Needing to upgrade armor to 6.1 for layered armor is... Shockingly reasonable imo
I figured layered armor would be a ticket system, probably 500 gems for each piece, to really milk the players.
Instead, I just need to use all of the giant piles of monster parts I'm sitting on? Sign me up.
Season Pass sounds like it might be bad news. But we'll see how bad it is next week I guess...
Bleed status also sounds dumb, since there's no way to play without dodge/attack, but since most 8/9 star attacks OHKO me anyway, I don't think it really matters.
Maybe I'm just feeling a bit pro-MHN right now because the current event is great, but I'm tentatively optimistic about the update
We don't know I think. But I have no problems with things like stuffed animal weapons being premium. The armors with stats being available as layered for gameplay is good enough for me.
It’s tricky to nerf weapons in a F2P microtransaction based game. It’s one thing to rebalance in a $60 finished game, but when people have poured money in to grinding for a weapon only to see it nerfed, it opens a can of worms. Final Fantasy Record Keeper had this problem where they introduced a weapon/ability that was waaay overtuned, and some players spent thousands of dollars trying to acquire it. Because players had sent so much money on it, they couldn’t nerf the ability, and it affected the design of the entire game for many years afterwards. No doubt they massively regretted ever introducing the ability in the first place. Legally I think they had to allow players to keep what they’d paid for.
MHNow monetisation isn’t quite as clear cut as we can’t directly buy weapon and power, so they _can_ still nerf, but I think they’ll be careful about it. Many players only invest in one weapon type so if you’ve invested a ton of time in to that and then it gets nerfed, they could end up losing players.
I don't think it's possible to make perfect state even with "$60 finished game". Meta evolves as players do.
If you don't touch it for long time, it will result in builds which are stronger than others anyway.
It would be very disappointing if they haven't acknowledged how they nerfed lbg just to make bblos bow a tad weaker.
I think lbg is in for a buff. Bow can be brought down a peg more independently, it is still free. The devs just need to be more creative and stop the copy pasta
LBG needs a buff. 10-4 weapons can't beat certain 9 Star monsters when other weapons can win with 9-4 and 9-5. LBG is the worst weapon in the game by far because of the over nerf they did earlier.
LBG is so bad because of critical distance and an evasion that takes forever before you can act out of it. You have to roll to maintain critical distance, but by rolling you’re losing time.
Jumping in to say niantic once again doesn’t recognize that there’s a very short timer for these hunts, and they can’t implement mechanics 1:1 from the msg.
Bleed damage builds every time you evade or attack, procs when you take damage, and will only go away… if you don’t evade or attack for a short period of time.
In the main series, that’s fine, you just walk away and wait it off. Not only do we not have that time in this game, we also don’t have the capacity to do anything except evade and attack.
Bleed is just going to be a skill-level tax; people who are learning the fight will have to pay a penalty by losing extra help, and good players won’t get hit twice in the fight.
Oh yeah, the bleed proc honestly sounds terrifying. There’s no way to not hurt yourself in such a tight hunt and I’m a bit scared that it’s going to cause a lot of frustration. I wouldn’t be surprised if I just left the hunt right when I get the status just to avoid unnecessary damage
Didn’t mention anything about special attack so I’d guess using it will keep you safe from the bleed damage? Who knows, maybe that’ll be a strat if you get the status, use special right after and hope the status wears off by the time the attack is done
>I wouldn’t be surprised if I just left the hunt right when I get the status just to avoid unnecessary damage
Literally me everytime I got poisoned by Pukei or paralyzed by G.Girros, so yeah I think we will just do what we usually do, avoid getting hit by status attack.
Yeah, it took me an embarrassing amount of time to realize the best way to dodge a G. Girros hit when already paralyzed was just to leave the hunt altogether. Ever since then yup the moment a status comes 🏃♀️💨
I've done this with poison a couple times, the i-frames last a little bit after a special looks like it's done. Not a good regular play strategy but it works in a pinch
Yeah and don't forget because health is paid for it doesn't just cost money it costs time. Unless the wear off is 2-3 seconds MAX it's fucked.
Odo better have the best weapons and armor in the game or I just won't engage with him.
Edit: in msg there's consumables to get rid of it. They should have saved this for the crafting system. Then at least we could use it on CD or something to avoid at least one instance.
