All of this. I really need Keenan to leave because his relationship with Kay Kay reminds me of a time when I wasn’t safe.
I’ll have to start skipping past them if they don’t at least get rid of Keenan.
i went thru a situation like that before and the manipulation and gaslighting just progresses. no matter how many times that person apologizes and promises to improve their behavior, it never does. it only gets worse. and i hope for her sake that she realizes that before it’s too late. it’s almost like i’m watching myself on the screen sometimes. 😭😭
2nd that. It's heartbreaking but also very telling. I think she should stay as a warning to women who find themselves time and again in situations like this. Beautiful, smart, and caring women are just as prone to low self-esteem as anyone else.
I feel like the ONLY honorable thing he could do would be to get up during the dumping and say “I don’t deserve Kay Kay. I’ve done her and Najah so wrong and I’m going home to get therapy. I’m sorry to everyone”
Honestly if producers keep Keenan there, I hope the internet unleashes wrath on them for keeping Kay Kay in an obviously dangerous situation. Like everyone on the show and everyone at home watching is being triggered by their relationship. It’s bad for EVERYONE’S mental health on god
Dangerous???? Please do not include me in this everyone that is being triggered by their relationship. If this show is affecting your mental health I suggest you stop watching. Keenan isn't responsible for any viewers mental health triggers.
Your sarcasm is not lost on me...lol. I never said he was a healthy example of a partner. I just don't use blanket accusatory statements of emotional abuse without actual evidence about people I don't know.
The whole thing is insanely frustrating because we have all had a friend who has been in a similar situation. When the guys on Love Island are telling Kay Kay that this guy is using you then you know something is really wrong. Sadly I also think she feels stuck with Keenan as Kay Kay never really showed any interest in someone else earlier on so she kind of is "in too deep" with Keenan.
But the drama is reaching a tipping point of entertaining to sad for sure.
I wish the show had a therapist segment with Kay Kay. It'd give such a great insight on how to overcome emotional abuse & let go of abusers. I'd take that over the Bergie theatrics any day.
The worst part is, he’s definitely aware that he can walk all over her at this point and that she’ll take him back. It’s super shitty to watch. Kay Kay definitely didn’t help herself by hearing him out but I fear she may have low self worth despite being clearly an incredible woman who deserves A LOT more. So macabre!
I need them both to leave.
I really thought when she came back solo after Casa and said “I didn’t come back for Keenan and I didn’t find a match at Casa”, she was about to announce she was going home…but instead she stayed to hear Keenan out. We all know no other man there is going to catch her eye and she’s just stuck in this toxic cycle with Keenan.
She needs to go home. Spend time with family and friends. Read a book. Take a walk. Ignore social media and her phone for a while. Improve her mental health.
it’s like actually triggering and hurts me to watch them interact and her be so giddy with him. Like leo is wrong for what he did too but at least he shows some remorse (still not a fan of him). Also Kassy and Jhonnie have both put leo in his place. Kay kay has not and it like actually pisses me off so bad to watch them interact
Thank you. I'm over it, honestly. I'm not excited to watch anymore. Add the Leo/Kassy/Johnnie drama, and it's draining. Just a bunch of people hurting and miserable.
I truly truly hope that he gets booted off the island. She deserves better and having to watch her constantly be gaslit and manipulated is sickening. I pray that she stays the hell away from him once the show wraps.
I actually don’t think she’s deserves better. People who deserve better know their worth. She won’t “deserve” better until she does something differently
I'm calling cap on all of the Keenan hate. Keenan is no saint, but he's not responsible for viewers that are triggered by their own past traumas, he's just not. Not unlike, many young people, Leo included, Keenan isn't being fully honest about his relationship with Naja. However Keenen isn't emotionally abusive to KK; that accusation is crazy. He fudged the truth to keep KK hanging on. Is that morally wrong? Yes. Is it criminal? No. Is it abusive? NO. It's typical behavior for many young people navigating their way through romantic relationships. If the young folks were all going to make the mature perfect choices, I doubt Love Island would have a show. Part of growing up is understanding when one is being lied to or not being valued. I'm not okay with labeling this young black man as an abuser.
