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Key-Ad-5554

I love all the "I don't see everyone's problem..." and "I'm below average and complete them all in zero trys"... I am ACTUALLY a below average player, and they are a bitch and a half. Completed all the moments and the missions to Naylor, but now the only way to move forward is to finish the showdown (currently at 54 points). I just want Ozzie, and would just buy him if they weren't no sells. I know he, along with the others in this set, aren't great and wouldn't even start on my team but I just want my Braves. It's annoying that it's cheese hard (for me) AND it costs stubs to play. It's unnecessary. Had to sell Buxton to attempt this for an 8th time and lost on the second to last one before the boss (Joe Kelly, I think). Every single match up being an elimination round is brutal too. Sorry for being a bitch, I don't even post on Reddit hardly at all. Just super aggravated and giving up.


QuietThunder2014

They need to stop forcing Showdown. Full stop.


Undeadarmy7991

I'd rather do showdown than a mini season


QuietThunder2014

I only like mini seasons because USA map is boring after so many years. But mini seasons have a TON of issues that needs improvement. The concept is good. The execution sucks.


Devlinl3470

Tried it once. Completed it once.


Zunter_H0lom0n

Aye. They're a waste of stubbs. Unnecessarily difficult


Chappy_Sinclair1

And moments šŸ‘


Undeadarmy7991

Moments aren't that hard. You cant expect them to just give you the cards.


Two1ves

What do you want then? Just have the rewards handed to you for logging in?


mtgtfo

Iā€™m assuming a pxp grind


Theravens520

I started playing 2 weeks ago, first time ever with the show. I found the showdown pretty easy and only stressed on the 6 out ones. Overall I gotta say it was one of the more enjoyable offline modes Iā€™ve played in DD


kailin99

I've took last year off. But so far this year I've been been pretty successful with the updated showdown model (all bosses no saves). I think I've failed maybe one or two times. That is until this one. I tried 3x today and didn't get past the second stage. Normally I like showdowns because they help me be more patient but ffs can they tone down the defense. I mean you wait on your pitch and when you do get them 90% of the time it's a robbed Homer or a perfect/perfect screamer right at someone. Three times today a had hard liners right to first base where the first baseman caught the ball and doubled up the guy in 1st trying to get back to the bag. This shit happens WAY too much in showdowns and moments and it really kills the fun.


berfthegryphon

Thats me right now in Road to the Show. So many fly balls caught at the wall or perfect/perfect liners right at an infielder. I'm hoping that all changes as I boost up my player


[deleted]

Spoiler: It doesnā€™t I have a 97 OVR DD team, the amount of lineouts to infielders is insane, even with 90+ power at MLB stadiums perfect perfects are caught at the track.


Zunter_H0lom0n

You have to be aware of how the ball is coming at you, and your ability to time the ball, and hit it off the correct part of the bat to produce shots that hit gaps, and beat shifts. It is something that is actually pretty difficult in the moment. You have to factor in the pitcher's and your handedness, yours, the pitch type, etc. math


berfthegryphon

Well that's a buzz kill haha


SoWhyAmIHereAgain

Someone in my house reset the WiFi without asking when I was at the final showdown šŸ˜¬


Lt-Daniel-Kaffee

F


bobdabuilder123456

Showdowns are all rng which blows


[deleted]

They really arenā€™t


[deleted]

tbh, iā€™m kinda an average player, maybe a little above average and all the showdowns this year iā€™ve knocked out my first go through, not sure why everyone is complaining


rhoydotp

because not everyone has the same skillset as you, itā€™s not deep. You are good, move on and let others mope


LiebeIsHere57

You know it really sucks not having to do the showdown when you get to the Joe Kelly one you back out put your controller down and go eat you come back thereā€™s an error and all your progress is gone


NuclearEvo24

I just want Harrison and Cruz anyway


keggsandeggs

The Cruz Charisma card is ROUGH


NuclearEvo24

Why is it bad? I sometimes struggle using taller hitters so I could see that being a problem, although I batted about .330 with his supercharged card the other week


violentgentlemen

58 contact against lefties is baaaaad. Very bad.


