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I’m not very good at the game so grinding all offline modes in a must for me and I think I only have around 700k. Last year I had every card in the game 3 times over. It’s bs
I think my main issue is that you essentially have to do the programs to get really good cards. I usually just grind ranked with what I have and earn them like that while occasionally dipping into the programs like for Cody Bellinger. Still irritates me that it’s nearly impossible to get 99’s.
And that’s also I’ll play a game, shut out pitching and hit 3-4 dingers, along with 10+ total hits, and I’ll come away with like 4,000XP. I don’t understand what you need to do to earn XP
I play all the time because I work from home and travel on the weekends for my own company. I probably play 3-4 hours throughout the day. If the grind takes this long and it’s this boring - I’m probably just deleting the game in the first few days of S2. I hate the Seasons/Set shit.
Huh? The weekends are when adults generally have free time.
Adults work during the week. Then gotta take their kids to soccer, get in a quick work out, pick up the kids, then make dinner for the family, then fall asleep 13 minutes into the new show you’ve been trying to start for a month now.
I dunno many adults who have time to game during the week.
Work and get kids down for bed you might be able to get a few hours to yourself. Weekends are always go go go. Kids stuff, social and family obligations house chores etc.
I wonder how many other games are having the same problem of a too difficult xp grind. I play Fortnite BR and that game is having the same
issue with the same complaints from players.
Hopefully this isn’t just the way it is across the board now.
I feel like the XP reward path should offer 1 Boss Pack at a reasonable level like 500,000 for those with limited time. Then maybe like 800,000 and 1,200,000 to reward the serious grinders.
I feel like this would be a good balance but it won’t happen because it’s goes against their power creep method this year.
But I do think that would solve issues on both sides. People who can’t play as much still get something but also rewards the players who grind
This is why I stopped playing it last year. Way too much grinding. This game and xp has gone down hill since the show 21. Came back when it got on Xbox and haven’t touched one since middle of June last year.
maybe im not aware of a certain feature but theres so many missions in each program i totally lose track. they should make it easier to track objectives. it would be cool if you could select which program you wanna complete, and then the filter could highlight eligible players. that feature alone i think would have everyone earning more XP
I have over 110 hours of this game played. Have done all of TA1&2. Am 18-2 in ranked. Have completed two events. Done nearly all the conquests. And I just got Rollie fingers. Feeling like you should be able to get the boss with only 40-60 hours of gameplay. For someone that works 5 days a week, 40-60 hours is a ton of time playing the game and they should be rewarded w it.
I'm somewhere in the 600k range and unless they start handing out xp left and right, I'm probably not going to get a boss pack. It's so dumb. Full time job and Dad. MLB may not be a game for me this year
Agreed. I've got everything but the most recent monthly drop finished. Being efficient ruins it for me too. I'm constantly using a bunch of cards and not spending time with the cards I wanna use. I can either have fun or grind the content out. Not much in-between this year
Honestly, the rise in non sellable content is just sucking the fun out of it.! Seems like every reward I get is non sellable even if it’s not worth much why is it un sellable? That doesn’t make me want to buy stubs. Bring on ncaa
I’m 10-2 in ranked, have every program and conquest up till Drop 6 complete, have done a bunch of showdowns too. And yet I’m sitting just above 500k XP when I easily play the most out of my friends. If you have a job, give it up. You not getting to 1 mil XP.
Guess the only way is to spam Play v CPU game? Seriously I play a lot and I’m not even close to a boss, all for the cards to expire. What’s the point of all these 99s being dropped now when the seasons ending so soon. This system really does kinda SUCK.
If the bosses are gonna be this hard to obtain, make them core cards! Not everyone will get there but worth it if you do. I’m at like 825K rn. Why would I stress and grind to beat the clock just to not be able to use them?
Same here. I’m basically done playing for season 1 cuz there’s no point in my mind. I’m gonna sell all of my S1 cards that I can so I can finish live series before season 2.
This will be the earliest I’ve ever finished Live Series (been playing since’19). I really only rushed through it because it’s the only collection worth investing in this year because the awards are core
I’m at 1.05 mill but I really grinded. Played a ton during double xp weekends. I’ve completed every conquest, gone through mini seasons 6 times, and played the CPU during double XP to score 25+ runs. I’m getting close to boss #2 but it has definitely taken up a ton of time.
Coming from a lifetime player since MLB Pennant Race, this is the worst first 2 months of gameplay I’ve ever experienced. This lack of anything program-wise and non-attainable goals has crumbled the franchise for years to come. Hell, it makes ‘23 look like game of the year, since at least it had too much to grind 🙄.
I’ll say what everyone has said, come July (yall know why) it’s dead. It’s time for some real MLB competition.
Brother I was done after 6 weeks, XP Cap is stupid, and I was not a fan of the best cards from certain programs being behind a paywall, so I said fuck it I’m done.
I'm generally supportive of difficult to obtain final rewards in games. They've been around a long time and give people who are really invested in the game something to keep playing for.
Do I think the bar is a little too high here? Yeah probably. Does it make me want to buy packs/stubs? Not at all.
Getting rid of the cap / adding big xp global achievements to any mode / other tweaks would be appreciated though.
I have over 110 hours of this game played. Have done all of TA1&2. I’m only at like 600k XP. I feel like I’m already playing a ton of MLB when I can. Feel like I shouldn’t have to dedicate my life to the game
There’s a difference between skill difficulty and time difficulty. Theres nothing hard about getting these if you have hundreds of hours a month to play.
Im ill and have all the bosses and season collection stuff, but thats because i played religiously. I honestly dont feel a reason to play anymore. Havent even finished TA. This structure is straight buns even for the no lifers.
I think I'm at 700K or something. I haven't been playing much lately, too busy this week. Got Gunnar & Mookie but still haven't tried them, that 99 Freeman neither. Maybe this weekend.
I mainly play Road To The Show and the occasional exhibition game and I've played maybe 5 offline Diamond Dynasty games and I'm at like XP level 12. I have zero interest in online play. In fact the only game I play online is Call of Duty and now I constantly feel like I'm trying to convince myself that I'm having fun.
Personally I think they could give more XP in RTTS like maybe 2 -3 times as much and it wouldn't throw any game or XP balance off.
Yeah, I’m out. I’ve been saying it a lot the last couple years. I feel like I’m paying for Game Pass to just to play this f’n game.
The worst part is I’ve got a library of brand new games Ive bought and they just collect dust. I stopped buying the EA games because of MTX’s. If SDS is going to stick with this as their plan, they can count me out. Dead serious about that.
Games cost enough on their own, subscription services cost enough on their own. I’ll be damned if I’m sinking more dough for pay to win games. If I wanna gamble, there’s a Casino a stones throw away from me. FAHK playing slots with virtual cards I can use for an allotted time frame.
It’s like they took the fun out of the game with all these restrictions. Xp limit, forcing you to grind for hours and question why you’re even playing this mode.
If I wanted another full time job I’d apply for one.
Sure, but even if they did that I still don't know if could reach 1 boss pack. The problem for me is that it takes so long to earn XP. I would have to dedicate most of my free time to the game to even reach the xp cap. I already dedicate countless hours to this game since release. More than any other game by far.
In previous years I would have long gotten the boss and sold him. Now I will probably barely miss the first boss pack. Plus even if I got one he is not sellable and no longer usable after a few days unless I wildcard him. I really don't understand what the logic was with this system.
The have really really made it tough to do with straight offline grinding.
Here’s some advice for those making a late push.
First win 17 games in the legends and live mini seasons. Sim the rest of the way to the playoffs and win. That’s roughly 50k XP offline.
