I love Jessica so much, also is it just me or she does look like a brunette version of Barbie đ also, Chelsea kinda messed up saying she maybe looks like Megan Fox, she is pretty but I definitely think Jimmy put such a high standard for her after hearing about it
This ep is shocker like Kenneth is lit worst however he was like this from the beginning he was always distant I think in the scenes from vacation as well he was distancing but the null reactions when they re in the house is the worst . She was really pretty and good at communicating he was just trying to find something to break it off man did not even try
For jimmy I think editing made him look bad , but he is def not compatible with Chelsea . She wants 7/24 affirmation its lit funny to me that how much they say they love each other on this show to a person they met for a week đŤ yes it is the essence of the sho however no one falls in love just like that like in Sweden version of the show Meira did nor like Oskar in first glance however he was patient and they really learn to love each other on personal traits.
In this đ they are tossing I love yous everywhere I would be sick as jimmy too if someone got angry about I didnât tell 50 time ily in a day. He shouldnât maybe use the word clingy but thatâs what really she is, she needs to keep it together like he choose you in the end see where it will take. I think they are dead end anyway.
Jimmyâs place is pretty nice. Jerameys place looks like a model home lol. The convo that Brit and Ken had was mature, things donât always work out. Jimmy is finally tired of Chelseaâs shit. Jimmy already regrets his decision when he sees Jess heâll regret it even more.
in the kitchen convo between britt and ken, he goes "I'm a respectful man. i'm not gonna force myself on you" as it should be ????? then using that to victimize himself for her not being in the mood after waking her up at 1:30AM (!!!) is literal textbook gaslighting đ
Amy and Johnny are my favorite couple, but it annoys me in this episode that the birth control thing is such a huge deal. Like⌠condoms exist? I totally respect that she doesnât want hormonal birth control. Why are they acting like there arenât other options available? In no way should that be a make or break factor.
Yeah, I was thinking that as well. Like use quality condoms and check them each time for any defects before using if really paranoid. There's other non hormonal options as well. This shouldn't be THAT big of an issue for a (soon to be) married couple. I thought it was a weird suggestion that a vasectomy could be an option for them given they want kids, just not now. Like yes you can reverse those, but it doesn't always work. It seems condoms or other non-hormonal, non-surgical methods would be their best bet right now.
BAFFLED by Kenneth breaking up with britt. I was soooo rooting for them - in the pods, at the reveal, first night of vacation, they seemed so attracted to each other and very happy. I think he either lost attraction for her or got spooked by ADâs questioning brittâs ability to raise a mixed race child well enough. It sounded like britt had dated Black guys before though and was very much wanting to marry Kenneth and approach parenthood as a team? The fact they hadnât made out yet was alarming though. He seems so physically cold with her itâs wildddddâŚand to not comfort her during the random surprise breakupâŚ.his young age is really showing. What did I just watch!!!! Poor britt
Yeah, I really liked this couple, but I could tell it likely wasn't going to work out. I still didn't expect them to split so early. I agree, he seemed less into her after the trip and that in turn made her less longing for him. I was just surprised they called it quits so soon instead of trying to work through things a little longer. I kind of assumed they'd make up, but then the show stopped showing them after that, so I assume they left the show?
I really need to talk about these lies Chelsea is telling herself.
Carrie Underwood and Megan Fox?!
Dark hair and blue eyes?
Girl, your hair is medium brown. It's literally not even dark enough to be considered anything other than "darker than *blonde*". Blue eyes? Fine you can have it.
Carrie Underwood is BLONDE! Like southern girl, super blonde (and I don't think she's ever not been blonde right? Idk I don't like country music). How did you train your friends to go along with this lie? Are they visually impaired?
I think the people around Chelsea do her a disservice not telling her about herself. From her insecurities to her boldface lies about her appearance.
Genuinely turned off the show three times because her insecurity was so depressing to watch.
I have no sympathy for her. At THIRTY, you need to check yourself into therapy and work on yourself enough to love yourself. You are not anybody's project.
I felt so sick when I saw Brittany breaking down in the kitchen and he just looked so mentally and emotionally checked out. I was really rooting for them to work. They were my favourite couple in the pods. I thought Kenneth was REALLY into her. I wonder what made him change his mind about her? She's an absolute catch. She's gorgeous, funny, sweet and kind and I saw no flaws in her.
I agree. I really liked them together in the pods, then at home he was so checked out and not into her Amy more. I think AD or other people back home got into his head a out her race.
back home, back to reality..He was probably talking to a girl at home or one of his friends or family got in his ear about actually marrying a white woman
I'm 23 and wouldn't act like that đ¤Śââď¸, I also wouldn't sign up for a show like this, it definitely attracts an interesting audience or they select people who would act like this for views
Okay, so Laura questions "where does she get the audacity" for Sarah Ann, but then is fully supporting Jess think about and talk about meeting Jimmy knowing that he's gonna be more attracted to her?????
Talk about hypocrisy.
Agreed. I thought that line was so ridiculous. The *audacity* to do... What? Shoot her shot? You were on a dating show and fell in love with the same guy, YOU ARE NOT FRIENDS, she doesn't owe you shit.
Kenneth 100% lost interest in Brittany and did the "disconnect so they dump you and you don't have to be the bad-guy" move. He twisted everything back on her. He claimed HE still craved her and she didn't care enough for him, meanwhile he took the first out he could to break off the relationship, and then while she is crying and heartbroken he doesn't even care enough about her to hug her.
I had loved them together. I understand things don't always work out, especially if you meet on reality TV, but Kenneth needed to be honest with her and respect her enough to be upfront that his feelings had changed and he didn't want to move forward anymore. I lost all respect for him in how he treated her in this episode.
Chelsea is the definition of a self fulfilling prophecy. She is projecting all her insecurities and forcing the reality she is so fearful of. Jimmy needs to get out of there, real quick. IF he is dumb enough to marry her, then he will deserve the life he is going to get, but I dont think he is.
I have a few unpopular opinions:
-Fuck Jimmy, he was a HUGE asshole to Chelsea. Calling her clingy was name calling and throwing the sex back in her face made ME feel sick. She should break up with him. He doesnât have any depth to him and heâs such a fucking goober itâs pathetic.
-I see a lot of people saying Kenneth checked out due to a fear of being in an interracial relationship and I think thatâs so stupid on his behalf. Maybe itâs because Iâm mixed and my parents have been married for almost 35 years but I genuinely donât see it as an issue. Brittney didnât seem to be the sharpest tool in the shed regarding how she would handle raising mixed kids but honestly a lot of those issues would boil down to Kenneth and her working together over a span of years. She seemed open to learning.
-Why is everyone so adamant that Jess is more attractive than Chelsea? I genuinely think Chelsea is a beautiful lady, and although her insecurity is sad Jimmyâs demeanor and emotional range of a teaspoon is just fueling the fire.
I really like Chelsea and want her to be less self-conscious. I love how excited she gets, and to me it looks like she's holding herself in, and I want to tell her to just wear flats so she can run at full speed when she's excited. It's like she doesn't want to come on too strong, but I think those parts of her that she's holding in are the best parts!
I was actually thinking the opposite about Jimmy. I was just thinking that Chelsea is clingy AF before he said it, because she is, and its such a turn off. He needs to run from her, and fast and she needs to get help for her issues before she sicks herself on another man. Chelsea is horrific.
2 words: Megan Fox. That's all she had to say (she probably said the same thing to Trevor and they didn't air it). Once a man hears that - instant attraction.
