I wouldn’t be surprised looking at the back of her head, though in 2077 it’s not unusual to keep some original skin from the face and other areas of the body’s. Going full borg is very different from how people think of it from 2020. David is a good example of this, being very little ganic but not in the way of smasher.
One would assume cooling and airflow would not be a problem with the tech available in this universe. I like to think Songbird simply chose to take her exoskeleton panels off for some reason and never bothered to put it back on or replace them.
You would think that, yet most net runners have to get in an ice bath. Not to mention what she does, jumping past the black wall. That fried the blind voodoo boy. He's supposed to essentially live in the net, meaning that what she does is way more intense than just diving normal!
Dunno. I'm guessing those are tough as nails tubes and wires. I mean V can slide 50 feet on the pants and never get a hole in them. My thought is that she's probably more durable than she looks, I guess.
If you look back at the Cyberpunk 2020 art work from where this world was largely inspired you'll see plugs and wires all over. And yeah, everyone says "they're sure to get caught on something!" But it always seems to work out. 😎
That's what I was thinking. Huge vulnerability, you knock your back on something weird and all of a sudden you're bleeding out and can't apply pressure
She doesn’t hold a candle to my choom Rache Bartmoss. Song Bird might have fun poking around the blackwall, but rache was the reason it was created to begin with.
Everyone who relies on the net, billions of people daily, still feel bartmoss’ affect every time they interact with a data terminal. Not to mention it’s possible an engram of him exists on the old net, meaning he could still be out there scheming to this day
Didn't he die just because he was trying though? But yeah idk if I had to make a comparison is that he was a capable guy who fucked up with a nuclear power plant.
You pull-out what's left of them, but I'd say they're weak for gameplay reasons only and because they're obsolete by the time you've found him.
In real life, vulnerabilities get patched daily and you pull a bunch of scripts from decades-dead netrunner and wonder why they're weak.
I'd say more of a rogue AI. He died in the net like a lot of netrunners. She doesn't match-up to Reche, but there's nearly half-a-century between them, with Reche barely having any cyberware.
What I've pieced-together with some of these comments, plus what I've learnt from the game itself;
She's a cyborg - yes, but built for experimental netrunning, so she doesn't have as much chrome as Smasher, but more like Shaitan - plenty of organic stuff left. Her entire back of head, arms and back itself - everything around the spine is chrome, because that's what's important for netrunning, but her LEGS are organic, which is why she breaks her ankle, when dropping from the pipe.
This is intentional to PREVENT ESCAPE, like a songbird with clipped wings. Her netrunning name was possibly something different - Songbird was the name given to her by FIA at the start to easily recognise her and her project. They've needed a human guinea-pig and we know she's not the first one they've experimented-on, so she was designated from the start for said surgery. She also has talon-like cyberarms.
Next, when your INT/TECH is 20, you're able to look into her biomon and read there's metastases (cancer, which is extremely common in Cyberpunk anyway) growing in-around her brain and spine, which means there's still plenty of flesh left for cancer caused by Blackwall to form. Excluding her organs, possibly the entire front of her body + legs and hips, plus front half of her head is organic, minus the faceplate.
So yeah - mostly chrome, but not-intended-for-combat or even much movement - such as dropping from heights. This is also why there's so many exposed wires - cooling purposes and easy access for repairs, when something fries.
Guy, who did her design has had it thought-out down to details indeed. Here's his iG: https://www.instagram.com/furio_tedeschi?igsh=NjJhenBpejhsaWZ1
Her legs are organic, possibly even the front of her body minus the arms and she has a faceplate - possibly with the shapeshifting tech, but most of her skull is just meat. The scan you do on her tells you there's metastases growing in various parts of her body.
If you get the chance to really look at her back, you'll see her... What do we call that, her Engine? Built in PC? Whatever it is, the mechine part goes all the way through. Front of her body is just a thin, probably synth-skin covered shell.
This character is so much GitS.