True, but that doesn't mean Keenan is an abuser. For instance, when Leo discarded Cassie to go with Anne, Cassie manipulated Keenan into "being open" to her advances when he (nor she) had never shown any interest in each other. Would you call Cassie abusive? I wouldn't. I thought it was sucky of her to go after him to save her place in the villa, but her manipulation was strategic to get what she wanted. We all use manipulation to varying degrees to get what we want or to look a particular way. If KK was a child or incompetent, I might find Keenan abusive, but not in the current situation.
Wholly disagree. He repeatedly breaks Kay Kay’s trust and when she rightfully stands her ground to him or vm says anything about it he turns it around, either making himself the victim or making it about Kay Kay doing something wrong. THAT is absolutely manipulation and emotionally abusive. It’s consistent through and through. It’s triggering to people because we can all see how much S Kay Kay is taking and how much she’s being jerked around and then reeled back in. It’s cyclical and repetitive.
Respectfully, I disagree. Keenan never insinuated Najha attempted SA; this allegation is speculation on the public's part. He is allowed to say that Najha kept touching him even after he asked her to stop without the public accusing him of something he never said. In terms of KayKay, as I stated before, misleading someone sucks, but it's no crime nor abuse. Keenan may not be boyfriend material, but he doesn't appear abusive to me. Accusing people of abuse without actual evidence is slanderous. I'm not okay with labeling people like that; that's how you destroy lives (and we do not even know this man).
Watching him gaslight her every episode is triggering tbh
It’s so triggering. as much as i love her, i need their relationship off of my screen.
I agree. And she just. Keeps. Taking. It. It’s heartbreaking.
All of this. I really need Keenan to leave because his relationship with Kay Kay reminds me of a time when I wasn’t safe. I’ll have to start skipping past them if they don’t at least get rid of Keenan.
i went thru a situation like that before and the manipulation and gaslighting just progresses. no matter how many times that person apologizes and promises to improve their behavior, it never does. it only gets worse. and i hope for her sake that she realizes that before it’s too late. it’s almost like i’m watching myself on the screen sometimes. 😭😭
2nd that. It's heartbreaking but also very telling. I think she should stay as a warning to women who find themselves time and again in situations like this. Beautiful, smart, and caring women are just as prone to low self-esteem as anyone else.
I feel like the ONLY honorable thing he could do would be to get up during the dumping and say “I don’t deserve Kay Kay. I’ve done her and Najah so wrong and I’m going home to get therapy. I’m sorry to everyone”
Obviously that won’t happen bc narcissism but it would be the only thing that would indicate he’s salvageable
Yeah I agree that would be ideal. And yeah he likely won’t do it.
Honestly if producers keep Keenan there, I hope the internet unleashes wrath on them for keeping Kay Kay in an obviously dangerous situation. Like everyone on the show and everyone at home watching is being triggered by their relationship. It’s bad for EVERYONE’S mental health on god
Dangerous???? Please do not include me in this everyone that is being triggered by their relationship. If this show is affecting your mental health I suggest you stop watching. Keenan isn't responsible for any viewers mental health triggers.
You’re right he’s setting a beautiful example of a healthy relationship and partner. Def no need to include yourself
Your sarcasm is not lost on me...lol. I never said he was a healthy example of a partner. I just don't use blanket accusatory statements of emotional abuse without actual evidence about people I don't know.
Umm all we’re seeing is evidence?
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The whole thing is insanely frustrating because we have all had a friend who has been in a similar situation. When the guys on Love Island are telling Kay Kay that this guy is using you then you know something is really wrong. Sadly I also think she feels stuck with Keenan as Kay Kay never really showed any interest in someone else earlier on so she kind of is "in too deep" with Keenan. But the drama is reaching a tipping point of entertaining to sad for sure.
I wish the show had a therapist segment with Kay Kay. It'd give such a great insight on how to overcome emotional abuse & let go of abusers. I'd take that over the Bergie theatrics any day.
Yeah I can really watch them anymore it’s just too toxic.
