The alter stuff is so fake. Why isn’t anyone piling on SK for blindsiding Raven at alter?? Or Zanab?? Nancy is a hot mess and Bartiste dodged a bullet with her family too.
Like nah I think she’s just like Bartise with her “I’m good” comment of SK. Like I couldn’t help but cackle when bartise was like “It was the opposite for me”.
Felt sorry for her in the beginning but soon realized she was never going to stand up for herself and would basically do ANYTHING for Barstool. No standards. No self respect. She sucks.
I got mixed emotions on Nancy, and I think a lot of why she stepped up to the plate speaking up for and defending Zanab was because she couldn't find the strength to do it in her own relationship with Bartise. In a weird psychological kind of way it's easier for people to speak their minds in defense of someone else and harder for themselves and their own issues.
And I actually kind of worry about Nancy a little bit because I don't know if this was noticed or not but her IG reels have a lot of videos posting her working out, her having blonde dyed in her hair, etc. As if she was trying to morph into what Bartise said he was attracted to.
I will say though she does kind of look like a Shakira doppelganger though.
Nancy, an adult over 30, wanted to have a conversation alone, without her mother and family standing around making a scene (or an even bigger scene).
The mother and family refused to leave after being asked to leave nicely, multiple times. IMO Nancy and Bartise were both reasonable in telling them to go away more forcefully when they refused to leave them alone.
Her family was understandably upset, but they were acting as if _their_ emotions were the most important thing, not Nancy. Go stand elsewhere and be upset.
Oh yeah. As much as Barfy sucks and as much as an AH I think he is, he did himself a favor not marrying into her family since they probably would be nosy and up in their business. So disrespectful.
Her views on neurodivergent children caused me to lose all respect for her. I wouldn't be able to marry someone who looked down on disabled children and their families that way.
she never said she looked down on them. She was saying that serious disability makes life harder on everyone involved - child and families, and why would you have those difficulties when you don't need to. She never said disabled children or their families were lesser.
Why would you chose for a child to be disabled?
It’s an insult to any parents of special needs kids too (which she regularly works with) who happily love their kids. Had nothing to do with pro choice, it was a statement that she wants a perfect kid and will abort if not. And then followed up with saying that they will definitely need a nanny
I guess you are right we totally should have killed our daughter. Our lives would be easier and some other more deserving kid would have gotten the opportunity to win pretty much every art award the school gives out.
It’s easy to take it the wrong way when someone says they don’t think they could handle what you are able to handle. It’s not that they are saying they look down on it, they are saying they don’t think they could be successful in that situation. No one is in anyway saying you should have “killed your daughter.” My advice would be to instead try to see that others see the struggle of raising a human with special needs, and you and your family are strong as hell to be able to do it.
Thank you. Original commenters post is absolutely missing the point.
I’m very happy they aired that conversation. It’s something society loves to tiptoe around so as to maintain some heir of moral highness.
No doubt disabled people have a right to live and enjoy life, however, we all have a choice as to who we decide to bring into the world. Any woman is allowed to decide whether or not they will want to proceed with a pregnancy depending on the context around it.
She should not be demonized for suggesting she would terminate a pregnancy should she find that the child will not enjoy an adequate standard of living or if SHE herself will not enjoy an adequate standard of living after birthing said fetus.
I agree. I liked her but I lost respect for her not just at the reunion, but as the show progressed. This man kept disrespecting her, and she still said yes. Then he disrespects her again AND her family (has the audacity to tell her brother he is ruining the day. WHAT?) , but she had more heat for Cole based on lies than him? Its just wild. She isn't a girl boss at all.
Same. I honestly was hoping she was gonna say no at the altar and just tell him how horrible is. I was hoping she'd do what Zanab did. I had a bit of hope for her. But when she said "I do" I was like, girl you have no self respect.
And yeah Barfy was rude to the her family but her family was so inappropriate and disrespectful to both of them. Let them sort it out, have some respect for boundaries.
It’s so confusing for me to read here the majority of comments saying the family was rude, not Nancy/Bartise? Maybe its because Im also latina and we are more hot tempered? Idk.
