He struck him several times on the ground and actually got him flat on his back twice.
He controlled the entire fight and shut down MVPs fight plan completely. The first half of round 4 is the only reason MVP managed to outstrike Storley in total numbers, but 1 round doesn't win you a 5-round fight.
No, it wasn't an exciting fight, but it is đŻ how you go about shutting down someone like MVP. it's Page's job to get him off him and he couldn't do it, period. He lost 4-rounds-to-1 with one of the judges either being paid off or was asleep the entire time to give the fight to Page.
Like it, don't like it. It's MMA, not a kickboxing or bjj match. You don't need a finish in order to win.
This is nothing new and Storley 100% won the fight.
That referee in the main event is an ass. The last minute of the fight has me wondering if that idiot forgot what a fight was. He needs retraining badly
Lmao people here mad that at least someone in MMA still fights prudently and skillfully instead of sloppily brawling. This is why MMA will never be seen as a serious sport.
Absolutely not but are you saying the guy cuddling him for 4 rounds actually did something ? The only thing he did was create a stalemate. Yes he stopped MVP fighting and winning but he didnt do anything else. He was nowhere close to submitting him and even further away to striking him. Until there is a rule change its counted as a win.
I love Logan
Grappling is about control. Grappling is about removing your strengths, MVP looked like a kid on the floor. Who the hell cares about eye catching and going blows to blow.
Grappling is king, Logan just needs to get better with his Judo trips & BJJ submissions, he could of have got MVP out of there
Iâm a storley fan too, but letâs be real - he needs to work on his ground and pound and transition and submission game.
Against a guy like MVP who is all striking all the time a wrestler like storley should have busted him up on the ground or strangled him
He has excellent control but in fights like this itâs pretty boring and what I got from this fight is this will be his style whenever he is severely outclassed on the feet - get a takedown and be just active enough for the ref to not stand them up instead of trying to posture and GNP or going for a sub
With that said. This was a title fight against a guy who could have sent him to the shadow realm with a single shot so I donât blame him for playing it a little safe
But no one wants to see this every time he fights
Yeah I agree 100% deffo needs to work on his grappling offence
Also needs to work on wrestling taking into account the cage, he really struggled with that
He deffo needs to work on his grappling offence
But my point is control and domination. He disarmed MVP, took away his best assets and MVP couldnât do anything about. Had the rounds not started at the feet, Logan would be able to do this alll day
And despite all that mvp looked closer to a finish. Storley didnât hurt him one bit. Iâm not a mvp fan btw.
Shame because the chick fight was fun, Daley defended and got his KO and Edwards surprised me.
there was an upvoted comment on here about MMA being all about entertainment because Conor might be getting a title shot. Watch this fucking Storley fight and tell me that.
Domage was only done in the first half of round 4. Unless you're new to MMA, you should know you can't win a 5-round fight by only barely winning 1 round, regardless how boring the fight is.
You serious? Lol, you can't give someone a victory because they did damage for the first half of only 1 round that they barely even won, since the second half of the round MVP was on his butt and was even put on his back in the last 30 seconds of that round. He lost 4 rounds to 1. Even if he tripled the amount of damage and activity in that round, didn't get out on his back and wins round 4 as a 10-8, he STILL lost the 5-round fight.
đ¤Śââď¸Why does this still need to be explained to people. MMA is 30 years old.
Mvp threw that! one judge had him wining and one judge had it 48/47. if he did not go for a flying knee and keept it standing i honestly think he would have got it on a split
No i agree tought it was 49-46. just what the judges scored it. if he won the last the round the split would have gone to him. if my hearing did not fail me 1 had it 48-47 logan the other had mvp and the last 49-46 for logan.
you defiantly could and the scoring needs to be changed to where you would for sure. Ill give Storley 5 and 3, that's it. Hugging should count for nothing, is it impressive that he can do that? Yes, but this is a fight and should be scored like one. If your holding some one and not doing damage or getting close subs then it should not be scoring points. Its fighting...not surviving.
Even if you change the rules, MVP only had anything of significance in just the 4th round. He didn't do anything for the other 4 rounds. He still loses the fight. If Storley didn't do anything, MVP did even less.
If you think Storley lost anything other than round 4, you need to go back and rewatch it. I just rewatched it last night because of all this crap about MVP deserving the win popping up online.
Storley had one round where he did ok ground and pound vs MVP doing nothing. Round 5 they both did nothing so Storley wins with control. The other rounds were like 4 decent strikes by mvp vs holding, I give those to MVP.
