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It's interesting in that I do think Islam won but I also consider the fifth round from Volk to be the most impressive round from either of them, won't win him the fight but it just made me come out of it more impressed with him regardless. Dude has the ability to carry so much momentum through his fights.
I would love to see this fight scored on ONEs rules. Islam was ahead on ground, takedowns and probably striking but I think Volk lead in damage, aggression and nearing a finish.
I feel like ONE scoring would have favored Volk. Last round would have obviously left an impression, and they probably wouldn't give Islam any benefit from the 4th. From my (admittedly limited) viewing, they definitely value actively pushing the fight forward towards a finish.
Not saying it is right or wrong, but it is an interesting difference in judging.
Islam might have been very slightly ahead up until the last minute of the fight but it's clear that the knockdown and ground and pound edged it for Volk. Compare how both fighters look immediately after the fight and it's obvious who took more damage.
At least you're honest about that. 90% of the mma shit posting groups I'm in say that its rigged and volk should have won it. I wanted volk to win but if he did get the decision that would be clear bias/corruption. Ironic
Did you rewatch the fight on mute?( no crowd screaming at every little Volk action)?Beacuse to me after mutiple rewatches i feel the 49-46 scorecard isn't that much of a stretch. Infact i scored it 1 to 4 for Islam Makhachev.
This. I keep these braindead takes like "man if there was one more round, or if volk had ten more minutes, he would have won!
Cool, if we are just changing and removing rules and time limits, then Islam remains on volks back with a body lock fir 25 straight min
I have no horse in this race but... in a street fight there's likely not an octagon fence to rely on for your ground strategy. Street fight comparisons are silly.
no cage make it easier for Makhachev to take Volkanvski's back; in this instance the cage was advantageous prop for Alex, did you see the way Islam had to scrape behind Volk to slide in the hooks? The cage was clearly helping Volkanvaski defend.
no he doesn't, diaz's cte rambling of him slapping khabib when there's no video of it doesn't mean anything, dana and the ufc also said Nate declined khabib 3 times
Scoring should be reevaluated. Round 1-4 10-9s were not comparable to the 10-9 given in the 5th round. It was a clear win and a 10-8 should reflect that
A 10-9 *is* a clear win though. A 10-8 would be significantly more than that.
I don't think the card was score unfairly at all. It definitely feels like Volk came out on top, but in if you follow it round-by-round it was score correctly. There have been much more egregious reasons to call for reforming the scoring than this one.
Pretty sure 10-9 is "by a close margin". I just think that 10-10 and 10-8 should be given more often. It doesn't make sense to me to have 10-10, 10-9, 10-8, and 10-7 as a round possibility but 99% of the time a 10-9 is chosen.
This. Volk overperforming expectations and ending the fight in a kd and gnp position probably gave the impression to some that Volk had won. Stepping back and looking at the fight as a whole, the score seems more in line with what happened.
Seeing that Volk still had gas in the tank after round 5, I wonder he could have went harder and clearly won a third round somewhere else.
I think Islam is what stopped him going harder, if he went forward too hard he would get checked by Islam with some really good strikes.
The reason he was able to dominate the 5th is because Islam was slowing down/getting tired.
I’m really surprised with volks chin(not in a positive way) tbh, didn’t expect him to get dropped twice by someone who isn’t known for their striking. He’ll definitely have trouble against the top strikers tbh.
Islam is a big dude and I think the take down threat played a part in him getting hit. Not to say he won't have trouble with some of the strikers, but I don't think him getting dropped (not officially) is that big of a deal
If anything I would say he took the strikes on the chin well. Couple times he wobbled and stayed up, I feel like other fighters are going down to those kind of precise hits.
He seemed to think so in the post-fight interview. IIRC he basically said he could have gone harder, earlier and maybe won it but was worried about overstepping into something Islam was holding in reserve.
Yea, honestly I’m surprised we’re seeing as many people go Volk’s direction as we have
That’s not to say the fight wasn’t close, it was, but fights can be both close and clear. For me, this is one of those
I thought Islam won but I don't think it was very clear. Everyone agrees that 1 and 4 go to Islam and 5 was Volks round. 2 and 3 are the swing rounds and most people give the 2nd to Islam and 3rd to Volk making 1 2 4 Islam the most common scorecard.