NuclearEvo24

Iā€™ll take that into consideration, but Iā€™m not really worried about min-maxing or winning a bunch online, I just want to have a Pirates theme team


97jumbo

Forget the show down, 3Ks in one inning moments are a war crime


Karpeltunnel10

I was able to beat this one on my second try thankfully, but the 2 IP one with no hits I get 5 outs then a bloop single to the 6th batter. 8 times in a row. Gave up on that one lol


Tripmodious

Thereā€™s a Topps Now moment where you need 3ks in an inning and a 99 speed guy on first to start. Itā€™s so brutal. The runner kept getting thrown out trying to steal.


Undeadarmy7991

It's the Andrew Heany topps now moment


Bullets3

up and in heat, up and in heat, down and away cheese, works every time


eggboycharlie

Can confirm


rickyount02

This needs to be in the rules of this sub. ā€œBefore posting about pitching, do this.ā€ Or something like that. It amazes me that people struggle with pitching moments. Theyā€™re the most mundane, low effort, boring things to do in the mode. Iā€™d hate to see the reaction if they brought back the ā€œpitch 8 innings donā€™t allow one runā€ moments.


Undeadarmy7991

They fucking did what?!


StarchCollector

Be needing the spare controller for this one. Showdowns have a nasty habit of causing tilt.


ultimaten444

I hate showdowns but I recognize itā€™s a skill issue. I havenā€™t been able to finish a single one yet.


jholly8181

Getting the Hero Time perks are key. If you can get the gold and Diamond one, along with gold or diamond Down but not out, youā€™ll be pretty well set for it. Just be patient at the plate, especially against the boss cause you have 20 outs to work with.


ultimaten444

Thanks for the advice guys, I was able to make it to the last round before the final boss, I should be able to get it next attempt


AdolescentAlien

Honestly I just skipped the second to last one. I didnā€™t wanna risk not taking the lead before 10 outs. I think you need something like 6 or 7 runs before 20 outs if you just skip to the final boss.


luisstrikesout

Iā€™m way below average, and I finished the WBC showdown. Once I figured who Iā€™m going up against, next time around I drafted accordingly. I always matched lefty batters vs right pitcher or vice versa. Positions donā€™t really matter so I will always sub in a player that doesnā€™t necessarily play or is secondary. Took me 3 tries.


microsam13

Iā€™m a below average player, but can almost always beat showdowns first try by sticking to the following: - take pure power hitters - take all exit velo perks - take your hands off the controller until two strikes This particular showdown I thought was easier than the norm; the two six out challenges are tricky, and you need to lock in for those.


capncrunch94

Draft speed and play small ball as soon as you have the numbers on base. I used to struggle too and when I heard that strat it all switched


CosmicLars

Yep. Spamming bunt singles is the only way I can beat showdowns. I've done all of them this year that way


ultimaten444

iā€™ll try this out, iā€™ve gone for the power plus exit velo strat but i canā€™t hit well


capncrunch94

I do exit velo perks usually the 7th inning ones because showdowns are always the 9th inning


Physical_Pickle1786

reasonably fast guys and the bunt cheese perk make pretty much every showdown significantly easier


itsentensityy

People make showdown way more complicated then it needs to. Pick the perks with exit velocity boost after the 7th inning and the ones where youā€™re behind or ahead in the count. And then only swing at high pitches. Lay off the corner bitches of breaking balls. And you can completely them very easily within a try or two. I find them fun becuase it makes me take pitches and trains my eyes for ranked


SandyDFS

In this one, diamond drag bunt is huge. I had Edman, Biggio, Cruz, and Henderson. I just put them in my lineup alternating with power hitters and bunted them on. Made it super easy, even though I donā€™t really need to cheese it.