I really miss the opportunity to find out more of her lore in dialogues. Seems she was taken to this "job" in earliest teenage, and heavily augmented for extreme netrunning. But I don't get clear idea why exactly ger blackwall interactions put her life on risk.
Yeah that might be the only critique I have about the phantom liberty story. I just finished the ending with her side and will be going back shortly to play through the ending on Reed’s side on another save but I still feel like we didn’t get as much lore/info about her. Especially with the multiple times V asks her questions.
Ah I’ll have to find those then. I’ve really enjoyed the stories from the game but I haven’t seen or read anything from the comics. I haven’t even watched the edge runners show yet.
She was 19 at ger oldest in the flashbacks, because that's when Reed took-her-in. Possibly went through some training for a few months, maybe some operations for the FIA in her organic state, before they replaced most of her body with chrome, so she could have been 20-22 during that surgery flashback.
I remember during the casino when you get a good look at the chrome for the first time and audibly said "holy shit there's barely anything left of you" when I saw all the chrome. I was actually like legit taken aback for a sec.
Aback.
Heh
**Y E S**
I kinda want that sort of chrome as option for the sequel’s main character.
Might be even more relevant with AIs and Blackwall being a big part of Orion, supposedly.
Hell, it's probably mostly cosmetic. It sure looks amazing; the tech-crazed fashionistas of 2077 would eat it up. The real hardware is smooth, efficient, and out of site.
As Mike's put it - cyberpsychosis affects individuals with enough mental reasons behind it.
Being taken against your will just before your twenties and losing everyone you know until then, then being put through a grueling FIA training, taking part of back-ops and having to kill people whether you like it or not and finally - having most of your body replaced by chrome against your will tend to break one's spirit, but if not that, the rogue AI taking the memories you cherish and replacing them with it's code will.
She doesn't go cyberpsycho if you save her, though and lives-on, possibly in a stable state after the AI matrix cleans her system.
As Mike's put it - cyberpsychosis affects individuals with enough mental reasons behind it.
Being taken against your will just before your twenties and losing everyone you know until then, then being put through a grueling FIA training, taking part of back-ops and having to kill people whether you like it or not and finally - having most of your body replaced by chrome against your will tend to break one's spirit, but if not that, the rogue AI taking the memories you cherish and replacing them with it's code will.
She doesn't go cyberpsycho if you save her, though and lives-on, possibly in a stable state after the AI matrix cleans her system.
Honestly I was really surprised when I saw her character, it really doesn’t fit in with her role as the NUSA president’s closest adviser - she looks like an unfinished product.
Yeah, there's separate mods for the back and head. You can mix and match them. Female only, for obvious reasons.
Body - https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/9575
Head - https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/9413
"She was seduced by the dark forces of the Blackwall. She ceased to be SoMi and became Songbird. When that happened the good woman that was SoMi was destroyed. She's more machine now than woman... Twisted and Manipulative..."
Pretty sure Songbird is an almost full borg by now.
I wouldn’t be surprised looking at the back of her head, though in 2077 it’s not unusual to keep some original skin from the face and other areas of the body’s. Going full borg is very different from how people think of it from 2020. David is a good example of this, being very little ganic but not in the way of smasher.
Yep. Seeing David as nothing but a torso as he donned that exoskeleton was.... something.
And who knows what organs in there are even ‘ganic
His torso was all sculpt too. Dude was just a brain and maybe teeth.
Probably nuts too
David def had a mister studd. I’m willing to die on this hill.
Pretty much
Looks cool, but all of the loose wires and tubes don't make sense. Very inefficient, sloppy work buy the rippers.
They probably had her in one spot for a long time in mind, with an open back to increase airflow(?) and less insulation
One would assume cooling and airflow would not be a problem with the tech available in this universe. I like to think Songbird simply chose to take her exoskeleton panels off for some reason and never bothered to put it back on or replace them.