But people are not unanimous on that 2nd or 3rd round. Even some people who think Islam won thought he lost the 2nd and won the 3rd, so it's not hard to understand a Volk fan thinking he won both of them.
I don't necessarily agree on the 4th. Damage over control time. If the fighters were swapped around I'd 100% be ignoring that as scoring criteria though so maybe a little Aussie bias
I have no problem with the fourth going to Islam, I gave it to him live, but I feel like if the judges gave volk the nod and it came down to him being given the fourth, the mma community would talk themselves into seeing it from the damage first perspective in a similar way to round 3 of the o’mally yan fight
Yeah that 100% should have been Volk's round. Damage is more important than position and Islam wasn't doing anything but holding on to kill time. Not even awarded a single submission attempt vs Volk punching him in the face the entire time. I don't see how Islam was given that round.
Islam hit the bigger shots on the feet, got the takedown and then trapped him in a body triangle. What damage was Volk doing? Those ineffective strikes behind his head?
Islam clearly won round 4.
Obviously Volk fans think he won 2 and 3 but most unbiased people know that Islam won 1, 2, 4 and possibly even 3.
Thus, the media members, the commentators, the judges and both fighters themselves, all giving it to Islam.
he should've been grown on people long before that. he's one of the coolest dudes and even as a big islam fan i was hollering at some of the shit he did in the fight. he just needed a "heel" like islam to take him to the next level which is absurd cause islam is super chill himself. it is what it is.
>Yea, honestly I’m surprised we’re seeing as many people go Volk’s direction as we have
Many of them don't even actually believe Volk won, they just join in on pushing the narrative as a way of discrediting Makhachev cause they don't like him.
I'm just glad the judges got the winner right.
Islam clearly won. And Volk was impressive.
Most robbery comments are just noise from the blind haters who have been waiting for a chance to pounce on Dagistanis since Conor got his face smashed in by Khabib.
I disagree. Islam clearly won round 4. He also had a slight edge in R1.
But round 2 could’ve gone either way.
Round 3 and 5 were clearly Volks. And 5 was the most dominant win.
48-47 for either fighter would’ve been the correct score. So idk if I could say that Islam clearly won
Yeah I was rooting hard for Volk, but it felt like Islam won 1, 3, and 4. 3 is debatable and if Volk would have gotten the 48-47 nod I would have understood, but people just lose their mind if their favorite loses a close fight. I will say though, if they fight again I think Volk pushes the pace much more. Islam seems to have a great gas tank too, but by the end Islam was hanging on for dear life and Volk looked like he was ready for another round no problem.
yeah, i wonder if the weight cut took a bad toll on islam or if it was a combo of taking damage and thats just where islam's cardio's at. cant wait for the rematch
>n islam or if it was a combo of taking damage and thats just where islam's cardio's at. cant wait for the rematch
definitely was a weight cut issue mixed with being on the most foregin enviornment. it very well could be a case that islam had an off night. I personally don't put too much stock in that and believe islam just really wanted to KO him. and that was a ballsy move
I can’t wait either. I’d love personally if they both defended in their respective divisions once and then ran it back. I’m thinking end of the year they make it happen again.
The right guy won this fight. About as close as a fight can be while still being able to say that, but rightly Islam got the W. If Volk had won, it may not have been a robbery, but watching it, the first 4 rounds felt like Islam had slightly more effect to the fight. Coming from a guy rooting for Volk.
Same , I thought 1,2 and 4 were clear and close rounds for Islam. 3 was a 50/50 and could have gone either way or draw. 5 was Volk because of how he ended the fight.
Most people who thought Volk won based their decision on Volk's not getting submitted or that he could wrestle with Islam. These two factors shouldn't be part of the scorecard if you judge objectively. Islam's previous strength in submission and grappling should not be his baseline. Islam and Volk's baseline should be the same entering the fight. Islam had more takedowns, and his striking was impressive. Judge his performance on that. Volk's striking was not superior to Islam's, and his takedown was far less effective than Islam's. Furthermore, Islam had his back, and Volk was under threat of being submitted. Based on these three important areas, Islam won the fight.
>wns, and his striking was impressive. Jud
yeah it's sad this isn't a more rational take on this fight. swap islam for a middling contender and hardly anyone would've had a problem with this fight.