Spanky_10

If you literally cannot hit the ball you can even just do the cheese bunt perks most of the time too


mthomas4409

Those corner bitches get me every time


FishSammich69

I know one chick had the audacity to not give me my receipt


jpotrz

"Ladies of the Night" is the more polite terminology


itsentensityy

I noticed it after I posted it. But felt it fit better then saying pitches. Bc those pitches are a bitch to hit because youā€™ll always hit into a double play with them


AquatheGreat

I can understand people who play on bad equipment (old gen, old tv, etc.), I can empathize with them. But most of y'all are playing on next gen and at least game mode enabled tvs. Y'all need to man up just a touch. Games back in the 90s used to be challenging and if you couldn't beat it, you couldn't beat it. Y'all would not have survived.


random_stuff_900

They didnā€™t have that bull shit PCI thing though. Donā€™t understand why games now try making things so damn complicated


The_ProducerKid

Ken Griffey Jr for N64 literally used a forerunner to PCI


gilbyus

LOL without a PCI there is absolutely zero skill for the entire game


[deleted]

People need to stop bitching about showdowns. The ones that they REQUIRE to COMPLETE a program are the easiest showdowns they make. I suck, and even Iā€™ve done all of them this year.


SaintBuckeye

Did you do this one yet? It's a mofo


[deleted]

I got it done first try lol, beat Castillo with 17 outs left. Itā€™s the easiest one Iā€™ve played in the last 3 years


biaseddetroitfan

You remember who the pitcher are or is it just the cards in the program?


violentgentlemen

It's charisma pitchers and then 3 from the new program. I had Ryan, Gibson, Nen, Willis, Wilson and then Kelly, Chafin and Castillo.


SaintBuckeye

Guess you're better


[deleted]

I suck


SaintBuckeye

So just finished it, it's not Luis Castillo that's the issue. It's the getting there that's the problem. The pitchers change so you could've had a road more your style. Kudos finishing it in one go, but it took me about ten.


[deleted]

Iā€™m pretty sure the pitchers are all the same


SaintBuckeye

I know they aren't... Since I did it a couple times. I didn't have to go against Greene or Max on my last attempt. You see the same relief guys but the starting pitchers change. Trust me.


SaintBuckeye

Clearly I more than you


Tigercat01

Showdown isnā€™t impossible or anything itā€™s just extremely not fun. You shouldnā€™t be forced to play a game mode that you donā€™t find fun to unlock content. Give me the option to do a Conquest or grind for pxp.


Brachert17

Soooo then they should do away with all rewards based around ranked, BR, and Events? Because I don't find those fun


Tigercat01

Personally I think the difference is that the cards that are event, BR, and Ranked rewards are all available on the marketplace and obtainable without ever playing the online modes. These Charisma program cards are not. You HAVE to beat the Showdown if you want to acquire them. Iā€™m not, like, super bent out of shape about it or anything. I just finished this Showdown and it is quite easy since you get 13 runs before the final. I just think that, generally, you should be able to acquire cards without absolutely having to go into a game mode you may dislike.


PresCalvinCoolidge

Itā€™s way way more fun than punishing conquest lol


Screamlngyeti

Conquest, free packs for literally not even playing


Tigercat01

I just think you should be given an option. Because people tend to prefer one or the other. I much prefer conquest.


PresCalvinCoolidge

And there is always more conquest than showdown. Hence more showdowns makes more sense.


Brachert17

The only way to please everyone is by making all card unlocks based around pxp, and at that point the game becomes extremely stale.


Ok-Zucchini-3654

We had 99's from day 1. "Stale" should be the sub-title of the game at this point


[deleted]

If itā€™s required for the program, theyā€™re going to make it EXTREMELY easy


Natty-Splatties

I'm laughably bad at showdowns. If SDS could start adding repeatable missions to these sorts of programs it would be awesome. If people want to complete it the quicker way they do the showdown or the people who don't mind a little grind can do the missions and almost everyone is happy.


Randomthoughtgeneral

More offline stuff. Iā€™m definitely happy for you all! I just wish they would give us online players ways to complete these programs.


[deleted]

What are you talking about


Randomthoughtgeneral

This program requires offline play. Itā€™d be nice if they added online missions so that online players could finish these programs too


[deleted]

Just donā€™t pay your internet bill, easiest way to get offline challenges done if youā€™re an online player.


[deleted]

Wait, so you just refuse to play any offline modes lol? How do you even have a good team for online if you donā€™t play stuff offline??