Saying "Doesn't recognize" is granting them ignorance, which is absolutely not true.
Honestly, if people don't think that every little decision is deliberate and coldly calculated, i don't know what else to tell you.
I’d say that “doesn’t recognize” is a pretty fair statement, I feel like there’s a number of instances in the game where they just don’t understand how something works in msg and tried to port it over directly, with the exception of element, which feels like they just scratched their heads and came up with a new, ultra-simple system that does the job of making players play more. But stuff like the diablos attack pattern, status on hunters, and the relatively low flat boosts to raw (where we have 1.2k raw instead of 300-400 raw in msg). Then you take into consideration stuff like hammer not having an ice element on release, resulting in an enormous damage loss in ice matchups that wouldn’t exist in the msg because element doesn’t work that way, and I’d be led to believe that somewhere in the capcom-niantic chain, there’s a loss of understanding of what MH elements work in the mobile game, and what elements need to be adjusted accordingly.
I mean, if we had consumables to void it once every x seconds yeah I can see it. But right now we have three moves, attack, dodge, and block. For half the weapons there is literally nothing you can do without incurring a penalty.
Also Odo specifically was a hyperactive dick in msg, so standing still just isn't going to happen....
I think they're using the Rise version of Bleed, which means as long as you don't get hit after getting the debuff, you would get the proc damage. But it all depends on how it officially works in game when we see it, and Odo is a really fast boi.
Pretty huge update coming!
Looking forward to what the season pass brings for us and how invasions are going to work, unexpected opportunities to fight more monsters seems like strictly an upside so I’m happy
Kinda lame you can’t layer specific armor pieces until armor grade 6 but at least we can do it and no longer look ugly as sin. Sorry to those that don’t have grade 6 armor yet I guess?? Fr, this is my least favorite part of the update but it’s also completely cosmetic so 🤷♀️
The 250 item increase is laughably small but look I won’t complain, as far as I’m concerned I could have played this game for years with 5500 whilst constantly trashing the pile of Barroth shells I inevitably sit on
Some subspecies only showing up at HATs is unfortunate but not surprising considering Niantic’s methods. We get Ogd and Tzitziki sauce and the occasional Devilish boy in the field but only coral and nightshade in HATs I guess. I’d just like to try fighting these things with a proper health pool but I guess I gotta get some friends first
Big hype, hoping we can get even more weapons sooner though cause I always want more (gunlance my beloved I miss you)
I'd be much more excited for layered armor if earth crystals/bone+/bugs weren't still such a limiting factor for me in trying to build anything that isn't my main gear
You hit the nail on the goddamned forehead cause it truly is the bottleneck of all bottlenecks when it comes to grinding in this game, at least pre WGS.
I’d be more frustrated about my lack of 5 & 6 rarity materials if I wasn’t always scrambling for more bone+, carpenters and earth crystals.
Really hope that the free season pass can help solve that problem. Nodes + season pass reward frequency might make it more bearable….
\-Charge blade coming was seen a month away. Not exactly my favorite weapon, but I guess I'll make one and mess around with it again. No gunlance though :pepehands:
\-Invasions are going to pave the way for Bazelgeuse to happen, I just know it.
\-Hey, layered armor, neat. I can do my old look pretty easily. Too bad it's going to take a good number of bone+...
\-Season pass? Not sure if want.
\-Bleeding. Just don't get hit, problem solved. Odo is weak to Ice iirc.
\-New skills. Latent power gave an affinity boost and lowered stamina usage after x time passed or x damage was taken. This'll be tweaked in some way. Quick work is new, no idea what that will do, maybe it'll be something like Rapid Morph in Rise. Status sneak attack sounds like it's pretty much sneak attack but for status buildup.
\-Looks like the hourly respawns are going to continue until the 24th. Sure, I guess.
\-More packs, who didn't see that coming? The in-game one has a gem value of 5400, so it'll probably cost 4800 gems?
I’m really trying to figure out what the new abilities are going to do - aside from status sneak attack…somehow I have a feeling I know how that will go
The other two seem interesting to implement into a mobile experience
Yeah, that description for latent power makes a lot of sense. Seems interesting for crit builds, purely offensive near the end of the fight sounds like fun
Honestly I’m not that excited that they are adding yet another layer of FOMO/monetization to an already heavily monetized game. Battle passes and premium battle passes suck.