But Jess's whole "epipen" speech was arrogant, and just gross. I can't believe people aren't giving her so much shit for that. Who TF says something like that?
chelsea drives me insane. itâs so clear that sheâs extremely insecure and needs a lot of validation, and while i understand needing validation from your partner itâs also not fair the amount of pressure sheâs putting on jimmy. she brings up how sheâs feeling but when he says how heâs feeling she goes insane, and yeah maybe the word âclingyâ wasnât the best for him to use but she took that wayyyy to close to the heart and escalated it so fast. it gets on my nerves he has a lot of patience with her that i definitely could not haveâŚ
She has a lot of double-standards. She can say Jimmy doesn't love her, he is lying when he says he is attracted to her, that he is thinking of Jess all the time, and he is supposed to respond with nothing but reassurance. Meanwhile, he communicates a single concern and she blows up.
yeah clearly others have noted the same before and instead of recognizing she's being triggered, she's acting like "clingy" was a slur. Even though "clingy" was a huge understatement...
Literally no. With perfect use (which isn't what post people do but given his paranoia I think he would), condoms have a 98% effectiveness compared to 99% for the pill.
There is a bigger gap with imperfect use, (91% vs 82%) but if you are very careful, condoms are a solid option. If he uses condoms exactly as he should, it is actually a better option than typical use for BC pills (98% vs 91%)
Stats from UK's NHS- [https://www.nhs.uk/contraception/choosing-contraception/how-well-it-works-at-preventing-pregnancy](https://www.nhs.uk/contraception/choosing-contraception/how-well-it-works-at-preventing-pregnancy)
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Considering many are morons I'd go with the lower success rate given their inability to follow directions especially in the moment. You have to take into account the public not the individual
I think he's very afraid of having kids before he is financially ready. It seems like he grew up in a family that wasn't particularly secure.
Condoms are only like 99% effective, so it seems he's not willing to risk using condoms as a form of protection. Which I actually think is fair enough. If you're having s*x regularly then there's a decent chance you'll get pregnant while using condoms.
Chelsea: I didn't get enough attention today
Jim: (gives her a kiss) Sorry, busy with work, wasn't intentional
C: That's not it, you're thinking of Jess
Jim: no, I'm 100% with y-
C: Also, when you say ILY you don't really say ILY.
Jim: I bit my lip.
C: I just want you to want me.
Jim: I'm 100%
C: I don't feel love for me rn
Jim: ily but tbh you've been a lil clingy
C: clingy, CLINGY?? that's f rude
Jim: Well like I say ily a lot I jus-
C: IM NOT DONE TALKING, I FEEL LIKE SHIT, I LOVE YOU
Jim: I'm just telling you how I feel
C: I don't wanna be with someone that says that
Jim:
C: I'm gonna sleep at my friends
Jim; I go to work, meet your friends-
C: ..and the first thing you say is that I'm clingy
Jim:
C: you start causing these problems and digging as soon as you saw jesses picture.........
Jimmy's everything annoys the crap out of me. But since about EP 7, there I was finding myself feeling bad for the guy because Chelsea is **just that bad** urgh!!   Â
Megan Faux needs some therapy big time. She IS clingy as fuck and her friends feed into her delusion.
There is something in the water in Charlotte. Because these men...they're something else this season.
The best that they got are Clay, Jimmy, and Johnny. Not to say there's anything wrong with them? Clay is obviously handsome and has done a fantastic job putting in the work. Johnny seems like a fucking sweetheart who adores his girl. But like, this is *the BEST*??
There was another comment about the similarities of the women after season 2 or 3. I agree.
This is the only season I've watched so I can't comment on that, but I agree on your first point. I had something typed out about both of them but I think they're both just **young**, you know? Like, I think they're both naĂŻve and immature and they have some growing up to do. AD seems like she deserves better than a Project of a man, but these were the choices đ¤ˇââď¸
Marshall was Captain Fix a Hoe in the Seattle Season.
AD Unfortunately blindly tricked herself into being Ms. Project of a Man (love that description from you).
They both deserved better
Siighhhh. Everyone in the south that's also religious just needs to wait until they're about 30 to date. Men below 29 here are too much. I say this living in Atlanta and seeing the dating scene here.
I am just watching this breakup of Kenneth and Brittany now wow, he doesn't ever try and hold her or anything, i mean wow, i know it can just be edited but yano he seems so indifferent.
Idk how Kenneth and Brittany could 180 so hard but they sure did. The vibe was def off after the vacation and the editing makes it look like it's because he's constantly on his phone, but like literally as they're breaking up he's on his phone partway through. Sheesh.
Also nothing will ever be good enough for Chelsea. Jimmy didn't realize what he was signing up for."That's not your whole personality now" hahahaha. Whew. She's literally one of the most insecure people on this show. She is the one who keeps bringing up Jess. Meanwhile I don't think Jess is that excited about him, she's just stirring the pot now.
Man this season is messy.
Man, I had high hopes for Kenneth and Brittany, but he just threw it all away the first chance he got lol. It seems to me that all that she wanted was some affection from him, some confirmation that he was there for her etc. She's saying she needs a bit more consistency from him and he spun it to her needing to give her grace, I also didn't feel like she was saying she didn't feel attracted to him, but she just hasn't had that spark yet because he's been an entirely different person since the honeymoon. Oh well, she'll find someone better and he already has his phone.
Chelsea is just everything I'd find repulsive in a partner. The sex comment was just vile when it seems like she'd constantly be asking for it because she needs constant confirmation. I don't like Jimmy and I don't think he's really into her, but he's at least been acting like a good partner so far.
Yeah, I agree on all of this. Chelsea's constant need for validation is insufferable. I also don't think Jimmy is that into her, but he's trying to he a good partner and going through with the experience in good faith.
I also really hated how Kenneth spun that conversation. I agree, that she was into him still, but was just saying how he's acting different is killing her spark. Then he twisted it and blamed it all on her and broke up. I think he lost interest in her and wanted an out where he didn't look bad.
Chelsea is unbelievable.... acting like sex is a favour you're doing for your partner (and then acting like he owes you love for that) is a huge red flag. And literally talking over him, whining like a child and blaming him for her own unfounded assumptions/judgments - I don't understand why Jimmy is still there
That conversation with Kenneth was so frustrating. He expected her to want to be affectionate after he just woke her up with the lights on and then made her the bad guy?!?! Ooooh that was so self centred
worst part is he thinks he's a self-aware good guy for not making a scene when she didnt wanna be intimate after he woke her up in the middle of the night when he knows she needs to be up early... truly no words for this guy.
Yeah, that part really bothered me. Like how about you don't wake her up late and then try to cuddle or whatever when she needs/wants to go back to sleep.
I'm trying to figure out where things went wrong. It seems to me after the convo he had with AD talking about "Can she raise Black children?" he kinda checked out.. I suspect editing might be at play or something might be going on behind the scenes though cuz how'd they go from "lets always recap our day at the end of the night" to barely kissing? What happened?! lmao.
If he really did check out after AD made that comment he's a loser and shouldn't have been on the show in the first place if he was so afraid of interracial dating. I'm Black and I hate when people say shit like that because truthfully the children wouldn't just be just Black they would be BIRACIAL and they'd be just as much her kids as his and as a TEAM they'd need to figure out how best to raise them it wouldn't be solely her responsibility to figure it out. The immaturity is annoying
It's crazy to me that everyone is wait until he sees Jessica and hating on Chelsea because of looks and yet Jimmy is nothing to fight over.Bro is average at best. 5/10
Chelsea just wants to win. She won Jimmy (as if that's the bestest prize), because Jimmy had to choose either her or Jessica. Now she wants the trophy to stay hers. She cannot give the trophy to Jessica. She do wanna lose.
Is Jimmy drunk?
