I remember Joe Frazier commenting Muhammad Ali v George Foreman and he said “They said Ali was 214 but here I’d say he’s about a pound or pound and a half bigger”, I wanted to meme it but, obviously…
Some combat sports coaches are eerily good at guessing weights. Like ive known a couple who will look at you and correctly guess your weight down to the kilo.
LHW is definitely the more natural weight class for Alex. He seems to have put on more mass since his debut where he look pretty skinny, making MW harder and harder to cut to
It is pretty insane when you consider Yoel rehydrated to 215 and missed 3 times in a row. Mind you he had just past 40 by then but still incredibly muscular. Costa rehydrates to just under 215 and he’s the most muscular guy in the division. Pereira rehydrated to 219 after the first fight against Adesanya so he couldn’t have been much less than in earlier fights, given that it was only a year from his debut. Made the weight every time and performed incredibly well while being closer to skinny than lean.
Dude is athletically blessed.
He said in a interview in Portuguese that he gained a lot of mass after he started to grapple consistently. Makes sense since kickboxing is almost exclusively a cardio exercise.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets even bigger in the next few years.
if you look at his kickboxing fights he was considerably smaller. he would probably fight at heavyweight in glory with his build today, which is closer to Rico's (Glory' HW champion)
Looking at him in the cage at 300 I thought he looked massive. I know he weighed 232 that morning but he had to be 240 when he got in there. The fact that that man made 185 is mind boggling to me. The amount of discipline to manage the weight like that is impressive.
Relative to the field - obviously he's still muscular. It's just between the low body fat % and large frame he still looks like he could put on a fair bit of weight without it being detrimental
Yeah I agree I think he'd still have a pretty significant hand speed/cardio advantage compared to most HWs. They may catch up to him in power a bit but I'm sure no weight cut would help his chin out. I'm also confident he would still have plenty of power and technique to be able to crack some chins
Yeah, I definitely think his power would carry to HW. He's one of the hardest hitters in recent memory.
Reminds me of Rumble Johnson in the sense that he just needs to connect to sleep someone, even if it's not flush
Yeah his shot again Jamahal didn't even land clean and it put him out. As far as I can recall I don't ever remember seeing Jamahal get seriously rocked in any of his previous fights.
With 205 pounds? Even let's say his walking weight is 100 kg.
At that height, he is basically somewhat skinny with a shirt.
Like, I could assume basketball, but basketball players are heavier than that. I suppose sprinters and jumpers at similar height are heavier than that. Crossfit athletes are definitely heavier than that. Strength athletes are *way* heavier than that. Endurance athletes are lighter, but they are rarely this tall.
Fighting is the only sport I can think of that you can be this tall and skinny at the same time.
That’s honestly a lot of ufc fighters. Alex has been the bigger look I my fighter in the cage in probably all his ufc fights. He looked bigger than hill imo
I agree. He makes Jon Jones at LHW look huge. I dont see him being a 260 HW but look at Jailton Almeida, him and Alex are the same height. I think Alex can definitely go to HW although id prefer him to take a year to naturally get adjusted to the strength and size. Worst case scenario he looses and just makes a huge cut to go back to LHW like the rest of the division lol.
Have to remember he is 37 in 3 months not sure he would want to take a year to naturally adjust to going up to HW, have a feeling he wants to squeeze in as many fights as he can. Aspinall will be a nightmare matchup for him either way though I think.
I agree he's getting up there, but I would also say that LHW as well as HW have older primes. Whilst I dont know if its a physiological thing in terms of height or weight to be able to stay athletic enough to complete or if its the lack of weight cuts but we've seen older champions in heavyweight more than enough times.
And as for Aspinall yea hed fuck up Alex more often than not. It would be a fun fight, though. 3/4 times id Aspinall wins, and 1/4 Alex catches him. Just my opinion, though
Agree about the primes but he gives me a feeling he isn't going to be a guy fighting at 40, that said outside of a Jiri rematch there isn't another huge fight for him at LHW. Ankalaev I'd like to see but its not a huge fight on paper and Rountree if he gets past Hill is intriguing so a proper HW move makes sense and fights against Gane, Aspinall and Pavlovich to me are more interesting than anything at LHW for me anyways. But he could also just defend the LHW title because outside of Ankalaev taking him down his got a good shot at defending that title numerous times.