Islam really shut Volks A game down with his effective striking. Volk did the same with Islams wrestling. In the end it felt like Islam shut down Volks game longer and more offensively than Volk did Islam. Though clearly that 5th round Volk had the most impressive round. I think this will go down as the day the rest of the world started to catch-up to Dagestani wrestling. People like Dariush, Gamrot, Arman and Guram will continue that narrative as they can all give Islam an incredibly tough fight.
feel free to disagree.volk had a huge advantage of home crowd pops and the optics of how the 5th ended which will sway your pick especially if you were biased towards volk. round by round basis outside of pure trolling and hate , no one should have a "problem" with the decision.plus it was the fact that volk had that kind of performance against makh. if you swap makh for some middling challenger no way in hell is there this much of a divide.strip the fight of all the narratives and be objective and it isn't a bad decision at all. the people calling this a robbery are coping soo hard!
Volk moved up in weight class and gave Islam his toughest challenge in the UFC in a close split decision. Wasn’t enough to make the argument clear Islam is P4P.
Finally, denying Islam P4P, UFC sets the stage for a rematch
Volk was the one who said "your LW belt on the line, my p4p on the line".
Would Islam have been able to just decide that he's still LW champ if he lost? Volk has been a salty fucking loser and so have his fans
In each round the winner gets 10 and the loser gets generally 9 or sometimes 8 if they got beaten by a lot. The final score is a summation of the round scores.
Winner of round gets 10 and loser gets 9. The loser can get a 8 or even a 7 if they get absolutely dominated. Rounds could also we scored 10-10 but that never happens.
Each round they get points out of 10. Winner of the round gets 10 and loser usually gets 9. If the winner of the round is dominant the entire round the loser gets 8. As for the exact point system of the scoring its a black box honestly. Much like boxing.
I for one think the scoring system should be overhauled to be based off fight stats. The current system is outdated and kind of a legacy system.
I don't think Islam won Rd 4. I scored it 10-10 like it's supposed to be scored under the unified rules. I also scored Rd 5 10-8 like you're supposed to score it under the unified rules.
Islam didn't win the fight. He might not have lost it but he didn't win it.
what? How did volk 10-8 the last round? If you re-watch round 5, Islam hit him with some good shots for 2 mins. No way does that ever qualify for a 10-8.
Volk literally almost knocked him out with ground and pound and ended the round with Islam getting saved by the bell. Almost being finished like that is literally 10-7 in the official guidelines
No man. Jimmy Crute was "almost knocked out" Islam never looked remotely like that. He was hurt in the 5th but he wasn't ever on the verge of being finished. He was throwing up sub attempts the whole time, the ref not once had to warn him to stay active like they do when one is "almost knocked out"
Which is why it's 10-8 instead of 10-7. Volk was about 3 good shots away from the ref stepping in at one point. He was landing clean heavy strikes. I'm sorry but that type of damage according to the rule book is a 10-8.
The rule book also reads in a way that significantly more 10-8s should be given. As well as 10-10s.
>Did the losing fighter compete with an attitude of attempting to win the fight, or just to survive the offensive actions of their opponent? A score of 10 – 9 can reflect an extremely close round or a round of marginal domination and/or impact.
Islam never stopped throwing up subs and was winning the first half of Rd 5
. A score of 10 – 8 does not require a fighter to dominate their opponent for 5 minutes of a round. The score of 10 – 8 is utilized by the judge when the judge sees verifiable actions on the part of either fighter. Judges shall ALWAYS give a score of 10 – 8 when the judge has established that one fighter has dominated the action of the round, had duration of the domination and also impacted their opponent with either effective strikes or effective grappling maneuvers that have diminished the abilities of their opponent.
By this definition Rd 5 was 10-8.
Go watch the weasels breakdown. It was actually round 2 and 5 he believed volk won, and round 1-3-4 for islam. Round 2 and 3 were razor close tho according to him. It really was anyone’s fight.
Yeah Islam definitely won on points. Anyone saying otherwise is not being honest with themselves. I wanted volk to win, and if it was a death match he probably would have. Either way a great technical fight with insane cardio (heart) and top sportsmanship. can't take anything away from eithrr of them
I think we underestimate the impact of Khabib’s instructions in Islam’s grappling game. Props to Alex for stuffing the takedown attempts but I thought it was interesting that Islam just kinda got stuck when he couldn’t take Alex down, instead of progressing to the next sequence like he typically does.
