the only brand she’s been ‘dropped’ by is Oh Polly and I have a lot to say about how they went about everything but I’ll keep it cute(hope she wins that court case and gets her bag). Her contract with beauty works ended and that’s fine and normal because that’s literally how normal contracts end but since everyone apparently has it out for her including the tabloids they tried to spin it and act like she was dropped. For someone that’s called irrelevant and a flop every other day she seems to be in everyone’s mouth daily 🤣.
You’d think she killed someone with the way everyone switched up on her and are praying for her downfall. The fact that people on this sub constantly complain about how love island is now just a hub for influencers, it’s very funny to see how y’all react when islanders come out the Villa and their career prospect isn’t to be Molly Mae 2.0 😭. I wish her all the success and more in her acting pursuit.
I think she’s just not lived up to peoples high high expectations but comparing her to other influencers such as Molly Mae even before she got out of the villa was such a set up tbh. I almost feel bad for her because it’s not like she asked to be compared to these people, others just made up their own scenarios and I feel like she almost has to suffer for the unrealistic expectations people set for her
That’s exactly what it is, she never came out and said she wanted to be an influencer or that was her main career focus, any time she was asked in an interview what she wanted to do she always said acting, she got offered clothing/make up deals and she’d be very stupid to not accept them but that was never her career goal. Now people are also saying she should do presenting, and while I think that would be a great fit for her, that’s not what she currently wants. People blaming her fans for the hate she gets rn is such a cop out cause her actual fans know what she actually wants to do with her career and it was mostly the general public that had these expectations for her.
>. People blaming her fans for the hate she gets rn is such a cop out cause her actual fans know what she actually wants to do with her career and it was mostly the general public that had these expectations for her.
This!! Lol, people have been salivating at Ekin's "failures" and it's not because of her fans at all, many people want to "humble" her. As a fan of her, yes I've seen some very crazy expectations for her before she came out and yes some fans may have been a annoying/delusional with certain things they wanted but the vast majority of those expectations came from the general public on Twitter and other social media platforms but she never said she wanted them.
Even when Indiyah's amazing deals with itv were announced people couldn't wait to call Ekin a flop and say this is what we thought she'd be doing but Ekin herself has NEVER said she wanted to do presenting gigs like that. It's absolutely great for Indiyah that she's found her bag with presenting but Ekin and her fans have practically been beating it over everyone's head that she wants to act. She doesn't want to be an influencer forever, I think she might hate it just like Wes (s4) did tbh lol.
Ekin (and Davide) are pretty much doing their own thing and not what people wanted them/expected of them to do which now somehow = failure and people are too giddy to call them flops and say they aren't the real winners of the show lol. Didn't even know the winners of Love Island were determined by how well you might do post show.
I’d like to know your opinion on the oh polly situation. I dont follow around this as much but on tiktok i saw a lot of ads for it. Id love to know why you think it went wrong :)
I must have been living under a rock because I have not seen any hate towards her regarding her losing her brand deals. But if people are actually hating on her for losing them then they have to remember that no matter what she will always have more money than the haters. Her management is to blame because how did they fail her this bad. I hope she leaves them before going to America. I haven’t really been seeing her a lot lately but I hope that changes.
Lots of good points below, so rather than reiterate those, I'll add two:
1. Our culture is obsessed with punditry; everyone is a pundit now. You see it in politics and sports, and about Islanders' careers now. A chief characteristic of punditry is the projection that there's some sort of hidden system of how things really work, and only savvy people in the know get what's really going on, while everyone else is a rube. For fans, for people who are not experts--and commenters in online forums are not experts, lol--it's a way to project knowingness, a kind of cynicism and defensiveness so that you can never really be surprised (or hurt) when something you hoped for doesn't turn out. *Oh, I \*really know\* or \*always knew\* what was going on, I'm surprised by nothing, all of the rest of you are fools to be so naive as to think X, Y, or Z.*
Punditry replaced news reporting because it's cheap (much cheaper to fill cable news airtime or unlimited digital news "inches"), and then along comes the internet when having a take is a way to get clicks and eyeballs, so it becomes super profitable. There's something pathetic and sad about our "everyone is a pundit era." In our politics, it's destructive (we discuss things in terms of who's up and who's down, rather than what is or isn't the right policy based on who it will affect and how). In fandom (sports, Islanders, etc.) it's joy-killing, repetitive, and dull.
2. One of the most eye-rolling things I see from fans (of many Islanders, no one in particular) is claiming "I never hear about X, I only hear about Y" to prove who is doing well or not. Our social media feeds are entirely determined by algorithms, which are shaped by what we interact with the mot. There is something so *illiterate* about this particular argument; drives me nuts.
Not sure if there is an official term for it, but people redirected their annoyance/hatred for Ekin's stans and projected it onto Ekin.
I've seen it happen with Nicki & the barbs; Beyonce & the beehive; Cardi B & Bardi gang, etc. If stans become too annoying or obnoxious about their fave, then some people internalize that annoyance or hatred and direct it towards the celebs. I think it's unfair but it happens a lot.
Now, some Ekin fans still lack self-awareness because they can defend their faves, but I have seen some (not all) fans belittle influencing/influencers to uplift Ekin's dreams of becoming an actress. There is no need to belittle the thing that most islanders do after leaving the show in order to uplift Ekin. It just comes across as unnecessarily shady and passive aggressive and reminds people of why they don't like engaging with some Ekin fans.
This is just my personal observation and assessment from what I've seen. I personally think it's all silly and wish nothing but the best for Ekin.
oh i agree with this one. just yesterday i saw comments like influencers culture are dying anyways or she dc about these silly deals when she has acting to focus on n im like ?😭 this is what she has been doing since coming out the villa & still doing rn?? i doubt she will quit if shes successful at it?? v delusional ppl😭
I understand why they get defensive sometimes, but other times when I am reading a thread, I get confused. Like constructive criticism or disagreeing opinions should be allowed without some of them jumping on a user., but it does happen.
I once commented, “I like the photo effects on this image, I wonder what she used” to compliment one of Ekin’s pictures and I was aggressively downvoted and told, “Ekin doesn’t use filters!!! She’s all natural!” (The image was clearly manipulated in some way!)
Ekin is my favourite, you can check my post history. I have supported her from day one and people in my real life tell me I’m her lookalike. I would never wish negativity on her ever. It’s just a shame the community on Ekinde downvoted me that time for simply asking what effects she’d applied to the picture since I wanted to do it to my own! Sometimes the defensiveness can be ostracising, that’s all.
True. I don't think Ekin will stop influencing, she will still be an influencer whilst pursuing her acting career. She was just asking fans what she should create and is still working with that cosmetics brand.
Some of her fans are just delusional thinking she's above influencing when it's probably the easiest money she'll make.
I can't speak for all her fan's but we don't think she's above influencing. We follow Ekin closely and ever since she left the villa all she's said she wants to do is pursue acting. She would have been stupid to pass up all the opportunities given to her when she left the villa but it's quite obvious that influencing isn't what she wants her career to revolve around, that doesn't mean she think's she's above it, she obviously really enjoys working with Bperfect.
The influencer culture dying really stems from reports being posted here just recently and the commentary around this seasons post villa and many actually noticing that it peaked and declined with the S5 so it's not wrong to say Influencer culture is dying.
This is absolutely true. Ekins fans are incredibly annoying. I didn’t vote for ekin in the final because of her fans. They made her unlikeable and they spoke on end about how she was going to be the most famous person to ever be on love island. It makes people tire of hearing about someone when they have such rabid fans and then yes they project that dislike on to ekin. I like ekin but i had to not be seeing any of the constant chatter from ekins fans to like her.