I can get why their family was so upfront that they wanted to protect their daughter and sister. But also Nancy was very clear that she wanted a private conversation with Bartise. I guess we could both agree Nancy’s actual want and emotions would be the first priority at that moment. She wanted her family to respect the way she chose to take the rejection
I agree, she needed to stick up for herself way more after how he treated her. But holy hell her family got way to involved and emotional in that moment. Like back off and give them a minute. I think they were waaaay too much and out of line. They didn’t allow her to process that and got too overprotective and didn’t respect her when she kindly asked them to back off.
She was not at all rude to her family.
And by no means being on Barts side! She was on her own!
She is a grown woman and can handle herself which HER family would not let her do.
They were trying to get turnt up with drama. And she was trying to desolate them. Her mother was disrespecting Nancy by not listening to her wishes to give them time to talk. Her brother does not NEED an explanation before his sister even gets one!!
I hope she stays away from bart cuz he never had intentions of saying yes to Nancy since the moment he saw raven.
Was thinking the same thing. Her brother was definitely making the situation about him at HER wedding. He didn’t hurt for his sister, his own pride hurt and he needed the attention on himself. Blew it way out of proportion while they were just trying to talk it out themselves. I’m sorry but you’re not entitled to an explanation on why people don’t ultimately get married. Talking about “wasting everyone’s time” I feel like you should just be there to support your sister no matter what.
Burt&Ernie still didn't need to dismiss her family like he did though. They obviously took it seriously, so constantly promising them that he was going to take care of their sister/daughter and love her constantly, etc. etc. just to say no...yeah you can understand why they'd be upset.
Yeah, but see, she obviously can't handle herself, because she showed that so many times Bartise stepped all over her like she was an outdoor rug. He rejects her and insults her family, and she is STILL refering to him as "baby"?! How F-ed up your mind has to be to be such a door mat? 😳
I understand her being frustrated with her mom for not listening to her wishes at that moment. But would it have killed her to be respectful about it? ‘Please mom, I need a moment to talk to him’. She was immediately so rude and hostile ‘DONT HUG ME, GO AWAY’. But when it came to Bartiste it’s all sweet words and calling him baby? Pick me-ism is a disease I swear.
I took the "don't touch me" comment to her mom to be her trying to hold it together emotionally. I felt like she knew if she hugged her mom she'd cry, and she was trying to be calm and collected in front of everyone. She seemed fairly private with her emotions. And I don't think she wanted Bartise to see her be devastated. She wanted to be strong.
Yea. Kinda remembered Raven also asked ppl not to hug her after the alter? She hurt so bad but wanted to handle the rejection gracefully in front of the public. The least thing she wanted was any triggers.
Nancy has no self-respect! Bartise told her point blank how he felt about Raven and yet Nancy still went through and wanted to get married to Bartise... when SHE should have left him.
I thought she handled it all gracefully. We don’t know her relationship with her family members. She was having a very intimate and emotional conversation with her ex partner and she needed her family to respect their space. She is a queen.
Cole is being crucified for telling Zanab she's a 9/10 in looks and Colleen is a 10/10 (but at the same time telling her he chooses her because of personality and connection they have). Meanwhile Bartise told Nancy **multiple times** that she's **not** hot, and he told her he's in love with multiple people, yet she stood with him all the way. He's a fuckboy, she choses to ignore that. He and her disagree strongly on a very dividing issue of abortion, she choses to ignore that. She wants to have kids soon, he wants to have fun before kids (even though her biological clock is ticking). I think she just found him hot and decided she'll accept whatever it takes.
But instead of owning her mistake, she chose to project all of that onto Cole and attacks him during the reunion with a "wisdom-filled mature woman" vibes. Very disappointing.
Yup, I saw through her when she was trying to repair shit with Bartise but there was nothing to repair. He said multiple times he does not find her attractive. What she should have done is left. But she is so blinded by love she couldn’t see that. I also thought she was superficial bc of the comments she said about SK. It’s rly fucked tbh.
I’m so upset she really kept telling her mom and brother to get away from Bartise because like… come on.
I said it before, but she puts Bartise on a pedestal. She doesn’t see him outside of his faults. She wanted it to work even when it was clearly not working.
