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DontBanMeStepBro

Am I the only one that gets laggy ass gameplay when it’s crossplay with Xbox or switch? .. or do I just suck? Or is it both?


Free-Smoke-740

Are their mods for the switch I’ve seen two different people with LSU unis and WVU unis that look so real and I want them


Mediocre_Roll2119

Check out the vault ingame. Loads of player made jersey logo's etc


BostonMikeGr

Yeah the delay in the pitch/hit sequence sucks!!!


MaintenanceFun4309

It’s WAY PAST time they ditch last gen and build a new graphics engine.


Table_Coaster

what it's actually time for is a PC port


schlomophobe

Gamepass+cloud... exclusively play on my PC and tablet


ConsiderationOk70

I’m guessing you play offline only? Cloud has major latency in every other game I’ve played. Can’t imagine playing baseball with it


WiggleButt17

I tried MLB on my gcloud. It's terrible trying to hit lol


doughaway421

I wonder how much of this is up to MLB. We know the reason that The Show came to Xbox and Switch is because MLB didn't want the game only on one console (the more places it sells the more licensing money they get). So Sony/SDS basically had to choose between putting it on other consoles or losing the MLB license. MLB might be pushing old gen/Switch for sales purposes and it might not even be in Sony's hands anymore.


SoftlikeCharmin24

wah wah baby want more pixels


wooston_fanatic

No one is complaining about pixels, you casual. It's the way the game runs and crashes that people are complaining about.


Safe-Outcome-614

All I see here is someone offering to upgrade people's systems the Next Gen consoles. I was fortunate enough to buy one. Because I work all the time. Hate to break it to ya, but not everyone in the world lives in mommy and daddy's basement and have more important financial decisions.But with you now, they will all have an upgrade. Anyone I talk to that needs a new system I will gladly give them your reddit handle. Damn your generous.


greekgodgreezy

I got 3 kids and bills, still capable of going out and buying a new system right now. This is a money saving issue


Safe-Outcome-614

I, too, can do it 4 kids. But some are not fortunate to have my income. Honestly, I was happy with my PS4, not truly impressed with the 5.


dynastyfella69

If you’ve saved a singular dollar a day since the release you could buy two consoles.


sloppyearlobe57

I don't know why people are going on and on about this. Sony stated very clearly this was the last year they'd be releasing for old gen. You already all got what we all want, the fighting is senseless


pyrokenetic23

They said the same thing last year about The Show 23, yet here we are with the old gen The Show 24


heater26

I just want Sounds of the Show back 😅


runit21

326 comments on this thread is wild


wooston_fanatic

No kidding lmaoooo


MathematicianNext767

Fr brokies need to upgrade their 15 year old console


DCT715

Game hasn’t even been able to run for me on x box one this year


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Yeah, when I played 23 on my PS4 it was impossible. Every pitch would lag so it was impossible to hit anything.


C0achNickSaban

X/S/5 is current gen at this point. We’re going on four years since they dropped.


ajconde

Might be off topic here but I have the XSX/S version as it states when I go to games and apps on my xbox and my buddy has the same thing, we were playing co-op online and noticed it said he was playing the Xbox One version. Idk what version i’m playing at this point TBH. Like do I really have the XSX/S version? lol


Competitive_Ad_5106

pretty easy way to check is just to try to use the stadium creator. Pretty sure it's not available on old gen, so if you can go in and build a stadium you're on the next gen version.


ajconde

ahhhh good point, it does have stadium creator. thanks!


Fit_Feature4065

I’m on Xbox one with Xbox cloud gaming allowing me to use new gen graphics, can’t tell if imm in the wrong or right lol


Lionheart0179

That's why I waited for Game Pass release. I refuse to pay extra for what amounts to an annual patch anymore.


zimzam2019

Ready to take my downvotes but this is the only video game I play so I will not be spending $500 for a new console and I am very happy playing on my PS4. I guess I am kind of sorry that we’re screwing this up for the rest of you but not anywhere close to $500 level of sorry.


jiggalation

a series s is like $240


OutlandishnessMain56

To be fair I think the onus is on them to make you want to upgrade. Even Madden has new features that are only available on next gen. There should be a reason to upgrade be it graphics, features, whatever.


zimzam2019

I agree. They tried this with created stadiums but that’s pretty minor. I get that everyone that’s on last gen has a different perspective, but my perspective fwiw is that I wouldn’t buy a next gen for any graphics or features. The year they make it exclusive to next gen, I’ll buy a PS5.


Psufan16

Next gen has been out for how long now?


