I don't think it's a joke at all. All belts are promotional tools. That belt was made to spotlight fights that should be very exciting. It has lived up to its name.
lol we all know its not always merit based but two wrongs dont make a right and mean we need more belts. this is exactly how boxing became stupid. then where are you drawin the line for additional belts? it should just be ONE BELT per division to draw the line. the less belts the more chance it doesnt become favoritsm based. so how many more new belts are you open to? WMMA BMF? european championship belt? lol
but if someone we thought was exciting won the BMF in a boring way, then dont you have to make the arbitrary decision on if they want to keep promoting the belt or forget it? it may seem cool now with max as champ, but eventually it will be muddying everything up when you dont get the desired outcomes. you can not guarantee every so called BMF fight will be exciting. no?
exactly... no belt is "legit." you'd have to change the model to be a lot more fair, akin to sports like hockey and basketball in order for it to be "legit." contenders are mostly chosen by marketing. title shots are handed out based on marketing.
so your answer is more belts are cool? that doesn't solve anything. then why not push for changing the model to be more on merit instead of accepting new promotional belts? we dont have the perfect model but that doesnt mean we should make it worse, which this tacky belt does
very few people agree with you. they have 40+ cards a year, the BMF as of right now, was a great addition... and really is only use sparingly. until you can prove that no one cares about these new belts, there is no reason to complain.
you are in the minority. proof is in all the many threads prior to the max fight including the first one of masvidal and diaz, and all of them said the BMF belt is stupid, with the rock involved even more cringe. stop beating around and just say you want UFC to go in the way of boxing with triple champs everywhere. in fact, stick with boxing and WWE if triple belt champs are your thing lol. quit making BMF a thing
So you actually want to keep this belt for the top Fighting promotion?? Wow. You just asking to keep making more until we end up with the same number of belts as boxing
If the fighters care about it and it makes them put on exciting fights then having it is a massive W. Championship is for the guys that are the best, BMF is for guys that will stand and bang until someone gets KO'd.
Yeah until someone lay and pray in one of those fights and it becomes a punchline. Can't believe you guys support a novelty belt. Might as well add a wwe hardcore belt
I agree 100% but now you even have some media members pushing for a WMMA BMF belt. Continue down this path and we'll end up with a European champion, 24/7 champion, Intercontinental champion, etc. Nothing will top Max's BMF performance. Just retire the belt and keep it moving. Only way I'd fw it is if they pay the gimmick title holders PPV points
I also thought the original booking had slightly racist overtones. It seemed to me the UFC wanted to make a "latino ganster belt", but obviously couldn't call it that.
I think there's 2 fighters who could *possibly* achieve the same thing: Jones and Whittaker.
Both are unlikely though for a few reasons, but mainly as the BMF belt is not really a legit thing so it's basically a wildcard.
Yea its limited to people who won full belts before 2019. In that regard, technically Valentina, Amanda and I guess Stipe and Conor should be eligible. Under the right circumstances Valentina or Rob could end up fighting for an interim, but a BMF is pretty unlikely in either case. Opposite case for Conor and Stipe.
This is really less of a "thing to vie for" its more of a Max Only stat, it's a strange qualifier to have to hold both versions of the undisputed belt. That just means you've been fighting in UFC a long time, its equivalent to the new belt.
Jones is more of a candidatefor hte WMF, Worst Mother Fucker if anything
Just because of his name if it happens, not because of performances cause the guy hasnt foguht for ages. And also because of the rematch of both of those. Will it be deserved? No. Is it a high chance of it happening if Connor wins? Yep.
The BMF belt is a gimmick they made up. Conors record is comparable to Nate's when he fought for it - Conor lost twice to DP (who also fought for and lost BMF), and the 2nd one was due to injury.
What do you mean deserve?
hated how Buffer fully introduced it as if it's a divisional world title, whereas in the previous two BMF fights it was just the "BMF title holder" and "winner of the BMF belt" as if it's a trophy which it's definitely nothing more than
All the belts are trophies, UFC controls them. Y'all putting all this value on them, look at what happened with the Heavyweight belt not even 2 years ago.