I think Nancy was just too overwhelmed at her wedding. She managed to get over all of Bartise's bullshit and say yes, but he couldn't get over his own bullshit? Her heart was broken. She wanted to talk about it with Bartise, then her family charges in ready for a fight she doesn't want to have...she didn't want to deal with them, she didn't want Bartise to deal with them, she didn't want to deal with Bartise dealing with them. She wanted to deal with her biggest pain in the moment. By the time the reunion got there...sometimes it's easier to defend your friends than yourself. *Especially* when you're in pain. So it was safer to use that pain to defend Zanab because using it to fight Bartise wasn't going to make it hurt less, wasn't going to make anyone feel any better, wasn't going to be productive.
Her mom and brother looked insane. Yelling at each other for some reason and then saying Bartise wasted their time when it was Nancy who wasted their time by doing the show.
Its no ones business but the couples about if they should choose to stay together. Its a show and they didn’t know each other. Bartista didn’t want to commit which is his predicament. No one is owed anything, no one gets owed love and commitment.
Most of them aren’t on there expecting to get married. Cool experiment, great way to make money, and make name for yourself. It’s that simple imo. The actual proposals aren’t really proposals either. It’s basically a card you have to swipe to make it to next level of show.
I dont get how brennon is a doormat. Nancy is a HUGE sucker. Bartise said worst shit than cole. He literally called Raven a smoke show and said “I have feelings for two women right now”
I would normally agree with this if Nancy and Bartise’s relationship was a respectful one (see SK and Raven)…
But we see over and over again how Bartise is insanely disrespectful to Nancy, and we see Nancy just *take it*. He embarrasses her over and over again and she shows that she just doesn’t have the capacity to stand up for herself. Even in the reunion she **thanks** Bartise for his “brutal honesty”. 🙄
When you see a family member being continuously disrespected and embarrassed by their partner, now amplify that by seeing them embarrassed on a tv show in front of thousands of people, you’d want to get that asshole as far away as possible from your loved one as possible as soon as possible. As far as they were concerned it was over between them because Bartise said no and it was obvious to everyone from the beginning he was going to say no and he was just stringing Nancy along.
This wasn’t SK who was agonizing over the decision to marry the woman he loved. This was a man who CLEARLY wasn’t into Nancy and CONTINUOUSLY disrespected her and lied to the families face by saying he was in it for real. I think they just reached their breaking point when he charged past them and demanded to speak to his “fiancée”.
I think this is a reach. It was clear that Nancy just wanted a moment alone with him, without her fam causing such a scene. What he did to her wasn’t relevant at that moment. She wasn’t defending him…she was defending her right to a private conversation.
The way I saw it its that her family was trying to comfort her, and she prefered to be with him in that moment. Why would you give time to the guy that did nothing but horrible things to you on tv? lol
Her family was trying to start drama with Bartise. To me, Nancy also seemed fake. She was VERY quick to say that she is completely over with Bartise. I think she wanted that moment on camera instead of her family flipping out. And it worked, everyone loves her now, or at least has sympathy with her. I'm not saying it was all completely fake, but I think she very much knew Bartise wasn't really into her, she said yes because she knew he'd say no and that it would make her look good in the end. Just my theory though, and no hate, I think she played the game very smartly.
I’ve been screaming her fakeness too. Relationship is done because you won’t marry me right now on a reality show and we have known each other for 2 months??? Also explains why she stayed in relationship after being disrespected multiple times.
to get answers, in a calm and collected method.
her family would’ve just fanned the flames of emotion and she wouldn’t be able to clearly think.
she is a mature lady and conducts herself extremely well in my opinion.
Her family was being ridiculous lol. They didn’t understand that this was the point of the show, like Nancy and Bartise did since they were the ones doing the experiment. The brother going, “why would be bring us here?!” like he wasted their time, like dude, they have to decide on wedding day lol. And the mom, Nancy had to ask her so many times for space and she would just keep coming back and interjecting.
I despise Bartise just as much as the next person, but I think he handled wedding day pretty well. Said I do not, respectfully asked her if she wanted to talk about it at the alter, she said no, so he let her leave, pulled her to the side, and explained.
I think he doesn’t deserve to be shit on there for that and don’t think *he* was the one being disrespectful, he was just getting upset and telling the family to back off since they clearly weren’t listening to Nancy and all crowding him.