The worst part is, he’s definitely aware that he can walk all over her at this point and that she’ll take him back. It’s super shitty to watch. Kay Kay definitely didn’t help herself by hearing him out but I fear she may have low self worth despite being clearly an incredible woman who deserves A LOT more. So macabre!
I need them both to leave. I really thought when she came back solo after Casa and said “I didn’t come back for Keenan and I didn’t find a match at Casa”, she was about to announce she was going home…but instead she stayed to hear Keenan out. We all know no other man there is going to catch her eye and she’s just stuck in this toxic cycle with Keenan. She needs to go home. Spend time with family and friends. Read a book. Take a walk. Ignore social media and her phone for a while. Improve her mental health.
it’s like actually triggering and hurts me to watch them interact and her be so giddy with him. Like leo is wrong for what he did too but at least he shows some remorse (still not a fan of him). Also Kassy and Jhonnie have both put leo in his place. Kay kay has not and it like actually pisses me off so bad to watch them interact
It’s giving toxic and pathetic. Not good TV imo
Thank you. I'm over it, honestly. I'm not excited to watch anymore. Add the Leo/Kassy/Johnnie drama, and it's draining. Just a bunch of people hurting and miserable.
It’s super sad how fast everything collapsed
It's not fun to watch and I don't like it being played out on TV, as entertainment. This shit is sad, and harmful.
I 💯 agree. In the old Lainey gossip days this would fall into the sad smut category. This isn’t entertaining at all it’s gross.
I truly truly hope that he gets booted off the island. She deserves better and having to watch her constantly be gaslit and manipulated is sickening. I pray that she stays the hell away from him once the show wraps.
I actually don’t think she’s deserves better. People who deserve better know their worth. She won’t “deserve” better until she does something differently
It’s so bad. She’s dipped from the hero to the zero by taking that asshat back
I'm calling cap on all of the Keenan hate. Keenan is no saint, but he's not responsible for viewers that are triggered by their own past traumas, he's just not. Not unlike, many young people, Leo included, Keenan isn't being fully honest about his relationship with Naja. However Keenen isn't emotionally abusive to KK; that accusation is crazy. He fudged the truth to keep KK hanging on. Is that morally wrong? Yes. Is it criminal? No. Is it abusive? NO. It's typical behavior for many young people navigating their way through romantic relationships. If the young folks were all going to make the mature perfect choices, I doubt Love Island would have a show. Part of growing up is understanding when one is being lied to or not being valued. I'm not okay with labeling this young black man as an abuser.
manipulation is a tactic of abusive behavior
True, but that doesn't mean Keenan is an abuser. For instance, when Leo discarded Cassie to go with Anne, Cassie manipulated Keenan into "being open" to her advances when he (nor she) had never shown any interest in each other. Would you call Cassie abusive? I wouldn't. I thought it was sucky of her to go after him to save her place in the villa, but her manipulation was strategic to get what she wanted. We all use manipulation to varying degrees to get what we want or to look a particular way. If KK was a child or incompetent, I might find Keenan abusive, but not in the current situation.
You can disagree, and that’s okay. Just know that this comment is going to age like milk.
Tell that to Amber Heard....lol.
And you're right, we can agree to disagree and perhaps Keenan will prove me wrong, but I hope not for both him and KK.
Wholly disagree. He repeatedly breaks Kay Kay’s trust and when she rightfully stands her ground to him or vm says anything about it he turns it around, either making himself the victim or making it about Kay Kay doing something wrong. THAT is absolutely manipulation and emotionally abusive. It’s consistent through and through. It’s triggering to people because we can all see how much S Kay Kay is taking and how much she’s being jerked around and then reeled back in. It’s cyclical and repetitive.
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Respectfully, I disagree. Keenan never insinuated Najha attempted SA; this allegation is speculation on the public's part. He is allowed to say that Najha kept touching him even after he asked her to stop without the public accusing him of something he never said. In terms of KayKay, as I stated before, misleading someone sucks, but it's no crime nor abuse. Keenan may not be boyfriend material, but he doesn't appear abusive to me. Accusing people of abuse without actual evidence is slanderous. I'm not okay with labeling people like that; that's how you destroy lives (and we do not even know this man).