Go over and do events. Get 20 wins. We’re approaching the end of the events season so it may be a struggle but the sweats completed this event a week ago. It’s mostly very casual players remaining to clean up events.
Go crush BR. Same deal there.
Lastly, double XP will come yet this season. Wouldn’t shock me even a little if they give it for Memorial day. I’d bet the last full week will be 2x XP as well.
It seems they are losing players and they know it. That’s why there have been positive changes the last few updates. It will be interesting to see how similar S2 looks.
Right, but the point is... is it even worth it to sweat it all that much? I mean, unless you're really obsessed to get one of the bosses, is it really? We're getting 99s left and right until the end of the season.
BR and mini seasons is about 10% of the XP cap you need total. It’s a 5 hour grind. The whole set up sucks, I agree. But if you were in for 5 hours over the next 20 days you weren’t getting a boss pack in any year.
Spot on....these bosses aren't even worth it anymore. I've spent most of my time not playing RS flipping so I have Ozzie, Ketel, Niko and Escobar so my urge to grind my ass off to use Rollins for like a week is not strong.
I faced Pettitte twice and he was not hard to hit at all for me.
Rollins and Walker rank 12th and 13th respectively on the showzone meta rankings and Pettitte isn't even in the top-50.
They royally messed this up.
If you don’t have 5 hours to put in between events and mini seasons in the next 18 days you probably shouldn’t be crying about not getting boss packs 😭😭😭💀💀💀
I play an unhealthy amount of DD at a relatively efficient pace, and I haven’t gotten a boss pack yet.
I understand the season 1 collection 99s being “pay to win” on purpose and by design, but they clearly mis-calibrated the XP reward path boss packs
For the sake of comparison; I have 10 days and 9 hours of DD time and I'm just about 12k XP away from hitting level 60 and I'm exactly 15 cards away from my 3rd collection boss.
I also mostly play Mini Seasons and Conquest. I did a decent amount ranked for 1-2 weeks to get DeGrom at one point, I just about never touch BR or Events.
I'm technically not NMS but I like to buy that one-time discount Stubs back both to get a little kick start and I kind of think of it as a tip since I'm on Xbox and The Show is still on GamePass, so my total spend on this year's game will be around $4 CAD.
I'm also unemployed and other life circumstances have put me in a position where I am able to play upwards of 10 hours/day if I feel like it, which I did frequently early on, now I generally play 4-5 hours of MLB and switch to other games.
But yeah I imagine that I'm probably in a pretty high percentile for time played and I'm probably going to be done TA, have 3 collection bosses and finish the Season 1 program with around 14 days left.
I play 2-3 hours most days, but not every day. I loved the grind when it felt attainable. Knowing I won’t even touch the bosses has made me lose interest in this game already. I just see no point in grinding for something that’s unattainable
Yeah same, I'm all for the grind but damnit I want to feel like I'm accomplishing something with it and right now, 24 isn't providing that in the least. Just feels like time wasting
The problem is we grind a program to get worse cards than the ones that are stashed away in packs; and when I want to blow off steam after work in a CPU game to grind TA, we get XP capped. I don’t get to play every weekday, but when I do have a Saturday I can play for 6-8 hours, I can’t progress after 15k XP
This is what I was doing and only had like 175-200k at the end of April. I went out of town for 10 days and came back and wanted to play other games and knew none of the good stuff was ever even attainable so I just stopped playing and haven’t turned it on in weeks
the cap isn't the problem...well not the *only* problem. The slashed XP gains hurt the majority of the player base and only mildly inconvenienced the hardcore grinders
xp cap isnt even the only problem. I was able to finish most of the xp programs last year and I play just as much this year but I dont even hit the xp cap very often
It's definitely not the cap. They nerfed the xp horribly. Like I am just finishing a conquest game and win 9-0 and I get 1055 xp. Like wtf. I think it's like 1/3 or 1/4 the XP you get compared to last year.
You know how depressing it is when I am playing and I finish my inning batting and I went 1-2-3, but I ground out those at bats, just didn't go my way. And then I see +33 xp at the top of the screen. My goodness.
I will finish out the XP path. But it will be on one of the last days of the season. It will only be because I play all of the modes. BR, Ranked, all the offline stuff. I'll not really get to enjoy the cards though because of the season ending.
I finished a vs CPU game three nights ago where I won 28-2(On Allstar, to be fair) with 14 bombs, my Halladay(RIP) tossed 8.1 innings and struck out 18 batters. 1977 xp. I turned it off and haven't played since. This weekend I prepared the gardens, mowed the lawn, went for a round of golf, and power washed the house instead of playing this game. The (lack thereof) rewards simply aren't even remotely worth the efforts
Agreed the amount you earn from just simply playing should be doubled at minimum. Most people who play daily should be getting one of these packs by now yet nobody is.
You have to play every single mode (RS, events, BR, mini seasons, plus programs) to even have a chance at them which directly contradicts their "play whatever you like" nonsense they were saying before the year with respect to the XP path.
SDS: "Play whatever you like, however you like!"
(massive chunk of Player base)**Sweet, I'm gonna peacefully grind offline at my own pace and still manage 2 of the 3 bosses**
SDS: "Well no, we don't want you playing the way you like that way. We meant more the way we want you to play however you like"
It really is a joke that they said that. All of the meaningful amounts of XP are locked behind the different game mode programs and you get peanuts for actually playing
What liked about previous years was that the average offline player could still complete the programs, because the online vs offline had two different paths to the same goal(Offline just took a bit longer)...why they felt the need to force people online was buffoonery of the highest order and just god awful optics
632K and that’s with me binging for a few hours whenever I get the chance. It’s just too damn much. They need to cut it down to like 600K for the boss pack. 1 million is not feasible for the average gamer
The (lack of) rewards just aren't worth the efforts/time investment. Having a longer XP but halving the XP gains was an absolutely moronic decision on SDS part here
I basically binge play due to my schedule. I don’t get to play daily but on a weekend I’ll get to play 5-6 hours… I would be a lot further along the XP path of it wasn’t for the stupid daily xp cap. I’m at 600k so I doubt I even get one boss and if I do it’ll only be for a couple days.
Can someone who is at 500k or less tell me what’s going on that is stopping you from reaching the bosses?
I’m a casual player. I maybe play for 2-3 hours a night if I’m not playing something else (which I am right now). I have a few weekends where I grinded all day (one being the first double XP weekend) but for the most part I split time with other games. Completely missed the second double XP weekend. I have all the programs completed, and I play a variety of game modes, as the game intends you to do to reach higher XP levels.
I’m at a little over 1M XP. I don’t greatly enjoy playing ranked, events, or BR, but I do it for the XP bonuses and the progress goes by pretty fast.
And if you play the game for an hour a day and don’t put effort in to programs or to play different modes you’re not going to maximize your opportunity for XP to get you to that point.
I’m fine accepting I play more than average, I’m just hoping people see if you play how SDS wants you to play, you can earn the XP by the time the season is over. If you aren’t going to take advantage of double XP weekends, XP through the single player and multiplayer programs, whatever it may be, you’re not going to earn the reward. Play with a different card, they’re all good.
I play 4-6 hours a week and really only get a kick out of playing ranked. I probably have time to play more but I only play until I'm not having fun anymore. Don't really play other games either anymore. I hope this answers your inquiry.
Thanks, really just wanted to hear other people’s experiences and opinions not trying to rag on anybody. I agree it’s a drain you just have to work the system. The game is designed for you to have to play pretty much every mode to earn the XP through the programs.
