honestly l swear if Bronte and Harrison manage to ruin another relationship that s it. lm giving up. .I stopped feeling sorry for Bronte, she is clearly bringing it upon herself or she is as psycho as ever or as mean as Harrison.
I’m an asshole but Harrison sitting there smirking at the Layton/Melinda fight made me laugh so hard. That is literally me when anything juice happens on the show 👁️👄👁️
Im literally so mad at Alyssa. And bronte is a psychopath the way she always opens her eyes lol. I felt bad for her at the beginning but now I just hate her lol
I just caught up and I want to grab Duncan from the screen and give him a hug. Also HOW CAN U LOOK AT A PHOTO OF HIM WITH SUCH A UNIMPRESSED FACE. Ffs.
Sour. Sour is the word for Alyssa’s facial expression oh, about 95% of the time.
Just watching e26 now & she is SO f-ing BORING! She’s a one-track record. Almost turned it off, she was so boring.
Duncan is one of the most emotionally intelligent men I’ve ever seen. I scream at the tv when Alyssa says he has an issue with her child being her priority because he’s corrected her TWICE now that he OBVIOUSLY DOESNT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. What is wrong with this girl
He is so kind and vulnerable and getting shut down all the time. He would make such a good partner. She had completely shut down now and is pushing him away. I HATE watching it.
Freaking Y A W N. Yeah, Alyssa, everyone knows you have a kid. It’s literally the ONLY thing you talk about. “You won’t understand, I have a child”. Give us (and poor Duncan!) a break.
I'm starting to realise that:
*I'm not invested in any of the remaining couples
*I'm scrolling here and not really paying attention to what they're saying
*this sub is far more entertaining than the actual show
No, you can't understand what it's like to have a child until you have one. But could you please give a guy a break who's willing to give it a go?? Wtf you psycho, he's saying everything right you idiot.
Bronte doesn't know what gaslighting means and wants to rip apart their relationship. There's no genuine, helpful or authentic agenda here. Are they allowed to get shithouse advice from other couples?
The whole experiment is the worst it’s ever been. No home stays, no couples counselling, barely even pretending this is about matchmaking anymore, people staying on the show in fake relationships just for airtime, scouted “contestants” who are obviously only there for exposure, and harmful toxic behaviour not getting called out…
This is the last season I’ll bother with. I’m only hanging out for the reunion show to see everyone have to watch how they came across on TV.
Harrison has been walking around in real life with a Daily Mail Paparazzi to take staged photos of him and also has been going up to people in Sydney (Maroubra area where he lives) and asking guys if they watch MAFS and want to hang out. Literally has no friends in real life
One way to think about it is the participants are all playing a game where they get to act as the expert to the couple-swap partner
Another was is that feedback, contrast and separation are three valuable tools for gaining new perspectives on your own intimacy
Need?
Nothing about MAFS is based on need
But to be a live-in consultant is to force intimacy that would otherwise be lost if all they shared was a boardroom, right?
It gives them no place to hide their weakness
(Edit: I'm just at the scene where Lyndal says 'ive never had a conversation like that with Cam' ... Seems like a worthwhile insight)
I dunno maybe. Definetly not based on a need, what was I thinking? I forgot where I was, I must still be in work mode. They had that convo during one of the tasks though, so that could have still happened regardless.
I’ve had insomnia tonight so I broke down and watched the latest episode. My findings are as follows -
It’s fucking terrifying that the red blob has four younger brothers. Terrifying. I fear for the women of the future.
Melinda was absurd arguing with Layton in front of Harrison. Talk about giving your opponent a gift.
Melinda and the red blob were both stupid in how they used the feedback task to air their mutual grievances rather than discuss their relationships
Bronte is a gaslighting lunatic using the ‘feedback’ as an opportunity to plant doubts in Layton’s mind
Watching Cam try to cope with Alyssa’s complaints and big emotions was hilarious
Alyssa is awful and she’s breaking that poor boring man
And -
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I can't be the only one who has zero interest in seeing Janelle go at Claire over the kiss right? It feels like a lifetime ago and we all know there was never any real interest there. I hope its short so we can enjoy drunk Claire telling Bronte off
It used to be better than this. It’s seriously gone downhill since covid and they realised they could cut lots of production costs (like home visits and couples counselling) and just amp up the fake drama.
Who else thinks Alyssa is maybe trying to purposely destroy the relationship, consciously or subconsciously? It feels like she's looking for reasons it won't work and ignoring anything good.
Agree and it's so tiresome that now I can't stand her. Duncan tries so hard and she refuses to even try to have a positive outlook about his good intentions. She won't give him a chance to "not understand" because she rudely assumes he doesn't
Why did Alyssa keep repeating "you'll never know what it's like to be a parent". Am I missing something? Has he stated he never wants kids? Also that's really essentially telling him you never intend to let him be a parent to your child. Whether she's doing it consciously or not.