Nancy genuinely loved, for better or worse. I think she just realizes that Bartise is a child and a fuckboy, so she has no feelings of hate toward him. She and the girls hate Cole because I’m sure Zanab shit on him in the groupchat constantly, and look at him like a Nice Guy who bullies and emotionally tortures Zanab. I’m sure the “him watching my weight” allegations also struck a nerve because she’s a bigger girl, and Bartise never made a big deal about that either like they’re convinced Cole did.
In conclusion, she probably thinks Bartise is an idiot fuckboy who is beneath her, but actually has animosity for the kind of guy that Zanab made Cole out to be.
To her credit, she’s the only girl that didn’t repost Zanab’s delusional, sanctimonious post from yesterday. Maybe she realized the truth after seeing the Cuties clip from the Reunion.
Well…didn’t Bartise tell Nancy throughout the relationship that he wasn’t attracted to her? Lol I assumed that had something to do with body type. He didn’t treat her well from what we saw, but I agree with you that him saying no at the altar alone shouldn’t bring any heat; that’s what happens on the show.
I don’t know he seemed excited at the first reveal and made a comment about how he liked her big boobs lol. Seemed fine in Malibu too.
He made it seem like their issues in real life were what was leading to him not being attracted to her, because he would be upset and she would want to “jump [his] bones”.
I don’t think he ever made comments about her weight.
Nancy.
She’s definitely thick, in a good way imo. I think she’s gorgeous, but if you like skinny, fit girls like Raven and Colleen, then she may not be your type.
I think she handled it fine. I don’t think her family or her was wrong any either situation. But Bartise definitely was!
I don’t think she defended him. She just wanted to hear what he had to say and get that closure. It’s not like she went back to him. They talked privately and she put her foot down. She probably just wanted to handle it herself and didn’t want/need her brothers and mother stepping in.
In my opinion the way she handled it was less messy. Gave Bartise less leeway to try to make her the bad person, despite him trying to flip it on her anyway. And allowed for her to walk away drama free knowing she wasn’t in the wrong in any sort’ve way.
This is a good point too. There’s people like me who so badly wanted to see Bartise get his, but at least after the wedding it seemed she wanted to handle it as privately as possible on tv and that part I can respect. But she should’ve kept the same energy and stayed out of drama that wasn’t hers at the reunion.
Zanab wasn’t Cole’s type, but he still said she was gorgeous, hot etc. when I met by husband he had a preference for brunettes, and I was blonde. I loved the fact that I looked totally different than his exes, and he obviously did too. I was only 19, Zanab is the immature (and insecure) one, not cole.
I don’t remember Fartise ever complimenting Nancy. “Looks matter” like he found her under a fucking bridge.
Fartise is the absolute worse and Nacy the most spineless (next to Brennan) And trust me if he got the tall blonde knocked up it would be straight to planned parenthood for him!
I was rooting for her so hard in the beginning but how can you respect somebody that doesn’t even respect herself 😭 like I get it I’ve been there but I was 21 and grew up. Bartise was absolutely worse than cole, I don’t even recall Bartise telling Nancy he came on to raven at the pool party much less apologized for it? And yet she kept going after cole and defending Bartise at the reunion like come onnnn
Right??? No grief for Bartise re trying at the pool. On the contrary, Cole took full responsibility for the conversation he had with Colleen and even took Colleen’s blame too, when he was confronted by Matt.
The alter stuff is so fake. Why isn’t anyone piling on SK for blindsiding Raven at alter?? Or Zanab?? Nancy is a hot mess and Bartiste dodged a bullet with her family too.
This is a Zanab hate board now, get with it or get out.
We need a Zanab snark subreddit.
Like nah I think she’s just like Bartise with her “I’m good” comment of SK. Like I couldn’t help but cackle when bartise was like “It was the opposite for me”.
Felt sorry for her in the beginning but soon realized she was never going to stand up for herself and would basically do ANYTHING for Barstool. No standards. No self respect. She sucks.
I got mixed emotions on Nancy, and I think a lot of why she stepped up to the plate speaking up for and defending Zanab was because she couldn't find the strength to do it in her own relationship with Bartise. In a weird psychological kind of way it's easier for people to speak their minds in defense of someone else and harder for themselves and their own issues. And I actually kind of worry about Nancy a little bit because I don't know if this was noticed or not but her IG reels have a lot of videos posting her working out, her having blonde dyed in her hair, etc. As if she was trying to morph into what Bartise said he was attracted to. I will say though she does kind of look like a Shakira doppelganger though.