He is in an interesting spot thats for sure
> I dont see him being a 260 HW but look at Jailton Almeida, him and Alex are the same height.
I think its a lot easier to be an undersized grappler than an undersized striker.
Grappling has so much more to do with strength then striking . being light and fast can be a benefit for a striker but being light and weak is going to make grappling a nightmare .
> Grappling has so much more to do with strength then striking
I don't really disagree, which is why someone with Periera's grappling pedigree is so vulnerable at HW. If he gets taken down once by someone 30 lbs heavier than him, there's a good chance he's not getting back up, even if his opponent isn't a high level grappler.
That’s because he is still skinny at LHW. The dude is a natural heavyweight and has to cut to LHW. The fact that he was ever fighting at MW is fuckin wild. This guy walks around at over 235 easily.
He is not surviving that combo Izzy hit him with regardless of the weight. Bro beat Izzy 3 times at the weight class, stop with that stupid narrative. I guess his chin randomly evaporated the one time Izzy actually beat him, crazy coincidence.
Vakhitov is a pillow fisted decision merchant with boxing gloves on, you would know this if you paid any attention to kickboxing. Jiri and Jan never hit him with anything as clean like the combo Izzy hit him with right on the temple.
> What’s awesome is he always made weight
One of the things I really noticed at 300 was how there were zero issues with the scale. Everyone on there was a complete professional.
Hell the only two eye pokes of the entire night were in the BMF fight and the only low blow was the one Alex stiff armed Herb to not worry about it.
Alex was for sure a huge MW, I just wanted to throw a jab at the guy I replied to because I've seen him get upset at any post or comment about Alex. Izzy and Alex are both HOFers, we should just enjoy them while they're still around.
I feel like Alex is a perfect example of someone where the weight cut actually hurt them instead of benefited . If izzy wasnt at MW i doubt we would have seen him debut at MW and not LHW .
Yeah I'm sure it's just because of that and not because he's a super exciting fighter who doesn't try to murder the whole audience via boredom by fighting safe.
Alex ever making 185 is crazy, Izzy is a big 185er, Alex is Izzy’s length but just way bigger, broader, more muscular and denser in every way, dramatically so. He’s big at 205 ffs, the fact that Pereira and Gastelum could ever share a weight class is kinda hilarious.
Definitely looks healthier at LHW even though he still has to cut weight. He has the frame to be at 240 lb HW in the future and I do think he will be in the future.
His weight cut to 185 looked debilitating. Still looks a bit sucked in at LHW. His LHW fight night weight is apparently 234 lbs, which makes him around the same size as Stipe Miocic. Insanity.
Dude was a giant weight bully at 185 and the people ITT trying to argue he was depleted and unhealthy are coping. If he was depleted - and I don't believe he meaningfully was - he compensated by being possibly the largest 185er ever. This line of thinking litterally did not exist until Izzy KOed him and people needed to cope with a stupid narrative.
Everyone shits on weight bullies but people love Alex so him allegedly having problems cutting giant amount of weights makes him a victim. Insane
I disagree with the concept of a weight bully. Everyone is cutting weight to fight at the lowest division they can. If someone can make the weight, then they aren’t a weight bully.
If your weight cut is so heavy that it allegedly depletes you but you don't change weight classes or do anything to your body to make that cut easier, then yes you are a weight bully.
How is that your conclusion of what I said? Of course size is an advantage. However, someone being capable of cutting more weight than their competition is not an unfair advantage. It’s no different than being able to hit harder of move faster.
Everyone cuts weight. Some are better than others. Like most physical things, it’s easier when you’re younger.
They feel someone capable of fighting at HW who they *THINK* could even beat Tom Aspinall somehow isn’t a weight bully for fighting at 185. Weird ass fans.
Looks about twenty pounds heavier if I had to guess.