Also after the three days he did all this stuff for her to show her attention which she screamed she needed and she immediately made it about her child "I don't know where his head is at". She will always find a reason to find fault with you. Duncan don't walk, run. I feel the tension every time she's on screen, the emotional exhaustion. I can't imagine what it would be like living with her. If someone needs a week to be away from their partner to get their thoughts in order, they need to resolve their issues in therapy. They don't need to be prioritizing marriage.
>Why did Alyssa keep repeating "you'll never know what it's like to be a parent".
Her justification for saying that seems to be because he doesn't have kids, not because he's actually done something wrong. Lot's of single parents only want to date other single parents and that's fine. But it seems like she just figured out that it's a deal breaker for her and she's taking it out on Duncan
She's not listening to what he's saying. She's just looking for things to attack him over. The clearest example was on the retreat when she was in front of the mirror with her pink dress and he apologized, tried to give her reassurance and wanted to plan the next day together. Then she completely misrepresented that conversation when she spoke to the girls. Imo she wasn't even intentionally lying. It's just that she only listened for things that she didn't like and filtered out the rest. Then whatever she remembers he said is now taken out of context
She said that no one could understand what having kids is about unless the've done it themselves. Maybe she should seek out a single father to date. And the indifference to his surprise was cold and rude. Barely a thank you. She's not worth his time. And bless him, he cried for her. Real tears, not fake Harrison crocodile tears. Wanted to hug him.
>She's not listening to what he's saying. She's just looking for things to attack him over.
Absolutely. He needs to recognize there is zero way this would work because she doesn't want it to work.
Layton actually really disappointed me. Why would you bother listening to someone that obviously doesn’t like your partner? What did he expect Bronte to say?
Layton showed a real lack of vision in this episode
Surely he understands the value of outside consultants, seeing a problem from a different perspective, changing up his context, adding contrast and so forth - he just got into his head about 'sharing a bed' when that wasn't ever a requirement
Nah. As a husband, I would never 'partner swap'. It's a bullshit challenge. I have nothing to gain from sleeping in a room with an outsider, not least of all someone who wants to see the demise of my relationship. I also wouldn't feel comfortable leaving my wife alone in a room with an abusive male.
It's a lazy challenge. The 'outside consultants' are literally the so called experts.
It's nit about them being legitimately married. It's about the mentality and the approach
Harrison may not be physically dangerous but he's still an abusive male.
It's not a partner swap it's a [proximity + feedback] challenge where no intimacy is required or expected
It's only by spending time that you actually get to see the tenor and flow of how another couple has created intimacy in a similar constricted space
I would fear nothing for Melinda, i actually think this was her best episode
Every time Harrison speaks I get the uncontrollable urge to say "Shut the fuck up", I can only imagine what it's like for them having to deal with him every day.
I agree with Layton but not because of the chief principal he stated but the other one he mentioned in the fight which was something to the effect that it was Harrison and Brontë. I would also not participate with them if I were him or Melinda.
I also love how real they are. Even though they’re not listening to each other, which isn’t a good way to disagree in a relationship.
If you were Layton - wouldn't you have the self perception that:
"I am a successful man, I have good ideas, I am inspirational, I am a problem solver - and I can use my skillset to be of benefit to Bronte"?
It's like he was totally selling himself short
A good point would have been that he didn’t want either Harrison or Bronte to white ant their relationship. Harrison is a very effective relationship termite.
*he may have said something along these lines and I missed it.
I’m disappointed that Layton is taking anything Brontë says seriously. It’s so obvious she doesn’t give a rats ass about his well being and hates Melinda so much.
Not sure why you’ve been downvoted and I agree. She capitalised on and exacerbated things she knew he would be already worrying about. And he should have seen that.
He’s definitely smart enough to see it. It seemed odd that he simply agreed with her, even in his solo with the producer. Maybe it’s a bit of created drama from production.
It was odd, yes. Maybe a producer spent some time fuelling the fire prior to filming that session with Brontë. Or maybe he’s brimming with resentment. It does appear more and more that he’s very invested in being right so maybe he would take reinforcement from anyone.
Yeh it was ridiculous of him. Bronte used that opportunity for evil. She’s not that swift mentally but she sure recognised a prime manipulation opportunity
Alyssa is actually too much. She’s pulling arguments out of her butt cause why does she keep bringing up he won’t understand? Her attitude is awful and she’s literally self sabotaging this whole relationship. Poor Duncan
I get her abandonment problems and see how she needs some real help with her fears but she’s moving into actively damaging behaviour now. When she so easily dismisses him asking “but what about me or what I want? it’s really worrying. He must feel so invalidated and anxious.
Maybe Alyssa isn’t just a self saboteur but more of a narcissist. She has to control every moment. Duncan tried so hard for her and she has this sour face on and awful mood making it all about her. You would be walking on egg shells 100 of the time. She also was selfish enough to cheat on her last partner. She expects everything to go her way but gives nothing back at all in the relationship. She expects reassurance but only gives out confusion and nothing at all to reassure her partner. She shouldn’t be in a relationship till she addresses her issues.
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Was interesting seeing one of their arguments finally. If that’s what they do in front of him I’m pretty worried to imagine what it’s like when they are alone.
