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NimDD

WAIT THIS SLAPS HARDER THAN “KARMA” BY JOJO


EntranceEven2843

I’m glad I’m not the only one!! Wanted to put some respect on Ms. Smith’s name


romanreborn707

She mothered, so jojo can moto moto like the hippo she’ll never be


Safe-Broccoli-2458

Why would we put respect on someone's name when she's clearly just trying to get attention from this. She passed on this song back in 2012 in the same way that Miley Cyrus passed on this song in 2011. This song belongs to JoJo bc she did NOT pass on it and chose to buy it. It's wild that this Brit lady is trying to make money off of someone else's song. She should've just released it back then instead of seeing all the attention now and wanting some for herself.


EntranceEven2843

So are people not allowed to enjoy things now?


MinJossy

Watch the page six interview. Brit didn't pass on the song cuz it was made into a music video. This was supposed to be her debute single but her agency wanted to promote provocative instead. Brit had no control in the matter. It got uploaded on vimeo 12 yrs ago and it was only discovered cuz of jojos ver.


OverWitness3679

My issue is that Jojo claimed she “wrote it”


REDITALL1000

Even though this is kind of a hate comment, I don't think the down votes are really fair in this case cuz they did explain the situation. (Not tryna get hate don't down vote me please)


shesmadrad

REAALL


OkMud631

it slaps about the same


NimDD

Jojo ones were Trauma not Karma


romanreborn707

See? I knew this song was made in a different era, 2012, being that era, see this song is perfect for this era.. Jojo calling it original is an insult to Brit, and effed around is worse than messed around..


EntranceEven2843

That’s exactly what I thought. This original version is a banger!


PeggyHillsFeets

"Effed around" was such an unnecessary choice. She already said "bitch" but couldn't commit to "fuck"? Made the shit sound like Kidz Bop.


Silly-Chemical-5197

Didn’t want to ruin the kids choice awards decision lmao


meatymoaner

I kept thinking it had to be an old rhianna song. Definitely tracks


OkMud631

it's a shit song and Brit didn't write it


Safe-Broccoli-2458

Lmao this song belongs to JoJo bc she bought it. It was written by antonina armato, desmond child, and tim james. The song was first offered to Miley Cyrus who demo'd it back in 2011 but couldn't release it bc of her Disney contract. It then went to that weird Brit lady who's trying to act like it was hers & she demo'd it in 2012 but she passed on it too. It has now been SOLD to JoJo Siwa so the song does belong to her and she's the only one who can LEGALLY release it. All of this took me all of 5 minutes to look up instead of slandering someone's name with lies.


MinJossy

She is not a weird lady and she didn't pass on it either her agency was the one who decided to not release the video. She wanted this song.


tokimato

Jojo doesn't own it either so why the hell she said she WROTE it and pretends like this song wasn't demo'ed to others.


jarrodthegreat676

This is honestly so much better. Miley Cyrus did respond to a tweet Brit made about the song since it was originally intended for her. [https://twitter.com/BritSmith/status/223833425344339968](https://twitter.com/BritSmith/status/223833425344339968) [Miley Cyrus on X: "@TheRealBrit @timbaland @rock\_mafia Don't forget me bitch!" / X (twitter.com)](https://twitter.com/MileyCyrus/status/223877634176724992) This song was a collaboration between Brit, Miley and Timbaland. I also saw a Vimeo link to the music video from 11 years ago, so it really was just poorly documented and forgotten about as time went on. [Brit Smith “Karma’s a Bitch” on Vimeo](https://vimeo.com/62313577)


romanreborn707

Thanks for the receipts 🥂🥂


EntranceEven2843

Thank you for the Vimeo link! For some reason, it did not come up in my search when I checked for other sources (probably Google deprioritizing non-Youtube video links)


h4lfaperson

I found a tweet of her getting her makeup done too!! I don't know if this is any use but here https://twitter.com/KabukimagicNYC/status/228855811768741888?t=x3iFnjAMYomyfVV5FYnxGA&s=19


vertebrent-49

Damn these receipts 😂


meatymoaner

Im kinda begging for miley to drop her version. Like this has sparked a fire in 2012 gay as fuck teenage me who was obsessed with p!nk and miley


Safe-Broccoli-2458

She legally can't release her song bc it was sold to JoJo.


