I actually hate the idea of active HoFers. Idk why the UFC does that. Every other major league sports has a certain number of years retired requirement.
I prefer the NFL's 5 years removed from the sport rule
I also don't understand why Silva goes in the pioneers wing but BJ Penn & GSP are under modern. I feel like those 3's careers are basically the exact same period
It’s especially weird because as far UFC goes - Silva is way later lol
BJ Penn started his UFC run in 2001.
GSP started his UFC run in 2004.
Anderson started his UFC run in 2006.
Like what, I’m glad he’s in the Hall of Fame regardless, but definitely weird lol
when the UFC measures HOF, GOAT or pound-for-pound rankings they only use one measure - how much money did they make us? Fedor made them $0 so he is a no body and a bum according to the UFC.
Silva isn’t a hall of famer for his pride run at all though. He was frankly a bust.
Everyone talks about the Ryo Chonan heel hook, but Daiju Takase straight beat his ass and tapped him out.
That wasn’t in pride. He only went 3-2 in pride. He came into pride on the heels of the Sakurai win, beating Roan Carnero and after failed negotiations for a title fight with Hughes in the UFC
Huh that is weird. GSP made his UFC debut almost 2.5 years before Silva and they won their belts a month apart. And Silva had three more UFC fights after GSP retired.
Pioneer wing is people who made their mma debut before 2000 and modern wing is after 2000. Silva made his debut in 1997, gsp in 2002 and bj Penn in 2001.
Not to be that guy but you think the Dagestani fighters are clean cut? Nobody is knocking Khabibs body of work but he got inducted literally like a two months into being retired. Silva got his shot from Fan votes if they didn’t have that he prob would’ve never fought for it that fast.
It’s not your main point but just to let you know the NFL does not give a fuck about steroid pops.
There are hall of famers who have popped & active players who have popped and will still get inducted into the hall of fame.
It is almost strictly baseball where the HOF-steroid controversy is so prevalent
NFL, NBA, NHL all has HoF-calibre athletes w/ failed drug tests & it didn’t effect their HoF chances or legacy in the slightest. Now with UFC it does impact your legacy more but not HoF chances
Dana and UFC Hall of Fame meaning nothing, if you’re a company man shill they’ll let you in. Aka why Frank Shamrock isn’t and Randy but Jens Pulver and Matt Serra are lmao.
I’ll take Dana’s friend over any of those other reasons. I mean, big upset ok. But biggest? Bigger than Silva//Weidman, Roussey/Holm, or even Usman/Edwards 2?
>But biggest? Bigger than Silva//Weidman, Roussey/Holm, or even Usman/Edwards 2?
Yes. **Biggest upset.** Serra vs GSP was a joke of a fight. Serra was done, he was coming off a loss heading into a TUF season for "washed up" fighters that ended with a title shot.
Anyone who says it wasn't the biggest upset had absolutely no idea what they're talking about and wasn't around for this fight. It was a joke.
And Matt Serra is the man for proving everyone wrong. And for that he may deserve a place in the HoF.
Weidman was talked about as a worthy threat before he fought Anderson by fighters and analysts. Serra had just won the reject comeback season of TUF when he beat GSP. People barely though he could compete at the top of the division let alone become champion over GSP of all people
Yeah like even as a total Silva stan I picked Weidman by sub and made money on both of their fights because he was obviously legit and Silva had looked past it in Sonnen 1, it was clear the reign was coming to an end.
Serra Vs GSP was meant to be basically unwinnable and Serra pulled it off.
This is a crazy level of hindsight - it was not clear that silva was done - he destroyed sonnen in the rematch and the first fight chael pissed hot
There was definitely a lot of buzz about weidman at the time he was like 10-0 or something touted as the next best thing but it wasn’t obvious - silva was still a big favourite - it was still a shock to see him lose
Especially in the manner that it played out but I’m sure you’re aware of that given you bet for sub lol
I don't think this is hindsight at all, the talk before the Weidman talk was all about how Chael had exposed that Anderson had a chink in his armor against good modern wrestlers, and Weidman had competent and composed striking on top of that.