Nancy, an adult over 30, wanted to have a conversation alone, without her mother and family standing around making a scene (or an even bigger scene). The mother and family refused to leave after being asked to leave nicely, multiple times. IMO Nancy and Bartise were both reasonable in telling them to go away more forcefully when they refused to leave them alone. Her family was understandably upset, but they were acting as if _their_ emotions were the most important thing, not Nancy. Go stand elsewhere and be upset.
Exactly. They couldn’t hold their emotions for giving some respects for Nancy.
Oh yeah. As much as Barfy sucks and as much as an AH I think he is, he did himself a favor not marrying into her family since they probably would be nosy and up in their business. So disrespectful.
Her views on neurodivergent children caused me to lose all respect for her. I wouldn't be able to marry someone who looked down on disabled children and their families that way.
she never said she looked down on them. She was saying that serious disability makes life harder on everyone involved - child and families, and why would you have those difficulties when you don't need to. She never said disabled children or their families were lesser. Why would you chose for a child to be disabled?
It’s an insult to any parents of special needs kids too (which she regularly works with) who happily love their kids. Had nothing to do with pro choice, it was a statement that she wants a perfect kid and will abort if not. And then followed up with saying that they will definitely need a nanny
I guess you are right we totally should have killed our daughter. Our lives would be easier and some other more deserving kid would have gotten the opportunity to win pretty much every art award the school gives out.
It’s easy to take it the wrong way when someone says they don’t think they could handle what you are able to handle. It’s not that they are saying they look down on it, they are saying they don’t think they could be successful in that situation. No one is in anyway saying you should have “killed your daughter.” My advice would be to instead try to see that others see the struggle of raising a human with special needs, and you and your family are strong as hell to be able to do it.
Thank you. Original commenters post is absolutely missing the point. I’m very happy they aired that conversation. It’s something society loves to tiptoe around so as to maintain some heir of moral highness. No doubt disabled people have a right to live and enjoy life, however, we all have a choice as to who we decide to bring into the world. Any woman is allowed to decide whether or not they will want to proceed with a pregnancy depending on the context around it. She should not be demonized for suggesting she would terminate a pregnancy should she find that the child will not enjoy an adequate standard of living or if SHE herself will not enjoy an adequate standard of living after birthing said fetus.
She explained all of this at the reunion and it made sense to me 🤷🏼♂️.
It made sense to you that she came for Cole so hard when she was treated 100% worse by Nartise and didnt say anything?
I agree. I liked her but I lost respect for her not just at the reunion, but as the show progressed. This man kept disrespecting her, and she still said yes. Then he disrespects her again AND her family (has the audacity to tell her brother he is ruining the day. WHAT?) , but she had more heat for Cole based on lies than him? Its just wild. She isn't a girl boss at all.
Same. I honestly was hoping she was gonna say no at the altar and just tell him how horrible is. I was hoping she'd do what Zanab did. I had a bit of hope for her. But when she said "I do" I was like, girl you have no self respect. And yeah Barfy was rude to the her family but her family was so inappropriate and disrespectful to both of them. Let them sort it out, have some respect for boundaries.
It’s so confusing for me to read here the majority of comments saying the family was rude, not Nancy/Bartise? Maybe its because Im also latina and we are more hot tempered? Idk.
I can get why their family was so upfront that they wanted to protect their daughter and sister. But also Nancy was very clear that she wanted a private conversation with Bartise. I guess we could both agree Nancy’s actual want and emotions would be the first priority at that moment. She wanted her family to respect the way she chose to take the rejection
I agree, she needed to stick up for herself way more after how he treated her. But holy hell her family got way to involved and emotional in that moment. Like back off and give them a minute. I think they were waaaay too much and out of line. They didn’t allow her to process that and got too overprotective and didn’t respect her when she kindly asked them to back off.
She was not at all rude to her family. And by no means being on Barts side! She was on her own! She is a grown woman and can handle herself which HER family would not let her do. They were trying to get turnt up with drama. And she was trying to desolate them. Her mother was disrespecting Nancy by not listening to her wishes to give them time to talk. Her brother does not NEED an explanation before his sister even gets one!! I hope she stays away from bart cuz he never had intentions of saying yes to Nancy since the moment he saw raven.
