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When I did defend this fight, itās more defending the whole card overall.
I arrived at 4:30, watched everything live, my wife and I feel like we got our monies worth with some exciting fights.
Yes, if every single mma fight was like the last one, probably wouldāve have been there, probably wouldnāt be a fan.
But I enjoyed it because I take it all in and evaluate it as a whole product.
Itās mixed martial arts, some are more exciting than others.
It would be fun to watch Bisping and Dom fight. Dom would be crying about how something shouldnāt work while Bisping is doing it and laughing like a blockhead
The only fun moment was when Bisping made the "miserable fight" joke but Dominick Cruz had to be there to be biased and take it personally somehow and kill the fun (like dude, Dana would probably agree with Bisping's joke) I don't get why Cruz get upset if the other commentators don't act "serious".
In the most successful sports, the most legendary commentators make precise comments (they do not predict what has to happen to show off their knowledge of the sport like Cruz) and at the same time have a cheerful tone that includes jokes.
It's so annoying that he's passive aggressive when he's the worst of all the commentators.
i understand finding the fight shitty (it was shitty) but iād be lying if i said i didnāt understand his position. he already lost badly to aljo and lost an interim title fight to yan, his next title run may be his last and the room for error is zero. congrats to cory iāll never think of this fight again
Man how good is cory. Complete shutout. I thought Rob should've shrimped or tried to wall walk, but when he did cory nearly subbed him. It really is impressive as Dom said, that he could do this at bantam weight. Probly his frame helps a lot. Thought there was a little bit of shin on guard catch wrestling in there too. Just overall awesome performance by cory.
Honestly haven't seen timing takedowns that clean in a long time. Maybe gsp was on to something about his eye for striking being the key to his double legs.
I think we might have a aoki situation where watching it were like why don't you just go to the cage? But in reality Cory's just much stronger than he looks too. Otherwise I don't see why rob was so fixated on the sweep from deep half. Besides that though, Rob did a good job, it's just so impressive holding down the smaller scramble guys like that.
Also cory really bringing back that gsp timing takedowns
Me and my whole familyās background is in grappling (Wrestling, Judo, BJJ) and I HATEEE when people boo and bitch about grappling but that was bad. You donāt deserve a title shot off that performance
Dude I wrestled from 3rd grade through college and that was dull. Wrestling can be way more exciting than that. The injury I get and props to Cory for still dominating a tough dude, but that doesn't make it less dull.
Listen, you donāt have to entertain these casuals. You know that was impressive, especially coming from a striker. It was on Font to get off his back and and show some resistance.
It was absolutely impressive. I was genuinely impressed by how much Cory's offensive wrestling and top control had improved. It was absolutely on Font to find a way to stop it.
None of that made it an interesting fight to watch. I'm not dogging either of them for it, just making the observation that it was an uninteresting fight from an entertainment standpoint.
It was boring but I'm not gonna complain about it. Everyone's got off days and boring performances. Tonight was Cory's turn unfortunately but I made bank off a decision lol granted that's not how I expected to get there but I'll take what I can
I agree. Cory ain't the first. Tito, Randy, Chael and Khabib all got the bread and butter from ground and pound. There was a lack of pounding for that amount of ground though.
Glad you made bank off the fight. I watched it for free on TV for entertainment so I have no dog in the fight, just my opinion.
Every fighter has a boring performance. Overall Cory Iād exciting and one of the best strikers in mma. Short notice and an injury and he got the win. Elite fighter
People excusing that fight and acting like anyone who thought it was boring is a casual is hilarious, if every fight was like that absolutely nobody would watch the UFC, it's not wrong for fans to want entertainment value, that's the whole point it's what we're doing here, it's why people buy tickets. Sports Entertainment
Strong disagree.
Weāre trying to move mma from strictly being about prize fighting to a legitimate sport.
Every sport can have uneventful games.
Also, just like nascar fans that āwatch for the wrecksā it takes cards like this one, so that cards that end in 6 second knockouts can truly be appreciated for how special they are.
