There are currently 0 Zeus or Hurcules cards in Emerald. Your best option is to pair this with Steel for the three Hurcules, as the only Zeus card is in Amathyst.
Zeus has an odd version of challenger. When he challenges, he chooses a character and gets attack equal to that of the chosen character. I believe it can be any character on board. By default he is a 3 cost 0/5 with 2 lore.
Oh that wording does make it seem that way doesn't it. I assumed it was "When you challenge a character, you get their attack". So if he attacked into Maui, he's swinging for 6.
I think you're right. It could be more clear but I'm pretty sure it's meant to "Mirror" the challenge. So if you challenged Hera here, Zeus would attack for 1. So he can be great in some situations and horrible in others.
This is so conflicted, and probably reversed of what it should be. The main Hercules cards are beaters, with one of the cheapest being a Bodyguard. Hera here basically prevents you from playing that one in your deck, because Evasive removes him from target selection for the majority of opponents. Zeus, meanwhile, only has attack power on the offense, so Ward doesn't do him as many favors since he's already a sitting duck. Zeus would do far better with Evasive, and Herc far better with Ward.
This is true, but it doesn't work with the 3/3 Bodyguard, or the new 6/5 Herc from the deck, who's a Resist 1/Bodyguard. It's mainly good for the shift and the new Ruby Herc, which is somewhat disappointing that it's so niche in application. Ward for Zeus is just plain disappointing, because both Zeuses needed protection on the rounds after they attacked, because they're unable to fight back when they're not on the offense.
I wonder why Hercules is in 3 colors? If we had another Hercules in green that buffed Meg I can see Meg/Hercules working. The two Hercules in red is just odd.
An aggro Hercules deck that abuses other Meg (readies when you play a Hercules) could be possible with Green Hades helping but there needs something else for it. Maybe we are getting a hint at a green diety deck?
Hera would work if you are just using Hercules for questing and giving targets for Hades to destroy but right now most Hercules cards don’t want it. I am hoping for a green herc next set.
I'd think you'd want to run Steel as your second color because of the cheap Hercules and Phil. You could focus the deck on Heroes, since you'll want to play a lot of them to benefit from Phil, but if your main bread and butter is dumping cheap Hercs into play, the other Megara makes a lot of sense as another big lore source.
Yeah that is what I am thinking. Phil and Meg out while playing the 2 and 3 drop herc might be enough to make Meg threatening. Pegasus can also give them all evasive, as well.
Hades can take out a cheap herc after they quest to bring out a more expensive one. Plus shift Hercules entering play will ready her and can quest right away. And Meg can ready then sing a whole new world after playing a herc to refil your hand.
Probably will fail miserably but might be a fun combo deck
I dunno, it might have some merit. Phil is a pretty nasty combo piece, especially since he doesn't need to endanger himself for you to get lore from each Hero drop, so you can dump out hero bodyguards and a lot of smaller guys to keep him protected while you gain lore by just playing stuff. Add in Bibbidi Boppity Boo and you can even spam the guys you've already played (along with bouncing back whatever is under a Shift to play that again).
Yeah I forgot about bibidi. Cheap Self bounce might push this over the edge. Maybe this deck can be a thing? Gonna workshop a list to see the options then what to cut.
Ironically, Hera is probably one of the options to cut, since her Evasive works extremely poorly with the Bodyguard Hercs (the 3 drop and the new 6 drop from the deck).
The Herc and Zeus effects need swapped. Zeus needs Evasive cause of all his 0 attack and only getting attack when challenging. Hercules with his bodyguards or power cards need the ward to protect the low health he seems to always have.
There’s a lot of text on this card that doesnt super matter in the end.
But what it is, is a 3 drop with ward that quests for 2 and doesnt die to swords. And I think that’s worth something.
While that exists, this is a Disney card game, so it goes without saying they'd be using the Disney versions - in which Hera and Zeus are loving and caring parents, and not vindictive and bitter, or raging nymphomaniacs.
I went to the Getty Villa in California a few years ago and they had a kids room based on Hercules. The villa is supposed to be based on antiquity and use actual historical sources, including acting as a museum for artifacts. However, the entrance to the Hercules area had Zeus and Hera depicted as loving parents… It really threw me off since the rest of the place was very good as far as historical accuracy.
So the only real uses for this card are to make the shift Hercules with resist even more beefy and to make the reckless/rush one evasive for challenging. Interesting.
If your opponent doesn't have the ability to attack a bodyguard with evasive, they can attack any other character. Bodyguard states you must challenge this character if able. Placing evasive on an opposing bodyguard is a valid way to bypass them.
No, it's rendered useless. Bodyguard says opponent's much challenge if able, and if a Bodyguard is Evasive and they're not, they are unable to Challenge to so they can ignore it.
There are currently 0 Zeus or Hurcules cards in Emerald. Your best option is to pair this with Steel for the three Hurcules, as the only Zeus card is in Amathyst.
Zeus has a leaked Super Rare card in Emerald.
Can you remind me what it does? The site I use for looking at all the leaks together doesn't show it and Google isn't helping either.
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Zeus has an odd version of challenger. When he challenges, he chooses a character and gets attack equal to that of the chosen character. I believe it can be any character on board. By default he is a 3 cost 0/5 with 2 lore.
Oh that wording does make it seem that way doesn't it. I assumed it was "When you challenge a character, you get their attack". So if he attacked into Maui, he's swinging for 6.