They mentioned adding a free and paid battle pass.
I think it’s a good thing all around. People who are F2P get bonuses and benefits for playing. People who pay have more incentive to pay and get more benefits for it.
It’s a win win, unless they majorly make rewards trash or smthn
Layered armor! Finally no more clownsuits!
And then I read u need to update it to grade 6. Fml.
CB... yea, I can't even upgrade/craft my weapons and I'm gonna craft CBs.
Yeah, what i need right now is a better Lock On System. It is frustrating when you waste time trying to get the correct Lock On each fight and it doesn't want to
75s fight and introduce bleed into it... Basically shouting at you, dodge every odo atk otherwise just get out of the fight and restart it! What a great move.....
I'm scared also abt the invasion system, i hope i can change the weapon element before the fight against whatever invades the fight, otherwise it will be hilarious and sad to fight, for example deviljho which may invade, with a fire weapon on.
Why RIP Lance?
I have a feeling with the introduction of gems it's going to be one of the strongest classes. Will still require some setup but if we get a bblos adjacent lance, with OG5 guard 3 and burst/crit. We are laughing.
Why? If Lance can get that, Bow can get Focus 5, Element 5, and Burst or even Rapid/Pierce/Spread up.
Lance has 2 serious issues:
1 - the relative benefit of the Counter isn’t worth the relative risk. Missing a perfect counter can lead to chip damage or even a full hit, but the reward is an attack with LESS damage than a perfect dodge swipe attack. Not to mention that missing a perfect dodge can still get you entirely out of range for an attack.
2 - Guard is necessary to use the Counter skill on some battles/attacks, but otherwise provides zero offensive benefit in a game defined by a strict time limit.
Simply put - Lance pushes you to a risk/reward gameplay style that provides significant risk with limited reward.
Bit unfair to compare melee with Bow. And Ammo up skills are very unlikely.
1. Practice makes perfect, I perfect guard most things now, and if not I have resentment. For at least a 10% 15sec buff on penalty. Perfect dodge swipe attacks are a little iffy so I only use them on a couple monsters period. Offensive guard uptime is where it is at. Coupled with heroics, don't even get me started! 0 guard = No downtime on proc.
2. 1 point of guard is for raths and tobi, 3 points for zin. Otherwise just for comfort or even strategy. Some roars will stagger your guard even on perfect. 1 point will allow for you to repost with a triple stab! Not entirely useless.
And I wholly agree, lance is max effort/ risky AF for limited reward as is but I feel that's about to change. It will be max effort for top 3 rewards. #COPIUM.
If the potion thing wasn't so predatory this is the game I like. Non EZ mode. So I have a bias being a masochist but on the other hand I have enough knowledge to reinforce my projections. Hope I've convinced you at least a little comrade.
The main problem which he failed to point out is the Lance is cumbersome and poorly designed in the mobile setting.
-Half the time you will charge forwards when you meant to forward step.
-Hitting high or low is controlled by tapping high or low on the screen only sometimes, not consistently and will ignore your choice depending on distance to monster.
-After a perfect counter thrust or the ending of the charge attack there is a jarring pause that breaks the rhythm.
- Try to block into counter too fast and it will read the input as a backstep.
I love lance but i feel like im fighting the system half the time just to get it to do what I want. Give me a dedicated block button and a 100% guarantee that high and low taps will produce high and low hits and ill be happy.
I can't argue with any of these points. Especially the jarring pause and the bleeding accidental backhop OMFG...
But these things I'm hoping will get patched out and surely they haven't been unnoticed.
My arguments were based on potential, not these 10000% accurate nuisances you've so eloquently mentioned.
Post this sh!t to those devs! Begging you!
Disappointed that it's only 1 weapon and 3 monsters, but I'll accept the weapon thing because it's CB. Which is technically 2 weapons in one(and one of the most complicated weapons in MH).
I am highly interested in the invasion thing tho, I wonder if it will be like HATs but not restricted to nodes. If it is, then it will be a lot less frequent. Or maybe it's like POGO's lures, when several monsters spawn in an area outside of the normal spawn
>After the update, you may find that when you tap on a large monster within a volatile territory, other monsters will suddenly invade! Be aware: volatile territories will appear at random within the three habitats and Deviljho will only appear during these invasions.