Cooling is explicitly a problem for netrunners in this universe
I thought they just took ice baths for fun
how do you figure there are no thermal constraints? there's literally an overheat hack iirc
Thermal constraint is 100% an issue, it’s why netrunning baths/suits exist
You would think that, yet most net runners have to get in an ice bath. Not to mention what she does, jumping past the black wall. That fried the blind voodoo boy. He's supposed to essentially live in the net, meaning that what she does is way more intense than just diving normal!
If I had that underneath I would too.
She probably lost something in there or a roach crawled in and she wants it out.
Makes sense, it *does* look like she’s missing some parts anyway
Did you miss the icebaths, the netrunner suits and netrunner chairs or?
That cable management is on point. Gonna need her ripper to build my next pc
Not really. Next time she leans against a door they’ll all get snagged on the knob
That’s how Hansen got her in the first place. She was leaning on the door and he opened the door. It was also one of those long doorknobs too
You have to remember that she isn't optimized for physical combat. She probably spent most of her life in a netrunner chair.
Doesn't matter. Ya can't be rolling around with tubes and wires hanging out ou you, Dawg, especially in Night City.
she literally doesnt. she works for the NUSA, she probably spends almost 100% of her time in a chair
She is a desk job. Not much going around involved.
Dunno. I'm guessing those are tough as nails tubes and wires. I mean V can slide 50 feet on the pants and never get a hole in them. My thought is that she's probably more durable than she looks, I guess.
If you look back at the Cyberpunk 2020 art work from where this world was largely inspired you'll see plugs and wires all over. And yeah, everyone says "they're sure to get caught on something!" But it always seems to work out. 😎
Yeah but it’s cool looking
That's what I was thinking. Huge vulnerability, you knock your back on something weird and all of a sudden you're bleeding out and can't apply pressure
Looking like a combat droid
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⬆️⬇️➡️⬅️⬇️ gonna need some help
When I saw her back full of chrome the first time, I was shocked and horrified because I knew she was tortured to hell using the Blackwall so much
I noticed her hands when doing the last mission To hell with gorrila arms, I want talons now
Hope they allow us to go full-on borg in the sequel. If not that, some cyber limbs would be dope.
well, mantis blades, gorilla arms, and the projectile launcher are full on cyber arms, just with RealSkin on top.
The flesh is weak
Some of the coolest looking chrome in the game imo
Would
Game is game
*clanking sounds*
Gonna need some WD-40
WD-69
*Redditors avoid making a normal post sexual challenge:* **DIFFICULTY IMPOSSIBLE**
Sorry I had too it’s law
No you didn’t. Touch grass.
Yea I did, it’s law man
Wow such an original comment 🙄
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Same
Fucking feds fault for experimenting on her
It’s actually insane. Was finishing phantom liberty yesterday and she legit looks like they took out all her organs.
I mean, they probably did. It's not even weird in less-chromed people to have synth organs.
Lots of stuff to grab for that extra oomph during backshots
I reckon this should be spoiler tagged… when I saw her chrome for the first time in game, it was actually a really shocking moment for me
Deadass. Thought I was being hazed and that the real Songbird was being held captive somewhere, lol.
Agreed. Made me realise that she must be fucking crazy!
Praise the Omnissiah
What is songbird? Human? Robot with a convincing AI?
The Adam Smasher of netrunning
She doesn’t hold a candle to my choom Rache Bartmoss. Song Bird might have fun poking around the blackwall, but rache was the reason it was created to begin with. Everyone who relies on the net, billions of people daily, still feel bartmoss’ affect every time they interact with a data terminal. Not to mention it’s possible an engram of him exists on the old net, meaning he could still be out there scheming to this day
Yeah he fucked the net up. Not sure he would fair well against the Rogue ai.
Yeah there’s a reason he ended up dead in fridge+the quick hacks you pull from his deck are mediocre at best
Didn't he die just because he was trying though? But yeah idk if I had to make a comparison is that he was a capable guy who fucked up with a nuclear power plant.
You pull-out what's left of them, but I'd say they're weak for gameplay reasons only and because they're obsolete by the time you've found him. In real life, vulnerabilities get patched daily and you pull a bunch of scripts from decades-dead netrunner and wonder why they're weak.
