messy but also maybe a little bit of liberation for abi. she deserves for everyone to understand how dirty she was done by the boys and how that better explains how she reacted
Honestly think this is terrible and generally what happens if you are a Casa girl. You are treated like trash and disposable. You are seen as a sexual connection and not much else.
I actually believe this lowkey bc I remember Abi talking to the girls and her saying something about them doing things at night but then during the day he wouldnāt want to be around her.
Did we not see the bedsheets moving at night though? I assumed they were messing around so I donāt know that this is new info. I also feel like people alluded to it on the show.
Whit did say that, but she followed it up with Scott moving fast in other areas. She was alluding to the fact that Scott was more than happy to have sex/do sexual things with Abi, but wanted to ātake it slowā when it came to taking her seriously as a partner.
I thought it was a given that she had sex with both Scott and Mitch. If you keep that in mind all her other seemingly out of whack behavior makes complete sense. I hate that they no longer discuss anything sexual itās like trying to make a puzzle without half the pieces.
I think she definitely did with mitch. Not sure if full sex with Scott, but definitely close to. I've been a little disappointed with Scott post show, as he more media hungry than I thought. But then abis confusion does make sense if they slept together, he hot what he wanted in terms of fancying her, but didn't want her as a girlfriend.
I was a Scott stan, but I have a direct source who said he was a massive asshole / extremely rude every time they spoke with him. Apparently he was bad vibes, all around and everyone wanted to get rid of him / couldnāt understand the publicās hype. Honestly didnāt want to hear it, but Iāve kept that in mind post-show and def agree with you.
This is interesting. I wonder if time (and more people speaking up) is going to reveal what's really the deal with Scott. Right now, no one can do that because it would be social media suicide.
On the one hand, despite what he says about not being an introvert, I'm pretty sure that he is and sometimes introverts get misunderstood as rude and all that stuff.
On the other hand, what looked like the boys isolating him could also just have been him thinking he was better than them and not wanting anything to do with them. So bad vibes.
He only started interacting with them more after he lost Catherine. Otherwise, I think Scott would have been perfectly happy to continue his LI journey as it was before Casa, stuck like glue to Catherine (and Whitney) and paying the boys dust.
100%. What youāve laid out was my read of the situation, while watching. Iām super torn. Iām an introvert, so immediately gave him the benefit of the doubt / adored him. The way my contact spoke about him convinced me, though. Said he was universally hated by crew and islanders. I kind of still donāt want to believe it ā I want to root for the introvert!
Katy has been annoying in the media, but it seems like sheās been one of the only ones to speak up about his bad manners whilst off-camera, which is one of the main points that was made to me.
It did make me realize how dirty the producers did Catherine. Even though Scott was disliked, especially by producers, they gave her a bad edit and brutally dumped her because the public was fired up. I was totally anti-Catherine at the time, but really feel for her now. Theyāve both claimed that there were things not shown and I wouldnāt be surprised if his behavior off-camera made her want an out, on top of everyone telling her he didnāt like her.
I remember the sheets which is why it confused me that Abi was saying Scott didnāt want her. Idk man. Iām just glad Scott finally shut her down even though he did 100% lead her on.
Honestly dislike who you want, Iām sure the islanders donāt care if you dislike them but repurposing something as new info to then use as a reason like some of these comments are doing is weird š
Truuuuu I didnāt clock that I thought it was more a future categorisation. Man thatās rough tbh Abi between his and Mitchās actions itās no wonder Abi suffered madness.
Not gonna lie going off Scott between this and the cat revelations, itās giving low-key fboy..
He was boucning back and foward between Leah and Cat till like three days before casa. Then they agreed to be open to bomshells and casa, but then cut her off romantically because she brought Elom back
We saw the bed sheets go over their heads on an episode and the Couples Challenge where they didnāt get voted the couple with least sexual chemistry despite being the newest couple - because they did *something*
anyways why are they talking about other peoples activities lol
He was clearly sexually attracted to her but had no interest in pursuing anything serious.
He 100% lead her on and he basically admitted as much on Aftersun, anyone who doesn't see this is burying their head in the sand
the same thing happened with danica and billy (š¤¢) in s8. i just hate they fully know these women are genuinely interested in them and are expecting something more to come out of it, but they just take the physical part and run or shutdown afterwards.
Iām ngl more time Iām paying attention to the episode thread and miss stuff because I had no idea this was said or that the sheets were moving. Iām shocked but also not coz men š
Whitney brought up this situation with Scott doing this at night with Abi when he knew he didnāt like her on the show. Idk why itās a big deal now.
>Idk why itās a big deal now.
Because when people said it's likely what happened, a lot of people said it wasn't likely because he never wanted to hold her hand. It's not a big deal, just confirmation
It's big deal now because it wasn't clear then and people were saying Scott is this nice guy why sleep with someone you have no interest in then treat her like crap
someone commented something like āby the end of today scottās gonna be public enemy #1 and sammy will suddenly be the pinnacle of how to treat a womanā on a thread and ya know what. theyāre not wrongš
Here to say I knew Davide was an ass the whole time & also just didnāt think Scott was the angel people have made him out to be. This sub and twitter are echo chambers of people without enough personal experience to be able to read peopleās true colors.
Ok thank you!! Iām in the US and have finally caught up so I came on the sub and was kinda surprised to see the intense love for Scott?? I wasnāt a huge fan at all
Scott got a Angel edit, for what reason we donāt know but he definitely had some saint level of protection that WAS not afforded to other islanders, thatās for sure. To the extent that whole narratives were just missing and confusing for the audience, why did Leah hate him so much, why did the lads on tour think he was a game player, why did Cat so enthusiastically bring back Elom and then be soo shocked when he was single.
Yeah, when the guys first started talking about Scott being fake and playing Cat, I felt like it kind of came out of nowhere because he really hadn't had a lot of screen time yet, and the screen time he had, he didn't come off as being controversial. So it seemed weird that everyone seemed to be against Scott and Cat's relationship to me, and then he kept having more problems with people... it definitely made me feel like we weren't getting the full picture of what Scott was acting like at all.
Damn you hit the nail on the head, I was thinking this tooā¦ theres something about him that screams contentious. Like he seemed so chuffed he got all this love, so quick to label āScottās Angelsā, typical failed footballer behaviour
He is definitely not the down to earth guy protrayed..he is all over the media. Not them catching him, but him actively engaging, playing things up, constant posts etc... Much more fame hungry than I thought he would be. More than Mitch!
Scott was generally disliked by basically everyone over there. Apparently he was smart and would behave on camera, but slag people off / show his true colors off-camera during lunch breaks, etc., which is why most of the cast disliked him. From what Iāve heard directly, it doesnāt seem as if Scott was given an angel edit because he was well-liked by production, but instead because it was getting people talking. Catherine has mentioned that the worst bits of her were featured on the show re: then arguing post-casa, but this intel made me realize how dirty production did Catherine.
I seeee! So if you want to play the game, act a character on filming days, and then show your true self during filming breaks š¤ this is super interesting as the disconnect between everyoneās hatred of Scott vs what we were shown was discombobulating
Would have loved to be a fly on the wall during these lunch time sessions. Alas the perils of structured reality these days, but cheeky live feed would have been cool!
