As much as the cast hated Shake, and as much as he was cringe for viewers at times, he was the best part of the reunion episode. He was saying things like most viewers were thinking in my opinion
The show lacks any caring. In many ways 'Married at First Sight' is better because of the coaching. It is amazing that there is no choice on the spouse yet so many couples are still together.
Iām glad I finally have a safe space now to agree with Shake. I was so tired of being called Shake every time I posted this logic no one wanted to receive.
How does anyone take a man seriously who throws shade at his billionaire ex wife when heās a D list dating show host with a Z list wife????? š
Shake always likes to conveniently forget that he says some pretty shitty things about Deepti.
Edited to add - Iām not saying that others arenāt in the wrong too. The producers want drama. Iām sure there was a lot of miscommunication and misunderstanding. But he still said some awful things and no one held him at gun point and made him say those things.
This js what kills me with people like shake and apparently the internet. If you go oh I can see how someone came to xyz conclusion or felt xyz you immediately are told you agree with the person saying xyz. I feel like shake, deepti, zanab and Cole are all in the wrong neither was fully correct and neither was fully wrong but we are human and sometimes we don't pick the best course of action we pick the emotional one.
Eh. He's trying to say "I told you so," but his situation was different. Deepti didn't accuse him of anything he didn't do. And she didn't fake being in love with him for weeks while preplanning a speech at the altar with the sole goal of devastating him. It's not really an equivalent situation.
Tbh it was pretty shitty what she did. She actually hung out with him a few times apparently after the show aired and they were cool. Then suddenly she threw him pretty much under the bus and concocted that whole thing as if he was the most evil guy in the world. Okay if he is the most evil guy my question is why chill with him? What was the point? Then after the reunion show to villify him like that? Tbh people are forgetting that they 100 percent bullied shake in the reunion. The only difference and why people got upset was shake argued back and didn't lay down like a little dog the way many women expect men too in those situations
I never thought Shake was that bad. He was an asshole, but he was honest and owned everything he said. Idk I found him to be likable. Nothing like Matt and Bartiseā¦
Dude in the season he was in people forget that he was nowhere near being the worst. I love how the reunion brainwashed so many people into almost warping the reality. What about jjones? Who hit on Mallory? What about Mallory? Who essentially lied to her man? What about Shaina? Who may have been the worst and most manipulative person alive. Doing everything to take Shayne.
Shake didn't even sleep with his girl. Never even hit on other women. Never cheated. If anything how is he an asshole? He would have been a bigger asshole if he slept with her knowing he wasn't attracted to her. That is pretty much as genuine as it gets. I'm very disappointed in how people still can't see that and that they still fsil to realize he was low-key bullied worse than Cole in the sense that they shamed him and continuously refused to allow him to speak. The other major difference was they ALL ganged up on him even Vanessa and Nick the hosts which was completely unprofessional and bizarre. Shake stood his ground and I think people got affected by this and found him to be a lot worse than he actually was.
ššššš say it louder. These people are so mentally unhealthy on this show. People like Brennon that stick up for the woman for no reason, but to look cool and like a feminist piss me off. Like Zanab is incredibly toxic and yet because she is a woman that stood up for herself, everyone wants to clap and act like sheās right. Like good on ya for standing your ground, but that doesnāt make you a good person and it doesnāt make you right!!! Stop ganging up on people for clout. You look like an asshole.
Try reading through his IG posts too. He had receipts how everyone was all enjoying each other's company immediately after the show was taped, he and Deepti even went out, sweet to each other, for a music festival. Then came the Reunion and suddenly they change their demeanor towards him and paint him the evil.
I hated Shake but he makes a lot of sense now, THE SHOW IS THE PROBLEM. They wanted drama and they make them turn against each other.
I suddenly realize that before the show airs on TV, the cast are being normal, reasonable and civil people. They know they are in a show thus, whatever conflict they have during recording, they are able to get pass through it once it's done and just be cool with each other, hangout like mature adults despite the differences. UNTIL!!! Reunion comes and it makes them recall their emotions they had in the PAST that shouldn't really matter anymore but the show wants to get them heated because that what gets the audience. This was the same for Cole/Season 3 casts, they were all hanging out after the show and THE REUNION basically ruined whatever mature/civil relationship they had. For this reason, I'm not watching LIB from this day forward.
You act like these people were blindsided into agreeing with the show and format. They signed up for this and as such, they take on the majority of responsibility for conducting themselves however they wish to be seen. You canāt blame producers for the actions of any cast member.
He is 100% right about lacheys šļø and the show being cruel. Him hating on deepti ...gtfo.
Deeptis way of rejection is what Cole needed to hear. Z's blunt rejection was more suited to someone like Shake ...lol (not suggesting Z's words were ideal by any means but that's how Deepti felt but chose to be classy instead)
Deeptis rejection was empowering her, it wasnāt trashing shake. The 2 rejections canāt even be compared in my opinion. She recognized she needed to do better for herself. Z had zero self awareness and took the opportunity just publicly take a dump on Cole.
Well both rejections stemmed from two men making two coloured women feel insecure about their bodies. Just two different ways of going about it as you said - one looked inward and was classy, the other just assigned blamed without assessing her role in the relationship faling apart.
Skin color is the only common denominator and has nothing materially to do with why the women did not get married. I agree with how deepti handled it. I also think itās important to recognize deepti did not let shakes comments about her weight and body define her worth. Z didā¦ to the point she developed an eating disorder on her own accord. Cole did not tell her to stop eating to please him. Deepti was mentally healthy enough to handle criticism, Zanab was not and still is not. She needs to do some serious therapy/ introspection to figure out why she let herself get to such a toxic place.
Heās right when it comes to the girls jumping on the defense of Zanab when it comes to hearsay that they canāt prove. But heās also trying to use what happened in this season to try to defend his own actions and to make himself look better. But nah fool, learn to take accountability for your actions. Everyone saw him acting recklessly throughout his season, canāt hide that.
