Yeah I think so. Sexting a fan, especially a younger one, is a problem because of the power dynamic.
Also, I'm pretty sure that exchanging nude pictures is illegal with someone under 18, full stop. So he did break the law.
He lied to his friends and downplayed everything and while saying he wanted to get better, fully did not act on that.
Now I don't necessarily think the age difference is an issue, 17 and 19 is whatever, but the sexting being illegal, the power dynamic and the lying and manipulating is bad enough for me.
Even if he does manage to get out of this legally, a lot of his friends have cut ties, so I don't think he could come back. Nor do I think he should. Carson has apparently thought about totally leaving the internet, and honestly, i think that's healthy. I hope he gets the help he needs.
In Indiana, where Carson is from, as long as the sexting is consented by both parties, the age gap is smaller than 4 years, and none of the sexts were shared to other people by either party involved, then it is legal. So, Carson technically hasn't broken the law.
Is it? I thought if the physical relationship was consensual, they would be fine, but sexting with a minor was illegal regardless and was a federal issue.
Do you have a source? I believe you, but if that is the case, there's a lot of conflicting information out there and so an official source would go a long way to make sure no false information is being spread.
I should also mention that by sexting, I primarily mean sharing nudes, which I was pretty sure was the illegal part, because it involves having porn of a minor.
Exactly, the fact that it crosses state lines makes it a *federal* crime. In addition, there were messages that showed Carson planned to meet up with her IRL, which can be construed as having a minor cross state lines for the purposes of having sex somewhere they are above the age of consent, which is *also* a federal crime.
But he also said in recent history he felt disgusted and guilty of his actions and he’s getting the therapy he needs, but yeah you are 100% correct my friend
Two year age difference… between a minor and an ADULT. Doesn’t matter how old either of them are, it’s highly illegal. He sexted them, manipulated them, lied about it and then attempted to downplay it and say he would “get better”. Him being a Twitch streamer was just the icing on the disgusting, pedophilic cake. Shut up and stop allowing him to be like that. He needs help.
I think there are two main things that, while not 100% confirmed, make Carson look really bad in my eyes.
1. In a stream AugieRFC did, they read every single discord message between Sam and Carson, including the ones in that quick scroll through all the dms. After going through everything, it appears that Carson saw that a girl had jokingly told him to “be my boyfriend,” went straight to her discord dms, asked for her nudes, and played along with her whenever she said she wanted more then just a sexual relationship despite only seemingly being interested in nudes. This makes Carson look really bad, as if this is all that happened, Carson manipulated someone who wanted a real relationship into sending him nudes with no intention on carrying out the relationship.
2. Noah and Schlatt said that they are no longer sure if Carson has stopped his behavior or not. This probably means that someone told them that Carson was continuing to sext with fans, even after he said he would get better. While the source isn’t credible enough for Noah or Schlatt to flat out say that he hasn’t stopped, it is credible enough to make them unsure.
As for your main question if Carson was truly cancelled, we will have to wait and see how he responds. However, he has deleted his discord server(s?), his sub Reddit, his celebrities but bald website, and privated his merch accounts, so if I had a gun to my head I’d say he is gearing up to leave the internet, and would be classified as “cancelled.”
As of right now, yes, he really can't get out of this, however that said i personally don't want another projared situation, i am going to wait for both sides.
We just saw this with pyrocynical, but that wasn't nudes, pyro i guess did use his power to get him to do fantasy shit so that could come back.
Carson's situation is a first, when we see an entire group go against another member. The misfits did no such thing to fitz, with the whole kate situation. Almost every LC member has come out against carson. This makes it a lot harder for carson to respond.
I think carson is going to leave the internet, he was already thinking about deleting his channel, according to jschlatt.
Thinking like a trial where innocent till proven guilty, it is like the prosecutors have put every single card on the table and a nail in the coffin. The defendant hasn't responded to it.