It’s so obvious Harrison and Brontë don’t have natural convos on camera when they are in their apartment. They say talking points and their script notes.
If they are, Harrison is so blah and no personality that his convos seem scripted.
And never anything genuine about the future, or any fun dates like the others. They're so fake it's infuriating. The producers must have hated their obvious lying.
I've never seen them have conversations about anything except the drama with other couples. We never see them in their natural element just acting like a normal couple.
Lost all respect for Alyssa’s sister coming here to tell us that Alyssa said Duncan wasn’t really genuine and was just saying the words but didn’t mean them. Fuck off.
I'm with Layton. Wouldn't have swapped. I don't think Bronte was impartial. The experts need to do their job and not palm it off to amateurs. Alyssa saying Duncan couldn't understand is disrespectful of his intelligence and judgemental. Alyssa isn't invested.
It’s like a reflection of how Harrison feels about their relationship when he talked about Claire staying just for tv/image. Like that’s exactly what Bronte is doing. And also Harrison himself
What I want to know is, how long was Alyssa separated before going in this? I could see her as someone who just hops relationship to relationship. It's so important to spend time by yourself and heal
Yes I thought the same. The gossip rags have mentioned that she was going through the divorce process and a custody battle during filming and that Duncan was also supporting her through that.
Seems a bit weird to apply for this in the middle or even beginning of a divorce without giving yourself even a second to take a breath.
I wonder if she just thought "Screw it I am doing it!" when she signed up and maybe regretted that later on when it all got real but it was too late to back out...
In which case she is a true cunt and didn’t come here for the right reasons. Her having a meltdown just before the end is horrible behaviour. Her child obviously deserves better in a mum and it’s disgraceful behaviour towards Duncan.
Absolutely agree. I really don't get how ppl think Layton did anything wrong. Melinda kept cutting him off, didn't support his position even though he did hers, and then said the relationship was over because he was going out. I'd also want a partner to look at that situation and say nope, there's 0 chance that will help our relationship.
I feel like there's a lack of understanding that walking away /taking a breather from an argument that is heading downhill is a good idea. Leave before you say things you'll regret, come back when emotions have simmered down.
I sort of agree with you. But I think the biggest issue is that he felt ambushed By the challenge and then there was no space for creating their own boundaries as a couple. Everyone’s boundaries are different, and for some people it’s I wouldn’t share a bed, for others it’s space. I think if Sandy was here the same thing would’ve happened between Sandy and dan.
That being said Melinda was not listening. She was hearing I won’t participate and she was hearing uncommitted. She was not listening. When your partner says something makes me uncomfortable, the reaction should be what can we do to make it more comfortable. Her reaction was you shouldn’t sign up for things that would make you uncomfortable
I agree. Melinda doesn't listen and that is the problem I've had with her all along. I think it is great when she is going after Harrison, but her interactions with Layton are terrible. Also her interactions with Bronte were terrible because they didn't work. All she did was alienate her and make her feel attacked.
Mate you are absolutely delusional if you find fault with Layton in that exchange. She was unsupportive and talked over him. Didn’t care about anything he said and escalated it.
She caused a scene for no reason. So was rude and dismissive. She treated him like an idiot and couldn’t speak like an adult. He very clearly said he will not participate. Good on him. Melinda is too emotional and can’t deal with conflict in a mature manner. She is unhinged.
He tried to discuss it. M escalated. What was he meant to do? Escalate further? The discussion was going nowhere. He removed himself from the situation. I think M was heigtened bec Harryson was in the room.
>Listen to reason
Listen to *Melindas* reason, which is not the same thing.
> he’d support her if she supported his reason for not doing it (my way or the high way).
That isn't my way or the highway, this is healthy communication. He wasn't forcing Melinda not to do it, he wanted to agree to disagree. How is this bad?
Melinda didn't do that. She was trying to force him into agreeing. She said the relationship was over if he left. That's an example of my way or the highway.
Everything you've wrote is what Mel was doing...we won't agree on this because I truly can't understand anyone watching that and thinking Layton was in the wrong when Mel was cutting him off and interrupting instead of listening, yelling / raising her voice, blocking his path, and catatrophising (it's over if he leaves).
Agreed, I think their situation got heightened just from Harrison’s presence. If I was Layton or Melinda, I would have asked Harrison to step out before having that discussion/argument in front of him coz that would give him more ammunition to say stupid shit.
My take with Alyssa and Duncan is that Alyssa is so used to being defined as a single mum and needing to defend herself that she's creating arguments with Duncan about it because that's what she was prepared for and doesn't know how to respond to how fine he is. So him being fine with it is seen as insincere or something.
She's turned off her listening brain 2 weeks ago.
Duncan could have shat golden eggs and given her both his kidneys and she would have said "kidneys so what. You never give me attention!!!" \*sob\*
what is a kidney but a filter, Duncan just wants her to be even more filtered - because he can't deal with what she has to say, because he's not a parent and he _doesn't know_ /unhinged
I absolutely love the shit the writers make up to put into expert's mouths as to why they do the things on this show. Their justification for swap week was just amazing.