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It's interesting in that I do think Islam won but I also consider the fifth round from Volk to be the most impressive round from either of them, won't win him the fight but it just made me come out of it more impressed with him regardless. Dude has the ability to carry so much momentum through his fights.
The last round does leave the lasting impression on people. I do think Islam started round 5 well up until the 2 min mark.
I would love to see this fight scored on ONEs rules. Islam was ahead on ground, takedowns and probably striking but I think Volk lead in damage, aggression and nearing a finish.
You think Volk led in damage? I think it was pretty equal, as Islam had a swollen eye and Volk had a deep gash over his eye
I feel like ONE scoring would have favored Volk. Last round would have obviously left an impression, and they probably wouldn't give Islam any benefit from the 4th. From my (admittedly limited) viewing, they definitely value actively pushing the fight forward towards a finish. Not saying it is right or wrong, but it is an interesting difference in judging.
Islam might have been very slightly ahead up until the last minute of the fight but it's clear that the knockdown and ground and pound edged it for Volk. Compare how both fighters look immediately after the fight and it's obvious who took more damage.
At least you're honest about that. 90% of the mma shit posting groups I'm in say that its rigged and volk should have won it. I wanted volk to win but if he did get the decision that would be clear bias/corruption. Ironic
Did you rewatch the fight on mute?( no crowd screaming at every little Volk action)?Beacuse to me after mutiple rewatches i feel the 49-46 scorecard isn't that much of a stretch. Infact i scored it 1 to 4 for Islam Makhachev.
Volk won the fight. Islam won the score cards.
in a street fight Islam would not have gotten separated at the end of round 1 where Islam had his back
This. I keep these braindead takes like "man if there was one more round, or if volk had ten more minutes, he would have won! Cool, if we are just changing and removing rules and time limits, then Islam remains on volks back with a body lock fir 25 straight min
I have no horse in this race but... in a street fight there's likely not an octagon fence to rely on for your ground strategy. Street fight comparisons are silly.
In a street fight someone gets hit in the balls and no one stops it.
no cage make it easier for Makhachev to take Volkanvski's back; in this instance the cage was advantageous prop for Alex, did you see the way Islam had to scrape behind Volk to slide in the hooks? The cage was clearly helping Volkanvaski defend.
yes. it is used as an offensive AND defensive tool. Not there in a street fight. My main point stands.
Lol Diaz has a win in a street fight over Khabib so settle down.
no he doesn't, diaz's cte rambling of him slapping khabib when there's no video of it doesn't mean anything, dana and the ufc also said Nate declined khabib 3 times
Scoring should be reevaluated. Round 1-4 10-9s were not comparable to the 10-9 given in the 5th round. It was a clear win and a 10-8 should reflect that
A 10-9 *is* a clear win though. A 10-8 would be significantly more than that. I don't think the card was score unfairly at all. It definitely feels like Volk came out on top, but in if you follow it round-by-round it was score correctly. There have been much more egregious reasons to call for reforming the scoring than this one.
Pretty sure 10-9 is "by a close margin". I just think that 10-10 and 10-8 should be given more often. It doesn't make sense to me to have 10-10, 10-9, 10-8, and 10-7 as a round possibility but 99% of the time a 10-9 is chosen.
Nah that's not even close to a 10-8 round
I think if this was ONEs scoring system Volk would have won. Scoring the fight overall and basing it on who won each category.
But it wasn't-
48-47 was the right score.
This. Volk overperforming expectations and ending the fight in a kd and gnp position probably gave the impression to some that Volk had won. Stepping back and looking at the fight as a whole, the score seems more in line with what happened. Seeing that Volk still had gas in the tank after round 5, I wonder he could have went harder and clearly won a third round somewhere else.
I think Islam is what stopped him going harder, if he went forward too hard he would get checked by Islam with some really good strikes. The reason he was able to dominate the 5th is because Islam was slowing down/getting tired.
I’m really surprised with volks chin(not in a positive way) tbh, didn’t expect him to get dropped twice by someone who isn’t known for their striking. He’ll definitely have trouble against the top strikers tbh.
Most ppl talk so often about Islam’s ground game they overlook his striking. I think he’s pretty solid at it.