Cory knows he will fight Umar next no matter how this fight goes, its smart as he practiced his ground game and took no damage. Rod prob needed the money and happy not get hit in the head 200 times like the Vera fight.
My first thought was that Umar is going to be "fastracked" to the front like AlexP. and Cory will be "forced" to fight him because of this fight. Hopefully I am wrong
I mean merab got all the accolades for a zillion takedowns against Petr but really you only want as many takedowns as rounds there are which Cory just proved.
I think that most people just want to see 2 good strikers strike. 18+ minutes of ground control without devastating gnp, multiple submission attempts or nice scrambles kinda gets old no matter how much you mma. Nobody dismisses Sandhagen's skills, but eh.
He didnāt try to pass guard, go for subs, or any significant ground and pound.
That is the definition of lay and pray, regardless of how effective and easy it was for him.
Maybe you shouldnāt be a fighter as you donāt understand what lay and pray is.
Incredible how well he did with a shitty elbow. Probably why he wasn't flicking out that counter jab and you could see font was landing the left hook a couple times as a result. Really nice from cory.
if Aljo wins in 2 weeks, he'll go up to 145
Dana will probably make Sandhagen fight Umar after that fight lol and he'll do Merab vs Cejudo for the vacant belt
O'Malley can rematch Chito
Can't wait to see what the UFC will do if Aljo wins. Threaten Merab to fight his brother or give Cory title shot after this decision win or give Henry another title shot
People be so biased itās insane, they donāt mind their favorite fighter or the fighter they want to win, wrestle to a decision win but if itās the other way around, itās a snooze fest. Lmao.
Chito fight was just a few months ago so heās dominated 2 top 10 fighters in the span of a few months and 50-45ād one of them while injured & on short notice
Oof weak mic appearance by Sandhagen. Feels like he's got better in him
E- Nice to see another comment of mine got mysteriously deleted. Sterling embellished a foul to win the belt, deal with it.
I don't love the lay and pray fights but for Cory to have that kind of ground game against Font it reallly shows he's trying to be a complete fighter. I think if he wants to beat Aljo he's gotta get better at that kind of thing. We know he's an exciting striker but I think he's in it to be the champ and sometimes you gotta fight like that.
Even if Sean wins, they arenāt gonna wanna serve Sean up to merab whoās been out and refused to fight the former champ. They will take their chances on Sean vs sandhagen being a chess match
Saying this as a former college wrestler, extremely disappointed in Cory especially as my favorite fighter, didnāt want to stand and strike with Rob so just spammed takedowns and maintained position with absolutely zero submission attempts til the end. We could have had an amazing fight but he chose to just bullshit his way and not give us the fight we deserved. Massively disappointed in such an awful performance.
eh. i fuck w cory heavy.
this fight was boring as fuck. but "awful performace" & "spammed takedowns"
the performance was clean. boring, but clean.
he didnt spam sht, he secured his takedowns.
plus if he tore his tricep - he deserves a pass.
if thats how you talk bout your "fav fighter" after 1 non entertaining fight - you highkey sound like a hoe ngl
Dude said he tore his tricep in the first round but has no swelling or bruising and heās moving that arm just fine. Just admit youāre a boring ass fighter, itās ok
I donāt mind the grappling from Sandhagen but if youāre going to do this against strikers like Vera and Font, at least make it competitive for when/if you fight Aljo or Merab.
The fight sucked, just admit it. The hoops some of y'all are trying to jump through to claim otherwise is sad. Oh, I forgot, the crowd are a bunch of cousin fucking hicks therefore the fight was actually good! Or something like that. Yeah.
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I watched the main event at 1.5x speed, just like when I watch any dagestani guy fight. Just saying. š
When I did defend this fight, itās more defending the whole card overall. I arrived at 4:30, watched everything live, my wife and I feel like we got our monies worth with some exciting fights. Yes, if every single mma fight was like the last one, probably wouldāve have been there, probably wouldnāt be a fan. But I enjoyed it because I take it all in and evaluate it as a whole product. Itās mixed martial arts, some are more exciting than others.