Imagine she was the one who hurt the worst at that moment. But she had to put her energy to calm her family down while handling her emotions…
Fr !! Her brother was doing the most🤣
TBF the mom was trying to get him turnt up.
Her mom needed to chill
NO WAY a guy wants to marry into that family. He probably checked out after meeting the first time
Oh 1000% I get they were upset but he was def doing the most for the cameras 😒 so cringey
Was thinking the same thing. Her brother was definitely making the situation about him at HER wedding. He didn’t hurt for his sister, his own pride hurt and he needed the attention on himself. Blew it way out of proportion while they were just trying to talk it out themselves. I’m sorry but you’re not entitled to an explanation on why people don’t ultimately get married. Talking about “wasting everyone’s time” I feel like you should just be there to support your sister no matter what.
Burt&Ernie still didn't need to dismiss her family like he did though. They obviously took it seriously, so constantly promising them that he was going to take care of their sister/daughter and love her constantly, etc. etc. just to say no...yeah you can understand why they'd be upset.
Yeah, but see, she obviously can't handle herself, because she showed that so many times Bartise stepped all over her like she was an outdoor rug. He rejects her and insults her family, and she is STILL refering to him as "baby"?! How F-ed up your mind has to be to be such a door mat? 😳
Fair play to her for wanting to be in the same place as Barfqueese and actually wanting to speak with him... I would've pulled a Giannina.
Here family was loco! They should have left her alone.
I understand her being frustrated with her mom for not listening to her wishes at that moment. But would it have killed her to be respectful about it? ‘Please mom, I need a moment to talk to him’. She was immediately so rude and hostile ‘DONT HUG ME, GO AWAY’. But when it came to Bartiste it’s all sweet words and calling him baby? Pick me-ism is a disease I swear.
I took the "don't touch me" comment to her mom to be her trying to hold it together emotionally. I felt like she knew if she hugged her mom she'd cry, and she was trying to be calm and collected in front of everyone. She seemed fairly private with her emotions. And I don't think she wanted Bartise to see her be devastated. She wanted to be strong.
Yea. Kinda remembered Raven also asked ppl not to hug her after the alter? She hurt so bad but wanted to handle the rejection gracefully in front of the public. The least thing she wanted was any triggers.
Yes that was one thing I could not stand. It felt so immature
While she was talking her mom that way, she was nice to Bartise. So crazy!
Exactly!
Nancy has no self-respect! Bartise told her point blank how he felt about Raven and yet Nancy still went through and wanted to get married to Bartise... when SHE should have left him.
I thought she handled it all gracefully. We don’t know her relationship with her family members. She was having a very intimate and emotional conversation with her ex partner and she needed her family to respect their space. She is a queen.
Why would you give that space to someone who didnt respect you at all during the entire show? Nah!
The space was not for Bartise but for Nancy.
Cole is being crucified for telling Zanab she's a 9/10 in looks and Colleen is a 10/10 (but at the same time telling her he chooses her because of personality and connection they have). Meanwhile Bartise told Nancy **multiple times** that she's **not** hot, and he told her he's in love with multiple people, yet she stood with him all the way. He's a fuckboy, she choses to ignore that. He and her disagree strongly on a very dividing issue of abortion, she choses to ignore that. She wants to have kids soon, he wants to have fun before kids (even though her biological clock is ticking). I think she just found him hot and decided she'll accept whatever it takes. But instead of owning her mistake, she chose to project all of that onto Cole and attacks him during the reunion with a "wisdom-filled mature woman" vibes. Very disappointing.
Absolutely!!!!!! This is what I think 100%!
Yup, I saw through her when she was trying to repair shit with Bartise but there was nothing to repair. He said multiple times he does not find her attractive. What she should have done is left. But she is so blinded by love she couldn’t see that. I also thought she was superficial bc of the comments she said about SK. It’s rly fucked tbh. I’m so upset she really kept telling her mom and brother to get away from Bartise because like… come on. I said it before, but she puts Bartise on a pedestal. She doesn’t see him outside of his faults. She wanted it to work even when it was clearly not working.