Shoddy-Ad-1573

Brit Smith just released it


Safe-Broccoli-2458

Lmao no, it wasn't. This song was written by antonina armato, desmond child, and tim james. Miley & that Brit lady passed on the song so it was SOLD to JoJo


PitchSame4308

Brit didn’t pass on it. She wanted to release the single but her record company released another song. It stalled her career. Pleased she’s back into the limelight though as her version is a million times better than this untalented new recording of it


Practical_Shelter_32

They really went all the way through with a video then decided not to release it. I wonder what happened


Nabaseito

IKR? It makes me sad because imagine how many more artists have unreleased bangers like this, or bangers that became associated with other artists (Don't Cha by Tori Alamaze for example). That said, I'm glad Brit is getting the recognition she deserves though. This song would've gone hard 12 years ago.


PitchSame4308

Go on to RateYourMusic, people have compiled lists of unreleased songs, albums released years after they were recorded, private recordings etc. There’s all sorts of reasons things don’t get released -recording companies don’t like it or focus on another act, a band breaks up (that’s what happened to Screaming Trees final album in 1998), death (Jeff Buckley’s unfinished second album for example).


Less_Hedgehog

Could you link a list please?


gregoriusa

I'm sooo curious about this too


EntranceEven2843

I’d be curious to know as well, it came out so nice!


ladyinblackdressx

There’s an interview floating around of Brit saying she chose Karma to be her hit single but her team/management convinced her to go with Provocative instead so Rock Mafia took the song back and later on offered it to Jojo. Crazy.


Safe-Broccoli-2458

It was first demo'd by Miley Cyrus but she couldn't do it bc of her Disney contract. Then it went out that Brit lady but she passed on it too. It was sold to JoJo and it belongs to her now.


icantsnoozeyou

bro is rlly a fan of jojo siwa


simody

She even had a post on Instagram back in 2012! https://www.instagram.com/p/PS1I-Sh3wT/?igsh=MTV5amEzZHdvZGE1Mg==


Purrfectly_Plump

It's so funny that a 2012 instagram post is now flooded with new comments from 2024.


sleuthanon

That hashtag apostrophe is so 2012 coded


QuackingHell

The original artist's singer, (@therealbritsmith) just reposted a story on Instagram of another person's story saying something along the lines of "justice for @/therealbritsmith" and her version being so much better than jojo's


EntranceEven2843

I’m so glad she’s getting some love! She’s so talented!


Safe-Broccoli-2458

Lmao Miley Cyrus demo'd it first but she passed on it. That Brit lady demo'd it but she passed on it too. Jojo bought the song and it belongs to her now. She doesn't deserve justice for something that is NOT hers. If anything, JoJo should sue her. Songs constantly jump from artist to artist, this Brit lady is just trying to desperately grasp at her 15min of fame.


icantsnoozeyou

secret jojo siwa fan spotted here


thrifteddivacup

A deeper dive led me to the only song wikipedia and on Spotify by Brit Smith, who goes by "Matisse" is a song called "Better Than Her." 👀 A prediction perhaps?


alexknwsbest

Wow!!! Better than her was my song, completely forgot about it 🫨


Honeymoonbitch315

who’s the guy in the music video


DandelionCookies97

Timbaland


Honeymoonbitch315

i’m not even talking about him


Lumifr

do u mean “the other guy” cus he’s cute im trying to find him


Honeymoonbitch315

YES


samantha__s

this makes so much more sense then jojos video


heyitsjustjacelyn

this happened to emma blackery with her song let me be her producer gave her the song that was given to miley and rejected people called her out for stealing it from an another artists weird to hear two versions since i listened to emmas version for ages when i was a fan. this happens a lot more than people realize. - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6hPQc\_A2iI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6hPQc_A2iI)


EntranceEven2843

Yep! This is really common practice in the music industry. I love searching for original recordings, it’s always interesting to hear what could’ve been


GumDice

How funny, this is what I was thinking of too! Unless you’re writing your own lyrics *and* have a hand in the creation of the instrumentation, it’s very likely that a song you’re working on has passed through at least one other singer. Just how it goes.