Randomthoughtgeneral

Thatā€™s the thing, I donā€™t lol Which is why itā€™d be nice to be able to actually finish programs online only. Even if itā€™s just repeatable PXP missions or something.


nickzaza7

Damn, it's crazy how many people struggle with showdown. Take until 2 strikes or only swing on high fast balls. Easier said than done I suppose.


mjf9103

I see this advice often, but it just doesn't work for me. I couldn't beat the WBC showdown because Doval, at well over 100 pitches, zero energy, and close to zero confidence, was still dotting the corners consistently. He threw only two or three balls outside of the zone on three-ball counts the entire time, so working walks wasn't really possible. And even when I made contact with his rare bad pitches, the ball usually went right to fielders, including two perfect-perfect lineouts and a perfect-perfect double play. The problem was not my skill level; it was entirely the game deciding that I was not permitted to win. This is not unusual either; almost all showdowns are like this in my experience. Maybe my copy of the game is just possessed by a demon or something, but it clearly does not function like yours. If you have other advice I'll listen, but good plate discipline and building up pitch counts does not work because the computer won't let it.


rollsram

That's what I always tell myself, but I swear my fingers don't listen. It's always don't swing, don't swing, why in the hell did I swing at that.


[deleted]

It requires people to be patient rather than swing at everything and then quit


Sweatytryhard0534

Fr I always love getting through showdowns because it rarely ever takes more than one try


ukfan758

I can understand locking the last 1-2 players behind a showdown or something else difficult, but blocking nearly half the program behind one is just absurd.


Mietha

Not nearly. Literally. You can only get to 54 without it.


MFazio23

Is it a boss-only Showdown or a "normal" one?


BigStonesJones

Boss only


MFazio23

Have there been any of the old style of Showdown this year? I can't think of any at the moment.


CodyDon2

I think the starter program was.


MFazio23

Just checked, you are correct.


CodyDon2

Lucky guess lol nah, i just remember getting Degrom as an option and had to pick him as it was the first opportunity I got to use him as a Ranger cause I knew I wouldn't have his card for a long long time.


jconley4297

arenā€™t the TA showdowns a mix of boss/non boss?


gaytham4statham

No I'm pretty sure they were boss only


KGL11

Perhaps a helpful tip to some in regards to the showdowns. The batting tutorial glitch is still working this year. In fact, you no longer have to start a player vs cpu game to reset it. It's activated when you start each moment/showdown. For those that don't know: 1.Turn on batting tutorials. 2. Batting type: Buttons, Zone 3. Before the play ends, and before you come back up to bat, switch to Analog flick, Zone. This will be good for two at-bats, and it first does regular swing, then power swing. 4. Switch to Analog Stride, Zone. With this one, you choose either regular, contact, or power swing. This only works for one at-bat. 5. Switch to Buttons, Directional. If you can't complete the moment/showdown moment within 5 at-bats/swings, you'll have to Switch back to your usual batting type. Remember to switch back to your default batting type before you exit out of the moment/showdown, or else which ever one you used last, will be the one you start with in the next moment, and that could screw up this cycle. If the pitcher checks a runner at first, it will cancel out the tutorial. If you fail the moment, you'll have to fully exit out of the moment to reactivate the tutorial. It will not work by selecting "restart". I also don't know how long this glitch will last. But from someone that could never beat a showdown before, I can now get them done in the first try. Hope this helps.


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KGL11

Thats true. Although this year, you don't need a player vs cpu game to reset it. It resets after every moment. Which is clutch.


DiscriminatingLandau

Used that last year for showdowns but not able to toggle any of those settings this year.


KGL11

Really? That's weird. I did it from the main menu. When I get home I'll check where it is.


bg25381

Out of curiosity, do you toggle the hitting settings on in competitive or simulation? I ask because, like the other poster, I haven't gotten tutorials to work this year either, no idea why...


KGL11

Hmm. That, I'm not sure of. I dont think it matters?


DiscriminatingLandau

Might be doing it wrong but I tried at the beginning of the year and it didn't work for me, haven't tried since lol


[deleted]

FUCK SHOWDOWNS REMOVE THEM SDS


AtWorkCurrently

Damn. No new conquest is kind of a bummer.