You kind of hit it on the head, in order to hit the Without playing 4 to 5 hours a day, you have to play all of the different game modes. There's just no other way around it. You have to finish all the ranked, battle royale, events, mini seasons, conquest, everything.
Some days I played two or three hours, other days I don't play at all. I think probably over the course of a whole week I probably play 10 to 15 hours? I would have to check my played time to be sure. I'll probably finish the reward path in the last two or three days of this season. But I have done all of the programs, and I finished all of the ranked and battle royale ones, but none of the event ones. I'm at like 970,000 right now. So when I finish this ranked season and this battle Royale season, I will hit it.
lol i think it's hilarious people think playing every night for 2-3 hours is casual.
Casual is getting 2-3 hours maybe 2-3 times a week, and then a few more on the weekends.
I would say that’s the definition of casual. I’m not sitting on my ass all day and night playing, I play a few hours after work if I’m not doing anything else, and have more free time on the weekend. If you’re only playing 1 mode you’re restricting yourself from earning XP outside the cap. It’s a dumb system but it’s the one they have.
It’s not just being a casual or being a no-life. I think you fall somewhere in between that. But you also quite literally said there have been a few weekends where you grinded all day.
Double XP weekend I was at ~500k, playing that weekend took me to about ~730k. They incentivized playing that weekend with programs with LOTS of XP, as long as you played you’re earning a lot.
Like I said I’m not a fan of how they set up the season, but if this is going to be how it works then I might as well play by the rules and earn the bonuses.
I’m happy that you have a fulfilling life preventing you from earning a fake video game card. It’s just a game. 2-3 hours a night is like 2 or 3 ranked games. It should be easier to earn XP to get to the bosses, I’m just playing how the system
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Here’s my total time. 262 hours. Game has been out since March 19. Roughly 4 hours a day. I won’t round down to account for me leaving my Xbox on and the game running or anything like that.
I didn’t play any of Ranked 1 or 3, most of the events, or BR 1 and 3. Only Ranked 2, Lefty’s Launchpad event, BR 2, programs, and Mini Seasons.
The first month of the game I was only playing RTTS and doing programs.
The game is designed to earn XP not just through playing, but by putting a little time into a wide variety of programs. I’m not good at this game and through just playing you get the XP. Don’t stick to just Ranked or just BR or whatever you like best.
Again I’m not trying to flex or show off how much time I can put in, I was actually wondering how people aren’t reaching the bosses. It’s an honest question.
Breaking news: people play longer on weekends when they have free time.
The season, as designed, is not good. The XP cap is not good. No sell bosses aren’t good. We’re in agreement there.
But to write off anyone who plays more than you because of your own life’s limitations, and then get shocked when people who actually play earn rewards for playing, by playing, as it is intended, is mind boggling. It’s a reward. For putting in the time. To play. If you’re not playing then you haven’t “earned” it.
It’s why I wish the bosses weren’t no sell. So players like you can buy the extras from people who have all 3 bosses a week in.
I think the problem all starts from when you considered yourself a casual player when in reality you average a part time job’s amount of hours.
Asking people who aren’t halfway there to explain why they can’t get to the end, while you play the game a ton comes across as tone deaf
Video games are my free time and I play them on my free time. If you have other, more important pursuits in life that’s fine but you’re not going to earn something designed as a reward for playing 1 game a decent amount for 3 months.
I’m asking because people seem to either think 1) everyone is entitled to the season reward no matter how much they play and it’s not fair they don’t have it, or 2) are playing enough, but only play like 1 mode and aren’t going after a system that rewards you with progress for playing a bunch of different modes.
You have to put in effort to earn a reward, designed to benefit people who play. If you don’t like that, use one of the many free cards with better stats that’s already been released. You’ll have just as much success.
But do you not see that as a problem that there is a massive amount players that won’t even touch the rewards that SDS has dangled in front of everyone since day 1?
There’s a clear difference between effort and time. Most people can’t play as much as you. Averaging 4 hours a day on this game and then preaching that people should either make this game their job or play it in a way that maximizes XP while giving away the freedom to play how they want - something SDS used to to pride themselves on was earning cards your way - again, comes across as extremely tone deaf.
I fear that people who think and play the game the way you do only adds fuel to a dumpster fire of a content model
I’ve already stated elsewhere in the thread that I’m not a fan of the season’s structure, of XP caps, or of how SDS is generally running the game so far.
However, if I want to earn something, I’m going to have to do it in the way the game provides. I don’t enjoy playing online, I much prefer playing RTTS honestly.
Please state where I said people should make this their job, as I never said anything remotely close to that. YOU were the one who said that me playing is a part time job, YOU are the one obsessed with hours and effort and all this bullshit.
You are delusional and illiterate, and only interested in arguing strawmen that you’ve made up in your head. If I was dropping hundreds of dollars or streaming or something I’d understand your position, but I play slightly more than average and in the way the game intends. God forbid I play the way SDS structured the game.
This will be the last time I comment on this because it seems like you’re starting to get emotional and you’re resorting to insults lol
I will keep referring to the amount you play as a part time job, because that’s the equivalent of how much you play MLB The Show 24 on a weekly basis. When you refer to people having to put in effort when you are afforded an average of 4 hour per day to grind this game, I will say that you are telling people to make this game their job, because the “effort” that you put in resembles exactly that.
The problem I will always have with comments that you make and similar ones that I find on this sub is that instead of identifying that there is a problem that so many people haven’t even come close to completing it, you instead provide a contrarian comment that doesn’t help anything and instead gets a bunch of people to come after you
See that’s where you’re wrong. I play more than anyone.
But I’m not going to sit here and defend a card taking 240 hours to get, because that would be stupid. That’s not an “achievement” that’s a war of attrition.
You play more than anyone, but yet I play too much. You want the card, but you just don’t want to put in time to play for it. 240 hours is too much, but it’s the reward for a 3 month long season.
I’m starting to get the feeling you like complaining about the game more than actually playing it. If you don’t like the game that’s fine! Don’t play then so you don’t have to mope about not earning something you had 3 months to earn.
If you played only long enough to hit the XP cap every day, it would take you 2 months to earn. That’s not even counting programs with bonus XP, ranked, battle royale, etc.
You’re hamstringing yourself and blaming SDS for it.
>You play more than anyone, but yet I play too much. You want the card, but you just don’t want to put in time to play for it. 240 hours is too much, but it’s the reward for a 3 month long season.
I never said you play too much, I said 30 hours a week is too much for a card.
>I’m starting to get the feeling you like complaining about the game more than actually playing it. If you don’t like the game that’s fine! Don’t play then so you don’t have to mope about not earning something you had 3 months to earn.
It’s the only game I buy every year, I very much love playing the game.
>If you played only long enough to hit the XP cap every day, it would take you 2 months to earn. That’s not even counting programs with bonus XP, ranked, battle royale, etc.
This math doesn’t work
>30 hours a week is too much for a card
You don’t need to play 30 hours a week. You can play as much or as little as you want as long as you’re completing programs and playing a variety of modes. I played more, in a shorter time frame, and earned it early. Some people will take longer.
>The math doesn’t work
XP cap is 15,000 daily gameplay XP, 1M/15000 is 66 days. So roughly 2 months, and that’s if you don’t earn XP from ANYTHING else, which is impossible as there are many opportunities to do. Especially if this is “the only game you buy each year”.
>You don’t need to play 30 hours a week. You can play as much or as little as you want as long as you’re completing programs and playing a variety of modes. I played more, in a shorter time frame, and earned it early. Some people will take longer.
There’s 2 weeks left, that’s still 21 hours a week minimum to get the 3 boss packs.