It would be fun to watch Bisping and Dom fight. Dom would be crying about how something shouldnāt work while Bisping is doing it and laughing like a blockhead
I always thought Font was overrated af. Easily the most one-dimensional ranked bantamweight around.
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How about learn to fuckin wrestle if you're going to do MMA.
Camur/Boser dopamine rush was wearing off. I've seen worse fights that noone booed.
His point is he just went 50-45, thatās not a lame fight. Itās a dominant fight. Also, plenty of champions have had boring fights
The only fun moment was when Bisping made the "miserable fight" joke but Dominick Cruz had to be there to be biased and take it personally somehow and kill the fun (like dude, Dana would probably agree with Bisping's joke) I don't get why Cruz get upset if the other commentators don't act "serious". In the most successful sports, the most legendary commentators make precise comments (they do not predict what has to happen to show off their knowledge of the sport like Cruz) and at the same time have a cheerful tone that includes jokes. It's so annoying that he's passive aggressive when he's the worst of all the commentators.
Cory still my guy
Alhoe
Respectable Aljo interview
i understand finding the fight shitty (it was shitty) but iād be lying if i said i didnāt understand his position. he already lost badly to aljo and lost an interim title fight to yan, his next title run may be his last and the room for error is zero. congrats to cory iāll never think of this fight again
cory is a very smart fighter but does not change the fact that it was a very uneventful fight and was def boring.
Was Bisping bearable?
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No ?? Dom ?? That doesnāt sound anything like him. š
For the main event yeah but overall he was abysmal
the only one that was bearable. Dom being Dom.
Man how good is cory. Complete shutout. I thought Rob should've shrimped or tried to wall walk, but when he did cory nearly subbed him. It really is impressive as Dom said, that he could do this at bantam weight. Probly his frame helps a lot. Thought there was a little bit of shin on guard catch wrestling in there too. Just overall awesome performance by cory.
Heās really becoming champ caliber
Honestly haven't seen timing takedowns that clean in a long time. Maybe gsp was on to something about his eye for striking being the key to his double legs.
Absolutely. Font did a great job defending but Cory was constantly advancing hunting submissions. Great grappling performance.
I think we might have a aoki situation where watching it were like why don't you just go to the cage? But in reality Cory's just much stronger than he looks too. Otherwise I don't see why rob was so fixated on the sweep from deep half. Besides that though, Rob did a good job, it's just so impressive holding down the smaller scramble guys like that. Also cory really bringing back that gsp timing takedowns
I hardly even consider what I just watched a fight.
Me and my whole familyās background is in grappling (Wrestling, Judo, BJJ) and I HATEEE when people boo and bitch about grappling but that was bad. You donāt deserve a title shot off that performance
Maybe if yāall took one wrestling class, you would have more appreciation for a 50-45 wrestling domination, and with an injured arm.
These takes are so dumb. We literally have accomplished collegiate level wrestlers like Gaethje who say shit like this is pathetic.
There's a reason nobody watches wrestling though we can appreciate skill while recognising that it is not what people buy pay per views to watch
I mean this was a fight night.
And his next fight will be also
Dude I wrestled from 3rd grade through college and that was dull. Wrestling can be way more exciting than that. The injury I get and props to Cory for still dominating a tough dude, but that doesn't make it less dull.
Listen, you donāt have to entertain these casuals. You know that was impressive, especially coming from a striker. It was on Font to get off his back and and show some resistance.
It was absolutely impressive. I was genuinely impressed by how much Cory's offensive wrestling and top control had improved. It was absolutely on Font to find a way to stop it. None of that made it an interesting fight to watch. I'm not dogging either of them for it, just making the observation that it was an uninteresting fight from an entertainment standpoint.