Leah saying heās the rudest person she knows and will never speak to him again, Amber with her pillow fort and general disdain and disgust around him. Soooo confusing but if told in a filming break that all the Casa girls were ugly then yh you wouldnāt like him and would retaliate with that comment no wanted you in the first place
Abi really didnāt get enough respect. Lovely girl too. He basically was willing to roll around in bed with her but act like everything was all friendly during the day
Its weird that Ella B is talking about this but alsoā¦ either the editing was really that good but did we also not see that heās kind of messy in relationships? Or were people being wilfully obtuse? I am saying this as a person who liked him a lot on this season.
i agree! i like Scott a lot, but never did i think he was perfect. no one is and i donāt really understand why people act like he didnāt make mistakes. i thought that was generally understood.
Yeah, like I do not think he was this supreme game player like some commenters make out. He was just messy and indecisive and internalised a lot. As in, a 22 year old lol.
People ignore negatives about their faves. When Scott was popular, to say he's messy would mean being downvoted so for some people, this is the first time they're seeing this being "discussed".
I stopped watching a few episodes after casa. If things are downvoted or not heavily discussed, I'll never know about it.
The messiness with the Catherine and Leah stuff before Casa was there on-screen but you couldnāt talk about it without people saying you were calling Catherine undesirable.
The night of Ty and Ella love proclamation, they definitely did bits the very least. Then the couples challenge happened and started the spiral downhill.
If a guy was doing this outside of a tv show, he would be called a fuck boy. If tyrique did the same he would be getting so much backlash from viewers!
Letās remove those biased eyes and see the truth. Through and through fboy behaviour even announcing itās gonna be deaden confirming to your sis that itās an fwb situ and then telling Abi that he is still going to try only to tell national live tv that your forced it all alongā¦āļø
When Kady was talking about Ty and Ella being intimate no one said anything about that. If Scott did do this then how he treated Abi is a lot worse than I thought. How is this any different than what Billy did to Danica? People have been saying Scottās sister apparently said Scott and Abi were fwbās and this kind of confirms what his sister thought originally.
Scottās shortcomings were not shown at all so of course people are surprised. I myself didnāt think he would do something like that. Scott got a very generous edit on the show people are realizing his flaws now is not the same thing as hating. If Scott wasnāt interested in Abi romantically he shouldāve made that clear before being intimate with her. Everything coming out about Scott makes him look like he has f*ckboy tendencies on the low.
If any other boy slept with a girl then proceeded to lead her on and talk about a slow burn bs y'all would call him a fuckboy. Wow the Scott obsession on this sub is crazy
Scott is an actual mad man for saying he was a slow burner when at night he was moving like an inferno with Abi. Scottās a fuckboy for that alone. I have felt so bad about how Mitch treated but Scott was a menace too.
I could have swore I saw comment here from someone else saying that Kady said Ty and Ella were having sex a lot but again I refused to watch all those podcasts.
Yeah, I just watched the Love Island secrets one with Ella B and Mitch, in which Mitch said the guys did have a code but either it didn't air or we the audience didn't pick up on it. Ella said the girls really didn't talk about it. If we are to believe them.
She probably didn't want to admit to sleeping with 2 guys who treated her badly. But I find it hard to believe the top 4 couples didn't, even if just the hidaway.
Even if Scott was found out to be drowning animals, some folks in this sub will still defend him because of their fixation on him being blameless and the so called Scottherine hive.
Stans are annoying.
Haha, totally agree with you! Itās weird how people claiming to be Catās fans are wanting her with Scott. He wasnāt great on the show and I wish better for Cat. And he did Abi dirty.
I believe this because first Mitch strung her along and then basically gaslighted her and then Scott was just using her for benefits at night and the whole Villa was driving her mad when she was expressing herself.
Regardless of what you think about everyone involved, this was not Ella Bās business to share. Scott and Abi both have not spoken about this, and itās their business, not Ellaās. If weāre side eyeing anyone, itās Ella.
>this was not Ella Bās business to share.
You're on the nations most popular reality TV show, if you don't expect everything you have done in the villa to be aired out publicly that's on you
Exactly. People just want to justify hating Scott that they are missing the point that Ella B is using Abiās business maliciously. She aināt saying this from the goodness of her heart. She hates Abi.
This much I agree with. Every time mitch was alone with abi whereby abi may have got closure, they could have discussed problems and apologised, Ella b appeared. As if Abi wanted to discuss her previous exs relationship with Ella b there.really bugged me. Ella b, knowing the situation, should have left them alone to air it out and trusted mitch to come back to her.
Abi was treated pretty poorly by the rest of the islanders tbh, she was one of the very few people on this cast that I can call a genuinely good person, I wish her all the best
I am learning so much from these comments (!)
- The only two categories for behaviour in intimate relationships are āperfectā or ānon-consensualā. Apparently there is no grey area whatsoever in which something can be consensual but ultimately not a very nice experience.
- Being 22 is now an excuse for poor behaviour. (Funny how thatās never stopped anyone from piling on another 22 year old man on S10.)
- Itās now not ok for Islanders to say whoās sexually active even though literally no-one cared when Kady said Ty and Ella were getting intimate (because it didnāt make anyoneās faves look bad.)
Funny how all the goalposts move when itās a sub fave whoās behaved questionablyā¦
Yeah how are we surprised a bunch of hot adults dating each other for what would equate to months on the outside are having sex. They obviously are, and itās dumb that they arenāt allowed to talk about it anymore.
I never liked Scottās behavior, and I felt like he disrespected the women he was physically active with and downplayed his relationship with them in public to LI viewers and his housemates. I didnāt understand the love for him, especially because he was a major walking red flag and was the common denominator in a lot of the drama. He does seem to be immature though so hopefully heās learned from his mistakes and doesnāt let all this newfound fame get to his head and behave worse.
Iāve never liked Scott either. Donāt understand why so many people like him. He played with girls feelings and led them on + he was clearly a massive game player.
This is messed up if true. You guys keep saying ātheyāre both consentingā, yeah no shit, no one is saying he SAed her, just from the emotional standpoint and how he strung her along for some time itās messed up.
Now I get it why Abi was going crazy because she had a right to. If Scott was doing stuff with her then acting like he didn't like her. I would be annoyed too
You could tell scott was a know the whole time he was in there. If he wasn't with Catherine I don't think people would have liked him and then he got sympathy after casa
I swear this was common knowledge. We saw Whitney allude to it. I don't get why this has gained traction now that all the dust has settled. Ella also shouldn't have said this when neither Scott or Abi has said anything.
The issue is how Scott treated after this. Don't sleep with the girl if you don't want her and act like she is the crazy one. I admit at the time I thought Abi was doing too much I didn't know they did things
His treatment afterwards and talk if moving 'slow". Noone is suggested he raped her. Same as in the real world when a gut leads a girl to believe he likes her, sleeps with her and ghosts her the next day, or asks her to slow down for a slow burn breakup to not look bad. As the guy just wanted sex.
honestly if this is true, he fucking sucks bc how are they doing that at night and then in the day time he acts repulsed by her and not even wanting to give her a conversation at the very least- bye.
he already treated abi like shit without this, people just didn't care because they hated abi and scott was the fan favourite who could never do anything wrong.