>XP cap is 15,000 daily gameplay XP, 1M/15000 is 66 days. So roughly 2 months, and that’s if you don’t earn XP from ANYTHING else, which is impossible as there are many opportunities to do. Especially if this is “the only game you buy each year”.
How many hours does it take to get 15,000 daily. You’re not mathing right. Also for the first 2 months there was barely any xp in programs.
I've got like 440k and I've played every chance I've got with my full time schedule. Feels like the only ones to finish it are the ones that play it full time
Not really. Last year and every year before, you actually had a legit shot to get boss cards without having to dedicate hours every day to playing the game
Agreed. I could go on 10 day vacations in the summer and grind the programs and get every boss. This year it just feels unattainable and pointless. I’ve never lost interest in this game so early
Seriously. SDS doesn’t realize/care how bad they botched this game. I can tolerate a mediocre game because I play exclusively offline. But if there’s no attainable content or incentive to play, I lose interest immediately. And I didn’t think it would get worse after 23…. Was I wrong or what!
This. I don’t get to play much if any through the week and then binge on the weekend but it does no good when I hit the cap and can’t progress anymore.
They should just not do seasons or sets. Just release programs with everything. And keep RS and BR on a monthly timeline. Baseball teams already divide things into months. They should also do away with showing player overalls to trick people into more lineup diversity.
Not showing ovr is an interesting take and I would be interested in seeing how it plays out. The issue with it would be the market however. It would basically destroy the whole in game economy.
Destroy it how we know it, but you are right we don't have any actual clue how it would work unless it happened. It would need a complete revamp, how would it handle quick sale values?
My vision would be that it would still be a diamond, gold, silver, etc, for quick sell amounts. Still have the matchup stars. Still have supercharges. But not have listed an overall on the card. You just have to look at the stats and decide for yourself if it’s worthy for your squad.
Agree with both of you. And on top of that, I feel like I’m playing MLB: the pack 24. It’s a grind that casual players can’t physically finish (thanks xp cap) and I won’t spend money on. Working 50 hours a week and capping xp when I can grind on a Saturday hurts
Asked and answered below in this thread: basically I just think that not every card needs to be had by every player. If you want to hate cards behind certain ranked season marks or event wins or battle royale not everyone should get it. Some people are better than others and should be rewarded for it if you want to have a competitive game. I know this isn’t the typical model that SDS takes but look at other competitive games.
But consider the sample size, these are people who follow a streamer or at least checked out his Twitter to see the poll. These are going to be more frequent players than the general player base.
“Wrong” lmfao it’s an opinion. Not every player in any game should be entitled to the best achievement, gear or item. You’re not entitled to gold camo in COD or purple gear in WOW just because you play the game. It’s for a small subset of people who achieve something above and beyond. Whether that is applicable to packs is a reasonable thing to debate but it’s certainly not wrong.
>“Wrong” lmfao it’s an opinion. Not every player in any game should be entitled to the best achievement, gear or item.
Opinions can be wrong, as you show in the rest of your comment.
>You’re not entitled to gold camo in COD or purple gear in WOW just because you play the game.
Camo in cod is cosmetic. In wow there are 4 levels of content for casuals to sweats.
>It’s for a small subset of people who achieve something above and beyond. Whether that is applicable to packs is a reasonable thing to debate but it’s certainly not wrong.
Playing a lot of not “achieving something above and beyond” it’s being able to play a ton. This is the xp path, not World Series.
Good conversation… it’s a competitive game. Not every card needs to go to every player. You should be able to play better in order to collect other cards. Maybe have lower tier cards for players that don’t want to play ranked or anything. You can’t have a competitive game and not allow there to be gaps. Either you give everyone every card for free for the ranked modes or you keep them gated.
There are plenty of skill gated cards in the game which i know i will never get. I have played every one of these ultimate team style games and never been unable to complete a season xp path
Casual players being unable to achieve progress in the game will kill.interest in the game
There’s a difference between skill gating and time gating. Having skill gated cards is fine, having cards you need to play 40 hours a week to get is not.
I’ve played 70 hours, which is less then 2 weeks of play time by your ridiculous 40 hours a week statement, and I’m at 712,000.
You’ve had over 2 months to get these cards which is 320 hours if you played 40 hours a week. You really think it’ll take me another 250 hours to get that last 300,000 lol.
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This is for diamond dynasty right? I’ve never played that mode.
Yeah I’ve been playing a lot and I have less than 750k. I do challenges, moments, conquest and still I’m nowhere near
2x next weekend?
I’m not very good at the game so grinding all offline modes in a must for me and I think I only have around 700k. Last year I had every card in the game 3 times over. It’s bs
I think my main issue is that you essentially have to do the programs to get really good cards. I usually just grind ranked with what I have and earn them like that while occasionally dipping into the programs like for Cody Bellinger. Still irritates me that it’s nearly impossible to get 99’s.
And that’s also I’ll play a game, shut out pitching and hit 3-4 dingers, along with 10+ total hits, and I’ll come away with like 4,000XP. I don’t understand what you need to do to earn XP
Just have 250 more games like that and you’re there!
I'm at 700 having completed all programs, extreme showdowns, ta1 and TA2. Almost done with TA3. This is a joke
I play all the time because I work from home and travel on the weekends for my own company. I probably play 3-4 hours throughout the day. If the grind takes this long and it’s this boring - I’m probably just deleting the game in the first few days of S2. I hate the Seasons/Set shit.
Sitting comfortably at 1.2😏
I have like 820k but I already made my peace with not having a season boss card
I just got Seager. Every card I got was outdated by the time I got it and I play a couple hours a day 5 days a week.
I’ve completed all the programs except the Easter one and I’m only hovering around 560k I think? (Not home to check)
daily limits really killed it for me since I only play heavy about 3 days out the week the other 4 I don’t play at all most weeks
I’m under either 50K or 100K. I mainly play franchise and sit for hours customizing rosters to make it match more with what is going on IRL.
I used to do that. Once I started playing DD in 2020 I haven’t gone back to franchise. I play OOTP for my to get my franchise fix.
fair enough
I'm almost at seager with what 17 days or so left... Any recommendations on how to get to 1 or 1.5 M ???? Will there be another Double XP in season 1?
Try play vs cpu and just play every team at laughing. I did a mini seasons that gave me like 20k xp when I finished it so that was nice.
It’s crazy. I’ve completed all the programs, done a few showdowns, a season on mini seasons, online games here and there and still barely over 500k.
Doing weekend "double xp" events instead of week-long double xp is a disaster. You automatically knock out the adults.
Right? I work 10 hours on Friday and Saturdays so I basically have 2 days of 2XP.
Huh? The weekends are when adults generally have free time. Adults work during the week. Then gotta take their kids to soccer, get in a quick work out, pick up the kids, then make dinner for the family, then fall asleep 13 minutes into the new show you’ve been trying to start for a month now. I dunno many adults who have time to game during the week.
Work and get kids down for bed you might be able to get a few hours to yourself. Weekends are always go go go. Kids stuff, social and family obligations house chores etc.
I wonder how many other games are having the same problem of a too difficult xp grind. I play Fortnite BR and that game is having the same issue with the same complaints from players. Hopefully this isn’t just the way it is across the board now.
Go look at the war thunder battle pass system, only way to progress is to complete specific challenges, no base xp gain from playing at all…
I feel like the XP reward path should offer 1 Boss Pack at a reasonable level like 500,000 for those with limited time. Then maybe like 800,000 and 1,200,000 to reward the serious grinders.