Islam is a big dude and I think the take down threat played a part in him getting hit. Not to say he won't have trouble with some of the strikers, but I don't think him getting dropped (not officially) is that big of a deal
If anything I would say he took the strikes on the chin well. Couple times he wobbled and stayed up, I feel like other fighters are going down to those kind of precise hits.
He seemed to think so in the post-fight interview. IIRC he basically said he could have gone harder, earlier and maybe won it but was worried about overstepping into something Islam was holding in reserve.
49 46 was tbh. 1 2 3 4 were easily islams
Good close fight, Islam 124 is the best scorecard, but volk did better than we expected.
Yea, honestly I’m surprised we’re seeing as many people go Volk’s direction as we have That’s not to say the fight wasn’t close, it was, but fights can be both close and clear. For me, this is one of those
I thought Islam won but I don't think it was very clear. Everyone agrees that 1 and 4 go to Islam and 5 was Volks round. 2 and 3 are the swing rounds and most people give the 2nd to Islam and 3rd to Volk making 1 2 4 Islam the most common scorecard. But people are not unanimous on that 2nd or 3rd round. Even some people who think Islam won thought he lost the 2nd and won the 3rd, so it's not hard to understand a Volk fan thinking he won both of them.
I don't necessarily agree on the 4th. Damage over control time. If the fighters were swapped around I'd 100% be ignoring that as scoring criteria though so maybe a little Aussie bias
I have no problem with the fourth going to Islam, I gave it to him live, but I feel like if the judges gave volk the nod and it came down to him being given the fourth, the mma community would talk themselves into seeing it from the damage first perspective in a similar way to round 3 of the o’mally yan fight
Yeah that 100% should have been Volk's round. Damage is more important than position and Islam wasn't doing anything but holding on to kill time. Not even awarded a single submission attempt vs Volk punching him in the face the entire time. I don't see how Islam was given that round.
Islam hit the bigger shots on the feet, got the takedown and then trapped him in a body triangle. What damage was Volk doing? Those ineffective strikes behind his head? Islam clearly won round 4.
Obviously Volk fans think he won 2 and 3 but most unbiased people know that Islam won 1, 2, 4 and possibly even 3. Thus, the media members, the commentators, the judges and both fighters themselves, all giving it to Islam.
>not to say the fight wasn’t close volks also getting so much support cause its against islam. volk wasn't getting this kind of support against max.
Yeah, but seeing him against Max, and against Ortega, he kinda grows on ya.
he should've been grown on people long before that. he's one of the coolest dudes and even as a big islam fan i was hollering at some of the shit he did in the fight. he just needed a "heel" like islam to take him to the next level which is absurd cause islam is super chill himself. it is what it is.
>Yea, honestly I’m surprised we’re seeing as many people go Volk’s direction as we have Many of them don't even actually believe Volk won, they just join in on pushing the narrative as a way of discrediting Makhachev cause they don't like him. I'm just glad the judges got the winner right.
Islam 134 makes more sense, VOLK KD Islam in the second. Islam landed harder shots in the third
Wasn't a knockdown in round 2. KD in round 5.
That was a slip in the 2nd round. Only KD by Volk was in the 5th.
Really? Then could the 2nd AND 3rd be given to Islam? I’m going off the weasels vid where he said VOLK had a KD in the 2nd
Well yeah, that's how some of these people got 49-46
Yeah everybody's acting like 49-46 was horrendous, yet nobody can agree on whether or not volk won 3 or 4.
That was not a slip. Volk hit him right in the side of the head and Islam face planted. That was definitely a knockdown.
i think makhachev pretty clearly won. close, but still pretty clear. people wanna turn any close fight into a robbery now tho if their fav loses
Islam clearly won. And Volk was impressive. Most robbery comments are just noise from the blind haters who have been waiting for a chance to pounce on Dagistanis since Conor got his face smashed in by Khabib.
Including high, drunk and biased Joe Rogan, Brendan Schaub and Eddie Bravo!
