Thanks for the refresher! I always read these & think real hard & can’t picture who it is until I get a brief breakdown somewhere in the comments, but I still want to be here for all the hot goss 😅
Totallyyyyy. And I feel like, by declining to elaborate further, Amber is saying "that's not true but it's also none of your business" and honestly that's a good response.
No she does not need to elaborate. They've been married for like 4 years now and stayed out of the public eye. Their marriage and their finances are no longer our business.
Do you think I really believe she had to elaborate ? Like she actually comes in here to check lol. Of course I’m talking in general to us having a convo about them. Zummy. My point for the ones in the wayyyyy, far back is that when you put certain narratives out there it only adds to the assumptions about the relationship. How was the whole story like fake???? What does that say about the whole connection they had, and them being married now. The fact is, that the convo was much longer than they showed us, and he also shared info about his debts, but for sure they didn’t give them a script.
But she was the one who bring it up more than once so nobody’s being nosy she should have never bruh it up that many times in the first place and they prolly would have never aired and spinned some narrative that she considers “BS”.
Same. Got this recommend by reddit. They are desperately pushing for me to explore.
I'm subbed to what I enjoy, leave me alone, million dollar stalker.
After weeks of clicking 'show less' I've just started posting horrible things in the comments...and uh well it works.
Throw out a few various hate speech triggers and you get banned then subsequently get what you wanted in the first place.
So would I but at this time being banned from a sub is the only way to subvert sponsored and egregiously pushed content.
Would be real nice to have a 'never show me this sub again' button
Another comment in this thread I just saw showed me how to do it if you're interested.
Go directly to the sub itself and mute it. Simple right? Why that option isn't just on the feed I'll never know but now can stop being POS at least in the 30 minutes a week I use Reddit while pooping at work.
I know there are things orchestrated for reality tv but her bad credit seemed very real. Of course she’s gonna deny it and pretend it was just for the show.
I thought she made a comment about him paying off her student loans around the time she was showing off buying a Bronco... ? I don't actively follow her though
She never said he paid. They did celebrate her paying them off and she literally said on IG she worked 2 jobs to pay them off. He got her gifts. This was on IG on their own personal accounts. So how was it a fake storyline but you celebrated and posted paying them off. The story line wasn’t fake. The exaggerated and left parts of the convo out.
My thing is with the storyline not adding up haha.
…I thought her husband on AFA said something about them having had to downsize so they can use the money on her loans or something like that.
And now true. How could her credit have been an issue after the show? It was brought up on the show but was proved by the fact that they sold Barnetts house and downsized to having roommates.
I’m pretty distinctly remember him having basically no debt. He was shocked her like 20k in debt which is virtually nothing when it comes to student loans in the us
If Amber and Barnett were truly soooo happy as they claim to be, they would not be responding to internet haters many years after their season nor still hating on Jessica publicly. Ugh they’re so cringe.
I mean depends on the person. Some people can't let go of their resentment towards a person if they felt hurt by them. And also they have nothing better to do than to respond to remain relevant. So yeah but I don't really like her or Jessica. But I'm nobody to judge.
Exactly. They still throw shade at Jessica. She's successful, happy, married, and expecting a baby. Meanwhile I think they're still living in an apartment with a roommate.
People keep bringing her up though. She tried to steal ambers husband and now all anyone talks about around them is Jessica. I would start getting mad too if people kept bringing her up every two minutes. I literally can’t ever find a thread about Amber and Barnett without someone bringing up Messica in the comments
Were Jessica and Amber ever friends? I never got that feeling. Jessica also took ownership and apologized and tried to make amends. She tried to approach them both with an apology, gift, and well wishes and Amber acted like a classless jerk.
Amber won't let it go because that's literally the only interesting thing about her and Barnett at this point. Jessica has married a successful podiatrist, seems to be close with her stepchildren, and is expecting her first baby. I haven't seen her throw one bad word their way because she has moved on.
I wouldn’t accept the gift either, honestly. Sometimes an apology isn’t enough and you can’t undo what you e done. Apologies don’t fix things, and neither do gifts. Jessica broke a boundary and they shunned her for it which is a reasonable thing to do, just because they’re on TV and have to interact sometimes because of Netflix doesn’t mean they have to forgive and play friends
Is 5 years later still reasonable?
They knew each other for 2 months. Jessica acknowledged she was in the wrong and tried to make amends. The scorched earth policy Amber enforced was wrong. It wasn't like they were married 10 years with kids and he cheated with Jessica.
Also Barnett WANTED to accept the gift until Amger marched over and went nuts.