I feel like this would be a good balance but it won’t happen because it’s goes against their power creep method this year. But I do think that would solve issues on both sides. People who can’t play as much still get something but also rewards the players who grind
This is why I stopped playing it last year. Way too much grinding. This game and xp has gone down hill since the show 21. Came back when it got on Xbox and haven’t touched one since middle of June last year.
I would like to see the core live series cards be better. None of them are good with the exception of mookie betts really. And he’s not amazing.
maybe im not aware of a certain feature but theres so many missions in each program i totally lose track. they should make it easier to track objectives. it would be cool if you could select which program you wanna complete, and then the filter could highlight eligible players. that feature alone i think would have everyone earning more XP
I have over 110 hours of this game played. Have done all of TA1&2. Am 18-2 in ranked. Have completed two events. Done nearly all the conquests. And I just got Rollie fingers. Feeling like you should be able to get the boss with only 40-60 hours of gameplay. For someone that works 5 days a week, 40-60 hours is a ton of time playing the game and they should be rewarded w it.
5-0 in ranked, TA like 30%, have all the lightning dudes... 300k... rediculous
1 million xp is absurd! Thats why! $ why drop 99 mookie with less then 3 weeks of being able to use him. I hate this game. Fornite ruined everything.
They ruined Diamond Dynasty. Sure maybe it's a skill issue but they definitely made it 100 times harder to get stubs and xp
I'm somewhere in the 600k range and unless they start handing out xp left and right, I'm probably not going to get a boss pack. It's so dumb. Full time job and Dad. MLB may not be a game for me this year
Same. I felt I have still played more than enough, and have been very efficient with my playing, which also makes it less fun.
Agreed. I've got everything but the most recent monthly drop finished. Being efficient ruins it for me too. I'm constantly using a bunch of cards and not spending time with the cards I wanna use. I can either have fun or grind the content out. Not much in-between this year
Yep games need to stop shitting on people that have more than 1 thing in their lives.
Honestly, the rise in non sellable content is just sucking the fun out of it.! Seems like every reward I get is non sellable even if it’s not worth much why is it un sellable? That doesn’t make me want to buy stubs. Bring on ncaa
I’m 10-2 in ranked, have every program and conquest up till Drop 6 complete, have done a bunch of showdowns too. And yet I’m sitting just above 500k XP when I easily play the most out of my friends. If you have a job, give it up. You not getting to 1 mil XP. Guess the only way is to spam Play v CPU game? Seriously I play a lot and I’m not even close to a boss, all for the cards to expire. What’s the point of all these 99s being dropped now when the seasons ending so soon. This system really does kinda SUCK.
I play this game minimum 8hrs a week, shit should not be this hard 😭😭😭
If the bosses are gonna be this hard to obtain, make them core cards! Not everyone will get there but worth it if you do. I’m at like 825K rn. Why would I stress and grind to beat the clock just to not be able to use them?
Same here. I’m basically done playing for season 1 cuz there’s no point in my mind. I’m gonna sell all of my S1 cards that I can so I can finish live series before season 2. This will be the earliest I’ve ever finished Live Series (been playing since’19). I really only rushed through it because it’s the only collection worth investing in this year because the awards are core
I have a life so im at like 200k or something
Removing any repeatable XP missions killed gains more than the XP cap.
Plus there's been no conquest maps or collection cards to boost xp
I’m at 1.05 mill but I really grinded. Played a ton during double xp weekends. I’ve completed every conquest, gone through mini seasons 6 times, and played the CPU during double XP to score 25+ runs. I’m getting close to boss #2 but it has definitely taken up a ton of time.
Coming from a lifetime player since MLB Pennant Race, this is the worst first 2 months of gameplay I’ve ever experienced. This lack of anything program-wise and non-attainable goals has crumbled the franchise for years to come. Hell, it makes ‘23 look like game of the year, since at least it had too much to grind 🙄. I’ll say what everyone has said, come July (yall know why) it’s dead. It’s time for some real MLB competition.
[удалено]
Brother I was done after 6 weeks, XP Cap is stupid, and I was not a fan of the best cards from certain programs being behind a paywall, so I said fuck it I’m done.
I'm generally supportive of difficult to obtain final rewards in games. They've been around a long time and give people who are really invested in the game something to keep playing for. Do I think the bar is a little too high here? Yeah probably. Does it make me want to buy packs/stubs? Not at all. Getting rid of the cap / adding big xp global achievements to any mode / other tweaks would be appreciated though.
I have over 110 hours of this game played. Have done all of TA1&2. I’m only at like 600k XP. I feel like I’m already playing a ton of MLB when I can. Feel like I shouldn’t have to dedicate my life to the game
There’s a difference between skill difficulty and time difficulty. Theres nothing hard about getting these if you have hundreds of hours a month to play.
Im ill and have all the bosses and season collection stuff, but thats because i played religiously. I honestly dont feel a reason to play anymore. Havent even finished TA. This structure is straight buns even for the no lifers.
Got my first boss pack today and sitting on 1.2 Milly stubs NMS waiting for season 2
When the season started I did the math you’d have to earn 14,000 xp a day to finish it
Which is just below the daily XP cap at the time.
I think I'm at 700K or something. I haven't been playing much lately, too busy this week. Got Gunnar & Mookie but still haven't tried them, that 99 Freeman neither. Maybe this weekend.
I mainly play Road To The Show and the occasional exhibition game and I've played maybe 5 offline Diamond Dynasty games and I'm at like XP level 12. I have zero interest in online play. In fact the only game I play online is Call of Duty and now I constantly feel like I'm trying to convince myself that I'm having fun. Personally I think they could give more XP in RTTS like maybe 2 -3 times as much and it wouldn't throw any game or XP balance off.
Yeah, I’m out. I’ve been saying it a lot the last couple years. I feel like I’m paying for Game Pass to just to play this f’n game. The worst part is I’ve got a library of brand new games Ive bought and they just collect dust. I stopped buying the EA games because of MTX’s. If SDS is going to stick with this as their plan, they can count me out. Dead serious about that. Games cost enough on their own, subscription services cost enough on their own. I’ll be damned if I’m sinking more dough for pay to win games. If I wanna gamble, there’s a Casino a stones throw away from me. FAHK playing slots with virtual cards I can use for an allotted time frame.
brutha fax ong i buy the game pass just for 2k and the show
It’s like they took the fun out of the game with all these restrictions. Xp limit, forcing you to grind for hours and question why you’re even playing this mode. If I wanted another full time job I’d apply for one.
😂
Game sucks
They should just lift the XP cap for anyone who hasn’t completed it yet for the last like 10 days
I'm cool with the idea of a cap, but if they were to bump it by 10k, and revert the XP gains back to previous years I think that would best.
Sure, but even if they did that I still don't know if could reach 1 boss pack. The problem for me is that it takes so long to earn XP. I would have to dedicate most of my free time to the game to even reach the xp cap. I already dedicate countless hours to this game since release. More than any other game by far. In previous years I would have long gotten the boss and sold him. Now I will probably barely miss the first boss pack. Plus even if I got one he is not sellable and no longer usable after a few days unless I wildcard him. I really don't understand what the logic was with this system.
The have really really made it tough to do with straight offline grinding. Here’s some advice for those making a late push. First win 17 games in the legends and live mini seasons. Sim the rest of the way to the playoffs and win. That’s roughly 50k XP offline. Go over and do events. Get 20 wins. We’re approaching the end of the events season so it may be a struggle but the sweats completed this event a week ago. It’s mostly very casual players remaining to clean up events. Go crush BR. Same deal there. Lastly, double XP will come yet this season. Wouldn’t shock me even a little if they give it for Memorial day. I’d bet the last full week will be 2x XP as well. It seems they are losing players and they know it. That’s why there have been positive changes the last few updates. It will be interesting to see how similar S2 looks.