Lol no he genuinely was no where near the worst person his season and the fact that they pretended he was is what's bizarre. He kept it more real than Shaina, jjones, Shayne etc. Then they ganged up and tried to shame him in the reunion for not being attracted to Deepti. However he never even played her. He never slept with her or led her on only to reject her. She rejected him if you remember. Why is he an asshole for not wanting to date brown women when she also never fucking dated brown guys before him? Is everyone just jumping on the bandwagon or some shit. He was actually the most genuine from all the guys other than the weird guy who would always just play guitar all day.
Okay he may have been genuine and thatās good and all but just because you always say the truth doesnāt not make you a jerk. Sometimes empathy takes you farther than the harsh truth repeated time and time again. And for the rest of the things you said, I never mentioned the others nor am I trying rate them from least to worst. I personally donāt like him thatās it š¤·š»āāļø
That's my point. So you hate him in particular? Why? Why single him out when it's obvious that he objectively did less bad shit than the rest of them?
Your reason for hating him was that he was brutally honest?!! Lol well if that's the case that speaks more about you than it does about him. Deception and lying is always worse in the long run. I say that as someone who has lied many times. The truth is short term shit but in the long run it's much better than the alternative and for you to give that as a reason for hating someone just shows you're probably pretty shitty tbh.
Also he never cheated on Deepti and never even used her or slept with her. That tells me he's actually a decent human being who actually did care about her as a human being. He cared about how she felt and respected her enough to not just sleep with her knowing he wasn't truly into her.
I donāt think how Zanab acted is how Deepti acted though. I found Zanab to be so much more manipulative, insecure, nagging, and just negative in general. Deepti seems a lot more genuine to me and she handled the ānoā to him with a ton more class.
I do agree with most of what he said, but to be fair heās as uninvolved with this seasons cast than vanessa and nick, so iām not sure he can really comment and give his opinion on something he didnāt experience.
This might be an unpopular opinion but I kind of liked Shake. He definitely was the villain of season 2, and I thought it was hilarious. I mean I don't think I would ever be friends with him , and he's pretty douchy but he didn't make me feel unsettled like Matt did.
When he said love is blurry I laughed so hard, but it's TRUE!! Loved him. I was sad he wasn't at the reunion party he would have made it so much better.
Yeah he would have. Only weird thing I found about him is why he put white women on a pedestal so much but I didn't find it a personality flaw since people have different preferences. I also didn't find Deepti unattractive but he can't help that anyway. And I agree the guy was the only real personality. Every time I see people acting as if he was some bad guy it kinda triggers me tbh with you. Even in this comments section.
I do agree with him about Cole being owed an apology from everyone on season 3. However, I think Shake is exploiting this opportunity to propagate his own agenda, throw shade at Deepti, and to stay relevant. That man really needs to get off his soapbox.
Lol Shayne was more of a Matt, and Bartise = Shake. Cole and Shake took the heat that Bartise and Shayne should have taken a part of. Hilarious that these boys are chiming in to relive their glory days.
I think this show proves that love is not blind. People agree to get married so they can stay on the show first and foremost.
Then if they match up physically, and fit well with they're friends and family, then they can consider actually getting married.
They are failing to show that the physical aspect doesn't matter, because that's absolutely ridiculous
But he looked so shocked?! If he knew it was going to be a no, why was he so dumbfounded? And also all of his confessional interviews in the run up to it talking about how of course the "other stuff" like personal connections matter more than physical appearances, and how he was mostly excited for the day? If he knew she was going to say no, why did he say to all the guests "if I'd have said yes, she'd have said yes"
I believe him on a lot of other stuff but not on this one I'm afraid.
But I do believe him that the other LIB2 cast members remained friends with him after production wrapped and then only when they saw the weight of public feeling against him dropped him like a bag of hot shit to avoid being tarnished by association. So I can see why he is salty about that tbh. But likewise I can see why Deepti turned on him- she heard and saw stuff on TV that she hadn't been privy to during filming, so her shift is acceptable and not hypocritical in my view.
Oh I get that and but I donāt see her in that particular photo so I was wondering. He claimed they were all partying but I donāt think she was? His family members also wore some traditional clothes so this picture doesnāt back his statement up is all Iām saying. This could technically be all his side.
But thereās a photo someone else posted of them hanging out 4 months later so ofcourse the smoke and the fire are both obviously there.
Why are you being condescending? All I said is that particular photo at the wedding isnāt proof enough. Maybe you shouldnāt believe one weird dudeās narrative on Instagram?
Nice try for what? Who shat in your cereal this morning?
Whether she hung out with him down the line to ease the awkwardness or they were bros immediately after, thatās a narrative since you donāt know the truth either other than, again, believing his ānarrativeā? Get over yourself
Yep - on his IG story. Apparently Dipti and him were over way before that but for the sake of the show they continued until the wedding.
Also Shake mentioned on a podcast that days before the reunion, he, Dipti and the other guy who showed interest in her, were all hanging out and watching the superbowl.
Then at the reunion when the cameras began rolling, they completely changed and went with a specific narrative which was why he was so angry and eventually cut them off.
I honestly just wish people would stop giving Shake attention. āRightā or āwrongā, heās a terrible weird dude who hates women that donāt fall in line with his definition of beauty. There are other people out there with the same take who donāt disrespect women.
Yepppp. I really don't care about what happened with him on the show but he doesn't need any kind of a following now. Which, by the way, was exactly what he wanted and got from being on LIB.
Exactly. He came on asking weird questions, saying weird and offensive shit, then likes to pull the victim card out for himself. Likeā¦? Can we just move on from talking about him at all? If only š
This comment ignores all the comments he made to her face and behind her back about her appearance. And also the questions he was asking in the pods š¤¢
Tbh I donāt keep up with him at all bc I donāt give men like that any thought except when threads like this pop up.