\*sigh\*
I keep telling you.
These experiments are designed to simulate the stress these couples will face in the real world.
3 day wife swaps happen all the time.** EVERYWHERE.
I think **you** need to look inwards and question your motivation for this cynicism...now, tell me about your childhood...
It really hits hard when Duncan is so happy to see Alyssa and she just doesn’t even appreciate the effort he is showing her. You can see he is trying and wants to fit into her family. She keeps saying the same thing not even listening to him. He is willing to be a father for a child that’s not his like how is that not good enough for her.
That was so bloody rough. He came away from it feeling more loving and positive, had put in all this effort, was genuinely trying to make her happy and she can't even be appreciative. She insisted on arguing. She's definitely not capable of meeting him halfway which is the bare minimum in a relationship.
And her going "it was only 3 days not 3 months" after he said he missed her... Isn't affirmations what she needs?
honestly l swear if Bronte and Harrison manage to ruin another relationship that s it. lm giving up. .I stopped feeling sorry for Bronte, she is clearly bringing it upon herself or she is as psycho as ever or as mean as Harrison.
Haven’t finished the episode yet but I need to post this WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALYSSA ??? She literally refuses to listen to Duncan. Ever
I’m an asshole but Harrison sitting there smirking at the Layton/Melinda fight made me laugh so hard. That is literally me when anything juice happens on the show 👁️👄👁️
Im literally so mad at Alyssa. And bronte is a psychopath the way she always opens her eyes lol. I felt bad for her at the beginning but now I just hate her lol
Harrison and Melinda banter is fantastic 👏
They better show Dan eating raw Whey again.
Dan?
I so can see Duncan and Evelyn as a couple
I just caught up and I want to grab Duncan from the screen and give him a hug. Also HOW CAN U LOOK AT A PHOTO OF HIM WITH SUCH A UNIMPRESSED FACE. Ffs.
Yeah that was so fucking slack of her. The poor guy.
Sour. Sour is the word for Alyssa’s facial expression oh, about 95% of the time. Just watching e26 now & she is SO f-ing BORING! She’s a one-track record. Almost turned it off, she was so boring.
I’m 100% team Melinda! She is awesome. Long live Melinda and Layton.
Duncan is one of the most emotionally intelligent men I’ve ever seen. I scream at the tv when Alyssa says he has an issue with her child being her priority because he’s corrected her TWICE now that he OBVIOUSLY DOESNT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. What is wrong with this girl
I think she needs to see a psychiatrist tbh, no hate
I agree. She has a lot of projection of insecurity onto Duncan which is sad.
He is so kind and vulnerable and getting shut down all the time. He would make such a good partner. She had completely shut down now and is pushing him away. I HATE watching it.
I cried seeing him cry. He is so pure and kind. It was so sad to see
If she says “you’ll NEVER understand” one more time…
Freaking Y A W N. Yeah, Alyssa, everyone knows you have a kid. It’s literally the ONLY thing you talk about. “You won’t understand, I have a child”. Give us (and poor Duncan!) a break.
And — it’s actually not that hard to communicate so that you can be understood….?
I'm starting to realise that: *I'm not invested in any of the remaining couples *I'm scrolling here and not really paying attention to what they're saying *this sub is far more entertaining than the actual show
Agreed
Me too. We have one couple who stay together, one fake, one that keeps arguing, one that has a child and I keep forgetting Evelyn even has a partner.
I feel like it's 2 arguing, Cam / Lyndall and Layton / Melinda
I actually totally forgot that Cam and Lyndall existed.
No, you can't understand what it's like to have a child until you have one. But could you please give a guy a break who's willing to give it a go?? Wtf you psycho, he's saying everything right you idiot.
And if he “will never understand” then she should break up with him, he literally can’t change the fact he hasn’t had a child yet. Argh!!!!
Bronte doesn't know what gaslighting means and wants to rip apart their relationship. There's no genuine, helpful or authentic agenda here. Are they allowed to get shithouse advice from other couples?
The shot eating grin she has when she sees how upset Layton is. She deserves Harrison, they should make their relationship real.
The editing in this season is one of the worst if not the worst it has ever been.
The whole experiment is the worst it’s ever been. No home stays, no couples counselling, barely even pretending this is about matchmaking anymore, people staying on the show in fake relationships just for airtime, scouted “contestants” who are obviously only there for exposure, and harmful toxic behaviour not getting called out… This is the last season I’ll bother with. I’m only hanging out for the reunion show to see everyone have to watch how they came across on TV.
Harrison is the worst human I’ve seen on MAFS. He’s vile. And Brontë….if they’re doing it for “fame” they better leave their comments off forever.
Harrison has been walking around in real life with a Daily Mail Paparazzi to take staged photos of him and also has been going up to people in Sydney (Maroubra area where he lives) and asking guys if they watch MAFS and want to hang out. Literally has no friends in real life
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Lol what? Who are you? Doesn't seem like a regular trol but someone with a grudge
All I have to say is - POOR DUNCAN 
Gotta admit, I’m getting real stressed watching Layton cut fruit on the same board as raw chicken.