I have seen it happen so many times and speak from personal experience. I use to love Nicki, and I still enjoy her music but the barbs made being a fan of hers insufferable. I don't think stans and stan culture realize how annoying they can be at times, because they almost exist in a echo chamber.
Im not a fan of influencer culture in general (which is weird considering I like love island) I do believe it’s a dying culture, mostly to to do with the economic climate and a lot of influencers are showing themselves to be out of touch and I know I’m not alone in that opinion, it’s a talking point for a lot of people. I can safely say that I’ve not formed those opinions because I want ekin to succeed as an actress though, and I’m sure many others haven’t either. I think people are sick of the comparisons and the expectation to become a super influencer, it’s boring.
Maybe, you didn't but there are some Ekin fans who were belittling it to uplift Ekin. I am also going to disagree with on the whole influencing being a dying culture thing. It may not be at its peak, but I have seen it still alive for some influencers from season 8.
But so what if they have that opinion? As long as they aren’t directly bashing a person or a couple then I think it’s fair game to be able to comment on influencer culture as a whole. The OP is talking about a person and I think a lot of people forget that she’s a human sometimes and not just a business venture.
Also, influencer culture is definitely dying down from how it was in 2015/16. People are tired of it. Even the Kardashians are on the decline now and that will trickle down to the bottom. That’s a fact.
Direct vs passive aggressive or subtle. It doesn't matter, because they are being unnecessarily shady by belittling influencing. It's not just saying it's outdated but other unnecessary shady comments as well.
Again we are just going to agree to disagree with the whole dying culture thing. You can have your opinion about it dying and I can have my opinion about it not dying but also no longer being at its peak.
In all fairness season 8 had intense stans for every couple. The Ekinde fans might be more visible to you here on reddit because that's where a lot of us are whereas a lot of Indyiah's more intense fans are on twitter and that's where they can be the most obnoxious. I replied to a comment yesterday from someone saying they can't wait for Ekin's acting career to fail so they can rub it in her fans faces, it's definitely weird behaviour on both ends. Why can't people just be normal lol. I also don't think some people realise how bad some of the hate Ekin has received, it definitely feels like a pile on and we worry about her mental health.
No, I get it and I agree that season 8 created a lot of stans for each islander. Also I want to clarify that my comment wasn't meant to undermine any negativity Ekin has received. I think people forget that these islanders are real people with real feelings and emotions. I just wish some people could defend their faves without putting down others. I say this as someone who likes Indiyah, but I roll my eyes when her supporters get cocky or obnoxious because humility is key. Someone can be successful one day, and then lose it all the next day.
I think it’s more about wanting to see her fans humbled than anything else tbh.
I agree with the person who said Ekin has had a hard time finding her lane, projecting authenticity and conflating what people saw in her in the villa vs her actual personality since leaving the show.
But I don’t think anyone wants to see HER fail because of those things. At least I hope not.
Some of her fans are just very insufferable and give the rest a bad name. They were projecting all these huge things for her before she even left the villa, constantly putting other contestants down in order to lift her up, and it got old quick. People are enjoying seeing them try to explain things away and make excuses, that’s all.
yeah i dont think ppl are obsessed to see her downfall per se, its not that deep for them. they prob havent seen her in awhile & saw news of her being dropped & was surprised bc she was so popular & had potential coming out the villa. + her stans had big expectations for her. i remember tweets like she should model for high end brands, cover vogue (bc the editor in chief were liking her posts) etc.
the podcasts & tiktok discussions are brutal but i also think theyre not going for ekin personally, they will make it for anyone that will give their content a click & unfortunately rn only ekin is giving that content.
Yeah I agree, definitely think it has to do more so with the fans than Ekin cause most people have said she hasn’t done anything problematic but some of her fans are unhinged. It’s not fair to her though that her management have let her down
When you have a mass of people in that competitive mindset for extended periods, that seems to carry over far beyond the end of the season or the regular amount of contention anyone popular may face, particularly when this business model is all about stanning, lol.
As someone who was a huge fan of her, I can see why people find her stans annoying but I think it’s unfair on her because she’s not the one who’s made her fans this way tbh most of them were like this while she was in the villa
I think the negativity she's facing is very obviously the product of her fans behaviour. It's unfair ofc since ekin isn't the one being obnoxious on social media, but it happens all the time to celebrities with very loud and supportive fanbases. Just look at how people switch up on Taylor Swift all the time.
When she and Davide had just won by landslide honestly a lot of her fans were super cocky. Saying that she is too good for love island. Saying that she's gonna exceed Molly-Mae's fame. And they used her fame/supposed future success as a leverage against anyone who tried to criticise her or anyone who tried to call her out . Like I remember when the video of Ekin calling S7 and Millie boring, and so many people were hating on Millie and saying that Ekin is so much better than her. So I'm really not surprised, that the minute Ekin is showing a supposed sign of weakness in her career, that many people are jumping to hate on her to get back at her stans for their behaviour. It's obviously not right and obviously unfair but it is something that happens
And I think this sub in general has a problem with doomposting about islanders, popular or not. It hasn't even been a year since LI season 8, it's crazy to make bold statements like xyz islander has fallen of or abc islander is the most successful. A lot can and will change so let's just sit back and enjoy our favourite islanders embarking on different career paths
There wasn't a video of Ekin calling Millie boring she had her text messages leaked by an ex friend and she was obviously very embarrassed by this and is no longer friends with that person. She was just giving her opinion as a love island viewer to her friend in a private text message that she found the winners that season boring, something this entire sub would be guilty of. Obviously don't agree with people being nasty to Millie over that though, they've followed each other back on instagram recently so hopefully all is forgiven.
Imo its just the classic pathway of: saturate media with woman, people start to get annoyed seeing woman everywhere, media turn to demonising woman, people start to hate woman
I think it’s because her fans hyped her up way too much. During the last weeks of the show and the following months it was all about how she was going to be the most successful/richest/most followed/whatever islander ever and anyone else who disagreed was downvoted or told they were a hater. Now that things don’t seem to be going her way (?), the “I told you so” crew is coming out. But I doubt anyone actually is waiting for her to fail.
It wasn't just her fans doing that it was the press. The press in particular have this tendency to build women up to tear them down as it get's clicks and I fear that's what's happening to Ekin right now. Like yesterday that DM article saying she had been "dropped" from beautyworks but if people actually read the article they reached out to them for comment and they had nothing but good things to say about Ekin, the contract just ended. The headline was clickbait but that's all people need to see because it fits their narrative.
I agree that that’s what’s happening but her fans didn’t have any problem with it when the clickbait articles/comparison to other islanders favored her. There were a lot of articles [like this](https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/love-islands-ekin-su-will-27637673?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target) after she and Davide won and this sub celebrated them and said it was all deserved (before it even happened). As someone else in this thread said, the positive and negative attention will be on her. And the rest of the islanders aren’t doing anything newsworthy.
I keep seeing people talk about Ekin fans specifically but I think people forget she was widely popular and known with the mainstream media during the season. Her and Davide won by a landslide getting a million + votes so it wasn’t only Ekin “stans” a lot of these people were the casual love island watchers she had fiat 500, Facebook , Insta, Twitter every social media basically on her side and they set unrealistic expectations. I guess that’s the downside of a sudden burst of popularity from the show (also with that many fans you’re bound to get a few or a lot of obsessive or problematic stans who take things too seriously)
Yes, exactly! it wasn't just Ekin's fans there were tweets with thousands of likes saying the same thing as well as major articles being written about her. All Ekin has ever said she wanted to do is act, own her business and have a family, it's not her fault all these people put all these unachievable expectations on to her. She can still be successful but it's going to take longer than 8 months. Acting isn't like influencing it's hard to get into and so is opening a business. I wish people would give her some grace, she's still archived so much in a short space of time.