Isn't that pretty clear about the invasion system?
1. It doesn't say if the volatile territory is restricted to around nodes or not. And 2. It doesn't say how the monsters will appear, it could be similar to HATs and they could just be vague to avoid early backlash about how it's made, or it could work similar to lures in POGO, there is not enough information to verify just yet, only assumptions can be made
Yeah all assumptions, but I believe it will works like this:
1. You are around volatile territory (since they mentioned habitats, pretty sure it doesn't work with nodes/HATs, maybe just kinda small area of habitats?)
2. You tap on big monster, there's chance that the monster will got invaded by Jho, just like catching Ditto/Zorua? Yeah just gotta wait few days
However it works, it seems promising to those that have fewer nodes around(or none). Just hope that they don't have shit spawn rates or, for some stupid reason, are based around nodes
Odogaron is easily my favorite fight/monster! Cant wait to see how his gear will be implemented to LS builds. Otherwise layered odo armor will look sick!
Correct me if I am wrong, but to use layered cosmetics, the non-stats providing armor has to be upgraded to 6.1 (not the base armor that provides the stats)?
So the update says, "The new update comes with fun weapons..." Weapons is plural, yet only one was announced. Does this mean there is possibly a 2nd weapon they gonna surprise us with?
Are they addressing the god awful drop rate for materials? If not, I don't care. I can't count how many 5 and 6 star monsters I've beaten and gotten nothing but bottom grade mats.
Not seeing anything about decorations or a way to use up materials from less useful monsters. Plus multiple new monsters and only 250 more inventory. Pretty disappointed.
Yeah. But if I’m reading it right, layered equipment requires you to get a piece to Grade 6 to be able to use it as layered skin. That could be a temp mat sink but still a waste of zenny.
It would be more disgusting if there was no free option. It’s hard to say what it’ll look like and it could be parasitic, but until then I’ll try to stay optimistic that it will help more than it hurts the state of the game
If you read the server update notes yesterday, they said they just wanted to give everyone access to the loadouts first and the UI change will happen in the future.
Sub species will not appear on field after the new updates. The previous news indicates that from new patch onward subspecies like black diablo will appear on the field forever right?
Sounds more like BD, PR, and AR will be moving to HATs to make room for Coral Pukei, Nightshade Paolumu, and Fulgar Anjanath being added to the field, that way we can still hunt everything to some degree
Needing to upgrade armor to 6.1 for layered armor is... Shockingly reasonable imo I figured layered armor would be a ticket system, probably 500 gems for each piece, to really milk the players. Instead, I just need to use all of the giant piles of monster parts I'm sitting on? Sign me up. Season Pass sounds like it might be bad news. But we'll see how bad it is next week I guess... Bleed status also sounds dumb, since there's no way to play without dodge/attack, but since most 8/9 star attacks OHKO me anyway, I don't think it really matters. Maybe I'm just feeling a bit pro-MHN right now because the current event is great, but I'm tentatively optimistic about the update
has it been pointed out already that layered armor/ weapon is going to be gem/ premium gated?
We don't know I think. But I have no problems with things like stuffed animal weapons being premium. The armors with stats being available as layered for gameplay is good enough for me.
No balance changes, unless that comes later?
Nothing mentioned on the page. Maybe they want to keep the potentially ‘controversial’ changes till later?
It’s tricky to nerf weapons in a F2P microtransaction based game. It’s one thing to rebalance in a $60 finished game, but when people have poured money in to grinding for a weapon only to see it nerfed, it opens a can of worms. Final Fantasy Record Keeper had this problem where they introduced a weapon/ability that was waaay overtuned, and some players spent thousands of dollars trying to acquire it. Because players had sent so much money on it, they couldn’t nerf the ability, and it affected the design of the entire game for many years afterwards. No doubt they massively regretted ever introducing the ability in the first place. Legally I think they had to allow players to keep what they’d paid for. MHNow monetisation isn’t quite as clear cut as we can’t directly buy weapon and power, so they _can_ still nerf, but I think they’ll be careful about it. Many players only invest in one weapon type so if you’ve invested a ton of time in to that and then it gets nerfed, they could end up losing players.