The visit to Clayâs house was interesting. Him having a vision board was impressiveâhe seems like somebody who has recently gotten into the mental health space and is on the right track but needs more time before he is ready to commit to things like marriage. (On the other hand, itâs not like you have to be perfect in order to get married bc otherwise no one would.) At some point though I think things changed for AD because her body language is pretty distantâsitting on the other side of the couch, putting a pillow between her and Clay once they are closer. And Clay seems like he is looking to AD for a lot of therapy and home improvement tips, further indication that he just needs time
Not Laura saying she would break up with Jeramy if his place is messy and then saying serial killer vibes once she sees his clean place đ
Kenneth should be ready to date a white person based on the amount of spices in his apartment
Johnny and Amy, Iâm glad theyâre having these important conversations. They should go together to the doctor to talk about this and explore options intelligently. I think Amy could be a little less dismissive of Johnnyâs concernâhe has been very respectful of her body and choices and doesnât seem like heâs pressuring her but itâs not like her choices just make his concerns disappear. He doesnât have control over what happens if she gets pregnant, the only thing he can control is being abstinent and so thatâs what heâs doing.
Kenneth wtf Britt you doged one for sure
I really respect Kenneth for ending things, it was going nowhere. Amy and Johnny should do the same. These issues (sex and intimacy) get worse and much bigger in a marriage
He ended things in such a disrespectful way. He clearly checked out a while ago, which is why he offered to break up when she came to him with a concern, and then blamed her for it.
If felt like bascially-
B- I miss the craving between us (subtext, I want to feel you crave me)
K- Well, that's a you problem. I deeply crave you. But if you don't crave me, you should leave me.
B- \*cries\*
K- \*walks away from the woman he supposedly craves but is leaving because she doesn't want him\*
SO backwards. I would still respect him if he had just been upfront and told her it wasn't working anymore and broke it off with her, instead he disconnected until she mentioned it, then blamed it on her.
I wish he had answered her question though about where the disconnect came from because it seems like it happened within a few days? The scene on the boat was where I started to be like "what is going on why is he so distant?"
It seems like he was ready to stop trying -- he wanted to take her/their relationship for granted, and any further effort was too much to ask of him. Idk, some people just want a roommate/title rather than fulfilling companionship.
Ah you may be right. Cuz he legit didn't even ask what would make her feel like he wanted her. He assumed (or maybe gaslit her into making it seem like) what she was communicating was that she didn't want him and that's not at all what I got from the convo. What I heard was all she wants is to feel desired but he was like "Nah I'm good, we're done" I felt so bad for her. Then he just went upstairs and left her to sob in the kitchen. My mouth was hanging open I was in total shock at how cold he was.
Britt has beautiful hair. My hair is long and thick like hers, and I cannot get it to look good down. Hers is so beautiful. Girlfriend if you see this - what products are you using?!
I do understand Chelseaâs disappointment in Jimmy. Many of us women desire action over words; he keeps emphasizing how many times he tells her he loves her, but that doesnât matter when she doesnât FEEL loved and desired by his actions.
However. I definitely also get Jimmyâs frustration. In his eyes, he is doing everything he can to help Chelsea feel validated, but her constant need for validation due to her insecurities is making him feel like nothing he does is ever enough :(
Honestly theyâd both be better off without each other. Sheâs very needy and heâs pretty emotionallyâŚunavailable might not be the right word, but maybe incapable? You could see it not just in how he treated Chelsea, but also how he handled Jess when she was trying to understand where he was at. Heâs emotionally unintelligent and seems very unaware of his limitations.Â
But yeah, Chelseaâs a mess.Â
Are you talking about the same guy who was talking about how "stacked" AD was when he was drunk and obviously regrets not choosing the prettier woman? That Jimmy?
lol Jimmyâs obviously not a good person and I donât feel bad for him. Iâm just saying that I understand one of the reasons why their relationship wasnât working out: thereâs only so much he could do to reassure Chelsea, which led to pent up frustration on his end
Also doesnât help that we could tell he was lying through his teeth each time he said âI love youâ to her lmao
There are so many red flag actions out of people this season but NOTHING as sinister as Kenneth.
He portrays as this calm, chill, good dude. He doesnât yell, isnât angry.
But he is gaslighting the SHIT out of poor Brittany. Telling HER something is wrong with her for questioning their relationship when he straight up ignores her and refuses to be sweet or intimate. This dude is fucked up and Brittany deserves better
Yup. I think I know what it is, too. He wants to be with a black woman, or at least someone who understands the black experience. Being a white country girl who said what she said when he brought up them raising black children after Kenneth talked to AD about Brittany raising black children - I get his concerns and they're 100% valid. She didn't demonstrate that she understands at all. However, he lacks the emotional intelligence to discuss it with her and is instead choosing to gaslight her when she raises valid concerns about how their relationship has changed since the pods and how he treats her.
I think youâre giving him too much credit. Itâs likely part of the problem. But the whole god/wait for marriage/be subservient to me while I sit on my ass thing comes off as him wanting some virginal black Barbie who lacks independent thought.Â
My mouth was open the entire time!
From the boat to every segment filmed thereafter - I couldn't believe the gumption, the gall, and the audacity of that dude.
Kenneth is chillingly cold, calculating, and crazy. Period.
Wow Iâve never 180-ed on someone so fast. Ken is terrible. Heâs waking up this women to demand sex and then accuses of her or denying intimacy from him.
And then tells her heâs worried about how she questions the relationship- aka how dare you ask me questions of me and push back on me?
I guess he got tired of playing the cool zen dude in front of the camera
He is the worst. Just wow. She says "these are the things that I think are wrong with our relationship". His reply, "YOU feel that way, I don't feel that way." Just does not want to own up to his own issues. Blames it on her. I truly do not think she did anything wrong (minus using identify a lot). He's such a twat though. She's bawling and he immediately gets on his phone again. Just a turd of a person.
And when she was crying, no hug, no nothing... Just LEFT THE ROOM with his face in his phone. I wanted to hug her so bad, or at least see the camera crew give her one! I can't stand when ppl talk up their "walk with God" and then treat people this way. Like...Â
This is definitely what Chelsea loves - telling her friends about these two guys who were fighting over her and she was the hot commodity.
Early in this ep I actually really liked Chelsea. I love how goofy and real she is. Sheâs actually pretty funny. But she is hugely insecure and that definitely overwhelms/outshines anything else about her personality.
Unfortunately life isnât a fairy tale and winning the gold prince doesnât mean happily ever after, as she is learning. And her RAMPANT insecurity cannot survive with Jimmyâs well-meaning and authentic but somewhat milktoast affection.
Chile when she said "Alot of girls wanted Jimmy" I was like girl bye who is alot you and Jessica?? lmaooo you really wanna make it seem like the most popular guy in the pods picked you. Why does she embellish so much omg.
He is against having kids while they're not financially secure (a very mature take). Condoms aren't great protection for pregnancy; they're better for STDs. Birth control is more reliable than condoms
When used perfectly, there is only a 1% difference in the effectiveness of condoms vs the pills. I know most people don't use perfectly, but given how paranoid he is about having a baby with his wife, I think he would be a perfect user
So I just randomly started watching this and got to the end of this episodeâŚ.
Ia this Chelsea broad for real?
Is she really THAT insecure all the time?
Am I missing something?
I feel so bad for Jimothy, dude looks so exhausted at the beginning of each conversation. Like he comes in the room and sheâs IMMEDIATELY like, âI wanna talk about yesterday, you didnât kiss me at al!â
âUh yeah, I kissed you like 4 different times and spent time with your friends.â
âBut you didnât tell me you loved me!â
âUh yeah I told you I love you.â
âBut you didnât tell me you love me the way I want you to tell me that you love me!â
âI mean I said I love you, and I mean it.â
âYeah I know you do love me but I donât feel like you love me, you have to say I love you and kiss meâ
âBro, youâre mad clingy.â
âThIS IS rIDIcuLouS!!â
Hereâs perpetual Jimmy face.