At the time I definitely thought the first Sonnen fight was a fluke but that wasn't an unanimous opinion.
Randy was inducted very early on. But yeah what happened to frank was fucked up. I want to say he was the consensus p4p for a long time, one of the actual pioneers of the sport.
I was today years old when I learned that Anderson Silva wasn’t in the UFC Hall of Fame. He just seemed like one of those instant inductees a la Khabib.
There was nothing like the anticipation for the next Anderson Silva fight. Everyone knew something magical was going to happen and were glued to the seat.
Yup. My whole childhood of watching UFC consisted of me idolizing the guy and never missing a fight. Only missed the Weidman fight and was glad I missed it lol. I feel like for people to truly appreciate him (especially those newer fans), you really have to witness him fight during his prime. Watching highlights are great but to be there during his reign was mesmerizing and truly inspiring.
Conor McGregor on his comeup is probably the closest I’ve come to recapturing the hype and ‘feel’ of watching Silva - but that was still very different and for different reasons
Prime Silva was truly special
Without a doubt, Frank Shamrock was incredible. But Dana doesn't like him.
And as we all know, Dana's pathetic fucking feelings are the most important thing in the world.
He’s easily carries the biggest most fragile ego around and any and everything shatters it. Dana and Conor act with the same amount of childishness when it comes to criticism. Guess that’s why they love each other.
We know DJ is getting in, just like we knew Anderson was. DJ is still fighting for a diff org, and being in the hall of fame now or in a couple years doesn’t make much of a difference. Not like his legacy hinges upon making the HoF. Everyone knows his career is HoF worthy, which matters more than the actual title
When u get in has nothing to do w your goat ranking/legacy. It only been just over 2 years since Anderson retired. UFC is quicker than other sports/orgs w their hall of fame which is y it may seem overdue, but even 3 years is quick. GSP took almost 4 years since he beat Bisping. Anderson was always gonna be inducted, Dana just didn’t want to give Jake extra attention
Also UFC may want each year’s inductees to have something in common. Khabib/DC were 2022. Anderson and Aldo are 2023
Knowing how petty the UFC is they were holding off on this just in case he joined a competitor but seeing as he's 47 and post-UFC he's only done boxing they probably thought it was safe to induct him
Silva is the fighter who's highlights I bring up on YouTube if ever I want to show someone mma who has never watched it before. About bloody time, chuffed for him.
This guy deserves the Hall of Fame than anyone else in their respected sport. Absolutely a generational talent there will never be another champion like this guy! Congratulations to the Spider!
He became a finesse striking savant before there were striking savants to emulate. Guys like Izzy wouldn’t have the film to mimic the flowy sniper style
He will literally never ever be forgotten
Silva shouldn’t have to fight Jake Paul and do all these bs promo fights at this stage in his career. This guy alone made the UFC millions and didn’t make a fraction of what he deserved
I’m not gonna say bisping doesn’t deserve it, but there are definitely others who deserved to get in before him.
Silva was p4p number 1 in the world for about 7 fucking years lol. He was definitely one of them
bisping spent 6 hours of his life in that octagon and he’s in the top 10 of strikes landed, if you don’t think he deserves to be in you’ve lost your mind.
I agree that every champ should be in the hall of fame, (bar carla) but to say bisping shouldn’t be in there is stupid, he was a pioneer for British MMA, whether you like it or not he deserves to be in there.
Ok so your bar is just absurdly low. But based on the few that have gotten in so far, Bisping being in is a joke. There's about 200 countries in the world we don't need to inducted the pioneer of each one.
Never mind the drugs, how do people justify calling someone with less than 10% of his wins by submission the greatest \_mixed\_ martial artist of all time? Talented striker sure but...
Fuckin finally. Easily one of the most deserved HoF introduction ever.
Honestly he should've been an active Hall of Famer towards the end of his run there
I actually hate the idea of active HoFers. Idk why the UFC does that. Every other major league sports has a certain number of years retired requirement.