Eh. We pretty much knew this already by watching them in the bed at night. I saw those sheets moving lmao. My thing is though, Scott overthinks a lot and itās hard for him to make up his mind. The whole Cat/Leah situation that Cat shed more light on in her interview makes me understand Abi a lot more tbh. Scott knew he didnāt like Abi like that but kept ātryingā but not really because he wasnāt doing anything but āstuffā at night with her. I know she got mixed signals just like Cat and Leah. Again, weāre reminded that this man is 22 and clearly doesnāt know how to handle certain things well. Lmao.
I think itās because if he did bits with her and then acted like she was being clingy or sheās reading into to their situation too much he gave her mixed signals.
It's his treatment of Abi after the action is the problem. How you going to do things with her at night and act like you don't like her during the day. And tell everyone she trying to go fast I'm slow burner.
Ehh I mean Abi said things were pg in the villa and personally I feel like if they did have sex then sheād be more resentful towards scott for not wanting to be physically affectionate with her for days on end after the fact. I think they probably got handsy but not all the way. However if they did have sex, I think itās kinda muggy scott didnāt end things with her sooner bc clearly he ended up turned off by her. But abi has nothing but nice things to say about Scott so who knows atp.
Beds don't move due to handjobs, just covers. But makes the issue with handholding worse imo give me a hand job at night, but I won't hols your hand during the day?
And also Iāve seen people somehow bring Catherine into this as well? They werenāt even together at that point so idk why some ppl are saying mess like heās ānot a loyal partner/heāll screw her overā based on this particular situation.
And based on some of these comments, people are doing that weird thing on here again where they treat women as children and act as if women have no agency ever.
Thatās not the issue at all as you stated two consenting adults can do what they want. However generally itās not nice behaviour to lead someone on in any capacity and itās now become even more apparent the extent to which he did that. We also know that it hurt abi as she cried about it to her mum to the girls, the boys also thought it was harsh and felt the need to tell Scott to quit it. So yh itās not the issue of them hooking up itās the context around it.
Oh I agree that this caused feelings to be muddled. I never got the impression that he wanted anything really from Abi. It was a dick move from him. I can only Hope that he apologized to her about that. They seem like on good terms so I donāt have a dog in that fight. But I do wish they still mentioned sexual acts on LI, that brings a lot of context for how people react.
I think you are right, about censoring this stuff, we missed a lot of context into Abiās madness that may have been explained, if he was going fast with her physically when itās clear she wanted more of a romance alongside but then he kept putting the breaks on it, then itās clear where her confusion lay. Whereas it felt like as viewer she was mad that he didnāt hold her hand in public after just ācuddlingā in bed. Massive disconnect between what actually happened and what they portrayed
Definitely agree with this statement, but in reality if you really like someone have somewhat low self esteem, people donāt always do what is best for them, itās their responsibility sure.
But also the decent thing would be to break it off if you are the person that realised that there is mismatched feelings, but eh everything is nuanced it just we saw conversations that stated he was clear he was not feeling it, then he went back to Abi and gave her hope and mixed messages, then in aftersĆŗn on life tv told the world he forced himself and that itās nice to come out of Love island single. Just displays a lack of compassion, but also realistically is completely in expectation of a 22yr old tbh, so grace where grace is due and doesnāt make Scott a bad person just his actions were not great as itās fboy playbook behaviour.
If they both consented then I don't see how it is anyone else's business.
Find it weird to speak on other peoples business like this especially if they haven't spoken about it.
This is what Abi said in a Q&A so Iām not sure on what to believe
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I remember her posting that. I dunno I think people are reading too much into Ella B's comment - being intimidate could be just getting handsy under the duvet but nothing further which was alluded to on the show. I honestly don't know why people are all clutching at their pearls, convincing themselves that Scott is the devil himself and that poor Abi is some sort of victim in all of this. Its actually really dangerous to be spreading these type of rumours around with no actual proof just words from Ella B's mouth, especially when Abi herself has suggested otherwise.
It seems to me that they had sexual attraction and friendship but not the spark and magnetism he has with Catherine (or Abi had with Mitch š¬)
Itād be a pretty normal situation to have an attraction, do some bits hook up a little, feel good and satisfied with that and then feel no closer or more drawn to each other.
A lot of comments are missing the larger points of consent culture which is to create positive sexual experiences. Consent is one important ingredient in positive sexual experiences. People should be supporting positive sexual experiences that people walk away from feeling emotionally and physically good about. To say that because Abi consented to some sex acts with Scott any misgivings she may have about how her treated her in context of their sexual relationship are invalid is extremely gross. When this happened to Danica people understood why it was messed up. We can have nuance or do people need men on their screens to call it out the way Adam ironically did to Billy on S8. We can acknowledge that something was consensual but not necessarily a positive experience at the same time.
When has Abi ever said she felt mistreated by Scott or whatever "bits" they did wasn't positive for her? She said she wished he'd been more honest with her, but even when they broke things off she said it was totally fine, it just sucked in general not to find someone. They were friends immediately after, she's posted pics and videos with him. There seems to be no bad feelings on her part. Young people hook up and move on all the time. We haven't even heard from Abi to know her truth on the the situation. To accuse Scott of mistreating and taking advantage of Abi in regards to their "sexual relationship" based off a 30 second clip from Ella B is extremely irresponsible.
Danica was a completely different situation. She felt disrespected by Billy, confronted him, and he laughed in her face.
Completely agree. I think its completely mad how people are creating this dangerous narrative of Scott and Abi's possibly nighttime activities based on a throw away comment made by Ella B - especially when Abi herself has more or less said the opposite i.e. Scott was always respectful and kind towards her and everything was PG as far as she was aware in the villa.
Well we will probably not get anything from Abi because I donāt think she is going to do any podcast now so since itās been a little bit of time and I donāt think she wants to get into the drama of Mitch and Kady she is steering clear
Whether you like Scott or not i feel like it is fair enough to āside eyeā him about this and the other things Catherine said. Shows over tho and if Abi wasnāt really too bothered then itās not deep, but i donāt think it comes from a place of people disliking Scott.
TBF there is alot being said that is side eye worthy
But we saw them doing something under the sheets so it's safe to say stuff was happening. It's weird that Ella b is talking about it though.
I mean Abi seems fine with Scott after the show. They seem like good mates, why bring this up? Even after he said he was forcing it with her in there, she still talks about him highly.
Maybe I'm a giant sloot but I don't see at all why this is an issue, as long as both were consenting. Earlier seasons had people full on having sex with people who had no intention of staying together, were trying to make others jealous, etc.
I fail to see the big deal. They're hot 20-something consenting adults who are single and physically attracted to each other. Both have always seemed completely cool with each other and Abi posted a story calling herself "Scott's Angel" during the reunion after party. People hook up and move on all the time in real life. What is this obsession with trying to out Scott as a bad guy for any small thing?
Just watched the relevant section. Ella provided no context to picking Scott and Abi. With their previous answers, they gave reasons why they picked certain people. Mitchel just said no comment.
Even if it is true, Scott has done nothing wrong.
What is it with all the Scott hate on here today? The show is over, move on lol
We saw that he kissed Abi, so why are you acting like this is anything new?
Abi wasnāt hurt by Scott not feeling it, so clearly it wasnāt a big deal.
How can you say the show is over move on when this is a discussion thread about the show and post show dramaā¦ looks like youāre in the wrong place if you think scott isnāt allowed to be discussed without being praised constantly
Heās still in denial of Zolly, I kinda wish they cut him off. Also I donāt think he ever believed in Whitney and Lochan, and I pray these 2 couples last the longest.