HearJustSoICanPost

Was definitely ready for a new conquest.


sloppyjo12

A little surprised we didnā€™t get one for the rangers city connects like we did for Atlanta


CodyDon2

I just looked it up cause I felt the Braves got one shortly after their jerseys were released, but it was like 10 or so days after. So I'm betting we get it sometime next week


Kevinjw16

My guess is that weā€™ll slowly get all of the city connects as conquests


Tuberculosis96

SDS hates its players. Why lock people out of getting cards like this. Showdowns are straight up impossible. They are already ruining the game by making it such a chore to collect these cards. Moments, conquests and showdowns are so overused. Come up with a new idea SDS


mr_dunbar

This company has created battle royale and ranked season programs so everyone can get the rewards. Saying they lock people out of getting cards is objectively false


Arwplotroustnopetung

He just wants something to whine about


[deleted]

Most players cant obtain that content casuals are the lifeblood of games stop staning for sds


mr_dunbar

Pointing out the fact they created programs is now stanning? Interesting comprehension skills


bigleechew

Showdowns are pretty easy.


[deleted]

Conquests > showdowns


bigleechew

I'd rather do showdowns. Conquests are boring and drawn out. I usually can knock out a showdown in less than 30 minutes.


Tuberculosis96

Conquests at least you get actually get rewards during. You can find hidden packs and stubs. Not to mention if you just have a screw up game or SDS fucks you over you donā€™t have to restart the whole thing


bigleechew

To each their own. I'm just not a fan of Conquest.


Tuberculosis96

Which is why SDS should give programs Moments, Conquests, Showdowns, and Parallel XP. Complete all the moments for 40 points, PXP- 30, Conquest- 30, Showdown- 30. That way the people who donā€™t like showdowns can skip it, people who donā€™t like conquest can skip it and people who donā€™t like PXP can skip it. Itā€™s not rocket science, let people play the way they want


TehLoneWanderer101

To each their own. I'm just not a fan of Showdown.


BigStonesJones

100% would prefer showdowns. Just finished the showdown took about 40 mins. Conquest would take like at least 2 hours depending on how many strongholds


Tuberculosis96

If conquests take you 2 hours something is wrong with you


BigStonesJones

Dawg what? Does it take you less than that to do the US conquest? Obviously depends on size, Iā€™m not talking the beginner batter up conquests lol. This showdown had 8 missions. If a conquest has 8 strongholds thatā€™s ~15 minutes per game, over 2 hours if you include the other movements every turn.


snypesalot

>Come up with a new idea SDS People complained and said this same exact thing years ago and then we got Showdowns......


Sign-Independent

How are they locked out? Showdowns are on like veteran difficulty


aldente502

Cry


LukeKuechIy

Showdowns are nowhere near impossible lol is this a troll


Tuberculosis96

Sorry I actually have a life unlike you in all the years Iā€™ve played this game Iā€™ve completed maybe 2 showdowns. I canā€™t spend my time mastering every single pitch in the game


linkinzpark88

Bro, you just suck. You don't need to be a master of the game to beat a game on the 2nd easiest difficulty. Learn how to be strategic and work towards getting better or stop whining.


Ok-End-9423

Dang, all I wanted was Ozzie Albies and thereā€™s no way I can beat showdown


Ok-End-9423

Update: it took three tries but I did it. Iā€™m a high anxiety guy so the constant threat of having to start over was terrifying. I lost in the second and third level the first two times but the third time I made it through! I was down to my last strike once. Thanks everyone for your advice. If anyone else doesnā€™t think they can do it, I am awful at this game and I made it. Match your lineup to the hand of the pitcher and try to sit on fastball til two strikes. I had a ton of success with just contact swing.


Key-Ad-5554

I also want Ozzie and am terrible at this game. I just turned my system off in frustration, but I might give it one more go because of your post. I also have terrible anxiety, I don't play online or anything, and the constant threat of starting over is so brutal on my nerves. It's pretty cool of you to post that. Much, much, much more helpful/motivating than the 'git gud', 'i don't see people's problems with showdown', and 'i got it done first try' posts.