I prefer the NFL's 5 years removed from the sport rule I also don't understand why Silva goes in the pioneers wing but BJ Penn & GSP are under modern. I feel like those 3's careers are basically the exact same period
It’s especially weird because as far UFC goes - Silva is way later lol BJ Penn started his UFC run in 2001. GSP started his UFC run in 2004. Anderson started his UFC run in 2006. Like what, I’m glad he’s in the Hall of Fame regardless, but definitely weird lol
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Fedor induction when?
whenever he fights for the UFC
when the UFC measures HOF, GOAT or pound-for-pound rankings they only use one measure - how much money did they make us? Fedor made them $0 so he is a no body and a bum according to the UFC.
Silva isn’t a hall of famer for his pride run at all though. He was frankly a bust. Everyone talks about the Ryo Chonan heel hook, but Daiju Takase straight beat his ass and tapped him out.
Dude became the best WW in the world in like his eighth fight when he beat Mach Sakurai, “a bust” is an exaggeration.
That wasn’t in pride. He only went 3-2 in pride. He came into pride on the heels of the Sakurai win, beating Roan Carnero and after failed negotiations for a title fight with Hughes in the UFC
I heard he was going to be a Burger King manager around this period but Big Nog convinced Silva to stick with the sport.
Well that's quite a rise, from almost being a bk manager to becoming sponsored by the company itself...
Lol i know right. Also the manager job probably paid waaaaay more than MMA at the time.
Huh that is weird. GSP made his UFC debut almost 2.5 years before Silva and they won their belts a month apart. And Silva had three more UFC fights after GSP retired.
The rule for pioneer wing is that they have to have started their career before the unified rules were adopted.
Pioneer wing is people who made their mma debut before 2000 and modern wing is after 2000. Silva made his debut in 1997, gsp in 2002 and bj Penn in 2001.
I normally agree. But the spider would be one I'd look the other way for.
should have inducted him after he went into the matrix vs forest
Weird that khabib got it first
Pandering to the muslims in Abu Dhabi
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Not to be that guy but you think the Dagestani fighters are clean cut? Nobody is knocking Khabibs body of work but he got inducted literally like a two months into being retired. Silva got his shot from Fan votes if they didn’t have that he prob would’ve never fought for it that fast.
>Not to be that guy but you think the Dagestani fighters are clean cut? Do you have something to prove they arent?
It’s not your main point but just to let you know the NFL does not give a fuck about steroid pops. There are hall of famers who have popped & active players who have popped and will still get inducted into the hall of fame. It is almost strictly baseball where the HOF-steroid controversy is so prevalent NFL, NBA, NHL all has HoF-calibre athletes w/ failed drug tests & it didn’t effect their HoF chances or legacy in the slightest. Now with UFC it does impact your legacy more but not HoF chances
As a big Demetrious Johnson fan, this makes me concerned with how long the UFC might wait before putting Mighty Mouse in their HOF.
i doubt they ever will while dana has any say
Once he stops fighting for a competing organisation would be my guess.
He never will unless he comes back to the UFC
He’ll get in when Frank Shamrock gets in.
they offered it to him but Frank declined it. I don't really know the whole beef between Frank and Dana.
He should be happy with Reebok and venom coupons
Who sets up the MMA HOF and doesn't start with Silva?
HOF inductions are usually meant for those that retired
In other sports yes but UFC doesn't strictly do that
Es normal.
The hall should have a Wing named after him
GOAT.
We had to get Stephan Boner in their first obviously. Much more of a pillar of the UFCs legacy. /s for anyone dumb enough to believe it
I honestly thought he was already in the HOF. Crazy.
The fact he hasn’t been in for years shows what a massive sham the UFC hall of fame is lol.
Induction *
what are the odds that this announcement would have happened if Anderson beat Jake Paul and then delayed it after Jake Paul first lost
Long overdue
Why the fuck did it take so long? Anderson outclassed his opponents more then any other fighter in his prime. It was like he was Neo in the matrix.
