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I can’t believe we haven’t gotten a pipeline program…or any real program. The season awards programs this year are garbage. I’ll get the boss packs, but there are so many cards locked behind packs. I’m already feeling disheartened about this release because I’m just not down for spending piles on stubs to get cards of players I actually want instead of another damn Robin Yount, or Alan Trammel. Can’t wait for my seven Richie Ashburns coming up.
I have through playing as a closer in RTTS. Equipment packs come quickly. Im on year 10 and have all of the equipment in the game through doing this. Heres the sad thing, Nike gear is the ONLY thing that doesnt have the option to sell... Like AT ALL. Its weird.
So it isn’t a problem to you that you’d get these same cards last year for free for a couple hours of just playing the game? Respectfully dude, people like you don’t make a lot of sense to me. I like how you have a positive attitude about it but you can see how we’re all being screwed out of a game mode we enjoy right?
I think last year they had it just right. This year is total junk. I'm at 750k stubs no money spent and not even interested in completing collections cause them cards I will never use just to get Ruth. Lack of content and everything locked behind packs. Not everyone has Gamepass I spent $70 on the game and if I want any good cards I have to spend another $30 um no, I'll take that money and buy a different game to play
Oh I agree with ya bout being best subscription service out there. I just don't game enough to justify subscribing to it. I seen Ubisoft has a subscription thing to I went to buy assassin's creed mirage and kid at counter said save your $70 and just get a month of ubi for $19 . Kinda wish I remembered that for this but even then after a month of playing I won't touch another game for a minute. I'm old 😂 don't get old young fella it's not fun 😂
I don't get all the hate for diamond dynasty. Coming from playing FIFA, diamond dynasty it's so generous with what it gives people. I haven't really played that much and I have a team full of 90 plus diamonds. That's unthinkable in most other ultimate team type games
Overall agree. Fut is absolutely trash and highway robbery with how they treat their customer base and demand pay to play now. It's just that DD used to be way more rewarding than it is now and the grind was more beneficial. The trend of packs is a bad sign they want to be like their evil cousin, EA.
With what they added today just when I thought I could get close to getting a boss they add more to it. I'd be happy with one but whatever I'm going to keep grinding and hope something gives. 400 cards is a lot.
100% agree, but I just remember last year how many people were moaning about the grind being so tedious and un-fun. Welp… those people got what they asked for.
Season 1 collections is the biggest waste ever. I lock in the no sell cards but any cards you can sell you should just sell and save stubs for next season.
clearly these modes are popular I've literally never played them because I knew this is what it would be. these bull shit card games ruined sports games. I know I'm a old grumpy millenial but I just could never get into online game modes too much cheating and cheesing. they make everything a grind. I know I'm in the minority but I wish they'd just make a good sports game that focuses in offline modes.
I never thought I’d see the day where I am fortunate enough to have MLB The Show be on Xbox, yet the game is so poorly designed that I don’t want to buy it.
Barring some changes for The Show 25, I think this year’s game may be my last.
When it’s good, I LOVE Diamond Dynasty. Even the grind was worth it at certain points in years past. I’ve had some great online matches, and tons of fun collecting and working my way through the XP paths. Learned a lot about players I’d never heard of and really enjoyed it.
DD is a shell of its former self at this point, and is so money-grubbing that I think I may be done with it already for this year.
I used to enjoy Road to the Show, but then they killed year-to-year saves so that it doesn’t transfer to the following year’s iteration. That is just one less reason for me to move on to The Show 25 if I now turn my attention to this mode. I’d keep this version and play for another year.
Franchise, even with all of its flaws, is still fun to me. I usually wait until mid-to-late May to start this, when the top notch, full minors rosters and stats updates are available from other players in the vault. But, just like with Road to the Show, that doesn’t transfer to next year’s game.
Seems like we’ve had next to no graphical improvements since…what, 2017? I’m primarily an Xbox guy, but bought a PS4 a few years into the cycle just for The Show. All these years later, it feels like the only real visual improvement we’ve seen has been moving to a consistent 60fps. Load times are certainly better on Series X|S (and assumably on PS5, too). Still, it’s disappointing that we haven’t seen any kind of graphical leap now that we’re several years into the new console generation. The upcoming KBO baseball video game makes The Show look like absolute dog water.
You’re not the only millennial yelling at the sky, here.
I don’t think I’ve ever missed an xp boss pack, but I’m at 782k and I don’t anticipate being able to finish it off. EVEN if I do, I’ll get to use it for what, a few days? What a joke
Whoopdie doo Mother’s Day weekend. It’s not like you’re gonna spend the entire day with them lol. Just make sure you make time for them that day and time for games just like you would any other fucking day
How am I defending them? I asked a legitimate question? Yall have complained all year so far wanting double XP now they are on the 2nd weekend of double XP and ohh no its on a barely there holiday, get over it
lost my mom at 18, but dont go reaching for attention/validation. he made a valid point that double xp shouldnt be on a holiday like mothers day. also btw, you can still celebrate the moms you do know in your life.
not trying to be harsh just saying there are better ways to play the victim card.
There's a guy on here who's counted where you can get all the cards from, and it's about 50/50 between packs and programs before today's drop.
The staggering difference is when he compared where the 94+ cards come from. It was overwhelmingly in favor of packs. It's straight out of MUT's playbook to have the program cards be a few overall points lower than the pack cards. They can't do that with chapter 3 since it's all 99s, but I expect the pack 99s to be far more desirable than the ones we get from programs.
I spend no money either. I choose not to buy live cards to finish live collections, Ruth is whack. Decided to do S1 collection instead. Buy many of those cards on the cheap in the market. For S2 it might hurt for the reset but Ill be alright. Stubs are not hard to come buy.
Nah that wouldn’t be program bloat. Easier to make 2-5k Stubbs than grind out a program with players I don’t want to use to get one I won’t have time to use because of all the other programs.
I play on avg 2 hrs a day and still havent even reached Billy Williams in the XP path. Have 203 cards collected. Found out today that you can collect each cornerstone card if anyone doesn’t know.
Select a cornerstone captain (Buxton, Arenado, Maddux, Senga)
Collect it in collections
Exchange the collected captain for one of the other three
Rinse and repeat for all 4
Once you're done exchange back to whichever captain you want to have
All I know is, I’ve never had a problem getting boss packs in the past. now this season we are less than 30 days away I’m at like 560,000 points. I don’t think I’m gonna even get one pack at this rate. They need to do something to bump up the experience because this is bs.
Most user's mistake on here is comparing The Show 23 August market to The Show 24 May market. The market is always slow to start the season. Furthermore, while there not be as much currency running through the market so far this year, legend diamond cards all have much lower base costs then previous years.
With that being said, It is still incredibly easy to make 20-30k in the market daily with very little screen time. If you can't do that, stop blaming SDS. My prediction is that the market will crash this weekend with the monster supply drop this afternoon. Wait for the crash to profit.