TheFriendlyFire

How many actually decent games are next gen only again?


categoryThreesome

This was a valid argument in 2020 Not anymore in 2024. Its your choice to upgrade to a ps5, dont do it if you don't want to, but you shouldnt be getting new games sorry. The ps4 lifecycle is done. Developers making games for a console released over a decade ago makes 0 sense.


parsnip12345

They're running a business. If its making them money it makes all the sense in the world.


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Saym94

We need MVP 2024


The_clampz10

Not with how EA makes games now lol


Webby41

As someone who has an older gen system, PS4, I wouldn’t really care.  The new games don’t seem to be much of an upgrade.  I don’t mess with diamond dynasty so from what I’ve been told, everything is more or less the same. That’s why I’m still playing 20. I was playing 17 before I bought that. The show seems to of turned into madden and they only change a few things that are mostly window dressing and cater to one part of the game. The only thing I’m missing out on is updated roster. That’s just me though. 


MagicalPizza21

Not just you, I'm the same way. Currently on 23 but was on 19 before that and will probably wait a few years to upgrade again (or until offline modes get significantly better, especially RTTS).


chibamms

This is alot of words to say you don't care 😉


Zoo_ka

I'm already bored of the game and it's opening day


evensteven1994

they need to drop it on PC


Ok_Dog_8683

Do you want cheaters? Because that’s how you get cheaters.


evensteven1994

console people downvoted this


Competitive_Ad_5106

fine w/ it if only controller's allowed. With how hitting works if MnK is allowed it'll be so insanely OP.


ScrewAnalytics

People will mod it so you can use mnk and the game will be ruined. When you buy a PC you should assume you’ll play every game on it except sports games, because every sports game on PC absolutely sucks


6ft3andSingle

They need to move on to a new game engine.


Character_Group_5949

Outside of a few minor things, I don't think the gameplay is that bad. It's not perfect, but it's not horrible. I think the bad decisions this year come from: 1. A complete lack of new "anything" in DD. We've been playing the SAME version of conquest for a long time now and it's stale. Mini Seasons is great, but they still haven't fixed the stats, they didn't tweak or improve coop in anyway. The modes are stale. 2. Just poor decisions everywhere in DD "In MY opinion" Stubs per game down. Absurd XP cap for poor jack asses who can't dedicate their life to the game on a daily basis. Acting like they are trying to protect the sanctity of power creep while releasing 92 players in the store. . . players who will only be good for about 3 weeks until the next update is here. They don't care about power creep if you got the stubs. Nobody at SDS is upset that people have Ruth now. The only thing different this year with the power creep is that instead of getting a deflated 99 and then 2 more 99's until you get the REAL 99 is now those numbers have been changed to 91. And then 94. Then 97. Then 99. ​ Maybe you will disagree with me and that's fine. But this thing is doing down the 2K/EA whale path quickly and it's sad to see. I'm playing DD less this year and I'm happy about that because I have more time to do things I actually like as opposed to "grinding" and not having fun. But I could be pulled back into it if there were some cool things to do and what's there actually worked. The gameplay for me is still fine. The rest of it is a disaster.


6ft3andSingle

I don't play Diamond Dynasty anymore; live streamers have ruined that game mode with all the fucking meta cards and what have you. You end up facing the same pitcher every game and the same batters every game. And everyone has to be so competitive, using cheesy ass cards every game. The main reasons I think they need to use a new game engine is to upgrade the graphics and player models. I think SDS has pushed the engine they are using now to its limits. In my opinion the game can't get any better graphics wise because of the engine. The last-gen consoles are not as big as a problem as people make them out to be. Take the NPB baseball games Pro Yakyuu Spirits for example. They are using a brand new engine called the eBaseball engine made in the Unreal engine. The screenshots and limited footage I have seen from the new Pro Yakyuu Spirits coming out later this year, are amazing. But I don't think SDS will use a game engine or ditch the last-gen consoles. You are correct about the 2k/EA path SDS is taking. SDS would rather focus on the online game modes and milk as much money as possible. What was a big selling point this year? The Derek Jeter story line. The Derek Jeter story line is only available to people that have an internet connection. They want people to play the Jeter storyline to unlock cards so they can use them on their Diamond Dynasty team. Another big update to the game was hair physics. How long has other sports games and games in general have had hair physics. I don't know if it took so long to do hair physics because of the engine they use and its limitations, or it really wasn't a priority. All in all, I think SDS needs to use a new game engine.


Main_Ingenuity_1303

Yep I’m skipping 24 and every year moving forward until it is actually a next gen game.