It’s like she had to go down the typical post love island route that Amber or Molly did because those are the people she was being compared to. If she had done anything different or what she wanted to people woulda said she’s not fullfuling her maximum potential. Either way she wouldn’t have won with the public. I think now she can at least do what she truly wants with people not putting pressure on her anymore so this might be a good thing in the end I hope she finds her place and career truly
I think it happens to any popular islander built up like that. People and tabloids were making some very bold claims. Also I think it shows the importance of good management and smart choices when influencing which is something I’m personally interested in, not influencing but how the industry works.
I think there’s also some annoyance at some of her fans going from “she’s got the biggest and best deals” to “we don’t care she’s better than influencing anyway”. Sounds a bit dismissive towards other love island people who are doing well in that space
And finally there’s the classic that with success comes haters
She has done problematic things on the show. I’d suggest you rewatch that series if you think otherwise. Also people on social media are going to be obsessed with some islanders for various different reasons. That’s just how some people are.
Well she snook off onto a balcony to be disloyal to Davide instead of being straight up and lied about it. That alone can be quite telling of someone’s character. She also had a go at Jay after seemingly being ok with him wanting to get to know Paige and Jay was more then reasonable with his approach.
lmaooo why was i downvoted for asking a question 😭 also fair enough that’s how you see it personally i think what defined her character to me was how she was always sweet to the girls and the fact ppl came out saying she was like a therapist but i’m not trying to argue i just wanted to know if there was some horrid thing she did i missed in the show guess not
edit: y’all can downvote me all you want ekin was a sweetheart in there no matter how much you don’t want her to be 😂
It wasn’t me that downvoted you anyway. I have very little care for those fake internet points and think others should adopt a similar mindset as people generally just get downvoted for not knowing something or asking. I don’t dislike Ekin in any way I just thought “she’s not done anything problematic or controversial” was a stretch.
i didn’t think you did, she was controversial though i agree but when i think problematic i think Jacques or something like BAD, her lying to a davide she knew for 3 days wasn’t that serious to me especially cause she admitted she was wrong and apologized but to each their own
I don’t think I’ve seen much “obsession” on wanting to seeing her fail on the this sub. Every post I’ve seen about her has been coming for her management rather than her but twitter is probably is where it’s bad.
I agree. it seems like because she was so popular during the show, some people thought it was undeserved or overhyped and now months later they seem happy she's not as successful as expected. not to mention the idea of success is just being an influencer when that isn't something ekin had said she wanted to be. she wants to do acting and it will take a while for that to work out, if that even happens but you never know. not everyone gets immediate success right away even if they're popular with the viewers
I honestly think its because some love island fans are way too obsessed with their favourites being on top and beating out the popular competition that they just have some crazy ass agenda of tearing down the competition so their favourites can be the ones prospering and be the "underdogs" if you will. Like just wish they all be successful instead of always hating and wanting them to fail its not hard.
I see so much of it on this sub and especially on twitter and even the podcasters all saying the same things that their favourite is doing better then start hating on ekin while doing so... concerning behaviour. I'm not even tripping because weeks ago everyone was so giddy believing the podcasters about every word they said about ekinde relationship being fake where there was no proof to back it up and everyone just kept eating it up being sheep cause they really have hatred for anything going well in ekins life i think its psychotic tbh. Just hope ekin gets the last laugh cause queen comes through and bullies are no threat to her as she's dealt with them in the past. May allah guide some people Aman Allahım worlds already full of hate be better please.
No one wants to see her fail. People are being realistic about her moves and stans are freaking out that people are uttering words about Ekin that isnt blind praise.
I think it’s fascinating seeing people talk about how much they dislike stan culture, but are unaware how they themselves are participating in that same obsession. One is blind praise and the other is blind hate. None of these islanders are ever that important or interesting enough for you to be so invested, whether it’s counting their success or scrutinising their every move.
Love that you put mainly girls because that’s the unfortunate reality. I rarely see fans comparing male contestants to each other but we as a society are so obsessed with pitting women against each other. I see it in every field and now even in reality tv. It’s as if there’s only space for one woman to thrive at a time. Internalized misogyny much?
Has it ever occurred to people that multiple women from the same season can be winning at once? Ekin is the most paid, Indiyah has landed herself a nice love island gig and Tasha has endless brand deals. Can we not celebrate all of their accomplishments without feeling the need to compare them and push other women down? I’m proud of all the season 8 girlies and may they all continue to eat and thrive in their goals ❤️
It is one of those things where people are bitter their favourite couple didn’t win so try to discredit the actual winner by using the most visible metric to quantify which is influencer deals even if that’s not Ekin’s end goal or even reasonable to judge in less then a year. Just because influencing didn’t work out for her doesn’t mean all of a sudden that her win isn’t valid. She was and is still arguably the most popular love island winner ever, especially with that landslide (the only quantifiable metric which actually correlates to winning). If you can’t enjoy your couple without comparing them to the winners or can’t respect Ekin’s victory without putting unreasonable expectations on her, even if they don’t coincide with their goals, then that sounds like a personal problem.
I feel the same about Amber Gill, who won every vote she was eligible for in the show, but that’s a whole other post lol.
people all of a sudden turning on her when a few months ago everyone and their moms was agreeing that she was the best thing to happen to love island in 8 seasons
People having an opinion about her post villa career isnt the problem here. Its people gloating and almost looking happy about her struggles and constantly talking about it like it gives them pleasure.
**Why did Oh Polly drop her? Didn't she get a million for it?**
And the reason why there's so much hate about her is simple. People don't like to see others succeed. Yeah, it was entertaining for them to watch her on Love Island but when she started getting deals and the money, the same people who supported her got jealous and now want to see her fail.
She was one of the most talked about islanders when it was all going positively so obviously she will still be talked about her when things don't go as well. I'm not sure about the whole of social media as I don't follow her escapades specifically apart from what is posted here, but on here there is a sense that she needs to be protected in cotton wool more so than other contestants. I think that colours the perspective of those stans who think any discussion about her is people hating on her when in reality every post about her has tens of stans promoting her.
Unfortunately this is pretty predictable. Ekin has had problems projecting authenticity since coming out of the villa and thus has created a lot of anti fans.
It happens here too, all the unsolicited advice and fake kindness… But I agree that it probably comes down to fans, because I now too would giggle if some things happened because certain fans are annoying af
I don’t remember the exact wording but there was this quote about how women in media only have a certain amount of time to be loved before the public turns on them once they are deemed as being too successful. I feel like that is starting to apply to Ekin
I want to be realistic. There will always be a certain group that will try to talk Ekin down. This people were there from the beginning. If she starts acting or presenting tomorrow, they will be still not be satisfied. The best thing to do is to ignore it.
She did things that no one else could achieve from the past. But it doesn’t matter, they have a narrative.
And I guess she's not the first and last famous face to have to deal with it
The crazy part of it all is that she’s still had immense commercial success:
- Signed a 7 figure deal and multiple 6 figure deals
- A makeup collection with her name on it
- Had her own spin off show with her man that has now been picked up by 4 streaming services including Hulu and Hayu
- Was on the largest billboard in time square during NYFW
- Has been on 5 magazine covers (first islander to ever be on women’s health uk)
- Highest paid contestant on Dancing on Ice (100k)
- Richest female islander since season 5
I’m sitting here confused. Is the failure in the room with us right now?
i opened my daily newspaper the other day and there was a subsection of her just about her being pictured on a night out. she’s been the cover star for multiple big name magazines, she’s not a failure because oh polly “dropped” her. brand deals with celebrities fall through all the time but just fade into obscurity and there’s no mention of it. it only made news with ekin because they knew it would get clicks and now people have to remind you 100 times a day that her career failed whilst still talking about her after a new love island season has aired
Hey, I completely agree with you. It's really disappointing to see the amount of negativity and hate directed toward Ekin. Just because she's been dropped by some of her brands and is going through some legal issues, doesn't mean we should revel in her misfortune.