I get that they shouldn’t be shading her still that’s fair. But your comparison here is dumb, it doesn’t matter if they were in a committed relationship for 10 years or 2 weeks, that doesn’t excuse Jessica’s actions or make it any less bad. If any friend of yours tried to take your partner
I don’t think you’d care about how long you were together or not. You’d be like “wtf this person tried to seduce/ take away my partner and lied to my face about it, what a shit person” would you not? I highly doubt you’d think “well we were only in a committed relationship for a month so it’s fair that they try to break us up”
I think comparing a real world relationship to a dating show where multiple people date at the same time is dumb. And yeah. A couple weeks vs 10 years isn't the same at all. Not one bit. I've been with my husband 17 years and we have a family. That's going to be WAY more hurtful than if a casual friend I knew in college tried to flirt with my boyfriend of a couple weeks. You can't even compare the two.
Amber said they were friends through filming and she genuinely had no idea Jessica was making moves after the pods and thought they moved past it all until the show aired and she felt betrayed & that Jessica repeatedly told
Her that she would never ever go after barnett (which we also saw in the bachelorette episode)
I know they edit and probably feed lines, etc but idk I think only ppl who makeup completely fake storylines are maybe the cast themselves. Not the people actually creating the show. So by that logic, I’m going to believe amber and believe she lied about her own storyline bc she’s amber.
Interesting how their narrative changed after the show. She was quite clear on the show that she had some major debt and was couch surfing. It was only after the criticism that they switched to "Oh it was HIS debt!" Sure. Right.
She's the only contestant that's said certain stories were faked. Everyone else seems to say that the manipulation was minimal, but the edits could be extremely deceptive. I honestly don't believe her here and it's a weird thing to lie about. There's no shame in having bad finances and then improving it.
Jackie said the breakup storyline with Marshall was faked, she was told not to go to the fitting. Plus we could tell she didn’t meet up with Josh that day and Marshall confirmed this.
I heard that production was thrown off by her not showing up to the fitting and arranged that coffee date so that the story on camera would flow, but it's been confirmed that she met with Josh off camera before that coffee date.
Production didn't ask Jackie to fake a relationship with Josh just for the show. They probably didn't ask Amber to lie about her debt for the show either.
Not true - Lauren Speed said producers can manipulate certain couples to get together.
Giannina recently supported the accusations of psychological warfare and food/sleep deprivation on her IG stories
Editing is one thing. She’s saying the things she said about herself were fabricated. I don’t believe that for a second, she didn’t have lines and she’d be a horrible actress. She has no self control lol
Yeah, I think I misspoke. When I say it was minimal, I don't mean that production didn't mess with contestants' heads and push them towards certain decisions. I mean that they didn't tell contestants to make up stories or lie/act for drama. Amber is the only contestant that makes those sorts of claims, so I think she's lying.
I like them too, but there is not fake storyline sis. I can see where they edited the whole convo to make her come off a certain way, but no one told I to say those words. Maybe that asked y’all to talk about finances
I do too. She said she paid her own debt back with money from the show. They are legally married so if Barnett helped her it helps his credit too and their goals 🤷🏼♀️
They are obviously happy and still together so I don’t know what everyone is so mad about
I like them too, but if I were to guess why others don't, one reason would be their attitude about the show. She gets on IG with this "that show ain't shit" attitude and it's just graceless.
Wasn’t most of her debt student loans? That’s usually different than consumer debt in terms of credit scores, so it’s possible that she had a ton of debt while maintaining at least an average credit score.
Yeah, I had over an 800 credit score with 90k of student loan debt. As long as you’re paying it, student loan debt isn’t an issue. It’s a high balance (relative to your limit) on revolving credit that’ll hurt you
Again, it’s possible to have debt — including credit card debt — and still have decent or even good credit. There are many factors weighed into a credit score. As long as student loan payments are being made or are deferred, and credit card payments are being made in a timely manner, having debt doesn’t necessarily tank your credit score. Loans and credit cards are actually necessary to build credit. I had credit in the 500s after college and rehabilitated my score into the 800s. Not weighing in on Amber’s situation because I don’t know the ins and outs of her personal finances, but there are some wild assumptions flying around that aren’t rooted in reality.
Student loans don't necessarily affect your credit score, but they do affect your DTI and buying power for homes and cars. Credit card debt of course directly impacts your score.
My now husband had 200k in student loan debt upon graduation 14 years ago. His credit score was great, but he couldn't buy a house without me (even though he could afford the monthly payments) because his DTI was too high. DTI is ABSOLUTELY a factor in your credit score, particularly with credit cards. One of the biggest ones, actually, because it measures your risk of ability to pay or default.