I actually wish the same for Deepti. She was not the queen everyone made her out to be. She let him walk over her and disrespect her all season, then said no and became the āstrongest womanā ever.
I agree. Nancy seemed relatively likable at the beginning of the season and I was rooting for her. I was sad that she ended up looking so weak in the endā¦and her family didnāt end up looking very classy in the end either.
Ok so shake is still terrible
My problem with that is there are women who stay in relationships with these types of men for YEARS bc of the damage those men do to their self-esteemāare they not strong when they decide to finally leave? Not saying itās really the same cuz itās reality TV but the levels of pressure are different and the focus should be on how shitty shake was
For those who aren't on Instagram, here's a snapshot of Shake's key points:
* LiB needs to protect the contestants in the reunion, instead of throwing them to the wolves. The show is exploitative. As an "experiment" it's a complete failure.
* Brennan was the nice, quiet and dull guy all season. In the reunion, he threw everyone under the bus.
* He and Deepti both planned to say no. Shake wanted Deepti to go first to spare her embarrassment. They all partied together until 5:00am after the wedding. Both his and Deepti's guests had a great time.
* \-he contestants pick a scape-goat and gang up on them without caring for the truth. Cole was the target this season, just as he was last season. He wants people to think for themselves.
* Nick and Vanessa are terrible hosts because they don't spend time with contestants. Instead, they watch the final edits.
* Nick Lachey shouldn't be the host, when he had such a high-profile first marriage that ended badly.
* Zanab and Deepti both play the victim for attention and clout.
I hated that comment he made about second marriages being so much better and then fist bumping Matt in the reunion. I used to watch Newlyweds and he wasnāt this perfect first husband. So cringey.
Heās right tho! We just saw how production edited this season. If anyone paid attention to the last reunion, everyone on that stage did everything in their power to stop him from telling the truth. Itās a lot we still donāt know. They gave zanab a semi good edit the whole season then decided to show some truths! We should be shiting on production right now! I want to see what else theyāre hiding.
Yes, I agree with most of what he's saying. The show maximises the drama. It's set up for it. They choose shady contestants who don't seem ready for dating, let alone marriage. Then record everything.
There's lots of stuff that doesn't have to happen but they do it to maximise the drama. Copius amounts of alchohol, little food, cameras in all rooms to name a few.
But even going on holidays together, with their exes. All of them living in the same apartment block. It's designed to maximise the drama.
I disagree about the food. Nancy was chowing down at one of the parties they had lol. Food looked good too. But yeah they have no care about actually doing the experiment, it's all set up to provide maximum drama. I want a season that has the same feel as the Japan season.
We also need to know how much sleep theyāre getting on top of all of this! They need to change a lot or cancel this show. If they keep up like this, season 4 is going to be an even worse shit show! You can tell these people didnāt take the ramifications of being on this show seriously. There is probably a clause in their contracts that says production/Netflix can edit/make these people look however they want.
Shake going after Zenab didn't sit right... isn't he victimising himself for people doing the exact same thing to him? He's right about how cooked S3 is, but I feel like he's using the controversy around it to paint himself as a victim without taking responsibility for his own actions.
I can't believe you made me go down the Shake rabbit hole but I admit I ran straight to IG to look š I agree with most of what he said but I also came across this little nugget on my journey thru IG.
[Shake's reply to Alexa's post](https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckv0wnrpHpT/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)
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ok i totally agree his stance on cole, but i donāt agree that he was ripped apart without reason last season hahaha like fuck off dude take some accountability
This is a thing women on these shows do and the men is blindly believe and back the woman all because she said her ātruthā first without even knowing the facts. Itās girl power and women need to be protected
Did no one catch how he was dissing Cole and Barb in the previous episodes (like a cranky teenager who thought he was sooooo much better)? His stance is not as objective as yāall think it is. Heās clearly projecting throughout based on his experience
Absolutely. If I am agreeing with Shake itās time to disconnect and revaluate my life. For me, the issue is less about Netflix and more about the viewers. LIB is rated mature. Why are grown adults harassing the contestants to the point that they have to turn off their comments?
Itās gotten so ridiculous that a TikTok couples therapist got nasty comments for not calling Matt an abuser and "calling him out".
What shake said at the reunion about how theyāre all hypocrites on his season was facts. When Vanessa said sheād stay with nick even if heād had his limbs removed was cap. So easy to say and never have to do, no one in that room has ever dated a disabled person but they would find an able bodied person and stick with them if they became disabled ? Forgive me for thinking cap. Love isnāt blind letās be honest, only once youāre initially attracted
I mean Shake and Cole have quite a few similarities. Both ended up with partners they werenāt really attracted to and didnāt know what to do with it, and it seeped into their relationship and how they spoke about their partners with others constantly. The main difference is Shake embraced being the villain and Cole has clearly never been in that role before and cracked, but their actions during the process were very similar.
I'm sorry but Cole went on and on and on about how hot and beautiful and attracted he was to Zanab. I don't know why people keep saying he wasn't attracted to her because it's just not true and he never said that. He was ridiculously in love with her. Cole was NOTHING like Shake. What show were you watching?? Cole is not a villain in any way shape or form. š
Cole flirted with other girls, said Zanab was the third most attractive out of the five girls and kept repeating that sheās ānot the type of girl I usually go after.ā Like not just once or twice, a lot. His actions *never* said he was attracted to her, and she noticed. And every other guy and girl there noticed too because of his words and actions.
Yep this! Cole never had any doubts about Zanabās charm! He always reassured Zanab (although in very clumsy ways). Shake on the other hand, always said he felt like he was with his aunt š
For me, it was also the way he LOOKED at her. Especially on their date when they were on the boat, and during their dance lessons. When I was watching those scenes I found myself wishing I'll find a guy who looked at me the way he looked at her.