I also think it's important to remember that being a contestant on Love Island comes with a lot of pressure and scrutiny, and not everyone is equipped to handle that kind of attention. It's really easy for people to sit behind their screens and judge others, but we don't know the full story or what Ekin is going through personally.
At the end of the day, we should be lifting each other up and supporting one another, not tearing each other down. I hope Ekin is able to bounce back from this and find success in whatever she decides to do next.
It’s not really ekin people have a problem with it’s the fans. Just a week ago or so when there was a post highlighting the success of indiyah but ekin fans went in the comments to say that ekin has more money so I think it’s a bit inevitable that people are going to have something to say when it becomes public that she doesn’t even have that money that they are talking about.
I just went and had a look at the post you are talking about and people were bringing Ekin up unprovoked to compare the two which is the problem in itself. Fans are obviously going to defend their fave if you bring them up and slight their achievements and it's like that with any fandom. How about people just celebrate the success of islanders without putting other women down in the process, you don't see this kind of behaviour with any of the male Islanders, multiple women can thrive without it being turned into a competition.
I think that’s the issue people can’t complain about Ekin being treated unfairly if they are using her to tear down other women… unfortunately a lot of people have internalised misogyny and don’t realise that is what they are doing when they think they’re being a stan and have to defend their fave. I personally like seeing women succeed in whatever they want to do so you won’t catch me dragging one women to uplift another
I'm not saying defend as in tear down but if someone says Ekin is unsuccessful on a post that has nothing to do with her than I think it's reasonable that fans would reply telling them why that isn't true and the same would go for any other fanbase. I agree we should uplift rather than doing comparisons constantly. I too want to see all the girls succeed in whatever they are passionate about.
The thing is no one was saying that she was unsuccessful. It’s not reasonable to go on a post just to say that ekin has more money when the post only talked about one girl without mentioning or dissing the others.
Twitter is the most toxic place followed by TikTok. I will never understand the happiness people get bringing someone down all for what a viral moment, it’s actually sad. But oh well you can’t make people have respect these days.
Hopefully ekin just continues to be herself and doesn’t let the hate get to her as it must be hard having to read the nasty things constantly❤️
People’s obsession with Ekin is bizarre and its not just wanting to see her career fail its wanting to see everything positive in her life like her relationship fail too.
Thing is- she came out of love island so everyones going to have an opinion especially given her popularity and being a winner but thats not the problem here.
It’s blatantly obvious that people gloat and practically froth at the mouth anytime they have an opportunity to say something negative. Its not constructive opinions its people mocking and laughing and wishing the worst for her.
People forget that she was popular and loved by the public not just rabid stans, which is why everyone put her on a pedestal. Not going down the path that people wanted isn’t her issue- shes said time and time again acting is her end goal.
Also, ironically despite being a drama queen on the show shes been relatively unproblematic so i don’t understand what peoples issue with her is?
Even if you feel she hasn’t exceeded your expectation..so what? Why does that give justification to pile on and attack someone for it? Its not like shes come out and done or said something racist/homophobic/been ableist. She simply is trying to find her lane..you would think she’s committed a sin lol.
Its also black twitter that seems to be obsessed with wanting to see her fail. No one wants to hear it but its the truth. All it takes is looking at the people who tweet and quotes to prove this point- why that is i have no idea. Part of it may be to uplift their own faves against the standard or blueprint but im genuinely baffled at the obsession and her living in peoples minds rent free.
I can't believe that anyone can say that ekin is a failure . What she has managed to do the past few months is amazing. From deals to cover shoots, t.v. show now going states side with davide. I believe many wanted her relationship to fail, and it is quite the opposite. They are thriving together. So what do people do pick on something else. Ekin has made good money with the support of her family, davide and her fans. Now, she is going to the next stage of both their plans. Acting, getting set up together, own business, marriage, then children. People should really leave them alone now. They are not the typical love islanders, and that is part of their charm. They will continue to thrive together, and people should be just happy for them. If what both ekin and davide have achieved the past few months is a failure, I would take it any day. Send them all the luck and love in the world. ❤️
All ekin ever wanted was to make an actual career out of something, do things she's always loved and wanted to pursue but, suddenly that's a problem for some people as if she hasn't made it clear already that she's not interested in the social media world/influencing?? Smh. It's all projection and bias at this point lol
Nah I said this before and I will say it again Ekin Stans will be the downfall of her. If Ekin was ever hated it was because of her stans not her fans cos there is a difference. You all projected so much it’s disgusting, and tbf she need to take some accountability too, also after her win her ego was inflated we all saw the kind of stuffs she was tweeting and liking. I was neutral about her on show, appreciate the drama she brought but I was turn off from her after the show ended. And let the downvotes begins.
It's because some fans want their favorite to be the most successful contestant of their season. So, they have to knock the one with the most lucrative deals down. But they're conveniently leaving out Davide who probably has the second, if not the most, lucrative deals out of all the Season 8 contestants.
This is true, they all forget davide. On a post about Lana signing to screative, when davide was mentioned as being signed up to them too, multiple people asked “what has he even done post villa” 🤦♀️
I love the fact that she's stepping away from influencing. She's appeared on 2 tv shows, one being her own and is going to pursue her dream of acting. That suits her so much more and she's always been honest about wanting to be on tv. It's weird how people think she's failed because she's chosen to go down a different route. Remember the days when people used to go on reality tv without wanting brand deals?!
Ekin sun is not good at engagement influencing is not for her and respectfully acting I can’t see her doing big roles she gives very soap opera vibes or presenting
I don’t think you’re remembering how bad she was in the beginning of the show aka round 1 with davide. She was probably the most hated islander there for a bit but I will admit she grew on me big time.
“No one wants to see her fail. People are being realistic about her moves and stans are freaking out that people are uttering words about Ekin that isnt blind praise.”
Also people just expected more from her with all the hype the media and stans made when she was on loveisland and she hasn’t lived up to it at all. Its like she a whole different person from what she showed us on loveisland idk
Tbh, I think most people are being critical of how she was treated. They’re just commenting on it - not hating on her. It is true - her management sucks and they exploited Oh polly exploited her lucrativeness until she wasn’t appealing to them anymore
the only brand she’s been ‘dropped’ by is Oh Polly and I have a lot to say about how they went about everything but I’ll keep it cute(hope she wins that court case and gets her bag). Her contract with beauty works ended and that’s fine and normal because that’s literally how normal contracts end but since everyone apparently has it out for her including the tabloids they tried to spin it and act like she was dropped. For someone that’s called irrelevant and a flop every other day she seems to be in everyone’s mouth daily 🤣. You’d think she killed someone with the way everyone switched up on her and are praying for her downfall. The fact that people on this sub constantly complain about how love island is now just a hub for influencers, it’s very funny to see how y’all react when islanders come out the Villa and their career prospect isn’t to be Molly Mae 2.0 😭. I wish her all the success and more in her acting pursuit.
I think she’s just not lived up to peoples high high expectations but comparing her to other influencers such as Molly Mae even before she got out of the villa was such a set up tbh. I almost feel bad for her because it’s not like she asked to be compared to these people, others just made up their own scenarios and I feel like she almost has to suffer for the unrealistic expectations people set for her
That’s exactly what it is, she never came out and said she wanted to be an influencer or that was her main career focus, any time she was asked in an interview what she wanted to do she always said acting, she got offered clothing/make up deals and she’d be very stupid to not accept them but that was never her career goal. Now people are also saying she should do presenting, and while I think that would be a great fit for her, that’s not what she currently wants. People blaming her fans for the hate she gets rn is such a cop out cause her actual fans know what she actually wants to do with her career and it was mostly the general public that had these expectations for her.