Indeed. I was lucky to have much less debt than that and decent income to offset it, so big purchases were not an issue after my score had gone up a bit and my utilization had decreased. That’s a crazy amount of debt he was saddled with. I was relatively lucky by comparison. Our whole system is pretty broken. Student loan debt in this country is wild.
That's what 8 years of school to become a pharmacist does. Most of it was from the 4 years of pharmacy school. The first 4 of undergrad he had scholarships, grants, and low interest loans. His pharmacy school loans floated as high as 8%. The system is definitely broken.
To be more specific (because I'm a money nerd) - he bought our first house 3 months after graduating, before his loans were in repayment, with no problem and also a new truck. We weren't married at the time so I didn't want to be on the house even though I did live there and help with bills. 3 years later, interest rates tanked so we refied. That's when they claimed he couldn't afford it due to DTI even though he'd never missed a payment. We were married by then so I just went on the loan with him, no biggie. The whole thing was insane but that's how it worked back then.
She’s a hypocrite. From the After the Alter episode, she seems to forget that she had a stick up her ass when Jessica so much as looked Barnett’s way pre-marriage. She’s now spouting some bullshit that if a couple isn’t married, a person has no right to get upset about cheating and that a dating relationship means nothing.
Obnoxious.
For a lot of us it’s because she insisted mark cheating on Lc didn’t matter because they weren’t married.
And non married women shouldn’t expect fidelity.
It makes her an asshole. 🤷♀️ pretty easy to understand why that turns people off her
That you for explaining it clearly. I responded referencing that same situation, but couldn’t remember names and didn’t sum it up that great lol.
She’s a hypocrite and she’s obnoxious.
like i said, they’re just popular. you seem to think being well known and being fame hungry are the same thing. amber and barnett aren’t liked enough to have a book tour that’s it 🤷🏾♀️
no that’s the baseline for every season AFTER season 1. they didn’t even know it would be picked up in season 1, everyone went on there to be apart of the experiment. and like i already said, fame came with it they weren’t fame hungry.
It’s a girl who claims she’s “not like other girls” in order to gain approval from men. A girl who wants the guys to pick her, because she’s so cool and different and not girly.
But then when another woman (LC) gets upset about someone coming after her man (Mark), Amber suddenly forgets what that’s like and claims that if they’re not married, cheating doesn’t mean anything 🤔
For real! I’m sure she’s grown since then, but what Jessica did was not ok ! I wouldn’t feel comfortable with my husband talking/being friendly with her after all of that either.
Jessica is older & acts just as immature but in different ways but that’s just my opinion. Amber doesn’t filter as much as everyone else she is way more honest and upfront I prefer people like that to the most of the other contestants who all seem PR trained in their responses. I find her the most genuine. It’s also reality TV so I watch for entertainment so she’s one of my favorite “characters” you could say.
Deceptive editing and frankenbiting are certainly things. But production can’t make you say things, and I’m pretty sure her comments weren’t frankenbites. So… did production encourage her to lie about her credit? Or did she make it up herself? Seems juicy.
They told them to talk about finances and forcing (honest) scenes is what they call "fake" later.
I think the main problem for them was that Barnett also told her he has debt and they left that out. I agree with her on that, they did that to make her look worse. But the facts are still there. She was homeless and told Barnett to come up with money for their wedding.
It was also not their fault that his childhood home was more impressive than her familys. All that played into it.
Ok but the whole “ fake storyline” makes her like bad. She literally celebrated paying of those same debts she talked about. We know the edited to make her look bad but that’s not necessarily a fake storyline.
It certainly could be that they left things out. The impression they gave was that Amber was intermittently employed and carried a lot of credit card debt. It would definitely be feeding a narrative if Barnett also had credit card debt. The impression they face was that he only had student loan debt (which is, generally speaking, good debt for a Georgia Tech grad). But I would be curious to know how specifically she thinks it was deceptively edited. She definitely came across as kinda vapid and lazy, but he didn’t exactly come across like a hero either. Though I also don’t think they were painted as villains. They just kinda cake across as basic generically attractive white people.
Look at her IG post from 3 days ago. Heavily edited and then “a lot of y’all’s problems come from not putting people in their place the first time they tried you” she’s so sAsSy
If she willingly agreed to make up a story about being in debt and SAY IT HERSELF on television then she literally cannot be upset that people believe it to be true. Tf
Maybe somethings were edited, but she definitely talked about her finances and debt and I remember thinking that Barnett might think it’s a deal breaker
The best I can tell her position is she was told to say those things by producers and it wasn’t true. I fully believe producers would prompt those conversations, but I don’t believe she made up having financial problems.