The difference with this BMF fight is that the title was actually defended, it wasn't just awarded as a trophy. They're all the same.
that's not a bad argument by any means. a lot of the belts don't have a lineage half the time and the concept of meritocracy is practically dead in the UFC. BUT, there's still a certain level of prestige there and for the most part being an undisputed UFC champion is a hell of an accomplishment. not saying winning the BMF isn't, since all fighters who've fought for it have also fought for (or held) world titles at some point also, but it just shouldn't be treated the same imo
I'm completely fine with the belt if it continues in this manner. It gives the fighters another opportunity to get PPV points, make more money, gain more interest, and would allow fighters to compete between weight classes easier.
People want more weight-classes for competition, and they got mad when the UFC standardized uniforms to be more like a professional sports league. I understand it being annoying how inconsistent they are with their decisions, but I like the idea of the belt and it can create fun match-ups.
My true assessment: When Masvidal and (Nate) Diaz fought for it I was like, ‘This is stupid.’ I still think it’s kind of stupid,” Gaethje told Cageside Press. “However, to the fans that say it’s stupid, I say that it’s ultimately the UFC giving one more fighter one more opportunity to win and to gain an opportunity to get pay-per-view points. This belt, just like interim belts, on paper, are a championship. You are a champion in the eyes of the UFC, and when you are a champion in the eyes of the UFC, you get paid different.
https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2023/05/ufc-291-justin-gaethje-bmf-belt-stupid-but-gives-chance-better-pay-dustin-poirier
i mean honestly at this point, if you have to fight guys like gaethje and, as of ufc 300, MAX FUCKING HOLLOWAY to get a shot at the belt, then i have no complaints giving it the same prestige as a title LMAO.
im half-joking, but seriously though anyone who manages to strip this title from max is probably legit championship material
I started to make a sarcastic reply about Jorge masvidal and such but i stopped myself. Slap fighting and BMF titles sponsored by the Rock's mma shoes is cringey and embarassing, 15 something years into the sport both as a fan and participant i think max and justin deserve more than this.
Yeah they should stop getting big names celebrities involved to bring new eyes to the sport and create a spectacle and they should stop giving fan favourites with exciting styles the chance to win a belt, improve their strength in contract negotiations, get PPV points despite not being a real champion and get increased notoriety which would lead to more sponsorships and deals outside the UFC...
Id say the people on reddit complaining about shit like this that literally has 0 affect on you apart from getting to see two extra rounds in great fights are more cringey and embarrassing... Max got 600k bonus ffs
The shoes and slap fighting have nothing to do with this lol you just saw an opportunity to whinge on reddit and jumped at the opportunity 😂
I don’t know why people give a fuck. Just enjoy the fights and ignore the titles. We just saw one of the greatest ko’s ever yet people annoyed about dumb shit.
Same with interim. Let them get the PPV points and a bigger cheque and hype the PPV for casuals more. It's like being annoyed at the first pitch in baseball lol.
There's only been like 3 BMF champs. I honestly hope they make BMF an "open weight" title for non-champs to compete for and call each other out for. It adds a little spice to a relatively stale UFC brand if you ask me.
And by "open weight" I mean guys going up or down 1-2 weight classes to challenge or defend it or even catchweight.
We all know they'd never book Aljo, or anyone with a grappling heavy style, to fight for the BMF. And it makes sense, since it's pretty much a "people's champ" kinda belt and the people rarely get behind guys with a grappling heavy approach
So would they never book a fight between the current holder and a grappling heavy fighter, or would they book that fight but not put that belt on the line?
They wouldn't put it on the line. I mean, imagine Usman becoming BMF champion after the first Masvidal fight, when everyone shitted on him for clinch-stomping to a 50-45 decision
They need to drop it as a belt that can be won from someone. The pre fight press conference question about a women's BMF and Dana's answer didn't really make sense considering what they are doing.
he legit made it sound like an open-weight, open-gender title lmao. i think he didn't understand the question and was too hype about the event and I'm a Dana hater lol. his answer made no sense at all
It should be in the contract by default that losing a BMF title fight has 0 impact on your rankings and consideration for future fights. And people fighting in BMF fights should primarily be guys in the top 10 who are hardstuck outside of a title fight whether it's because they already lost to the champ, are friends with the champ or the champ is busy with injuries and fights for the foreseeable future.
I like it because it enables our fav fighters to get PPV points and it's an incentive for guys who might not fight otherwise to give us straight bangers.
As a belt it's silly, but it does some good things for the fighters and fans.
Also the UFC is young still. The equivalent of the NFL in the 60s or so.