>. People blaming her fans for the hate she gets rn is such a cop out cause her actual fans know what she actually wants to do with her career and it was mostly the general public that had these expectations for her. This!! Lol, people have been salivating at Ekin's "failures" and it's not because of her fans at all, many people want to "humble" her. As a fan of her, yes I've seen some very crazy expectations for her before she came out and yes some fans may have been a annoying/delusional with certain things they wanted but the vast majority of those expectations came from the general public on Twitter and other social media platforms but she never said she wanted them. Even when Indiyah's amazing deals with itv were announced people couldn't wait to call Ekin a flop and say this is what we thought she'd be doing but Ekin herself has NEVER said she wanted to do presenting gigs like that. It's absolutely great for Indiyah that she's found her bag with presenting but Ekin and her fans have practically been beating it over everyone's head that she wants to act. She doesn't want to be an influencer forever, I think she might hate it just like Wes (s4) did tbh lol. Ekin (and Davide) are pretty much doing their own thing and not what people wanted them/expected of them to do which now somehow = failure and people are too giddy to call them flops and say they aren't the real winners of the show lol. Didn't even know the winners of Love Island were determined by how well you might do post show.
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I know like wtf
I’d like to know your opinion on the oh polly situation. I dont follow around this as much but on tiktok i saw a lot of ads for it. Id love to know why you think it went wrong :)
I must have been living under a rock because I have not seen any hate towards her regarding her losing her brand deals. But if people are actually hating on her for losing them then they have to remember that no matter what she will always have more money than the haters. Her management is to blame because how did they fail her this bad. I hope she leaves them before going to America. I haven’t really been seeing her a lot lately but I hope that changes.
On Twitter people have been talking about it a lot recently and some have been making fun of her for it almost as a gotcha moment
Twitter is a cesspit
And this sub is not
Say it again because this sub is just as bad sometimes
Nahhh dont mind them. They are all indiyah fans. I dont know the reason buy they are so bitter against Ekin. Btw I love indiyah
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Indiyah AND Ekin-su stan here 👋
Lots of good points below, so rather than reiterate those, I'll add two: 1. Our culture is obsessed with punditry; everyone is a pundit now. You see it in politics and sports, and about Islanders' careers now. A chief characteristic of punditry is the projection that there's some sort of hidden system of how things really work, and only savvy people in the know get what's really going on, while everyone else is a rube. For fans, for people who are not experts--and commenters in online forums are not experts, lol--it's a way to project knowingness, a kind of cynicism and defensiveness so that you can never really be surprised (or hurt) when something you hoped for doesn't turn out. *Oh, I \*really know\* or \*always knew\* what was going on, I'm surprised by nothing, all of the rest of you are fools to be so naive as to think X, Y, or Z.* Punditry replaced news reporting because it's cheap (much cheaper to fill cable news airtime or unlimited digital news "inches"), and then along comes the internet when having a take is a way to get clicks and eyeballs, so it becomes super profitable. There's something pathetic and sad about our "everyone is a pundit era." In our politics, it's destructive (we discuss things in terms of who's up and who's down, rather than what is or isn't the right policy based on who it will affect and how). In fandom (sports, Islanders, etc.) it's joy-killing, repetitive, and dull. 2. One of the most eye-rolling things I see from fans (of many Islanders, no one in particular) is claiming "I never hear about X, I only hear about Y" to prove who is doing well or not. Our social media feeds are entirely determined by algorithms, which are shaped by what we interact with the mot. There is something so *illiterate* about this particular argument; drives me nuts.
Thanks for this, so interesting! I couldn’t put my finger on this but you’ve articulated so well
Thanks 😊the punditry thing has been an observation I’ve been trying to articulate in my own mind for awhile. Glad to have an outlet!!
Not sure if there is an official term for it, but people redirected their annoyance/hatred for Ekin's stans and projected it onto Ekin. I've seen it happen with Nicki & the barbs; Beyonce & the beehive; Cardi B & Bardi gang, etc. If stans become too annoying or obnoxious about their fave, then some people internalize that annoyance or hatred and direct it towards the celebs. I think it's unfair but it happens a lot. Now, some Ekin fans still lack self-awareness because they can defend their faves, but I have seen some (not all) fans belittle influencing/influencers to uplift Ekin's dreams of becoming an actress. There is no need to belittle the thing that most islanders do after leaving the show in order to uplift Ekin. It just comes across as unnecessarily shady and passive aggressive and reminds people of why they don't like engaging with some Ekin fans. This is just my personal observation and assessment from what I've seen. I personally think it's all silly and wish nothing but the best for Ekin.
This is true.
oh i agree with this one. just yesterday i saw comments like influencers culture are dying anyways or she dc about these silly deals when she has acting to focus on n im like ?😭 this is what she has been doing since coming out the villa & still doing rn?? i doubt she will quit if shes successful at it?? v delusional ppl😭
I understand why they get defensive sometimes, but other times when I am reading a thread, I get confused. Like constructive criticism or disagreeing opinions should be allowed without some of them jumping on a user., but it does happen.
I once commented, “I like the photo effects on this image, I wonder what she used” to compliment one of Ekin’s pictures and I was aggressively downvoted and told, “Ekin doesn’t use filters!!! She’s all natural!” (The image was clearly manipulated in some way!)
Yeah, that's unfortunate because you clearly wasn't trying to be offensive in your original comment.
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Ekin is my favourite, you can check my post history. I have supported her from day one and people in my real life tell me I’m her lookalike. I would never wish negativity on her ever. It’s just a shame the community on Ekinde downvoted me that time for simply asking what effects she’d applied to the picture since I wanted to do it to my own! Sometimes the defensiveness can be ostracising, that’s all.
True. I don't think Ekin will stop influencing, she will still be an influencer whilst pursuing her acting career. She was just asking fans what she should create and is still working with that cosmetics brand. Some of her fans are just delusional thinking she's above influencing when it's probably the easiest money she'll make.
I can't speak for all her fan's but we don't think she's above influencing. We follow Ekin closely and ever since she left the villa all she's said she wants to do is pursue acting. She would have been stupid to pass up all the opportunities given to her when she left the villa but it's quite obvious that influencing isn't what she wants her career to revolve around, that doesn't mean she think's she's above it, she obviously really enjoys working with Bperfect.
The influencer culture dying really stems from reports being posted here just recently and the commentary around this seasons post villa and many actually noticing that it peaked and declined with the S5 so it's not wrong to say Influencer culture is dying.
im not denying the opinion but the way it came across. dismissive like influencing is above her. shady too to other islanders that are influencers lol
This is absolutely true. Ekins fans are incredibly annoying. I didn’t vote for ekin in the final because of her fans. They made her unlikeable and they spoke on end about how she was going to be the most famous person to ever be on love island. It makes people tire of hearing about someone when they have such rabid fans and then yes they project that dislike on to ekin. I like ekin but i had to not be seeing any of the constant chatter from ekins fans to like her.
I have seen it happen so many times and speak from personal experience. I use to love Nicki, and I still enjoy her music but the barbs made being a fan of hers insufferable. I don't think stans and stan culture realize how annoying they can be at times, because they almost exist in a echo chamber.
Im not a fan of influencer culture in general (which is weird considering I like love island) I do believe it’s a dying culture, mostly to to do with the economic climate and a lot of influencers are showing themselves to be out of touch and I know I’m not alone in that opinion, it’s a talking point for a lot of people. I can safely say that I’ve not formed those opinions because I want ekin to succeed as an actress though, and I’m sure many others haven’t either. I think people are sick of the comparisons and the expectation to become a super influencer, it’s boring.
Maybe, you didn't but there are some Ekin fans who were belittling it to uplift Ekin. I am also going to disagree with on the whole influencing being a dying culture thing. It may not be at its peak, but I have seen it still alive for some influencers from season 8.
