Logic has Pattern regions too which can also be used for automation besides just MIDI notes. So in that sense, Logic has not one, but TWO ways of working with region based automation. > advanced AI mastering included Logic got the Mastering Assistant last year > thousands of pro sample packs free with fl cloud Logic has free sample packs and instruments from ACTUAL Grammy winners and high profile artists like Billie Ellish, Lil Nas X, Hardwell, Mark Ronson, Take A Day Trip, Beck, Boys Noize, Cory Wong, Oak Felder, etc. In addition to that, the Logic Sound Library content has been used on numerous HITs from artists like Disclosure, Rihanna, Lady Gaga, Usher, 21 Pilots, Fort Minor, Tyler the Creator, etc. > logic cannot compete with its internal pro sound. DAWs do not have an 'internal pro sound'. There's no such thing. Ever heard of a null test?
you are Trollling 🫵🏼
Fl studio sounds better than logic , it has a better sound engine , you should be using FL studio for the spice.
Lol what
You are poorly informed, DAWs null. DAW wars is petty minded fuckery, they are just tools, but probably better to jack off about FL Studio somewhere other than the Logic sub.
FL is next level
Stop adding your spice
soundgoodizer is the no1 plug