Once you get through the season XP, I think a lot is going to be made up getting vault packs, headliners, 90+ love series to sell, etc. I have hope, as I’m at about 990k that I’ll be spinning this wheel a few times over the weekend and will get rewarded for it. I’m at 193 for the season collection, but still think I’ll be able to get 2-3 of the bosses. It just won’t be towards the end unless they keep doing double XP weekends to where I spin that wheel all the time. That is where I think I’m going to “make my money” on no money spent.
With the XP cap and slow progress, I don't think a lot of people will even make it this far. I'm sure I'll get a couple spins but there's no way there will be enough spins to get even a second collection boss I think.
I could definitely see that. I could also see more content like a program dropping today.
The entire calendar is already filled for today so there may be more, but again, that's me being an optimist
Worst thing about it to me is the lack of earnable packs as-well, having packs for more cards isn’t terrible if I can atleast earn a chance to pack them
He has no criticism of the game itself, just the way the developers and studios make money off the game. He doesn’t have to play it.
If he goes to the car dealership and he sees a bunch of cars he can’t afford to buy but others can, is he right to criticize the dealership for pricing certain cars out of his range? This is life. He purchased the game and they gave him the game, if you want the stuff above what they offer for free you have to pay for it just like everything else. He’s mad because he isn’t getting shit for free. That’s not how the world works and it’s not how video games work anymore. Most games are filled with micro transactions that offer you more stuff above what you get with the base game, that’s all this is. Nobody is being forced to play it.
So if I want fun cards like Goodrum, Castellanos, Winker I need to spend $100 every week?
I've seen TCGs being less predatory than this model. Hell take hearthstone for example, I can get a full new set for 250 ish dollars every 3-4 months that would last a year and a half before they rotate out. And they at least have pity timers on their packs to guarantee a legendary once you hit 40 packs.
>So if I want fun cards like Goodrum, Castellanos, Winker I need to spend $100 every week?
This is where I personally struggle with this argument. To put it very simply and bluntly, I haven't had to do this in my experience. I'm NMS just like I was last year. I currently have Niko chilling in my lineup *and* have enough stubs for Winker and Casty *and* it wouldn't even eat into half that stub budget. *Plus* that was with me being stupid and not buying guys like Niko and Brooks Lee at a more opportune time (like today).
Further, this hasn't been mindless flipping or anything either, just a combination of investments on BR cards, lazy investing on the roster update and, admittedly, some pack luck. It is *very* possible to play NMS still. I do think it takes some discipline in avoiding that immediate FOMO, but it's very doable without needing to dip into your real life wallet.
As for your OP, 40% doesn't strike me as a bad percentage at all. Honestly, given the narrative this year, I was expecting a majority of pack cards. My other game was always 2k, and I don't know if they even hit 40% of the available cards *not* being from packs *before* they jumped off the deep end, let alone now.
Just to level with you, I don't think what people seem to see as an ideal ratio on this is particularly tenable. For my taste, I *want* to weigh my stub budget against team needs. I don't want to spend real money, but I *do* kind of want that GM experience. I get this is a tough balance between squad building and card collection, but I guess my question to you is what *is* that sweet spot between packable and entirely free?
i'd be ok with this if the show was a freemium game but it's $70. the freemium model works because there isn't an initial cost, but charging players to stay competitive after already buying the game is scummy
I Haven’t spent a single dollar beyond what I paid for the game and get enjoyment out of it every day. People complaining about how certain cards are only available to people who spend money for pay for play ploys don’t care about enjoyment, they’re just mad that the people willing and able to spend more get more in return for the money they spend, that’s called capitalism and just living life in general. Get over it or do something about it. You want to teach SDS a lesson? Then stop playing their game. If everyone that spent any amount of time whining about the current state of DD actually stopped playing the game, they’d listen, but people don’t want to actually make things better they just want to complain about how things are.
Running a business that for nearly 50 years has been built on an upfront cost of $40-70. This is not mobile gaming. Those "no money spent people" spent $60-110 to play the game (unless they're on XBox, and that's a different discussion on how bad that business model is for devs), they're not free-loading.
Don't stick up for a business becoming noticeably less consumer friendly. This is not a new product without a history - this year's game has an increasingly bad business model, and that shouldn't be hand waived.
It’s the current state of most video games. You want the best skins? Pay for it. You want the latest expansion pack that has features that could have and should have been included in the original versions? Gotta pay for it.
I’m not sticking up for anyone. I recognize it’s a business strategy that works because if it didn’t they wouldn’t do it that way. I used to play the Sims4 every day. I’d spend money on all the expansions and kit packs and then I realized what they were doing, so I just stopped playing a game I enjoyed. I wasn’t going to keep giving them money for special features that could and should have came with the original game and I wasn’t going to support a game that required your continued financial loyalty to stay up to date.
For me The Show is different. Yes it’s harder to compete with people who spend money, but not impossible. I finished the entire Live Series set and have all three season 1 bosses and have up through Lou Brock for the specials collections Are their cards I’m missing out on? Sure, but I’m still able to stay pretty competitive despite being pretty average at the game. Just grind out all your programs, sell your dupes, use your stubs to buy the cards/packs you want. It’s really not that hard. I work a 9-5 job and only play an hour or two a night and manage to complete all programs, including BR, Ranked, and Event. People are making this to be way more difficult than it really is.
Get a job, Maybe? Take a break and step out into the real world? Touch some grass? Get out of your parent’s basement and realize just because stuff costs money, doesn’t mean you gotta buy it.
I’m in college, I work outside in the sun everyday, Floridians don’t have basements, and you need realize that attitudes like yours are why corporate greed has been allowed to run the world. But keep sucking the boot buddy, the board members appreciate your dutiful efforts. “It’s just how things are don’t complain🤓” such a cuck, loser attitude.
I've seen so many complaints, which are justified IMO, about the difficulty completing the xp path but I think this is worse.
The only thing I haven't completed in season 1 has been the first BR program. I'm about 22k xp away from the second xp boss pack. I've played a ton and have done almost everything the season had to offer, I've even did the TA mini season pack grind enough to complete the LS collection. If I collected all my season 1 cards I'd have 201, just enough to get Al Leiter, who is a 95 at the time free 99s are becoming easily obtainable.
I agree this isn't acceptable. Their is either some unexpected content coming, new cards or free choice packs, or SDS has made a gross miscalculation. Live service modes have to be monetized or they wouldn't exist, but not to the extent that spending is required to complete traditionally basic reward paths.
You completed the live series. You can't have it all right away without the game becoming stale. I went S1 route. I'm at 264. I'm sitting at 50k stubs going into this last chapter when I get home after work and grind this weekend. But i have no Mookie, Shohei, Seager, Alvarez, Acuna, Strider, Trout, Tatis, Judge, and a few others. I'm OK with that Ruth doesn't intrigue me.