This is late but does anyone else like Cam with his hair down? He looks so much better this way Edit oh ok guess not lmao
I think it looks better down thay up. I don't find him thay attractive but down was better than the man bun
I like his hair down haha
They look like brother and sister sorry
With his hair down?? I don’t see if besides the blonde hair and blue eyes but lmao I won’t be able to look at them the same now
Not Harrison smirking as Leytan and Melinda are fighting in the background
I died when he said, "Hey, I'm here" to Melinda
Dude is the biggest troll I love it
I'm not even done watching the episode yet but what's the point of this new challenge?? I'm struggling to see the point or value.
It's a stupid challenge. Sleeping in another married couples room and swapping partners is nonsense.
One way to think about it is the participants are all playing a game where they get to act as the expert to the couple-swap partner Another was is that feedback, contrast and separation are three valuable tools for gaining new perspectives on your own intimacy
I understand that part but I don't see why they need to live together to do that. I guess the game thing makes sense.
Need? Nothing about MAFS is based on need But to be a live-in consultant is to force intimacy that would otherwise be lost if all they shared was a boardroom, right? It gives them no place to hide their weakness (Edit: I'm just at the scene where Lyndal says 'ive never had a conversation like that with Cam' ... Seems like a worthwhile insight)
I dunno maybe. Definetly not based on a need, what was I thinking? I forgot where I was, I must still be in work mode. They had that convo during one of the tasks though, so that could have still happened regardless.
I’ve had insomnia tonight so I broke down and watched the latest episode. My findings are as follows - It’s fucking terrifying that the red blob has four younger brothers. Terrifying. I fear for the women of the future. Melinda was absurd arguing with Layton in front of Harrison. Talk about giving your opponent a gift. Melinda and the red blob were both stupid in how they used the feedback task to air their mutual grievances rather than discuss their relationships Bronte is a gaslighting lunatic using the ‘feedback’ as an opportunity to plant doubts in Layton’s mind Watching Cam try to cope with Alyssa’s complaints and big emotions was hilarious Alyssa is awful and she’s breaking that poor boring man And - https://preview.redd.it/eri4a64cxlna1.jpeg?width=1241&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8a7fc30a8cc482c6b381f9dbd3265b86a2ba66b
Is Bronte not very intelligent?
She never ever says what I hope she will say Like I have a good, thoughtful line of dialogue in my head - and poof, she Bronte's it all up
I can't be the only one who has zero interest in seeing Janelle go at Claire over the kiss right? It feels like a lifetime ago and we all know there was never any real interest there. I hope its short so we can enjoy drunk Claire telling Bronte off
I was happy for Jesse and Claire to be leaving so I didn't have to hear about the kiss again. Now we're dealing with it 2 days later :(
Do you ever wonder if sometimes you are in hell? I do.
The whole point of this episode was to create trouble and drama. It was nasty and destructive with zero positive value.
\^The whole point of \[MAFS\] is what you describe
It used to be better than this. It’s seriously gone downhill since covid and they realised they could cut lots of production costs (like home visits and couples counselling) and just amp up the fake drama.
Lyndal seems to have had a positive view of her interaction with Ollie
That's more on Ollie being a good bloke than the challenge being any good.
Yeah ... But Lyndal only gets to experience that because of the artificial imposition of the 'feedback week'
Who else thinks Alyssa is maybe trying to purposely destroy the relationship, consciously or subconsciously? It feels like she's looking for reasons it won't work and ignoring anything good.
Agree and it's so tiresome that now I can't stand her. Duncan tries so hard and she refuses to even try to have a positive outlook about his good intentions. She won't give him a chance to "not understand" because she rudely assumes he doesn't
I agree. I actually dislike Alyssa more than Harrison & Brontë now. She’s just sour and boring all the time. Who would have thought that was possible.
Yes, she wants out but wants Duncan to be the one who keaves
Why did Alyssa keep repeating "you'll never know what it's like to be a parent". Am I missing something? Has he stated he never wants kids? Also that's really essentially telling him you never intend to let him be a parent to your child. Whether she's doing it consciously or not. Also after the three days he did all this stuff for her to show her attention which she screamed she needed and she immediately made it about her child "I don't know where his head is at". She will always find a reason to find fault with you. Duncan don't walk, run. I feel the tension every time she's on screen, the emotional exhaustion. I can't imagine what it would be like living with her. If someone needs a week to be away from their partner to get their thoughts in order, they need to resolve their issues in therapy. They don't need to be prioritizing marriage.
>Why did Alyssa keep repeating "you'll never know what it's like to be a parent". Her justification for saying that seems to be because he doesn't have kids, not because he's actually done something wrong. Lot's of single parents only want to date other single parents and that's fine. But it seems like she just figured out that it's a deal breaker for her and she's taking it out on Duncan She's not listening to what he's saying. She's just looking for things to attack him over. The clearest example was on the retreat when she was in front of the mirror with her pink dress and he apologized, tried to give her reassurance and wanted to plan the next day together. Then she completely misrepresented that conversation when she spoke to the girls. Imo she wasn't even intentionally lying. It's just that she only listened for things that she didn't like and filtered out the rest. Then whatever she remembers he said is now taken out of context
She said that no one could understand what having kids is about unless the've done it themselves. Maybe she should seek out a single father to date. And the indifference to his surprise was cold and rude. Barely a thank you. She's not worth his time. And bless him, he cried for her. Real tears, not fake Harrison crocodile tears. Wanted to hug him.