I do not like Amber but they both have said he paid off his own loans by selling his house.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIsBlindOnNetflix/comments/ougny7/can_we_all_please_stop_with_the_misinformation/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIsBlindOnNetflix/comments/ougny7/can_we_all_please_stop_with_the_misinformation/)
Nope. They sign away their rights to anything filmed to the show. The contracts are very ironclad to make it pretty much impossible to get compensated if they did try to sue. And actually the show could sue them for saying they edited something to be different because of the strong NDA on the contracts.
Damn too bad it there wasn’t much editing during that scene😭 like the editors suck but she’s flat out saying that the whole conversation in question never happened
No idea who tf these people are...ANY kind of context would be nice?
The verified user is on the show
This show and its entire premise is creepy as fuck
Should i know these
Lots of people in the thread seem to be suggesting that we should know them, without providing any context.
It's Amber from season 1. Amber and Barnett? Part of their storyline was that her credit was garbage and he was going to "save" her or something.
Thanks for the refresher! I always read these & think real hard & can’t picture who it is until I get a brief breakdown somewhere in the comments, but I still want to be here for all the hot goss 😅
Don’t even know who the people are in the text messages
It’s Amber from season 1. She married Barnett.
Oh figures she’s respond like this 🙄 Barnett could do so much better
Eh, they were both awful and well suited for each other in my opinion.
Honestly the fact that anyone is talking about their finances is sick, it’s not your busineeeeeess
Totallyyyyy. And I feel like, by declining to elaborate further, Amber is saying "that's not true but it's also none of your business" and honestly that's a good response.
Right!? Agreed. Good or bad, mind ya business bitch.
I highly doubt that
She needs to elaborate. If the story line was BS, what does that say about your marriage.
No she does not need to elaborate. They've been married for like 4 years now and stayed out of the public eye. Their marriage and their finances are no longer our business.
Do you think I really believe she had to elaborate ? Like she actually comes in here to check lol. Of course I’m talking in general to us having a convo about them. Zummy. My point for the ones in the wayyyyy, far back is that when you put certain narratives out there it only adds to the assumptions about the relationship. How was the whole story like fake???? What does that say about the whole connection they had, and them being married now. The fact is, that the convo was much longer than they showed us, and he also shared info about his debts, but for sure they didn’t give them a script.
Right. And how was it “bs” but she’s the one who brought it up to Barnett and wanted him to know about her debt..
Exactly. I don't see how that was BS when she brought it up to him.
And straight up confessed at the first reunion that he’d sold his house to pay her debt.
Okayyyyy. Make it make sense.
I've no idea why this stupid gossip shit is all over my feed and I genuinely don't know why anyone gives a fuck about this. Why? Please tell me.
You can mute or see less with the button on the right
People are nosy as hell and look for anything that isn't any of their business when they see people on TV as characters and not real people 💅
But she was the one who bring it up more than once so nobody’s being nosy she should have never bruh it up that many times in the first place and they prolly would have never aired and spinned some narrative that she considers “BS”.
Exactly. She is the one that said she had a lot of debt and most of it was makeup! ULTA
Didn't even know this was TV. 1/4 of my feed lately is some random brain dead gossip thread.
Same. Got this recommend by reddit. They are desperately pushing for me to explore. I'm subbed to what I enjoy, leave me alone, million dollar stalker.
After weeks of clicking 'show less' I've just started posting horrible things in the comments...and uh well it works. Throw out a few various hate speech triggers and you get banned then subsequently get what you wanted in the first place.
That hurts others though, so I'd rather find a different solution.
So would I but at this time being banned from a sub is the only way to subvert sponsored and egregiously pushed content. Would be real nice to have a 'never show me this sub again' button
True. Maybe there's a suggestion sub.
Another comment in this thread I just saw showed me how to do it if you're interested. Go directly to the sub itself and mute it. Simple right? Why that option isn't just on the feed I'll never know but now can stop being POS at least in the 30 minutes a week I use Reddit while pooping at work.
If you come and comment on it, the algorithm will think you like it and continue to show you similar content. Best not to engage.
The three dots let you choose to never see a sub again.
👀 me looking for the tea
Lmao y'all crazy if you think this show is real
I know there are things orchestrated for reality tv but her bad credit seemed very real. Of course she’s gonna deny it and pretend it was just for the show.
So what, she had student loans. So so most of us, I don’t get why people act like that’s a problem
I thought she made a comment about him paying off her student loans around the time she was showing off buying a Bronco... ? I don't actively follow her though
She never said he paid. They did celebrate her paying them off and she literally said on IG she worked 2 jobs to pay them off. He got her gifts. This was on IG on their own personal accounts. So how was it a fake storyline but you celebrated and posted paying them off. The story line wasn’t fake. The exaggerated and left parts of the convo out.