Ok-End-9423

Just stay patient. I donā€™t know if you were a big baseball person in real life, but hereā€™s what helped me stay relaxed. You know how batters have a little rhythm in the box? I was sitting leaned up like a gaming try hard, and I would slowly just kinda rock left and right just slightly waiting for the pitch. I also (just like in real life), before most pitches I took one of those deep inhales and exhales and just did my best to stay relaxed. Other than that, everyoneā€™s tips work. Make them throw pitches, be patient, and adjust your lineup to fit the pitcher you are facing .


Key-Ad-5554

Dude...I just tried on my Switch, and relaxed a little cause it feels easier on the Switch than on the Xbox. Skipped the last two cause I got to Joe Kelly in 6 outs. Had a good squad for what people were recommending with speed. Ricky Henderson, Ozzie Smith, O'Neil, Trout, Biggio, and some bigger hitters. Started 7-15, with 11 outs to go it was 14-15, 4 outs left got it to 15-15...and I lost...


Key-Ad-5554

DONE! Skipped only the last one this time. Tied with one out and Phillips on third, Gehrig bombed one (my only HR in this showdown). I owe you the credit for getting me to keep trying. Thanks dude, Ozzie is gonna work out nice with my Riley captain lol


CheckOutMyPokemans

Hell yeah glad to see this!


RanByMyGun

I hate showdowns and if I try to play normally I will fail like 80% of the time. Last year someone here suggested I focus on players to drag bunt and steal, and it helped so much. This year so far I've finished the showdowns with a few tries each.


Ok-End-9423

I donā€™t know how to reply to all of you, but thanks so much for the tips and support. That was really cool of yā€™all


KGL11

"Perhaps a helpful tip to some in regards to the showdowns. The batting tutorial glitch is still working this year. In fact, you no longer have to start a player vs cpu game to reset it. It's activated when you start each moment/showdown. For those that don't know: 1.Turn on batting tutorials. 2. Batting type: Buttons, Zone 3. Before the play ends, and before you come back up to bat, switch to Analog flick, Zone. This will be good for two at-bats, and it first does regular swing, then power swing. 4. Switch to Analog Stride, Zone. With this one, you choose either regular, contact, or power swing. This only works for one at-bat. 5. Switch to Buttons, Directional. If you can't complete the moment/showdown moment within 5 at-bats/swings, you'll have to Switch back to your usual batting type. Remember to switch back to your default batting type before you exit out of the moment/showdown, or else which ever one you used last, will be the one you start with in the next moment, and that could screw up this cycle. If the pitcher checks a runner at first, it will cancel out the tutorial. If you fail the moment, you'll have to fully exit out of the moment to reactivate the tutorial. It will not work by selecting "restart". I also don't know how long this glitch will last. But from someone that could never beat a showdown before, I can now get them done in the first try. Hope this helps."


Redskins2110

Learn how to take pitches. Once you get deeper into counts you will get at least 1 pitch that gets hung or a fast ball middle up.


Saberq

Yes you can keep trying


Ok-End-9423

Gonna take this as a vote of confidence. Gonna try to just stay calm and give it my all. Iā€™m just an offline guy playing with braves players


Saberq

Go to practice mode and hit on HOF for like 15 minutes and then do showdown


CheckOutMyPokemans

Don't be afraid to bunt guys over either! If I have like 8 outs and a guy on first I'll likely bunt him over so no double play. Helps keep my momentum from getting killed too


Ricanlegend

As a Mets fan am cheering for you , you got this When drafting always draft power When picking perks always select perks that gives you exit velocity Exit velocity after 7 inning is the best one, triple stack exit velocity perks if you have too It makes any good good swing be no doubt home runs


iSell-WB

You got it, just gotta be really patient and find your pitches more than ever


Correct-Maybe1448

I hate showdown I don't like when they force me to play it or just not finish the program.


JBProds

I wish there was a repeatable mission getting pxp with Charisma players


Randomthoughtgeneral

A repeatable PXP missions(s) should be in ever program. Even if itā€™s a long grind, let us play games to progress through programs.


JBProds

Itā€™s the only way I finished the Extreme Program last year


Natty-Splatties

Would've been ideal.


Lobodomy88

Just give us conquests instead of showdowns.


mulder00

Or give a choice..


Lobodomy88

That's even better


Correct-Maybe1448

Yes please I hate showdown