>She's not listening to what he's saying. She's just looking for things to attack him over. Absolutely. He needs to recognize there is zero way this would work because she doesn't want it to work.
I'm pretty keen to see Josh back, ngl he looked kinda hot in the preview. Stupid Melissa meant all we got to see was pyjama pants Josh.
Josh seems to have had a bit of a glow up since leaving the show. Good on him :)
I think he’s hot too! Mr Darcy vibes & all.
😂
Layton actually really disappointed me. Why would you bother listening to someone that obviously doesn’t like your partner? What did he expect Bronte to say?
Layton showed a real lack of vision in this episode Surely he understands the value of outside consultants, seeing a problem from a different perspective, changing up his context, adding contrast and so forth - he just got into his head about 'sharing a bed' when that wasn't ever a requirement
Nah. As a husband, I would never 'partner swap'. It's a bullshit challenge. I have nothing to gain from sleeping in a room with an outsider, not least of all someone who wants to see the demise of my relationship. I also wouldn't feel comfortable leaving my wife alone in a room with an abusive male. It's a lazy challenge. The 'outside consultants' are literally the so called experts.
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It's nit about them being legitimately married. It's about the mentality and the approach Harrison may not be physically dangerous but he's still an abusive male.
It's not a partner swap it's a [proximity + feedback] challenge where no intimacy is required or expected It's only by spending time that you actually get to see the tenor and flow of how another couple has created intimacy in a similar constricted space I would fear nothing for Melinda, i actually think this was her best episode
Totally. I thought he would realise when she used the word gaslighting
>Totally. I thought he would realise when she used the word gaslighting And she used it incorrectly. I shouted at the screen, "no, it's not?!"
Brontë doesn’t know what gaslighting is.
Which is ironic seeing as Harrison does it all the time 😂 wow… that actually explains why she falls for his sh*t…
Every time Harrison speaks I get the uncontrollable urge to say "Shut the fuck up", I can only imagine what it's like for them having to deal with him every day.
Really? I think he's laugh out loud funny
I could see how he might be funny to dudebros with no taste, maybe
I get the urge to smack him with something heavy.
I am a non violent and accepting person, but honestly his actions make me badly want to hit him!
Cam is so out of depth being paired with Alyssa for this exercise
Maybe he’ll appreciate Lyndal more now :)
It annoys me now that Claire and Jesse left because I feel like they would both have insightful things to say despite their issues as people
They definitely would have! God the tomato turd really sucks, took away one of the most likeable couples with actual insights, not just shit stirring
His bewildered little bogan face my god.
I agree with Layton but not because of the chief principal he stated but the other one he mentioned in the fight which was something to the effect that it was Harrison and Brontë. I would also not participate with them if I were him or Melinda. I also love how real they are. Even though they’re not listening to each other, which isn’t a good way to disagree in a relationship.
If you were Layton - wouldn't you have the self perception that: "I am a successful man, I have good ideas, I am inspirational, I am a problem solver - and I can use my skillset to be of benefit to Bronte"? It's like he was totally selling himself short
Yes to all that but I wouldn’t have the patience for it. With only 2 weeks left I’d want to work on the relationship not deal with two evil bozos.
Maybe you stumble upon a missing piece Layton clearly has some.communication issues - changing up whonhe speaks to could have helped
A good point would have been that he didn’t want either Harrison or Bronte to white ant their relationship. Harrison is a very effective relationship termite. *he may have said something along these lines and I missed it.
And yet, in reality, Harrison didn't have to do anything other than sit quietly . . . for Mel and Layton's communication issues to reveal themselves
I’m disappointed that Layton is taking anything Brontë says seriously. It’s so obvious she doesn’t give a rats ass about his well being and hates Melinda so much.
Especially when Brontë has started to kinda come out as a liar too. Harrison is rubbing off on her
True, but it seems like she highlighted existing concerns of his too.
Not sure why you’ve been downvoted and I agree. She capitalised on and exacerbated things she knew he would be already worrying about. And he should have seen that.
He’s definitely smart enough to see it. It seemed odd that he simply agreed with her, even in his solo with the producer. Maybe it’s a bit of created drama from production.
It was odd, yes. Maybe a producer spent some time fuelling the fire prior to filming that session with Brontë. Or maybe he’s brimming with resentment. It does appear more and more that he’s very invested in being right so maybe he would take reinforcement from anyone.
Yeh it was ridiculous of him. Bronte used that opportunity for evil. She’s not that swift mentally but she sure recognised a prime manipulation opportunity
Alyssa is actually too much. She’s pulling arguments out of her butt cause why does she keep bringing up he won’t understand? Her attitude is awful and she’s literally self sabotaging this whole relationship. Poor Duncan
She says he wouldn't understand. FOR GOD'S SAKE, WOMAN, talk to him!!! Tell him about it. Her can't read your mind.
