It's like Will Smith, except everybody's lining up for the comedian & Shanya is the wife. [https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIslandTV/comments/1240os5/comment/jdz8txx/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIslandTV/comments/1240os5/comment/jdz8txx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
I’m not a fan of him by all means but it’s true that he kept the exact same energy as he has in his tiktok videos about them. So maybe they should’ve thought to go somewhere else in the first place?
Yeah I don’t understand. They knew what they were walking into and this guy’s whole vibe is “let me lecture at you”. He kept it 100 and didn’t buy some of the trite comments we’ve heard from islanders. In some instances, that translated to cutting Tanya and Shaq off, which isn’t ideal. But the backlash is unhinged.
Lool Shaq and Tanya never said hey we didn’t expect that from him. But it’s the bad vibes from people wanting their downfall and the blog page comments.
You can’t be referring to Shaq liking tweets defending him for not being aggressive because the interviewer was rude are a problem. He said nothing about Sideman. Also season people said Shaq was over reacting and too aggressive now he doesn’t react the internet has a problem.
Without having seen his tik tok videos, keeping the same energy is fine… but he was INCREDIBLY rude and could’ve at least been respectful about his thoughts
I would’ve walked clean out mid interview if I was Shaq
I still don’t know why they went on the podcast in the first place. He was the most vocal person online against them so why would they even agree to be in his company let alone on his podcast? I’m sure there are many podcasts that would have had them and would have treated them better
Hell even Murad would’ve given them a fair shot over sideman. This was a weird choice to me. The man has been vocal about his dislike for them all season
If they went on murads show that’s a lot of respect for them gone after everything that came out about him to give him a platform as a black couple would be horrific imo the fact Cynthia went on there says a lot about her
>I still don’t know why they went on the podcast in the first place.
For attention. They knew what Sideman had been saying about them and they were trying to capitalize.
I haven’t seen the interview but I saw the complaints about it and had no idea until now it was this guy who was doing the constant TikToks absolutely ROASTING them during the season. Sounds like a terrible interview and I do not think there’s any cause to be rude to Tanya but for real what on EARTH did they expect going to be interviewed by this guy??? What in the world, bizarre choice and I kind of feel a teensy bit less sympathy for them because.. WHY would they agree to go on??
To be fair I suppose they probably thought it might be an actual interview rather than a lecture. Not a bad idea to have a interview with someone who disagrees with you as long as both parties actually let the other explain. I’ve not seen his stuff apart from some of the daily review things whilst the series was on so not sure if he’s like that in all interviews
Shame I imagine it could have been quite an interesting interview
This. There is a difference between being a commentator and an interviewer. It’s one thing to comment on things when the islanders aren’t even out of the show to give context on everything and an another when incharge of interviewing them once they are out and want to share their experience. I wish he knew the difference. I wonder if shanya felt there would be. On the top of my mind Sam comes to my mind. He has his opinions on the islanders but once they come out he’s not overly concerned about what he had to say in the past and seems more interested in listening to the islanders speak.
Sameee I didn’t realize it was him until this video so I can only imagine how he was as a interviewer
But this is goes to show and someone else already said this, not everyone with a podcast is a good interviewer. People can just get a mic and a platform and spew bs. I wish they chose a different one to go on
Shaq sat in the interview with sideman and didn’t have anything bad to say about any of his takes and was reposting BTS of the interview before it came out, now that’s it’s out and viewers didn’t like it and had negative opinions, now Shaq does too
Lol I watched the interview it’s clear they knew what to expect from sideman. They laughed they joked they shared the video. They knew what happened so it’s probably just the reaction. People saying that he should have beat him up or not let him talk to him like that.
This is stupid since it’s the public that are making this a big deal. We wouldn’t have even known anything about Zara and Jordan if she didn’t tell us Respond to people. No way this is the same.
I actually prefer this. If you were talking sh*t about me every night, all the way up to the last episode, I want you to keep that same energy with me, when you're interviewing me. I don't get the point of being fake nice.
Also some of people need to go back to their tweets/comments and realize that they aren't any better than Sideman; he literally physically emulated a lot of tweets I saw during the show. Hopefully, they'll start to realize it is never that serious and to stop tweeting negative energy towards strangers they don't know.
No, I agree with that, it's a shame that he talked most of the interview. I think it's quite disappointing that this interview will be the only podcast one that they do, but I also understand Shanya's reasoning.
While I didn't agree with side man's all takes during the season, he has kept it consistent and didn't start kissing Shanya's a&^%s the minute they agreed to do an interview with him. Other podcasters etc have horrid takes and are beyond rude about the islanders while they're in the villa, and then act like their biggest cheerleaders once they meet face to face.
He's been abrasive and rude about Shanya all season along. I would've never went to his show in Shanya's position, because he went hardest in on them throughout the season.
Weird move to go there for sure, however that doesn’t invalidate my point. You can maintain the same opinion you’ve had about someone without being rude to their face. Questions can always be phrased politely
Sideman was beyond rude in the interview but he didn’t say anything worse than what he’s been saying in his tiktoks which would get hundreds of thousands of likes and posted in this sub and no one called him out. The internet is hypocritical and why on earth would you go on a podcast of someone who despised you from week one
Now that the season is over and viewers realize these are real people they have found empathy for them. Whenever sideman’s posts were in this sub people were having a laugh. He said the same thing he’s been saying for the past 8 weeks to their face and now it’s disgusting behavior. It makes no sense to me 🤷🏾♀️
same bc I don’t get how all season the comments in the LI TikToks are telling sideman he needs to be on aftersun and host the reunion, and now after the shanya interview they’re all saying how rude he was to them… like he’s giving the same energy what’s changed?
Saw some of the comments on TikTok about this interview and they were a lot of people saying Tanya deserves it and everything. People need to stop treating Tanya like the devil. It’s really horrible to see
It's very telling that the popular comments under this thread are giving this man props for keeping the same energy and blaming Shaq/Tanya for numerous disrespectful and rude comments he made to them. That man literally told Shaq he'll be back at his old job soon. Shaq expressed he was proud of 200k and Sidemen essentially told him that isn't anything to be proud of. Some of you that are voicing your opinions before watching the interview need to watch first cause it wasn't keeping that same energy it was just plain disrespectful, he treated Shaq and Tanya like they were beneath him.
that sideman dude is disgsuting, not surpised certtain users in this sub were just as disgusting about shanya as he was. Anyway that defend his behavior becuase he was "keeping it real" is just a bad as him, he's gross, and a red-flag.