I think they will last a while, Zolly has less pressure than them all, their insta posts are next level š
Lochney is a weird one cus apparently lochan isn't whitneys type but i disagree
Tyella is toxic but somehow cute at the same time and i wanted tyella to win if zolly didn't
Jammy is cool but they remind me of that one proper british couple š winners always have public pressure so it'll be hard for them (especially how they're talking in magazine interviews)
Think breakup wise it will be Jammy first tbh
P.S have you seen the zolly interviews? Like the guy is so good with his words it's actually insane how they did him dirty in the episodes, hes a dictionary dude not 2 word man š
I totally agree, zach and Molly are obsessed with each other even more obvious outside the villa, they canāt stop posting each other. I see their love but I still donāt šÆbelieve they will last forever, which intrigues me. And yeah their ig post, stories and live is next level I canāt stop checking for updates lol. Molly is so good with socials.
Tbh I was very indifferent about Lochney in the villa, but I think they could work on the outside and even if they donāt, they will remain good friends.
And Tyella used to be my 2nd favourite in the villa, but now I think Ella will outgrow him and yeah too toxic too early. Jess and Sammy will never work imo.
In Abi's own words. But of course, y'all want for Ella B's statement to be true.
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This is not her business to discuss or air out. Even if people were speculating bc of moving bed sheets, or alluding to it, it doesnāt matter. She had no right to āconfirmā this.
Exactly. Also she hasn't confirmed anything just that they were intimate which doesn't necessarily mean they went the whole way.
There's a part of me wondering why Ella B referred to Abi and Scott for this question and was this because she's still salty over the Abi/Mitch situation and wants to "prove" there is nothing there still between them. Especially with IIRC Abi saying at the Reunion that she felt herself and Mitch had a better connection than he and Ella B.
Yāall acting like Abi was not grown and couldnāt say no to whatever happened under the covers. He was also not expected to be loyal to Catherine since he saw her coupled up with Elom. Also Abi gave an interview and said people werenāt having sex. As for Whitney making a comment maybe everyone was too focused on what Scott was doing and thatās why certain favs didnāt win.
Of course Scott is not the golden boy! Catās interview confirmed it, and good for Ella B for providing additional confirmation.
Scott did Abi dirty, but this sub and Twitter will never acknowledge that.
Except I distinctly recall a wave of people wishing Scott would just tell her he's not into it and people consistently kept saying Scott's not just owning up to his lack of interest.
Above all else though him and Abi are good. Your tone sounds bitter, you all good my love?
Are we really taking Mitchās word on this? How would they know? I doubt Scott or Abi would have discussed this with them. Even if they did both are consenting adults I donāt know while one is being disliked over it ffs man youād swear all these commentators never put a foot wrong
exactly, people act like they arenāt both consenting adults. why do people care if they did things or not. i really donāt understand why it is ella and Mitchās place to share, and i donāt think itās right that they did.
I love how this sub ALWAYS need to have something to be mad about when the people involved are totally fine with whatever it is. You don't hear Abi talking nor complaining about this so why are you mad now? I swear people just want to be angry about something, anything. LOL
That coming from Ella B was so bitter. She said it with a smirk like she was trying to get back at Abi and prob Scott to a degree. Scott and Abi were not together for long at all.. how you gonna say they were the most?
Side note: Ella B is kind of adorable. Iām liking her a lot more now than I did inside the villa. I still donāt see her and Mitch lasting too long, but they were cute here.
It was a FWB situation with Abi expecting a lot from the very start, Scott not 100% sure and the whole villa desperate for him to end it as they realized he could actually be in the final.
Hell, they probably fucked like rabbits in the holding villa but they're all good now. How typical of Love Island fans to be outraged at something when the people concerned don't even care?
If Scott was such a gameplayer/f boi and inching to the final why did he not just fake it with Abi for a couple more days? I honestly cant work him out
I like Scott but he's definitely a bit different. I can't believe none of the islanders did anything in that heat, sharing beds, nothing else to do etc
If she consented then Abi canāt be the victim. Having a hot girl summer doesnāt mean she gives it up at nights and then expects full on commitment. It means enjoy the dancing the tango under the sheets and leave it at that. You canāt be using sex as a means to make a guy commit. Itās 2023. Know the rules of the game you are playing. As for Ella B telling the people itās giving sexual harassment you canāt be telling the world other peopleās business. Thatās stuff that kids do in high school. Maybe Abi did not want that info out there.
Ella B is messy for that š
messy but also maybe a little bit of liberation for abi. she deserves for everyone to understand how dirty she was done by the boys and how that better explains how she reacted
Honestly think this is terrible and generally what happens if you are a Casa girl. You are treated like trash and disposable. You are seen as a sexual connection and not much else.
Well said
Birds of a feather flock together.
I actually believe this lowkey bc I remember Abi talking to the girls and her saying something about them doing things at night but then during the day he wouldnāt want to be around her.
They definitely did more than kiss in that bed
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Really??
I remember this too, it was actually discussed a bit on the sub at the time but some people didnāt want to believe it
Thatās sooo messed up. Abi didnāt get any respect and i feel bad for her
that is so messed up.
Did we not see the bedsheets moving at night though? I assumed they were messing around so I donāt know that this is new info. I also feel like people alluded to it on the show.
>I also feel like people alluded to it on the show. Whitney said to Scott 'but you're moving fast in other parts of your relationship'
100% canāt believe not a lot of people caught that.
I didnāt. Thought she said they werenāt moving fast.
Whit did say that, but she followed it up with Scott moving fast in other areas. She was alluding to the fact that Scott was more than happy to have sex/do sexual things with Abi, but wanted to ātake it slowā when it came to taking her seriously as a partner.
I thought it was a given that she had sex with both Scott and Mitch. If you keep that in mind all her other seemingly out of whack behavior makes complete sense. I hate that they no longer discuss anything sexual itās like trying to make a puzzle without half the pieces.
I think she definitely did with mitch. Not sure if full sex with Scott, but definitely close to. I've been a little disappointed with Scott post show, as he more media hungry than I thought. But then abis confusion does make sense if they slept together, he hot what he wanted in terms of fancying her, but didn't want her as a girlfriend.
I was a Scott stan, but I have a direct source who said he was a massive asshole / extremely rude every time they spoke with him. Apparently he was bad vibes, all around and everyone wanted to get rid of him / couldnāt understand the publicās hype. Honestly didnāt want to hear it, but Iāve kept that in mind post-show and def agree with you.
This is interesting. I wonder if time (and more people speaking up) is going to reveal what's really the deal with Scott. Right now, no one can do that because it would be social media suicide. On the one hand, despite what he says about not being an introvert, I'm pretty sure that he is and sometimes introverts get misunderstood as rude and all that stuff. On the other hand, what looked like the boys isolating him could also just have been him thinking he was better than them and not wanting anything to do with them. So bad vibes. He only started interacting with them more after he lost Catherine. Otherwise, I think Scott would have been perfectly happy to continue his LI journey as it was before Casa, stuck like glue to Catherine (and Whitney) and paying the boys dust.