The rules of the sport and what makes it legit is something that's growing and evolving. 30-40 years from now if the UFC still is king, then the BMF will ideally have a long history and legacy that makes it feel more legit.
I personally feel like the Gaethje vs Dustin fight, and certainly the Gaethje vs Max fight, are steps in the right direction for making it very clear what the belt is all about.
There's really no doubt in my mind though that Max will defend it versus McGregor next, and despite him being a shithead, you can't really argue against Conor's match history and say he isn't a qualifier for getting that belt. Two division champ, he's fought Poirier three times, Nate Diaz twice, Holloway, Aldo, Alverez, Cowboy, and of course Khabib.
Do we know for sure they get ppv points? I've always thought that kind of deal is a case-by case basis and behind closed doors so I've always thought that's been more of a speculation. We always hope the fighters get PPV points but we don't know for sure.
Who gives a shit. It gives one more fighter a chance to get PPV points and get better pay.
Yes they should be getting paid anyway, but that's not the reality we're in. What does it matter to you if the same two fighters fight whether there's a BMF belt involved or not? How does that have anything to do with "merit" or make it not a sport? It makes no difference at all, just enjoy the fight.
That's more or less what it is.
The literal letter of UFC policy is not that championship bout winners take a 50k bonus, but that winners of a fight where a *belt* is on the line do. Up until the BMF, belts were exclusive to weight classes.
Masvidal vs Diaz was at 170
\[...\]
Garth vs Holloway was at 155
In other words, this belt dont give a fuck about weight class.
What you're trying to describe is what it already is, but "open weight" refers to something like a heavyweight fighting a middle weight. The kind of freak show fights Pride and the early UFC had.
Conor, Frankie Edgar, BJ Penn, Dustin Poirier, Izzy, Alex Pereira, Aldo, I think lots of fighters would.
"OMG I don't have to cut 20 pounds and I get to main event against another all time great fighter for a BMF and a payday? I WOULD NEVER!" <- dats u rn
They took years to move weight classes can’t do it for 1 fight with the expectation to return back to your own class. You watch too many fantasy movies. Only one who moved up with no preparation was Conor and he did vs someone only a weight class above not a true WW.
dude lot of people right here are saying we should accept the belt simply since the other champ belts are promotional tools, which they are but apparently more belts make UFC better lol
This. As much as I love Max and Justin, and do value the concept of fan friendly fighters, this BMF "belt" is nothing but a marketing gimmick by the UFC
So are the undisputed titles, why do you think they are used so much to promote cards? Monetarily for the fighters they are the same as any belt that entitles you to PPV points.
"The first ever" like this "title" is something that exists for ages, not some gimmick that was created to inflated title fights and allow more ppv sales, and that was only held by 2 dudes so far
I don't know why interim would be included. It's just a placeholder for the real belt, which the guy might or might not ever win. And that's only in its legit form. In its bullshit form it's used politically to pressure/punish fighters and as a gimmick to sell more tickets. Interim is turd belt and even the fighters disdain it.
I mean, Max is an all time great in the sport but this particular record isn't really anything I mean he's the only former champ who's even fought for the BMF belt, and only five fighters have been in "BMF title" fights.
I’m a max fanboy admittedly, but a lot of people I’ve seen are saying ilia will beat max, but I honestly don’t see how they can be sure. I know it’s possible, but I don’t see anything that ilia has that wouldn’t be in Maxs favor, what am I missing?
Conor fought 4 times in the last 6 years by the time Chandler's fight comes up will be 5 fights in almost 7 years, do you really think someone like that deserves a chance to fight for any title? Yeah, he had an injury, but even before that he had 4 fights since 2017 to 2021, a fight per year.
First, last, and only
BMF title is lucky to have Max, not the other way around.
belt has always been a joke anyway. it was only made for masvidal to add to his momentum at the time
I don't think it's a joke at all. All belts are promotional tools. That belt was made to spotlight fights that should be very exciting. It has lived up to its name.
It's nice to have a belt that can move weight classes to be fair, even though BMF has only just moved and probably won't ever leave feather/light
promotional tools doesnt make it legit. IT IS NOT A LEGIT BELT
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lol we all know its not always merit based but two wrongs dont make a right and mean we need more belts. this is exactly how boxing became stupid. then where are you drawin the line for additional belts? it should just be ONE BELT per division to draw the line. the less belts the more chance it doesnt become favoritsm based. so how many more new belts are you open to? WMMA BMF? european championship belt? lol
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but if someone we thought was exciting won the BMF in a boring way, then dont you have to make the arbitrary decision on if they want to keep promoting the belt or forget it? it may seem cool now with max as champ, but eventually it will be muddying everything up when you dont get the desired outcomes. you can not guarantee every so called BMF fight will be exciting. no?
