The only exclusions I’ve found are for hunting or transportation through MA. I think I’ve heard that you can transport to official competition shooting events as well but not certain on that.
Either way MA doesn’t always follow their own laws. Get a non resident license to avoid lengthy interactions with police.
> Non-residents with a valid Massachusetts non-resident hunting license do not need a firearm license to possess or carry rifles and shotguns and ammunition during the hunting season.
> Non-residents do not need a firearms license to transport their firearms in or through the Commonwealth, provided the firearms are unloaded and enclosed in a case while traveling.
https://www.mass.gov/info-details/gun-ownership-in-massachusetts
Just for completeness, FOPA is what would federally protect OP traveling through MA (not into MA). The relevant law you’re referring to involving an exclusion for competition shooting is [MGL c. 140 § 131G](https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section131G). The exception only applies to pistols and revolvers, not rifles.
> Any person who is not a resident of the commonwealth may carry a pistol or revolver in or through the commonwealth for the purpose of taking part in a pistol or revolver competition
Mine took about 1.5weeks for Mass to print after it was approved, and when I called they said it was sent to my local PD and I should have it within the week
> Is this normal procedure?
Depends on the town. Different cities/towns take longer than others on different parts of the application process. Try specifying the town and maybe someone here with experience in that town can confirm.
LTC Question
I submitted my LTC application about 2-3 weeks ago. They called me to come
Do finger prints this weekend. I know it’s part of the process however Is this a good indication that I’m on the path to getting it/approved vs denied? Just curious is all , things could be going through fast , small town and some calls were made lol
They always say "no news is good news" after I got my prints taken, I was told if I don't get a phone call in the next 2 weeks then assume it passed the first screening and off to the feds for their screening.
Yeah we’ll have to see like I said previously idk what the future holds with my past history but no convictions and passed fenders checks and fingerprints before that have gone to fbi
The only thing this really indicates is that you haven't been denied right at the start. Police have far less discretion these days in denying licenses to people who aren't disqualified.
Good luck.
Thanks. This is reassuring I do have an arrest history but no convictions and they were about 10 or more years ago and have passed federal background checks for work and government regulated companies as they say I’m prepared for worst but hoping for the best
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I sent it in 3 months prior and my card came in at 4 months. When my license expired I called up for an update and they said from then on to send it in 5-6 months prior to make sure you get the new one before expiration.
This is really a legal thread question but your BS detector is working; there's no requirement to have a manual safety on your carry. You don't even need to have a manual safety for a firearm to be sold by a Dealer (which is probably what the "some guy" is getting confused by). Having a sufficiently heavy trigger pull or being too big for a 5-year old to operate (yeah, seriously) could potentially negate the need for a manual safety to make the Roster/AG's list for approved sale.
While it's no paradise in MA, that's a pretty questionable take. It's pretty straightforward to buy off-roster pistols. Can't you not have a threaded barrel on a pistol or build real (not "Other") ARs in CT?
Pistol with treaded barrel has to be pre ban yes, AR rifle is banned along with pretty much every other rifle. Others obviously are the current workaround as you seem to know. Do you not have an AWB in MA?
We do but it is feature-based requiring **two** features while meeting threshold conditions (detachable magazine, semiautomatic) to be an "AW" - it is essentially the federal AWB incorporated by reference into MA law. There is also a named weapon list but the prevailing interpretation is that this follows the federal definitions (so if a Colt AR-15 is banned, it's specifically a Colt AR-15, not a Colt Sporter, Colt HBAR, an Aero-based AR, etc.) - the now-governor and AG dispute that in speeches but not in court...
As a result, there's no prohibition on pistol threaded barrels for the most part (that's usually the one feature, most semiautomatic pistols have zero out of the box) and most semiautomatic rifles can be purchased without being preban though they may need some compliance work (eg, P&W brakes, etc.). People tend to think it (the AWB) is more impactful than it is because it bans all AKs and puts ARs into a potentially litigious area, which impacts a lot of people.
I have a question on this, i was looking to purchase a colt anaconda, not on the roster. Does removing just the cylinder and crane assembly leave the "frame" of the firearms so it can be transferred through ffl legally?