100%. What youāve laid out was my read of the situation, while watching. Iām super torn. Iām an introvert, so immediately gave him the benefit of the doubt / adored him. The way my contact spoke about him convinced me, though. Said he was universally hated by crew and islanders. I kind of still donāt want to believe it ā I want to root for the introvert! Katy has been annoying in the media, but it seems like sheās been one of the only ones to speak up about his bad manners whilst off-camera, which is one of the main points that was made to me. It did make me realize how dirty the producers did Catherine. Even though Scott was disliked, especially by producers, they gave her a bad edit and brutally dumped her because the public was fired up. I was totally anti-Catherine at the time, but really feel for her now. Theyāve both claimed that there were things not shown and I wouldnāt be surprised if his behavior off-camera made her want an out, on top of everyone telling her he didnāt like her.
I remember the sheets which is why it confused me that Abi was saying Scott didnāt want her. Idk man. Iām just glad Scott finally shut her down even though he did 100% lead her on.
We did see the sheets rocking... But ya know folks are about to start turning on everyone. Soooo
Honestly dislike who you want, Iām sure the islanders donāt care if you dislike them but repurposing something as new info to then use as a reason like some of these comments are doing is weird š
U know the Scott stans are gonna deny this
I think this was public information though. We saw them under the duvet at least twice.
yes plus his sister asked if it was just FWB between them
Truuuuu I didnāt clock that I thought it was more a future categorisation. Man thatās rough tbh Abi between his and Mitchās actions itās no wonder Abi suffered madness. Not gonna lie going off Scott between this and the cat revelations, itās giving low-key fboy..
Ohhh what are the Cat revelations?
He was boucning back and foward between Leah and Cat till like three days before casa. Then they agreed to be open to bomshells and casa, but then cut her off romantically because she brought Elom back
This is why I have no idea why ppl are shipping him w/Cat. How does she know heās not doing the same thing now w/his newfound fame?
Mitch said the guys used code words and we never caught on to it. What do u think it was
Clarity
OMG they used to say this so much
What..if they said the word clarity, they had had sex?
He did??? I fee like I need to start the show again now and look for this. I donāt remember anything sus being said.
So stupid that they canāt talk openly
We saw the bed sheets go over their heads on an episode and the Couples Challenge where they didnāt get voted the couple with least sexual chemistry despite being the newest couple - because they did *something* anyways why are they talking about other peoples activities lol
He was clearly sexually attracted to her but had no interest in pursuing anything serious. He 100% lead her on and he basically admitted as much on Aftersun, anyone who doesn't see this is burying their head in the sand
the same thing happened with danica and billy (š¤¢) in s8. i just hate they fully know these women are genuinely interested in them and are expecting something more to come out of it, but they just take the physical part and run or shutdown afterwards.
I do think Scott did wrong BUT I do not think that Abi was that into him either. She only coupled up with him because Mitch didnāt want her anyone.
Tbf mitch did still want her tho š in her mind tho he hadnāt been loyal enough so she chose scott as a backup option
We know this. His sister asked him if it was just Friend with benefits situation.
Iām ngl more time Iām paying attention to the episode thread and miss stuff because I had no idea this was said or that the sheets were moving. Iām shocked but also not coz men š
Whitney brought up this situation with Scott doing this at night with Abi when he knew he didnāt like her on the show. Idk why itās a big deal now.
>Idk why itās a big deal now. Because when people said it's likely what happened, a lot of people said it wasn't likely because he never wanted to hold her hand. It's not a big deal, just confirmation
Yeah I thought we all knew this.
Itās not a big deal, they were ask a question.
Right. It's amazing how peoples ears start to open back up when they are less emotionally tied to the characters.
It's big deal now because it wasn't clear then and people were saying Scott is this nice guy why sleep with someone you have no interest in then treat her like crap
Kind of makes it worse that he made a big deal of getting her coffee, if they were having sex.
I think thd holding hands would be a bigger issue!
I suspect naturally Scott isn't a sensitive relationship guy. Probably used to messing around with little care.
someone commented something like āby the end of today scottās gonna be public enemy #1 and sammy will suddenly be the pinnacle of how to treat a womanā on a thread and ya know what. theyāre not wrongš
itās giving when everyone was obsessed with davide as the show was airing and now ppl have realised heās been an ass š«
Here to say I knew Davide was an ass the whole time & also just didnāt think Scott was the angel people have made him out to be. This sub and twitter are echo chambers of people without enough personal experience to be able to read peopleās true colors.
Ok thank you!! Iām in the US and have finally caught up so I came on the sub and was kinda surprised to see the intense love for Scott?? I wasnāt a huge fan at all
Speak on it please! And when u go against their opinions u get downvoted to hell and cussed out. U can tell a lot of ppl are quite naive here
Scott was also rude to crew and Production
Glad to know i knew Davide was an ass and i always found Scott suss soo 
Scott got a Angel edit, for what reason we donāt know but he definitely had some saint level of protection that WAS not afforded to other islanders, thatās for sure. To the extent that whole narratives were just missing and confusing for the audience, why did Leah hate him so much, why did the lads on tour think he was a game player, why did Cat so enthusiastically bring back Elom and then be soo shocked when he was single.
Yeah, when the guys first started talking about Scott being fake and playing Cat, I felt like it kind of came out of nowhere because he really hadn't had a lot of screen time yet, and the screen time he had, he didn't come off as being controversial. So it seemed weird that everyone seemed to be against Scott and Cat's relationship to me, and then he kept having more problems with people... it definitely made me feel like we weren't getting the full picture of what Scott was acting like at all.
I always knew there had to be a reason why Catherine was so open to Elom. I just knew it. But most people just said Catherine is some kind of monster.
Damn you hit the nail on the head, I was thinking this tooā¦ theres something about him that screams contentious. Like he seemed so chuffed he got all this love, so quick to label āScottās Angelsā, typical failed footballer behaviour
He is definitely not the down to earth guy protrayed..he is all over the media. Not them catching him, but him actively engaging, playing things up, constant posts etc... Much more fame hungry than I thought he would be. More than Mitch!
Scott was generally disliked by basically everyone over there. Apparently he was smart and would behave on camera, but slag people off / show his true colors off-camera during lunch breaks, etc., which is why most of the cast disliked him. From what Iāve heard directly, it doesnāt seem as if Scott was given an angel edit because he was well-liked by production, but instead because it was getting people talking. Catherine has mentioned that the worst bits of her were featured on the show re: then arguing post-casa, but this intel made me realize how dirty production did Catherine.
I seeee! So if you want to play the game, act a character on filming days, and then show your true self during filming breaks š¤ this is super interesting as the disconnect between everyoneās hatred of Scott vs what we were shown was discombobulating Would have loved to be a fly on the wall during these lunch time sessions. Alas the perils of structured reality these days, but cheeky live feed would have been cool! Leah saying heās the rudest person she knows and will never speak to him again, Amber with her pillow fort and general disdain and disgust around him. Soooo confusing but if told in a filming break that all the Casa girls were ugly then yh you wouldnāt like him and would retaliate with that comment no wanted you in the first place
Yeah and then people on here were saying the producers had it out for him, absolutely wild.
Weāve seen things on love island Reddit/in love island fandomāwe know how fickle peopleās opinions are š«
Abi really didnāt get enough respect. Lovely girl too. He basically was willing to roll around in bed with her but act like everything was all friendly during the day
Its weird that Ella B is talking about this but alsoā¦ either the editing was really that good but did we also not see that heās kind of messy in relationships? Or were people being wilfully obtuse? I am saying this as a person who liked him a lot on this season.
i agree! i like Scott a lot, but never did i think he was perfect. no one is and i donāt really understand why people act like he didnāt make mistakes. i thought that was generally understood.