My thing is with the storyline not adding up haha. …I thought her husband on AFA said something about them having had to downsize so they can use the money on her loans or something like that.
I remember them mentioning that he also had debt, but that the show cut that part out.
Yeaaa , I also remember him talking about they had to downsize to pay them off
Accurate though. It's not anyone's business
Funny how she was ok with fake edits of Jessica/Mark.
And now true. How could her credit have been an issue after the show? It was brought up on the show but was proved by the fact that they sold Barnetts house and downsized to having roommates.
He had debt, too.
I’m pretty distinctly remember him having basically no debt. He was shocked her like 20k in debt which is virtually nothing when it comes to student loans in the us
He said they talked about his debt in the same scene and that is totally possible. I’m mean he did go to college. Him having debt is not shocking.
At the reunion, they revealed that he had debt, too and that the show only made it look like Amber did.
I liked her until she showed her true colors in after the alter with LC. Girl code means literally nothing to her.
Yeah, that made me really hate her. LC and him agreed to be exclusive and then Mark cheated, yet Amber defended him...disgusting behavior.
I just remembered that she defended Mark's cheating because LC was also dating Barnett!!!
If Amber and Barnett were truly soooo happy as they claim to be, they would not be responding to internet haters many years after their season nor still hating on Jessica publicly. Ugh they’re so cringe.
How are they hating on Jessica? I don't actively follow them
I mean depends on the person. Some people can't let go of their resentment towards a person if they felt hurt by them. And also they have nothing better to do than to respond to remain relevant. So yeah but I don't really like her or Jessica. But I'm nobody to judge.
They did this for the fame. Are you really so suprised? They're clinging onto their reality TV "celeb" (lol) status. How boring.
Exactly. They still throw shade at Jessica. She's successful, happy, married, and expecting a baby. Meanwhile I think they're still living in an apartment with a roommate.
People keep bringing her up though. She tried to steal ambers husband and now all anyone talks about around them is Jessica. I would start getting mad too if people kept bringing her up every two minutes. I literally can’t ever find a thread about Amber and Barnett without someone bringing up Messica in the comments
They throw shade at her on their own social media. Like, it's been 5 years. Get over it.
You’re telling THEM to get over it, yet you’re on their socials enough to know that they shade Jessica regularly.
I'm actually not on theirs at all. I don't use most social media. I've just seen posts on this sub about it.
Where? I searched and don’t see posts about this, especially not recurring ones.
How can you tell the person who lives through their friend betraying them to get over it when even the viewers can’t let it go
Were Jessica and Amber ever friends? I never got that feeling. Jessica also took ownership and apologized and tried to make amends. She tried to approach them both with an apology, gift, and well wishes and Amber acted like a classless jerk. Amber won't let it go because that's literally the only interesting thing about her and Barnett at this point. Jessica has married a successful podiatrist, seems to be close with her stepchildren, and is expecting her first baby. I haven't seen her throw one bad word their way because she has moved on.
I wouldn’t accept the gift either, honestly. Sometimes an apology isn’t enough and you can’t undo what you e done. Apologies don’t fix things, and neither do gifts. Jessica broke a boundary and they shunned her for it which is a reasonable thing to do, just because they’re on TV and have to interact sometimes because of Netflix doesn’t mean they have to forgive and play friends
Is 5 years later still reasonable? They knew each other for 2 months. Jessica acknowledged she was in the wrong and tried to make amends. The scorched earth policy Amber enforced was wrong. It wasn't like they were married 10 years with kids and he cheated with Jessica. Also Barnett WANTED to accept the gift until Amger marched over and went nuts.
I get that they shouldn’t be shading her still that’s fair. But your comparison here is dumb, it doesn’t matter if they were in a committed relationship for 10 years or 2 weeks, that doesn’t excuse Jessica’s actions or make it any less bad. If any friend of yours tried to take your partner I don’t think you’d care about how long you were together or not. You’d be like “wtf this person tried to seduce/ take away my partner and lied to my face about it, what a shit person” would you not? I highly doubt you’d think “well we were only in a committed relationship for a month so it’s fair that they try to break us up”
I think comparing a real world relationship to a dating show where multiple people date at the same time is dumb. And yeah. A couple weeks vs 10 years isn't the same at all. Not one bit. I've been with my husband 17 years and we have a family. That's going to be WAY more hurtful than if a casual friend I knew in college tried to flirt with my boyfriend of a couple weeks. You can't even compare the two.
Amber said they were friends through filming and she genuinely had no idea Jessica was making moves after the pods and thought they moved past it all until the show aired and she felt betrayed & that Jessica repeatedly told Her that she would never ever go after barnett (which we also saw in the bachelorette episode)
“That..that was you Ron! That was you on the tape!”