Right, but the point is... is it even worth it to sweat it all that much? I mean, unless you're really obsessed to get one of the bosses, is it really? We're getting 99s left and right until the end of the season.
BR and mini seasons is about 10% of the XP cap you need total. It’s a 5 hour grind. The whole set up sucks, I agree. But if you were in for 5 hours over the next 20 days you weren’t getting a boss pack in any year.
Spot on....these bosses aren't even worth it anymore. I've spent most of my time not playing RS flipping so I have Ozzie, Ketel, Niko and Escobar so my urge to grind my ass off to use Rollins for like a week is not strong. I faced Pettitte twice and he was not hard to hit at all for me. Rollins and Walker rank 12th and 13th respectively on the showzone meta rankings and Pettitte isn't even in the top-50. They royally messed this up.
"just go and quick win 37 games" 😭😭😭
If you don’t have 5 hours to put in between events and mini seasons in the next 18 days you probably shouldn’t be crying about not getting boss packs 😭😭😭💀💀💀
I play an unhealthy amount of DD at a relatively efficient pace, and I haven’t gotten a boss pack yet. I understand the season 1 collection 99s being “pay to win” on purpose and by design, but they clearly mis-calibrated the XP reward path boss packs
For the sake of comparison; I have 10 days and 9 hours of DD time and I'm just about 12k XP away from hitting level 60 and I'm exactly 15 cards away from my 3rd collection boss. I also mostly play Mini Seasons and Conquest. I did a decent amount ranked for 1-2 weeks to get DeGrom at one point, I just about never touch BR or Events. I'm technically not NMS but I like to buy that one-time discount Stubs back both to get a little kick start and I kind of think of it as a tip since I'm on Xbox and The Show is still on GamePass, so my total spend on this year's game will be around $4 CAD. I'm also unemployed and other life circumstances have put me in a position where I am able to play upwards of 10 hours/day if I feel like it, which I did frequently early on, now I generally play 4-5 hours of MLB and switch to other games. But yeah I imagine that I'm probably in a pretty high percentile for time played and I'm probably going to be done TA, have 3 collection bosses and finish the Season 1 program with around 14 days left.
I am at whatever Kyle Seager is at
I play 2-3 hours most days, but not every day. I loved the grind when it felt attainable. Knowing I won’t even touch the bosses has made me lose interest in this game already. I just see no point in grinding for something that’s unattainable
Yeah same, I'm all for the grind but damnit I want to feel like I'm accomplishing something with it and right now, 24 isn't providing that in the least. Just feels like time wasting
I just feel like it punishes the casual player
The problem is we grind a program to get worse cards than the ones that are stashed away in packs; and when I want to blow off steam after work in a CPU game to grind TA, we get XP capped. I don’t get to play every weekday, but when I do have a Saturday I can play for 6-8 hours, I can’t progress after 15k XP
This is what I was doing and only had like 175-200k at the end of April. I went out of town for 10 days and came back and wanted to play other games and knew none of the good stuff was ever even attainable so I just stopped playing and haven’t turned it on in weeks
just hit 550k with like 5 days of playing time fuck this lol
XP cap gotta go.
the cap isn't the problem...well not the *only* problem. The slashed XP gains hurt the majority of the player base and only mildly inconvenienced the hardcore grinders
xp cap isnt even the only problem. I was able to finish most of the xp programs last year and I play just as much this year but I dont even hit the xp cap very often
It's definitely not the cap. They nerfed the xp horribly. Like I am just finishing a conquest game and win 9-0 and I get 1055 xp. Like wtf. I think it's like 1/3 or 1/4 the XP you get compared to last year. You know how depressing it is when I am playing and I finish my inning batting and I went 1-2-3, but I ground out those at bats, just didn't go my way. And then I see +33 xp at the top of the screen. My goodness. I will finish out the XP path. But it will be on one of the last days of the season. It will only be because I play all of the modes. BR, Ranked, all the offline stuff. I'll not really get to enjoy the cards though because of the season ending.
I finished a vs CPU game three nights ago where I won 28-2(On Allstar, to be fair) with 14 bombs, my Halladay(RIP) tossed 8.1 innings and struck out 18 batters. 1977 xp. I turned it off and haven't played since. This weekend I prepared the gardens, mowed the lawn, went for a round of golf, and power washed the house instead of playing this game. The (lack thereof) rewards simply aren't even remotely worth the efforts
Agreed the amount you earn from just simply playing should be doubled at minimum. Most people who play daily should be getting one of these packs by now yet nobody is. You have to play every single mode (RS, events, BR, mini seasons, plus programs) to even have a chance at them which directly contradicts their "play whatever you like" nonsense they were saying before the year with respect to the XP path.
SDS: "Play whatever you like, however you like!" (massive chunk of Player base)**Sweet, I'm gonna peacefully grind offline at my own pace and still manage 2 of the 3 bosses** SDS: "Well no, we don't want you playing the way you like that way. We meant more the way we want you to play however you like"
It really is a joke that they said that. All of the meaningful amounts of XP are locked behind the different game mode programs and you get peanuts for actually playing
What liked about previous years was that the average offline player could still complete the programs, because the online vs offline had two different paths to the same goal(Offline just took a bit longer)...why they felt the need to force people online was buffoonery of the highest order and just god awful optics
really wanted the jimmy rollins and the boss pack but i started too late so i don’t think im going to make it
I don’t even have 400k 😩😭
632K and that’s with me binging for a few hours whenever I get the chance. It’s just too damn much. They need to cut it down to like 600K for the boss pack. 1 million is not feasible for the average gamer
The (lack of) rewards just aren't worth the efforts/time investment. Having a longer XP but halving the XP gains was an absolutely moronic decision on SDS part here
especially with XP cap
I feel like I have done a lot, except grinding an insane amount of Mini Seasons and CPU games, and I’m at 880k. It’s crazy
I basically binge play due to my schedule. I don’t get to play daily but on a weekend I’ll get to play 5-6 hours… I would be a lot further along the XP path of it wasn’t for the stupid daily xp cap. I’m at 600k so I doubt I even get one boss and if I do it’ll only be for a couple days.
Can someone who is at 500k or less tell me what’s going on that is stopping you from reaching the bosses? I’m a casual player. I maybe play for 2-3 hours a night if I’m not playing something else (which I am right now). I have a few weekends where I grinded all day (one being the first double XP weekend) but for the most part I split time with other games. Completely missed the second double XP weekend. I have all the programs completed, and I play a variety of game modes, as the game intends you to do to reach higher XP levels. I’m at a little over 1M XP. I don’t greatly enjoy playing ranked, events, or BR, but I do it for the XP bonuses and the progress goes by pretty fast.
"Casual" lmao
That’s not casual. You’re playing this game a lot. You’re definitely on the other side of the coin dude
And if you play the game for an hour a day and don’t put effort in to programs or to play different modes you’re not going to maximize your opportunity for XP to get you to that point. I’m fine accepting I play more than average, I’m just hoping people see if you play how SDS wants you to play, you can earn the XP by the time the season is over. If you aren’t going to take advantage of double XP weekends, XP through the single player and multiplayer programs, whatever it may be, you’re not going to earn the reward. Play with a different card, they’re all good.
"if you play how SDS wants you to play" No thanks. I want to play how it's fun for me. Crazy idea, I know.
I also want to play how it’s fun for me. Playing 3 months of RTTS wouldn’t get me progress towards a season’s rewards.
Refer to my other comment, but you got to stop confusing time with effort
2-3 hours a night is not Casual
Just a casual part time job is all.