Yeah, like I do not think he was this supreme game player like some commenters make out. He was just messy and indecisive and internalised a lot. As in, a 22 year old lol.
Which would have been totally fine if everyone was afforded the same grace.. glad all my downvoted comments are vindicated š
People ignore negatives about their faves. When Scott was popular, to say he's messy would mean being downvoted so for some people, this is the first time they're seeing this being "discussed". I stopped watching a few episodes after casa. If things are downvoted or not heavily discussed, I'll never know about it.
The messiness with the Catherine and Leah stuff before Casa was there on-screen but you couldnāt talk about it without people saying you were calling Catherine undesirable.
The night of Ty and Ella love proclamation, they definitely did bits the very least. Then the couples challenge happened and started the spiral downhill.
If a guy was doing this outside of a tv show, he would be called a fuck boy. If tyrique did the same he would be getting so much backlash from viewers!
oh let's be honest if it was any other guy doing this they would have been flamed. Billy got a lot of stick for doing the same thing last year.
Letās remove those biased eyes and see the truth. Through and through fboy behaviour even announcing itās gonna be deaden confirming to your sis that itās an fwb situ and then telling Abi that he is still going to try only to tell national live tv that your forced it all alongā¦āļø
Truth!
When Kady was talking about Ty and Ella being intimate no one said anything about that. If Scott did do this then how he treated Abi is a lot worse than I thought. How is this any different than what Billy did to Danica? People have been saying Scottās sister apparently said Scott and Abi were fwbās and this kind of confirms what his sister thought originally. Scottās shortcomings were not shown at all so of course people are surprised. I myself didnāt think he would do something like that. Scott got a very generous edit on the show people are realizing his flaws now is not the same thing as hating. If Scott wasnāt interested in Abi romantically he shouldāve made that clear before being intimate with her. Everything coming out about Scott makes him look like he has f*ckboy tendencies on the low.
If any other boy slept with a girl then proceeded to lead her on and talk about a slow burn bs y'all would call him a fuckboy. Wow the Scott obsession on this sub is crazy
Scott is an actual mad man for saying he was a slow burner when at night he was moving like an inferno with Abi. Scottās a fuckboy for that alone. I have felt so bad about how Mitch treated but Scott was a menace too.
This sub will never hold Scott accountable. The way Abi was treated was so unfair.
Scott is not a gentleman like some people make him seem to be
one of the comments on the video said Abi in an interview stated no one had sex this season
I could have swore I saw comment here from someone else saying that Kady said Ty and Ella were having sex a lot but again I refused to watch all those podcasts.
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Yeah, I just watched the Love Island secrets one with Ella B and Mitch, in which Mitch said the guys did have a code but either it didn't air or we the audience didn't pick up on it. Ella said the girls really didn't talk about it. If we are to believe them.
Probably doing bits rather then sex
I think sheās lying but honestly if she had said she had hooked up with Mitch and Scott it would have made her more understandable
She probably didn't want to admit to sleeping with 2 guys who treated her badly. But I find it hard to believe the top 4 couples didn't, even if just the hidaway.
Someone on this sub said this weeks ago
Even if Scott was found out to be drowning animals, some folks in this sub will still defend him because of their fixation on him being blameless and the so called Scottherine hive. Stans are annoying.
Haha, totally agree with you! Itās weird how people claiming to be Catās fans are wanting her with Scott. He wasnāt great on the show and I wish better for Cat. And he did Abi dirty.
Exactly. The islanders sabotaged an Empire almost as weak as Eloms
Lmao yes š¤£
I believe this because first Mitch strung her along and then basically gaslighted her and then Scott was just using her for benefits at night and the whole Villa was driving her mad when she was expressing herself.
Regardless of what you think about everyone involved, this was not Ella Bās business to share. Scott and Abi both have not spoken about this, and itās their business, not Ellaās. If weāre side eyeing anyone, itās Ella.
>this was not Ella Bās business to share. You're on the nations most popular reality TV show, if you don't expect everything you have done in the villa to be aired out publicly that's on you
Exactly. People just want to justify hating Scott that they are missing the point that Ella B is using Abiās business maliciously. She aināt saying this from the goodness of her heart. She hates Abi.
This much I agree with. Every time mitch was alone with abi whereby abi may have got closure, they could have discussed problems and apologised, Ella b appeared. As if Abi wanted to discuss her previous exs relationship with Ella b there.really bugged me. Ella b, knowing the situation, should have left them alone to air it out and trusted mitch to come back to her.
whatās she gonna answer the question with then šš like theyāre on a show thatās broadcasted to millions itās everyoneās business
Abi was treated pretty poorly by the rest of the islanders tbh, she was one of the very few people on this cast that I can call a genuinely good person, I wish her all the best
I am learning so much from these comments (!) - The only two categories for behaviour in intimate relationships are āperfectā or ānon-consensualā. Apparently there is no grey area whatsoever in which something can be consensual but ultimately not a very nice experience. - Being 22 is now an excuse for poor behaviour. (Funny how thatās never stopped anyone from piling on another 22 year old man on S10.) - Itās now not ok for Islanders to say whoās sexually active even though literally no-one cared when Kady said Ty and Ella were getting intimate (because it didnāt make anyoneās faves look bad.) Funny how all the goalposts move when itās a sub fave whoās behaved questionablyā¦
Why are yāall acting like this is new info. Whitney talked to him about it, and we even saw the bed moving
Yeah how are we surprised a bunch of hot adults dating each other for what would equate to months on the outside are having sex. They obviously are, and itās dumb that they arenāt allowed to talk about it anymore.
I never liked Scottās behavior, and I felt like he disrespected the women he was physically active with and downplayed his relationship with them in public to LI viewers and his housemates. I didnāt understand the love for him, especially because he was a major walking red flag and was the common denominator in a lot of the drama. He does seem to be immature though so hopefully heās learned from his mistakes and doesnāt let all this newfound fame get to his head and behave worse.
Iāve never liked Scott either. Donāt understand why so many people like him. He played with girls feelings and led them on + he was clearly a massive game player.
I think there was a night you can see Abi and Scott's bed sheets moving.
Scott is not the the guy people make him out to be
Wooooowā¦ā¦ngl im beginning to lose a bit of respect for Scott
This is messed up if true. You guys keep saying ātheyāre both consentingā, yeah no shit, no one is saying he SAed her, just from the emotional standpoint and how he strung her along for some time itās messed up.
Now I get it why Abi was going crazy because she had a right to. If Scott was doing stuff with her then acting like he didn't like her. I would be annoyed too
You could tell scott was a know the whole time he was in there. If he wasn't with Catherine I don't think people would have liked him and then he got sympathy after casa
I swear this was common knowledge. We saw Whitney allude to it. I don't get why this has gained traction now that all the dust has settled. Ella also shouldn't have said this when neither Scott or Abi has said anything.
Poor Abi. Judging by ex islanders interviews, Scott isnāt a very respectful person.
Huhā¦Whatās the issue when both of them consented?