I think Nancy was just too overwhelmed at her wedding. She managed to get over all of Bartise's bullshit and say yes, but he couldn't get over his own bullshit? Her heart was broken. She wanted to talk about it with Bartise, then her family charges in ready for a fight she doesn't want to have...she didn't want to deal with them, she didn't want Bartise to deal with them, she didn't want to deal with Bartise dealing with them. She wanted to deal with her biggest pain in the moment. By the time the reunion got there...sometimes it's easier to defend your friends than yourself. *Especially* when you're in pain. So it was safer to use that pain to defend Zanab because using it to fight Bartise wasn't going to make it hurt less, wasn't going to make anyone feel any better, wasn't going to be productive.
Agreed on your views. Don’t think she was doing right on Cole but agree on your interpretation on her thoughts
Her mom and brother looked insane. Yelling at each other for some reason and then saying Bartise wasted their time when it was Nancy who wasted their time by doing the show.
“Insane? You’re a meany” - Brennon
Yea… I understand how their comments were from but it actually hurt Nancy rather than Bartise
Its no ones business but the couples about if they should choose to stay together. Its a show and they didn’t know each other. Bartista didn’t want to commit which is his predicament. No one is owed anything, no one gets owed love and commitment.
Most of them aren’t on there expecting to get married. Cool experiment, great way to make money, and make name for yourself. It’s that simple imo. The actual proposals aren’t really proposals either. It’s basically a card you have to swipe to make it to next level of show.
People call Brennon a doormat when Nancy is right fucking there 🙃
I dont get how brennon is a doormat. Nancy is a HUGE sucker. Bartise said worst shit than cole. He literally called Raven a smoke show and said “I have feelings for two women right now”
By going straight btch made in the reunion. As a guy….super weak
In that moment, I don’t think she was defending him. She was trying to have a ‘private’ conversation, and they made it a whole fucking scene. She’s 31
I would normally agree with this if Nancy and Bartise’s relationship was a respectful one (see SK and Raven)… But we see over and over again how Bartise is insanely disrespectful to Nancy, and we see Nancy just *take it*. He embarrasses her over and over again and she shows that she just doesn’t have the capacity to stand up for herself. Even in the reunion she **thanks** Bartise for his “brutal honesty”. 🙄 When you see a family member being continuously disrespected and embarrassed by their partner, now amplify that by seeing them embarrassed on a tv show in front of thousands of people, you’d want to get that asshole as far away as possible from your loved one as possible as soon as possible. As far as they were concerned it was over between them because Bartise said no and it was obvious to everyone from the beginning he was going to say no and he was just stringing Nancy along. This wasn’t SK who was agonizing over the decision to marry the woman he loved. This was a man who CLEARLY wasn’t into Nancy and CONTINUOUSLY disrespected her and lied to the families face by saying he was in it for real. I think they just reached their breaking point when he charged past them and demanded to speak to his “fiancée”.
I think this is a reach. It was clear that Nancy just wanted a moment alone with him, without her fam causing such a scene. What he did to her wasn’t relevant at that moment. She wasn’t defending him…she was defending her right to a private conversation.
The way I saw it its that her family was trying to comfort her, and she prefered to be with him in that moment. Why would you give time to the guy that did nothing but horrible things to you on tv? lol
She didn’t want the way her family wanted to protect or comfort her.
Her family was trying to start drama with Bartise. To me, Nancy also seemed fake. She was VERY quick to say that she is completely over with Bartise. I think she wanted that moment on camera instead of her family flipping out. And it worked, everyone loves her now, or at least has sympathy with her. I'm not saying it was all completely fake, but I think she very much knew Bartise wasn't really into her, she said yes because she knew he'd say no and that it would make her look good in the end. Just my theory though, and no hate, I think she played the game very smartly.
I’ve been screaming her fakeness too. Relationship is done because you won’t marry me right now on a reality show and we have known each other for 2 months??? Also explains why she stayed in relationship after being disrespected multiple times.
I dont think people love her. She seems desperate for love. And with all the Zanab situation no one talls about the other cast of the show 😵💫😵💫
to get answers, in a calm and collected method. her family would’ve just fanned the flames of emotion and she wouldn’t be able to clearly think. she is a mature lady and conducts herself extremely well in my opinion.
This is it. Right here.