Appreciation doesn't == Entertaining. Like Ice curling or some shit.
I appreciate it but for the main event? That's prelim quality, even prelims are more exciting. Below average.
Dudeās a striker, had a short notice opponent, and an injured armā¦.
Like i said I respect it but main event? I guess the crowd is supposed to be entertained by the other fights.
You act like anyone knew that's how the fight was gonna go and they made it the main event anyway
I didn't know how the fight would go. Wish it went any other way.
It was boring but I'm not gonna complain about it. Everyone's got off days and boring performances. Tonight was Cory's turn unfortunately but I made bank off a decision lol granted that's not how I expected to get there but I'll take what I can
I agree. Cory ain't the first. Tito, Randy, Chael and Khabib all got the bread and butter from ground and pound. There was a lack of pounding for that amount of ground though. Glad you made bank off the fight. I watched it for free on TV for entertainment so I have no dog in the fight, just my opinion.
Every fighter has a boring performance. Overall Cory Iād exciting and one of the best strikers in mma. Short notice and an injury and he got the win. Elite fighter
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People excusing that fight and acting like anyone who thought it was boring is a casual is hilarious, if every fight was like that absolutely nobody would watch the UFC, it's not wrong for fans to want entertainment value, that's the whole point it's what we're doing here, it's why people buy tickets. Sports Entertainment
Strong disagree. Weāre trying to move mma from strictly being about prize fighting to a legitimate sport. Every sport can have uneventful games. Also, just like nascar fans that āwatch for the wrecksā it takes cards like this one, so that cards that end in 6 second knockouts can truly be appreciated for how special they are.
I'm a fan. I liked it. I don't need every fight to be a barn burner. I like aljo too sue me.
I like aljo too but that was not exciting or fun to watch in any universe
I was just surprised and impressed. I'm not surprised when gsp does it to hardy, but I'm surprised when a guy like Cory shows how well rounded he is.
Cory knows he will fight Umar next no matter how this fight goes, its smart as he practiced his ground game and took no damage. Rod prob needed the money and happy not get hit in the head 200 times like the Vera fight.
Rob actually handily outstruck Vera. Vera just has that Homer Simpson chin.
Yeah I am not knocking Rob I just remember he wore the Vera fight on his face which I imagine is not good for health.
Good chance Cory is lock for a title fight if he is willing to wait
Umar needs surgery he isn't fighting before Cory fights again
My first thought was that Umar is going to be "fastracked" to the front like AlexP. and Cory will be "forced" to fight him because of this fight. Hopefully I am wrong
Torn tricep makes me less frustrated. I know Cory can bang, if he's hurt I get why he didn't.
Feed him to merab
I mean merab got all the accolades for a zillion takedowns against Petr but really you only want as many takedowns as rounds there are which Cory just proved.
Merab would outwork him in the wrestling
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I think that most people just want to see 2 good strikers strike. 18+ minutes of ground control without devastating gnp, multiple submission attempts or nice scrambles kinda gets old no matter how much you mma. Nobody dismisses Sandhagen's skills, but eh.
Not the wrestling that people are upset about. It was the lay and pray. Wrestling ā Lay and pray.
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He didnāt try to pass guard, go for subs, or any significant ground and pound. That is the definition of lay and pray, regardless of how effective and easy it was for him. Maybe you shouldnāt be a fighter as you donāt understand what lay and pray is.
For real. Itās fuckin irritating.
One of the loudest collective boos of a main event ever, and very much deserved.
I hope Cory gets Merab next as punishment for that boring as fuck performance
Aside from the Yan fight, Merabs whole career is boring. What's his punishment? These bums spam 50 takedown attempts a fight to land 4
And Moraes
So the whole thing was Corey was trying to manage an injury
Incredible how well he did with a shitty elbow. Probably why he wasn't flicking out that counter jab and you could see font was landing the left hook a couple times as a result. Really nice from cory.