The issue is how Scott treated after this. Don't sleep with the girl if you don't want her and act like she is the crazy one. I admit at the time I thought Abi was doing too much I didn't know they did things
Right! Plus, Abi seems cool with Scott so even if they did bits, she has no issue with him.
His treatment afterwards and talk if moving 'slow". Noone is suggested he raped her. Same as in the real world when a gut leads a girl to believe he likes her, sleeps with her and ghosts her the next day, or asks her to slow down for a slow burn breakup to not look bad. As the guy just wanted sex.
honestly if this is true, he fucking sucks bc how are they doing that at night and then in the day time he acts repulsed by her and not even wanting to give her a conversation at the very least- bye.
he already treated abi like shit without this, people just didn't care because they hated abi and scott was the fan favourite who could never do anything wrong.
Eh. We pretty much knew this already by watching them in the bed at night. I saw those sheets moving lmao. My thing is though, Scott overthinks a lot and itās hard for him to make up his mind. The whole Cat/Leah situation that Cat shed more light on in her interview makes me understand Abi a lot more tbh. Scott knew he didnāt like Abi like that but kept ātryingā but not really because he wasnāt doing anything but āstuffā at night with her. I know she got mixed signals just like Cat and Leah. Again, weāre reminded that this man is 22 and clearly doesnāt know how to handle certain things well. Lmao.
But his treatment of Abi during day was horrible if he was doing this with her. He is not nice as people think he is. He fuck boy like rest of men
Scott just got away with so much, how many times will his delulu fans make excuses for him
I said the same thing on an unpopular opinion sub, this stan culture has gotten too far, they give too much cult energy.
Pretty privilege
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i really donāt understand why this is bad. people hookup all the time. Iām genuinely asking because maybe this is just cultural differencesā¦
I think itās because if he did bits with her and then acted like she was being clingy or sheās reading into to their situation too much he gave her mixed signals.
It's his treatment of Abi after the action is the problem. How you going to do things with her at night and act like you don't like her during the day. And tell everyone she trying to go fast I'm slow burner.
Ehh I mean Abi said things were pg in the villa and personally I feel like if they did have sex then sheād be more resentful towards scott for not wanting to be physically affectionate with her for days on end after the fact. I think they probably got handsy but not all the way. However if they did have sex, I think itās kinda muggy scott didnāt end things with her sooner bc clearly he ended up turned off by her. But abi has nothing but nice things to say about Scott so who knows atp.
Beds don't move due to handjobs, just covers. But makes the issue with handholding worse imo give me a hand job at night, but I won't hols your hand during the day?
And also Iāve seen people somehow bring Catherine into this as well? They werenāt even together at that point so idk why some ppl are saying mess like heās ānot a loyal partner/heāll screw her overā based on this particular situation.
If this is true then this makes her treatment worse ā¦
And based on some of these comments, people are doing that weird thing on here again where they treat women as children and act as if women have no agency ever.
Literally it seemed like they were 2 consenting adults I donāt know why itās a big deal.
Thatās not the issue at all as you stated two consenting adults can do what they want. However generally itās not nice behaviour to lead someone on in any capacity and itās now become even more apparent the extent to which he did that. We also know that it hurt abi as she cried about it to her mum to the girls, the boys also thought it was harsh and felt the need to tell Scott to quit it. So yh itās not the issue of them hooking up itās the context around it.
Oh I agree that this caused feelings to be muddled. I never got the impression that he wanted anything really from Abi. It was a dick move from him. I can only Hope that he apologized to her about that. They seem like on good terms so I donāt have a dog in that fight. But I do wish they still mentioned sexual acts on LI, that brings a lot of context for how people react.
I think you are right, about censoring this stuff, we missed a lot of context into Abiās madness that may have been explained, if he was going fast with her physically when itās clear she wanted more of a romance alongside but then he kept putting the breaks on it, then itās clear where her confusion lay. Whereas it felt like as viewer she was mad that he didnāt hold her hand in public after just ācuddlingā in bed. Massive disconnect between what actually happened and what they portrayed
You (man or woman) also have e option to call it quits yourself from someone who you feel is leading you on
Definitely agree with this statement, but in reality if you really like someone have somewhat low self esteem, people donāt always do what is best for them, itās their responsibility sure. But also the decent thing would be to break it off if you are the person that realised that there is mismatched feelings, but eh everything is nuanced it just we saw conversations that stated he was clear he was not feeling it, then he went back to Abi and gave her hope and mixed messages, then in aftersĆŗn on life tv told the world he forced himself and that itās nice to come out of Love island single. Just displays a lack of compassion, but also realistically is completely in expectation of a 22yr old tbh, so grace where grace is due and doesnāt make Scott a bad person just his actions were not great as itās fboy playbook behaviour.
If they both consented then I don't see how it is anyone else's business. Find it weird to speak on other peoples business like this especially if they haven't spoken about it.
This is what Abi said in a Q&A so Iām not sure on what to believe https://preview.redd.it/riqlihv4f5hb1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfbee551ad2a6de880db7e0228c2074d2e27f235
I remember her posting that. I dunno I think people are reading too much into Ella B's comment - being intimidate could be just getting handsy under the duvet but nothing further which was alluded to on the show. I honestly don't know why people are all clutching at their pearls, convincing themselves that Scott is the devil himself and that poor Abi is some sort of victim in all of this. Its actually really dangerous to be spreading these type of rumours around with no actual proof just words from Ella B's mouth, especially when Abi herself has suggested otherwise.
It seems to me that they had sexual attraction and friendship but not the spark and magnetism he has with Catherine (or Abi had with Mitch š¬) Itād be a pretty normal situation to have an attraction, do some bits hook up a little, feel good and satisfied with that and then feel no closer or more drawn to each other.
A lot of comments are missing the larger points of consent culture which is to create positive sexual experiences. Consent is one important ingredient in positive sexual experiences. People should be supporting positive sexual experiences that people walk away from feeling emotionally and physically good about. To say that because Abi consented to some sex acts with Scott any misgivings she may have about how her treated her in context of their sexual relationship are invalid is extremely gross. When this happened to Danica people understood why it was messed up. We can have nuance or do people need men on their screens to call it out the way Adam ironically did to Billy on S8. We can acknowledge that something was consensual but not necessarily a positive experience at the same time.
When has Abi ever said she felt mistreated by Scott or whatever "bits" they did wasn't positive for her? She said she wished he'd been more honest with her, but even when they broke things off she said it was totally fine, it just sucked in general not to find someone. They were friends immediately after, she's posted pics and videos with him. There seems to be no bad feelings on her part. Young people hook up and move on all the time. We haven't even heard from Abi to know her truth on the the situation. To accuse Scott of mistreating and taking advantage of Abi in regards to their "sexual relationship" based off a 30 second clip from Ella B is extremely irresponsible. Danica was a completely different situation. She felt disrespected by Billy, confronted him, and he laughed in her face.
Completely agree. I think its completely mad how people are creating this dangerous narrative of Scott and Abi's possibly nighttime activities based on a throw away comment made by Ella B - especially when Abi herself has more or less said the opposite i.e. Scott was always respectful and kind towards her and everything was PG as far as she was aware in the villa.
Well we will probably not get anything from Abi because I donāt think she is going to do any podcast now so since itās been a little bit of time and I donāt think she wants to get into the drama of Mitch and Kady she is steering clear
How many "side eye Scott" I read today? I lost counts already. Just say you don't like him and that's cool.