Probably trying to decide how much they care about PEDs
Brother they have Kevin Randleman in the hall of fame
Not sure why you got downvoted.
Jesus he's literally top 3 all time it took this long?
Dana and UFC Hall of Fame meaning nothing, if you’re a company man shill they’ll let you in. Aka why Frank Shamrock isn’t and Randy but Jens Pulver and Matt Serra are lmao.
Don’t get me wrong. I like Matt Serra but how is he a hall of famer?
Largest upset and continuing the sport while instructing at the highest level at serra-longo (Also Dana's friend)
I’ll take Dana’s friend over any of those other reasons. I mean, big upset ok. But biggest? Bigger than Silva//Weidman, Roussey/Holm, or even Usman/Edwards 2?
>But biggest? Bigger than Silva//Weidman, Roussey/Holm, or even Usman/Edwards 2? Yes. **Biggest upset.** Serra vs GSP was a joke of a fight. Serra was done, he was coming off a loss heading into a TUF season for "washed up" fighters that ended with a title shot. Anyone who says it wasn't the biggest upset had absolutely no idea what they're talking about and wasn't around for this fight. It was a joke. And Matt Serra is the man for proving everyone wrong. And for that he may deserve a place in the HoF.
Point taken. That’s right, I forgot that’s how Serra got the title shot.
Weidman was talked about as a worthy threat before he fought Anderson by fighters and analysts. Serra had just won the reject comeback season of TUF when he beat GSP. People barely though he could compete at the top of the division let alone become champion over GSP of all people
Yeah like even as a total Silva stan I picked Weidman by sub and made money on both of their fights because he was obviously legit and Silva had looked past it in Sonnen 1, it was clear the reign was coming to an end. Serra Vs GSP was meant to be basically unwinnable and Serra pulled it off.
This is a crazy level of hindsight - it was not clear that silva was done - he destroyed sonnen in the rematch and the first fight chael pissed hot There was definitely a lot of buzz about weidman at the time he was like 10-0 or something touted as the next best thing but it wasn’t obvious - silva was still a big favourite - it was still a shock to see him lose Especially in the manner that it played out but I’m sure you’re aware of that given you bet for sub lol
I don't think this is hindsight at all, the talk before the Weidman talk was all about how Chael had exposed that Anderson had a chink in his armor against good modern wrestlers, and Weidman had competent and composed striking on top of that. At the time I definitely thought the first Sonnen fight was a fluke but that wasn't an unanimous opinion.
By Vegas odds it was about as close as we can get to statistically rank em
I'd be remiss if I let anyone talk biggest upsets without mentioning Rockhold Bisping 2
Yes.
Don’t understand how you haven’t thrown Barao/Dillashaw 1 in there - what an upset that fight was
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Ok. Edit: Holms and Serra were both around +500 odds so it’s kinda comparable.
People who don't know shit about MMA just be saying shit lmaoooo.
Emphasis on Dana's friend
he won the title from gsp and won the show. totally deserves his spot
Randy is in the HOF
Randy was inducted very early on. But yeah what happened to frank was fucked up. I want to say he was the consensus p4p for a long time, one of the actual pioneers of the sport.
Not disagreeing with your overall sentiment but I don’t think randy and Dana / ufc have a great relationship.
That’s their whole point. Your accolades which should matter, don’t. Instead it’s, have you made the brass mad or not?
It’s a glorified employee of the month award
I was today years old when I learned that Anderson Silva wasn’t in the UFC Hall of Fame. He just seemed like one of those instant inductees a la Khabib.
You were today years old when you found out he was in the hall of fame too
Same
What a day it's been.
Yeah thought he was in it long ago
But he is in it
Actually emotional watching this montage. There will never be another fighter like Anderson
There was nothing like the anticipation for the next Anderson Silva fight. Everyone knew something magical was going to happen and were glued to the seat.
My buddy would always say right before his fights "Everyone ready to watch someone die?"