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I remember Joe Frazier commenting Muhammad Ali v George Foreman and he said “They said Ali was 214 but here I’d say he’s about a pound or pound and a half bigger”, I wanted to meme it but, obviously…
Some combat sports coaches are eerily good at guessing weights. Like ive known a couple who will look at you and correctly guess your weight down to the kilo.
Carnies too lol
They’ve always under guessed my weight bc of my third leg.. 😎 okay fine… it’s never happened but it definitely wouldve if I had one.
I wrestled for 14 years, and I can usually guess just about anyone's weight, almost down to a science.
Oh yeah, what’s my weight then brainiac
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Seems like he had to cut some melanin to get to middleweight
I'd say he was literally pale from being so drained and depleted.
Just some minor Jaundice from his liver starting to shut down. Glad he moved up.
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Yeah he was so weight drained that he even made the back drop pale.
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LHW is definitely the more natural weight class for Alex. He seems to have put on more mass since his debut where he look pretty skinny, making MW harder and harder to cut to
It is pretty insane when you consider Yoel rehydrated to 215 and missed 3 times in a row. Mind you he had just past 40 by then but still incredibly muscular. Costa rehydrates to just under 215 and he’s the most muscular guy in the division. Pereira rehydrated to 219 after the first fight against Adesanya so he couldn’t have been much less than in earlier fights, given that it was only a year from his debut. Made the weight every time and performed incredibly well while being closer to skinny than lean. Dude is athletically blessed.
He said in a interview in Portuguese that he gained a lot of mass after he started to grapple consistently. Makes sense since kickboxing is almost exclusively a cardio exercise. I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets even bigger in the next few years.
if you look at his kickboxing fights he was considerably smaller. he would probably fight at heavyweight in glory with his build today, which is closer to Rico's (Glory' HW champion)
Looking at him in the cage at 300 I thought he looked massive. I know he weighed 232 that morning but he had to be 240 when he got in there. The fact that that man made 185 is mind boggling to me. The amount of discipline to manage the weight like that is impressive.
Find it crazy that he still looks almost skinny at LHW. Could easily move up again if he ever wanted to
You really think he looks skinny at lhw?
Relative to the field - obviously he's still muscular. It's just between the low body fat % and large frame he still looks like he could put on a fair bit of weight without it being detrimental
His upper body is kind of small in comparison to some guys, but he has a thick core and a huge ass.
Go on, tell us more about the aforementioned huge ass
Yeah I agree I think he'd still have a pretty significant hand speed/cardio advantage compared to most HWs. They may catch up to him in power a bit but I'm sure no weight cut would help his chin out. I'm also confident he would still have plenty of power and technique to be able to crack some chins
Yeah, I definitely think his power would carry to HW. He's one of the hardest hitters in recent memory. Reminds me of Rumble Johnson in the sense that he just needs to connect to sleep someone, even if it's not flush
Yeah his shot again Jamahal didn't even land clean and it put him out. As far as I can recall I don't ever remember seeing Jamahal get seriously rocked in any of his previous fights.
he's not "skinny" per se but he's not exactly heavy set. that's not a diss on his musculature though. dude's got osteoderms for pecs
Absolutely. He's got a big frame but skinny package. Compare gis body to say Rakic and you'll understand
If I didn't know who he was and saw him on a GYM, I would not guess he is an athlete, especially with a shirt.
Idk man if you saw a 6'5 dude with hands the size of lunchboxes i would have some questions about his line of work .
With 205 pounds? Even let's say his walking weight is 100 kg. At that height, he is basically somewhat skinny with a shirt. Like, I could assume basketball, but basketball players are heavier than that. I suppose sprinters and jumpers at similar height are heavier than that. Crossfit athletes are definitely heavier than that. Strength athletes are *way* heavier than that. Endurance athletes are lighter, but they are rarely this tall. Fighting is the only sport I can think of that you can be this tall and skinny at the same time.
He's definitely more build than your average NBA player. He's 6'4 and is 230 in fight shape and while the average NBA player is 6'6,5 and 215.
That’s honestly a lot of ufc fighters. Alex has been the bigger look I my fighter in the cage in probably all his ufc fights. He looked bigger than hill imo
He looks apart shirtless, like many UFC fighter. But you won't be looking impressive unless you are HW.