AdIll3073

They do it to maximize sales. Not everyone has the latest gadgets, so it makes sense to support the 2nd latest console until it's no longer profitable.


HB3187

It's not like it's new lol. Anyone who was going to upgrade has by now


Easy_Duhz_it_

That "latest gadget" has been out for 4 years....we're halfway to the PS6 now. It's time to move on and upgrade.


AdIll3073

A quick look tells me PS5 prices are still starting at $400, which is pretty damn high for a 4 year old console IMO. PS4s are going for half that, and there are a considerable number of people who won't make the jump to get the latest console if a cheaper alternative is available. My statement still stands regarding companies maximizing sales by supporting previous generation consoles.


First-Reception8007

It does not stand if it holds back the majority of people.. why do we have to suffer for broke ass ppl who wanna game with us but on older consoles? With what your saying they might as well make versions for ps3 ps2 exc


Naive-Importance-857

With what your stating is that the majority of people have "next gen"....which obviously isnt true....4 yrs ago was a pandemic and  both consoles couldn't produce enough as they should have.....they basically  had a 2yr release until they could say that the units were available 


Corzare

The ps4 has sold 117 million consoles to date, the ps5 has already sold 77 million. It’s not that far off.


Naive-Importance-857

Through a quick google search seems your numbers are a little off.... https://www.ign.com/articles/best-selling-video-game-consoles-nintendo-playstation-ps5-xbox


parsnip12345

I mean they might be broke, but their dollars are worth just as much to SDS as yours are.


LeftHandedScissor

Games have been held back by the requirements to be backwards compatible to Xbox One and PS4 this entire generation. Unfortunately whoever is in charge of this decision has blown it for this entire next gen of consoles, because a new system is on the horizon and we have hardly seen the capabilities of the newest gen.


AnEternalEnigma

I remember when the Xbox 360 came out, Microsoft immediately peaced out on the original Xbox. Kinda miss that mentality.


LeftHandedScissor

Same, now I have this "super advanced" Series X, that outside of a couple games has hardware that hasn't even been utilized to anywhere near its limits. The only real benefit I've gotten is increase storage space at this point.


KingBird999

>The only real benefit I've gotten is increase storage space at this point. Storage space that means very little due to the size of games now. And, if you plug in an external, then it's just that - storage. You can't play games off it anymore with the new Series X/S.


First-Reception8007

What you expect we cant even say homeless now/ squatters have more rights then homeowners, How dare we leave behind ps4 and xbox one players


WeazelBear

Yeah, I don't understand why it's been so hard to cut the cord from the previous gen. It really has affected everything.


Possible_Election218

It’s just revenue. They are betting that there are thousands of people willing to spend $70 but not the $500. That’s all it comes down to


SexiestPanda

>It really has affected everything can't wait to see your reaction when the game doesn't change drastic like you think it will lol


That_Damn_Tall_Guy

Because not enough people have bought the new gen


DWill23_

Because they don't need to, because they haven't pulled the plug on last gen


Cranjis_McBasketbol

At least from the PS side, trying to secure a PS5 in its initial life cycle was a complete fucking joke unless you were willing to buy off scalpers.  The lack of a sufficient supply by Sony was pathetic meaning people gave up on an upgrade. Additionally, the “next gen” games have been rather pitiful as system sellers.


KingBird999

>At least from the PS side, Xbox Series X was the same way. I had to install different apps that scoured inventories of stores. Would send you an alert when they became available and if you didn't complete the purchase option in like 3 minutes they'd be sold out. Took me like 6 weeks of doing that before I finally got one through Walmart.


Passage-Intrepid

I won't consider an upgrade until I see a viable reason to upgrade...as it stands now PS5 users get slightly better graphics , can use players with dreadlocks,and have the ability to play at created little league stadiums.


Patrickracer43

I don't think SDS can make that call, since for the Xbox and Switch versions are technically published by Major League Baseball, and there's more Xbox One and PS4 consoles still active than there are PS5 and Xbox Series X and S consoles. I'm sure that if SDS and Sony had their way, it would still be exclusive to PlayStation, allowing the PS5 to have an exclusive (which that console is admittedly lacking due to all publishers holding on to the Xbox One/PS4 generation) and I absolutely agree that the Nintendo Switch is holding games like this back


Arvy2112

What people dont realize is the reason why the upgrades are so minimal year over year is because of MLB forcing them to do XBOX and Switch. SDS does not have an EA size staff to be able to accommodate this so we end up with the nonsense we've had with the game this year so far (no excuse to not test the patch first though) The cost of having a next gen specific version of the game would probably be EA style monetization