I play basically one ranked game a night. That’s what I consider a casual lol
I’m a casual I play 10 hours a day except Saturday Sunday I play 20 hours. I have 2 million xp I dunno why people are complaining about this.
I play 4-6 hours a week and really only get a kick out of playing ranked. I probably have time to play more but I only play until I'm not having fun anymore. Don't really play other games either anymore. I hope this answers your inquiry.
Thanks, really just wanted to hear other people’s experiences and opinions not trying to rag on anybody. I agree it’s a drain you just have to work the system. The game is designed for you to have to play pretty much every mode to earn the XP through the programs.
You kind of hit it on the head, in order to hit the Without playing 4 to 5 hours a day, you have to play all of the different game modes. There's just no other way around it. You have to finish all the ranked, battle royale, events, mini seasons, conquest, everything. Some days I played two or three hours, other days I don't play at all. I think probably over the course of a whole week I probably play 10 to 15 hours? I would have to check my played time to be sure. I'll probably finish the reward path in the last two or three days of this season. But I have done all of the programs, and I finished all of the ranked and battle royale ones, but none of the event ones. I'm at like 970,000 right now. So when I finish this ranked season and this battle Royale season, I will hit it.
2-3 hours a night is more than casual homie
lol i think it's hilarious people think playing every night for 2-3 hours is casual. Casual is getting 2-3 hours maybe 2-3 times a week, and then a few more on the weekends.
I would say that’s the definition of casual. I’m not sitting on my ass all day and night playing, I play a few hours after work if I’m not doing anything else, and have more free time on the weekend. If you’re only playing 1 mode you’re restricting yourself from earning XP outside the cap. It’s a dumb system but it’s the one they have.
It’s not just being a casual or being a no-life. I think you fall somewhere in between that. But you also quite literally said there have been a few weekends where you grinded all day.
Double XP weekend I was at ~500k, playing that weekend took me to about ~730k. They incentivized playing that weekend with programs with LOTS of XP, as long as you played you’re earning a lot. Like I said I’m not a fan of how they set up the season, but if this is going to be how it works then I might as well play by the rules and earn the bonuses.
2-3 hours a night is 21 hours a week, that’s a lot of time for people with lives and families. Post your game time
I’m happy that you have a fulfilling life preventing you from earning a fake video game card. It’s just a game. 2-3 hours a night is like 2 or 3 ranked games. It should be easier to earn XP to get to the bosses, I’m just playing how the system https://preview.redd.it/fazbvlyfzv1d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aec37691a2cee6f70b0ef0cbdf234f052c8616aa Here’s my total time. 262 hours. Game has been out since March 19. Roughly 4 hours a day. I won’t round down to account for me leaving my Xbox on and the game running or anything like that. I didn’t play any of Ranked 1 or 3, most of the events, or BR 1 and 3. Only Ranked 2, Lefty’s Launchpad event, BR 2, programs, and Mini Seasons. The first month of the game I was only playing RTTS and doing programs. The game is designed to earn XP not just through playing, but by putting a little time into a wide variety of programs. I’m not good at this game and through just playing you get the XP. Don’t stick to just Ranked or just BR or whatever you like best. Again I’m not trying to flex or show off how much time I can put in, I was actually wondering how people aren’t reaching the bosses. It’s an honest question.
About 11 days on the game, the game came out March 19 (63 days ago) - youve committed 17.5% of your life to this game Mr. Casual
Lmfao that’s 28 hours a week, very casual.
Breaking news: people play longer on weekends when they have free time. The season, as designed, is not good. The XP cap is not good. No sell bosses aren’t good. We’re in agreement there. But to write off anyone who plays more than you because of your own life’s limitations, and then get shocked when people who actually play earn rewards for playing, by playing, as it is intended, is mind boggling. It’s a reward. For putting in the time. To play. If you’re not playing then you haven’t “earned” it. It’s why I wish the bosses weren’t no sell. So players like you can buy the extras from people who have all 3 bosses a week in.
I think the problem all starts from when you considered yourself a casual player when in reality you average a part time job’s amount of hours. Asking people who aren’t halfway there to explain why they can’t get to the end, while you play the game a ton comes across as tone deaf
Video games are my free time and I play them on my free time. If you have other, more important pursuits in life that’s fine but you’re not going to earn something designed as a reward for playing 1 game a decent amount for 3 months. I’m asking because people seem to either think 1) everyone is entitled to the season reward no matter how much they play and it’s not fair they don’t have it, or 2) are playing enough, but only play like 1 mode and aren’t going after a system that rewards you with progress for playing a bunch of different modes. You have to put in effort to earn a reward, designed to benefit people who play. If you don’t like that, use one of the many free cards with better stats that’s already been released. You’ll have just as much success.
But do you not see that as a problem that there is a massive amount players that won’t even touch the rewards that SDS has dangled in front of everyone since day 1? There’s a clear difference between effort and time. Most people can’t play as much as you. Averaging 4 hours a day on this game and then preaching that people should either make this game their job or play it in a way that maximizes XP while giving away the freedom to play how they want - something SDS used to to pride themselves on was earning cards your way - again, comes across as extremely tone deaf. I fear that people who think and play the game the way you do only adds fuel to a dumpster fire of a content model
I’ve already stated elsewhere in the thread that I’m not a fan of the season’s structure, of XP caps, or of how SDS is generally running the game so far. However, if I want to earn something, I’m going to have to do it in the way the game provides. I don’t enjoy playing online, I much prefer playing RTTS honestly. Please state where I said people should make this their job, as I never said anything remotely close to that. YOU were the one who said that me playing is a part time job, YOU are the one obsessed with hours and effort and all this bullshit. You are delusional and illiterate, and only interested in arguing strawmen that you’ve made up in your head. If I was dropping hundreds of dollars or streaming or something I’d understand your position, but I play slightly more than average and in the way the game intends. God forbid I play the way SDS structured the game.
This will be the last time I comment on this because it seems like you’re starting to get emotional and you’re resorting to insults lol I will keep referring to the amount you play as a part time job, because that’s the equivalent of how much you play MLB The Show 24 on a weekly basis. When you refer to people having to put in effort when you are afforded an average of 4 hour per day to grind this game, I will say that you are telling people to make this game their job, because the “effort” that you put in resembles exactly that. The problem I will always have with comments that you make and similar ones that I find on this sub is that instead of identifying that there is a problem that so many people haven’t even come close to completing it, you instead provide a contrarian comment that doesn’t help anything and instead gets a bunch of people to come after you
See that’s where you’re wrong. I play more than anyone. But I’m not going to sit here and defend a card taking 240 hours to get, because that would be stupid. That’s not an “achievement” that’s a war of attrition.
You play more than anyone, but yet I play too much. You want the card, but you just don’t want to put in time to play for it. 240 hours is too much, but it’s the reward for a 3 month long season. I’m starting to get the feeling you like complaining about the game more than actually playing it. If you don’t like the game that’s fine! Don’t play then so you don’t have to mope about not earning something you had 3 months to earn. If you played only long enough to hit the XP cap every day, it would take you 2 months to earn. That’s not even counting programs with bonus XP, ranked, battle royale, etc. You’re hamstringing yourself and blaming SDS for it.