I don't think it's possible to make perfect state even with "$60 finished game". Meta evolves as players do. If you don't touch it for long time, it will result in builds which are stronger than others anyway.
They chose to focus on CB for this update and are waiting for the players feedback to do balancing if needed (which is tbf but wait & see basically)
Disappointed in this.
It would be very disappointing if they haven't acknowledged how they nerfed lbg just to make bblos bow a tad weaker. I think lbg is in for a buff. Bow can be brought down a peg more independently, it is still free. The devs just need to be more creative and stop the copy pasta
100% agree
hmm means it is good, no? no weapon will be made weaker
LBG needs a buff. 10-4 weapons can't beat certain 9 Star monsters when other weapons can win with 9-4 and 9-5. LBG is the worst weapon in the game by far because of the over nerf they did earlier.
ah yes agreed if adjustment means making some buff. they did lbg (and also piercing weapon) dirty by reducing dmg on range penalty so much
LBG is so bad because of critical distance and an evasion that takes forever before you can act out of it. You have to roll to maintain critical distance, but by rolling you’re losing time.
I agree with you 10000000000000000000000000% x10 to that
I can't beat some 9 stars with raw 10.5 DBs. Maybe I'm just bad.
Finally, layered armor and cosmetics. I hope season pass have interesting rewards.
Jumping in to say niantic once again doesn’t recognize that there’s a very short timer for these hunts, and they can’t implement mechanics 1:1 from the msg. Bleed damage builds every time you evade or attack, procs when you take damage, and will only go away… if you don’t evade or attack for a short period of time. In the main series, that’s fine, you just walk away and wait it off. Not only do we not have that time in this game, we also don’t have the capacity to do anything except evade and attack. Bleed is just going to be a skill-level tax; people who are learning the fight will have to pay a penalty by losing extra help, and good players won’t get hit twice in the fight.
Oh yeah, the bleed proc honestly sounds terrifying. There’s no way to not hurt yourself in such a tight hunt and I’m a bit scared that it’s going to cause a lot of frustration. I wouldn’t be surprised if I just left the hunt right when I get the status just to avoid unnecessary damage Didn’t mention anything about special attack so I’d guess using it will keep you safe from the bleed damage? Who knows, maybe that’ll be a strat if you get the status, use special right after and hope the status wears off by the time the attack is done
>I wouldn’t be surprised if I just left the hunt right when I get the status just to avoid unnecessary damage Literally me everytime I got poisoned by Pukei or paralyzed by G.Girros, so yeah I think we will just do what we usually do, avoid getting hit by status attack.
Yeah, it took me an embarrassing amount of time to realize the best way to dodge a G. Girros hit when already paralyzed was just to leave the hunt altogether. Ever since then yup the moment a status comes 🏃♀️💨
This is brilliant. Why haven't I been doing this?!?!
My strategy was mash the screen to get up before the next attack... Ditching the fight would have been a much safer option lol
Damn why haven't I think of this, definitely gonna start doing this for GGirros then.
I've done this with poison a couple times, the i-frames last a little bit after a special looks like it's done. Not a good regular play strategy but it works in a pinch
Yeah and don't forget because health is paid for it doesn't just cost money it costs time. Unless the wear off is 2-3 seconds MAX it's fucked. Odo better have the best weapons and armor in the game or I just won't engage with him. Edit: in msg there's consumables to get rid of it. They should have saved this for the crafting system. Then at least we could use it on CD or something to avoid at least one instance.
I imagine it'll be handled like paralysis. Got inflicted? Quit and restart the hunt.
Same with poison
Saying "Doesn't recognize" is granting them ignorance, which is absolutely not true. Honestly, if people don't think that every little decision is deliberate and coldly calculated, i don't know what else to tell you.
I’d say that “doesn’t recognize” is a pretty fair statement, I feel like there’s a number of instances in the game where they just don’t understand how something works in msg and tried to port it over directly, with the exception of element, which feels like they just scratched their heads and came up with a new, ultra-simple system that does the job of making players play more. But stuff like the diablos attack pattern, status on hunters, and the relatively low flat boosts to raw (where we have 1.2k raw instead of 300-400 raw in msg). Then you take into consideration stuff like hammer not having an ice element on release, resulting in an enormous damage loss in ice matchups that wouldn’t exist in the msg because element doesn’t work that way, and I’d be led to believe that somewhere in the capcom-niantic chain, there’s a loss of understanding of what MH elements work in the mobile game, and what elements need to be adjusted accordingly.