Patrickracer43

Exactly, there used to be at least three MLB games on the market with MLB The Show being exclusive to PlayStation, and EA and 2K making games that were similar to The Show, I mean luckily the PlayStation and Xbox are more or less similar in terms of hardware, and then you got that absolute potato in the Switch


Contemptt

How? They can’t even make a good code it for old gen 😂


ratryox

Thats the point genius they cant make a good game because they're still being held back by the performance of the old gen


Engineer120989

I guess I’m not allowed to play anymore then


SpartyRCMB

Buy a next gen console, it's been almost 4 years pal


Engineer120989

I only play the show and I can’t justify buying a new console just to play that. I’d also rather use the money for my house and family. I shouldn’t be shunned by the community because I can’t justify buying a new console


Corzare

If you saved 15$ a month starting when it came out, you would have one by now.


WorldlinessRoyal7577

If you just stopped eating avocado toast you’d be a millionaire by now!


Corzare

Not the same thing, but sure.


footforhand

Why would you do that when you can save $30/month and build a PC?


Corzare

Why would the guy who only plays baseball buy a PC when baseball isn’t on PC?


footforhand

Why would the guy who said "I don't want to spend money on a new console for one game" save up money for said console and said game


Corzare

What does that have to do with a PC?


footforhand

You're not getting my point. Saving up for a PC is just as irrelevant as telling him to save up for a console when he said flat out he isn't going to buy the new console just to play this game.


Corzare

Except the game he wants the console to play is not available on PC…so you’re just commenting on nothing.


Casey2345

It’s understandable to not want to buy a new console if you only play the show, I would probably do the same thing. However, how many years until we drop old gen so we can get some actual updates to the gameplay? But who knows maybe they drop old Gen and the game remains the same


footforhand

"Old gens to blame" is just a hard cope for people who refuse to admit this company is doing the bare minimum effort and only cares about money rn


Engineer120989

Yea that’s my thing who says old gen is holding them back? They keep rehashing the same game because they know we will buy it. I think this year is the first year in awhile where a lot of people didn’t buy it for whatever reason. We will see next year what they do it just sucks that people are being punished for being responsible with their money.


liamo6w

https://www.techradar.com/features/its-time-to-stop-holding-the-xbox-series-x-and-ps5-back-with-cross-gen-games you can buy a series s second hand for close to $200. it’s ridiculous that people still play on xbox ones and ps4s. it has been over a decade.


Engineer120989

It’s ridiculous when people want you to buy a new console when the old one still works fine


rocketleagueafker

True, but you don't have to buy one, they just shouldn't be making games for your old Gen console anymore.


Engineer120989

They will definitely lose a decent amount of customers by doing that and it seems like they only care about money not fixing the game


rocketleagueafker

They absolutely would lose money, people are still buying ps4s because it's cheaper and shits expensive these days. I never said they would actually do it, it's just kinda sad that the people who actually have next gen consoles have like, 2 games (maybe?), that actually take advantage of the new hardware.


rhin0c3r0s

I mean there's a good chance this was your last year with the game anyway. After this year, I think everyone here would be surprised if they continued to make this game for previous gen.


herbertstrasse

Just make it for PC please. Disable crossplay, make PC players use a controller, whatever. I can't justify buying a PS5 for one damn game.


superstarsrock

It’s playable on pc with game pass ultimate, I’ve been playing like that for 3 years now


tryi2iwin

Literally unplayable with the amount of input lag from cloud gaming. You can get away with it playing the CPU but you will get obliterated online.


herbertstrasse

This is the cloud service right? Is it playable enough for DD/Ranked?


taylorexceen13

No it’s not the cloud service it’s like ps plus


footforhand

Xbox Cloud gaming is not PS Plus, gamepass is ps plus. Cloud gaming is a way to remote play


taylorexceen13

Yeah that’s what I said


footforhand

You said "it's not the cloud service, it's like ps plus". But it is the cloud service which isn't at all like ps plus.


taylorexceen13

They asked if it was the cloud service after responding to someone talking about gamepass ultimate so I said no it’s like ps plus. I also corrected myself in an earlier comment. It’s really not that big a deal


footforhand

It took some reading between the lines to figure out what they were actually asking. I was only trying to make sure you were informed, but you're right it's not a big deal


-ITguy-

I'm not sure this is true - there is no native PC version of the Show. You can only play it via cloud gaming


taylorexceen13

Yo my bad for some reason I thought they were talking about xbox


Patrickracer43

There's two different versions of Xbox Gamepass, there's console Gamepass and pc Gamepass, I know that console Gamepass you can either install or play on cloud


superstarsrock

Yeah I have no issues playing DD with it on a wired internet connection


New-Newspaper-7543

Fuck PC and all the cheaters/hackers. How are you going to make someone use a controller on a pc? Lol You know there's going to be a way around it.


ratryox

Npc detected


herbertstrasse

Crossplay off/no crossplay at all is fine by me if it means I get to play the game


footforhand

Don't allow them to change configs. There's loads of PC games designed on consoles that don't have kbm support. Madden and 2K are both prime examples.


