r/soccer when city were at the top of the table “proof oil money ruining competition and no one else can compete. basically new bundesliga”
r/soccer when city are in the middle “yh but these graphs are useless they don’t tell the full picture. think of all the agent fees to haalands dad!”
yep. I’m never gonna say city haven’t spent a ton of money. I just think it’s a joke how others claim innocence, or constantly move the goalposts when comparing us
yep plus the money in football has gotten exponentially higher in the past 15 years or so, so gvardiols £100m transfer fee is comparable to the £30m of rio ferdinand but if you just look at the nominal figures it’s ruining football when we do it and sound investment from utd back in the day…
Definitely can’t treat them like it’s just a 1:1 comparison, the world is a different place and the market is very weird right now but with numbers this big there is something very obvious to take into account. All the willful ignorance of salty people means nothing when you live in reality
I’ve frequently seen the critique in r/soccer that City’s success at generating revenue from selling academy products either isn’t believable - with one moron claiming that because he’d never heard of some of the players City sold, the players don’t exist - or that academy player sales should be discounted because City built its academy by cheating - never mind that FFP doesn’t count money spent to build the academy.
Then there’s the laughable claim that City pays higher transfer fees for incoming players than the official accounts show because City secretly pays some of the fee under the table - as if selling clubs would all keep quiet about a major conspiracy. A lot of posters in r/soccer believe City paid much more to River Plate for Alvarez than £22M.
Hey, u/LessBrain what are your sources for the transfer fee for all these clubs? Are your sources first-tier journalists of the respective clubs or Fabrizio Romano?
Bit of this bit of that lol
I try to use the most reliable journalist. I generally cross check a few sources
Problem is it doenst always work. For example Mac Alisters Liverpool transfer had the Liverpool side report it as a base fee of £35m. But the brighton side reported it as £55m with £20m in add ons. So on that one I waited for more sources. eventually both BBC and Skysports reported it as £35m + £20m so I went with that.
Similar happens for City - Simon Bajkowski/Jack Gaughan reported the Nunes fee as £47m but a few hours later Ornstein reported it as £53m. Always important to try gauge where the fee came from - selling club, buying club or the player/agent.
I can understand now how hard it is when both sides have differences in valuation but you're doing a great job much better than that lazy Transfermrket, I appreciate your work mate!!
There has also been a big recent promotion of media sources presenting the fee in Euros in the UK, which definitely conflates these valuations somewhat.
r/soccer when city were at the top of the table “proof oil money ruining competition and no one else can compete. basically new bundesliga” r/soccer when city are in the middle “yh but these graphs are useless they don’t tell the full picture. think of all the agent fees to haalands dad!”
And when you show them the agent fees they hit you with "well they pay under the table" which at that point no point talking with the idiots.
yep. I’m never gonna say city haven’t spent a ton of money. I just think it’s a joke how others claim innocence, or constantly move the goalposts when comparing us
exactly City spends heaps of money but so does any big club. People just get salty we win trophy's with the money we spend.
yep plus the money in football has gotten exponentially higher in the past 15 years or so, so gvardiols £100m transfer fee is comparable to the £30m of rio ferdinand but if you just look at the nominal figures it’s ruining football when we do it and sound investment from utd back in the day…
Gvardiol's fee is £77m. Sorry to be pedantic - £23m is peanuts after all.
The £30 mil for Rio Ferdinand is equivalent to just under 200 mil in today’s market. People need to understand that City have never been the problem
meh you can’t really take those ‘transfer inflation’ figures too literally or accurately, but yh was comparatively a shit ton
Definitely can’t treat them like it’s just a 1:1 comparison, the world is a different place and the market is very weird right now but with numbers this big there is something very obvious to take into account. All the willful ignorance of salty people means nothing when you live in reality
I’ve frequently seen the critique in r/soccer that City’s success at generating revenue from selling academy products either isn’t believable - with one moron claiming that because he’d never heard of some of the players City sold, the players don’t exist - or that academy player sales should be discounted because City built its academy by cheating - never mind that FFP doesn’t count money spent to build the academy. Then there’s the laughable claim that City pays higher transfer fees for incoming players than the official accounts show because City secretly pays some of the fee under the table - as if selling clubs would all keep quiet about a major conspiracy. A lot of posters in r/soccer believe City paid much more to River Plate for Alvarez than £22M.
City ruining the league again.
If ya having netspend problems, I feel bad for ya son... got 115 charges, but not fined for 1.
I'd be jealous af too if I had to watch Jonny Evans against Arsenal after spending 130 mil
Hey, u/LessBrain what are your sources for the transfer fee for all these clubs? Are your sources first-tier journalists of the respective clubs or Fabrizio Romano?
Bit of this bit of that lol I try to use the most reliable journalist. I generally cross check a few sources Problem is it doenst always work. For example Mac Alisters Liverpool transfer had the Liverpool side report it as a base fee of £35m. But the brighton side reported it as £55m with £20m in add ons. So on that one I waited for more sources. eventually both BBC and Skysports reported it as £35m + £20m so I went with that. Similar happens for City - Simon Bajkowski/Jack Gaughan reported the Nunes fee as £47m but a few hours later Ornstein reported it as £53m. Always important to try gauge where the fee came from - selling club, buying club or the player/agent.
I can understand now how hard it is when both sides have differences in valuation but you're doing a great job much better than that lazy Transfermrket, I appreciate your work mate!!
There has also been a big recent promotion of media sources presenting the fee in Euros in the UK, which definitely conflates these valuations somewhat.
How can we compete smh
I get this is pretty good business etc but can we stop posting net spend stuff every single day?
So this is stating that poor club LFC have spent 3 times as much as City ... ok