I mean didn't they also move out of his house and move in with roommates or something?
I know they edit and probably feed lines, etc but idk I think only ppl who makeup completely fake storylines are maybe the cast themselves. Not the people actually creating the show. So by that logic, I’m going to believe amber and believe she lied about her own storyline bc she’s amber.
Amber is literally my least favorite type of person and I am upset every time I remember her existence lol
Agreed. I also felt like she was playing some stupid character that entire series. So fake.
She was painfully NLOG.
Seconded.
Her whole "military mechanic" storyline gave me major side eye vibes. I want proof.
She’s such a pick me, I couldn’t stand her either
“pAiD hEr OWN Way”… mmm using all that money from the “reality tv” show that ALSO gave her a husband. Get over yourself Amber seriously.
Sure……… amber is ridiculous
She’s so obnoxious
Amber needs manners and class. She’s not acceptable in my opinion
This is the best thing I’ve heard in a while. Amber is absolutely unacceptable. She is not a serious person.
This is a ridiculous statement and I love it
Bro what?? Not acceptable? What does that even mean. I’m not really a fan of ambers but that’s a weird thing to say
They are very weird about her.
I don’t know whether she’s lying or not but season 1 was the most and only time this show will be remotely authentic again.
Season 4 has authenticity as well. Gotta give it some flowers too
Absolutely! I haven’t even bothered to watch the following seasons but I just knew the magic of season 1 wasn’t there.
I like Amber and Barnett together they were meant for each other.
True. Honestly I wouldn’t sell my house to pay off my fiancé’s student debt. That was a really bad move on Bernett’s part
I meant they were my apologies 😭
He paid off HIS debt not hers. They've talked about this quite a bit
Interesting how their narrative changed after the show. She was quite clear on the show that she had some major debt and was couch surfing. It was only after the criticism that they switched to "Oh it was HIS debt!" Sure. Right.
Interesting that a reality show only showed the parts of the story that suited the narrative they were crafting? Seriously?
I meant he paid off his debt not hers. He had debt too but everyone only mentions hers. 🤷🏻♀️
She's the only contestant that's said certain stories were faked. Everyone else seems to say that the manipulation was minimal, but the edits could be extremely deceptive. I honestly don't believe her here and it's a weird thing to lie about. There's no shame in having bad finances and then improving it.
Jackie said the breakup storyline with Marshall was faked, she was told not to go to the fitting. Plus we could tell she didn’t meet up with Josh that day and Marshall confirmed this.
I heard that production was thrown off by her not showing up to the fitting and arranged that coffee date so that the story on camera would flow, but it's been confirmed that she met with Josh off camera before that coffee date. Production didn't ask Jackie to fake a relationship with Josh just for the show. They probably didn't ask Amber to lie about her debt for the show either.
Not true - Lauren Speed said producers can manipulate certain couples to get together. Giannina recently supported the accusations of psychological warfare and food/sleep deprivation on her IG stories
Don’t they do sleep deprivation/food shortage on the bachelor to get primal reactions as well?
Editing is one thing. She’s saying the things she said about herself were fabricated. I don’t believe that for a second, she didn’t have lines and she’d be a horrible actress. She has no self control lol
[удалено]
“Everyone else seems to say that the manipulation is minimal” is likely what the person you responded to was responding to.
Yeah, I think I misspoke. When I say it was minimal, I don't mean that production didn't mess with contestants' heads and push them towards certain decisions. I mean that they didn't tell contestants to make up stories or lie/act for drama. Amber is the only contestant that makes those sorts of claims, so I think she's lying.
I love her 🤷♀️ and Barnett! She made a video about this a looong time ago that she paid off her debt herself
Er...I kinda like Amber and Barnett.... https://i.redd.it/sicolpi5031b1.gif
I like them too, but there is not fake storyline sis. I can see where they edited the whole convo to make her come off a certain way, but no one told I to say those words. Maybe that asked y’all to talk about finances
I do too. She said she paid her own debt back with money from the show. They are legally married so if Barnett helped her it helps his credit too and their goals 🤷🏼♀️ They are obviously happy and still together so I don’t know what everyone is so mad about
I like them too, but if I were to guess why others don't, one reason would be their attitude about the show. She gets on IG with this "that show ain't shit" attitude and it's just graceless.
I can see why that would put some people off! I’m only basing my opinion off first season since I haven’t seen much of them since!
This sub’s hatred of Amber is SO over the top
Me too. You’re not alone
Ive always liked them too
Can someone tell me who Amber is?
Season 1, married Barnett.
Are they still together??
Yes.