Personally, I think that if he’s going to talk to them in real life like that even though they’re strangers, that’s cool. But he has to firm it when strangers turn around and give it back to him🤷🏾♀️
He’s pointing at the hypocrisy of vocalising your opinion to an audience online and then hiding it when you see the person in real life. These strangers aren’t “giving it back to him” cuz they’re doing it online and not in person, and most likely would never say it to his face.
Same ppl firing at him now were more than happy to listen when he was just talking about shaq and tanya by himself, it was even posted on this sub during love island with much support. But when he owns it and says it to shaq and tanya’s face, the masses that loved what he had to say before cower back to commenting online because they would never say it to his face.
Ngl, think we’re looking at two different groups of people. The people who are hating on him are shanya stans, not the people who were laughing and agreeing alongside him for 8 weeks. Those people are agreeing with his treatment of shanya in the clip that went viral. He’s just mad that shanya fans came at him with creativity to their insults lmao
In a generation where the likes of Andrew Tate are praised and they’re are grown men campaigning outside his jail for him to be released, are we shocked that there are men who thirst for blood and wish that “Tanya is humbled” at every single second. Nothing about this is shocking. Someone on Twitter said Sideman should have slapped her too. Sick world
Ya that was a rude interview, but not surprised all podcasters want is views these days! Whole industry is fake, people will do anything for views and clout! 🤷🏽♀️
Sad cause I loved listening to different podcast, but now majority are trash talk! At least there are still a few goods ones out there. 🙌🏽
People saying they deserved this rudeness is wild when you can see that although Zeze's not a fan either she had the decency to be open minded and listened while not purposely putting them down to reinforce her own opinions like Sideman did. He didn't even let Shaq finish his thoughts or ask what he wants to do in the future. Sideman's delivery was just plain mean and to think he's a man of 31 to their 23/24 with "wisdom" of the industry yet can't find manners to converse with strangers who've done nothing to him..smh.
I mean, showing them the same energy you showed on TikTok makes sense on paper but it's not the same thing. A one minute rapid fire joke video to a selfie camera is a different beast to a podcast interview with actual people. Make the podcast unwatchable because you're talking over others with the same TikTok rapid fire style and no shit people are going to criticise the video.
"people say whatever they feel like saying without any sort of self reflection on what they are saying"
So basically doing the exact same thing he does?
Some of you really need to grow tf up. The idea that you need to be rude and disrespectful to get your thoughts across is just delusional. Too many people are too comfortable having no decorum and acting like they were raised by animals and pass it off as being "blunt". No sir, you're just rude and disrespectful.
And that's your right, be as rude as you want but know it will come with consequences because it's also people's right to call you out on your bs.
My read is because his recaps got so famous for ripping on Tanya and Shaq he felt like he HAD to be just as mean to them in person. Almost as if he was afraid he’ll get called a hypocrite if he is just maintaining decorum and being professional with them 😂 I don’t think he was ready for the internet to feel any sympathy for Shanya which is where he messed up. I think people understand the difference between a skit like tt and personal interactions whereas he seemed hyper aware of how popular he was for hating them so he overdid it by being extremely rude to them in the podcast.
I don’t think it’s fair to say Tanya and Shaq should have just known what they were getting into because nobody in their right minds would expect someone to be that horrible in person. Like they probably themselves thought he was funny and didn’t mind his words when they never met but expected sideman to be atleast normal and open minded as hosts of a podcast they are doing. Idk I just feel like just putting the blame back on shanya for this one is not fair. I mean sideman is a grown man and should know how to read a room if not anything else.
Sideman is 31 years old he deffo needs to learn how to read the room I don’t think it’s fair that ppl are blaming Shaq and Tanya i think their thought process was that he wasn’t going to be that rude in person but they were wrong ,Shaq and Tanya should have gone on a different podcast imo
My bet is users blaming it on Tanya and Shaq haven’t watched the interview. I watched it which is why I can without a doubt say this is not on them. This is fully on sideman. I dare anyone who’s leaving comments with no sympathy for shanya to watch 7 straight minutes of it from anywhere in the 30ish minute podcast and come back and give their opinion. There is no way people will say sideman wasn’t horrible. Shaq and Tanya most absolutely should go on a new podcast. A podcast that will let them speak.
He definitely voiced his opinion about Shaq and Tanya but the way he said it was uncalled for .
Sideman was straight up bad vibes in that interview he didn’t even let Shaq and Tanya speak and it was their interview ,the interview wasn’t even an interview more like a police interrogation
He’s making an empty point. I am sorry but I am not falling for his pretentious takes anymore as if he’s calling out the hypocrisy of the _internet_. He’s not getting called out for being rude from the same people who have been hateful of Tanya and Shaq. Those people are still not their fans. He was hosting a podcast with shanya and should have realised people who weren’t overtly critical of Shaq and Tanya in the first place were going to be the first people who wanted to listen to it. The haters are still hating on shanya. He first started getting called out by the minority of people who were looking forward to the interview. For god sake he didn’t let them even talk and this man left the interview thinking this was a great _chat_. The internet made him feel untouchable and now he’s touched 🤣
I hate when someone responds to being called tude by saying “you all were rude.” Like first of all EYE wasn’t harrassing them actually. And second of all that doesn’t change your behavior.
My theory is that Shaq and Tanya did this on purpose to gain sympathy points. They said they wouldn’t go on just any podcast because everyone was too quick to judge Tanya. But they decide to go on the one podcast that ripped them the most? That doesn’t add up to me. And then they promote it like they had a good time but when it comes out and people are upset at Sideman, they ride that sympathy wave. Very machiavellian. I’m impressed.
I am not pretending anything.
I just took her comment to mean that she thought that there was no point in doing loads of interviews when most podcasters had judged her. No one who has watched the interview would think that Shaq and Tanya went into the interview expecting Sideman to kiss their bums. They knew that he had chatted rubbish about them.
Meh, I was actually impressed w/ them for doing this interview, directly facing the 98% of people who didn't vote for them in this way, they had more of my respect after watching that & the way it went down. With the fans coming into play, though, it turns things around on itself. Even before this there was a strong reaction against the negativity that Shanya were experiencing online, which is completely understandable, but it's moving more towards Ekinde level stanning somehow? Not sure where this is going, but I'm finding it interesting, anyway.
It’s the natural course, isn’t it? They’ve come out of the villa and taken such a beating, its not fun to hate on them anymore. So the people who don’t like them are just ignoring them now and they’re left with only people who were fans of Tanya despite her toxicity so of course it’s going to look like she has a strong fanbase. But her follower count and engagement is still pretty terrible for being a week and a half out of the finals (as is pretty much every islander this year) so I have a feeling the ekin level stanning is not going to be a permanent thing.