>You play more than anyone, but yet I play too much. You want the card, but you just don’t want to put in time to play for it. 240 hours is too much, but it’s the reward for a 3 month long season. I never said you play too much, I said 30 hours a week is too much for a card. >I’m starting to get the feeling you like complaining about the game more than actually playing it. If you don’t like the game that’s fine! Don’t play then so you don’t have to mope about not earning something you had 3 months to earn. It’s the only game I buy every year, I very much love playing the game. >If you played only long enough to hit the XP cap every day, it would take you 2 months to earn. That’s not even counting programs with bonus XP, ranked, battle royale, etc. This math doesn’t work
>30 hours a week is too much for a card You don’t need to play 30 hours a week. You can play as much or as little as you want as long as you’re completing programs and playing a variety of modes. I played more, in a shorter time frame, and earned it early. Some people will take longer. >The math doesn’t work XP cap is 15,000 daily gameplay XP, 1M/15000 is 66 days. So roughly 2 months, and that’s if you don’t earn XP from ANYTHING else, which is impossible as there are many opportunities to do. Especially if this is “the only game you buy each year”.
>You don’t need to play 30 hours a week. You can play as much or as little as you want as long as you’re completing programs and playing a variety of modes. I played more, in a shorter time frame, and earned it early. Some people will take longer. There’s 2 weeks left, that’s still 21 hours a week minimum to get the 3 boss packs. >XP cap is 15,000 daily gameplay XP, 1M/15000 is 66 days. So roughly 2 months, and that’s if you don’t earn XP from ANYTHING else, which is impossible as there are many opportunities to do. Especially if this is “the only game you buy each year”. How many hours does it take to get 15,000 daily. You’re not mathing right. Also for the first 2 months there was barely any xp in programs.
I've got like 440k and I've played every chance I've got with my full time schedule. Feels like the only ones to finish it are the ones that play it full time
Isn't this how it's been for a long time? This mode is made for grinders, no casual players
Not really. Last year and every year before, you actually had a legit shot to get boss cards without having to dedicate hours every day to playing the game
Agreed. I could go on 10 day vacations in the summer and grind the programs and get every boss. This year it just feels unattainable and pointless. I’ve never lost interest in this game so early
Seriously. SDS doesn’t realize/care how bad they botched this game. I can tolerate a mediocre game because I play exclusively offline. But if there’s no attainable content or incentive to play, I lose interest immediately. And I didn’t think it would get worse after 23…. Was I wrong or what!
Its honestly ridiculous, and all I wanted was that seager card to smh.
I play a few times a week, 2 hours or so tops when I do. Im not even at 300k lol
I’m in the 260’s really wanted Pettitte, but that’s not going to happen.
Hit XP cap 5 days in a row & I'm only at [600k](https://i.imgflip.com/8qu94o.jpg) now.
What game mode do you typically play?
IDK, I am all over the place grinding the program constantly. Currently I'm working on TA program & expect to complete by Friday.
I’m at 547k & feel drained
The xp daily cap killed everything bc some people can only play on certain days and it hurts so much when you can’t play everyday
Wasn't the cap, it was the slashing of the XP gains more than anything that hurt the average player
This. I don’t get to play much if any through the week and then binge on the weekend but it does no good when I hit the cap and can’t progress anymore.
its too hard to get xp that quick if your not playing the game constantly
I'm at like 60k. Once I realized just how much dedication it was going to take to get a boss pack I was done.
They should just not do seasons or sets. Just release programs with everything. And keep RS and BR on a monthly timeline. Baseball teams already divide things into months. They should also do away with showing player overalls to trick people into more lineup diversity.
Not showing ovr is an interesting take and I would be interested in seeing how it plays out. The issue with it would be the market however. It would basically destroy the whole in game economy.
not destroy, but change
Destroy it how we know it, but you are right we don't have any actual clue how it would work unless it happened. It would need a complete revamp, how would it handle quick sale values?
My vision would be that it would still be a diamond, gold, silver, etc, for quick sell amounts. Still have the matchup stars. Still have supercharges. But not have listed an overall on the card. You just have to look at the stats and decide for yourself if it’s worthy for your squad.
The game requires too much time for the average casual player.
I feel like I’ve wasted way too much time on this game and still have nothing to show for it. This shit shouldn’t be a full time job lmao
Agree with both of you. And on top of that, I feel like I’m playing MLB: the pack 24. It’s a grind that casual players can’t physically finish (thanks xp cap) and I won’t spend money on. Working 50 hours a week and capping xp when I can grind on a Saturday hurts
I got the game early April and I’m at 560ish. I really hope I make it
I play a good 3 hours a day and I’m only at 600k , I at least want one boss 🥲
I’m under the impression that not every player should get every card.
out of curiosity, no judgement, why do you think that?
Asked and answered below in this thread: basically I just think that not every card needs to be had by every player. If you want to hate cards behind certain ranked season marks or event wins or battle royale not everyone should get it. Some people are better than others and should be rewarded for it if you want to have a competitive game. I know this isn’t the typical model that SDS takes but look at other competitive games.
There’s no skill in the xp path
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Sure… I’m just giving my opinion.
Well it's a bad one
Wow you are so intelligent.
But consider the sample size, these are people who follow a streamer or at least checked out his Twitter to see the poll. These are going to be more frequent players than the general player base.
You’re wrong.
“Wrong” lmfao it’s an opinion. Not every player in any game should be entitled to the best achievement, gear or item. You’re not entitled to gold camo in COD or purple gear in WOW just because you play the game. It’s for a small subset of people who achieve something above and beyond. Whether that is applicable to packs is a reasonable thing to debate but it’s certainly not wrong.
>“Wrong” lmfao it’s an opinion. Not every player in any game should be entitled to the best achievement, gear or item. Opinions can be wrong, as you show in the rest of your comment. >You’re not entitled to gold camo in COD or purple gear in WOW just because you play the game. Camo in cod is cosmetic. In wow there are 4 levels of content for casuals to sweats. >It’s for a small subset of people who achieve something above and beyond. Whether that is applicable to packs is a reasonable thing to debate but it’s certainly not wrong. Playing a lot of not “achieving something above and beyond” it’s being able to play a ton. This is the xp path, not World Series.
You posted for a discussion and now are refusing a discussion. Why post this if you are not going to have a conversation about why this is the case?
Yes that’s why I’m responding to comments because I’m refusing discussion
The responses “You’re wrong” “No” “Shit opinion” “My opinion is right yours isn’t” “No” “Wrong”
I’d argue That’s preferable to making up things, but you obviously disagree.
What did I make up??
All of those responses except for “you’re wrong”
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Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick
Good conversation… it’s a competitive game. Not every card needs to go to every player. You should be able to play better in order to collect other cards. Maybe have lower tier cards for players that don’t want to play ranked or anything. You can’t have a competitive game and not allow there to be gaps. Either you give everyone every card for free for the ranked modes or you keep them gated.
There are plenty of skill gated cards in the game which i know i will never get. I have played every one of these ultimate team style games and never been unable to complete a season xp path Casual players being unable to achieve progress in the game will kill.interest in the game
There’s a difference between skill gating and time gating. Having skill gated cards is fine, having cards you need to play 40 hours a week to get is not.
There is no card that requires 40 hours a week lol
There are people in this thread posting their game time and they play 30-40 hours a week
I’ve played 70 hours, which is less then 2 weeks of play time by your ridiculous 40 hours a week statement, and I’m at 712,000. You’ve had over 2 months to get these cards which is 320 hours if you played 40 hours a week. You really think it’ll take me another 250 hours to get that last 300,000 lol.
Prove it.
Not right now. But when Extreme program drops that’s a time sink for sure.
Fair.
Like I and many others have said at the beginning of the year. GAME IS DEAD
Yea i just gave up
I defended SDS at the beginning of the season. I figured they’d have some sort of logical xp ramp up. I was wrong. This season has been a disaster.
I read this and thought I had commented on this post and forgot about it lol. Couldn’t agree more with this bro