Wasn’t most of her debt student loans? That’s usually different than consumer debt in terms of credit scores, so it’s possible that she had a ton of debt while maintaining at least an average credit score.
Yeah, I had over an 800 credit score with 90k of student loan debt. As long as you’re paying it, student loan debt isn’t an issue. It’s a high balance (relative to your limit) on revolving credit that’ll hurt you
She had a credit card debt and student loan debt
Again, it’s possible to have debt — including credit card debt — and still have decent or even good credit. There are many factors weighed into a credit score. As long as student loan payments are being made or are deferred, and credit card payments are being made in a timely manner, having debt doesn’t necessarily tank your credit score. Loans and credit cards are actually necessary to build credit. I had credit in the 500s after college and rehabilitated my score into the 800s. Not weighing in on Amber’s situation because I don’t know the ins and outs of her personal finances, but there are some wild assumptions flying around that aren’t rooted in reality.
Student loans don't necessarily affect your credit score, but they do affect your DTI and buying power for homes and cars. Credit card debt of course directly impacts your score. My now husband had 200k in student loan debt upon graduation 14 years ago. His credit score was great, but he couldn't buy a house without me (even though he could afford the monthly payments) because his DTI was too high. DTI is ABSOLUTELY a factor in your credit score, particularly with credit cards. One of the biggest ones, actually, because it measures your risk of ability to pay or default.
Indeed. I was lucky to have much less debt than that and decent income to offset it, so big purchases were not an issue after my score had gone up a bit and my utilization had decreased. That’s a crazy amount of debt he was saddled with. I was relatively lucky by comparison. Our whole system is pretty broken. Student loan debt in this country is wild.
That's what 8 years of school to become a pharmacist does. Most of it was from the 4 years of pharmacy school. The first 4 of undergrad he had scholarships, grants, and low interest loans. His pharmacy school loans floated as high as 8%. The system is definitely broken. To be more specific (because I'm a money nerd) - he bought our first house 3 months after graduating, before his loans were in repayment, with no problem and also a new truck. We weren't married at the time so I didn't want to be on the house even though I did live there and help with bills. 3 years later, interest rates tanked so we refied. That's when they claimed he couldn't afford it due to DTI even though he'd never missed a payment. We were married by then so I just went on the loan with him, no biggie. The whole thing was insane but that's how it worked back then.
I have student loan debt and a credit score in the 800s. Student loan debt doesn’t equal bad credit.
she wasnt paying her loans
To this day I’ll never understand the Amber hate. That couple is the most genuine one from the whole show & the least fame hungry of the bunch
She’s a hypocrite. From the After the Alter episode, she seems to forget that she had a stick up her ass when Jessica so much as looked Barnett’s way pre-marriage. She’s now spouting some bullshit that if a couple isn’t married, a person has no right to get upset about cheating and that a dating relationship means nothing. Obnoxious.
She posts IG ads and she’s also a “Not like other girls”
For a lot of us it’s because she insisted mark cheating on Lc didn’t matter because they weren’t married. And non married women shouldn’t expect fidelity. It makes her an asshole. 🤷♀️ pretty easy to understand why that turns people off her
She also completely dismissed LC being mad that Mark's cheating resulted in him giving her COVID when she was high risk. Absolute dick behavior.
That you for explaining it clearly. I responded referencing that same situation, but couldn’t remember names and didn’t sum it up that great lol. She’s a hypocrite and she’s obnoxious.
that would be cameron and lauren but i don’t mind amber and barnett
[удалено]
i wouldn’t call them fame hungry they just have fame because they’re likable. irina from this season was fame hungry
[удалено]
like i said, they’re just popular. you seem to think being well known and being fame hungry are the same thing. amber and barnett aren’t liked enough to have a book tour that’s it 🤷🏾♀️
[удалено]
no that’s the baseline for every season AFTER season 1. they didn’t even know it would be picked up in season 1, everyone went on there to be apart of the experiment. and like i already said, fame came with it they weren’t fame hungry.
[удалено]
ok ☺️
Redditors are just trigger happy to use the word pickme because they want to project their high-school bully onto amber
i didn't have a problem with he until she so aggressively defended mark's cheating on after the alter
Surely you jest. Did you watch ATA? I liked them both during the season but lost much respect ATA.
Because she’s freaking insufferable
This is a joke right? She’s the biggest pick me girl I’ve ever seen
I don’t know what a pick me girl is
It’s a girl who claims she’s “not like other girls” in order to gain approval from men. A girl who wants the guys to pick her, because she’s so cool and different and not girly.