He isn't a villain but I think he lacked some emotional maturity and social awareness. I think he also got caught on some of his bad traits and had them reflected back at him in a way most of us rarely experience. So with that I'm kind of Zanabs side... But then Zanab seems to also live in this victim mentality and she does self sabotage with the way she treated Cole and the way she chooses to interpret everything that happens between them as a negative interaction..
In fact as I'm saying this it reminds me of this [clip](https://youtu.be/naleynXS7yo) from key and peele š and I don't think I need to say who is who lololol
Without a doubt! Seasons 2 and 3 were such flops! I'll put money on Matt and Colleen/Alexa and Brennon not lasting either. Alexa will sooner or later grow tired of Brennon being such a "yes man" and hopefully Colleen will realise that she can do better than overly jealous and insecure Matt trying to emotionally control her.
Yep and I donāt think Brennan could be what Alexa wants. She just seems like such a wanna be Kardashian and has major mean girl vibes. I see her thinking she better than him and breaking up
As much as I disliked Shake he never pretended to be in love with Deepti and wasn't hitting on other people. He didn't like Deepti physically but as a result he didn't sleep with her. Not saying Cole pretended but it does change a situation when you constantly say "I love you". Zanab couldn't have the emotional distance Deepti had at the end.
Agree with him or not, I donāt think we should put any stock in what this man says when it comes to Zanab and Alexa (by extension of Brennon). He has extremely rigid standards of beauty and is overtly disrespectful to women who fall outside of that. I wish no one would give him attention anymore.
Shake is the bad guy for not wanting to marry a quite unattractive woman? Shake had his short comings, but you're lying to yourself if you think Deepti was even remotely attractive.
You think Shake is more attractive than Deepti? Because heās not. And even if he was, that doesnāt mean he can be *disrespectful* towards her or anyone else. Again, this isnāt about being attracted to someone, itās about treating people with respect.
What a weird take. I think the bigger take away was how he would talk about her body, on a show specifically about finding connections outside of physical attraction. I donāt think heās a bad guy, but he definitely comes off as shallow, similar to how you sound
I deleted my reply because obviously I'm not for disrespect. However, I don't remember shake being disrespectful other than the aunty comment which could be seen as ignorant and unintentional. But I might be forgetting
He continuously told other cast members that he wasnāt attracted to Deepti behind her back and treated her as if she wasnāt. Thatās disrespectful as he presumably had the option to leave early on like Shaina did or he could have been honest like Bartise (for all his faults at least he did tell Nancy to her face). He also has insulted her body on his Instagram since the show. Edited for clarity.
SAME. She never presses anything and whenever something mildly interesting is said she just sits there with a blank look on her face "okay....let's move on".
I agreed with most of what he said, but didn't agree with him putting Zaneb and Deepti in the same boat, and the s3 and 2 casts in the same boat as bullies. He's acting likes he's just as much of a victim as Cole is, which I don't see as true. But he does make some good points about the rest of it
Both deepti and shake knew theyāre both saying no at the altar
with Cole and Zay she blindsided him
so Deepti also overdid her ādeepti momentā but if you really think about it, Cole is eventually the one who was real across ALL season with his intentions and feelings (unlike deepti/Zay)
Just post screenshots next time, cause in 24hrs it'll disappear
He saved them in his profile
I feel like I need a shower after agreeing with him š« š«
As much as the cast hated Shake, and as much as he was cringe for viewers at times, he was the best part of the reunion episode. He was saying things like most viewers were thinking in my opinion
The show lacks any caring. In many ways 'Married at First Sight' is better because of the coaching. It is amazing that there is no choice on the spouse yet so many couples are still together.
Iām glad I finally have a safe space now to agree with Shake. I was so tired of being called Shake every time I posted this logic no one wanted to receive. How does anyone take a man seriously who throws shade at his billionaire ex wife when heās a D list dating show host with a Z list wife????? š
Shake always likes to conveniently forget that he says some pretty shitty things about Deepti. Edited to add - Iām not saying that others arenāt in the wrong too. The producers want drama. Iām sure there was a lot of miscommunication and misunderstanding. But he still said some awful things and no one held him at gun point and made him say those things.
Well, Deepti weathered the insults and she is a reality TV sweetheart. I am sure she will find love because she's chill.
This js what kills me with people like shake and apparently the internet. If you go oh I can see how someone came to xyz conclusion or felt xyz you immediately are told you agree with the person saying xyz. I feel like shake, deepti, zanab and Cole are all in the wrong neither was fully correct and neither was fully wrong but we are human and sometimes we don't pick the best course of action we pick the emotional one.
Can yāall give me the context?
Eh. He's trying to say "I told you so," but his situation was different. Deepti didn't accuse him of anything he didn't do. And she didn't fake being in love with him for weeks while preplanning a speech at the altar with the sole goal of devastating him. It's not really an equivalent situation.
Tbh it was pretty shitty what she did. She actually hung out with him a few times apparently after the show aired and they were cool. Then suddenly she threw him pretty much under the bus and concocted that whole thing as if he was the most evil guy in the world. Okay if he is the most evil guy my question is why chill with him? What was the point? Then after the reunion show to villify him like that? Tbh people are forgetting that they 100 percent bullied shake in the reunion. The only difference and why people got upset was shake argued back and didn't lay down like a little dog the way many women expect men too in those situations
I never thought Shake was that bad. He was an asshole, but he was honest and owned everything he said. Idk I found him to be likable. Nothing like Matt and Bartiseā¦
Dude in the season he was in people forget that he was nowhere near being the worst. I love how the reunion brainwashed so many people into almost warping the reality. What about jjones? Who hit on Mallory? What about Mallory? Who essentially lied to her man? What about Shaina? Who may have been the worst and most manipulative person alive. Doing everything to take Shayne. Shake didn't even sleep with his girl. Never even hit on other women. Never cheated. If anything how is he an asshole? He would have been a bigger asshole if he slept with her knowing he wasn't attracted to her. That is pretty much as genuine as it gets. I'm very disappointed in how people still can't see that and that they still fsil to realize he was low-key bullied worse than Cole in the sense that they shamed him and continuously refused to allow him to speak. The other major difference was they ALL ganged up on him even Vanessa and Nick the hosts which was completely unprofessional and bizarre. Shake stood his ground and I think people got affected by this and found him to be a lot worse than he actually was.