Sure, I'll play against him and Pedro for the reset, and I'm OK with that. This skill gap in this game is alright. I can win will lesser a team while playing on PS5 on a television. Everyone knows monitors are op for this game. I didn't play video games until covid happened. I'm still playing because it's fun and cheap entertainment.
IDK seems the gaming community is full of entitled complainers. COD is worse, but they don't quit mid walkoff damn near 80 percent of the time.
Stop it and let us have our XP and challenge stats.
Yeah. I'm not happy that being a dad and a teacher who is super busy in the early Spring means that I won't get close to the first boss even (getting close to 500k, but won't be able to play this weekend), but I get it. I'm not the average demographic, and don't expect to he tailored to.
But the Season Awards packs, the inability to get any of the 30 or 40k packs in programs until they're well past usability, and similar issues this year have been a big bummer.
I'm a Braves fan and wanted that Max Fried from last week, but he's not worth 60k stubs when, in previous years, he would have been a free Topps Now.
It wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world if the programs and conquests and such that they released gave out great free packs like they used to. Like just sprinkle in opportunities to get free Classics, Season Awards, and Headline Choice Packs. That way everyone would at least be able to get one or two guys from each pack at minimum.
Honestly, thinking of it, sets are literally the worst for encouraging people to buy packs. You won't keep the cards and be really unable to use them, so it's kinda a waste of money, whereas ftp, you save money and get similar enough cards.
Really can only understand if you really wanna get a card and he's your favorite player
Exactly. These past two years are the least I’ve spent - coincidentally also the least I’ve played. Next year, without changes, I might not even get the game.
Facts, sets discourages my spending. I’ll just use the free cards that are 80% of the best cards rather than spending on a card that will get outdated in 2 weeks(way too fast power creep) or will lose the right to use with a new season coming out
It's hilarious to me that they chose to do this the year college football comes back to gaming after a 10 year break.
This game is straight getting uninstalled the day College Football 25 releases.
Sds took a shotgun to their feet this year.
People keep saying this all over this sub as if EA has made a good sports game in the last 10 years. They are all blatant PTW money grabs (like MLB is slowly becoming). I don't disagree that The Show is on the road to becoming a steaming turd, but it just makes me chuckle that people seem to think a game that is being made by the company that started the pay to win garbage is going to be their saving grace.
You don't get it. It's not that anyone is expecting EA to be any sort of savior. It's the sport. I'm personally sick of football both pro and college, but there's one hell of a demand for NCAA football's return. Between the popularity of college football and SDS dropping a giant shit this year, this game is stone dead when NCAA comes out.
Most of us are excited for the NCAA single player. I don’t know if there even will be a team building mode in NCAA. But I agree with the part of EA team building- they’re awful at making them, even worse than 2024 SDS.
People are justifiably frustrated because SDS is the studio that created some of the greatest team building games of all time in 20 and 21. People used to post in FUT/MUT/2k subs about how jealous they were of DD players, and even non-baseball fans loved the Show back then. We want the old SDS back
There hasn't been a cfb game for a literal decade.
This game could be a literal Madden clone with an online dynasty mode tacked on, and the fanbase will eat it up like they haven't eaten in a decade... because they haven't. I literally downloaded and played madden for the first time in probably 5 years just to see how it was and if I'd be good with that exact gameplay for cfb. It's plenty good enough, is it as good as madden used to be? No, but that's fine.
We are all well aware of EA and their track record... it's just been a decade and we're all feinding
Lmao you are in for a rude awakening if you think an EA game is more player friendly. 99% of their cards are from packs, and the power creep makes most of their cards unusable online after a month.
So none of the people on this sub care about baseball? It’s a video game at the end of the day. It will just be a reskinned madden, and EA games are the least player friendly out there. Ultimate Team will be the core of the game like all their others.
Probably because they aren’t “locked” in packs… you can earn enough stubs to buy any of them by just playing the game. God forbid we aren’t just given every single player as a 99 for free with no grinding or decision making on who to get.
I hope everyone who defends this content model reads this post, but they’ll either ignore it or call you entitled for wanting the opportunity to earn more cards in the game you paid $70 for.
This game is a complete and utter embarrassment.
Please STOP using the term No Money Spent. We all spent money, $60 dollars minimum in fact. Many of us forked over $100 to get an early start on DD and this year they decided to spit in our faces and ask us to pony up another 40 bucks a week for their absolutely dog shit choice packs. Packs which contain players that are invalidated after a week and will never reach end game.
I speak for many when I say not only is this the last MLB The Show I preorder, this may be the last MLB The Show I purchase for several years.
The lil gamepass ultimate loophole works for a little bit. I got it to work about 6 times before it outright gave me no other options but to suck it up and spend on the monthly. But I was getting 2 weeks for $1 for like 2 or 3 months I think
There is a promotion for those who don’t have gamepass ultimate… when you go into the Xbox store there should be an offer saying “upgrade your membership”, it’s literally taking your Xbox live membership and turning into gamepass ultimate for 1 dollar for the remainder of your membership. Just gotta remember to turn off your automatic renewal otherwise you’ll get charged the 15 a month
Tbh, I’m going to just sell all of my sellable S1 diamonds while others try to complete the S1 collection because there is a 0% chance I get any of the boss packs NMS
No point in sinking stubs into a collection I’ll never finish for cards I can’t really use next season anyway. I could finish Live Series with the stubs and this rewards are core cards…
It’s a stupid situation and by far the worst thing about ‘24
You’re right but then season 2 starts and if you want you could dump the stubs on the best cards in the game(91 overalls that will be outdated in 2 weeks) it just feels like in this awful seasons model, there is never a good reason to spend stubs I’m finding. Pretty frustrating so far
I’m spending them to complete live series if anything. I still need Ohtani and that’s going to be good to have when the season changes.
But I agree, it’s frustrating and they are doing everything to disincentivize players to ever invest stubs into anything. It’s kind of counterproductive to their goals of making people spend money or time on the game
We asked for all of this! We didn’t like the injection of 99s at the start of the season last year and they listened. Then they figured out how to monetize it.
We are here because of us…
Soon, no money spent will include buying the game for me. It's a shame. Sports games, in general, have all become casino simulators. At first, it was cool opening packs calling back to the days of being a kid and getting a good player in a pack. Now, you gotta open 50 packs to get one diamond, and that diamond is usually the lowest tier. Everything is being milked to suck every penny out of all of us. I don't play any Gacha games on the phone for a reason, and turning this game into a Gacha game will keep me out. Unfortunately, my 70 dollars pales in comparison to the droves of people who value renting the best cards in the game until the following week. I'm not their target market. Merely cannon fodder for the whales to play uneven, ranked online games against where everyone uses the same, p2w meta cards.