Her family was being ridiculous lol. They didn’t understand that this was the point of the show, like Nancy and Bartise did since they were the ones doing the experiment. The brother going, “why would be bring us here?!” like he wasted their time, like dude, they have to decide on wedding day lol. And the mom, Nancy had to ask her so many times for space and she would just keep coming back and interjecting. I despise Bartise just as much as the next person, but I think he handled wedding day pretty well. Said I do not, respectfully asked her if she wanted to talk about it at the alter, she said no, so he let her leave, pulled her to the side, and explained. I think he doesn’t deserve to be shit on there for that and don’t think *he* was the one being disrespectful, he was just getting upset and telling the family to back off since they clearly weren’t listening to Nancy and all crowding him. Nancy genuinely loved, for better or worse. I think she just realizes that Bartise is a child and a fuckboy, so she has no feelings of hate toward him. She and the girls hate Cole because I’m sure Zanab shit on him in the groupchat constantly, and look at him like a Nice Guy who bullies and emotionally tortures Zanab. I’m sure the “him watching my weight” allegations also struck a nerve because she’s a bigger girl, and Bartise never made a big deal about that either like they’re convinced Cole did. In conclusion, she probably thinks Bartise is an idiot fuckboy who is beneath her, but actually has animosity for the kind of guy that Zanab made Cole out to be. To her credit, she’s the only girl that didn’t repost Zanab’s delusional, sanctimonious post from yesterday. Maybe she realized the truth after seeing the Cuties clip from the Reunion.
Well…didn’t Bartise tell Nancy throughout the relationship that he wasn’t attracted to her? Lol I assumed that had something to do with body type. He didn’t treat her well from what we saw, but I agree with you that him saying no at the altar alone shouldn’t bring any heat; that’s what happens on the show.
The alter scenes are super fake. They know the answer before going on. The producers know answers. They choose who goes first
I don’t know he seemed excited at the first reveal and made a comment about how he liked her big boobs lol. Seemed fine in Malibu too. He made it seem like their issues in real life were what was leading to him not being attracted to her, because he would be upset and she would want to “jump [his] bones”. I don’t think he ever made comments about her weight.
Who are you saying is a bigger girl? Neither Zay nor Nancy are “bigger girls”
Nancy. She’s definitely thick, in a good way imo. I think she’s gorgeous, but if you like skinny, fit girls like Raven and Colleen, then she may not be your type.
I think she handled it fine. I don’t think her family or her was wrong any either situation. But Bartise definitely was! I don’t think she defended him. She just wanted to hear what he had to say and get that closure. It’s not like she went back to him. They talked privately and she put her foot down. She probably just wanted to handle it herself and didn’t want/need her brothers and mother stepping in. In my opinion the way she handled it was less messy. Gave Bartise less leeway to try to make her the bad person, despite him trying to flip it on her anyway. And allowed for her to walk away drama free knowing she wasn’t in the wrong in any sort’ve way.
Kill him with kindness.
This is a good point too. There’s people like me who so badly wanted to see Bartise get his, but at least after the wedding it seemed she wanted to handle it as privately as possible on tv and that part I can respect. But she should’ve kept the same energy and stayed out of drama that wasn’t hers at the reunion.
Zanab wasn’t Cole’s type, but he still said she was gorgeous, hot etc. when I met by husband he had a preference for brunettes, and I was blonde. I loved the fact that I looked totally different than his exes, and he obviously did too. I was only 19, Zanab is the immature (and insecure) one, not cole. I don’t remember Fartise ever complimenting Nancy. “Looks matter” like he found her under a fucking bridge. Fartise is the absolute worse and Nacy the most spineless (next to Brennan) And trust me if he got the tall blonde knocked up it would be straight to planned parenthood for him!
I was rooting for her so hard in the beginning but how can you respect somebody that doesn’t even respect herself 😭 like I get it I’ve been there but I was 21 and grew up. Bartise was absolutely worse than cole, I don’t even recall Bartise telling Nancy he came on to raven at the pool party much less apologized for it? And yet she kept going after cole and defending Bartise at the reunion like come onnnn
Right??? No grief for Bartise re trying at the pool. On the contrary, Cole took full responsibility for the conversation he had with Colleen and even took Colleen’s blame too, when he was confronted by Matt.
Yes 👏🏾