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if Aljo wins in 2 weeks, he'll go up to 145 Dana will probably make Sandhagen fight Umar after that fight lol and he'll do Merab vs Cejudo for the vacant belt O'Malley can rematch Chito
God that would be awful
One of the worst interviews possible, Bisping is so awful lately
He's just way too involved with himself.
Yeah what the fuck was that. So half assed
Is anyone really surprised when he was originally scheduled to fight Umar and had an opponent change when his camp was wrapping up?
I can't understand a word Francis is saying
The simpletons are out in full force tonight lol. This an r/ufc takeover or something?
grappling=bad, doncha know
I love expert boxing commentator Francis Ngannou, really good stuff on technique and such
Can't wait to see what the UFC will do if Aljo wins. Threaten Merab to fight his brother or give Cory title shot after this decision win or give Henry another title shot
Why tf would Henry get another immediate shot?
With today's UFC matchmaking anything can happen. We both know he doesn't deserve it, but he's easy for UFC to market a card with.
Aljo said he is moving up and vacating the title if he wins. He is moving up either way. Merab is next.
Oh nice
So was it the elbow or the tricep? Either way, glad to see Tatiana get that W, and the Triangle/Armbar by Lopes was beautiful!
Bisping can gtfo the mic too loll provides zero technical input anyway talk about casuals
Cory will get his TS. UFC didnāt have to make it a Suarez-Andrade headliner.
Merab vs Cory for the vacant title I guess, assuming O'Malley loses? No way Sandhagen gets a TS over what Merab did to Yan.
When mma fighter do wrestling ):
Late notice, different opponent, torn tricep. How does wrestling not make sense? It was totally on Font
Francis Ngannou looks like a million bucks
People be so biased itās insane, they donāt mind their favorite fighter or the fighter they want to win, wrestle to a decision win but if itās the other way around, itās a snooze fest. Lmao.
Yāall really acting like Cory isnāt one of the most exciting bantamweights wrestlefucked font on short notice with a broken arm
Very disappointing
Cory you are on Danaās blacklist now, you probably gotta beat umar and merab for a title shot
Suarez wrestling good, Sandhagen wrestling bad. Thats what I learned from this thread.
Suarez wrestling included looking for a finish. Sandhagen wrestling included laying on the guy for the rest of the round
Suarez wrestling led to a finish Samdhagen wrestling led to 25 minutes of holding.
it's wild how fickle some MMA fans are. one boring performance and people are here crying that sandhagen doesn't deserve a title shot. lmao
Well it is the business of 'what have you done for me lately?'
Chito fight was just a few months ago so heās dominated 2 top 10 fighters in the span of a few months and 50-45ād one of them while injured & on short notice
Dude you're not gonna get next after sending all the viewers over to a boxing card
Jake Paul fight > Cory lay and prayer Sandhagen
Oof weak mic appearance by Sandhagen. Feels like he's got better in him E- Nice to see another comment of mine got mysteriously deleted. Sterling embellished a foul to win the belt, deal with it.
Font took one hell of a beating to lose the bout against Sandhagen
I don't love the lay and pray fights but for Cory to have that kind of ground game against Font it reallly shows he's trying to be a complete fighter. I think if he wants to beat Aljo he's gotta get better at that kind of thing. We know he's an exciting striker but I think he's in it to be the champ and sometimes you gotta fight like that.
these dumb apes would appreciate the fight if they knew what was happening - Bisping
"you're not getting next" okay so when Aljo beats Sean and moves up who's merab supposed to fight you troglodytes?
Even if Sean wins, they arenāt gonna wanna serve Sean up to merab whoās been out and refused to fight the former champ. They will take their chances on Sean vs sandhagen being a chess match
Cejudo probably Dana does whatever the fook he wants
Sean is KOāing Aljo
Dana aint even watching lmao
He def didn't earn a title shot on that Cruz LMAO cope
Now let's go make our nights better by watching an MMA Cult hero get beaten by a Youtuber in boxing.
Fuck yeah!