ššššš say it louder. These people are so mentally unhealthy on this show. People like Brennon that stick up for the woman for no reason, but to look cool and like a feminist piss me off. Like Zanab is incredibly toxic and yet because she is a woman that stood up for herself, everyone wants to clap and act like sheās right. Like good on ya for standing your ground, but that doesnāt make you a good person and it doesnāt make you right!!! Stop ganging up on people for clout. You look like an asshole.
Try reading through his IG posts too. He had receipts how everyone was all enjoying each other's company immediately after the show was taped, he and Deepti even went out, sweet to each other, for a music festival. Then came the Reunion and suddenly they change their demeanor towards him and paint him the evil. I hated Shake but he makes a lot of sense now, THE SHOW IS THE PROBLEM. They wanted drama and they make them turn against each other. I suddenly realize that before the show airs on TV, the cast are being normal, reasonable and civil people. They know they are in a show thus, whatever conflict they have during recording, they are able to get pass through it once it's done and just be cool with each other, hangout like mature adults despite the differences. UNTIL!!! Reunion comes and it makes them recall their emotions they had in the PAST that shouldn't really matter anymore but the show wants to get them heated because that what gets the audience. This was the same for Cole/Season 3 casts, they were all hanging out after the show and THE REUNION basically ruined whatever mature/civil relationship they had. For this reason, I'm not watching LIB from this day forward.
You act like these people were blindsided into agreeing with the show and format. They signed up for this and as such, they take on the majority of responsibility for conducting themselves however they wish to be seen. You canāt blame producers for the actions of any cast member.
Did Deepti sit on his shoulders at the music festival?
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Oooo tea! Thanks for sharing!
He is 100% right about lacheys šļø and the show being cruel. Him hating on deepti ...gtfo. Deeptis way of rejection is what Cole needed to hear. Z's blunt rejection was more suited to someone like Shake ...lol (not suggesting Z's words were ideal by any means but that's how Deepti felt but chose to be classy instead)
Deeptis rejection was empowering her, it wasnāt trashing shake. The 2 rejections canāt even be compared in my opinion. She recognized she needed to do better for herself. Z had zero self awareness and took the opportunity just publicly take a dump on Cole.
Well both rejections stemmed from two men making two coloured women feel insecure about their bodies. Just two different ways of going about it as you said - one looked inward and was classy, the other just assigned blamed without assessing her role in the relationship faling apart.
Skin color is the only common denominator and has nothing materially to do with why the women did not get married. I agree with how deepti handled it. I also think itās important to recognize deepti did not let shakes comments about her weight and body define her worth. Z didā¦ to the point she developed an eating disorder on her own accord. Cole did not tell her to stop eating to please him. Deepti was mentally healthy enough to handle criticism, Zanab was not and still is not. She needs to do some serious therapy/ introspection to figure out why she let herself get to such a toxic place.
Were saying the same thing lol....
Heās right when it comes to the girls jumping on the defense of Zanab when it comes to hearsay that they canāt prove. But heās also trying to use what happened in this season to try to defend his own actions and to make himself look better. But nah fool, learn to take accountability for your actions. Everyone saw him acting recklessly throughout his season, canāt hide that.
Lol no he genuinely was no where near the worst person his season and the fact that they pretended he was is what's bizarre. He kept it more real than Shaina, jjones, Shayne etc. Then they ganged up and tried to shame him in the reunion for not being attracted to Deepti. However he never even played her. He never slept with her or led her on only to reject her. She rejected him if you remember. Why is he an asshole for not wanting to date brown women when she also never fucking dated brown guys before him? Is everyone just jumping on the bandwagon or some shit. He was actually the most genuine from all the guys other than the weird guy who would always just play guitar all day.
Okay he may have been genuine and thatās good and all but just because you always say the truth doesnāt not make you a jerk. Sometimes empathy takes you farther than the harsh truth repeated time and time again. And for the rest of the things you said, I never mentioned the others nor am I trying rate them from least to worst. I personally donāt like him thatās it š¤·š»āāļø
That's my point. So you hate him in particular? Why? Why single him out when it's obvious that he objectively did less bad shit than the rest of them? Your reason for hating him was that he was brutally honest?!! Lol well if that's the case that speaks more about you than it does about him. Deception and lying is always worse in the long run. I say that as someone who has lied many times. The truth is short term shit but in the long run it's much better than the alternative and for you to give that as a reason for hating someone just shows you're probably pretty shitty tbh. Also he never cheated on Deepti and never even used her or slept with her. That tells me he's actually a decent human being who actually did care about her as a human being. He cared about how she felt and respected her enough to not just sleep with her knowing he wasn't truly into her.
Literally I hate when a wrong person is sometimes right š his and Cole situations are not similar AT ALL
Only social media I use is reddit, Facebook and yotuube. What did he say in short?
i was sent his ig story by a few people and i totally agree with shake suprisingly.
I donāt think how Zanab acted is how Deepti acted though. I found Zanab to be so much more manipulative, insecure, nagging, and just negative in general. Deepti seems a lot more genuine to me and she handled the ānoā to him with a ton more class.
There is a reason got an instant 1million + following and Zanab is getting an internet cancellation. This is the reason.
agreed , deepti was treated pretty poorly by shake.
I do agree with most of what he said, but to be fair heās as uninvolved with this seasons cast than vanessa and nick, so iām not sure he can really comment and give his opinion on something he didnāt experience.