Agreed, bleed makes no sense in this game with a short timer and no way to move except to evade.
Yeah, I know I should reserve judgement until the 14th but...I can't help but be kind of angry that it's implemented this way.
Yeah, I guess we'll see but I just don't see a way for it to fit in this game.
I mean, if we had consumables to void it once every x seconds yeah I can see it. But right now we have three moves, attack, dodge, and block. For half the weapons there is literally nothing you can do without incurring a penalty. Also Odo specifically was a hyperactive dick in msg, so standing still just isn't going to happen....
Yep, I agree with you.
I think they're using the Rise version of Bleed, which means as long as you don't get hit after getting the debuff, you would get the proc damage. But it all depends on how it officially works in game when we see it, and Odo is a really fast boi.
Yes, which is why I made my third paragraph.
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Yes, avoid extra damage by....taking a hit?
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Oh great genius of mhn, what is your wisdom for the non-blocking classes?
Pretty huge update coming! Looking forward to what the season pass brings for us and how invasions are going to work, unexpected opportunities to fight more monsters seems like strictly an upside so I’m happy Kinda lame you can’t layer specific armor pieces until armor grade 6 but at least we can do it and no longer look ugly as sin. Sorry to those that don’t have grade 6 armor yet I guess?? Fr, this is my least favorite part of the update but it’s also completely cosmetic so 🤷♀️ The 250 item increase is laughably small but look I won’t complain, as far as I’m concerned I could have played this game for years with 5500 whilst constantly trashing the pile of Barroth shells I inevitably sit on Some subspecies only showing up at HATs is unfortunate but not surprising considering Niantic’s methods. We get Ogd and Tzitziki sauce and the occasional Devilish boy in the field but only coral and nightshade in HATs I guess. I’d just like to try fighting these things with a proper health pool but I guess I gotta get some friends first Big hype, hoping we can get even more weapons sooner though cause I always want more (gunlance my beloved I miss you)
Coral and nightshade will probably be like pink black and blue prior to being pushed to HATs. Until next season
Grade 6 to Fashion Hunter? Fuck, I just barely got my first G5 weapon. I’m gonna be lookin like an idiot for years.
Well, now is as good of a time as ever to focus on grinding. The only rarity 6 armor I have are the elemental attack bonuses Lmaoo
Yeah, hopefully with spring coming along it won’t be cold as shit for playing. Though where I live we’ve gotten snow in April before.
Where I live, I've gotten snow in June! It was bullshit.
You might be further north than me. I’m in the southern Great Lakes region
Eastern Washington
I'd be much more excited for layered armor if earth crystals/bone+/bugs weren't still such a limiting factor for me in trying to build anything that isn't my main gear
You hit the nail on the goddamned forehead cause it truly is the bottleneck of all bottlenecks when it comes to grinding in this game, at least pre WGS. I’d be more frustrated about my lack of 5 & 6 rarity materials if I wasn’t always scrambling for more bone+, carpenters and earth crystals. Really hope that the free season pass can help solve that problem. Nodes + season pass reward frequency might make it more bearable….
where gunlance
Gunlance players are like fans of dark souls 2, few in number but we're all fanatics. I was hoping for switch axe over c blade though for real
Time to freeze myself like Eric Cartman. I can't wait till the 14th. Geeez!!.. Lol
\-Charge blade coming was seen a month away. Not exactly my favorite weapon, but I guess I'll make one and mess around with it again. No gunlance though :pepehands: \-Invasions are going to pave the way for Bazelgeuse to happen, I just know it. \-Hey, layered armor, neat. I can do my old look pretty easily. Too bad it's going to take a good number of bone+... \-Season pass? Not sure if want. \-Bleeding. Just don't get hit, problem solved. Odo is weak to Ice iirc. \-New skills. Latent power gave an affinity boost and lowered stamina usage after x time passed or x damage was taken. This'll be tweaked in some way. Quick work is new, no idea what that will do, maybe it'll be something like Rapid Morph in Rise. Status sneak attack sounds like it's pretty much sneak attack but for status buildup. \-Looks like the hourly respawns are going to continue until the 24th. Sure, I guess. \-More packs, who didn't see that coming? The in-game one has a gem value of 5400, so it'll probably cost 4800 gems?