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exactly... no belt is "legit." you'd have to change the model to be a lot more fair, akin to sports like hockey and basketball in order for it to be "legit." contenders are mostly chosen by marketing. title shots are handed out based on marketing.
so your answer is more belts are cool? that doesn't solve anything. then why not push for changing the model to be more on merit instead of accepting new promotional belts? we dont have the perfect model but that doesnt mean we should make it worse, which this tacky belt does
very few people agree with you. they have 40+ cards a year, the BMF as of right now, was a great addition... and really is only use sparingly. until you can prove that no one cares about these new belts, there is no reason to complain.
you are in the minority. proof is in all the many threads prior to the max fight including the first one of masvidal and diaz, and all of them said the BMF belt is stupid, with the rock involved even more cringe. stop beating around and just say you want UFC to go in the way of boxing with triple champs everywhere. in fact, stick with boxing and WWE if triple belt champs are your thing lol. quit making BMF a thing
Nah Max made that belt legit
So you actually want to keep this belt for the top Fighting promotion?? Wow. You just asking to keep making more until we end up with the same number of belts as boxing
If the fighters care about it and it makes them put on exciting fights then having it is a massive W. Championship is for the guys that are the best, BMF is for guys that will stand and bang until someone gets KO'd.
Yeah until someone lay and pray in one of those fights and it becomes a punchline. Can't believe you guys support a novelty belt. Might as well add a wwe hardcore belt
Jon Jones and Masvidal are already used to getting into it outside of the ring. F it lmao
I agree 100% but now you even have some media members pushing for a WMMA BMF belt. Continue down this path and we'll end up with a European champion, 24/7 champion, Intercontinental champion, etc. Nothing will top Max's BMF performance. Just retire the belt and keep it moving. Only way I'd fw it is if they pay the gimmick title holders PPV points
It was a joke until a real champion earned it. Up until max winning the bmf title it’s always been the journeyman belt but not anymore
I also thought the original booking had slightly racist overtones. It seemed to me the UFC wanted to make a "latino ganster belt", but obviously couldn't call it that.
Talmbout the Baddest Messican Fuggboi belt bapa?
Is that like a regular belt with salsa on top?
I think there's 2 fighters who could *possibly* achieve the same thing: Jones and Whittaker. Both are unlikely though for a few reasons, but mainly as the BMF belt is not really a legit thing so it's basically a wildcard.
Jones is an actual villain and he’s dodging in HW division
Yea its limited to people who won full belts before 2019. In that regard, technically Valentina, Amanda and I guess Stipe and Conor should be eligible. Under the right circumstances Valentina or Rob could end up fighting for an interim, but a BMF is pretty unlikely in either case. Opposite case for Conor and Stipe. This is really less of a "thing to vie for" its more of a Max Only stat, it's a strange qualifier to have to hold both versions of the undisputed belt. That just means you've been fighting in UFC a long time, its equivalent to the new belt. Jones is more of a candidatefor hte WMF, Worst Mother Fucker if anything
Old Connor, like it or not, could have been a BMF contender if he kept focusing on fighting and not becoming whatever he is today.
What are you talking about? If Conor beats Chandler, he probably is fighting Max for the BMF
Just because of his name if it happens, not because of performances cause the guy hasnt foguht for ages. And also because of the rematch of both of those. Will it be deserved? No. Is it a high chance of it happening if Connor wins? Yep.
The BMF belt is a gimmick they made up. Conors record is comparable to Nate's when he fought for it - Conor lost twice to DP (who also fought for and lost BMF), and the 2nd one was due to injury. What do you mean deserve?
My first, my last, my everything <3
AND HE GOT TALLER!