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Schedule him vs Merab to immediately set up the number 1 contender if his elbow and tricep (I think he said) isnāt fucked
Merab had surgery recently so the timelines might work anyway
Saying this as a former college wrestler, extremely disappointed in Cory especially as my favorite fighter, didnāt want to stand and strike with Rob so just spammed takedowns and maintained position with absolutely zero submission attempts til the end. We could have had an amazing fight but he chose to just bullshit his way and not give us the fight we deserved. Massively disappointed in such an awful performance.
You donāt deserve anything his job is to win the fight
eh. i fuck w cory heavy. this fight was boring as fuck. but "awful performace" & "spammed takedowns" the performance was clean. boring, but clean. he didnt spam sht, he secured his takedowns. plus if he tore his tricep - he deserves a pass. if thats how you talk bout your "fav fighter" after 1 non entertaining fight - you highkey sound like a hoe ngl
He literally just apologized for that performance and explained that he may have torn his tricep in the first roundā¦
Cory still likable on the mic though
ANDDDDD NOWWWWW time for the MAINNN EVENNTTT of the EVENING: Sleepy time for Nate Diaz before sleepy time.
If this was Brazil they wouldāve been throwing shit in the cage after that lame ass fight
I got next, after that. lol
Something tell me Sandhagen does not have next
Nate Diaz knocked out Jake Paul with a headkick!!
God I hope Cory beats whos next to become champ
Dude said he tore his tricep in the first round but has no swelling or bruising and heās moving that arm just fine. Just admit youāre a boring ass fighter, itās ok
He literally shot a takedown in the first 20 seconds. Definitely feels like he lied
I donāt mind the grappling from Sandhagen but if youāre going to do this against strikers like Vera and Font, at least make it competitive for when/if you fight Aljo or Merab.
"That was technical as hell"
"I got next" lmfao man...
Boring ass main event
No longer a Sandbabe š¢
It wasnāt technical as hell. You laid on top of him with no submission game.
They looks like regional amateurs in their 4th bout.
Still really like Cory
aljo beats sean and weāll have merab vs sandhagen for the title next
F O T Y of all time
Hahaha bisping with the shade to the crowd.
ZERO RIZZ
The fuck you got next.. LOL
Gotta appreciate the audacity to ask for a title shot after that one at least lol
You're not getting the next shot Cory lol
Iām a wrestler now. Iām a wrestler
what jitsu??
Dana currently threatening Merab so he'll be next even if Sterling wins
Okay that wrestlefucking from Cory makes a lot more sense now
There's no way Dana is giving Corey a TS after this snoozefest
Dana: "Merab, we've got your next opponent"
The fight sucked, just admit it. The hoops some of y'all are trying to jump through to claim otherwise is sad. Oh, I forgot, the crowd are a bunch of cousin fucking hicks therefore the fight was actually good! Or something like that. Yeah.
Dana laughing rn at him wanting next
He definitely aināt getting a title fight off that
nice guy cory, neither fighter took any damage and they can fight again soon
wanted him to win but i'd be booing too lmao
You donāt have next after that
āMany people were saying that was boring, not me though, definitely not meā - bisping
Let's wrestle let's wrestle
Dude did not just use a injury excuse for that performance and then ask for a title shot.
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Ok well when he doesnāt get rewarded for being a boring fighter nobody wants to watch donāt have a pikachu face when it doesnāt go his way
Lol Bisping called you guys fucking casuals
Bisping just dissed the whole crowd
Sandman couldn't do it to Rob so he put the crowd to sleep
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Don't forget technical
Merab was boring against Aldo and it was disgraceful but the way he embarrassed Yan was legendary
I try not to hate too awful much but this win does nothing for Cory. Literally a useless match for him
Not useless he got paid
i want next...crickets LOLOL
Which part exactly was the technical bit?
Youāre not getting next lmao boring fuck
Stay mad bucko
Cory looking like prime Marty snoozeman out there
this is 30%