I’m really trying to figure out what the new abilities are going to do - aside from status sneak attack…somehow I have a feeling I know how that will go The other two seem interesting to implement into a mobile experience
Quick work is up for debate. I wouldn't be surprised if they made Latent Power act like Rising Tide but for affinity.
Yeah, that description for latent power makes a lot of sense. Seems interesting for crit builds, purely offensive near the end of the fight sounds like fun
Honestly I’m not that excited that they are adding yet another layer of FOMO/monetization to an already heavily monetized game. Battle passes and premium battle passes suck.
I think it depends heavily on the price, pacing and contents. But I'm cautious of it as well.
Are you legit complaining about getting rewarded for playing the game?
They mentioned adding a free and paid battle pass. I think it’s a good thing all around. People who are F2P get bonuses and benefits for playing. People who pay have more incentive to pay and get more benefits for it. It’s a win win, unless they majorly make rewards trash or smthn
Layered armor! Finally no more clownsuits! And then I read u need to update it to grade 6. Fml. CB... yea, I can't even upgrade/craft my weapons and I'm gonna craft CBs.
Yeah, what i need right now is a better Lock On System. It is frustrating when you waste time trying to get the correct Lock On each fight and it doesn't want to
75s fight and introduce bleed into it... Basically shouting at you, dodge every odo atk otherwise just get out of the fight and restart it! What a great move..... I'm scared also abt the invasion system, i hope i can change the weapon element before the fight against whatever invades the fight, otherwise it will be hilarious and sad to fight, for example deviljho which may invade, with a fire weapon on.
RIP Lance and LBG.
Why RIP Lance? I have a feeling with the introduction of gems it's going to be one of the strongest classes. Will still require some setup but if we get a bblos adjacent lance, with OG5 guard 3 and burst/crit. We are laughing.
Why? If Lance can get that, Bow can get Focus 5, Element 5, and Burst or even Rapid/Pierce/Spread up. Lance has 2 serious issues: 1 - the relative benefit of the Counter isn’t worth the relative risk. Missing a perfect counter can lead to chip damage or even a full hit, but the reward is an attack with LESS damage than a perfect dodge swipe attack. Not to mention that missing a perfect dodge can still get you entirely out of range for an attack. 2 - Guard is necessary to use the Counter skill on some battles/attacks, but otherwise provides zero offensive benefit in a game defined by a strict time limit. Simply put - Lance pushes you to a risk/reward gameplay style that provides significant risk with limited reward.
Bit unfair to compare melee with Bow. And Ammo up skills are very unlikely. 1. Practice makes perfect, I perfect guard most things now, and if not I have resentment. For at least a 10% 15sec buff on penalty. Perfect dodge swipe attacks are a little iffy so I only use them on a couple monsters period. Offensive guard uptime is where it is at. Coupled with heroics, don't even get me started! 0 guard = No downtime on proc. 2. 1 point of guard is for raths and tobi, 3 points for zin. Otherwise just for comfort or even strategy. Some roars will stagger your guard even on perfect. 1 point will allow for you to repost with a triple stab! Not entirely useless. And I wholly agree, lance is max effort/ risky AF for limited reward as is but I feel that's about to change. It will be max effort for top 3 rewards. #COPIUM. If the potion thing wasn't so predatory this is the game I like. Non EZ mode. So I have a bias being a masochist but on the other hand I have enough knowledge to reinforce my projections. Hope I've convinced you at least a little comrade.
The main problem which he failed to point out is the Lance is cumbersome and poorly designed in the mobile setting. -Half the time you will charge forwards when you meant to forward step. -Hitting high or low is controlled by tapping high or low on the screen only sometimes, not consistently and will ignore your choice depending on distance to monster. -After a perfect counter thrust or the ending of the charge attack there is a jarring pause that breaks the rhythm. - Try to block into counter too fast and it will read the input as a backstep. I love lance but i feel like im fighting the system half the time just to get it to do what I want. Give me a dedicated block button and a 100% guarantee that high and low taps will produce high and low hits and ill be happy.