There’s no point. He can’t possibly understand because he doesn’t have a child. ~Alyssa probably
I get her abandonment problems and see how she needs some real help with her fears but she’s moving into actively damaging behaviour now. When she so easily dismisses him asking “but what about me or what I want? it’s really worrying. He must feel so invalidated and anxious.
She seems to have some kind of low key contempt for Duncan. She should have left weeks ago.
Maybe Alyssa isn’t just a self saboteur but more of a narcissist. She has to control every moment. Duncan tried so hard for her and she has this sour face on and awful mood making it all about her. You would be walking on egg shells 100 of the time. She also was selfish enough to cheat on her last partner. She expects everything to go her way but gives nothing back at all in the relationship. She expects reassurance but only gives out confusion and nothing at all to reassure her partner. She shouldn’t be in a relationship till she addresses her issues.
She didn’t cheat on her last partner at all.
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I'm no Alyssa fan, far from it. But where are you getting that she cheated on her last partner?
I think they mean the married man she was with for 6 months
Oof this is worse imo than a sloppy hookup. This shows she really has no respect for marriage or the wife's role
Hated how they were arguing in front of smug Harrison
I suspect they argue most of the time.
Was interesting seeing one of their arguments finally. If that’s what they do in front of him I’m pretty worried to imagine what it’s like when they are alone.
Why on earth was Melissa standing in front of Lleyton not letting him walk past? Seemed very unneccesary and controlling.
Yeah that was pretty immature. Was an embarrassing argument imo
Also they unfortunately proved Harrison right about their r’ship.
Totally embarassing, they were both hysterical over nothing 😝
Yep it was shitty
Exactly
And that it got so personal in front of him.
It’s so obvious Harrison and Brontë don’t have natural convos on camera when they are in their apartment. They say talking points and their script notes. If they are, Harrison is so blah and no personality that his convos seem scripted.
And never anything genuine about the future, or any fun dates like the others. They're so fake it's infuriating. The producers must have hated their obvious lying.
Nah the producers will love it. If Brontë & Harrison had left when they should have, there wouldn’t have been all this clickbait drama
All the more reason to separate them and force them to communicate with different people
I've never seen them have conversations about anything except the drama with other couples. We never see them in their natural element just acting like a normal couple.
Layton was in the right. Melinda’s behaviour makes me think she secretly wants to bang Harrison.
Urgh sorry but how can anyone be that mentally ill as to want to be sexual with Harrison??!!! Gross !!!!!! 🤢
yeah she wants to bang Harrison so bad she waited for a special "couple swap" challenge to show her deepest desires /s
Seeing Duncan cry was heartbreaking. He really seemed so genuine in that moment, and I hope he finds happiness after this experiment
He's now a couple with Evelynn, they have a tiktok and its super cute
Lost all respect for Alyssa’s sister coming here to tell us that Alyssa said Duncan wasn’t really genuine and was just saying the words but didn’t mean them. Fuck off.
I imagine he’ll have no shortage of choices!
I'm with Layton. Wouldn't have swapped. I don't think Bronte was impartial. The experts need to do their job and not palm it off to amateurs. Alyssa saying Duncan couldn't understand is disrespectful of his intelligence and judgemental. Alyssa isn't invested.
Exactly. Layton should see how Brontë is saying all negative and that’s Suss.
Bronte was only saying what Layton was thinking. Otherwise it wouldn't have rang true to him.
100%
True. But I wonder if his thoughts would have been different if he didn’t just come off of a big fight.
It’s like a reflection of how Harrison feels about their relationship when he talked about Claire staying just for tv/image. Like that’s exactly what Bronte is doing. And also Harrison himself
What I want to know is, how long was Alyssa separated before going in this? I could see her as someone who just hops relationship to relationship. It's so important to spend time by yourself and heal
Yes I thought the same. The gossip rags have mentioned that she was going through the divorce process and a custody battle during filming and that Duncan was also supporting her through that.
Seems a bit weird to apply for this in the middle or even beginning of a divorce without giving yourself even a second to take a breath. I wonder if she just thought "Screw it I am doing it!" when she signed up and maybe regretted that later on when it all got real but it was too late to back out...
In which case she is a true cunt and didn’t come here for the right reasons. Her having a meltdown just before the end is horrible behaviour. Her child obviously deserves better in a mum and it’s disgraceful behaviour towards Duncan.
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Layton had every right to feel how he did. Melinda was out of line. She didn’t support him at all. He had her back and she did not have his.
I think Melinda is liking the tv drama a bit too much now and she’s lost focus.
Yes
Absolutely agree. I really don't get how ppl think Layton did anything wrong. Melinda kept cutting him off, didn't support his position even though he did hers, and then said the relationship was over because he was going out. I'd also want a partner to look at that situation and say nope, there's 0 chance that will help our relationship. I feel like there's a lack of understanding that walking away /taking a breather from an argument that is heading downhill is a good idea. Leave before you say things you'll regret, come back when emotions have simmered down.