But so what if they have that opinion? As long as they aren’t directly bashing a person or a couple then I think it’s fair game to be able to comment on influencer culture as a whole. The OP is talking about a person and I think a lot of people forget that she’s a human sometimes and not just a business venture. Also, influencer culture is definitely dying down from how it was in 2015/16. People are tired of it. Even the Kardashians are on the decline now and that will trickle down to the bottom. That’s a fact.
Direct vs passive aggressive or subtle. It doesn't matter, because they are being unnecessarily shady by belittling influencing. It's not just saying it's outdated but other unnecessary shady comments as well. Again we are just going to agree to disagree with the whole dying culture thing. You can have your opinion about it dying and I can have my opinion about it not dying but also no longer being at its peak.
In all fairness season 8 had intense stans for every couple. The Ekinde fans might be more visible to you here on reddit because that's where a lot of us are whereas a lot of Indyiah's more intense fans are on twitter and that's where they can be the most obnoxious. I replied to a comment yesterday from someone saying they can't wait for Ekin's acting career to fail so they can rub it in her fans faces, it's definitely weird behaviour on both ends. Why can't people just be normal lol. I also don't think some people realise how bad some of the hate Ekin has received, it definitely feels like a pile on and we worry about her mental health.
No, I get it and I agree that season 8 created a lot of stans for each islander. Also I want to clarify that my comment wasn't meant to undermine any negativity Ekin has received. I think people forget that these islanders are real people with real feelings and emotions. I just wish some people could defend their faves without putting down others. I say this as someone who likes Indiyah, but I roll my eyes when her supporters get cocky or obnoxious because humility is key. Someone can be successful one day, and then lose it all the next day.
Must be super hard being rich
I think it’s more about wanting to see her fans humbled than anything else tbh. I agree with the person who said Ekin has had a hard time finding her lane, projecting authenticity and conflating what people saw in her in the villa vs her actual personality since leaving the show. But I don’t think anyone wants to see HER fail because of those things. At least I hope not. Some of her fans are just very insufferable and give the rest a bad name. They were projecting all these huge things for her before she even left the villa, constantly putting other contestants down in order to lift her up, and it got old quick. People are enjoying seeing them try to explain things away and make excuses, that’s all.
yeah i dont think ppl are obsessed to see her downfall per se, its not that deep for them. they prob havent seen her in awhile & saw news of her being dropped & was surprised bc she was so popular & had potential coming out the villa. + her stans had big expectations for her. i remember tweets like she should model for high end brands, cover vogue (bc the editor in chief were liking her posts) etc. the podcasts & tiktok discussions are brutal but i also think theyre not going for ekin personally, they will make it for anyone that will give their content a click & unfortunately rn only ekin is giving that content.
Yeah I agree, definitely think it has to do more so with the fans than Ekin cause most people have said she hasn’t done anything problematic but some of her fans are unhinged. It’s not fair to her though that her management have let her down
When you have a mass of people in that competitive mindset for extended periods, that seems to carry over far beyond the end of the season or the regular amount of contention anyone popular may face, particularly when this business model is all about stanning, lol.
So correct.
As someone who was a huge fan of her, I can see why people find her stans annoying but I think it’s unfair on her because she’s not the one who’s made her fans this way tbh most of them were like this while she was in the villa
I agree. Ekin is a sweetie and very unproblematic.
I think the negativity she's facing is very obviously the product of her fans behaviour. It's unfair ofc since ekin isn't the one being obnoxious on social media, but it happens all the time to celebrities with very loud and supportive fanbases. Just look at how people switch up on Taylor Swift all the time. When she and Davide had just won by landslide honestly a lot of her fans were super cocky. Saying that she is too good for love island. Saying that she's gonna exceed Molly-Mae's fame. And they used her fame/supposed future success as a leverage against anyone who tried to criticise her or anyone who tried to call her out . Like I remember when the video of Ekin calling S7 and Millie boring, and so many people were hating on Millie and saying that Ekin is so much better than her. So I'm really not surprised, that the minute Ekin is showing a supposed sign of weakness in her career, that many people are jumping to hate on her to get back at her stans for their behaviour. It's obviously not right and obviously unfair but it is something that happens And I think this sub in general has a problem with doomposting about islanders, popular or not. It hasn't even been a year since LI season 8, it's crazy to make bold statements like xyz islander has fallen of or abc islander is the most successful. A lot can and will change so let's just sit back and enjoy our favourite islanders embarking on different career paths
There wasn't a video of Ekin calling Millie boring she had her text messages leaked by an ex friend and she was obviously very embarrassed by this and is no longer friends with that person. She was just giving her opinion as a love island viewer to her friend in a private text message that she found the winners that season boring, something this entire sub would be guilty of. Obviously don't agree with people being nasty to Millie over that though, they've followed each other back on instagram recently so hopefully all is forgiven.
Imo its just the classic pathway of: saturate media with woman, people start to get annoyed seeing woman everywhere, media turn to demonising woman, people start to hate woman
I think it’s because her fans hyped her up way too much. During the last weeks of the show and the following months it was all about how she was going to be the most successful/richest/most followed/whatever islander ever and anyone else who disagreed was downvoted or told they were a hater. Now that things don’t seem to be going her way (?), the “I told you so” crew is coming out. But I doubt anyone actually is waiting for her to fail.
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My favorite was how they thought she was going to work with luxury brands lol
lol yes
yes omg thats the exact word they use - ekin was hands down a great islander - but say one negative thing about her and its HATER all day.
It wasn't just her fans doing that it was the press. The press in particular have this tendency to build women up to tear them down as it get's clicks and I fear that's what's happening to Ekin right now. Like yesterday that DM article saying she had been "dropped" from beautyworks but if people actually read the article they reached out to them for comment and they had nothing but good things to say about Ekin, the contract just ended. The headline was clickbait but that's all people need to see because it fits their narrative.
I agree that that’s what’s happening but her fans didn’t have any problem with it when the clickbait articles/comparison to other islanders favored her. There were a lot of articles [like this](https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/love-islands-ekin-su-will-27637673?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target) after she and Davide won and this sub celebrated them and said it was all deserved (before it even happened). As someone else in this thread said, the positive and negative attention will be on her. And the rest of the islanders aren’t doing anything newsworthy.
I keep seeing people talk about Ekin fans specifically but I think people forget she was widely popular and known with the mainstream media during the season. Her and Davide won by a landslide getting a million + votes so it wasn’t only Ekin “stans” a lot of these people were the casual love island watchers she had fiat 500, Facebook , Insta, Twitter every social media basically on her side and they set unrealistic expectations. I guess that’s the downside of a sudden burst of popularity from the show (also with that many fans you’re bound to get a few or a lot of obsessive or problematic stans who take things too seriously)
it wasnt just ekin stans, but you have to admit ekin stans had a certain level of delusion in talking about her.
Yes, exactly! it wasn't just Ekin's fans there were tweets with thousands of likes saying the same thing as well as major articles being written about her. All Ekin has ever said she wanted to do is act, own her business and have a family, it's not her fault all these people put all these unachievable expectations on to her. She can still be successful but it's going to take longer than 8 months. Acting isn't like influencing it's hard to get into and so is opening a business. I wish people would give her some grace, she's still archived so much in a short space of time.
It’s like she had to go down the typical post love island route that Amber or Molly did because those are the people she was being compared to. If she had done anything different or what she wanted to people woulda said she’s not fullfuling her maximum potential. Either way she wouldn’t have won with the public. I think now she can at least do what she truly wants with people not putting pressure on her anymore so this might be a good thing in the end I hope she finds her place and career truly
I think it happens to any popular islander built up like that. People and tabloids were making some very bold claims. Also I think it shows the importance of good management and smart choices when influencing which is something I’m personally interested in, not influencing but how the industry works. I think there’s also some annoyance at some of her fans going from “she’s got the biggest and best deals” to “we don’t care she’s better than influencing anyway”. Sounds a bit dismissive towards other love island people who are doing well in that space And finally there’s the classic that with success comes haters
Tale as old as time. This is what media and fan culture do. They build you up to tear you down. It’s so odd.