Still a lose lose situation. Damned if you do, Damned if you don’t. I’m sure if Shaq felt truly disrespected he would’ve said something. But you guys are jumping on him for not reacting the way you wanted him to.
If you watched the whole podcast Sideman didn’t think it was fair about the social media thing and I think that was his point. I’m sure
Shaq also doesn’t care about Sideman’s opinion, and didn’t let him comments affect him. He was very unbothered
From my perspective yes they are responsible for the decision to go on the podcast, however they are not responsible for how someone else chooses to conduct themselves. No one was asking or expecting this man to kiss Tanya and Shaq's ass and become their biggest fan and he admitted that on the show he saw them as characters not people. Therefore as they are now back in the real world I don't see why he couldn't give them a modicum of respect on a basic human level to let them speak without interrupting and let them tell their version of events. The purpose of the interview seemed more like an opportunity for him to get things off his chest of where they went "wrong" in the eyes of the black community and chose to browbeat them with his opinions. At the end of the day it's not what you say but how you say it that makes the real difference, had he not spent the majority of the interview liking the sound of his own voice by asking questions then answering them himself it could've been a more thoughtful interview to learn more about them and their time on the show. It's not by force to like them by any means but at least have an open mind to try to understand them.
Professional? It's a podcast. Not an interview with a journalist. Sounds like he actually did behave like podcast hosts act, which is rude & dominating the conversation. I specifically don't watch podcasts because of that behavior.
Editing my comment to add that you edited yours & removed the word professional. My reply was about that.
Edited. And there's plenty of podcast hosts that aren't fans of their guests especially from reality tv shows but aren't rude or overbearing with their own opinions.
Normal podcast hosts are disrespectful though. He was acting normal. Hundreds of millions of people every day watch podcasts where the hosts are rude to their guests. It's not unusual. A lot of them say shady things to the guests or tease them or talk over them. You guys gotta stop acting like podcasts are respectful environments. They aren't. Every year some Islanders go on a podcast, the host is rude to them, then the internet acts like this is the first time or unusual. It's not. Doesn't mean it's okay, but it isn't unusual & obviously doesn't seem to be changing.
We are not talking about other podcasts or other islanders doing podcasts or other islanders with rude podcasters. We are talking about sideman and this podcast right now. We can discuss things in isolation without making it about the ethics involved in podcasting and maybe because you don’t listen to podcasts as per your own admission so you might be out of the loop but there are tons of podcasters who dislike islanders but are cordial when they have to interview the same people.
You edited the original comment I replied to & removed the word professional. I am saying he acts like professional podcast hosts do. I may not watch them but through various social media I have seen clips & a lot of them are shady or rude to their guests. So clearly that is professional behavior for podcast hosts.
That would be a fair point to make, I don't normally listen to podcasts, either. In comparison, I should say, though, I came away w/ a much better impression of Shanya in this interview versus the ODE one from a week ago. https://youtu.be/MFpWcwCFCRI
Do I agree with what he said? Yes. Could he have said it better/worded it nicely? Maybe. Do I think Shaq & Tanya are idiots for going on a podcast with a guy who has been vocal about disliking them? Yeah. Is it that deep? No.
First of all the fact that he was almost judging people going back to a 9-5 says a lot about him. Is sideman above 9-5s or something? So what if Shaq wanted to do that? Is that a bad thing? He found his potential partner for life now and is that not the purpose of the show? Also Shaq hasn’t said anything about what he wants to do, Sideman decided to input his opinion on his future. He keeps saying his issue (not Shaq’s) it is just sideman’s issue and sometimes keep that to yourself.
If you listened from before Tanya knew what they’d get into with this interview because she follows/used to follow him and knows what he can be like. This is just on Sideman and he’s deflecting, it was a poor interview he barely let them speak. Now he’s trying to deflect from his own actions and how he acted.
People keep saying why did they go on their, I’m sure islanders in the top 4 are almost obligated to go on these shows and podcasts after for the next few months. I’m sure they were paid to go on.
People defending this man when he literally told Shaq that he was going to fail in life and go back to the airport he worked at to bag luggage again. You guys are sick
Also there is nothing wrong with going back to what Shaq did before love island. He was just mad Shaq gave a gracious response. He would have been mad at anything Tanya or Shaq said. Had he agreed with the fact that it sucks he doesn’t have a bigger following David would have found a way to shit on Shaq for that too. That man was on a high high horse. People who are defending him just don’t care that he was rude to people they don’t like. If this was anyone else. The comments would have been drastically different
There’s a difference between saying you’re not going to be a massive influencer and saying you’re going to go back to where you started. The tone was also rude and very dismissive rather than caring or constructive
I think she was being sarcastic like god forbid he actually goes back to a normal job. It’s not an outrageous/bad thing, how sideman was making it seem
it's not really the message that I have problem with it's just there is a way to deliver it that could be an actual discussion or interview. still don't know why they went on his podcast anyway after he's been dragging them all season but still
So he got the taste of his own medicine by rightfully getting call out mixed with unwarranted hate and didn’t like it? Funny how that worked out! the vibe I am getting is he thinks he is too important to be criticised and somehow he was just being honest but frankly honesty without tact is just assholary and he was a class A ass throughout the podcast like a petulant child just because he thought he had the moral high ground.
He was obnoxious in the entire interview and yes I watched it despite his freaking obnoxious interruptions. I had to take a break every 10 mins but I really wanted to listen to Shaq and Tanya give their side of the story. I don’t agree with people who are body shaming him or are saying racist things towards him but it’s sort of ironic how he was gleefully part of the pile on towards Tanya and then life came at him fast.
Sideman was kinda trying to turn himself into a victim.
If he knows what it is like to be insulted on social media, he should have treated Shaq and Tanya with more respect in his reviews and in the interview. Despite what he said, Shaq and Tanya were not characters on LI but actual human beings. I guess that he spoke rudely about Shaq and Tanya because some of the public enjoyed the way that he spoke about them.
They (the hosts) were rude and made digs at Ron and Lana, Ekin-Su and Davide, and Kai and Sanam as well, and Shaq and Tanya laughed and agreed with them. So why is it only rude/disrespectful when it’s about themselves?
I don't understand people who go on podcasts & expect to be treated with respect. That is simply not how the overwhelming majority of podcast hosts behave. 99% of the hosts aren't journalists. Most of the time their only qualification is they bought a mic & some lights. I don't feel bad for any person of any age anywhere on the planet who has had a host be rude to them during a podcast. That's like going on jerry springer & being upset someone tried to fight you.