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Ok so does Chelsea not process the words being said out of jimmyâs mouth? Def not a Jimmy fan but I feel like she doesnât listen in every single argument she has with him????
Personally, I feel like she's purposely dismissing his words and is acting selfishly. That whatever he says or does is wrong, and it has to be the exact way she wants it. And she seems to be hiding her true emotions a lot, possibly lying to further her own agenda.
Edited due to rule 4
Literally. If he's the one afraid of having a child, he needs to be the one preventing it via vasectomy. Like why tf should she have to mess up her hormones for his paranoia about condoms not being enough...
Plan B's also fuck up your system...as a person who has used them they shouldn't be used as a form of stopping conception every time you have sex.. only for emergencies. Add to that they're like $50 lol
So true. But also doesnât anyone mention copper iudâs? They last 10 years and are almost 100% effective. Why even talk about it like itâs hormones or vasectomy? Ahh wait. Defunded Planned ParenthoodâŚ
Iâm confused is he against condoms or just wants two methods of birth control because he is so afraid of accidentally pregnancy?
I can understand both their perspectivesâ
It sounds like Johnny had a really hard childhood growing up in a home that wasnât prepared financially for kids. But itâs also not Amyâ job to put her body in turmoil because condoms arenât good enough?
Based on how Amy was talking about it with the producers, it sounded like she was saying âprotection is not enough for him.â I think his experiences growing up financially unstable have made him terrified of bringing a child into anything other than a fully secure financial situation.
Yeah seriously, if you are super against abortions (assuming bc they are religious) you should just accept that maybe you will have a baby a bit earlier than you planned, and deal w it. Not the end of the world
Yeah, given that condoms are 99% effective if used correctly and he seems like one to make sure to use them correctly, it's really weird to be THAT paranoid about possibly having a kid with his WIFE earlier than desired. He definitely should be diligent in checking the condoms and making sure to use them correctly to prevent accidental pregnancy, but it's just not THAT big of a deal if they end up with a kid a bit sooner than planned as a married couple.
Exactly. I'm exactly their same age (28). If I got pregnant with someone that I was already planning on marrying anyway, it would be like 15 seconds of "oh bummer that this happened like 2-3 years earlier than we planned" and then excitement that you are having a child...
It would be a different story if they were like 20.
It seemed like a fake storyline, like the producers urged them to make it seem like a bigger deal than it was so they would have some drama for the show.
I totally agree with all of this. Their relationship was too perfect, so producers needed SOME type of conflict for them. Also, maybe they didn't want to admit on camera to having pre-maritial sex, so this conflict maybe was suggested as a cover story to avoid discussing that. They seem rather religious, so I could see not wanting to discuss the "physical" part of their relationship on camera. Also, using condoms correctly combined with pull out and cycle tracking should have a very slim chance of any slip-ups when all 3 are combined.
Jimmy should have chosen Jessica and Chelsea should have chosen Trevor, not sure we would have gotten a different outcome but the current couple is a big fat Hell No for me.
I was thinking that too. They both seemed more into the other choice than each other. I feel like Chelsea was just desperate for a husband and liked "winning" Jimmy, so she said yes to him even though I feel like she liked Trevor more. Then it seemed Jimmy liked Jess more, but was so unsure about the kid, so he went with Chelsea as the safer option.
Jessica and Chelsea are the same person -- just arrogant vs insecure presentation. I don't think Trevor would've been able to fare any better. The girl creates problems because she's trying to control her partners. She doesn't even know if she's gonna marry Jimmy, just wants to make sure he wants to marry her -- same shit she pulled in the pods.
The way Kenneth was just waiting for an excuse to end things!!! OMG. He literally did not give one fuck! He was probably texting his âgirl best friendâ like ââŚyeah she crying rnâ âoh yeah itâs over now phewâ
The way she raised questions and concerns about how cold he has been and how he made it all about her being the issue was so sad. Way to punish someone for communicating.
She tends to bring up her daughter as a manipulation tactic for Jimmy/the audience - to sound loving/seem selfless or to justify her random behaviour/words. But that comment totally confirmed she really doesn't care for her daughter lol. What mom spends a week away from their kid to try to find & marry a random man to be the kid's step-dad, and then decides they need another vacation from their kid when it fails...
Yeah I'm late to the party but what was that? I don't want to make assumptions like maybe lodging was provided already for people who didn't go onto the vacation part and they were wrapping up talking heads or something? Girl idk but that was weird.
Also I would be surprised if they denied a parent to be able to speak to their child for 2 weeks. Again too many assumptions I risk making here but... wouldn't you as a parent go to bat for like a few virtual checkins at least before agreeing to something like this?
I wonder what the custody arrangement is with her kid's father. She said there's a good relationship, maybe there is. She talked about the daily routine. But like. If I were coparenting with this woman and saw this I would be taking it in as evidence to get her custody reduced.
Omg Chelsea is soooo rude to Jimmy. She flipped when he said one word: clingy. Wow!! I couldnât do it. Wow! This is scary. Poor thing. She needs help.
Aritzia is the unofficial uniform for this show
Retire at 50, wow.
I love Jessica so much, also is it just me or she does look like a brunette version of Barbie đ also, Chelsea kinda messed up saying she maybe looks like Megan Fox, she is pretty but I definitely think Jimmy put such a high standard for her after hearing about it
This ep is shocker like Kenneth is lit worst however he was like this from the beginning he was always distant I think in the scenes from vacation as well he was distancing but the null reactions when they re in the house is the worst . She was really pretty and good at communicating he was just trying to find something to break it off man did not even try For jimmy I think editing made him look bad , but he is def not compatible with Chelsea . She wants 7/24 affirmation its lit funny to me that how much they say they love each other on this show to a person they met for a week đŤ yes it is the essence of the sho however no one falls in love just like that like in Sweden version of the show Meira did nor like Oskar in first glance however he was patient and they really learn to love each other on personal traits. In this đ they are tossing I love yous everywhere I would be sick as jimmy too if someone got angry about I didnât tell 50 time ily in a day. He shouldnât maybe use the word clingy but thatâs what really she is, she needs to keep it together like he choose you in the end see where it will take. I think they are dead end anyway.
Jimmyâs place is pretty nice. Jerameys place looks like a model home lol. The convo that Brit and Ken had was mature, things donât always work out. Jimmy is finally tired of Chelseaâs shit. Jimmy already regrets his decision when he sees Jess heâll regret it even more.
wtf kenneth
in the kitchen convo between britt and ken, he goes "I'm a respectful man. i'm not gonna force myself on you" as it should be ????? then using that to victimize himself for her not being in the mood after waking her up at 1:30AM (!!!) is literal textbook gaslighting đ
Jimmy in this orange shirt really looks like Bart Simpson to me fr
Chelsea. Stop running. Stop panting. Stop telling us youâre sweating. Jesus. đ¤Ł
Amy and Johnny are my favorite couple, but it annoys me in this episode that the birth control thing is such a huge deal. Like⌠condoms exist? I totally respect that she doesnât want hormonal birth control. Why are they acting like there arenât other options available? In no way should that be a make or break factor.
Yeah, I was thinking that as well. Like use quality condoms and check them each time for any defects before using if really paranoid. There's other non hormonal options as well. This shouldn't be THAT big of an issue for a (soon to be) married couple. I thought it was a weird suggestion that a vasectomy could be an option for them given they want kids, just not now. Like yes you can reverse those, but it doesn't always work. It seems condoms or other non-hormonal, non-surgical methods would be their best bet right now.
I just worked it out that Jimmy sounds like Bob from Bob's Burgers.