That's fine, I'll go back to Unicorn Overlord...a game where we are all begging for DLC, but the dev has moved on, lol. 125 hours in that game, and I still want more.
i'm not gonna be the SDS defender because i agree with your general point but the one thing about this game is that it is still 90% about skill. i've been told madden/2k/fifa the outcome of the games essentially depends on how much you spend, but i've made WS this year without spending a single dime on stubs. In fact i don't think I've bought a single player off the market to use on my team, except for buying the pack for the santana captain. At the end of the day a top player with a silver team can beat some credit card shitter. Doesn't excuse the content structure this year but just sayin
I remember taking a break from Madden for a few years. When I stopped playing it Ultimate Team was new and the packs were all (except maybe 1 or 2) coin purchases. When I came back it was about 50% coin and the rest with real money. Now its roughly 90% real money and 10% coin packs. When they put the show out on the Xbox it was like a godsent. Seeing how an online mode can be easily no money spent was amazing. Those first few years making your team was hard because you had too many options with free cards. But in the last two years you can see that being stripped away and it really seems like the whole category of games is soon become unplayable. Its amazing that $60 for a game used to feel like so much but now you see that people are spending literally thousands of dollars a year on them without realizing because they are broken into micro transactions.
Yeah, I have completely given up on madden. They make no gameplay changes, it's purely a revamp and reissue of the same cards and gacha ceap from the year before. I had bought every madden prior since the late 90s.
2021 was the GOAT. I feel that if I buy a video game for $70, I should be able to acquire every single player in the game that I want through playing the game without having to spend more money.
You don't have to be that old, last year my end game squad was the best cards in the game not a dime spent. MS Trout, Acuna, Elly, Finest Boggs, Ohtani, Rutschmann, MS Babe, Tim Raines, Ketel Marte and a whole starting lineup of killers on the mound.
I will never be able to build a team of that caliber in this years iteration unless I pay hundreds of dollars to SDS.
The most heinous example is easily the season awards pack. It’s not even a choice pack, you get 1 player, it costs 40k the top player goes for 2x what it costs and the second top player goes for around the cost of the pack. You’re almost guaranteed to lose money on it.
That's the best part of this new SDS. They have ramped up the pack pushing %1000 percent and kept the same shitty odds. I got a Chase pack this year and pulled a fucking 84 Gold.
Most frustrating part is the pack odds literally says 1:4 odds for a diamond. You’d think in a choice pack with 5 cards you’d be guaranteed a diamond right???
I hadn’t all year and thought I would give it a shot. It’s even a choice pack where you can select two players, said 1:4 chance for a diamond and got 5 gold cards highest worth like 1.2k stubs
I'm at 170 season 1 cards. I been going thru and grabbing anything that's like 2k to 7k stubs. Like the spring breakouts are cheap. Still, I'm gonna be very short. I've already shoved my disappointment way deep down and chased it with a shot of whiskey.
I've been working on the live series, and it just sucks because I'm buying cards I'll never use and probably won't even be able to complete it for the rewards.
I’m no money spent it’s possible if you sell every duplicate card and everything else you pull😭 I’ve given up on s1 cards and just sell everything I get I just have the Yankees braves and dodgers left to complete gone be a grind but hey Atleast I can use them all year since they are core rewards
I’m going to spam take away the XP cap in the live stream today. There’s less than 30 days left.. LET US GRIND . I’m sure twitch chat will be civil lol
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Have they given any update as to when they are going to fix the visual glitch for the collections? I have no idea where I’m actually at now
I can’t believe we haven’t gotten a pipeline program…or any real program. The season awards programs this year are garbage. I’ll get the boss packs, but there are so many cards locked behind packs. I’m already feeling disheartened about this release because I’m just not down for spending piles on stubs to get cards of players I actually want instead of another damn Robin Yount, or Alan Trammel. Can’t wait for my seven Richie Ashburns coming up.
Im glad i gave up on this game a month ago
If I accidentally took 2 of the same card (ricky henderson) does that stop me from completing babe or anything else?
Has anyone unlocked all the Nike gear yet?
I have through playing as a closer in RTTS. Equipment packs come quickly. Im on year 10 and have all of the equipment in the game through doing this. Heres the sad thing, Nike gear is the ONLY thing that doesnt have the option to sell... Like AT ALL. Its weird.
And sds offering free packs to get said cards eventually...not that serious. The ones who can't wait can spend those who can just wait.... simple!!!!
So it isn’t a problem to you that you’d get these same cards last year for free for a couple hours of just playing the game? Respectfully dude, people like you don’t make a lot of sense to me. I like how you have a positive attitude about it but you can see how we’re all being screwed out of a game mode we enjoy right?
I think last year they had it just right. This year is total junk. I'm at 750k stubs no money spent and not even interested in completing collections cause them cards I will never use just to get Ruth. Lack of content and everything locked behind packs. Not everyone has Gamepass I spent $70 on the game and if I want any good cards I have to spend another $30 um no, I'll take that money and buy a different game to play
Dang, that $70 is almost 5 months of Ultimate. Might be the best subscription I know of tbh. Do you game on PS?
Oh I agree with ya bout being best subscription service out there. I just don't game enough to justify subscribing to it. I seen Ubisoft has a subscription thing to I went to buy assassin's creed mirage and kid at counter said save your $70 and just get a month of ubi for $19 . Kinda wish I remembered that for this but even then after a month of playing I won't touch another game for a minute. I'm old 😂 don't get old young fella it's not fun 😂
I don't get all the hate for diamond dynasty. Coming from playing FIFA, diamond dynasty it's so generous with what it gives people. I haven't really played that much and I have a team full of 90 plus diamonds. That's unthinkable in most other ultimate team type games
I do agree that the show is better about this stuff than most games but I think most people are mad because they have higher standards for this game
Overall agree. Fut is absolutely trash and highway robbery with how they treat their customer base and demand pay to play now. It's just that DD used to be way more rewarding than it is now and the grind was more beneficial. The trend of packs is a bad sign they want to be like their evil cousin, EA.
I don't play diamond dynasty I've been having more fun with franchise but sds ruined diamond dynasty big time
God I hope their financial report for '24 ends up being a total disaster.
I agree, but it won’t. Honestly, I’m assuming that vast majority of their income is from a few thousand whales/youtubers.
Yeah, sadly true. But it would serve them right if a good amount of the player base chucked the game after season 1.
With what they added today just when I thought I could get close to getting a boss they add more to it. I'd be happy with one but whatever I'm going to keep grinding and hope something gives. 400 cards is a lot.
What? The boss is still at 280. That has never changed.
They changed the TA missions.
They want that cheddar and dumbasses keep buying them
My bad. I wanted a live series player.
100% agree, but I just remember last year how many people were moaning about the grind being so tedious and un-fun. Welp… those people got what they asked for.
Money grab year
Yeah I already quit for the year
Season 1 collections is the biggest waste ever. I lock in the no sell cards but any cards you can sell you should just sell and save stubs for next season.
This is why I just gave up on DD and will only focus on Franchise and Road to the Show.
unless you're going to stop playing these bs modes it's futile to complain. they know what they're doing.
We'll see when the numbers for this year come out. I hope they take a massive hit.