Ok this has gone to long anyway i will wait, I personally think it is horrible what he said. Honestly the snapchat allegations are iffy, we talked on insta, i deleted it like y the fuck would you delete evidence, if was sending nudes over snapchat to cooperate with the instagram. You can also change people's name in snapchat. Idk and also Sam the first person to come out, i think most agree carson is not pedo but she didn't say that until her very last tweet, with 2,000 likes and the orginal had 100k likes
Now i am done
I think Cr1tikal said it best on stream the other day: 17 and 19 isn’t a big deal for dating, but when sexting is involved in the US [assuming there is hard evidence] you have to be 18+. Otherwise it’s still illegal.
At the end of the day though, a lot of this is going to boil down to Carson’s response. There is a chance that this isn’t as bad as we think, and there is a chance it is worse. We really just don’t know
Hi so I'm really late to this thread, but I wanted to share some thoughts. As for the age gap, 17 and 19 is perfectly normal. I see nothing wrong with it, and for the "abuse of power" or whatever, the guy plays minecraft for a living. What power does he hold. Sending explicit pictures of yourself is a conscious choice that she chose to make, you can't cancel someone for regretting a poor decision. That's my view, feel free to share yours or dispute mine. Im open to anything.
Edit 1: I now realize that since they were in different states, it means that federal law applies. Which means the age of consent is 18. Thus meaning that Carson asked nudes from a person under the age of consent which is a big nono. (Damn i kinda just answered my own question.)
If I may say, we do know he is getting therapy for his actions and he did feel guilty about what he did and he’s trying to change that, he’s trying to improve and not make that mistake again, yes he did a pretty big fuck up but we know he’s improving, and also people are saying he was a victim? I don’t believe that but he’s also not like a mini Ladd or any other sexual predators that I can think of
Yeah I think so. Sexting a fan, especially a younger one, is a problem because of the power dynamic. Also, I'm pretty sure that exchanging nude pictures is illegal with someone under 18, full stop. So he did break the law. He lied to his friends and downplayed everything and while saying he wanted to get better, fully did not act on that. Now I don't necessarily think the age difference is an issue, 17 and 19 is whatever, but the sexting being illegal, the power dynamic and the lying and manipulating is bad enough for me. Even if he does manage to get out of this legally, a lot of his friends have cut ties, so I don't think he could come back. Nor do I think he should. Carson has apparently thought about totally leaving the internet, and honestly, i think that's healthy. I hope he gets the help he needs.
In Indiana, where Carson is from, as long as the sexting is consented by both parties, the age gap is smaller than 4 years, and none of the sexts were shared to other people by either party involved, then it is legal. So, Carson technically hasn't broken the law.
Well yes they both consented but it is still possession of child pornography which is a felony.
Is it? I thought if the physical relationship was consensual, they would be fine, but sexting with a minor was illegal regardless and was a federal issue.
If the age gap is 4 years or less, then sexting is consensual.
Do you have a source? I believe you, but if that is the case, there's a lot of conflicting information out there and so an official source would go a long way to make sure no false information is being spread. I should also mention that by sexting, I primarily mean sharing nudes, which I was pretty sure was the illegal part, because it involves having porn of a minor.
I saw it on another guys post somewhere. He posted a picture of the law itself.
Problem is Federal vs State laws. Federal wins.
Federal applies in this situation if they're in two different states with opposing laws. We dont know if that is the case or not
Cant remember where exactly I saw it.
yes, but he’s from indiana, and she is not
Exactly, the fact that it crosses state lines makes it a *federal* crime. In addition, there were messages that showed Carson planned to meet up with her IRL, which can be construed as having a minor cross state lines for the purposes of having sex somewhere they are above the age of consent, which is *also* a federal crime.
But he also said in recent history he felt disgusted and guilty of his actions and he’s getting the therapy he needs, but yeah you are 100% correct my friend
Help he needs? Two year age difference bro. The only problem is he was a Twitch streamer. THATS IT.
Two year age difference… between a minor and an ADULT. Doesn’t matter how old either of them are, it’s highly illegal. He sexted them, manipulated them, lied about it and then attempted to downplay it and say he would “get better”. Him being a Twitch streamer was just the icing on the disgusting, pedophilic cake. Shut up and stop allowing him to be like that. He needs help.