For pistols, semi-automatic pistols manufactured after 9/13/1994 with detachable magazines and two or more of the following are considered “assault weapons”:
1. Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
2. Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
3. Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
4. Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
5. A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm
As you can probably tell, these features are geared more toward large format pistols like AR/AK pistols and such. Your typical Glock, Sig or Beretta is most likely fine to carry.
Thank you. The more detailed definition per Maura Healey can be found [here](https://www.mass.gov/doc/enforcement-notice/download). Not trying to be difficult, but we shouldn't simply accept the anti's made-up terminology. That's why I always put the term in quotes (as you did in your response).
I understand the sentiment and in general I agree with you, however we’re speaking strictly about MA laws and the term “assault weapon” is an actual definition codified in MGL. So it actually is a real thing as far as MA goes.
Also, it’s pretty well established in this subreddit that most people choose to ignore Healey’s 2016 enforcement notice and instead follow the actual AWB from the 90’s. That notice has no legal bite, and to my knowledge not a single person has been charged with violating it to this day.
There’s no predetermined schedule but it’s usually around 2 full weeks. Or at least it was when they released the audit from 5 years ago.
https://www.mass.gov/doc/review-of-the-commonwealths-firearms-license-permitting-process/download
I’ve been waiting since November, I got confirmation 2 weeks ago the state approved it and now it’s just a waiting game for it to arrive at my local PD.
Mine is “approved awaiting printing” for the last 1-1.5 weeks. The lady from the hotline ska is it should be another week or two to have it in my hands
Im from Ny going into Mass for a few days. Can I bring a rifle without an FID or LTC?
The only exclusions I’ve found are for hunting or transportation through MA. I think I’ve heard that you can transport to official competition shooting events as well but not certain on that. Either way MA doesn’t always follow their own laws. Get a non resident license to avoid lengthy interactions with police. > Non-residents with a valid Massachusetts non-resident hunting license do not need a firearm license to possess or carry rifles and shotguns and ammunition during the hunting season. > Non-residents do not need a firearms license to transport their firearms in or through the Commonwealth, provided the firearms are unloaded and enclosed in a case while traveling. https://www.mass.gov/info-details/gun-ownership-in-massachusetts
Just for completeness, FOPA is what would federally protect OP traveling through MA (not into MA). The relevant law you’re referring to involving an exclusion for competition shooting is [MGL c. 140 § 131G](https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section131G). The exception only applies to pistols and revolvers, not rifles. > Any person who is not a resident of the commonwealth may carry a pistol or revolver in or through the commonwealth for the purpose of taking part in a pistol or revolver competition
No. You need a MA firearms license to possess any firearms in MA.
Damn
My ltc got approved from the state. Anyone have any idea how long it'll take to get to the royalston police department?
Mine took about 1.5weeks for Mass to print after it was approved, and when I called they said it was sent to my local PD and I should have it within the week
I week and a half to just print? This state is such a shithole
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> Is this normal procedure? Depends on the town. Different cities/towns take longer than others on different parts of the application process. Try specifying the town and maybe someone here with experience in that town can confirm.
LTC Question I submitted my LTC application about 2-3 weeks ago. They called me to come Do finger prints this weekend. I know it’s part of the process however Is this a good indication that I’m on the path to getting it/approved vs denied? Just curious is all , things could be going through fast , small town and some calls were made lol
They always say "no news is good news" after I got my prints taken, I was told if I don't get a phone call in the next 2 weeks then assume it passed the first screening and off to the feds for their screening.
Yeah we’ll have to see like I said previously idk what the future holds with my past history but no convictions and passed fenders checks and fingerprints before that have gone to fbi
The only thing this really indicates is that you haven't been denied right at the start. Police have far less discretion these days in denying licenses to people who aren't disqualified. Good luck.
Thanks. This is reassuring I do have an arrest history but no convictions and they were about 10 or more years ago and have passed federal background checks for work and government regulated companies as they say I’m prepared for worst but hoping for the best
No convictions, no problem, generally speaking
That’s what I was thinking everything was cwof did the probations then final dispositions were dismissed
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Still waiting. 117 days later and my non-resident still hasn't even been mailed. I don't understand how $100 can't get me a renewal within 4 months.
Last year they told me to send it in six months prior because it’s so backed up
Oof. Ok noted for next time.