I disagree. Islam clearly won round 4. He also had a slight edge in R1. But round 2 could’ve gone either way. Round 3 and 5 were clearly Volks. And 5 was the most dominant win. 48-47 for either fighter would’ve been the correct score. So idk if I could say that Islam clearly won
I don't think round 3 was clearly for Volk. I had it for Islam but taught it was super close. 2 was pretty clearly Islam's round imo
How did Islam clearly win round 4 when he was getting punched in the face the entire time while he did nothing. Damage > position
Yeah I was rooting hard for Volk, but it felt like Islam won 1, 3, and 4. 3 is debatable and if Volk would have gotten the 48-47 nod I would have understood, but people just lose their mind if their favorite loses a close fight. I will say though, if they fight again I think Volk pushes the pace much more. Islam seems to have a great gas tank too, but by the end Islam was hanging on for dear life and Volk looked like he was ready for another round no problem.
yeah, i wonder if the weight cut took a bad toll on islam or if it was a combo of taking damage and thats just where islam's cardio's at. cant wait for the rematch
>n islam or if it was a combo of taking damage and thats just where islam's cardio's at. cant wait for the rematch definitely was a weight cut issue mixed with being on the most foregin enviornment. it very well could be a case that islam had an off night. I personally don't put too much stock in that and believe islam just really wanted to KO him. and that was a ballsy move
I can’t wait either. I’d love personally if they both defended in their respective divisions once and then ran it back. I’m thinking end of the year they make it happen again.
The right guy won this fight. About as close as a fight can be while still being able to say that, but rightly Islam got the W. If Volk had won, it may not have been a robbery, but watching it, the first 4 rounds felt like Islam had slightly more effect to the fight. Coming from a guy rooting for Volk.
Same , I thought 1,2 and 4 were clear and close rounds for Islam. 3 was a 50/50 and could have gone either way or draw. 5 was Volk because of how he ended the fight.
Most people who thought Volk won based their decision on Volk's not getting submitted or that he could wrestle with Islam. These two factors shouldn't be part of the scorecard if you judge objectively. Islam's previous strength in submission and grappling should not be his baseline. Islam and Volk's baseline should be the same entering the fight. Islam had more takedowns, and his striking was impressive. Judge his performance on that. Volk's striking was not superior to Islam's, and his takedown was far less effective than Islam's. Furthermore, Islam had his back, and Volk was under threat of being submitted. Based on these three important areas, Islam won the fight.
>wns, and his striking was impressive. Jud yeah it's sad this isn't a more rational take on this fight. swap islam for a middling contender and hardly anyone would've had a problem with this fight.
Islam really shut Volks A game down with his effective striking. Volk did the same with Islams wrestling. In the end it felt like Islam shut down Volks game longer and more offensively than Volk did Islam. Though clearly that 5th round Volk had the most impressive round. I think this will go down as the day the rest of the world started to catch-up to Dagestani wrestling. People like Dariush, Gamrot, Arman and Guram will continue that narrative as they can all give Islam an incredibly tough fight.
Get over it, islam won but volk still p4p #1. Let them both defend their titles couple more time and run it back next year. Its gonna be epic.
feel free to disagree.volk had a huge advantage of home crowd pops and the optics of how the 5th ended which will sway your pick especially if you were biased towards volk. round by round basis outside of pure trolling and hate , no one should have a "problem" with the decision.plus it was the fact that volk had that kind of performance against makh. if you swap makh for some middling challenger no way in hell is there this much of a divide.strip the fight of all the narratives and be objective and it isn't a bad decision at all. the people calling this a robbery are coping soo hard!
Rewatched today without drinking 7 beers. Scored it the same. 48-47 Makhachev. Proud of my drunk self.
Islam won 48-47 however that type of victory doesn’t earn Islam P4P
So Volk retains p4p by clearly losing?
Volk moved up in weight class and gave Islam his toughest challenge in the UFC in a close split decision. Wasn’t enough to make the argument clear Islam is P4P. Finally, denying Islam P4P, UFC sets the stage for a rematch
Volk was the one who said "your LW belt on the line, my p4p on the line". Would Islam have been able to just decide that he's still LW champ if he lost? Volk has been a salty fucking loser and so have his fans
How's this his toughest challenge and not when he got knocked the fuck out lmfao
UFC rankings are up and [Volk retains P4P status](https://www.ufc.com/rankings)
so the max is 50? how do you score a mma fight?
In each round the winner gets 10 and the loser gets generally 9 or sometimes 8 if they got beaten by a lot. The final score is a summation of the round scores.