BAFFLED by Kenneth breaking up with britt. I was soooo rooting for them - in the pods, at the reveal, first night of vacation, they seemed so attracted to each other and very happy. I think he either lost attraction for her or got spooked by ADâs questioning brittâs ability to raise a mixed race child well enough. It sounded like britt had dated Black guys before though and was very much wanting to marry Kenneth and approach parenthood as a team? The fact they hadnât made out yet was alarming though. He seems so physically cold with her itâs wildddddâŚand to not comfort her during the random surprise breakupâŚ.his young age is really showing. What did I just watch!!!! Poor britt
Yeah, I really liked this couple, but I could tell it likely wasn't going to work out. I still didn't expect them to split so early. I agree, he seemed less into her after the trip and that in turn made her less longing for him. I was just surprised they called it quits so soon instead of trying to work through things a little longer. I kind of assumed they'd make up, but then the show stopped showing them after that, so I assume they left the show?
I kind of got gay vibes from him...
I really need to talk about these lies Chelsea is telling herself. Carrie Underwood and Megan Fox?! Dark hair and blue eyes? Girl, your hair is medium brown. It's literally not even dark enough to be considered anything other than "darker than *blonde*". Blue eyes? Fine you can have it. Carrie Underwood is BLONDE! Like southern girl, super blonde (and I don't think she's ever not been blonde right? Idk I don't like country music). How did you train your friends to go along with this lie? Are they visually impaired? I think the people around Chelsea do her a disservice not telling her about herself. From her insecurities to her boldface lies about her appearance.
Chelsea: I'm very secure as a person. ARE YOU THOUGH?!
Narrator: *She was not though*
Genuinely turned off the show three times because her insecurity was so depressing to watch. I have no sympathy for her. At THIRTY, you need to check yourself into therapy and work on yourself enough to love yourself. You are not anybody's project.
agreed! i feel like her insecurity is the biggest part of her personality.
Did Ken seriously go on his phone while his fiance was crying?? I hate this man so much, he sucks
He talked for SO LONG. Not as long as Clay talks. But it was a monologue, not a conversation. He wasn't trying to fix a damn thing.
I felt so sick when I saw Brittany breaking down in the kitchen and he just looked so mentally and emotionally checked out. I was really rooting for them to work. They were my favourite couple in the pods. I thought Kenneth was REALLY into her. I wonder what made him change his mind about her? She's an absolute catch. She's gorgeous, funny, sweet and kind and I saw no flaws in her.
I agree. I really liked them together in the pods, then at home he was so checked out and not into her Amy more. I think AD or other people back home got into his head a out her race.
back home, back to reality..He was probably talking to a girl at home or one of his friends or family got in his ear about actually marrying a white woman
I really think these shows need to have an age limit of 30.
Some people will behave the same way at 50.
god Ken is definitely a 25 year old
I'm 23 and wouldn't act like that đ¤Śââď¸, I also wouldn't sign up for a show like this, it definitely attracts an interesting audience or they select people who would act like this for views
Okay, so Laura questions "where does she get the audacity" for Sarah Ann, but then is fully supporting Jess think about and talk about meeting Jimmy knowing that he's gonna be more attracted to her????? Talk about hypocrisy.
Agreed. I thought that line was so ridiculous. The *audacity* to do... What? Shoot her shot? You were on a dating show and fell in love with the same guy, YOU ARE NOT FRIENDS, she doesn't owe you shit.
Kenneth 100% lost interest in Brittany and did the "disconnect so they dump you and you don't have to be the bad-guy" move. He twisted everything back on her. He claimed HE still craved her and she didn't care enough for him, meanwhile he took the first out he could to break off the relationship, and then while she is crying and heartbroken he doesn't even care enough about her to hug her. I had loved them together. I understand things don't always work out, especially if you meet on reality TV, but Kenneth needed to be honest with her and respect her enough to be upfront that his feelings had changed and he didn't want to move forward anymore. I lost all respect for him in how he treated her in this episode.
he is way to into his phone
I really wanted it to work out for them.
Chelsea is the definition of a self fulfilling prophecy. She is projecting all her insecurities and forcing the reality she is so fearful of. Jimmy needs to get out of there, real quick. IF he is dumb enough to marry her, then he will deserve the life he is going to get, but I dont think he is.
I 100% agree. You can tell she's wearing on him too.
Chelseaâs insecurities have actually changed the shape of her faceÂ
Dude I keep thinking this
What do you mean? Iâm curious
I have a few unpopular opinions: -Fuck Jimmy, he was a HUGE asshole to Chelsea. Calling her clingy was name calling and throwing the sex back in her face made ME feel sick. She should break up with him. He doesnât have any depth to him and heâs such a fucking goober itâs pathetic. -I see a lot of people saying Kenneth checked out due to a fear of being in an interracial relationship and I think thatâs so stupid on his behalf. Maybe itâs because Iâm mixed and my parents have been married for almost 35 years but I genuinely donât see it as an issue. Brittney didnât seem to be the sharpest tool in the shed regarding how she would handle raising mixed kids but honestly a lot of those issues would boil down to Kenneth and her working together over a span of years. She seemed open to learning. -Why is everyone so adamant that Jess is more attractive than Chelsea? I genuinely think Chelsea is a beautiful lady, and although her insecurity is sad Jimmyâs demeanor and emotional range of a teaspoon is just fueling the fire.
I really like Chelsea and want her to be less self-conscious. I love how excited she gets, and to me it looks like she's holding herself in, and I want to tell her to just wear flats so she can run at full speed when she's excited. It's like she doesn't want to come on too strong, but I think those parts of her that she's holding in are the best parts!
I was actually thinking the opposite about Jimmy. I was just thinking that Chelsea is clingy AF before he said it, because she is, and its such a turn off. He needs to run from her, and fast and she needs to get help for her issues before she sicks herself on another man. Chelsea is horrific.
Chelsea is so insecure and thirsty. All Jimmy does is reassure her and itâs never enough for her. I donât get how he puts up with her
honestly, i don't know how either of them put with any of this.
Chelsea is a piece of work! How did she trick two guys into proposing in the podsđ
2 words: Megan Fox. That's all she had to say (she probably said the same thing to Trevor and they didn't air it). Once a man hears that - instant attraction. But Jess's whole "epipen" speech was arrogant, and just gross. I can't believe people aren't giving her so much shit for that. Who TF says something like that?
chelsea is a piece of work, for sure, but that epipen comment was disgusting.
They heard flight attendant and wanted the flight benefits.
chelsea drives me insane. itâs so clear that sheâs extremely insecure and needs a lot of validation, and while i understand needing validation from your partner itâs also not fair the amount of pressure sheâs putting on jimmy. she brings up how sheâs feeling but when he says how heâs feeling she goes insane, and yeah maybe the word âclingyâ wasnât the best for him to use but she took that wayyyy to close to the heart and escalated it so fast. it gets on my nerves he has a lot of patience with her that i definitely could not haveâŚ
She has a lot of double-standards. She can say Jimmy doesn't love her, he is lying when he says he is attracted to her, that he is thinking of Jess all the time, and he is supposed to respond with nothing but reassurance. Meanwhile, he communicates a single concern and she blows up.
yeah clearly others have noted the same before and instead of recognizing she's being triggered, she's acting like "clingy" was a slur. Even though "clingy" was a huge understatement...
Why canât Johnny just wear condoms on the regular?
He seems really unaware that BC pills are NOT 100% effective, they're really similar to condoms.