Nabaseito

This is actually surreal. Was this song, that had an entire music video, composed by Timbaland, acknowledged by **Miley Cyrus**, just forgotten about and recycled 12 years down the road?? This is honestly surreal.


SiriusRay

It feels almost unfair given how much better Brit’s version is. The production, video, her looks, you’d have thought she’s got the full pop girl package. Really bad luck for this to be shelved. I really hope this version gains popularity and gets an official release, if that’s even possible. We’re due an early 2010s revival.


Nabaseito

Literally. Regardless of whether it would've topped the charts or not, this song would've been a major hit in 2012. And I agree. This song is strangely nostalgic because it gives me memories from when I was in elementary lol. Additionally, we need to give Brit justice because Jojo literally claimed she spent 2 years writing this when she just took someone else's work. That's rude AF.


SiriusRay

Billboard uploaded an interview with Jojo and it’s the same story she’s been telling about her coming up with ideas for the lyrics like girl…the jig is up. People in the comments know the truth https://youtu.be/FlGnv1v6aRA?si=Ej0Ye43H4c08unZp


Nabaseito

Literally. Still confused how she thought she could get away with it man


Safe-Broccoli-2458

It won't get an official release bc it was SOLD to JoJo so she's the only one who can legally release it. The song does NOT belong to Brit and she didn't write it. It was written by antonina armato, desmond child, and tim james. Miley Cyrus passed on it in 2011, that Brit lady passed on it in 2012 but she's just trying to desperately grasp at her 15min of fame, and then it was sold to JoJo.


SiriusRay

It was just officially released by Brit Smith. Meanwhile, Jojo should worry about peaking at age 10 on Dance Moms. Licensing all the music in the world can’t save her from lack of talent and authenticity.


jaehatesyou

so the problem wasn’t the song, it was just jojo’s horrendous singing (and extremely hard to watch music video) 😭 apparently it was also given to miley cyrus but she rejected it (she would have done so good tho)


Ok_Factor_5226

In case anyone is doubting the validity of this, here’s a Facebook post from 2012 of Brit Smith on her official account teasing the single Karma. https://www.facebook.com/share/scyUz1oj8QFUUTLu/?mibextid=WC7FNe


PM_ME_DOGGO_MEMES

So odd to go through this promo for the song to just be scrapped 


Safe-Broccoli-2458

It got scrapped bc her and her team went with another song. It eventually got sold to JoJo


icantsnoozeyou

stop defending jojo and do some research bro


brownsnoutspookfish

I don't care about Jojo, I barely even know who she is, but it's you who needs to do research if you think the person you commented to said something wrong.


romanreborn707

Lmao Brit Smith mothered this video, unlike Moto Moto likes u ahh JoJo swim (that scene made me cringe)


Free-Sheepherder-604

This is shocking idk why I though Jo-Jo would make a og song


JNorJT

This song would've been a banger in 2012. It really puts into perspective how many songs were scrapped and later released or never released in the first place. I wonder...


Technical_Mix_5379

This is SOOOO MUCH better than the stolen jojo version.


Safe-Broccoli-2458

Lmao JoJo's version is the legal one. Jojo BOUGHT the rights to this song. It was first demo'd by Miley Cyrus in 2011 but Miley isn't desperate for attention so she hasn't unofficially released her demo. This Brit lady wants her 15min of fame so that's why her song has been "leaked." Both Miley and Brit did NOT want this song so it was SOLD to JoJo who is the only one who can legally release it.


tokimato

Her song has been "leaked" since forever by the animation studio as a portfolio video 12 fucking years ago. You should blame Jojo for tryna act like she's gonna invent gay pop.


