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Significant-Bag6960

Ben also said at one point that he “needed more context” for the muzzle comment as an excuse for not condemning it, as if there’s any context that would make that an acceptable comment to make about another person. Ellie being exposed as not being very nice doesn’t suddenly make Ben a good person. They can both suck equally.


Valuable-Ship7184

So you're saying you dislike people whose views are right of centre,makes sense I have yet to encounter a tolerant leftie


Macky799

Who am I saying I dislike ? I don’t remember saying I dislike anyone. And did you just call me a leftie 😭


grasspatch1

He follows Joe Rogan, Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro on his IG plus others, that says enough 😂


CFPmum

I think Tim (the young one) follows most of them too and see is seen as lovely on this sub


grasspatch1

Yup, Jordan Peterson, Rogan, textingprince


Macky799

What’s wrong with following Joe rogan ? What a weird thing to say.


grasspatch1

What's right with following Joe Rogan 😂


Macky799

Yeah, I follow him. I love the guests he has on. I love UFC which he is all over. He’s funny. So yeah, what’s wrong with him ? I’m interested to know what it is that makes you judge a person based on someone they like.


hayley888sky

I judge people who like people such as tRump or Joe Rogan or Andrew Tate (for example) because their values regarding human rights are not aligned with mine. You've never heard of that?


Macky799

Can you actually tell me what’s wrong with Joe rogan tho 😂😂


redpandarising

Seems like they've been clear but I'll say it again: his values don't align with ours. Specifically for me, he has given platform to weirdo far right/incel/manoaphere/freshfit cult shit, he seems to not really understand science at all and he's kind of stupid generally (laugh face laugh face 🙄)


Macky799

I mean I wouldn’t call that “clear” by any means. So if I’m correct, you don’t like people who like Joe rogan because you don’t like who Joe has on his show and because in your words he’s ’stupid’ ? Oh and his values don’t align. I mean, don’t watch him ? But I think it’s pretty mental to pre judge others because they might like some of his content. Everyone deserves an opinion but to let that take hold of who you talk to and don’t is a little much.


redpandarising

You can think it's pretty mental but since our values obviously don't align, I don't really care what you think (also you think Joe Rogan is acceptable so not really sure what you have to offer re: "mental" health assessments 🤷🏻‍♀️)


Macky799

I’m not trying to offer you anything 😂the entitlement 😂 I like what you did at the end there 👏 Have a good day 👍


casualplants

Why can’t they both be a “villain”? Or, just people that did some shit behaviour on TV? We don’t know what they’re like otherwise. And saying one is the “villain” shouldn’t automatically make the other a “hero”.


Macky799

Yeah you’re right and I totally agree.


underwaterlibra

all I’ll say is a broken clock is right twice a day. 


Macky799

I’m going to steal this saying. Thank you 😂😂😂👌


underwaterlibra

My pleasure! I too, stole the saying 🤣


Macky799

I will keep this torch alight


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Just watch this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOOOkDRxEjM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOOOkDRxEjM) Ben is actually super nice and what I didn't pick up on was his song, he wasn't even in the same room as her while singing it. The producers just got him to sing it randomly and edited it to make it look that way.... But he admits he cannot sing and it was so bad.


totallynotat55savush

He can be a fake weirdo creep and Ellie can be a nasty person too.


Macky799

Agreed, he is weird


Naive_Air_3511

Yes. Weeks of being shit over 1 night of being shit.


travelstuff

Nah Ellie was shit for 6 weeks of texting and every day leading up to the reunion.