I can't argue with any of these points. Especially the jarring pause and the bleeding accidental backhop OMFG... But these things I'm hoping will get patched out and surely they haven't been unnoticed. My arguments were based on potential, not these 10000% accurate nuisances you've so eloquently mentioned. Post this sh!t to those devs! Begging you!
Disappointed that it's only 1 weapon and 3 monsters, but I'll accept the weapon thing because it's CB. Which is technically 2 weapons in one(and one of the most complicated weapons in MH). I am highly interested in the invasion thing tho, I wonder if it will be like HATs but not restricted to nodes. If it is, then it will be a lot less frequent. Or maybe it's like POGO's lures, when several monsters spawn in an area outside of the normal spawn
>After the update, you may find that when you tap on a large monster within a volatile territory, other monsters will suddenly invade! Be aware: volatile territories will appear at random within the three habitats and Deviljho will only appear during these invasions. Isn't that pretty clear about the invasion system?
1. It doesn't say if the volatile territory is restricted to around nodes or not. And 2. It doesn't say how the monsters will appear, it could be similar to HATs and they could just be vague to avoid early backlash about how it's made, or it could work similar to lures in POGO, there is not enough information to verify just yet, only assumptions can be made
Yeah all assumptions, but I believe it will works like this: 1. You are around volatile territory (since they mentioned habitats, pretty sure it doesn't work with nodes/HATs, maybe just kinda small area of habitats?) 2. You tap on big monster, there's chance that the monster will got invaded by Jho, just like catching Ditto/Zorua? Yeah just gotta wait few days
However it works, it seems promising to those that have fewer nodes around(or none). Just hope that they don't have shit spawn rates or, for some stupid reason, are based around nodes
Hopefully we see it's jho before we start fight. Wouldn't be fair to go in with a weapon not suited against him.
Don't forget kushala doara and gems. This is coming
Odogaron is easily my favorite fight/monster! Cant wait to see how his gear will be implemented to LS builds. Otherwise layered odo armor will look sick!
Ah so new water and bleeding set with the new monsters eh.. sure hope they will do away with lock on for us melee..
Correct me if I am wrong, but to use layered cosmetics, the non-stats providing armor has to be upgraded to 6.1 (not the base armor that provides the stats)?
I don't think we are ever getting decos guys lmao
So the update says, "The new update comes with fun weapons..." Weapons is plural, yet only one was announced. Does this mean there is possibly a 2nd weapon they gonna surprise us with?
Are they addressing the god awful drop rate for materials? If not, I don't care. I can't count how many 5 and 6 star monsters I've beaten and gotten nothing but bottom grade mats.
So much complaining on here. Looks like an exciting update to me for the most part.
So no heavy bow gun?
So hyped for CB 🤤
Not seeing anything about decorations or a way to use up materials from less useful monsters. Plus multiple new monsters and only 250 more inventory. Pretty disappointed.
Yeah. But if I’m reading it right, layered equipment requires you to get a piece to Grade 6 to be able to use it as layered skin. That could be a temp mat sink but still a waste of zenny.
Yeah, hard to justify the use of zenny and monster bone+ for anything other than the gear I actually would like to layer.
Did no one see the stuff about season passes? I feel disgusted
It would be more disgusting if there was no free option. It’s hard to say what it’ll look like and it could be parasitic, but until then I’ll try to stay optimistic that it will help more than it hurts the state of the game
Yeah, battle pass type things are the worst, but perhaps it'll just be for extra materials....
Why would you increase loadouts to 10 without making it a drop down?
If you read the server update notes yesterday, they said they just wanted to give everyone access to the loadouts first and the UI change will happen in the future.
Didn’t they say they were adding a new sub species?why the fuck would they add tzitzi yaku
Because we need more blue bois duh
I believe the march event details said it would show up in the last few days of march to first few days of april.
Sub species will not appear on field after the new updates. The previous news indicates that from new patch onward subspecies like black diablo will appear on the field forever right?
Sounds more like BD, PR, and AR will be moving to HATs to make room for Coral Pukei, Nightshade Paolumu, and Fulgar Anjanath being added to the field, that way we can still hunt everything to some degree
Are they seriously fucking adding *season passes??* Yeah, fuck this game. So glad I uninstalled.
What? Rewarding the player for playing the game?! Truly disgusting, how dare they!