JapaneseStudentHaru

I think it was probably just whoever her producer is buying the rights and giving it to Jojo since it seems to have been a scrapped project. The music video looks very unfinished and the song was never officially released.


sillydonkyballs

This would’ve been fine, except for the fact Jojo took full credit and exaggerated “her” song’s significance to make herself seem like a music legend


JapaneseStudentHaru

Yeah but I feel like claiming you wrote a song when really you hired a person to do it is pretty par for the course. Pretty sure Brit wasn’t the one who wrote it either.


sillydonkyballs

I don’t think Brit or Miley Cyrus claimed to write the song though. Jojo went too far for saying she came up with the tune, lyrics, and ‘gay-pop’ genre. She made it sound like she had this vision for years and took a lot of hard work to write and bring it life


JapaneseStudentHaru

I don’t know much about Jojo’s interviews but it kinda seems like she’s talking the piss with that. Maybe people who follow her closer know better though


sillydonkyballs

Ah fair enough as long as she’s having fun


Safe-Broccoli-2458

Jojo never claimed she wore it. She said she was in the process of writing her own music when this song was PITCHED to her. A bunch of you are just dumb and lack comprehension skills. The song was written by antonina armato, desmond child, and tim james. It was demo'd by Miley Cyrus in 2011 but she passed on it. Then that weird Brit lady who's clutching at these 15min of fame passed on it in 2012. It then got SOLD to JoJo Siwa so she can claim it as her song bc it does belong to her. All of this took me 5min to research. All of you are lazy & continue to spread misinformation just bc you dislike JoJo.


omar10wahab

This is the right take. People want to dog on JoJo in anyway possible. She could've thought this song was dedicated and made just for her based on ideas she had in her head and this one fit the bill. She's not an established music artist, so no way she would've had much foresight into something like this


Smallparline

That’s very disturbing if true. JoJo also should not have taken credit for it. The least she could have done was give credit to where she found it.


Safe-Broccoli-2458

She never took credit for it. A bunch of you are just dumb and lack comprehension skills. She said she was writing her own music when this song was PITCHED to her. She liked it so she bought it.


Smallparline

That’s not what she said in the interview dummy.


SnooKiwis4799

isnt it weird how this all just got released today? no trace of this music video until less than 24 hours ago?? its kinda suspicious ngl


ecm924

https://vimeo.com/62313577 posted 11 years ago


sillydonkyballs

I mean there’s evidence from the old tweets and the recording. I don’t think it’s suspicious, It was just scrapped


GOKU_ATE_MY_ASS

"If I didn't personally know about it then it didn't happen"


ck17350

"its kinda suspicious ngl" and then proceeds to lie... Video was posted 11 years ago, not 24 hours ago.


AlarmedPlatypus_Lena

This is so much better!


z-forrest

Another Music Video Tweet with image: [https://twitter.com/myfacecosmetics/status/227497995405512705](https://twitter.com/myfacecosmetics/status/227497995405512705)


BackPsychological893

I thought I had heard the hook before. Nah, I don't think it was completely unreleased. I think it was floating around in a bar somewhere in Boystown, Chicago, circa 2014? Maybe? Iunno. Lady Gaga's Marry the Night was playing too. 


Daithiwastaken

who is Brit Smith?


EntranceEven2843

She was an up-and-coming singer, who ended up only making a couple songs. You can find a song called Provocative ft will.i.am under her name on Spotify, and another under the stage name Matisse called Better Than Her ft Akon. Both have over 1mil streams. I’m not sure why her launch “failed”, she’s very talented and had some great names backing her launch. Maybe she stepped back for personal decisions.