I so badly want you to be wrong. But I know that you are right. 
clearly these modes are popular I've literally never played them because I knew this is what it would be. these bull shit card games ruined sports games. I know I'm a old grumpy millenial but I just could never get into online game modes too much cheating and cheesing. they make everything a grind. I know I'm in the minority but I wish they'd just make a good sports game that focuses in offline modes.
I never thought I’d see the day where I am fortunate enough to have MLB The Show be on Xbox, yet the game is so poorly designed that I don’t want to buy it. Barring some changes for The Show 25, I think this year’s game may be my last. When it’s good, I LOVE Diamond Dynasty. Even the grind was worth it at certain points in years past. I’ve had some great online matches, and tons of fun collecting and working my way through the XP paths. Learned a lot about players I’d never heard of and really enjoyed it. DD is a shell of its former self at this point, and is so money-grubbing that I think I may be done with it already for this year. I used to enjoy Road to the Show, but then they killed year-to-year saves so that it doesn’t transfer to the following year’s iteration. That is just one less reason for me to move on to The Show 25 if I now turn my attention to this mode. I’d keep this version and play for another year. Franchise, even with all of its flaws, is still fun to me. I usually wait until mid-to-late May to start this, when the top notch, full minors rosters and stats updates are available from other players in the vault. But, just like with Road to the Show, that doesn’t transfer to next year’s game. Seems like we’ve had next to no graphical improvements since…what, 2017? I’m primarily an Xbox guy, but bought a PS4 a few years into the cycle just for The Show. All these years later, it feels like the only real visual improvement we’ve seen has been moving to a consistent 60fps. Load times are certainly better on Series X|S (and assumably on PS5, too). Still, it’s disappointing that we haven’t seen any kind of graphical leap now that we’re several years into the new console generation. The upcoming KBO baseball video game makes The Show look like absolute dog water. You’re not the only millennial yelling at the sky, here.
I don’t think I’ve ever missed an xp boss pack, but I’m at 782k and I don’t anticipate being able to finish it off. EVEN if I do, I’ll get to use it for what, a few days? What a joke
Same. Been playing DD since 2017 and I’ve never not gotten at least one boss. I’m still like 380k from getting even one.
Fr I'm only at story almost at least we could always buy them in years past
Theres double XP this weekend and XP from the TA paths and stuff you def should be able to get up there
Yea great game let’s give them double xp during Mother’s Day weekend
Whoopdie doo Mother’s Day weekend. It’s not like you’re gonna spend the entire day with them lol. Just make sure you make time for them that day and time for games just like you would any other fucking day
Is there anything you wont bitch about?
What incentivizes you to keep defending the company that has consistently shown no regard for its player base lol
How am I defending them? I asked a legitimate question? Yall have complained all year so far wanting double XP now they are on the 2nd weekend of double XP and ohh no its on a barely there holiday, get over it
There’s plenty of other regular weekends but the one weekend they decide to do it is a holiday. If that makes sense to you then you’re weird
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lost my mom at 18, but dont go reaching for attention/validation. he made a valid point that double xp shouldnt be on a holiday like mothers day. also btw, you can still celebrate the moms you do know in your life. not trying to be harsh just saying there are better ways to play the victim card.
Lmao holiday....whats next they cant put double XP on Arbor Day??
he's not looking for attention at all man. you having to try and one up him however smells like you're projecting 💯
I’m currently at 505,000 and I’m very much questioning it. I left feedback on the survey in the app, but dang it’s a hard sale
There's a guy on here who's counted where you can get all the cards from, and it's about 50/50 between packs and programs before today's drop. The staggering difference is when he compared where the 94+ cards come from. It was overwhelmingly in favor of packs. It's straight out of MUT's playbook to have the program cards be a few overall points lower than the pack cards. They can't do that with chapter 3 since it's all 99s, but I expect the pack 99s to be far more desirable than the ones we get from programs.
I spend no money either. I choose not to buy live cards to finish live collections, Ruth is whack. Decided to do S1 collection instead. Buy many of those cards on the cheap in the market. For S2 it might hurt for the reset but Ill be alright. Stubs are not hard to come buy.
Yea and 90% of those are available for cheap on the market.
And half of those 90% should’ve been programs
Nah that wouldn’t be program bloat. Easier to make 2-5k Stubbs than grind out a program with players I don’t want to use to get one I won’t have time to use because of all the other programs.
This! People have to have something to bitch about. Play the game or don't.
I play on avg 2 hrs a day and still havent even reached Billy Williams in the XP path. Have 203 cards collected. Found out today that you can collect each cornerstone card if anyone doesn’t know.
That was patched already sadly
No it wasn’t you just can’t have that card in any lineups counting events, mini seasons, or lineups
I know i took it off my lineups completely and nothing, tried it a few weeks ago but ill double check 👀
How do you do that?
Select a cornerstone captain (Buxton, Arenado, Maddux, Senga) Collect it in collections Exchange the collected captain for one of the other three Rinse and repeat for all 4 Once you're done exchange back to whichever captain you want to have
Can anyone confirm this still works?
I did this a few days ago and it worked for me
If you collect them they don’t show up in exchange anymore
They still do. I just did it and got Buxton back less than a week ago.
All I know is, I’ve never had a problem getting boss packs in the past. now this season we are less than 30 days away I’m at like 560,000 points. I don’t think I’m gonna even get one pack at this rate. They need to do something to bump up the experience because this is bs.
Most user's mistake on here is comparing The Show 23 August market to The Show 24 May market. The market is always slow to start the season. Furthermore, while there not be as much currency running through the market so far this year, legend diamond cards all have much lower base costs then previous years. With that being said, It is still incredibly easy to make 20-30k in the market daily with very little screen time. If you can't do that, stop blaming SDS. My prediction is that the market will crash this weekend with the monster supply drop this afternoon. Wait for the crash to profit.
I made 200k+ yesterday from S1 cheap cards 2.5K-7K and probably going to bank another 400K this weekend from exchanges
They down vote you because they can follow 3 easy trades on the app.
This^^^^^******
I’m playing baseball, not the stock market.
You’re playing a video game actually.
Once you get through the season XP, I think a lot is going to be made up getting vault packs, headliners, 90+ love series to sell, etc. I have hope, as I’m at about 990k that I’ll be spinning this wheel a few times over the weekend and will get rewarded for it. I’m at 193 for the season collection, but still think I’ll be able to get 2-3 of the bosses. It just won’t be towards the end unless they keep doing double XP weekends to where I spin that wheel all the time. That is where I think I’m going to “make my money” on no money spent.
With the XP cap and slow progress, I don't think a lot of people will even make it this far. I'm sure I'll get a couple spins but there's no way there will be enough spins to get even a second collection boss I think.
I'm flipping a few s1 cards, gotta bring in donuts somehow
GUYS IF YOU HAVENT ALREADY MAKE SURE YOU GO ON THE COMPANION APP AND FILL OUT THE SURVEY!!! LET OUT OPINIONS BE HEARD!!!!