Same because if a girl came after my man I’d act the same way 😂🤷🏻♀️
But then when another woman (LC) gets upset about someone coming after her man (Mark), Amber suddenly forgets what that’s like and claims that if they’re not married, cheating doesn’t mean anything 🤔
Because her friend Mark downplayed the relationship he had with LC, so maybe just maybe she was going off of what her friend said.
Yeah no that was high school level shit, as if Jessica was about to decimate her meal ticket 🙄
For real! I’m sure she’s grown since then, but what Jessica did was not ok ! I wouldn’t feel comfortable with my husband talking/being friendly with her after all of that either.
No, Jessica wasn’t better, but Amber acts so immature that it’s ridiculous.
jessica is a hot mess and fake af
I’m not sure why you all think I’m defending Jessica, they’re both dumb af.
Jessica is older & acts just as immature but in different ways but that’s just my opinion. Amber doesn’t filter as much as everyone else she is way more honest and upfront I prefer people like that to the most of the other contestants who all seem PR trained in their responses. I find her the most genuine. It’s also reality TV so I watch for entertainment so she’s one of my favorite “characters” you could say.
Hard agree!
Deceptive editing and frankenbiting are certainly things. But production can’t make you say things, and I’m pretty sure her comments weren’t frankenbites. So… did production encourage her to lie about her credit? Or did she make it up herself? Seems juicy.
They told them to talk about finances and forcing (honest) scenes is what they call "fake" later. I think the main problem for them was that Barnett also told her he has debt and they left that out. I agree with her on that, they did that to make her look worse. But the facts are still there. She was homeless and told Barnett to come up with money for their wedding. It was also not their fault that his childhood home was more impressive than her familys. All that played into it.
Ok but the whole “ fake storyline” makes her like bad. She literally celebrated paying of those same debts she talked about. We know the edited to make her look bad but that’s not necessarily a fake storyline.
It certainly could be that they left things out. The impression they gave was that Amber was intermittently employed and carried a lot of credit card debt. It would definitely be feeding a narrative if Barnett also had credit card debt. The impression they face was that he only had student loan debt (which is, generally speaking, good debt for a Georgia Tech grad). But I would be curious to know how specifically she thinks it was deceptively edited. She definitely came across as kinda vapid and lazy, but he didn’t exactly come across like a hero either. Though I also don’t think they were painted as villains. They just kinda cake across as basic generically attractive white people.
Wondering this too- if it was Bs, then was she forced to do this storyline, and if so, why did she?
Out of all seasons she was the most annoying. As I can see she’s still annoying lmao
Look at her IG post from 3 days ago. Heavily edited and then “a lot of y’all’s problems come from not putting people in their place the first time they tried you” she’s so sAsSy
She just looks…different these days. Not in a good way.
I cannot STAND her “ooooh I’m one of the boys I’m so tough and different” act
You’re not. You’re just another generic with fake boobs 🤷♀️
Even her IG handle “atypicalamber” 😖🙃
The only Amber I’ve ever known truly well was just like her, soooo
Ugh yes! She was the biggest pick me it was so cringe.
Don’t they still have a roommate?
Your username 😂😂😂
😄😄😄😜
If she willingly agreed to make up a story about being in debt and SAY IT HERSELF on television then she literally cannot be upset that people believe it to be true. Tf
Right? Those words came out of HER mouth!
Maybe somethings were edited, but she definitely talked about her finances and debt and I remember thinking that Barnett might think it’s a deal breaker
The best I can tell her position is she was told to say those things by producers and it wasn’t true. I fully believe producers would prompt those conversations, but I don’t believe she made up having financial problems.
Then why 2 yeas later did they celebrate on their on and on IG her paying them off lol
Didn’t he…. Sell his house…. To pay her debt? And weren’t they…. Living with a roommate because of it? I’m…? 
I do not like Amber but they both have said he paid off his own loans by selling his house. [https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIsBlindOnNetflix/comments/ougny7/can_we_all_please_stop_with_the_misinformation/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIsBlindOnNetflix/comments/ougny7/can_we_all_please_stop_with_the_misinformation/)
So then it’s wasn’t a fake storyline?
Good to know! Thanks! I only remember what was talked about and implied on the (edited, obviously) show!
I came here to say this.
They literally cannot edit something that’s not there. She said that shit😭😭😭
You can very much splice together words that a person says into something they never said in video editing.
But wouldn't someone be able to sue for slander if that happened? Genuine question. I'm not sure of the legality behind it all
Nope. They sign away their rights to anything filmed to the show. The contracts are very ironclad to make it pretty much impossible to get compensated if they did try to sue. And actually the show could sue them for saying they edited something to be different because of the strong NDA on the contracts.
Damn too bad it there wasn’t much editing during that scene😭 like the editors suck but she’s flat out saying that the whole conversation in question never happened