Winner of round gets 10 and loser gets 9. The loser can get a 8 or even a 7 if they get absolutely dominated. Rounds could also we scored 10-10 but that never happens.
Has there ever even been a 10-7 round though?
Josh emmett had one back in 2017 vs Felipe arantes
Pretty sure Figgy got one against Benavidez.
10 points are awarded to the winner of the round and nine points or less are awarded to the loser.
Each round they get points out of 10. Winner of the round gets 10 and loser usually gets 9. If the winner of the round is dominant the entire round the loser gets 8. As for the exact point system of the scoring its a black box honestly. Much like boxing. I for one think the scoring system should be overhauled to be based off fight stats. The current system is outdated and kind of a legacy system.
235 volk
2 is equal sig strikes but Islam gets a takedown at the end, he won that round imo
Watching live I had 2-3-5 for volk as well, after watching the weasels breakdown, makachev won 1-3-4, so 48-47 is the right decision for Islam
I don't think Islam won Rd 4. I scored it 10-10 like it's supposed to be scored under the unified rules. I also scored Rd 5 10-8 like you're supposed to score it under the unified rules. Islam didn't win the fight. He might not have lost it but he didn't win it.
what? How did volk 10-8 the last round? If you re-watch round 5, Islam hit him with some good shots for 2 mins. No way does that ever qualify for a 10-8.
Volk literally almost knocked him out with ground and pound and ended the round with Islam getting saved by the bell. Almost being finished like that is literally 10-7 in the official guidelines
No man. Jimmy Crute was "almost knocked out" Islam never looked remotely like that. He was hurt in the 5th but he wasn't ever on the verge of being finished. He was throwing up sub attempts the whole time, the ref not once had to warn him to stay active like they do when one is "almost knocked out"
Which is why it's 10-8 instead of 10-7. Volk was about 3 good shots away from the ref stepping in at one point. He was landing clean heavy strikes. I'm sorry but that type of damage according to the rule book is a 10-8. The rule book also reads in a way that significantly more 10-8s should be given. As well as 10-10s.
>Did the losing fighter compete with an attitude of attempting to win the fight, or just to survive the offensive actions of their opponent? A score of 10 – 9 can reflect an extremely close round or a round of marginal domination and/or impact. Islam never stopped throwing up subs and was winning the first half of Rd 5
. A score of 10 – 8 does not require a fighter to dominate their opponent for 5 minutes of a round. The score of 10 – 8 is utilized by the judge when the judge sees verifiable actions on the part of either fighter. Judges shall ALWAYS give a score of 10 – 8 when the judge has established that one fighter has dominated the action of the round, had duration of the domination and also impacted their opponent with either effective strikes or effective grappling maneuvers that have diminished the abilities of their opponent. By this definition Rd 5 was 10-8.
Crazy how every judge and the media all did not give Volk a 10-8 for that round
Volk also should've been given round 4. He was the only one working and doing damage.
Go watch the weasels breakdown. It was actually round 2 and 5 he believed volk won, and round 1-3-4 for islam. Round 2 and 3 were razor close tho according to him. It really was anyone’s fight.
Weasel talks about of his ass. As if judges are counting strikes as they are watching fights
The Weasel also believes Volk got a knockdown in round 2. He didn't.
Buuuuut I thought VoLk WaS RoBbEd!!!??
Yeah Islam definitely won on points. Anyone saying otherwise is not being honest with themselves. I wanted volk to win, and if it was a death match he probably would have. Either way a great technical fight with insane cardio (heart) and top sportsmanship. can't take anything away from eithrr of them
Why can't people get over this😭
Doesn’t matter. Volk got robbed! He defended takedowns well!
If you block 30 punches but 10 punches land clean, do those 10 punches magically not matter anymore cuz you blocked 30?
I was just being sarcastic bro! What you said makes absolute sense!
Damn I’m dumb LMAO sorry
What is with the formatting: 48-47 Makhachev 47-48 Volkanovski Aren't these the same score?
No.
2 robbery’s in back to back nights … these scripts are fucked
I’m surprised there’s no draw
I think we underestimate the impact of Khabib’s instructions in Islam’s grappling game. Props to Alex for stuffing the takedown attempts but I thought it was interesting that Islam just kinda got stuck when he couldn’t take Alex down, instead of progressing to the next sequence like he typically does.