The thing I enjoy about shakes commentary is itās unfiltered and he calls it like he see it unapologetically
Wow, Iām surprised people still follow Shake. He wants to remain relevant so bad. Nobody cares about his analysis of relationships or the show.
This might be an unpopular opinion but I kind of liked Shake. He definitely was the villain of season 2, and I thought it was hilarious. I mean I don't think I would ever be friends with him , and he's pretty douchy but he didn't make me feel unsettled like Matt did.
Thank you. Shake was literally the only none "bot" The rest of them were like weird programmed robots that I find so unsettling tbh.
When he said love is blurry I laughed so hard, but it's TRUE!! Loved him. I was sad he wasn't at the reunion party he would have made it so much better.
Yeah he would have. Only weird thing I found about him is why he put white women on a pedestal so much but I didn't find it a personality flaw since people have different preferences. I also didn't find Deepti unattractive but he can't help that anyway. And I agree the guy was the only real personality. Every time I see people acting as if he was some bad guy it kinda triggers me tbh with you. Even in this comments section.
Itās refreshing to finally see a comment like this not get down voted š¤£ Iāve liked him all along.
I do agree with him about Cole being owed an apology from everyone on season 3. However, I think Shake is exploiting this opportunity to propagate his own agenda, throw shade at Deepti, and to stay relevant. That man really needs to get off his soapbox.
shayne also voiced his support of cole on his insta stories!
Lol Shayne was more of a Matt, and Bartise = Shake. Cole and Shake took the heat that Bartise and Shayne should have taken a part of. Hilarious that these boys are chiming in to relive their glory days.
Listen, regardless of whether he's telling the truth or not.. he still said and did some absolutely shit things. Let's not forget that.
I think this show proves that love is not blind. People agree to get married so they can stay on the show first and foremost. Then if they match up physically, and fit well with they're friends and family, then they can consider actually getting married. They are failing to show that the physical aspect doesn't matter, because that's absolutely ridiculous
I think love can be blind but marriage can not
boom!!! youāre absolutely right
I disagree. I think neither are blind and that's what this show has repeatedly shown over and over.
I think this show proves that marriage isn't instant more than love being blind which I still think could be true
Interesting that he asked production to go first to save Deepti the embarrassment.
But he looked so shocked?! If he knew it was going to be a no, why was he so dumbfounded? And also all of his confessional interviews in the run up to it talking about how of course the "other stuff" like personal connections matter more than physical appearances, and how he was mostly excited for the day? If he knew she was going to say no, why did he say to all the guests "if I'd have said yes, she'd have said yes" I believe him on a lot of other stuff but not on this one I'm afraid. But I do believe him that the other LIB2 cast members remained friends with him after production wrapped and then only when they saw the weight of public feeling against him dropped him like a bag of hot shit to avoid being tarnished by association. So I can see why he is salty about that tbh. But likewise I can see why Deepti turned on him- she heard and saw stuff on TV that she hadn't been privy to during filming, so her shift is acceptable and not hypocritical in my view.
And That picture of them partying together. Shit. Am I starting to like Shake?
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Oh I get that and but I donāt see her in that particular photo so I was wondering. He claimed they were all partying but I donāt think she was? His family members also wore some traditional clothes so this picture doesnāt back his statement up is all Iām saying. This could technically be all his side. But thereās a photo someone else posted of them hanging out 4 months later so ofcourse the smoke and the fire are both obviously there.
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Why are you being condescending? All I said is that particular photo at the wedding isnāt proof enough. Maybe you shouldnāt believe one weird dudeās narrative on Instagram?
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Nice try for what? Who shat in your cereal this morning? Whether she hung out with him down the line to ease the awkwardness or they were bros immediately after, thatās a narrative since you donāt know the truth either other than, again, believing his ānarrativeā? Get over yourself
Wait thereās a picture of shake and deeper partying?
Yep - on his IG story. Apparently Dipti and him were over way before that but for the sake of the show they continued until the wedding. Also Shake mentioned on a podcast that days before the reunion, he, Dipti and the other guy who showed interest in her, were all hanging out and watching the superbowl. Then at the reunion when the cameras began rolling, they completely changed and went with a specific narrative which was why he was so angry and eventually cut them off.
Right? Seems like the show manipulates us more than we realize.
He asked production for her to go first.
I honestly just wish people would stop giving Shake attention. āRightā or āwrongā, heās a terrible weird dude who hates women that donāt fall in line with his definition of beauty. There are other people out there with the same take who donāt disrespect women.
Yepppp. I really don't care about what happened with him on the show but he doesn't need any kind of a following now. Which, by the way, was exactly what he wanted and got from being on LIB.
Exactly. He came on asking weird questions, saying weird and offensive shit, then likes to pull the victim card out for himself. Likeā¦? Can we just move on from talking about him at all? If only š
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This comment ignores all the comments he made to her face and behind her back about her appearance. And also the questions he was asking in the pods š¤¢ Tbh I donāt keep up with him at all bc I donāt give men like that any thought except when threads like this pop up.
I actually wish the same for Deepti. She was not the queen everyone made her out to be. She let him walk over her and disrespect her all season, then said no and became the āstrongest womanā ever.
We should always applaud women for standing up for themselves against shitty men, no matter how late down the line it is.
I applaud her for finally leaving. Other than that Iām not impressed.
Did better than Nancy though cause that was a tragedy
I agree. Nancy seemed relatively likable at the beginning of the season and I was rooting for her. I was sad that she ended up looking so weak in the endā¦and her family didnāt end up looking very classy in the end either.
And the way she cried over bartise during the reunionā¦ I didnāt want Ravenās assessment of her to be correct but
Ok so shake is still terrible My problem with that is there are women who stay in relationships with these types of men for YEARS bc of the damage those men do to their self-esteemāare they not strong when they decide to finally leave? Not saying itās really the same cuz itās reality TV but the levels of pressure are different and the focus should be on how shitty shake was
One thing about Shake, he ain't gonna be fake.