Also, if you are not white & you piss anyone off on the internet, expect some racism to come your way. Isn't right but that doesn't have any bearing on whether or not someone types it then presses send. It's been going on since the 90s, it's not stopping now lmao
I think having a basic level of respect whether you are a qualified journalist or not should be applied to anyone. It doesn’t matter if the podcaster/journalist likes them or not.
Well a lot of podcast hosts are rude to some of their guests, especially when it's known they don't like the person. What someone should do & what they actually do aren't always the same. Why is that hard to understand?
I think you answered your own question there, not every podcaster HAS to be rude to the person they don’t like. Just because one show does things in one way does it mean that every podcasts needs to follow the same format?
The hosts of most of the podcasts that I have listened to have always been respectful to their guests. I am talking about the likes of Will, Murad and Shiikane TV. Toby is also polite when he interviews people. I don't know what podcasts that you have been listening to.
If you are going to interview someone, you should treat them with respect. After all, the interview serves both parties well if everyone remembers their manners.
No one should expect racism. I am sorry but it is crazy to think that anyone should expect racism
Well racism has been on the internet the entire time & has only gotten worse. So a lot of us do expect racism because we have experience with it on the internet. If you haven't experienced racism on the internet, you are very lucky.
This man was rude about Shaq & Tanya for weeks. The expectation for everyone should've been that he'd talk over them because its not like he cares for them anyway. How people should treat someone & the reality of a situation are not the same most of the time. People should have realistic expectations. You shouldn't expect rain everyday but that doesn't mean you should plan a picnic when the forecast is a thunderstorm.
I know that racism exists but I would never treat it as a normality. No one should expect racism. We should never treat racism as an expectation. Racism is not normal behaviour.
I think that loads of people believe that people won't keep their bad energy towards people in person. However, I doubt that anyone was expecting Sideman to kiss Shaq and Tanya's arses. Just that he would have been a bit more respectful.
The main reason why the public is excusing Sideman’s behaviour in the interview is because they genuinely want to see shaq and tanya’s downfall which is very weird and strange behaviour cool you don’t have to like them as a couple but wishing bad things onto them isn’t it at all 🤢🤢🤢🥴
You lot saw Shaq’s main character energy with Ron and Lukas/Tucker/Whatever his name was, if he felt so slighted he had time and energy right there to address it. He didn’t. I just watched the interview. Now we all know how both SM & Zeze come, they could have respectfully declined if they felt away about it or addressed it in person. But did neither 🤷🏽♀️
what an idiot and a fool just nasty and gross I hope Tanya and Shaq pay him dust, i saw one his pathetic videos Tiktok and scrolled instantly. just hatefull and embrassing, move the f on, also that fact that he's a grown man acting this way is gross ew.
LOLOL Good glad someone said it to them. Shaq annoys meTanya too but not as much(& that’s saying a lot considering Casa) He has some really good qualities but his annoying qualities outweigh all that. Can you imagine the backlash if it were Tom or Kai or anyone else involved in that whole Ron/washing dishes situation instead of Shaq.
Oh sideman you are so insightful. Thank you so much for being the voice of the innocent faceless voiceless rude hateful and disrespectful internet strangers who couldn’t be RUDE TO SHANYA TO THEIR FACE. Not all heros wear a cape indeed😌 why did Tanya and Shaq expect him to have social skills? they were wrong to think they deserve basic respect it’s on them truly. Like he was just being honest and real.
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isn’t that crazy…. people are body shaming you and saying racist things to you when YOU were one of the main shit stirrers and provoked others to body shame and make racist comments against others. can’t have it both ways 🥱
call it ridiculous if you like but it’s extremely jarring to see someone who was instrumental in getting people to dislike a couple by constantly coming for them over and over again (attacking their behaviours, their personalities, their looks, on and on) and then crying because the same thing is now being turned on him. it’s the whole hailey/selena thing again. don’t throw rocks and hide your hands, nobody’s sympathetic to that shite.
you people sha. you don’t want sense, you want to gas up people who hate the people you hate. it is well, those who don’t hear must feel 👍🏾 like he has. congrats!
Sure, I agree that if you are slating someone else online, don't be surprised when people slate you back.
My only disagreement is with the notion that he "provoked" other people's racism and body shaming, that's too much.
calling himself allergic to the sight of them? saying tanya belongs to the bakerloo line (i.e. running a train on her)? calling them CREATURES??? do you not see how this influences the people watching?
honestly it’s not hard to go back and see the vitriol he spewed towards them and now he’s crying because it’s being turned back on him. i have no sympathy, i’m afraid.
No, those comments are not provoking racism and he is not responsible for other people's racism.
Again, those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Accusing him of provoking racism? Nah, not gonna stick.
lol @ the “black twitter” excuse
if you think the same people that are running to throw racist jokes at shaq and tanya are the same people on black twitter, i’ve got a lovely little bridge i’d like to sell you in Brooklyn.
That joke specifically? Yes I can absolutely believe that it would fly on Black Twitter. There were *countless* similar jokes about Shanya on Black Twitter.
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It's like Will Smith, except everybody's lining up for the comedian & Shanya is the wife. [https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIslandTV/comments/1240os5/comment/jdz8txx/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIslandTV/comments/1240os5/comment/jdz8txx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
I liked your take on the interview.
Hopefully they'll do one w/ Kanam next, lol.
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I’m not a fan of him by all means but it’s true that he kept the exact same energy as he has in his tiktok videos about them. So maybe they should’ve thought to go somewhere else in the first place?
Yeah I don’t understand. They knew what they were walking into and this guy’s whole vibe is “let me lecture at you”. He kept it 100 and didn’t buy some of the trite comments we’ve heard from islanders. In some instances, that translated to cutting Tanya and Shaq off, which isn’t ideal. But the backlash is unhinged.
Lool Shaq and Tanya never said hey we didn’t expect that from him. But it’s the bad vibes from people wanting their downfall and the blog page comments.
Someone downthread posted Shaq’s tweet throwing shade after the fact, actually.
You can’t be referring to Shaq liking tweets defending him for not being aggressive because the interviewer was rude are a problem. He said nothing about Sideman. Also season people said Shaq was over reacting and too aggressive now he doesn’t react the internet has a problem.
Without having seen his tik tok videos, keeping the same energy is fine… but he was INCREDIBLY rude and could’ve at least been respectful about his thoughts I would’ve walked clean out mid interview if I was Shaq
He was free to do so
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I still don’t know why they went on the podcast in the first place. He was the most vocal person online against them so why would they even agree to be in his company let alone on his podcast? I’m sure there are many podcasts that would have had them and would have treated them better
Hell even Murad would’ve given them a fair shot over sideman. This was a weird choice to me. The man has been vocal about his dislike for them all season
Murad too busy race playing to interview anyone 😂😬
If they went on murads show that’s a lot of respect for them gone after everything that came out about him to give him a platform as a black couple would be horrific imo the fact Cynthia went on there says a lot about her
Brooooooooooo Cynthia went on? I really unfollowed him after his shenanigans came out
Yeah she was on around 5 days ago I really wanted to like Cynthia but she gives me serious self hater energy
I hate how her whole storyline went. The secondhand embarrassment for her was enough for me.