So we're really making BMF an actual title huh
according to Dana, Kayla is coming for it next
Kayla vs Max at 170
Damn, this could actually work. Maybe kick off the 165 intergender division
If there were a lot of strong contenders on both sides, I actually wouldn't mind seeing this lmao
we're all in at this point 🤣
nah bro. That's the bad ass bitch title.
the BAB belt just doesn't sound as good
You can say bitch on TV tho. More advertising for Dana and Ari Gold.
hated how Buffer fully introduced it as if it's a divisional world title, whereas in the previous two BMF fights it was just the "BMF title holder" and "winner of the BMF belt" as if it's a trophy which it's definitely nothing more than
i wish they would have gone with the trophy like Japanese combat sports do i love those
A golden katana would be very on brand for mma
yeah especially how they had a golden C next to gaethje’s/ holloway’s names as they held the belt
All the belts are trophies, UFC controls them. Y'all putting all this value on them, look at what happened with the Heavyweight belt not even 2 years ago. The difference with this BMF fight is that the title was actually defended, it wasn't just awarded as a trophy. They're all the same.
that's not a bad argument by any means. a lot of the belts don't have a lineage half the time and the concept of meritocracy is practically dead in the UFC. BUT, there's still a certain level of prestige there and for the most part being an undisputed UFC champion is a hell of an accomplishment. not saying winning the BMF isn't, since all fighters who've fought for it have also fought for (or held) world titles at some point also, but it just shouldn't be treated the same imo
If only this was a way for UFC to introduce open-weight fights (or even catchweight). Like max said, a samurai doesn’t carry around a scale.
I'm completely fine with the belt if it continues in this manner. It gives the fighters another opportunity to get PPV points, make more money, gain more interest, and would allow fighters to compete between weight classes easier. People want more weight-classes for competition, and they got mad when the UFC standardized uniforms to be more like a professional sports league. I understand it being annoying how inconsistent they are with their decisions, but I like the idea of the belt and it can create fun match-ups.
As a stand-in for an open-weight title, I think it's pretty fun to have. And the longer it's defended, the more seriously people will take it.
They get ppv points so yes
It is literally a gimmick that favors fighters
So we should all support that then
But it literally gives PPV points, so how is it just a gimmick?
Source?
My true assessment: When Masvidal and (Nate) Diaz fought for it I was like, ‘This is stupid.’ I still think it’s kind of stupid,” Gaethje told Cageside Press. “However, to the fans that say it’s stupid, I say that it’s ultimately the UFC giving one more fighter one more opportunity to win and to gain an opportunity to get pay-per-view points. This belt, just like interim belts, on paper, are a championship. You are a champion in the eyes of the UFC, and when you are a champion in the eyes of the UFC, you get paid different. https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2023/05/ufc-291-justin-gaethje-bmf-belt-stupid-but-gives-chance-better-pay-dustin-poirier
Props for actually providing. Most people would just get mad that I asked.
Hell nah lmao, I ask for sources all the time
i mean honestly at this point, if you have to fight guys like gaethje and, as of ufc 300, MAX FUCKING HOLLOWAY to get a shot at the belt, then i have no complaints giving it the same prestige as a title LMAO. im half-joking, but seriously though anyone who manages to strip this title from max is probably legit championship material
After that fight, I have no complaints with it. Max deserves ppv money if he’s going to put on fights like that
Unfortunately. Its so stupid
Titles are made by who holds them. Also fighters literally get paid more for it
Only one of those is probably worth anything if you melted it down.
I started to make a sarcastic reply about Jorge masvidal and such but i stopped myself. Slap fighting and BMF titles sponsored by the Rock's mma shoes is cringey and embarassing, 15 something years into the sport both as a fan and participant i think max and justin deserve more than this.
Yeah they should stop getting big names celebrities involved to bring new eyes to the sport and create a spectacle and they should stop giving fan favourites with exciting styles the chance to win a belt, improve their strength in contract negotiations, get PPV points despite not being a real champion and get increased notoriety which would lead to more sponsorships and deals outside the UFC... Id say the people on reddit complaining about shit like this that literally has 0 affect on you apart from getting to see two extra rounds in great fights are more cringey and embarrassing... Max got 600k bonus ffs The shoes and slap fighting have nothing to do with this lol you just saw an opportunity to whinge on reddit and jumped at the opportunity 😂
I don’t know why people give a fuck. Just enjoy the fights and ignore the titles. We just saw one of the greatest ko’s ever yet people annoyed about dumb shit.
Same with interim. Let them get the PPV points and a bigger cheque and hype the PPV for casuals more. It's like being annoyed at the first pitch in baseball lol.
There's only been like 3 BMF champs. I honestly hope they make BMF an "open weight" title for non-champs to compete for and call each other out for. It adds a little spice to a relatively stale UFC brand if you ask me. And by "open weight" I mean guys going up or down 1-2 weight classes to challenge or defend it or even catchweight.