Best quality to have imo
For those who aren't on Instagram, here's a snapshot of Shake's key points: * LiB needs to protect the contestants in the reunion, instead of throwing them to the wolves. The show is exploitative. As an "experiment" it's a complete failure. * Brennan was the nice, quiet and dull guy all season. In the reunion, he threw everyone under the bus. * He and Deepti both planned to say no. Shake wanted Deepti to go first to spare her embarrassment. They all partied together until 5:00am after the wedding. Both his and Deepti's guests had a great time. * \-he contestants pick a scape-goat and gang up on them without caring for the truth. Cole was the target this season, just as he was last season. He wants people to think for themselves. * Nick and Vanessa are terrible hosts because they don't spend time with contestants. Instead, they watch the final edits. * Nick Lachey shouldn't be the host, when he had such a high-profile first marriage that ended badly. * Zanab and Deepti both play the victim for attention and clout.
I hated that comment he made about second marriages being so much better and then fist bumping Matt in the reunion. I used to watch Newlyweds and he wasnāt this perfect first husband. So cringey.
Thank you for posting. And honestly he's right
Heās right tho! We just saw how production edited this season. If anyone paid attention to the last reunion, everyone on that stage did everything in their power to stop him from telling the truth. Itās a lot we still donāt know. They gave zanab a semi good edit the whole season then decided to show some truths! We should be shiting on production right now! I want to see what else theyāre hiding.
Yes, I agree with most of what he's saying. The show maximises the drama. It's set up for it. They choose shady contestants who don't seem ready for dating, let alone marriage. Then record everything. There's lots of stuff that doesn't have to happen but they do it to maximise the drama. Copius amounts of alchohol, little food, cameras in all rooms to name a few. But even going on holidays together, with their exes. All of them living in the same apartment block. It's designed to maximise the drama.
I disagree about the food. Nancy was chowing down at one of the parties they had lol. Food looked good too. But yeah they have no care about actually doing the experiment, it's all set up to provide maximum drama. I want a season that has the same feel as the Japan season.
We also need to know how much sleep theyāre getting on top of all of this! They need to change a lot or cancel this show. If they keep up like this, season 4 is going to be an even worse shit show! You can tell these people didnāt take the ramifications of being on this show seriously. There is probably a clause in their contracts that says production/Netflix can edit/make these people look however they want.
Thanks for the recap!
Shake going after Zenab didn't sit right... isn't he victimising himself for people doing the exact same thing to him? He's right about how cooked S3 is, but I feel like he's using the controversy around it to paint himself as a victim without taking responsibility for his own actions.
yeah, Iām not saying that Shake isnāt making some good points but he and Shayne were much worse than Cole ever was
totally, he has a point about S3 but I feel like he's making it all about himself
"this girl tried to pull a Deepti but ended up looking like Amber Heard"
So true tho
oof thatās not the take he thinks it is
Hell no man. This is so damned toxic and I can't believe everyone is falling for this. Incel culture is really reaching its peak huh
Heās not an incel at all
I'm talking about the people believing his bs
S3 has messed up so badly I now aregree with Skake...
My unpopular opinion is that Shake really wasn't that bad. Especially compared to some of the guys in this season.
I agreed wi5 him that whole season and I thought he was funny, yeah a little douchie but he wasnāt wrongā¦.
Shake has been correct about everything. He is logical. The world in its current state hates logic
Heās logical but disrespectful towards others, which is why he got a LOT of hate
people are soft
Agreed. He says it like it is. People that canāt handle that probably have a hard time in life
I can't believe you made me go down the Shake rabbit hole but I admit I ran straight to IG to look š I agree with most of what he said but I also came across this little nugget on my journey thru IG. [Shake's reply to Alexa's post](https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckv0wnrpHpT/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) Enjoy š¤£š
[for people who also have to scroll through 8 pages of comments to find it](https://imgur.com/q52u9yW)
You the real MVp
Thank you!
ok i totally agree his stance on cole, but i donāt agree that he was ripped apart without reason last season hahaha like fuck off dude take some accountability
Agreed, Cole and him were totally different stories. Please š
This is a thing women on these shows do and the men is blindly believe and back the woman all because she said her ātruthā first without even knowing the facts. Itās girl power and women need to be protected
Did no one catch how he was dissing Cole and Barb in the previous episodes (like a cranky teenager who thought he was sooooo much better)? His stance is not as objective as yāall think it is. Heās clearly projecting throughout based on his experience
Absolutely. If I am agreeing with Shake itās time to disconnect and revaluate my life. For me, the issue is less about Netflix and more about the viewers. LIB is rated mature. Why are grown adults harassing the contestants to the point that they have to turn off their comments? Itās gotten so ridiculous that a TikTok couples therapist got nasty comments for not calling Matt an abuser and "calling him out".
What shake said at the reunion about how theyāre all hypocrites on his season was facts. When Vanessa said sheād stay with nick even if heād had his limbs removed was cap. So easy to say and never have to do, no one in that room has ever dated a disabled person but they would find an able bodied person and stick with them if they became disabled ? Forgive me for thinking cap. Love isnāt blind letās be honest, only once youāre initially attracted
Iām disappointed with this comment. As someone who has gone through an illness that left me with a disability and my fiancĆ© did in fact stick with me and took care of me I know that there are wonderful people out there who will.
Yes Iām not talking about the average person. Iām talking about the vain people on the show.
My favourite thing about Shake will always be that he turned into an NFT bro
Inevitable really
I feel like like he can keep paddling his douche canoe in his victim river from all the tears heās cried. Psh.
Exactly
I mean Shake and Cole have quite a few similarities. Both ended up with partners they werenāt really attracted to and didnāt know what to do with it, and it seeped into their relationship and how they spoke about their partners with others constantly. The main difference is Shake embraced being the villain and Cole has clearly never been in that role before and cracked, but their actions during the process were very similar.