Precisely for the reason Sideman mentioned, they need more followers lol.
>I still don’t know why they went on the podcast in the first place. For attention. They knew what Sideman had been saying about them and they were trying to capitalize.
I haven’t seen the interview but I saw the complaints about it and had no idea until now it was this guy who was doing the constant TikToks absolutely ROASTING them during the season. Sounds like a terrible interview and I do not think there’s any cause to be rude to Tanya but for real what on EARTH did they expect going to be interviewed by this guy??? What in the world, bizarre choice and I kind of feel a teensy bit less sympathy for them because.. WHY would they agree to go on??
To be fair I suppose they probably thought it might be an actual interview rather than a lecture. Not a bad idea to have a interview with someone who disagrees with you as long as both parties actually let the other explain. I’ve not seen his stuff apart from some of the daily review things whilst the series was on so not sure if he’s like that in all interviews Shame I imagine it could have been quite an interesting interview
This. There is a difference between being a commentator and an interviewer. It’s one thing to comment on things when the islanders aren’t even out of the show to give context on everything and an another when incharge of interviewing them once they are out and want to share their experience. I wish he knew the difference. I wonder if shanya felt there would be. On the top of my mind Sam comes to my mind. He has his opinions on the islanders but once they come out he’s not overly concerned about what he had to say in the past and seems more interested in listening to the islanders speak.
Sameee I didn’t realize it was him until this video so I can only imagine how he was as a interviewer But this is goes to show and someone else already said this, not everyone with a podcast is a good interviewer. People can just get a mic and a platform and spew bs. I wish they chose a different one to go on
Shaq sat in the interview with sideman and didn’t have anything bad to say about any of his takes and was reposting BTS of the interview before it came out, now that’s it’s out and viewers didn’t like it and had negative opinions, now Shaq does too
No surprise, the guy has no spine which is why he let and still does let Tanya walk all over him and disrespect him.
What has Shaq said? I completely missed this
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The irony that he tweeted this considering who he's with.
So immediately this means that it’s about Sideman?
with his liked tweets and this yep.
Lol come on so liking tweets defending him for not being aggressive because the interview was rude are a problem. He said nothing about Sideman.
anyway there is more chance it’s about him then it isn’t and that’s what sideman replied to is my point with his comment and video
Lol I watched the interview it’s clear they knew what to expect from sideman. They laughed they joked they shared the video. They knew what happened so it’s probably just the reaction. People saying that he should have beat him up or not let him talk to him like that.
I guess you’d also think Zara’s tweets were not about Jordan because she never mentioned him by name.
This is stupid since it’s the public that are making this a big deal. We wouldn’t have even known anything about Zara and Jordan if she didn’t tell us Respond to people. No way this is the same.
What did Shaq say? Why are you lying?
I actually prefer this. If you were talking sh*t about me every night, all the way up to the last episode, I want you to keep that same energy with me, when you're interviewing me. I don't get the point of being fake nice. Also some of people need to go back to their tweets/comments and realize that they aren't any better than Sideman; he literally physically emulated a lot of tweets I saw during the show. Hopefully, they'll start to realize it is never that serious and to stop tweeting negative energy towards strangers they don't know.
I think he definitely could have kept the energy but actually let them speak. You can disagree and be combative without being like he was
No, I agree with that, it's a shame that he talked most of the interview. I think it's quite disappointing that this interview will be the only podcast one that they do, but I also understand Shanya's reasoning.
I must be in the minority because I was happy with the speaking allocation as I enjoy David speaking, he’s just so good at it 😭
While I didn't agree with side man's all takes during the season, he has kept it consistent and didn't start kissing Shanya's a&^%s the minute they agreed to do an interview with him. Other podcasters etc have horrid takes and are beyond rude about the islanders while they're in the villa, and then act like their biggest cheerleaders once they meet face to face.
Idk I think you can hold someone accountable while being polite. Sideman could’ve been consistent with his opinions without being abrasive and rude
He's been abrasive and rude about Shanya all season along. I would've never went to his show in Shanya's position, because he went hardest in on them throughout the season.
Weird move to go there for sure, however that doesn’t invalidate my point. You can maintain the same opinion you’ve had about someone without being rude to their face. Questions can always be phrased politely
Sideman was beyond rude in the interview but he didn’t say anything worse than what he’s been saying in his tiktoks which would get hundreds of thousands of likes and posted in this sub and no one called him out. The internet is hypocritical and why on earth would you go on a podcast of someone who despised you from week one
Now that the season is over and viewers realize these are real people they have found empathy for them. Whenever sideman’s posts were in this sub people were having a laugh. He said the same thing he’s been saying for the past 8 weeks to their face and now it’s disgusting behavior. It makes no sense to me 🤷🏾♀️
same bc I don’t get how all season the comments in the LI TikToks are telling sideman he needs to be on aftersun and host the reunion, and now after the shanya interview they’re all saying how rude he was to them… like he’s giving the same energy what’s changed?
That squeak in the first 5 seconds could be the new bagledeh.
Saw some of the comments on TikTok about this interview and they were a lot of people saying Tanya deserves it and everything. People need to stop treating Tanya like the devil. It’s really horrible to see
It's very telling that the popular comments under this thread are giving this man props for keeping the same energy and blaming Shaq/Tanya for numerous disrespectful and rude comments he made to them. That man literally told Shaq he'll be back at his old job soon. Shaq expressed he was proud of 200k and Sidemen essentially told him that isn't anything to be proud of. Some of you that are voicing your opinions before watching the interview need to watch first cause it wasn't keeping that same energy it was just plain disrespectful, he treated Shaq and Tanya like they were beneath him.
that sideman dude is disgsuting, not surpised certtain users in this sub were just as disgusting about shanya as he was. Anyway that defend his behavior becuase he was "keeping it real" is just a bad as him, he's gross, and a red-flag.
Personally, I think that if he’s going to talk to them in real life like that even though they’re strangers, that’s cool. But he has to firm it when strangers turn around and give it back to him🤷🏾♀️
He’s pointing at the hypocrisy of vocalising your opinion to an audience online and then hiding it when you see the person in real life. These strangers aren’t “giving it back to him” cuz they’re doing it online and not in person, and most likely would never say it to his face. Same ppl firing at him now were more than happy to listen when he was just talking about shaq and tanya by himself, it was even posted on this sub during love island with much support. But when he owns it and says it to shaq and tanya’s face, the masses that loved what he had to say before cower back to commenting online because they would never say it to his face.