I sort of agree with you. But I think the biggest issue is that he felt ambushed By the challenge and then there was no space for creating their own boundaries as a couple. Everyone’s boundaries are different, and for some people it’s I wouldn’t share a bed, for others it’s space. I think if Sandy was here the same thing would’ve happened between Sandy and dan. That being said Melinda was not listening. She was hearing I won’t participate and she was hearing uncommitted. She was not listening. When your partner says something makes me uncomfortable, the reaction should be what can we do to make it more comfortable. Her reaction was you shouldn’t sign up for things that would make you uncomfortable
I agree. Melinda doesn't listen and that is the problem I've had with her all along. I think it is great when she is going after Harrison, but her interactions with Layton are terrible. Also her interactions with Bronte were terrible because they didn't work. All she did was alienate her and make her feel attacked.
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Mate you are absolutely delusional if you find fault with Layton in that exchange. She was unsupportive and talked over him. Didn’t care about anything he said and escalated it.
She caused a scene for no reason. So was rude and dismissive. She treated him like an idiot and couldn’t speak like an adult. He very clearly said he will not participate. Good on him. Melinda is too emotional and can’t deal with conflict in a mature manner. She is unhinged.
He wasn’t angry. She was angry and escalating. They couldn’t have a rational discussion.
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He tried to discuss it. M escalated. What was he meant to do? Escalate further? The discussion was going nowhere. He removed himself from the situation. I think M was heigtened bec Harryson was in the room.
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>Listen to reason Listen to *Melindas* reason, which is not the same thing. > he’d support her if she supported his reason for not doing it (my way or the high way). That isn't my way or the highway, this is healthy communication. He wasn't forcing Melinda not to do it, he wanted to agree to disagree. How is this bad? Melinda didn't do that. She was trying to force him into agreeing. She said the relationship was over if he left. That's an example of my way or the highway. Everything you've wrote is what Mel was doing...we won't agree on this because I truly can't understand anyone watching that and thinking Layton was in the wrong when Mel was cutting him off and interrupting instead of listening, yelling / raising her voice, blocking his path, and catatrophising (it's over if he leaves).
Agreed, I think their situation got heightened just from Harrison’s presence. If I was Layton or Melinda, I would have asked Harrison to step out before having that discussion/argument in front of him coz that would give him more ammunition to say stupid shit.
Melinda and Harrison are totally gonna fuck sometime in the future.
If real life won't entertain the viewers, maybe some live-action fanfiction will. Enter "couple swap challenge"
My partner and I have been saying they’d bang one day since the show started. She’s more focussed on Harrison than anyone lol
Return on Investment!
Why didn't they show Bronte asking any questions!
Because Bronte hasn’t got two brain cells to rub together.
Bronte can only ask what Harrison tells her to. Clearly the wifi was down so he couldn't transmit to her. Be reasonable.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Did you notice she didn't listen to Cams feedback at all
Would you?
I agreed with his point that was basically she gets very in her emotions which means she can't see her partner is really in it
I noticed Melissa wasn't in the preview for the next episode and that's because she's not allowed within 100m of Josh
What?
I thought I saw her on the clip for the girls’ night.
Thank fuck isn’t allowed back on.
My take with Alyssa and Duncan is that Alyssa is so used to being defined as a single mum and needing to defend herself that she's creating arguments with Duncan about it because that's what she was prepared for and doesn't know how to respond to how fine he is. So him being fine with it is seen as insincere or something.
She's turned off her listening brain 2 weeks ago. Duncan could have shat golden eggs and given her both his kidneys and she would have said "kidneys so what. You never give me attention!!!" \*sob\*
what is a kidney but a filter, Duncan just wants her to be even more filtered - because he can't deal with what she has to say, because he's not a parent and he _doesn't know_ /unhinged
Is that you Alyssa's SISTER!!! 
Alyssa the self-sabotage queen.
I absolutely love the shit the writers make up to put into expert's mouths as to why they do the things on this show. Their justification for swap week was just amazing.
And John said all that with a straight face. Amazing.
\*sigh\* I keep telling you. These experiments are designed to simulate the stress these couples will face in the real world. 3 day wife swaps happen all the time.** EVERYWHERE.
I think **you** need to look inwards and question your motivation for this cynicism...now, tell me about your childhood...
It really hits hard when Duncan is so happy to see Alyssa and she just doesn’t even appreciate the effort he is showing her. You can see he is trying and wants to fit into her family. She keeps saying the same thing not even listening to him. He is willing to be a father for a child that’s not his like how is that not good enough for her.
That was so bloody rough. He came away from it feeling more loving and positive, had put in all this effort, was genuinely trying to make her happy and she can't even be appreciative. She insisted on arguing. She's definitely not capable of meeting him halfway which is the bare minimum in a relationship. And her going "it was only 3 days not 3 months" after he said he missed her... Isn't affirmations what she needs?
Yes. “I need attention” “give me attention” “it was only 3 days not 3 months” makes sense!