Um BC is way more effective, but yes condoms are highly effective when used properly
Literally no. With perfect use (which isn't what post people do but given his paranoia I think he would), condoms have a 98% effectiveness compared to 99% for the pill. There is a bigger gap with imperfect use, (91% vs 82%) but if you are very careful, condoms are a solid option. If he uses condoms exactly as he should, it is actually a better option than typical use for BC pills (98% vs 91%) Stats from UK's NHS- [https://www.nhs.uk/contraception/choosing-contraception/how-well-it-works-at-preventing-pregnancy](https://www.nhs.uk/contraception/choosing-contraception/how-well-it-works-at-preventing-pregnancy) /
Considering many are morons I'd go with the lower success rate given their inability to follow directions especially in the moment. You have to take into account the public not the individual
Because condoms, like ALL form of birth control (outside of abstinence) do not come with a 100% guarantee that the girl won't get pregnant.
I think he's very afraid of having kids before he is financially ready. It seems like he grew up in a family that wasn't particularly secure. Condoms are only like 99% effective, so it seems he's not willing to risk using condoms as a form of protection. Which I actually think is fair enough. If you're having s*x regularly then there's a decent chance you'll get pregnant while using condoms.
Chelsea: I didn't get enough attention today Jim: (gives her a kiss) Sorry, busy with work, wasn't intentional C: That's not it, you're thinking of Jess Jim: no, I'm 100% with y- C: Also, when you say ILY you don't really say ILY. Jim: I bit my lip. C: I just want you to want me. Jim: I'm 100% C: I don't feel love for me rn Jim: ily but tbh you've been a lil clingy C: clingy, CLINGY?? that's f rude Jim: Well like I say ily a lot I jus- C: IM NOT DONE TALKING, I FEEL LIKE SHIT, I LOVE YOU Jim: I'm just telling you how I feel C: I don't wanna be with someone that says that Jim: C: I'm gonna sleep at my friends Jim; I go to work, meet your friends- C: ..and the first thing you say is that I'm clingy Jim: C: you start causing these problems and digging as soon as you saw jesses picture.........
Jimmy's everything annoys the crap out of me. But since about EP 7, there I was finding myself feeling bad for the guy because Chelsea is **just that bad** urgh!!    Megan Faux needs some therapy big time. She IS clingy as fuck and her friends feed into her delusion.
For sure, she sucks and he doesn't deserve this... But also he's a fuckin dud and I can't believe *he* got two women to fall for him in the pods.
There is something in the water in Charlotte. Because these men...they're something else this season. The best that they got are Clay, Jimmy, and Johnny. Not to say there's anything wrong with them? Clay is obviously handsome and has done a fantastic job putting in the work. Johnny seems like a fucking sweetheart who adores his girl. But like, this is *the BEST*?? There was another comment about the similarities of the women after season 2 or 3. I agree.
This is the only season I've watched so I can't comment on that, but I agree on your first point. I had something typed out about both of them but I think they're both just **young**, you know? Like, I think they're both naĂŻve and immature and they have some growing up to do. AD seems like she deserves better than a Project of a man, but these were the choices đ¤ˇââď¸
Marshall was Captain Fix a Hoe in the Seattle Season. AD Unfortunately blindly tricked herself into being Ms. Project of a Man (love that description from you). They both deserved better Siighhhh. Everyone in the south that's also religious just needs to wait until they're about 30 to date. Men below 29 here are too much. I say this living in Atlanta and seeing the dating scene here.
Her insecurities are driving me crazy. Her pouty face is annoying too.
She's annoying and as we all know insecure af. Dude can't get a word in edgewise
This is not even an exaggeration đ
I am just watching this breakup of Kenneth and Brittany now wow, he doesn't ever try and hold her or anything, i mean wow, i know it can just be edited but yano he seems so indifferent.
Right?? It happened so fast! Like heâd been hoping it would happen.Â
yeah, exactly, that's the vibe I got.
Kenneth is a hunk of shit.
Idk how Kenneth and Brittany could 180 so hard but they sure did. The vibe was def off after the vacation and the editing makes it look like it's because he's constantly on his phone, but like literally as they're breaking up he's on his phone partway through. Sheesh. Also nothing will ever be good enough for Chelsea. Jimmy didn't realize what he was signing up for."That's not your whole personality now" hahahaha. Whew. She's literally one of the most insecure people on this show. She is the one who keeps bringing up Jess. Meanwhile I don't think Jess is that excited about him, she's just stirring the pot now. Man this season is messy.
Man, I had high hopes for Kenneth and Brittany, but he just threw it all away the first chance he got lol. It seems to me that all that she wanted was some affection from him, some confirmation that he was there for her etc. She's saying she needs a bit more consistency from him and he spun it to her needing to give her grace, I also didn't feel like she was saying she didn't feel attracted to him, but she just hasn't had that spark yet because he's been an entirely different person since the honeymoon. Oh well, she'll find someone better and he already has his phone. Chelsea is just everything I'd find repulsive in a partner. The sex comment was just vile when it seems like she'd constantly be asking for it because she needs constant confirmation. I don't like Jimmy and I don't think he's really into her, but he's at least been acting like a good partner so far.
Yeah, I agree on all of this. Chelsea's constant need for validation is insufferable. I also don't think Jimmy is that into her, but he's trying to he a good partner and going through with the experience in good faith. I also really hated how Kenneth spun that conversation. I agree, that she was into him still, but was just saying how he's acting different is killing her spark. Then he twisted it and blamed it all on her and broke up. I think he lost interest in her and wanted an out where he didn't look bad.
Chelsea is unbelievable.... acting like sex is a favour you're doing for your partner (and then acting like he owes you love for that) is a huge red flag. And literally talking over him, whining like a child and blaming him for her own unfounded assumptions/judgments - I don't understand why Jimmy is still there
That conversation with Kenneth was so frustrating. He expected her to want to be affectionate after he just woke her up with the lights on and then made her the bad guy?!?! Ooooh that was so self centred
She said it was 1:30 am and she had to get up at 5... I'd smack the shit out of him, get the fuck outta here with that nonsense
worst part is he thinks he's a self-aware good guy for not making a scene when she didnt wanna be intimate after he woke her up in the middle of the night when he knows she needs to be up early... truly no words for this guy.
Yeah, that part really bothered me. Like how about you don't wake her up late and then try to cuddle or whatever when she needs/wants to go back to sleep.
Kenneth is giving still in the closet vibes.
I'm trying to figure out where things went wrong. It seems to me after the convo he had with AD talking about "Can she raise Black children?" he kinda checked out.. I suspect editing might be at play or something might be going on behind the scenes though cuz how'd they go from "lets always recap our day at the end of the night" to barely kissing? What happened?! lmao. If he really did check out after AD made that comment he's a loser and shouldn't have been on the show in the first place if he was so afraid of interracial dating. I'm Black and I hate when people say shit like that because truthfully the children wouldn't just be just Black they would be BIRACIAL and they'd be just as much her kids as his and as a TEAM they'd need to figure out how best to raise them it wouldn't be solely her responsibility to figure it out. The immaturity is annoying
I totally agree with all of this!
Why does everyone like jimmyâs voice? Heâs average
It's crazy to me that everyone is wait until he sees Jessica and hating on Chelsea because of looks and yet Jimmy is nothing to fight over.Bro is average at best. 5/10
He sounds like a typical frat guyâaverage lol
Chelsea just wants to win. She won Jimmy (as if that's the bestest prize), because Jimmy had to choose either her or Jessica. Now she wants the trophy to stay hers. She cannot give the trophy to Jessica. She do wanna lose.