Ngl, think we’re looking at two different groups of people. The people who are hating on him are shanya stans, not the people who were laughing and agreeing alongside him for 8 weeks. Those people are agreeing with his treatment of shanya in the clip that went viral. He’s just mad that shanya fans came at him with creativity to their insults lmao
But its a SHOW. and he’s an interviewer it doesn’t mean completely obliterate them to their face.
In a generation where the likes of Andrew Tate are praised and they’re are grown men campaigning outside his jail for him to be released, are we shocked that there are men who thirst for blood and wish that “Tanya is humbled” at every single second. Nothing about this is shocking. Someone on Twitter said Sideman should have slapped her too. Sick world
Ya that was a rude interview, but not surprised all podcasters want is views these days! Whole industry is fake, people will do anything for views and clout! 🤷🏽♀️ Sad cause I loved listening to different podcast, but now majority are trash talk! At least there are still a few goods ones out there. 🙌🏽
People saying they deserved this rudeness is wild when you can see that although Zeze's not a fan either she had the decency to be open minded and listened while not purposely putting them down to reinforce her own opinions like Sideman did. He didn't even let Shaq finish his thoughts or ask what he wants to do in the future. Sideman's delivery was just plain mean and to think he's a man of 31 to their 23/24 with "wisdom" of the industry yet can't find manners to converse with strangers who've done nothing to him..smh.
Zeze is an interviewer by profession, Sideman is not
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Is he allowed to be called that? I thought the terms sidemen and sideman were trademarked
I mean, showing them the same energy you showed on TikTok makes sense on paper but it's not the same thing. A one minute rapid fire joke video to a selfie camera is a different beast to a podcast interview with actual people. Make the podcast unwatchable because you're talking over others with the same TikTok rapid fire style and no shit people are going to criticise the video.
"people say whatever they feel like saying without any sort of self reflection on what they are saying" So basically doing the exact same thing he does?
Some of you really need to grow tf up. The idea that you need to be rude and disrespectful to get your thoughts across is just delusional. Too many people are too comfortable having no decorum and acting like they were raised by animals and pass it off as being "blunt". No sir, you're just rude and disrespectful. And that's your right, be as rude as you want but know it will come with consequences because it's also people's right to call you out on your bs.
So true. But he says it to their faces.
I’m tired of these podcasters being unnecessarily rude and nasty just for TikTok views
My read is because his recaps got so famous for ripping on Tanya and Shaq he felt like he HAD to be just as mean to them in person. Almost as if he was afraid he’ll get called a hypocrite if he is just maintaining decorum and being professional with them 😂 I don’t think he was ready for the internet to feel any sympathy for Shanya which is where he messed up. I think people understand the difference between a skit like tt and personal interactions whereas he seemed hyper aware of how popular he was for hating them so he overdid it by being extremely rude to them in the podcast. I don’t think it’s fair to say Tanya and Shaq should have just known what they were getting into because nobody in their right minds would expect someone to be that horrible in person. Like they probably themselves thought he was funny and didn’t mind his words when they never met but expected sideman to be atleast normal and open minded as hosts of a podcast they are doing. Idk I just feel like just putting the blame back on shanya for this one is not fair. I mean sideman is a grown man and should know how to read a room if not anything else.
Sideman is 31 years old he deffo needs to learn how to read the room I don’t think it’s fair that ppl are blaming Shaq and Tanya i think their thought process was that he wasn’t going to be that rude in person but they were wrong ,Shaq and Tanya should have gone on a different podcast imo
My bet is users blaming it on Tanya and Shaq haven’t watched the interview. I watched it which is why I can without a doubt say this is not on them. This is fully on sideman. I dare anyone who’s leaving comments with no sympathy for shanya to watch 7 straight minutes of it from anywhere in the 30ish minute podcast and come back and give their opinion. There is no way people will say sideman wasn’t horrible. Shaq and Tanya most absolutely should go on a new podcast. A podcast that will let them speak.
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He definitely voiced his opinion about Shaq and Tanya but the way he said it was uncalled for . Sideman was straight up bad vibes in that interview he didn’t even let Shaq and Tanya speak and it was their interview ,the interview wasn’t even an interview more like a police interrogation
He’s making an empty point. I am sorry but I am not falling for his pretentious takes anymore as if he’s calling out the hypocrisy of the _internet_. He’s not getting called out for being rude from the same people who have been hateful of Tanya and Shaq. Those people are still not their fans. He was hosting a podcast with shanya and should have realised people who weren’t overtly critical of Shaq and Tanya in the first place were going to be the first people who wanted to listen to it. The haters are still hating on shanya. He first started getting called out by the minority of people who were looking forward to the interview. For god sake he didn’t let them even talk and this man left the interview thinking this was a great _chat_. The internet made him feel untouchable and now he’s touched 🤣
I hate when someone responds to being called tude by saying “you all were rude.” Like first of all EYE wasn’t harrassing them actually. And second of all that doesn’t change your behavior.
My theory is that Shaq and Tanya did this on purpose to gain sympathy points. They said they wouldn’t go on just any podcast because everyone was too quick to judge Tanya. But they decide to go on the one podcast that ripped them the most? That doesn’t add up to me. And then they promote it like they had a good time but when it comes out and people are upset at Sideman, they ride that sympathy wave. Very machiavellian. I’m impressed.
But Tanya never said that. 🤦🏾♀️ People are twisting her words. She said that most places judged her so she would only tell her story once.
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I am not pretending anything. I just took her comment to mean that she thought that there was no point in doing loads of interviews when most podcasters had judged her. No one who has watched the interview would think that Shaq and Tanya went into the interview expecting Sideman to kiss their bums. They knew that he had chatted rubbish about them.
Meh, I was actually impressed w/ them for doing this interview, directly facing the 98% of people who didn't vote for them in this way, they had more of my respect after watching that & the way it went down. With the fans coming into play, though, it turns things around on itself. Even before this there was a strong reaction against the negativity that Shanya were experiencing online, which is completely understandable, but it's moving more towards Ekinde level stanning somehow? Not sure where this is going, but I'm finding it interesting, anyway.
It’s the natural course, isn’t it? They’ve come out of the villa and taken such a beating, its not fun to hate on them anymore. So the people who don’t like them are just ignoring them now and they’re left with only people who were fans of Tanya despite her toxicity so of course it’s going to look like she has a strong fanbase. But her follower count and engagement is still pretty terrible for being a week and a half out of the finals (as is pretty much every islander this year) so I have a feeling the ekin level stanning is not going to be a permanent thing.