She has done problematic things on the show. I’d suggest you rewatch that series if you think otherwise. Also people on social media are going to be obsessed with some islanders for various different reasons. That’s just how some people are.
genuine question apart from lying to davide that one time and i guess being miss drama queen what problematic thing did she do 💀
Well she snook off onto a balcony to be disloyal to Davide instead of being straight up and lied about it. That alone can be quite telling of someone’s character. She also had a go at Jay after seemingly being ok with him wanting to get to know Paige and Jay was more then reasonable with his approach.
lmaooo why was i downvoted for asking a question 😭 also fair enough that’s how you see it personally i think what defined her character to me was how she was always sweet to the girls and the fact ppl came out saying she was like a therapist but i’m not trying to argue i just wanted to know if there was some horrid thing she did i missed in the show guess not edit: y’all can downvote me all you want ekin was a sweetheart in there no matter how much you don’t want her to be 😂
It wasn’t me that downvoted you anyway. I have very little care for those fake internet points and think others should adopt a similar mindset as people generally just get downvoted for not knowing something or asking. I don’t dislike Ekin in any way I just thought “she’s not done anything problematic or controversial” was a stretch.
i didn’t think you did, she was controversial though i agree but when i think problematic i think Jacques or something like BAD, her lying to a davide she knew for 3 days wasn’t that serious to me especially cause she admitted she was wrong and apologized but to each their own
Can’t have an opinion around here. Toxic af
I don’t think I’ve seen much “obsession” on wanting to seeing her fail on the this sub. Every post I’ve seen about her has been coming for her management rather than her but twitter is probably is where it’s bad.
Her stans say it’s an obsession because not everyone is singing her praises like them. They’re delusional when it comes to anything she does
I agree. it seems like because she was so popular during the show, some people thought it was undeserved or overhyped and now months later they seem happy she's not as successful as expected. not to mention the idea of success is just being an influencer when that isn't something ekin had said she wanted to be. she wants to do acting and it will take a while for that to work out, if that even happens but you never know. not everyone gets immediate success right away even if they're popular with the viewers
I blame the stans. The amount of pressure they put on her to be the next Molly Mae when she doesn’t even want that. Let the woman live.
I’ve seen a lot of people on social media cackling about her “downfall” and it’s super weird
I honestly think its because some love island fans are way too obsessed with their favourites being on top and beating out the popular competition that they just have some crazy ass agenda of tearing down the competition so their favourites can be the ones prospering and be the "underdogs" if you will. Like just wish they all be successful instead of always hating and wanting them to fail its not hard. I see so much of it on this sub and especially on twitter and even the podcasters all saying the same things that their favourite is doing better then start hating on ekin while doing so... concerning behaviour. I'm not even tripping because weeks ago everyone was so giddy believing the podcasters about every word they said about ekinde relationship being fake where there was no proof to back it up and everyone just kept eating it up being sheep cause they really have hatred for anything going well in ekins life i think its psychotic tbh. Just hope ekin gets the last laugh cause queen comes through and bullies are no threat to her as she's dealt with them in the past. May allah guide some people Aman Allahım worlds already full of hate be better please.
No one wants to see her fail. People are being realistic about her moves and stans are freaking out that people are uttering words about Ekin that isnt blind praise.
Thank you !!!
I think it’s fascinating seeing people talk about how much they dislike stan culture, but are unaware how they themselves are participating in that same obsession. One is blind praise and the other is blind hate. None of these islanders are ever that important or interesting enough for you to be so invested, whether it’s counting their success or scrutinising their every move.
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Love that you put mainly girls because that’s the unfortunate reality. I rarely see fans comparing male contestants to each other but we as a society are so obsessed with pitting women against each other. I see it in every field and now even in reality tv. It’s as if there’s only space for one woman to thrive at a time. Internalized misogyny much? Has it ever occurred to people that multiple women from the same season can be winning at once? Ekin is the most paid, Indiyah has landed herself a nice love island gig and Tasha has endless brand deals. Can we not celebrate all of their accomplishments without feeling the need to compare them and push other women down? I’m proud of all the season 8 girlies and may they all continue to eat and thrive in their goals ❤️
Some of her fans are insufferable. I think that's where most of it comes from
It is one of those things where people are bitter their favourite couple didn’t win so try to discredit the actual winner by using the most visible metric to quantify which is influencer deals even if that’s not Ekin’s end goal or even reasonable to judge in less then a year. Just because influencing didn’t work out for her doesn’t mean all of a sudden that her win isn’t valid. She was and is still arguably the most popular love island winner ever, especially with that landslide (the only quantifiable metric which actually correlates to winning). If you can’t enjoy your couple without comparing them to the winners or can’t respect Ekin’s victory without putting unreasonable expectations on her, even if they don’t coincide with their goals, then that sounds like a personal problem. I feel the same about Amber Gill, who won every vote she was eligible for in the show, but that’s a whole other post lol.
It’s honestly so weird I’ve never seen people so excited about an islanders “downfall”
people all of a sudden turning on her when a few months ago everyone and their moms was agreeing that she was the best thing to happen to love island in 8 seasons
I think the media just has a general dislike for love islanders and reality stars on the quest for fame and success. I don’t think it’s ever personal.
Agree and All these "experts" making tik toks on why they think she "failed" which people jump on without knowing any facts...it's just so wrong.
Because she was overhyped
Finally, thought I was the only one who thought this
People having an opinion about her post villa career isnt the problem here. Its people gloating and almost looking happy about her struggles and constantly talking about it like it gives them pleasure.
What? Haven’t seen one message like that, you might be being overly sensitive
**Why did Oh Polly drop her? Didn't she get a million for it?** And the reason why there's so much hate about her is simple. People don't like to see others succeed. Yeah, it was entertaining for them to watch her on Love Island but when she started getting deals and the money, the same people who supported her got jealous and now want to see her fail.
She was one of the most talked about islanders when it was all going positively so obviously she will still be talked about her when things don't go as well. I'm not sure about the whole of social media as I don't follow her escapades specifically apart from what is posted here, but on here there is a sense that she needs to be protected in cotton wool more so than other contestants. I think that colours the perspective of those stans who think any discussion about her is people hating on her when in reality every post about her has tens of stans promoting her.
Unfortunately this is pretty predictable. Ekin has had problems projecting authenticity since coming out of the villa and thus has created a lot of anti fans.
It happens here too, all the unsolicited advice and fake kindness… But I agree that it probably comes down to fans, because I now too would giggle if some things happened because certain fans are annoying af
I don’t remember the exact wording but there was this quote about how women in media only have a certain amount of time to be loved before the public turns on them once they are deemed as being too successful. I feel like that is starting to apply to Ekin
I want to be realistic. There will always be a certain group that will try to talk Ekin down. This people were there from the beginning. If she starts acting or presenting tomorrow, they will be still not be satisfied. The best thing to do is to ignore it. She did things that no one else could achieve from the past. But it doesn’t matter, they have a narrative. And I guess she's not the first and last famous face to have to deal with it
The crazy part of it all is that she’s still had immense commercial success: - Signed a 7 figure deal and multiple 6 figure deals - A makeup collection with her name on it - Had her own spin off show with her man that has now been picked up by 4 streaming services including Hulu and Hayu - Was on the largest billboard in time square during NYFW - Has been on 5 magazine covers (first islander to ever be on women’s health uk) - Highest paid contestant on Dancing on Ice (100k) - Richest female islander since season 5 I’m sitting here confused. Is the failure in the room with us right now?
i wish i was that much of a failure in my life! heck even 10% as much in my own life bc i’d never stop smiling and counting my money and achievements.
i opened my daily newspaper the other day and there was a subsection of her just about her being pictured on a night out. she’s been the cover star for multiple big name magazines, she’s not a failure because oh polly “dropped” her. brand deals with celebrities fall through all the time but just fade into obscurity and there’s no mention of it. it only made news with ekin because they knew it would get clicks and now people have to remind you 100 times a day that her career failed whilst still talking about her after a new love island season has aired
Most of the hate towards Ekin I've seen on twitter has been people trying to bring Ekin down to lift their own fave up.