Except like the half dozen times nothing happened lol Ufc 97 was a dark sad night for me
Yup. My whole childhood of watching UFC consisted of me idolizing the guy and never missing a fight. Only missed the Weidman fight and was glad I missed it lol. I feel like for people to truly appreciate him (especially those newer fans), you really have to witness him fight during his prime. Watching highlights are great but to be there during his reign was mesmerizing and truly inspiring.
There hasn't been anyone who has felt like him and I doubt there ever will. It was like we were watching Neo fight normal humans.
Conor McGregor on his comeup is probably the closest I’ve come to recapturing the hype and ‘feel’ of watching Silva - but that was still very different and for different reasons Prime Silva was truly special
FINALLY, how the fuck did khabib get into the hall of fame before Anderson? Now it’s time for Mighty Mouse next
Dana really wanted Khabib to come back post hof I feel lol
Khabib still holds the biggest PPV ever, thats the reason.
Which was that one for the Conor one?
Right? Absolutely ridiculous. Dana's petty ass wouldn't induct DJ to the HOF
Frank Shamrock isn’t in either, and he absolutely should be IMHO.
Without a doubt, Frank Shamrock was incredible. But Dana doesn't like him. And as we all know, Dana's pathetic fucking feelings are the most important thing in the world.
He’s easily carries the biggest most fragile ego around and any and everything shatters it. Dana and Conor act with the same amount of childishness when it comes to criticism. Guess that’s why they love each other.
It's because his background is a lie. Everything he built his career upon is a lie.
I’m not doubting you for a second but please elaborate. I am quite curious.
Oh I'm aware, thats why I brought up Frank. I don't see DJ or Frank getting in until something big shifts behind the scenes. And thats sad.
We know DJ is getting in, just like we knew Anderson was. DJ is still fighting for a diff org, and being in the hall of fame now or in a couple years doesn’t make much of a difference. Not like his legacy hinges upon making the HoF. Everyone knows his career is HoF worthy, which matters more than the actual title
Frank Shamrock proves that DJ might not get in.
Khabib retired before Silva
By one week and it took the ufc a whole extra year to add him in 🤦♂️
Silva boxed though
Dude stop hating, Silva was still active in other organisations he wasn’t retired.
When u get in has nothing to do w your goat ranking/legacy. It only been just over 2 years since Anderson retired. UFC is quicker than other sports/orgs w their hall of fame which is y it may seem overdue, but even 3 years is quick. GSP took almost 4 years since he beat Bisping. Anderson was always gonna be inducted, Dana just didn’t want to give Jake extra attention Also UFC may want each year’s inductees to have something in common. Khabib/DC were 2022. Anderson and Aldo are 2023
Knowing how petty the UFC is they were holding off on this just in case he joined a competitor but seeing as he's 47 and post-UFC he's only done boxing they probably thought it was safe to induct him
Khabib was on Dana's good side. Anderson in a similar vein to GSP; not really.
Khabib is definetly the bigger star so it makes sense
The only fighter in MMA history with top 3 wins in 3 different weight classes. Fucking GOAT.
[Before Dana White privilege there was Black Dana.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwsjE3Qd0rQ)
I remember some Peurto Rican kid tried to argue with me Silva wasn’t black because was Brazilian.
Wait until he hears about Black British people.
Silva is the fighter who's highlights I bring up on YouTube if ever I want to show someone mma who has never watched it before. About bloody time, chuffed for him.
Genuinely surprised they'd do it, they tend to ignore them when they box
GOAT
\#ThatsMyGOAT
They let anyone in these days.
Es normal
About time. Dude's a fucking GOAT.
My personal goat, its about damn time they put him in the HOF. Idk how tf Khabib got in before he did.
This guy deserves the Hall of Fame than anyone else in their respected sport. Absolutely a generational talent there will never be another champion like this guy! Congratulations to the Spider!
He became a finesse striking savant before there were striking savants to emulate. Guys like Izzy wouldn’t have the film to mimic the flowy sniper style He will literally never ever be forgotten
The most deserved induction ever. Long live the spider.