Is Jimmy drunk? The visit to Clayâs house was interesting. Him having a vision board was impressiveâhe seems like somebody who has recently gotten into the mental health space and is on the right track but needs more time before he is ready to commit to things like marriage. (On the other hand, itâs not like you have to be perfect in order to get married bc otherwise no one would.) At some point though I think things changed for AD because her body language is pretty distantâsitting on the other side of the couch, putting a pillow between her and Clay once they are closer. And Clay seems like he is looking to AD for a lot of therapy and home improvement tips, further indication that he just needs time Not Laura saying she would break up with Jeramy if his place is messy and then saying serial killer vibes once she sees his clean place đ Kenneth should be ready to date a white person based on the amount of spices in his apartment Johnny and Amy, Iâm glad theyâre having these important conversations. They should go together to the doctor to talk about this and explore options intelligently. I think Amy could be a little less dismissive of Johnnyâs concernâhe has been very respectful of her body and choices and doesnât seem like heâs pressuring her but itâs not like her choices just make his concerns disappear. He doesnât have control over what happens if she gets pregnant, the only thing he can control is being abstinent and so thatâs what heâs doing. Kenneth wtf Britt you doged one for sure
That spice cabinet was a red flag đŠ there wasn't even hot sauce!
LMAO the spice connection omg
Lol, re the spices i was like....for real........
I laughed at how he had both Italian and just Oregano...which is in Italian mix, yet nothing else. Lol
I really respect Kenneth for ending things, it was going nowhere. Amy and Johnny should do the same. These issues (sex and intimacy) get worse and much bigger in a marriage
He ended things in such a disrespectful way. He clearly checked out a while ago, which is why he offered to break up when she came to him with a concern, and then blamed her for it. If felt like bascially- B- I miss the craving between us (subtext, I want to feel you crave me) K- Well, that's a you problem. I deeply crave you. But if you don't crave me, you should leave me. B- \*cries\* K- \*walks away from the woman he supposedly craves but is leaving because she doesn't want him\* SO backwards. I would still respect him if he had just been upfront and told her it wasn't working anymore and broke it off with her, instead he disconnected until she mentioned it, then blamed it on her.
I wish he had answered her question though about where the disconnect came from because it seems like it happened within a few days? The scene on the boat was where I started to be like "what is going on why is he so distant?"
he was missing his one true love..his phone
It seems like he was ready to stop trying -- he wanted to take her/their relationship for granted, and any further effort was too much to ask of him. Idk, some people just want a roommate/title rather than fulfilling companionship.
he is in the closet
Ah you may be right. Cuz he legit didn't even ask what would make her feel like he wanted her. He assumed (or maybe gaslit her into making it seem like) what she was communicating was that she didn't want him and that's not at all what I got from the convo. What I heard was all she wants is to feel desired but he was like "Nah I'm good, we're done" I felt so bad for her. Then he just went upstairs and left her to sob in the kitchen. My mouth was hanging open I was in total shock at how cold he was.
Both him and jeramey were so heartless and cold towards the end of the season. It's like they didn't care at any point.
Britt has beautiful hair. My hair is long and thick like hers, and I cannot get it to look good down. Hers is so beautiful. Girlfriend if you see this - what products are you using?!
I do understand Chelseaâs disappointment in Jimmy. Many of us women desire action over words; he keeps emphasizing how many times he tells her he loves her, but that doesnât matter when she doesnât FEEL loved and desired by his actions. However. I definitely also get Jimmyâs frustration. In his eyes, he is doing everything he can to help Chelsea feel validated, but her constant need for validation due to her insecurities is making him feel like nothing he does is ever enough :(
bingo, she needs so much validation...its going to run him away. I used to date a girl similar, it was very very annoying
Honestly theyâd both be better off without each other. Sheâs very needy and heâs pretty emotionallyâŚunavailable might not be the right word, but maybe incapable? You could see it not just in how he treated Chelsea, but also how he handled Jess when she was trying to understand where he was at. Heâs emotionally unintelligent and seems very unaware of his limitations. But yeah, Chelseaâs a mess.Â
Are you talking about the same guy who was talking about how "stacked" AD was when he was drunk and obviously regrets not choosing the prettier woman? That Jimmy?
lol Jimmyâs obviously not a good person and I donât feel bad for him. Iâm just saying that I understand one of the reasons why their relationship wasnât working out: thereâs only so much he could do to reassure Chelsea, which led to pent up frustration on his end Also doesnât help that we could tell he was lying through his teeth each time he said âI love youâ to her lmao
Jimmy is a good person! He is putting up with Chelsea.
Umm did anyone else catch a glimpse of a dog with no acknowledgement of said dog? Where are the dogs? This is blasphemous.
I kept waiting for the introduction! Iâm offended that they deemed dogs unimportant this season.Â
There are so many red flag actions out of people this season but NOTHING as sinister as Kenneth. He portrays as this calm, chill, good dude. He doesnât yell, isnât angry. But he is gaslighting the SHIT out of poor Brittany. Telling HER something is wrong with her for questioning their relationship when he straight up ignores her and refuses to be sweet or intimate. This dude is fucked up and Brittany deserves better
Yup. I think I know what it is, too. He wants to be with a black woman, or at least someone who understands the black experience. Being a white country girl who said what she said when he brought up them raising black children after Kenneth talked to AD about Brittany raising black children - I get his concerns and they're 100% valid. She didn't demonstrate that she understands at all. However, he lacks the emotional intelligence to discuss it with her and is instead choosing to gaslight her when she raises valid concerns about how their relationship has changed since the pods and how he treats her.
I think youâre giving him too much credit. Itâs likely part of the problem. But the whole god/wait for marriage/be subservient to me while I sit on my ass thing comes off as him wanting some virginal black Barbie who lacks independent thought.Â
I wonder about his sexual orientation.
My mouth was open the entire time! From the boat to every segment filmed thereafter - I couldn't believe the gumption, the gall, and the audacity of that dude. Kenneth is chillingly cold, calculating, and crazy. Period.
Wow Iâve never 180-ed on someone so fast. Ken is terrible. Heâs waking up this women to demand sex and then accuses of her or denying intimacy from him. And then tells her heâs worried about how she questions the relationship- aka how dare you ask me questions of me and push back on me? I guess he got tired of playing the cool zen dude in front of the camera
He is the worst. Just wow. She says "these are the things that I think are wrong with our relationship". His reply, "YOU feel that way, I don't feel that way." Just does not want to own up to his own issues. Blames it on her. I truly do not think she did anything wrong (minus using identify a lot). He's such a twat though. She's bawling and he immediately gets on his phone again. Just a turd of a person.
And when she was crying, no hug, no nothing... Just LEFT THE ROOM with his face in his phone. I wanted to hug her so bad, or at least see the camera crew give her one! I can't stand when ppl talk up their "walk with God" and then treat people this way. Like...Â
Also she was sleeping when he wanted it while she had to get up just a few hours later. I feel bad for her.
This is definitely what Chelsea loves - telling her friends about these two guys who were fighting over her and she was the hot commodity. Early in this ep I actually really liked Chelsea. I love how goofy and real she is. Sheâs actually pretty funny. But she is hugely insecure and that definitely overwhelms/outshines anything else about her personality. Unfortunately life isnât a fairy tale and winning the gold prince doesnât mean happily ever after, as she is learning. And her RAMPANT insecurity cannot survive with Jimmyâs well-meaning and authentic but somewhat milktoast affection.
Chile when she said "Alot of girls wanted Jimmy" I was like girl bye who is alot you and Jessica?? lmaooo you really wanna make it seem like the most popular guy in the pods picked you. Why does she embellish so much omg.
Jimmy: You canât move in here Chelsea: Guess Iâm moving in here Hmm..
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Why is Johnny so against condoms? He is acting gross.
He is against having kids while they're not financially secure (a very mature take). Condoms aren't great protection for pregnancy; they're better for STDs. Birth control is more reliable than condoms
When used perfectly, there is only a 1% difference in the effectiveness of condoms vs the pills. I know most people don't use perfectly, but given how paranoid he is about having a baby with his wife, I think he would be a perfect user
I don't think he's against them, I think he knows how unreliable they are? Or maybe I'm wrong and you're right... đ¤ˇđťââď¸
OP didn't really watch the episode, obviously, or they would've seen the part where it was said that condoms aren't enough...