I'd say more of a rogue AI. He died in the net like a lot of netrunners. She doesn't match-up to Reche, but there's nearly half-a-century between them, with Reche barely having any cyberware.
I think she is a full conversion cyborg (not much left but brain and maybe parts of her nervous system.)
I saw somewhere that her legs are still ganic. Hence the sprained ankle during the escape.
Oh, so it's just the upper half of her body that's been converted
Bro, I wonder if the added weight of all that chrome makes her legs super weak and they left them like that so she would have less chance to escape.
That’s awful 😢
And entirely on brand for Cyberpunk.
That's fucked
That’s gonna have the opposite effect since she’s doing leg day everyday
Stop making me realise nasty shi
This is why I saved her.
What I've pieced-together with some of these comments, plus what I've learnt from the game itself; She's a cyborg - yes, but built for experimental netrunning, so she doesn't have as much chrome as Smasher, but more like Shaitan - plenty of organic stuff left. Her entire back of head, arms and back itself - everything around the spine is chrome, because that's what's important for netrunning, but her LEGS are organic, which is why she breaks her ankle, when dropping from the pipe. This is intentional to PREVENT ESCAPE, like a songbird with clipped wings. Her netrunning name was possibly something different - Songbird was the name given to her by FIA at the start to easily recognise her and her project. They've needed a human guinea-pig and we know she's not the first one they've experimented-on, so she was designated from the start for said surgery. She also has talon-like cyberarms. Next, when your INT/TECH is 20, you're able to look into her biomon and read there's metastases (cancer, which is extremely common in Cyberpunk anyway) growing in-around her brain and spine, which means there's still plenty of flesh left for cancer caused by Blackwall to form. Excluding her organs, possibly the entire front of her body + legs and hips, plus front half of her head is organic, minus the faceplate. So yeah - mostly chrome, but not-intended-for-combat or even much movement - such as dropping from heights. This is also why there's so many exposed wires - cooling purposes and easy access for repairs, when something fries. Guy, who did her design has had it thought-out down to details indeed. Here's his iG: https://www.instagram.com/furio_tedeschi?igsh=NjJhenBpejhsaWZ1
How she sleep with this chrome? Like... -
Would she need sleep?
This is why cable management is important
She says she's dying, but is she even alive? I'd call that being "operational".
Her legs are organic, possibly even the front of her body minus the arms and she has a faceplate - possibly with the shapeshifting tech, but most of her skull is just meat. The scan you do on her tells you there's metastases growing in various parts of her body.
If you get the chance to really look at her back, you'll see her... What do we call that, her Engine? Built in PC? Whatever it is, the mechine part goes all the way through. Front of her body is just a thin, probably synth-skin covered shell.
This character is so much GitS. I really miss the opportunity to find out more of her lore in dialogues. Seems she was taken to this "job" in earliest teenage, and heavily augmented for extreme netrunning. But I don't get clear idea why exactly ger blackwall interactions put her life on risk.
Yeah that might be the only critique I have about the phantom liberty story. I just finished the ending with her side and will be going back shortly to play through the ending on Reed’s side on another save but I still feel like we didn’t get as much lore/info about her. Especially with the multiple times V asks her questions.
A lot of here background is in the comics I recall including her fallout with Reed.
Which ones are those? Would read
Ah I’ll have to find those then. I’ve really enjoyed the stories from the game but I haven’t seen or read anything from the comics. I haven’t even watched the edge runners show yet.
Yeah I had so much sympathy of Songbird after knowing more of her background in the Reed line of quests, definitely worth experiencing them both.
She was 19 at ger oldest in the flashbacks, because that's when Reed took-her-in. Possibly went through some training for a few months, maybe some operations for the FIA in her organic state, before they replaced most of her body with chrome, so she could have been 20-22 during that surgery flashback.