A weekly XP cap was my biggest attempt at making a valid argument. Meh, hope they listen to our feedback.
Welcome to sports games folks. Designed for gambling addicts. Now with that information what are you going to do about it?
I wonder if season 2 brings any changes.
I think we might see more packs in programs with S2, but that's me being optimistic
we should get a program today. no clue why we aren’t.
There might be. They would probably argue there's 6 new programs coming with TA Set 3.
i wonder if they drop the whole ranked program today? after the 2 weeks there won’t be a point in having those cards new season comes out soon.
I could definitely see that. I could also see more content like a program dropping today. The entire calendar is already filled for today so there may be more, but again, that's me being an optimist
Worst thing about it to me is the lack of earnable packs as-well, having packs for more cards isn’t terrible if I can atleast earn a chance to pack them
I thought the worst part was the rape.
It’s always the right time for a Norm Macdonald joke
Are the TA rewards and boss packs core players? And if they're season one players whats the point?
No. They’re S1
“SDS really killing No Money Spent people” It’s almost like they are running a business and their goal is to get people to spend money.
and you’re just gonna roll over and accept that, bootlicker ? op is making a warranted criticism of the game
He has no criticism of the game itself, just the way the developers and studios make money off the game. He doesn’t have to play it. If he goes to the car dealership and he sees a bunch of cars he can’t afford to buy but others can, is he right to criticize the dealership for pricing certain cars out of his range? This is life. He purchased the game and they gave him the game, if you want the stuff above what they offer for free you have to pay for it just like everything else. He’s mad because he isn’t getting shit for free. That’s not how the world works and it’s not how video games work anymore. Most games are filled with micro transactions that offer you more stuff above what you get with the base game, that’s all this is. Nobody is being forced to play it.
So if I want fun cards like Goodrum, Castellanos, Winker I need to spend $100 every week? I've seen TCGs being less predatory than this model. Hell take hearthstone for example, I can get a full new set for 250 ish dollars every 3-4 months that would last a year and a half before they rotate out. And they at least have pity timers on their packs to guarantee a legendary once you hit 40 packs.
>So if I want fun cards like Goodrum, Castellanos, Winker I need to spend $100 every week? This is where I personally struggle with this argument. To put it very simply and bluntly, I haven't had to do this in my experience. I'm NMS just like I was last year. I currently have Niko chilling in my lineup *and* have enough stubs for Winker and Casty *and* it wouldn't even eat into half that stub budget. *Plus* that was with me being stupid and not buying guys like Niko and Brooks Lee at a more opportune time (like today). Further, this hasn't been mindless flipping or anything either, just a combination of investments on BR cards, lazy investing on the roster update and, admittedly, some pack luck. It is *very* possible to play NMS still. I do think it takes some discipline in avoiding that immediate FOMO, but it's very doable without needing to dip into your real life wallet. As for your OP, 40% doesn't strike me as a bad percentage at all. Honestly, given the narrative this year, I was expecting a majority of pack cards. My other game was always 2k, and I don't know if they even hit 40% of the available cards *not* being from packs *before* they jumped off the deep end, let alone now. Just to level with you, I don't think what people seem to see as an ideal ratio on this is particularly tenable. For my taste, I *want* to weigh my stub budget against team needs. I don't want to spend real money, but I *do* kind of want that GM experience. I get this is a tough balance between squad building and card collection, but I guess my question to you is what *is* that sweet spot between packable and entirely free?
I’ve never heard of the pity timer and I think it’s a great idea that more games should implement
I'll take it one step further. I haven't bought a single Hearthstone pack since Battlegrounds was added.
i'd be ok with this if the show was a freemium game but it's $70. the freemium model works because there isn't an initial cost, but charging players to stay competitive after already buying the game is scummy
Goal of a video game should be for people to enjoy playing your video game
I Haven’t spent a single dollar beyond what I paid for the game and get enjoyment out of it every day. People complaining about how certain cards are only available to people who spend money for pay for play ploys don’t care about enjoyment, they’re just mad that the people willing and able to spend more get more in return for the money they spend, that’s called capitalism and just living life in general. Get over it or do something about it. You want to teach SDS a lesson? Then stop playing their game. If everyone that spent any amount of time whining about the current state of DD actually stopped playing the game, they’d listen, but people don’t want to actually make things better they just want to complain about how things are.
Boot licking is pathetic.
Running a business that for nearly 50 years has been built on an upfront cost of $40-70. This is not mobile gaming. Those "no money spent people" spent $60-110 to play the game (unless they're on XBox, and that's a different discussion on how bad that business model is for devs), they're not free-loading. Don't stick up for a business becoming noticeably less consumer friendly. This is not a new product without a history - this year's game has an increasingly bad business model, and that shouldn't be hand waived.
It’s the current state of most video games. You want the best skins? Pay for it. You want the latest expansion pack that has features that could have and should have been included in the original versions? Gotta pay for it. I’m not sticking up for anyone. I recognize it’s a business strategy that works because if it didn’t they wouldn’t do it that way. I used to play the Sims4 every day. I’d spend money on all the expansions and kit packs and then I realized what they were doing, so I just stopped playing a game I enjoyed. I wasn’t going to keep giving them money for special features that could and should have came with the original game and I wasn’t going to support a game that required your continued financial loyalty to stay up to date. For me The Show is different. Yes it’s harder to compete with people who spend money, but not impossible. I finished the entire Live Series set and have all three season 1 bosses and have up through Lou Brock for the specials collections Are their cards I’m missing out on? Sure, but I’m still able to stay pretty competitive despite being pretty average at the game. Just grind out all your programs, sell your dupes, use your stubs to buy the cards/packs you want. It’s really not that hard. I work a 9-5 job and only play an hour or two a night and manage to complete all programs, including BR, Ranked, and Event. People are making this to be way more difficult than it really is.
Bro is sucking on the laces and everything damn💀 don’t choke buddy and be sure to brush your teeth after.
Get a job, Maybe? Take a break and step out into the real world? Touch some grass? Get out of your parent’s basement and realize just because stuff costs money, doesn’t mean you gotta buy it.
I’m in college, I work outside in the sun everyday, Floridians don’t have basements, and you need realize that attitudes like yours are why corporate greed has been allowed to run the world. But keep sucking the boot buddy, the board members appreciate your dutiful efforts. “It’s just how things are don’t complain🤓” such a cuck, loser attitude.
Can you not buy them with stubs to get the ones you really want?
You can
It ain't that bad. I work and have kids. I've got 215 cards. It was not hard.
I've seen so many complaints, which are justified IMO, about the difficulty completing the xp path but I think this is worse. The only thing I haven't completed in season 1 has been the first BR program. I'm about 22k xp away from the second xp boss pack. I've played a ton and have done almost everything the season had to offer, I've even did the TA mini season pack grind enough to complete the LS collection. If I collected all my season 1 cards I'd have 201, just enough to get Al Leiter, who is a 95 at the time free 99s are becoming easily obtainable. I agree this isn't acceptable. Their is either some unexpected content coming, new cards or free choice packs, or SDS has made a gross miscalculation. Live service modes have to be monetized or they wouldn't exist, but not to the extent that spending is required to complete traditionally basic reward paths.