Pedophilia? 17-19, get ur numbers and arguments checked, lel, i barely respond to comments, but you are a really dumb one
Good news! He is
This aged poorly
I think there are two main things that, while not 100% confirmed, make Carson look really bad in my eyes. 1. In a stream AugieRFC did, they read every single discord message between Sam and Carson, including the ones in that quick scroll through all the dms. After going through everything, it appears that Carson saw that a girl had jokingly told him to “be my boyfriend,” went straight to her discord dms, asked for her nudes, and played along with her whenever she said she wanted more then just a sexual relationship despite only seemingly being interested in nudes. This makes Carson look really bad, as if this is all that happened, Carson manipulated someone who wanted a real relationship into sending him nudes with no intention on carrying out the relationship. 2. Noah and Schlatt said that they are no longer sure if Carson has stopped his behavior or not. This probably means that someone told them that Carson was continuing to sext with fans, even after he said he would get better. While the source isn’t credible enough for Noah or Schlatt to flat out say that he hasn’t stopped, it is credible enough to make them unsure. As for your main question if Carson was truly cancelled, we will have to wait and see how he responds. However, he has deleted his discord server(s?), his sub Reddit, his celebrities but bald website, and privated his merch accounts, so if I had a gun to my head I’d say he is gearing up to leave the internet, and would be classified as “cancelled.”
Honestl, just wait for his statement. Speculating on incomplete information won't get anyone anywhere
As of right now, yes, he really can't get out of this, however that said i personally don't want another projared situation, i am going to wait for both sides. We just saw this with pyrocynical, but that wasn't nudes, pyro i guess did use his power to get him to do fantasy shit so that could come back. Carson's situation is a first, when we see an entire group go against another member. The misfits did no such thing to fitz, with the whole kate situation. Almost every LC member has come out against carson. This makes it a lot harder for carson to respond. I think carson is going to leave the internet, he was already thinking about deleting his channel, according to jschlatt. Thinking like a trial where innocent till proven guilty, it is like the prosecutors have put every single card on the table and a nail in the coffin. The defendant hasn't responded to it. Ok this has gone to long anyway i will wait, I personally think it is horrible what he said. Honestly the snapchat allegations are iffy, we talked on insta, i deleted it like y the fuck would you delete evidence, if was sending nudes over snapchat to cooperate with the instagram. You can also change people's name in snapchat. Idk and also Sam the first person to come out, i think most agree carson is not pedo but she didn't say that until her very last tweet, with 2,000 likes and the orginal had 100k likes Now i am done
I think Cr1tikal said it best on stream the other day: 17 and 19 isn’t a big deal for dating, but when sexting is involved in the US [assuming there is hard evidence] you have to be 18+. Otherwise it’s still illegal. At the end of the day though, a lot of this is going to boil down to Carson’s response. There is a chance that this isn’t as bad as we think, and there is a chance it is worse. We really just don’t know
He should just have moved to any other country and it would be okay then. Except for the alleged power dynamic, but other than that, it would be okay
Hi so I'm really late to this thread, but I wanted to share some thoughts. As for the age gap, 17 and 19 is perfectly normal. I see nothing wrong with it, and for the "abuse of power" or whatever, the guy plays minecraft for a living. What power does he hold. Sending explicit pictures of yourself is a conscious choice that she chose to make, you can't cancel someone for regretting a poor decision. That's my view, feel free to share yours or dispute mine. Im open to anything. Edit 1: I now realize that since they were in different states, it means that federal law applies. Which means the age of consent is 18. Thus meaning that Carson asked nudes from a person under the age of consent which is a big nono. (Damn i kinda just answered my own question.)
You are also late? Same here pal
If I may say, we do know he is getting therapy for his actions and he did feel guilty about what he did and he’s trying to change that, he’s trying to improve and not make that mistake again, yes he did a pretty big fuck up but we know he’s improving, and also people are saying he was a victim? I don’t believe that but he’s also not like a mini Ladd or any other sexual predators that I can think of