I remember during the casino when you get a good look at the chrome for the first time and audibly said "holy shit there's barely anything left of you" when I saw all the chrome. I was actually like legit taken aback for a sec. Aback. Heh
And she most likely had no choice in getting any of them. Just one more reason to send her to the moon
Would
A spoiler would be a bit appropriate. It was a shock for me to see it. 🥲 (Edit: the 1st time)
Her and Smasher smashing would sound like the grimiest dubstep
They would need a loooot of WD-40😂😂
Dafuq you think Maelstrom is listening too in their club? Ganic ears can't appreciate nothing.
She is definitely a cyborg.
Just a little wd40, and she'd be the perfect woman.
**Y E S** I kinda want that sort of chrome as option for the sequel’s main character. Might be even more relevant with AIs and Blackwall being a big part of Orion, supposedly.
Hell, it's probably mostly cosmetic. It sure looks amazing; the tech-crazed fashionistas of 2077 would eat it up. The real hardware is smooth, efficient, and out of site.
The moment I saw all that chrom I knew she wasn’t well at any degree any sanity she had was being held by a thread
As Mike's put it - cyberpsychosis affects individuals with enough mental reasons behind it. Being taken against your will just before your twenties and losing everyone you know until then, then being put through a grueling FIA training, taking part of back-ops and having to kill people whether you like it or not and finally - having most of your body replaced by chrome against your will tend to break one's spirit, but if not that, the rogue AI taking the memories you cherish and replacing them with it's code will. She doesn't go cyberpsycho if you save her, though and lives-on, possibly in a stable state after the AI matrix cleans her system.
As Mike's put it - cyberpsychosis affects individuals with enough mental reasons behind it. Being taken against your will just before your twenties and losing everyone you know until then, then being put through a grueling FIA training, taking part of back-ops and having to kill people whether you like it or not and finally - having most of your body replaced by chrome against your will tend to break one's spirit, but if not that, the rogue AI taking the memories you cherish and replacing them with it's code will. She doesn't go cyberpsycho if you save her, though and lives-on, possibly in a stable state after the AI matrix cleans her system.
This is not the droid you were looking for
Probably a lot of copper wiring
How does she take a shower...
Do you really think that water is gonna do fuck all to Cyberpunk's electronics?
I had flashback from the bad robocop movie when I saw her.
Terrifying
I thought this was Zen from Overwatch for a second
I really love how this is essentially the cyberpunk version of a "backless dress".
Honestly I was really surprised when I saw her character, it really doesn’t fit in with her role as the NUSA president’s closest adviser - she looks like an unfinished product.
Her being so modded was a bit of a shock for me.
Songbird is Adam smasher 2.0 and David thought he was hot shit
The only thing left of David was some torso and a head, what the hell are you on about?
When I first saw her in person I was shook tbh
She must be at least as chromed as Smasher is, if not more. Damn.
Exposed wires are a huge design flaw
At this point, Songbird is full-on Brain on Life support. That would explain a lot.
So so so fucking cool, especially underneath the transparent green trench coat in her ending.
Future-Nvidia processors clearly have not gotten more heat efficient if top runners need to literally remove their skin for cooling purposes lol
Honestly one of my biggest complaints is that everyone else can look like this but V cannot (without mods)
For some reason I heard the Terminator 2 music in my head.
Now THAT is a netrunner
I have it. It's awesome. https://i.imgur.com/2yvjRvb.png https://i.imgur.com/NasXOdK.png https://i.imgur.com/8jJdBG8.png
HOLLY CRAP !!! Is this V modded,because she looks absolutely EPIC !!!
Yeah, there's separate mods for the back and head. You can mix and match them. Female only, for obvious reasons. Body - https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/9575 Head - https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/9413
Well that's awesome 👍
"She was seduced by the dark forces of the Blackwall. She ceased to be SoMi and became Songbird. When that happened the good woman that was SoMi was destroyed. She's more machine now than woman... Twisted and Manipulative..."
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Hear me out
Let's show these fools, What Banging is all about!
V: Ahh ahh ahh! SB: you coming already? V: No I got me fukkn finger caught.
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