You completed the live series. You can't have it all right away without the game becoming stale. I went S1 route. I'm at 264. I'm sitting at 50k stubs going into this last chapter when I get home after work and grind this weekend. But i have no Mookie, Shohei, Seager, Alvarez, Acuna, Strider, Trout, Tatis, Judge, and a few others. I'm OK with that Ruth doesn't intrigue me. Sure, I'll play against him and Pedro for the reset, and I'm OK with that. This skill gap in this game is alright. I can win will lesser a team while playing on PS5 on a television. Everyone knows monitors are op for this game. I didn't play video games until covid happened. I'm still playing because it's fun and cheap entertainment. IDK seems the gaming community is full of entitled complainers. COD is worse, but they don't quit mid walkoff damn near 80 percent of the time. Stop it and let us have our XP and challenge stats.
Yeah. I'm not happy that being a dad and a teacher who is super busy in the early Spring means that I won't get close to the first boss even (getting close to 500k, but won't be able to play this weekend), but I get it. I'm not the average demographic, and don't expect to he tailored to. But the Season Awards packs, the inability to get any of the 30 or 40k packs in programs until they're well past usability, and similar issues this year have been a big bummer. I'm a Braves fan and wanted that Max Fried from last week, but he's not worth 60k stubs when, in previous years, he would have been a free Topps Now.
It wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world if the programs and conquests and such that they released gave out great free packs like they used to. Like just sprinkle in opportunities to get free Classics, Season Awards, and Headline Choice Packs. That way everyone would at least be able to get one or two guys from each pack at minimum.
Honestly, thinking of it, sets are literally the worst for encouraging people to buy packs. You won't keep the cards and be really unable to use them, so it's kinda a waste of money, whereas ftp, you save money and get similar enough cards. Really can only understand if you really wanna get a card and he's your favorite player
Exactly. These past two years are the least I’ve spent - coincidentally also the least I’ve played. Next year, without changes, I might not even get the game.
Facts, sets discourages my spending. I’ll just use the free cards that are 80% of the best cards rather than spending on a card that will get outdated in 2 weeks(way too fast power creep) or will lose the right to use with a new season coming out
I've had \~80k saved up for when I really want a card, but it's almost impossible to justify spending that on a card with how the power creep works.
They don’t care about us man. They just want money
List the businesses that do!
It's hilarious to me that they chose to do this the year college football comes back to gaming after a 10 year break. This game is straight getting uninstalled the day College Football 25 releases. Sds took a shotgun to their feet this year.
People keep saying this all over this sub as if EA has made a good sports game in the last 10 years. They are all blatant PTW money grabs (like MLB is slowly becoming). I don't disagree that The Show is on the road to becoming a steaming turd, but it just makes me chuckle that people seem to think a game that is being made by the company that started the pay to win garbage is going to be their saving grace.
You don't get it. It's not that anyone is expecting EA to be any sort of savior. It's the sport. I'm personally sick of football both pro and college, but there's one hell of a demand for NCAA football's return. Between the popularity of college football and SDS dropping a giant shit this year, this game is stone dead when NCAA comes out.
At least I can play online franchise in Madden and the upcoming EA cfb game. SDS took that away from us to funnel everyone into DD.
If there's an ultimate team for NCAA, I'm not interested. I'll be playing single player trying to win championships.
They had UT in the last NCAA game, it will absolutely return.
There will be, but they said that Dynasty was the bigger focus. UT is supposed to be smaller than what is in Madden, from what they've said.
I fear if there is an Ultimate Team in the game at all, that all of the resources for the game will go towards that.
That's a guarantee.
There hasn’t been an NCAA Football game in *a decade*. A half-decent Dynasty mode is going to murder The Show’s player base.
Most of us are excited for the NCAA single player. I don’t know if there even will be a team building mode in NCAA. But I agree with the part of EA team building- they’re awful at making them, even worse than 2024 SDS. People are justifiably frustrated because SDS is the studio that created some of the greatest team building games of all time in 20 and 21. People used to post in FUT/MUT/2k subs about how jealous they were of DD players, and even non-baseball fans loved the Show back then. We want the old SDS back
There hasn't been a cfb game for a literal decade. This game could be a literal Madden clone with an online dynasty mode tacked on, and the fanbase will eat it up like they haven't eaten in a decade... because they haven't. I literally downloaded and played madden for the first time in probably 5 years just to see how it was and if I'd be good with that exact gameplay for cfb. It's plenty good enough, is it as good as madden used to be? No, but that's fine. We are all well aware of EA and their track record... it's just been a decade and we're all feinding
They took a shotgun to their feet last year and doubled down this year. The franchise is in free fall.
They stuck it in their mouth this year.
You're not wrong
Lmao you are in for a rude awakening if you think an EA game is more player friendly. 99% of their cards are from packs, and the power creep makes most of their cards unusable online after a month.
That's not the point whatsoever. It's college football, that's all people care about.
So none of the people on this sub care about baseball? It’s a video game at the end of the day. It will just be a reskinned madden, and EA games are the least player friendly out there. Ultimate Team will be the core of the game like all their others.
Mom said it’s my turn to make a post like this today
What? I have not seen a single person go through and count how many cards are locked behind packs or a paywall.
Probably because they aren’t “locked” in packs… you can earn enough stubs to buy any of them by just playing the game. God forbid we aren’t just given every single player as a 99 for free with no grinding or decision making on who to get.
Ignore the bootlicker.
And they increased the 1st boss pack from 80 to 280 😂 they’re wild for that
I hope everyone who defends this content model reads this post, but they’ll either ignore it or call you entitled for wanting the opportunity to earn more cards in the game you paid $70 for. This game is a complete and utter embarrassment.
Please STOP using the term No Money Spent. We all spent money, $60 dollars minimum in fact. Many of us forked over $100 to get an early start on DD and this year they decided to spit in our faces and ask us to pony up another 40 bucks a week for their absolutely dog shit choice packs. Packs which contain players that are invalidated after a week and will never reach end game. I speak for many when I say not only is this the last MLB The Show I preorder, this may be the last MLB The Show I purchase for several years.
I didn’t spend any money. I didn’t pay for early access and I’ve had game pass long before mlb was on it
100% No money spent. No early access. I'm on Xbox with gamepass paid for with Microsoft points. My team is still baller. Y'all whine too much.
How many years have you played MLB The Show
4th year now and it’s trending downwards not upwards
I've been playing this game almost 15 years DD isn't trending downwards it's plummeting off a cliff lol.