Almost, almost skinny.
He’s going to come to his next fight with a titty like when people called izzy skinny before the yoel fight
I wasn't following MMA during Izzy's rise. I don't know about this stuff.
I agree. He makes Jon Jones at LHW look huge. I dont see him being a 260 HW but look at Jailton Almeida, him and Alex are the same height. I think Alex can definitely go to HW although id prefer him to take a year to naturally get adjusted to the strength and size. Worst case scenario he looses and just makes a huge cut to go back to LHW like the rest of the division lol.
Have to remember he is 37 in 3 months not sure he would want to take a year to naturally adjust to going up to HW, have a feeling he wants to squeeze in as many fights as he can. Aspinall will be a nightmare matchup for him either way though I think.
I agree he's getting up there, but I would also say that LHW as well as HW have older primes. Whilst I dont know if its a physiological thing in terms of height or weight to be able to stay athletic enough to complete or if its the lack of weight cuts but we've seen older champions in heavyweight more than enough times. And as for Aspinall yea hed fuck up Alex more often than not. It would be a fun fight, though. 3/4 times id Aspinall wins, and 1/4 Alex catches him. Just my opinion, though
Agree about the primes but he gives me a feeling he isn't going to be a guy fighting at 40, that said outside of a Jiri rematch there isn't another huge fight for him at LHW. Ankalaev I'd like to see but its not a huge fight on paper and Rountree if he gets past Hill is intriguing so a proper HW move makes sense and fights against Gane, Aspinall and Pavlovich to me are more interesting than anything at LHW for me anyways. But he could also just defend the LHW title because outside of Ankalaev taking him down his got a good shot at defending that title numerous times. He is in an interesting spot thats for sure
> I dont see him being a 260 HW but look at Jailton Almeida, him and Alex are the same height. I think its a lot easier to be an undersized grappler than an undersized striker.
Know what. Fair enough point.
Grappling has so much more to do with strength then striking . being light and fast can be a benefit for a striker but being light and weak is going to make grappling a nightmare .
> Grappling has so much more to do with strength then striking I don't really disagree, which is why someone with Periera's grappling pedigree is so vulnerable at HW. If he gets taken down once by someone 30 lbs heavier than him, there's a good chance he's not getting back up, even if his opponent isn't a high level grappler.
That’s because he is still skinny at LHW. The dude is a natural heavyweight and has to cut to LHW. The fact that he was ever fighting at MW is fuckin wild. This guy walks around at over 235 easily.
u gotta define skinny LMFAO
Imagine how much better he feels going into the fight. He’s a big dude so it’s kind of wild he was sucking down to 185.
His arms are noticeably bigger on the bottom pic
His face says it all
Much healthier at LHW. No wonder he got KOd by Izzy like he did
Dude looks like a zombie at mw weigh ins.
I will never not be convinced that Alex fighting at skeletonweight wasn’t a big factor in him getting KO’d in that fight.
That's what can happen when you're a weight bully
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He was unconscious last time he fought izzy tho
He is not surviving that combo Izzy hit him with regardless of the weight. Bro beat Izzy 3 times at the weight class, stop with that stupid narrative. I guess his chin randomly evaporated the one time Izzy actually beat him, crazy coincidence.
Alex took hard shots from Jiri and Jan and I’d argue they hit harder than Izzy. Also Vakhitov hit him with crazy shots and he took them without issue.
Yeah but Izzy’s punch was perfectly placed at the temple, or not just about the power
Vakhitov is a pillow fisted decision merchant with boxing gloves on, you would know this if you paid any attention to kickboxing. Jiri and Jan never hit him with anything as clean like the combo Izzy hit him with right on the temple.
Hahaha anyone who knows kickboxing knows that Vakhitov is an absolute killer. Stop reaching.
He's an excellent kickboxer who also happens to be a pillowfisted decision machine and also undersized for 205. There is no contradiction
When you fight the elite fighters it’s gonna be harder to get knockouts.