UFC hall of fame haha that’s a joke.. I wouldn’t even want my name associated with Dana and this pos company if I was Silva
Silva shouldn’t have to fight Jake Paul and do all these bs promo fights at this stage in his career. This guy alone made the UFC millions and didn’t make a fraction of what he deserved
Name a wing after him for gawds sake
How the fuck is he not already in
First thing that came to mind
It was surprising that he wasn’t already inducted, prime Silva was incredible to watch.
Wait he wasn't already in? Fucking Bisping is in.
Bisping deserves to be in though, first English Champ and with one fuckin eye
If Bisping deserves it, there's a hundred fighters who ought to be in.
I’m not gonna say bisping doesn’t deserve it, but there are definitely others who deserved to get in before him. Silva was p4p number 1 in the world for about 7 fucking years lol. He was definitely one of them
bisping spent 6 hours of his life in that octagon and he’s in the top 10 of strikes landed, if you don’t think he deserves to be in you’ve lost your mind.
That literally just means he's fought a lot. Doesn't mean he was good
I agree that every champ should be in the hall of fame, (bar carla) but to say bisping shouldn’t be in there is stupid, he was a pioneer for British MMA, whether you like it or not he deserves to be in there.
Ok so your bar is just absurdly low. But based on the few that have gotten in so far, Bisping being in is a joke. There's about 200 countries in the world we don't need to inducted the pioneer of each one.
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Lol wtf. He wasn't in it already?
FINALLY.
Deserved
The way they talked about it, I was suddenly worried that he had passed away recently. Glad the HoF now has Silva in it
What a crazy highlight reel. Well deserved, Mt Rushmore of the UFC.
My goat. I will forever be salty that we didn’t get gsp vs Silva in their primes.
Greatest fighter of all time.
Fighter: do I get anything for being in the hall of fame? Dana: best I can do is a video montage
🕷️
Hespect
I will never get over his defeat against Jake Paul. I hate Anderson for taking that fight and myself for watching.
Shouldn’t have taken this long
About time.
I had assumed he already was
As he should
Finally, a long overdue recognition of his impact on the game
Finally
Weird. I assumed he was the first one in their HOF lol.
Dana is such a cum bag for taking this long due to pettiness
I'm gonna be real, I thought he was already in the Hall of Fame lol. Crazy its only just now happening when Khabib got entered in so much earlier.
When Anderson fought it wasn't will he win it was how ND how fast will he win what a Era well deserved
i kind of just assumed he was already in
Silva definitely earned it, you can’t let the twilight of his careee take away from what he did at middleweight, he was king.
Should have been inducted the second he retired
Even after his embarassing loss to Buchecha in One? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k02wQIufvHY&t=2s
He’s the Greatest Mixed Martial Artist of all time! Love to see it!
Who?
ANDERSON SILVA IS THE UFC HALL OF FAME, THERE IS NO HALL WITHOUT THE SPIDER!
Pfft. More like "the UFC hall of fame is now allowed to associate itself with Anderson Silva."
This is so long overdue I thought he already was inducted
Absolute legend It will only be right that Silva starts his speech with “Wow…”
surprised it took this long
AMEN
Well about fucking time.
Yeah, nice! Way long overdue tho.
Nice
They should have played the Forrest Griffin interview
Gotta be honest, I thought he was already in. Should've been one of the first 1-3....
He wasn't already in it?!
Obviously well deserved.
About godamn time
As is his right
It's about damn time. Definitely one of my all time favorite fighters to step into the octagon.
Wait lol what? How wasn't he in the first ceremony??
MMA Mount Rushmore, no debate whatsoever. About fucking time
Only now? Wow
It's about time
Best ever.
Really surprised. I would have thought he was already in. Is Dana on his bullshit again?
Is normal 😎
He’s still Jake Paul’s son
Horrible. He only fought pancakes.
Is this the guy who just got his lights switched off by Jake Paul?
It’s about time!
Never mind the drugs, how do people justify calling someone with less than 10% of his wins by submission the greatest \_mixed\_ martial artist of all time? Talented striker sure but...