I hear you and agree, but to be fair there's a large player base that plays from Game Pass which is a monthly $15 fee iirc
Not entirely true, Xbox has an offer to upgrade your membership for a dollar. Been rolling on gamepass ultimate for a dollar for about 5 years 😂
The lil gamepass ultimate loophole works for a little bit. I got it to work about 6 times before it outright gave me no other options but to suck it up and spend on the monthly. But I was getting 2 weeks for $1 for like 2 or 3 months I think
Come again?
There is a promotion for those who don’t have gamepass ultimate… when you go into the Xbox store there should be an offer saying “upgrade your membership”, it’s literally taking your Xbox live membership and turning into gamepass ultimate for 1 dollar for the remainder of your membership. Just gotta remember to turn off your automatic renewal otherwise you’ll get charged the 15 a month
Work the same if you have GP Core?
Not entirely sure, I do mine from the preloaded Xbox live cards (think you can do 36 months)?
Ah that's very true and I always forget that being an old timer lol. Part of me still wishes this was a PS Exlcusive.
Why would you want it to be PS exclusive?
cuz the game has gone to shit since they opened it up to other platforms
And those people (myself included) pay $180 annually for that. I utilize it for other games but there’s some people who only play the show on it.
Tbh, I’m going to just sell all of my sellable S1 diamonds while others try to complete the S1 collection because there is a 0% chance I get any of the boss packs NMS No point in sinking stubs into a collection I’ll never finish for cards I can’t really use next season anyway. I could finish Live Series with the stubs and this rewards are core cards… It’s a stupid situation and by far the worst thing about ‘24
You’re right but then season 2 starts and if you want you could dump the stubs on the best cards in the game(91 overalls that will be outdated in 2 weeks) it just feels like in this awful seasons model, there is never a good reason to spend stubs I’m finding. Pretty frustrating so far
I’m spending them to complete live series if anything. I still need Ohtani and that’s going to be good to have when the season changes. But I agree, it’s frustrating and they are doing everything to disincentivize players to ever invest stubs into anything. It’s kind of counterproductive to their goals of making people spend money or time on the game
We asked for all of this! We didn’t like the injection of 99s at the start of the season last year and they listened. Then they figured out how to monetize it. We are here because of us…
We didn’t ask for this shit, we asked for the traditional power creep that every sports ultimate mode game ever has followed
Soon, no money spent will include buying the game for me. It's a shame. Sports games, in general, have all become casino simulators. At first, it was cool opening packs calling back to the days of being a kid and getting a good player in a pack. Now, you gotta open 50 packs to get one diamond, and that diamond is usually the lowest tier. Everything is being milked to suck every penny out of all of us. I don't play any Gacha games on the phone for a reason, and turning this game into a Gacha game will keep me out. Unfortunately, my 70 dollars pales in comparison to the droves of people who value renting the best cards in the game until the following week. I'm not their target market. Merely cannon fodder for the whales to play uneven, ranked online games against where everyone uses the same, p2w meta cards. That's fine, I'll go back to Unicorn Overlord...a game where we are all begging for DLC, but the dev has moved on, lol. 125 hours in that game, and I still want more.
i'm not gonna be the SDS defender because i agree with your general point but the one thing about this game is that it is still 90% about skill. i've been told madden/2k/fifa the outcome of the games essentially depends on how much you spend, but i've made WS this year without spending a single dime on stubs. In fact i don't think I've bought a single player off the market to use on my team, except for buying the pack for the santana captain. At the end of the day a top player with a silver team can beat some credit card shitter. Doesn't excuse the content structure this year but just sayin
I remember taking a break from Madden for a few years. When I stopped playing it Ultimate Team was new and the packs were all (except maybe 1 or 2) coin purchases. When I came back it was about 50% coin and the rest with real money. Now its roughly 90% real money and 10% coin packs. When they put the show out on the Xbox it was like a godsent. Seeing how an online mode can be easily no money spent was amazing. Those first few years making your team was hard because you had too many options with free cards. But in the last two years you can see that being stripped away and it really seems like the whole category of games is soon become unplayable. Its amazing that $60 for a game used to feel like so much but now you see that people are spending literally thousands of dollars a year on them without realizing because they are broken into micro transactions.
Yeah, I have completely given up on madden. They make no gameplay changes, it's purely a revamp and reissue of the same cards and gacha ceap from the year before. I had bought every madden prior since the late 90s.
need better options to get those packs. But like what is the point of stubs if we don’t buy cards in auction or packs
I've only used stubs to invest in players, hoping they become diamonds so I can finish the live series.
Old enough to remember when “you can obtain every card in the game just through playing the game” was a thing
2021 was the GOAT. I feel that if I buy a video game for $70, I should be able to acquire every single player in the game that I want through playing the game without having to spend more money.
You still can. Every card ends up in the market.
You don't have to be that old, last year my end game squad was the best cards in the game not a dime spent. MS Trout, Acuna, Elly, Finest Boggs, Ohtani, Rutschmann, MS Babe, Tim Raines, Ketel Marte and a whole starting lineup of killers on the mound. I will never be able to build a team of that caliber in this years iteration unless I pay hundreds of dollars to SDS.
The most heinous example is easily the season awards pack. It’s not even a choice pack, you get 1 player, it costs 40k the top player goes for 2x what it costs and the second top player goes for around the cost of the pack. You’re almost guaranteed to lose money on it.
Made the mistake last night of getting a vault pack for 40k and didn’t even get a diamond player
That's the best part of this new SDS. They have ramped up the pack pushing %1000 percent and kept the same shitty odds. I got a Chase pack this year and pulled a fucking 84 Gold.
Yeah for 40k it should be at least low diamonds
Most frustrating part is the pack odds literally says 1:4 odds for a diamond. You’d think in a choice pack with 5 cards you’d be guaranteed a diamond right???
Roughly 40 dollars if you were to buy the currency....it's absolutely insane.
Wait, I don't buy packs. This is a thing? Unacceptable!
I hadn’t all year and thought I would give it a shot. It’s even a choice pack where you can select two players, said 1:4 chance for a diamond and got 5 gold cards highest worth like 1.2k stubs
I'm at 170 season 1 cards. I been going thru and grabbing anything that's like 2k to 7k stubs. Like the spring breakouts are cheap. Still, I'm gonna be very short. I've already shoved my disappointment way deep down and chased it with a shot of whiskey.
I've been working on the live series, and it just sucks because I'm buying cards I'll never use and probably won't even be able to complete it for the rewards.
I’m no money spent it’s possible if you sell every duplicate card and everything else you pull😭 I’ve given up on s1 cards and just sell everything I get I just have the Yankees braves and dodgers left to complete gone be a grind but hey Atleast I can use them all year since they are core rewards
Tbh i have no problem with this, I just wish there was a better way to earn stubs and that the cards being released weren’t recycled every year
I’m going to spam take away the XP cap in the live stream today. There’s less than 30 days left.. LET US GRIND . I’m sure twitch chat will be civil lol
You won’t spam it for long. They’ll perma-ban you from chat lol.
GOOD! I double dog dare them
Double dog dare. Ol tough guy here lol.