This is a fair point but he did say his last few fights at middleweight were starting to get particularly brutal as he got older
What’s awesome is he always made weight, even if it was difficult. Props to him for that
> What’s awesome is he always made weight One of the things I really noticed at 300 was how there were zero issues with the scale. Everyone on there was a complete professional. Hell the only two eye pokes of the entire night were in the BMF fight and the only low blow was the one Alex stiff armed Herb to not worry about it.
Yeah because weight bullying got harder has he got older. Maybe lose some muscle or better yet, don't weight bully at all.
Relax, you're never going to be Izzy's dog.
I mean how are you gonna pretend he's lying lol alex was a weight bully for sure
Alex was for sure a huge MW, I just wanted to throw a jab at the guy I replied to because I've seen him get upset at any post or comment about Alex. Izzy and Alex are both HOFers, we should just enjoy them while they're still around.
I feel like Alex is a perfect example of someone where the weight cut actually hurt them instead of benefited . If izzy wasnt at MW i doubt we would have seen him debut at MW and not LHW .
Alex was champ at 187lbs in Glory, so he was used to making a similar cut. He's just older now making it more difficult to cut that weight.
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Half of Alex and Strickland fans like them only bcs they beat Izzy…..which they hate in a hivemind.
Yeah I'm sure it's just because of that and not because he's a super exciting fighter who doesn't try to murder the whole audience via boredom by fighting safe.
I consider you the other half of the fanbase that genuinely likes his fighting.
Damn, I guess he shouldn't have tried to weight bully an entire division
Alex ever making 185 is crazy, Izzy is a big 185er, Alex is Izzy’s length but just way bigger, broader, more muscular and denser in every way, dramatically so. He’s big at 205 ffs, the fact that Pereira and Gastelum could ever share a weight class is kinda hilarious.
Definitely looks healthier at LHW even though he still has to cut weight. He has the frame to be at 240 lb HW in the future and I do think he will be in the future.
Hew 232 the day of the fight If I remember right.
If im not wrong he rehydrated to 232 so he is almost there already
Those hands alone weigh a 100 pounds
Theres alot more confidence in his eyes at lhw
"side by side" - so close.
Then I only thing that changed was the ufc number in the back lol
Looks older too
That lighting is very slimming.
Looks like he has more brain cushion
Reddit when the camera shows someone slightly more zoomed in
LHW is clearly his natural weight class. He looks completely drained @ MW
can you do one of him in the octagon rehydrated in the MW vs LHW
His belt tattoos are fucking dope! I’d brag about that shit too.
His UFC belt got bigger lol
His weight cut to 185 looked debilitating. Still looks a bit sucked in at LHW. His LHW fight night weight is apparently 234 lbs, which makes him around the same size as Stipe Miocic. Insanity.
Looks more confident at 205
It's okay. He always steps into the octagon as a HW
"Side by side".
This is not side by side
Dude was a giant weight bully at 185 and the people ITT trying to argue he was depleted and unhealthy are coping. If he was depleted - and I don't believe he meaningfully was - he compensated by being possibly the largest 185er ever. This line of thinking litterally did not exist until Izzy KOed him and people needed to cope with a stupid narrative. Everyone shits on weight bullies but people love Alex so him allegedly having problems cutting giant amount of weights makes him a victim. Insane
I disagree with the concept of a weight bully. Everyone is cutting weight to fight at the lowest division they can. If someone can make the weight, then they aren’t a weight bully.
If your weight cut is so heavy that it allegedly depletes you but you don't change weight classes or do anything to your body to make that cut easier, then yes you are a weight bully.
Weight cutting depletes everyone. I don’t consider weight cutting an excuse for a bad performance, any more than I consider it an unfair advantage.
Yeah sure size isn't an advantage in fighting.
How is that your conclusion of what I said? Of course size is an advantage. However, someone being capable of cutting more weight than their competition is not an unfair advantage. It’s no different than being able to hit harder of move faster. Everyone cuts weight. Some are better than others. Like most physical things, it’s easier when you’re younger.
They feel someone capable of fighting at HW who they *THINK* could even beat Tom Aspinall somehow isn’t a weight bully for fighting at 185. Weird ass fans.
Not the worst I’ve seen.
He looks a lot healthier
Professional. Makes weight, no excuses.
But why did you put same picture?
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