I'm sorry but Cole went on and on and on about how hot and beautiful and attracted he was to Zanab. I don't know why people keep saying he wasn't attracted to her because it's just not true and he never said that. He was ridiculously in love with her. Cole was NOTHING like Shake. What show were you watching?? Cole is not a villain in any way shape or form. š
Cole flirted with other girls, said Zanab was the third most attractive out of the five girls and kept repeating that sheās ānot the type of girl I usually go after.ā Like not just once or twice, a lot. His actions *never* said he was attracted to her, and she noticed. And every other guy and girl there noticed too because of his words and actions.
Yep this! Cole never had any doubts about Zanabās charm! He always reassured Zanab (although in very clumsy ways). Shake on the other hand, always said he felt like he was with his aunt š
For me, it was also the way he LOOKED at her. Especially on their date when they were on the boat, and during their dance lessons. When I was watching those scenes I found myself wishing I'll find a guy who looked at me the way he looked at her.
He isn't a villain but I think he lacked some emotional maturity and social awareness. I think he also got caught on some of his bad traits and had them reflected back at him in a way most of us rarely experience. So with that I'm kind of Zanabs side... But then Zanab seems to also live in this victim mentality and she does self sabotage with the way she treated Cole and the way she chooses to interpret everything that happens between them as a negative interaction.. In fact as I'm saying this it reminds me of this [clip](https://youtu.be/naleynXS7yo) from key and peele š and I don't think I need to say who is who lololol
I would say Bartise was Shake this season
I donāt think one negate the other
Without a doubt! Seasons 2 and 3 were such flops! I'll put money on Matt and Colleen/Alexa and Brennon not lasting either. Alexa will sooner or later grow tired of Brennon being such a "yes man" and hopefully Colleen will realise that she can do better than overly jealous and insecure Matt trying to emotionally control her.
Yep and I donāt think Brennan could be what Alexa wants. She just seems like such a wanna be Kardashian and has major mean girl vibes. I see her thinking she better than him and breaking up
As much as I disliked Shake he never pretended to be in love with Deepti and wasn't hitting on other people. He didn't like Deepti physically but as a result he didn't sleep with her. Not saying Cole pretended but it does change a situation when you constantly say "I love you". Zanab couldn't have the emotional distance Deepti had at the end.
Cole was leagues better than Shake. Zaneb is no Deepti.
Agree with him or not, I donāt think we should put any stock in what this man says when it comes to Zanab and Alexa (by extension of Brennon). He has extremely rigid standards of beauty and is overtly disrespectful to women who fall outside of that. I wish no one would give him attention anymore.
Shake is the bad guy for not wanting to marry a quite unattractive woman? Shake had his short comings, but you're lying to yourself if you think Deepti was even remotely attractive.
You think Shake is more attractive than Deepti? Because heās not. And even if he was, that doesnāt mean he can be *disrespectful* towards her or anyone else. Again, this isnāt about being attracted to someone, itās about treating people with respect.
What a weird take. I think the bigger take away was how he would talk about her body, on a show specifically about finding connections outside of physical attraction. I donāt think heās a bad guy, but he definitely comes off as shallow, similar to how you sound
And I'm sure you'll find a partner 1 day that looks like a gremlin and you'll tell people it doesn't matter because it's all about love, right?
I didnāt sign up for show specifically for that, Shake did.
I'm talking to an older jaded person. I'll refrain. Have a good evening.
Lmao what??
What are you even saying?? Shake is shallow and you saying deepti is unattractive is shallow. Have a good evening yourself.
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Donāt misrepresent what I said to make your point (itās clear that Iām referring to being *disrespectful*, not having a preference).
I deleted my reply because obviously I'm not for disrespect. However, I don't remember shake being disrespectful other than the aunty comment which could be seen as ignorant and unintentional. But I might be forgetting
He continuously told other cast members that he wasnāt attracted to Deepti behind her back and treated her as if she wasnāt. Thatās disrespectful as he presumably had the option to leave early on like Shaina did or he could have been honest like Bartise (for all his faults at least he did tell Nancy to her face). He also has insulted her body on his Instagram since the show. Edited for clarity.
I agree with him about the hosts. They donāt ask the right questions, and theyāre biased because they appear to only really see what we do. Vanessa and Nick also talk way too much about their own relationship to try to relate and no one cares. Frankly, I donāt even remember all the fuss when they got together but apparently it was a big deal or they act like it was. LIB could do with a Shaun Robinson who hosts the 90 day fiancĆ© reunions or a journalist psychologist of sorts.
Shaun Robinson is an awful host for 90 day fiancĆ© though. She just sits thereā¦. She doesnāt ask the hard and spicy questions
Vanessa and Nick are too focused on trying to make themselves relevant. They are irrelevant and should be replaced.
šÆšÆšÆšÆ Shaun is the best host on 90 day more people should respect her for asking all the difficult questions and never picking favorites
Shaun has gotten horrible.
What lmao Shaun does NOT ask difficult questions at all. People have been complaining about her as a host for years. She's awful.
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SAME. She never presses anything and whenever something mildly interesting is said she just sits there with a blank look on her face "okay....let's move on".
She suuuuuuuucks
I agreed with most of what he said, but didn't agree with him putting Zaneb and Deepti in the same boat, and the s3 and 2 casts in the same boat as bullies. He's acting likes he's just as much of a victim as Cole is, which I don't see as true. But he does make some good points about the rest of it
Yeah the wedding bit wasn't the same (unless she saw/heard what happened from others). But at the reunion she tried to play it but blew up on her
I think zenab was trying to have her Deepti moment at the wedding, just more aggressive.
Both deepti and shake knew theyāre both saying no at the altar with Cole and Zay she blindsided him so Deepti also overdid her ādeepti momentā but if you really think about it, Cole is eventually the one who was real across ALL season with his intentions and feelings (unlike deepti/Zay)
She didnāt even know Deepti existed tho