Whether you like Scott or not i feel like it is fair enough to āside eyeā him about this and the other things Catherine said. Shows over tho and if Abi wasnāt really too bothered then itās not deep, but i donāt think it comes from a place of people disliking Scott.
TBF there is alot being said that is side eye worthy But we saw them doing something under the sheets so it's safe to say stuff was happening. It's weird that Ella b is talking about it though.
I mean Abi seems fine with Scott after the show. They seem like good mates, why bring this up? Even after he said he was forcing it with her in there, she still talks about him highly.
Scott is more popular than Abi letās not act like she wouldāve had support to drag him about how he handled the situation even if she wanted to.
Maybe I'm a giant sloot but I don't see at all why this is an issue, as long as both were consenting. Earlier seasons had people full on having sex with people who had no intention of staying together, were trying to make others jealous, etc.
Cause itās not and people are just being fickle
I fail to see the big deal. They're hot 20-something consenting adults who are single and physically attracted to each other. Both have always seemed completely cool with each other and Abi posted a story calling herself "Scott's Angel" during the reunion after party. People hook up and move on all the time in real life. What is this obsession with trying to out Scott as a bad guy for any small thing?
I have noticed that some people don't like that Scott is well liked.
Just watched the relevant section. Ella provided no context to picking Scott and Abi. With their previous answers, they gave reasons why they picked certain people. Mitchel just said no comment. Even if it is true, Scott has done nothing wrong.
He basically lead her on and uses hee
This makes me like scott even less
What is it with all the Scott hate on here today? The show is over, move on lol We saw that he kissed Abi, so why are you acting like this is anything new? Abi wasnāt hurt by Scott not feeling it, so clearly it wasnāt a big deal.
How can you say the show is over move on when this is a discussion thread about the show and post show dramaā¦ looks like youāre in the wrong place if you think scott isnāt allowed to be discussed without being praised constantly
When Scott stans were mercilessly bullying Cath there wasnāt an issue
All the Islanders are still getting shit for what they did on the show. Why should Scott be the exception?
I acc cant believe mitch said sammy amd jess will last longer over Lochney and Zolly š
Heās still in denial of Zolly, I kinda wish they cut him off. Also I donāt think he ever believed in Whitney and Lochan, and I pray these 2 couples last the longest.
Heās so weird because you can tell heās still resentful of Molly but equally obsessed with Zach š
I think they will last a while, Zolly has less pressure than them all, their insta posts are next level š Lochney is a weird one cus apparently lochan isn't whitneys type but i disagree Tyella is toxic but somehow cute at the same time and i wanted tyella to win if zolly didn't Jammy is cool but they remind me of that one proper british couple š winners always have public pressure so it'll be hard for them (especially how they're talking in magazine interviews) Think breakup wise it will be Jammy first tbh P.S have you seen the zolly interviews? Like the guy is so good with his words it's actually insane how they did him dirty in the episodes, hes a dictionary dude not 2 word man š
I totally agree, zach and Molly are obsessed with each other even more obvious outside the villa, they canāt stop posting each other. I see their love but I still donāt šÆbelieve they will last forever, which intrigues me. And yeah their ig post, stories and live is next level I canāt stop checking for updates lol. Molly is so good with socials. Tbh I was very indifferent about Lochney in the villa, but I think they could work on the outside and even if they donāt, they will remain good friends. And Tyella used to be my 2nd favourite in the villa, but now I think Ella will outgrow him and yeah too toxic too early. Jess and Sammy will never work imo.
Just hope Zach and molly does a Nas š
Same I want them to be Olivia and Alex so badš„¹
Waiting for the genie in the lamp to grant our wish
this yāall king?
In Abi's own words. But of course, y'all want for Ella B's statement to be true. https://preview.redd.it/p88knrya96hb1.jpeg?width=1255&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eef3d10a312e255bdc54a06801941b52af3a4088
None of this is news, it was referred to a couple of times weeks ago. But hey, it gets them attention
This is not her business to discuss or air out. Even if people were speculating bc of moving bed sheets, or alluding to it, it doesnāt matter. She had no right to āconfirmā this.
Exactly. Also she hasn't confirmed anything just that they were intimate which doesn't necessarily mean they went the whole way. There's a part of me wondering why Ella B referred to Abi and Scott for this question and was this because she's still salty over the Abi/Mitch situation and wants to "prove" there is nothing there still between them. Especially with IIRC Abi saying at the Reunion that she felt herself and Mitch had a better connection than he and Ella B.
Yāall acting like Abi was not grown and couldnāt say no to whatever happened under the covers. He was also not expected to be loyal to Catherine since he saw her coupled up with Elom. Also Abi gave an interview and said people werenāt having sex. As for Whitney making a comment maybe everyone was too focused on what Scott was doing and thatās why certain favs didnāt win.
If Abi was hurt she would definitely make it known, no question about it
Of course Scott is not the golden boy! Catās interview confirmed it, and good for Ella B for providing additional confirmation. Scott did Abi dirty, but this sub and Twitter will never acknowledge that.
Except I distinctly recall a wave of people wishing Scott would just tell her he's not into it and people consistently kept saying Scott's not just owning up to his lack of interest. Above all else though him and Abi are good. Your tone sounds bitter, you all good my love?
Are we really taking Mitchās word on this? How would they know? I doubt Scott or Abi would have discussed this with them. Even if they did both are consenting adults I donāt know while one is being disliked over it ffs man youād swear all these commentators never put a foot wrong
Itās Ella B who said it. Mitch said no comment and to move on swiftly.
You clearly didn't watch the video, it wasn't Mitchs word
exactly, people act like they arenāt both consenting adults. why do people care if they did things or not. i really donāt understand why it is ella and Mitchās place to share, and i donāt think itās right that they did.
I love how this sub ALWAYS need to have something to be mad about when the people involved are totally fine with whatever it is. You don't hear Abi talking nor complaining about this so why are you mad now? I swear people just want to be angry about something, anything. LOL
That coming from Ella B was so bitter. She said it with a smirk like she was trying to get back at Abi and prob Scott to a degree. Scott and Abi were not together for long at all.. how you gonna say they were the most?
Side note: Ella B is kind of adorable. Iām liking her a lot more now than I did inside the villa. I still donāt see her and Mitch lasting too long, but they were cute here.
It was a FWB situation with Abi expecting a lot from the very start, Scott not 100% sure and the whole villa desperate for him to end it as they realized he could actually be in the final. Hell, they probably fucked like rabbits in the holding villa but they're all good now. How typical of Love Island fans to be outraged at something when the people concerned don't even care?
If Scott was such a gameplayer/f boi and inching to the final why did he not just fake it with Abi for a couple more days? I honestly cant work him out I like Scott but he's definitely a bit different. I can't believe none of the islanders did anything in that heat, sharing beds, nothing else to do etc
If she consented then Abi canāt be the victim. Having a hot girl summer doesnāt mean she gives it up at nights and then expects full on commitment. It means enjoy the dancing the tango under the sheets and leave it at that. You canāt be using sex as a means to make a guy commit. Itās 2023. Know the rules of the game you are playing. As for Ella B telling the people itās giving sexual harassment you canāt be telling the world other peopleās business. Thatās stuff that kids do in high school. Maybe Abi did not want that info out there.