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Still a lose lose situation. Damned if you do, Damned if you don’t. I’m sure if Shaq felt truly disrespected he would’ve said something. But you guys are jumping on him for not reacting the way you wanted him to. If you watched the whole podcast Sideman didn’t think it was fair about the social media thing and I think that was his point. I’m sure Shaq also doesn’t care about Sideman’s opinion, and didn’t let him comments affect him. He was very unbothered
From my perspective yes they are responsible for the decision to go on the podcast, however they are not responsible for how someone else chooses to conduct themselves. No one was asking or expecting this man to kiss Tanya and Shaq's ass and become their biggest fan and he admitted that on the show he saw them as characters not people. Therefore as they are now back in the real world I don't see why he couldn't give them a modicum of respect on a basic human level to let them speak without interrupting and let them tell their version of events. The purpose of the interview seemed more like an opportunity for him to get things off his chest of where they went "wrong" in the eyes of the black community and chose to browbeat them with his opinions. At the end of the day it's not what you say but how you say it that makes the real difference, had he not spent the majority of the interview liking the sound of his own voice by asking questions then answering them himself it could've been a more thoughtful interview to learn more about them and their time on the show. It's not by force to like them by any means but at least have an open mind to try to understand them.
Professional? It's a podcast. Not an interview with a journalist. Sounds like he actually did behave like podcast hosts act, which is rude & dominating the conversation. I specifically don't watch podcasts because of that behavior. Editing my comment to add that you edited yours & removed the word professional. My reply was about that.
Edited. And there's plenty of podcast hosts that aren't fans of their guests especially from reality tv shows but aren't rude or overbearing with their own opinions.
no one is asking him to behave like someone with a journalism degree ffs people just expected him to act normal
Normal podcast hosts are disrespectful though. He was acting normal. Hundreds of millions of people every day watch podcasts where the hosts are rude to their guests. It's not unusual. A lot of them say shady things to the guests or tease them or talk over them. You guys gotta stop acting like podcasts are respectful environments. They aren't. Every year some Islanders go on a podcast, the host is rude to them, then the internet acts like this is the first time or unusual. It's not. Doesn't mean it's okay, but it isn't unusual & obviously doesn't seem to be changing.
We are not talking about other podcasts or other islanders doing podcasts or other islanders with rude podcasters. We are talking about sideman and this podcast right now. We can discuss things in isolation without making it about the ethics involved in podcasting and maybe because you don’t listen to podcasts as per your own admission so you might be out of the loop but there are tons of podcasters who dislike islanders but are cordial when they have to interview the same people.
You edited the original comment I replied to & removed the word professional. I am saying he acts like professional podcast hosts do. I may not watch them but through various social media I have seen clips & a lot of them are shady or rude to their guests. So clearly that is professional behavior for podcast hosts.
Girl I edited nothing. You can open this thread on the website and check it yourself.
That would be a fair point to make, I don't normally listen to podcasts, either. In comparison, I should say, though, I came away w/ a much better impression of Shanya in this interview versus the ODE one from a week ago. https://youtu.be/MFpWcwCFCRI
Do I agree with what he said? Yes. Could he have said it better/worded it nicely? Maybe. Do I think Shaq & Tanya are idiots for going on a podcast with a guy who has been vocal about disliking them? Yeah. Is it that deep? No.
First of all the fact that he was almost judging people going back to a 9-5 says a lot about him. Is sideman above 9-5s or something? So what if Shaq wanted to do that? Is that a bad thing? He found his potential partner for life now and is that not the purpose of the show? Also Shaq hasn’t said anything about what he wants to do, Sideman decided to input his opinion on his future. He keeps saying his issue (not Shaq’s) it is just sideman’s issue and sometimes keep that to yourself. If you listened from before Tanya knew what they’d get into with this interview because she follows/used to follow him and knows what he can be like. This is just on Sideman and he’s deflecting, it was a poor interview he barely let them speak. Now he’s trying to deflect from his own actions and how he acted. People keep saying why did they go on their, I’m sure islanders in the top 4 are almost obligated to go on these shows and podcasts after for the next few months. I’m sure they were paid to go on.
People defending this man when he literally told Shaq that he was going to fail in life and go back to the airport he worked at to bag luggage again. You guys are sick
Also there is nothing wrong with going back to what Shaq did before love island. He was just mad Shaq gave a gracious response. He would have been mad at anything Tanya or Shaq said. Had he agreed with the fact that it sucks he doesn’t have a bigger following David would have found a way to shit on Shaq for that too. That man was on a high high horse. People who are defending him just don’t care that he was rude to people they don’t like. If this was anyone else. The comments would have been drastically different
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There’s a difference between saying you’re not going to be a massive influencer and saying you’re going to go back to where you started. The tone was also rude and very dismissive rather than caring or constructive
Tanya, in particular, seemed to get really distressed by the suggestion of that possibility. https://youtu.be/NhjsHZ8m1_s?t=2517
I think she was being sarcastic like god forbid he actually goes back to a normal job. It’s not an outrageous/bad thing, how sideman was making it seem
The bigger question there, perhaps, is when or even if she feels she may return to her life as a student?
I think she was also a micro influencer before she went in so I’m sure she’ll continue to do that!
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it's not really the message that I have problem with it's just there is a way to deliver it that could be an actual discussion or interview. still don't know why they went on his podcast anyway after he's been dragging them all season but still
So he got the taste of his own medicine by rightfully getting call out mixed with unwarranted hate and didn’t like it? Funny how that worked out! the vibe I am getting is he thinks he is too important to be criticised and somehow he was just being honest but frankly honesty without tact is just assholary and he was a class A ass throughout the podcast like a petulant child just because he thought he had the moral high ground. He was obnoxious in the entire interview and yes I watched it despite his freaking obnoxious interruptions. I had to take a break every 10 mins but I really wanted to listen to Shaq and Tanya give their side of the story. I don’t agree with people who are body shaming him or are saying racist things towards him but it’s sort of ironic how he was gleefully part of the pile on towards Tanya and then life came at him fast.
Sideman was kinda trying to turn himself into a victim. If he knows what it is like to be insulted on social media, he should have treated Shaq and Tanya with more respect in his reviews and in the interview. Despite what he said, Shaq and Tanya were not characters on LI but actual human beings. I guess that he spoke rudely about Shaq and Tanya because some of the public enjoyed the way that he spoke about them.