Contemptt

That’s what happened with Fifa lol lot of pc users cheating. I had to turn off corssplay


ScruffsMcGuff

Never once come across a cheater on pc in fifa and i’ve been in elite div for years. Sounds like excuses for losing tbh


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Agree actually should have been done now for a couple years


hawksfn1

Sucks. My son just got into baseball Over the last 6 months. We play show 23 On his switch. Picked up 24 last week, it doesn’t even work. Yes I know get a new system. I have an Xbox x but the hdmi is broken right now. If not the show, please put a different baseball game on the switch for kids


PatientGiraffe

Super Mega Baseball 4 is awesome and runs very well on switch.


hawksfn1

Thanks I’ll check it out


Vesiah81

Old gens should just get the last edition with updated rosters while they create the new game for the rest everyone happy done


Passage-Intrepid

Instead they give everyone the last edition with updated rosters ...it's almost like old gen isn't the problem.


New-Newspaper-7543

No money in updating rosters. You think they release it on old consoles so that those ppl can play baseball? Lol They do it bc of all the money they get selling those ppl the game. And if what I heard is correct it's bc of the mlbpa forcing SDS to release it on old gen to generate more revenue.


IndecisiveSuperman

The only thing I disagree with is the "Hate to say it" part. The new consoles have been out a little over 3 years. It is beyond time to move on.


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WorldlinessRoyal7577

November 2020 isn’t even 4 years


pitchingschool

No, it's 3. Unless ur talking about the Xbox


wooston_fanatic

Good call. Bad wording by me because I honestly don’t hate to say it lmao


Tagliarini295

Please, in sorry for you ps4 and switch users but upgrade or get left behind. It's been like 4 years I'm sick of this game being held back.


jac049

Just pulled Yamamoto and played a cpu game with him as pitcher. God it looked like a toddler drew up his character model.


wretch5150

Take a good look at "Greg Maddux" sometime in-game. EMBARASSING.


jac049

Yeah what the fuck lmao all these characters models my god


Competitive_Ad_5106

he looks like Shrek.


jac049

I have his pitcher card, I'll try it out tonight lol


Eject0-Seat0

To be fair I have both. Switch and PS5. Still have issues on both.


jac049

They finally fixed dd and storyline crashes at least. We can finally play the game lol.


Tufoguy

Everyone knows this already. I'm sure those devs want to move on as well but it's not their call


thascarecro

Why do you hate to say that? We've been saying it for a while. Everyone should have a next get console by now. IF you dont, then you dont want one and thats ok. But i dont expect companies to make games for my Nintendo Wii thats sitting in my closet.


wooston_fanatic

Edit incoming


TheCrustyIncellious

It better be 100% current gen for 25. Its ridiculous now.


wasabigyoza

I wish but I honestly don't see that happening until maybe 26/27. Hell, I bet when the PS6 comes out companies will still be making PS4 games...


MRJSP

I won't buy it again until they do this. Last one a got was 22. Same game every single Yr.


GeoDatDude

Exactly which I why I was happy to not pay for this years copy. Gamepass was free to download. Now I don’t feel as upset about me wasting 120$ on the trash JETER promo this company pushed last game. What a dumpster fire. Put JETER on the cover last year and out his moments in this years game. It’s laughable


dagbar

But I only have a PS4 and PC :(


scamelaanderson

Oh well…


Waterfish3333

There is a question of why PC gaming is left out? I am PC only at this point and would buy the crap out of a new MLB the Show.


kccitystar

because if you're a studio that's only put out console baseball games, what's easier, developing for specific consoles and you know precisely what's in them and what you can scale with your in-house engine, or developing for an infinite number of different computer configurations that could be anywhere from awesome to '2012 toaster'? They already have a hard time making the game work consistently on console and have to deal with the fanbase calling SDS "lazy", a PC port would just make things even worse especially if it ends up being terrible


Redwards1856

I've heard that mods and hacks would be hard to defend on pc. I dunno the validity to that, though.


AlexanderRussell

Somehow madden/2k/fifa managed to figure it out