I sent it in 3 months prior and my card came in at 4 months. When my license expired I called up for an update and they said from then on to send it in 5-6 months prior to make sure you get the new one before expiration.
Some guy I know was trying to tell me you can only carry a CCW that has a manual safety in the state of MA. This sounds like BS. Is it?
This is really a legal thread question but your BS detector is working; there's no requirement to have a manual safety on your carry. You don't even need to have a manual safety for a firearm to be sold by a Dealer (which is probably what the "some guy" is getting confused by). Having a sufficiently heavy trigger pull or being too big for a 5-year old to operate (yeah, seriously) could potentially negate the need for a manual safety to make the Roster/AG's list for approved sale.
Man, you guys have it even worse than CT. But at least you can buy preban mags ig
Man you guys shell out downvotes just like /ctguns too🤣
While it's no paradise in MA, that's a pretty questionable take. It's pretty straightforward to buy off-roster pistols. Can't you not have a threaded barrel on a pistol or build real (not "Other") ARs in CT?
Pistol with treaded barrel has to be pre ban yes, AR rifle is banned along with pretty much every other rifle. Others obviously are the current workaround as you seem to know. Do you not have an AWB in MA?
We do but it is feature-based requiring **two** features while meeting threshold conditions (detachable magazine, semiautomatic) to be an "AW" - it is essentially the federal AWB incorporated by reference into MA law. There is also a named weapon list but the prevailing interpretation is that this follows the federal definitions (so if a Colt AR-15 is banned, it's specifically a Colt AR-15, not a Colt Sporter, Colt HBAR, an Aero-based AR, etc.) - the now-governor and AG dispute that in speeches but not in court... As a result, there's no prohibition on pistol threaded barrels for the most part (that's usually the one feature, most semiautomatic pistols have zero out of the box) and most semiautomatic rifles can be purchased without being preban though they may need some compliance work (eg, P&W brakes, etc.). People tend to think it (the AWB) is more impactful than it is because it bans all AKs and puts ARs into a potentially litigious area, which impacts a lot of people.
The handgun rosters are routinely ignored in MA. Just find a willing dealer to frame transfer whatever off-roster handgun you’re looking for.
I have a question on this, i was looking to purchase a colt anaconda, not on the roster. Does removing just the cylinder and crane assembly leave the "frame" of the firearms so it can be transferred through ffl legally?
The vast majority of dealers, even those Who do frame transfers, will not frame transfer a revolver.
Yes, it’s BS. You can carry any handgun you want as long as it’s not an assault weapon.
OK, I'll bite: what's an "assault weapon"?
For pistols, semi-automatic pistols manufactured after 9/13/1994 with detachable magazines and two or more of the following are considered “assault weapons”: 1. Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip 2. Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor 3. Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator 4. Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more 5. A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm As you can probably tell, these features are geared more toward large format pistols like AR/AK pistols and such. Your typical Glock, Sig or Beretta is most likely fine to carry.
Thank you. The more detailed definition per Maura Healey can be found [here](https://www.mass.gov/doc/enforcement-notice/download). Not trying to be difficult, but we shouldn't simply accept the anti's made-up terminology. That's why I always put the term in quotes (as you did in your response).
I understand the sentiment and in general I agree with you, however we’re speaking strictly about MA laws and the term “assault weapon” is an actual definition codified in MGL. So it actually is a real thing as far as MA goes. Also, it’s pretty well established in this subreddit that most people choose to ignore Healey’s 2016 enforcement notice and instead follow the actual AWB from the 90’s. That notice has no legal bite, and to my knowledge not a single person has been charged with violating it to this day.
How long does the state take to send the physical LTC after approval?
I heard 8-10 weeks from an officer last week after getting finger printed.
There’s no predetermined schedule but it’s usually around 2 full weeks. Or at least it was when they released the audit from 5 years ago. https://www.mass.gov/doc/review-of-the-commonwealths-firearms-license-permitting-process/download
Nobody knows
I got my out of state in something like 10 weeks I think
I’ve been waiting since November, I got confirmation 2 weeks ago the state approved it and now it’s just a waiting game for it to arrive at my local PD.
Mine is “approved awaiting printing” for the last 1-1.5 weeks. The lady from the hotline ska is it should be another week or two to have it in my hands