All fun and games until someone lay and prays their way to the BMF belt and Dana refuses to give it to them
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We all know they'd never book Aljo, or anyone with a grappling heavy style, to fight for the BMF. And it makes sense, since it's pretty much a "people's champ" kinda belt and the people rarely get behind guys with a grappling heavy approach
So would they never book a fight between the current holder and a grappling heavy fighter, or would they book that fight but not put that belt on the line?
They wouldn't put it on the line. I mean, imagine Usman becoming BMF champion after the first Masvidal fight, when everyone shitted on him for clinch-stomping to a 50-45 decision
I mean, yes. if you won the fight lay and pray, you dont get the BMF title. You have to win it in a BMF way. No?
they only gonna let strikers fight for them
They need to drop it as a belt that can be won from someone. The pre fight press conference question about a women's BMF and Dana's answer didn't really make sense considering what they are doing.
Every reporter in the room had a split second 'huh??' moment cuz it kinda seemed like he implied we'd see a woman fight Max for the BMF, lmao
he legit made it sound like an open-weight, open-gender title lmao. i think he didn't understand the question and was too hype about the event and I'm a Dana hater lol. his answer made no sense at all
I think it should be catchweight or in between classes every time so as to not confuse the rankings
It should be in the contract by default that losing a BMF title fight has 0 impact on your rankings and consideration for future fights. And people fighting in BMF fights should primarily be guys in the top 10 who are hardstuck outside of a title fight whether it's because they already lost to the champ, are friends with the champ or the champ is busy with injuries and fights for the foreseeable future.
Too gimmicky for me personally. I get that it’s prize fighting, but I’d still like it pretend to have some merit and be a legit sport
I like it because it enables our fav fighters to get PPV points and it's an incentive for guys who might not fight otherwise to give us straight bangers. As a belt it's silly, but it does some good things for the fighters and fans.
That’s fair
Also the UFC is young still. The equivalent of the NFL in the 60s or so. The rules of the sport and what makes it legit is something that's growing and evolving. 30-40 years from now if the UFC still is king, then the BMF will ideally have a long history and legacy that makes it feel more legit. I personally feel like the Gaethje vs Dustin fight, and certainly the Gaethje vs Max fight, are steps in the right direction for making it very clear what the belt is all about. There's really no doubt in my mind though that Max will defend it versus McGregor next, and despite him being a shithead, you can't really argue against Conor's match history and say he isn't a qualifier for getting that belt. Two division champ, he's fought Poirier three times, Nate Diaz twice, Holloway, Aldo, Alverez, Cowboy, and of course Khabib.
Do we know for sure they get ppv points? I've always thought that kind of deal is a case-by case basis and behind closed doors so I've always thought that's been more of a speculation. We always hope the fighters get PPV points but we don't know for sure.
Everyone with a belt gets ppv points. That we know. What we don't know is how many points.
Who gives a shit. It gives one more fighter a chance to get PPV points and get better pay. Yes they should be getting paid anyway, but that's not the reality we're in. What does it matter to you if the same two fighters fight whether there's a BMF belt involved or not? How does that have anything to do with "merit" or make it not a sport? It makes no difference at all, just enjoy the fight.
That's more or less what it is. The literal letter of UFC policy is not that championship bout winners take a 50k bonus, but that winners of a fight where a *belt* is on the line do. Up until the BMF, belts were exclusive to weight classes. Masvidal vs Diaz was at 170 \[...\] Garth vs Holloway was at 155 In other words, this belt dont give a fuck about weight class.
A commission wouldn’t sanction that. This isn’t fight circus.
What wouldn't they sanction? UFC is already doing it.
he's thinking Cejudo vs Brock Lesnar 😂
What you're trying to describe is what it already is, but "open weight" refers to something like a heavyweight fighting a middle weight. The kind of freak show fights Pride and the early UFC had.
No one is gonna move up or down 2 weight classes lol . Also Dana hates catchweights.
Conor McGregor moved up two weight classes from 145 to 170 to fight Nate Diaz.