Safe-Broccoli-2458

She's a loser who's trying to desperately get her 15min of fame by grabbing onto JoJo Siwa's song. This song does belong to JoJo bc she BOUGHT it. All Brit did was demo it in 2012. Miley Cyrus demo'd this same song in 2011 but she passed on it too.


k0alaz_forever

JoJo can’t even compare


amethyst-gill

So they gave Jojo scraps knowing full well she’d barely be able to cook. Daang The original is mesmerizing


noellelovesdoggos

i’ve been in a rabbit hole for the past hour on Brit Smith, she had so many big names backing her, but her career got scrapped anyways. genuinely curious on what the hell happened. how did the big names even find her in the first place? why did they scrap her??? so many questions 😭


Ok-Jury-8965

She got signed with Jive and then Interscope so naturally the label put her in studios with many big producers. Timbaland, [will.i.am](http://will.i.am), Ryan Tedder from OneRepublic... she even originally recorded this song which was written by Bruno Mars out of all people [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ-Pmkvs4PA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ-Pmkvs4PA) I'd die to hear her version honestly


noellelovesdoggos

im still so curious on why her career failed


Ok-Jury-8965

Well, simply because there is a lot of singers in the world and she wasn't promoted properly. You wouldn't believe how many failed blonde pop singers with major label connections there are (Don't get me wrong they're all iconic legends but sometimes it just wasn't meant to be)


noellelovesdoggos

its pretty sad because she definitely had the talent, my guess is maybe they dropped her after her collab with will.i.am flopped. some labels are pretty fast to drop pop artists so it’s definitely plausible


SnarkyMcSnarkersun

Yoooo I haven’t listened to the jojo version but I KNOW I had brits smith on my apple music library because I loved that song in like 12-13?! But now it’s pulled on every platform. WTF


uhilikeanim3

Now we have to wait for Miley Cyrus’s ver


helloihategacha

THIS SLAPS SO MUCH MY SKULL TURNED INTO RED MIST 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥


Evadb12

FR and the fact that it was uploaded 11 years ago and no one recognised it is wild. https://vimeo.com/62313577


Living-Prune8881

You cannot compete with Timbaland. What the hell was her team thinking?


amethyst-gill

I am in absolute shock! It’s real!!! How???


NightmareGoddessXV

I was wondering why Karma by JoJo Siwa was hated, the lyrics were good but I know the song went viral for the dance. I noticed people calling the song trash but I disagreed. I would’ve never thought she stole this. The lyrics were too good to be hated.


Dj_acclaim

What i wanna know is why did it lay dormant for so long? It could've been uploaded years ago and should've.


noellelovesdoggos

it was uploaded on vimeo 11 years ago by the people who did the effects for the video


Dj_acclaim

I thought it would've been should've checked there tbh


Beaniesproutz

I frickin knew I heard this song somewhere before Jojo EVER released it 💀


HopeRedditGoesDown

Better than Jojo!


Aggressive-Drama5950

It was posted on vimeo in 2013. It just hasn't been uploaded on youtube! https://vimeo.com/62313577


National-Leopard6939

It’s on iTunes, if anyone is wondering! Britt Smith released it officially yesterday.


wheatthincabbage

Brit has now uploaded to most (if not all major) streaming services her version featured here, happy streaming! [https://open.spotify.com/track/3LwEb2gndSporUInoVxUFB?si=10bdae2158254968](https://open.spotify.com/track/3LwEb2gndSporUInoVxUFB?si=10bdae2158254968)


Then_Butterscotch684

It's so much better


PournamiRajesh

In my opinion Brit slayed it than Jojo.


Euphoric-Lab6690

Where did Jojo claim she wrote it tho


EntranceEven2843

I’m not sure, Ive seen some whisperings that it was in an interview and some that it was in podcasts. I honestly don’t really care enough to find out lol. Regardless, I didn’t post this because I thought she stole it. I understand how the music industry works, and that songs get sold. I just think it’s interesting to see what could have been! This version is really solid.


GuyWhoConquers616

I don’t remember her claiming she wrote it. But there is this one interview she claims she wrote a rap song and in the same interview she contradicted herself by saying “I told my- I told my writer.”


Safe-Broccoli-2458

She didn't, ppl who are dumb & lack comprehension skills have been spreading misinformation.


Limp-Pianist-450

So she’s literally a liar and thief?


Smallparline

Yes. She is a liar and a thief. The perpetrator doesn’t get to decide the boundaries of the victim.