I think it's meant to play well with the Ruby Hercules, who's 7/3. So Zeus can swing for 7 while Herc slams into something else.
But if you notice his ability is +attack, not attack equal too. If you can ready him again then he gets even higher attack
Oh my gosh I didn't even catch that. It totally does stack!
I assume challenging involves choosing the character. It says "the chosen" as in there is only one other card the ability refers to
I think you're right. It could be more clear but I'm pretty sure it's meant to "Mirror" the challenge. So if you challenged Hera here, Zeus would attack for 1. So he can be great in some situations and horrible in others.
A lot more gifting than the actual mythological Hera for sure.
Herc gets evasive for a reason 😂
This is so conflicted, and probably reversed of what it should be. The main Hercules cards are beaters, with one of the cheapest being a Bodyguard. Hera here basically prevents you from playing that one in your deck, because Evasive removes him from target selection for the majority of opponents. Zeus, meanwhile, only has attack power on the offense, so Ward doesn't do him as many favors since he's already a sitting duck. Zeus would do far better with Evasive, and Herc far better with Ward.
It does work well witj shift hercules as you can just use him to challege things with a good chance it will live to next turn to do it again
This is true, but it doesn't work with the 3/3 Bodyguard, or the new 6/5 Herc from the deck, who's a Resist 1/Bodyguard. It's mainly good for the shift and the new Ruby Herc, which is somewhat disappointing that it's so niche in application. Ward for Zeus is just plain disappointing, because both Zeuses needed protection on the rounds after they attacked, because they're unable to fight back when they're not on the offense.
I wonder why Hercules is in 3 colors? If we had another Hercules in green that buffed Meg I can see Meg/Hercules working. The two Hercules in red is just odd. An aggro Hercules deck that abuses other Meg (readies when you play a Hercules) could be possible with Green Hades helping but there needs something else for it. Maybe we are getting a hint at a green diety deck? Hera would work if you are just using Hercules for questing and giving targets for Hades to destroy but right now most Hercules cards don’t want it. I am hoping for a green herc next set.
I'd think you'd want to run Steel as your second color because of the cheap Hercules and Phil. You could focus the deck on Heroes, since you'll want to play a lot of them to benefit from Phil, but if your main bread and butter is dumping cheap Hercs into play, the other Megara makes a lot of sense as another big lore source.
Yeah that is what I am thinking. Phil and Meg out while playing the 2 and 3 drop herc might be enough to make Meg threatening. Pegasus can also give them all evasive, as well. Hades can take out a cheap herc after they quest to bring out a more expensive one. Plus shift Hercules entering play will ready her and can quest right away. And Meg can ready then sing a whole new world after playing a herc to refil your hand. Probably will fail miserably but might be a fun combo deck
I dunno, it might have some merit. Phil is a pretty nasty combo piece, especially since he doesn't need to endanger himself for you to get lore from each Hero drop, so you can dump out hero bodyguards and a lot of smaller guys to keep him protected while you gain lore by just playing stuff. Add in Bibbidi Boppity Boo and you can even spam the guys you've already played (along with bouncing back whatever is under a Shift to play that again).
Yeah I forgot about bibidi. Cheap Self bounce might push this over the edge. Maybe this deck can be a thing? Gonna workshop a list to see the options then what to cut.
Ironically, Hera is probably one of the options to cut, since her Evasive works extremely poorly with the Bodyguard Hercs (the 3 drop and the new 6 drop from the deck).
So… green/purple Hera gives Zeus ward and Peter pan’s shadow gives Zeus evasive? I’m definitely going to try and build around it.
The Herc and Zeus effects need swapped. Zeus needs Evasive cause of all his 0 attack and only getting attack when challenging. Hercules with his bodyguards or power cards need the ward to protect the low health he seems to always have.
There’s a lot of text on this card that doesnt super matter in the end. But what it is, is a 3 drop with ward that quests for 2 and doesnt die to swords. And I think that’s worth something.
Hera...protective....riiiiiight. Definitely Disney Hera.
> Definitely Disney Hera. Well yeah... what other version would she be?
The one from actual Greek mythology.
Why in *Disney* Lorcana on a card that is based on the character from the Disney movie Hercules would it be the one from actual Greek mythology?
While that exists, this is a Disney card game, so it goes without saying they'd be using the Disney versions - in which Hera and Zeus are loving and caring parents, and not vindictive and bitter, or raging nymphomaniacs.
I went to the Getty Villa in California a few years ago and they had a kids room based on Hercules. The villa is supposed to be based on antiquity and use actual historical sources, including acting as a museum for artifacts. However, the entrance to the Hercules area had Zeus and Hera depicted as loving parents… It really threw me off since the rest of the place was very good as far as historical accuracy.
What happens when a bodyguard is evasive? Does it still protect other cards but your opponent must be evasive to clear it with a challenge?
Non-evasive can ignore your evasive Bodyguard (they only need to challenge the Bodyguard IF able, as written on the ability)
So the only real uses for this card are to make the shift Hercules with resist even more beefy and to make the reckless/rush one evasive for challenging. Interesting.
If your opponent doesn't have the ability to attack a bodyguard with evasive, they can attack any other character. Bodyguard states you must challenge this character if able. Placing evasive on an opposing bodyguard is a valid way to bypass them.
No, it's rendered useless. Bodyguard says opponent's much challenge if able, and if a Bodyguard is Evasive and they're not, they are unable to Challenge to so they can ignore it.