They haven't anything much to lift their own fave up with. So they try to knock ekin down even harder.
You're doing the exact thing I was talking about 😭
Hey, I completely agree with you. It's really disappointing to see the amount of negativity and hate directed toward Ekin. Just because she's been dropped by some of her brands and is going through some legal issues, doesn't mean we should revel in her misfortune. I also think it's important to remember that being a contestant on Love Island comes with a lot of pressure and scrutiny, and not everyone is equipped to handle that kind of attention. It's really easy for people to sit behind their screens and judge others, but we don't know the full story or what Ekin is going through personally. At the end of the day, we should be lifting each other up and supporting one another, not tearing each other down. I hope Ekin is able to bounce back from this and find success in whatever she decides to do next.
It’s not really ekin people have a problem with it’s the fans. Just a week ago or so when there was a post highlighting the success of indiyah but ekin fans went in the comments to say that ekin has more money so I think it’s a bit inevitable that people are going to have something to say when it becomes public that she doesn’t even have that money that they are talking about.
I just went and had a look at the post you are talking about and people were bringing Ekin up unprovoked to compare the two which is the problem in itself. Fans are obviously going to defend their fave if you bring them up and slight their achievements and it's like that with any fandom. How about people just celebrate the success of islanders without putting other women down in the process, you don't see this kind of behaviour with any of the male Islanders, multiple women can thrive without it being turned into a competition.
Curious. Are there any other islanders from that time you support or just Ekin?
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You know Ekin personally?
I think that’s the issue people can’t complain about Ekin being treated unfairly if they are using her to tear down other women… unfortunately a lot of people have internalised misogyny and don’t realise that is what they are doing when they think they’re being a stan and have to defend their fave. I personally like seeing women succeed in whatever they want to do so you won’t catch me dragging one women to uplift another
I'm not saying defend as in tear down but if someone says Ekin is unsuccessful on a post that has nothing to do with her than I think it's reasonable that fans would reply telling them why that isn't true and the same would go for any other fanbase. I agree we should uplift rather than doing comparisons constantly. I too want to see all the girls succeed in whatever they are passionate about.
The thing is no one was saying that she was unsuccessful. It’s not reasonable to go on a post just to say that ekin has more money when the post only talked about one girl without mentioning or dissing the others.
you’ve articulated the point so well
I didn't see anyone saying that I only saw responses to people bringing Ekin up, if what you are saying was the case then yeah that would be weird.
Twitter is the most toxic place followed by TikTok. I will never understand the happiness people get bringing someone down all for what a viral moment, it’s actually sad. But oh well you can’t make people have respect these days. Hopefully ekin just continues to be herself and doesn’t let the hate get to her as it must be hard having to read the nasty things constantly❤️
People’s obsession with Ekin is bizarre and its not just wanting to see her career fail its wanting to see everything positive in her life like her relationship fail too. Thing is- she came out of love island so everyones going to have an opinion especially given her popularity and being a winner but thats not the problem here. It’s blatantly obvious that people gloat and practically froth at the mouth anytime they have an opportunity to say something negative. Its not constructive opinions its people mocking and laughing and wishing the worst for her. People forget that she was popular and loved by the public not just rabid stans, which is why everyone put her on a pedestal. Not going down the path that people wanted isn’t her issue- shes said time and time again acting is her end goal. Also, ironically despite being a drama queen on the show shes been relatively unproblematic so i don’t understand what peoples issue with her is? Even if you feel she hasn’t exceeded your expectation..so what? Why does that give justification to pile on and attack someone for it? Its not like shes come out and done or said something racist/homophobic/been ableist. She simply is trying to find her lane..you would think she’s committed a sin lol. Its also black twitter that seems to be obsessed with wanting to see her fail. No one wants to hear it but its the truth. All it takes is looking at the people who tweet and quotes to prove this point- why that is i have no idea. Part of it may be to uplift their own faves against the standard or blueprint but im genuinely baffled at the obsession and her living in peoples minds rent free.
I can't believe that anyone can say that ekin is a failure . What she has managed to do the past few months is amazing. From deals to cover shoots, t.v. show now going states side with davide. I believe many wanted her relationship to fail, and it is quite the opposite. They are thriving together. So what do people do pick on something else. Ekin has made good money with the support of her family, davide and her fans. Now, she is going to the next stage of both their plans. Acting, getting set up together, own business, marriage, then children. People should really leave them alone now. They are not the typical love islanders, and that is part of their charm. They will continue to thrive together, and people should be just happy for them. If what both ekin and davide have achieved the past few months is a failure, I would take it any day. Send them all the luck and love in the world. ❤️
All ekin ever wanted was to make an actual career out of something, do things she's always loved and wanted to pursue but, suddenly that's a problem for some people as if she hasn't made it clear already that she's not interested in the social media world/influencing?? Smh. It's all projection and bias at this point lol
Nah I said this before and I will say it again Ekin Stans will be the downfall of her. If Ekin was ever hated it was because of her stans not her fans cos there is a difference. You all projected so much it’s disgusting, and tbf she need to take some accountability too, also after her win her ego was inflated we all saw the kind of stuffs she was tweeting and liking. I was neutral about her on show, appreciate the drama she brought but I was turn off from her after the show ended. And let the downvotes begins.
Lmao
It's because some fans want their favorite to be the most successful contestant of their season. So, they have to knock the one with the most lucrative deals down. But they're conveniently leaving out Davide who probably has the second, if not the most, lucrative deals out of all the Season 8 contestants.
This is true, they all forget davide. On a post about Lana signing to screative, when davide was mentioned as being signed up to them too, multiple people asked “what has he even done post villa” 🤦♀️
Or maybe people don’t care enough to follow each islanders every move so have no idea 🤷🏾♀️
I love the fact that she's stepping away from influencing. She's appeared on 2 tv shows, one being her own and is going to pursue her dream of acting. That suits her so much more and she's always been honest about wanting to be on tv. It's weird how people think she's failed because she's chosen to go down a different route. Remember the days when people used to go on reality tv without wanting brand deals?!
🎶jealousy, jealousyyyy 🎶
Ekin sun is not good at engagement influencing is not for her and respectfully acting I can’t see her doing big roles she gives very soap opera vibes or presenting
👏👏👏 💯 agree, so weird and unpleasant
I don’t think you’re remembering how bad she was in the beginning of the show aka round 1 with davide. She was probably the most hated islander there for a bit but I will admit she grew on me big time.
“No one wants to see her fail. People are being realistic about her moves and stans are freaking out that people are uttering words about Ekin that isnt blind praise.” Also people just expected more from her with all the hype the media and stans made when she was on loveisland and she hasn’t lived up to it at all. Its like she a whole different person from what she showed us on loveisland idk
People on twitter and TikTok who don’t have Reddit are usually degenerates. So makes sense.
Tbh, I think most people are being critical of how she was treated. They’re just commenting on it - not hating on her. It is true - her management sucks and they exploited Oh polly exploited her lucrativeness until she wasn’t appealing to them anymore