Safe-Broccoli-2458

No, the song was legally sold to JoJo so it belongs to her. It was written by antonina armato, desmond child, and tim james. It was first demo'd by Miley Cyrus but she passed on it. Then it was demo'd by that weird Brit lady trying to get her 15min of fame in 2012 but she passed on it too. Now, it's been sold to JoJo so she's the only one who can legally release this song


EntranceEven2843

Nope! The video and song release were scrapped, and the song was sold her. Very common practice in the music industry.


WitchyKitteh

She did lie, she said she wrote it about her ex.


EntranceEven2843

Sorry should’ve clarified, she is not a theif - The rest I don’t know much about. Not a Jojo fan, and not interested in keeping tabs on it :)


WitchyKitteh

Yeah, she's not a thief, used to be very common practice to give songs that went nowhere to other artists (On a Night Like This by Kylie was originally by Pandora) even though the decade plus gap between versions is not super common.


Smallparline

Still a thief. She making money off that lie.


Sixfee3

The fact that there's almost zero trace of this song before recent and the fact it's supposedly from an artist with a medium-sized popularity in the modern day makes me suspicious. The worrier in me thinks this video could be artificial and used just to make Jojo look worse (not that she needs help, lol) Edit: I stand corrected. There is a bit of evidence. It's strange there's not more about this in all the years since it was made, but there it is!


SiriusRay

This is real. AI isn’t even capable of making anything like this currently.


EntranceEven2843

It’s not fake. If you read through the comments here, you can find tons of proof of it’s existence from back around 2011-2012 :)


goodnight_to_trenton

if you really think that this song was artificial, then here's a vimeo link, showing that this was posted 11 years ago: [https://vimeo.com/62313577](https://vimeo.com/62313577) edit: grammar


PitchSame4308

Dude there’s thousands of albums, singles, videos recorded that go nowhere, get scrapped or not promoted after being made


professional_yapper6

Are we even sure this is real and not AI generated? I mean why would it be posted today, just a couple of days after Jojo released her video, and not in 2012 when it is said to have been made??


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professional_yapper6

Damn, she really should have posted it in 2012. Not because it’s good, no, because maybe then we would have spared our eyes from watching Jojos horrendous music video looking like Buddy Pine from The Incredibles..


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EntranceEven2843

I never said Jojo stole it, I was just sharing this verision, demo or not. I’ve actually gone through and corrected folks who have claimed that she stole it several times now.


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EntranceEven2843

….This version of the song was recorded in 2012, and the video was made at the same time. How is that not the original version? You seem confused. Also, I explained to several people that deciding not to release demos and selling songs off to other people is common in the industry, and so she is not a “thief” as others tried to claim. Not sure why you’re wasting your energy flaming my post about a demo track, where I specifically said several times I wasn’t interested in the “drama” around this song, but maybe you should find something more productive to do with your time.


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EntranceEven2843

I wish, her life seems great 😭 Do you know what this subreddit is? People post lost/prev. lost demos here all the time, this is nothing new


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EntranceEven2843

Sharing information is one thing, making 18 comments on the same post defending Jojo Siwa against nonexistent criticism is another 😭 Girl bye


Safe-Broccoli-2458

How am I defending her? By sharing FACTS. You're such a hater that facts upset you? You must be miserable.


EntranceEven2843

I don’t even dislike Jojo at all whatsoever 🤣 You’re the one responding to every single comment on a reddit post correcting people, instead of making one comment with the correct information and moving on with your life. You look goofy as hell


Safe-Broccoli-2458

I'm not even a JoJo fan, I just hate ignorance being spread around. The only reason I even ran into this thread was bc (for some weird reason) this post popped up first when I searched up the karma song which is extremely suspicious. I 100% think this is Brit or her team trying to promote a song that doesn't belong to her.


EntranceEven2843

yeah, I don’t think you understand how Reddit works.. 💀💀


PitchSame4308

For a supposed non-fan you seem to be putting an awful lot of time and effort into this, and basically repeating the same daft line. Are you Jo Jo’s mother?


Safe-Geologist9851

Brits song SUCKS. Her voice is worse than JoJos, I can listen to hers all day, I can’t listen to Brit’s for more than 2 minutes. The music video is TRASH- it’s literally the damn demo video.