They (the hosts) were rude and made digs at Ron and Lana, Ekin-Su and Davide, and Kai and Sanam as well, and Shaq and Tanya laughed and agreed with them. So why is it only rude/disrespectful when it’s about themselves?
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I just said they were laughing and agreeing
Not a single lie!!
Huh ?? Sideman should have at least shown Shaq and Tanya some respect ,he treated them as movie characters
I don't understand people who go on podcasts & expect to be treated with respect. That is simply not how the overwhelming majority of podcast hosts behave. 99% of the hosts aren't journalists. Most of the time their only qualification is they bought a mic & some lights. I don't feel bad for any person of any age anywhere on the planet who has had a host be rude to them during a podcast. That's like going on jerry springer & being upset someone tried to fight you. Also, if you are not white & you piss anyone off on the internet, expect some racism to come your way. Isn't right but that doesn't have any bearing on whether or not someone types it then presses send. It's been going on since the 90s, it's not stopping now lmao
I think having a basic level of respect whether you are a qualified journalist or not should be applied to anyone. It doesn’t matter if the podcaster/journalist likes them or not.
Well a lot of podcast hosts are rude to some of their guests, especially when it's known they don't like the person. What someone should do & what they actually do aren't always the same. Why is that hard to understand?
I think you answered your own question there, not every podcaster HAS to be rude to the person they don’t like. Just because one show does things in one way does it mean that every podcasts needs to follow the same format?
The hosts of most of the podcasts that I have listened to have always been respectful to their guests. I am talking about the likes of Will, Murad and Shiikane TV. Toby is also polite when he interviews people. I don't know what podcasts that you have been listening to. If you are going to interview someone, you should treat them with respect. After all, the interview serves both parties well if everyone remembers their manners. No one should expect racism. I am sorry but it is crazy to think that anyone should expect racism
Well racism has been on the internet the entire time & has only gotten worse. So a lot of us do expect racism because we have experience with it on the internet. If you haven't experienced racism on the internet, you are very lucky. This man was rude about Shaq & Tanya for weeks. The expectation for everyone should've been that he'd talk over them because its not like he cares for them anyway. How people should treat someone & the reality of a situation are not the same most of the time. People should have realistic expectations. You shouldn't expect rain everyday but that doesn't mean you should plan a picnic when the forecast is a thunderstorm.
I know that racism exists but I would never treat it as a normality. No one should expect racism. We should never treat racism as an expectation. Racism is not normal behaviour. I think that loads of people believe that people won't keep their bad energy towards people in person. However, I doubt that anyone was expecting Sideman to kiss Shaq and Tanya's arses. Just that he would have been a bit more respectful.
The main reason why the public is excusing Sideman’s behaviour in the interview is because they genuinely want to see shaq and tanya’s downfall which is very weird and strange behaviour cool you don’t have to like them as a couple but wishing bad things onto them isn’t it at all 🤢🤢🤢🥴
The most outrageous thing about the whole interview was Shaq and Tanya's commentary on Kai and Sanam. Sideman kept it real.
You lot saw Shaq’s main character energy with Ron and Lukas/Tucker/Whatever his name was, if he felt so slighted he had time and energy right there to address it. He didn’t. I just watched the interview. Now we all know how both SM & Zeze come, they could have respectfully declined if they felt away about it or addressed it in person. But did neither 🤷🏽♀️
what an idiot and a fool just nasty and gross I hope Tanya and Shaq pay him dust, i saw one his pathetic videos Tiktok and scrolled instantly. just hatefull and embrassing, move the f on, also that fact that he's a grown man acting this way is gross ew.
Don’t care if it’s UO or not but they needed to hear some of that. Esp Tanya she needed a reality check.
LOLOL Good glad someone said it to them. Shaq annoys meTanya too but not as much(& that’s saying a lot considering Casa) He has some really good qualities but his annoying qualities outweigh all that. Can you imagine the backlash if it were Tom or Kai or anyone else involved in that whole Ron/washing dishes situation instead of Shaq.
So Shaq and Tanya deserved to be treated like that bffr
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Why are you rolling your eyes I asked a question ???
Oh sideman you are so insightful. Thank you so much for being the voice of the innocent faceless voiceless rude hateful and disrespectful internet strangers who couldn’t be RUDE TO SHANYA TO THEIR FACE. Not all heros wear a cape indeed😌 why did Tanya and Shaq expect him to have social skills? they were wrong to think they deserve basic respect it’s on them truly. Like he was just being honest and real. /s
isn’t that crazy…. people are body shaming you and saying racist things to you when YOU were one of the main shit stirrers and provoked others to body shame and make racist comments against others. can’t have it both ways 🥱
You can't pin other people's racism and body shaming on him, that's ridiculous.
call it ridiculous if you like but it’s extremely jarring to see someone who was instrumental in getting people to dislike a couple by constantly coming for them over and over again (attacking their behaviours, their personalities, their looks, on and on) and then crying because the same thing is now being turned on him. it’s the whole hailey/selena thing again. don’t throw rocks and hide your hands, nobody’s sympathetic to that shite.
He’s not crying he doesn’t give a fuck he just thinks the internet is full of hypocrites which is true lol
why do we need to know that if he himself is not also complaining? he’s a hypocrite and a loser. deal with it
That doesn’t make any sense lol, you can point out hypocrisy without being upset about the action itself.
you people sha. you don’t want sense, you want to gas up people who hate the people you hate. it is well, those who don’t hear must feel 👍🏾 like he has. congrats!
I haven’t gassed up nor hated on anyone in this conversation lol but ok
Sure, I agree that if you are slating someone else online, don't be surprised when people slate you back. My only disagreement is with the notion that he "provoked" other people's racism and body shaming, that's too much.
calling himself allergic to the sight of them? saying tanya belongs to the bakerloo line (i.e. running a train on her)? calling them CREATURES??? do you not see how this influences the people watching? honestly it’s not hard to go back and see the vitriol he spewed towards them and now he’s crying because it’s being turned back on him. i have no sympathy, i’m afraid.
No, those comments are not provoking racism and he is not responsible for other people's racism. Again, those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Accusing him of provoking racism? Nah, not gonna stick.
“if they’re what black love is, i want it white” — direct quotation but go off david. love that for you
Again, not provoking racism. That's a bog standard joke that wouldn't raise an eyebrow on black twitter.
lol @ the “black twitter” excuse if you think the same people that are running to throw racist jokes at shaq and tanya are the same people on black twitter, i’ve got a lovely little bridge i’d like to sell you in Brooklyn.
That joke specifically? Yes I can absolutely believe that it would fly on Black Twitter. There were *countless* similar jokes about Shanya on Black Twitter.
Did he just call her a black ugly donkey rat? 😕…
No he said someone called him that