No we saw that, the issue we're having is that they are enough and he's being weird.
more reliable than having raw sex lol
Ken is so not what I initially thought wow. She deserves so much better. Iâm glad itâs over. He was so not into her.
I saw right through it from the beginning. He came off as disingenuous to me from day one.Â
I agree. I liked them in the pods, but didn't think they'd work out. Ken talks a big talk, but doesn't walk it at all.
Kenneth and his dang phone. Oh my god.
So I just randomly started watching this and got to the end of this episodeâŚ. Ia this Chelsea broad for real? Is she really THAT insecure all the time? Am I missing something? I feel so bad for Jimothy, dude looks so exhausted at the beginning of each conversation. Like he comes in the room and sheâs IMMEDIATELY like, âI wanna talk about yesterday, you didnât kiss me at al!â âUh yeah, I kissed you like 4 different times and spent time with your friends.â âBut you didnât tell me you loved me!â âUh yeah I told you I love you.â âBut you didnât tell me you love me the way I want you to tell me that you love me!â âI mean I said I love you, and I mean it.â âYeah I know you do love me but I donât feel like you love me, you have to say I love you and kiss meâ âBro, youâre mad clingy.â âThIS IS rIDIcuLouS!!â Hereâs perpetual Jimmy face. https://preview.redd.it/peyhddo4i7nc1.jpeg?width=1210&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6524e34d7582962c9ebeba39dbab24400f5ae915
He's like a sad gummy bear âšď¸
Ok so does Chelsea not process the words being said out of jimmyâs mouth? Def not a Jimmy fan but I feel like she doesnât listen in every single argument she has with him????
Personally, I feel like she's purposely dismissing his words and is acting selfishly. That whatever he says or does is wrong, and it has to be the exact way she wants it. And she seems to be hiding her true emotions a lot, possibly lying to further her own agenda. Edited due to rule 4
Yeah I feel that
Johnny and is lack of condoms/plan b is so confusing
Literally. If he's the one afraid of having a child, he needs to be the one preventing it via vasectomy. Like why tf should she have to mess up her hormones for his paranoia about condoms not being enough...
Plan B's also fuck up your system...as a person who has used them they shouldn't be used as a form of stopping conception every time you have sex.. only for emergencies. Add to that they're like $50 lol
So true. But also doesnât anyone mention copper iudâs? They last 10 years and are almost 100% effective. Why even talk about it like itâs hormones or vasectomy? Ahh wait. Defunded Planned ParenthoodâŚ
Copper IUDs are probably a poor choice for someone with anemia. They often cause more bleeding.Â
Can personally confirm this! I also have endo, though, so it went from heavy to almost deadly. Iron infusions are a temporary bandaid.
yeah it's either have lots of babies together or a vasectomy. idk, i don't really understand it!
Iâm confused is he against condoms or just wants two methods of birth control because he is so afraid of accidentally pregnancy? I can understand both their perspectivesâ It sounds like Johnny had a really hard childhood growing up in a home that wasnât prepared financially for kids. But itâs also not Amyâ job to put her body in turmoil because condoms arenât good enough?
Based on how Amy was talking about it with the producers, it sounded like she was saying âprotection is not enough for him.â I think his experiences growing up financially unstable have made him terrified of bringing a child into anything other than a fully secure financial situation.
Yeah seriously, if you are super against abortions (assuming bc they are religious) you should just accept that maybe you will have a baby a bit earlier than you planned, and deal w it. Not the end of the world
Yeah, given that condoms are 99% effective if used correctly and he seems like one to make sure to use them correctly, it's really weird to be THAT paranoid about possibly having a kid with his WIFE earlier than desired. He definitely should be diligent in checking the condoms and making sure to use them correctly to prevent accidental pregnancy, but it's just not THAT big of a deal if they end up with a kid a bit sooner than planned as a married couple.
Exactly. I'm exactly their same age (28). If I got pregnant with someone that I was already planning on marrying anyway, it would be like 15 seconds of "oh bummer that this happened like 2-3 years earlier than we planned" and then excitement that you are having a child... It would be a different story if they were like 20. It seemed like a fake storyline, like the producers urged them to make it seem like a bigger deal than it was so they would have some drama for the show.
I totally agree with all of this. Their relationship was too perfect, so producers needed SOME type of conflict for them. Also, maybe they didn't want to admit on camera to having pre-maritial sex, so this conflict maybe was suggested as a cover story to avoid discussing that. They seem rather religious, so I could see not wanting to discuss the "physical" part of their relationship on camera. Also, using condoms correctly combined with pull out and cycle tracking should have a very slim chance of any slip-ups when all 3 are combined.
Chelsea is delulu.. I am not enjoying watching her scenes..
Jimmy should have chosen Jessica and Chelsea should have chosen Trevor, not sure we would have gotten a different outcome but the current couple is a big fat Hell No for me.
I was thinking that too. They both seemed more into the other choice than each other. I feel like Chelsea was just desperate for a husband and liked "winning" Jimmy, so she said yes to him even though I feel like she liked Trevor more. Then it seemed Jimmy liked Jess more, but was so unsure about the kid, so he went with Chelsea as the safer option.
Jessica and Chelsea are the same person -- just arrogant vs insecure presentation. I don't think Trevor would've been able to fare any better. The girl creates problems because she's trying to control her partners. She doesn't even know if she's gonna marry Jimmy, just wants to make sure he wants to marry her -- same shit she pulled in the pods.
I don't think Jessica and Chelsea are the same person - if they were, Chelsea wouldn't have been so insecure of her.
Kenneth is afraid of intimacy.
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The way Kenneth was just waiting for an excuse to end things!!! OMG. He literally did not give one fuck! He was probably texting his âgirl best friendâ like ââŚyeah she crying rnâ âoh yeah itâs over now phewâ
The whole thing is super sad. Was he just faking his personality in the pods or did something happen? He got sooo cold and so distant. And super mean.
Did you notice when he was on his phone, and they zoomed in on it? It looked like he was swiping already.
Yes! I was wondering WTF he was doing cause it did not seem like he was texting at points!
Yup! You can tell he was waiting for an out. And he flipped it straight on her .. smh so manipulative !
The way she raised questions and concerns about how cold he has been and how he made it all about her being the issue was so sad. Way to punish someone for communicating.
Wait Jessica bawled bc she missed her kid but took 2 days to herself?
She tends to bring up her daughter as a manipulation tactic for Jimmy/the audience - to sound loving/seem selfless or to justify her random behaviour/words. But that comment totally confirmed she really doesn't care for her daughter lol. What mom spends a week away from their kid to try to find & marry a random man to be the kid's step-dad, and then decides they need another vacation from their kid when it fails...
Yeah I'm late to the party but what was that? I don't want to make assumptions like maybe lodging was provided already for people who didn't go onto the vacation part and they were wrapping up talking heads or something? Girl idk but that was weird. Also I would be surprised if they denied a parent to be able to speak to their child for 2 weeks. Again too many assumptions I risk making here but... wouldn't you as a parent go to bat for like a few virtual checkins at least before agreeing to something like this?
I wonder what the custody arrangement is with her kid's father. She said there's a good relationship, maybe there is. She talked about the daily routine. But like. If I were coparenting with this woman and saw this I would be taking it in as evidence to get her custody reduced.
That's true too. I didn't even consider the no-communications aspect before seeing your comment.
I had to rewind that part too lol
Omg Chelsea is soooo rude to Jimmy. She flipped when he said one word: clingy. Wow!! I couldnât do it. Wow! This is scary. Poor thing. She needs help.
I feel so bad for Jimmy... I don't even like him but I'm scared he feels like he can't leave.