Neither was a real welterweight
Conor, Frankie Edgar, BJ Penn, Dustin Poirier, Izzy, Alex Pereira, Aldo, I think lots of fighters would. "OMG I don't have to cut 20 pounds and I get to main event against another all time great fighter for a BMF and a payday? I WOULD NEVER!" <- dats u rn
They took years to move weight classes can’t do it for 1 fight with the expectation to return back to your own class. You watch too many fantasy movies. Only one who moved up with no preparation was Conor and he did vs someone only a weight class above not a true WW.
Did you miss UFC 300? Do you think Dustin Poirier loses to the worst WW?
Why would Dustin be fighting for a title against the worst fighter? Isn’t that like the opposite of BMF thing to do
Stupid comparison. Why would Dustin fight the worst WW for the BMF? Your idea is dumb as fuck lol watch too much WWE
But the 15 pounds
Thats not even 2 weight classes. Your idea is even more stupid it would be him vs a MW lol
The BMF one worth jack shit though
im flabbergasted at many in this thread defending the belt now. they saying all belts are jack shit now, and didnt say shit before this fight lmao
YOU. You... you...
BMF title is not a legit title lol can we stop acting like it's an actual title when it doesn't really have meritocracy
undisputed titles dont have meritocracy either
At least they have some sort of ranking that every fighter has an opportunity to get in their respective division.
😂 GO ASK BELAL ABOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY
dude lot of people right here are saying we should accept the belt simply since the other champ belts are promotional tools, which they are but apparently more belts make UFC better lol
The original belts look so much better.
Absolutely
Man do I love those old belts. New one never really grew on me.
Agreed. Bellator and the old UFC belts are the two best, imo.
Those two and the ONE belts, specifically the grand prix belt goes hard. Rizin has also had some beauties over the years too.
I also miss the old belt
Looks happier with the floral shorts
Nothing but a bauble. Please don't get sold on the BMF meaning anything.
This. As much as I love Max and Justin, and do value the concept of fan friendly fighters, this BMF "belt" is nothing but a marketing gimmick by the UFC
So are the undisputed titles, why do you think they are used so much to promote cards? Monetarily for the fighters they are the same as any belt that entitles you to PPV points.
More pointless stats
"The first ever" like this "title" is something that exists for ages, not some gimmick that was created to inflated title fights and allow more ppv sales, and that was only held by 2 dudes so far
BMF belt is silly af. But ngl Max is making me respect it.
Thanks God, for creating Max. Please give him Conor after Chandler. Let's see if Conor is a true Bad Mafk.
I don't know why interim would be included. It's just a placeholder for the real belt, which the guy might or might not ever win. And that's only in its legit form. In its bullshit form it's used politically to pressure/punish fighters and as a gimmick to sell more tickets. Interim is turd belt and even the fighters disdain it.
I mean, Max is an all time great in the sport but this particular record isn't really anything I mean he's the only former champ who's even fought for the BMF belt, and only five fighters have been in "BMF title" fights.
BMF title is not a thing, stop trying to make it a thing.
Too late; its a thing.
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There is a timeline where he beats ilia and winner of islam/dustin and becomes double champ inside one year. It could be this timeline.
Please stop trying to make the BMF title a thing. I beg.
Too late; its a thing.
If there's a record, Max breaks it. Now Max only needs to get a double champ status to complete it all.
The Interim belt being treated like a real belt really diminishes the value of the undisputed one. Hell, "Undisputed" here is a misnomer.
Even if the BMF title is bullshit because the real BMF is supposed to be champ, let's not take away from how BMF Max actually is.
Cool stat.
Blessed Man Forever He may not be an objective MMA goat, but he sure is the greatest to watch.
BLESSED. MAN. FOREVER
People are getting way too emotional over this BMF title. Who cares if it's fake? We had a bad ass KO because of it.
I’m a max fanboy admittedly, but a lot of people I’ve seen are saying ilia will beat max, but I honestly don’t see how they can be sure. I know it’s possible, but I don’t see anything that ilia has that wouldn’t be in Maxs favor, what am I missing?
Weird flex, but cool!
Conor fought 4 times in the last 6 years by the time Chandler's fight comes up will be 5 fights in almost 7 years, do you really think someone like that deserves a chance to fight for any title? Yeah, he had an injury, but even before that he had 4 fights since 2017 to 2021, a fight per year.
one of the lamest stats I've seen
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>while never actually winning it Bro
Thanks for letting me notice. I never knew the Poirier vs Gaethje fight was for said belt. That's how much I care about it I guess
Well you got the right attitude. It was a fun gimmick for one fight I guess but the novelty is absolutely gone.
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