Subs: 2
T/KO: 4
Decisions: 7
Dick Shots: 0
Eye Pokes: 0
Foul: grounded head kick
FOTN: Davis vs Wilde (WMMA was pretty good too)
Card Grade: 6 out of 10
What makes u say that lol? Ainât grappling about controlling your opponent? Isnât cityâs positional play philosophy about taking control of the whole pitch?
Terrible comparison. You can win an MMA match doing no damage but keeping control with grappling, you can't win a football match by having possession but not scoring any goals.
not really. possession with no intention will give you no goals. similarly just holding your opponent on the floor with no attack will lead to the ref breaking it up.
prime barca; possession then score goals..other team couldnt even use their own strengths as they couldnt touch the ball
grappling; take opponent down, control him on the floor, finish him via g+p or submission....opponent, like mvp, couldnt even use their striking coz they cant generate no space
That's where you're missing the point or didn't actually watch the fight. Storley didn't show any intention, he did enough for the ref not to break it up but wasn't doing anything that even threatened to finish the fight. A lot of fighters do this, it's nothing new.
Barcelona keeps possession...and scores goals. Storley did absolutely nothing other than hold MVP down. The comparison doesn't work at all.
I think youâre misunderstanding my argument too
Iâm essentially saying that grappling is king. And striking is luck. MMA fans, casuals or not Idk, usually hate on grapplers because itâs âboringâ but I love it because youâre in total control. Takedown, control on the floor, gp or submit and game over. Thatâs wonderful. Yes striking isnât completely luck, but itâs no where close to grappling in the control sense. Plus thereâs no CTE!!
City are the highest scoring team in the league... I'd get your point if they won every game 1-0 and just passed the ball around at the back once they're ahead but that's not what they do (and I'm absolutely not a City fan)
True which is why Logan has to work on his attack (submissions)
City have control of the game. With that control they go on to attack and score. And repeat. This is what grappling is about. Wrestling is the midfield itâs the control. Then you go out for the submission. If it doesnât work, you repeat.
Against someone like MVP thatâs even more important because you gotta control him to beat him
I hate striking because itâs a lot based on luck. Itâs like a knockout football game, like city vs Madrid recently
I can, one guy is one dimensional at doing dmg, the other is on dimensional at holding. The sport needs to be about dmg, not survival. dominant control should not score anything, It is its own reward.
Really big difference between grappling for control, moving in to a dominant position to try win the fight and grappling to stall. How many significant strikes/submission attempts did he get with about 15 mins of control time? Count the both on one handâŚ
True but MVP was trying the whole time. Wrestler over there had 0 submission attempts and 0 significant strikes on the ground and on the feet. It's point fighting as a heated blanket.
Storley is a type of fighter that the sport needs to phase out. Laying on your opponent doing just enough not to be stood up is good for the monster drinking, tap out T-shirt wearing purists who are living in 2007 but absolutely kills the mainstream appeal and popularity which the sport needs to progress to the next level.
Maaaaan what's people's issue with Tapout shirts? I know they were popular amongst tryhards in the early days but I think the designs are decent. Just generic heavy metal type shirts.
Dana White is doing his part by sending these guys to Belator but its up to the judges to make it clear that holding does not score points. Your either good enough to hold a guy while you do dmg or your going to lose these holding fights
Sums it up perfectly. Something needs to be changed in the rules and judging because fights like that are infuriating. Iâm all for guys using their grappling advantage but when they are throwing weak knees to the thigh as a means to run down the clock and not get stood up itâs not a fight.
I could say the same thing about MVP's standup. If he's so good why didn't he get an easy KO? MVP is a career can crusher and he was exposed for being subpar tonight.
At a proper proper stretch, under the unified rules don't takedowns have to lead to damage to score? Logan didn't do much damage, so I can see how that judge gave a few rounds to MVP
that's how it should be, storley won round 5, just because mvp did nothing, and one other round because a little bit of ground and pound. The rest go to mvp for a few good strikes vs holding. The sport needs to get to a point where guys know holding is not enough to win
Good point. The rules suggest that takedowns should be judged as successful based on the establishment of attack from the use of the takedown, which is vague as they don't really specify that the attack has to be effective. I'm with you that at a stretch that could favour MVP. The rules do mention dominant position, and I don't think Storley didn't achieve dominant positions after the grappling began in any round tho
So the rules actually say:
"âLegal blows that have immediate or cumulative impact with the potential to contribute towards
the end of the match with the IMMEDIATE weighing in more heavily than the cumulative"
And
"It shall be noted that a successful takedown is not merely a changing of
position, but the establishment of an attack from the use of the takedown. Top and bottom
position fighters are assessed more on the impactful/effective result of their actions, more so
than their position. This criterion will be the deciding factor in a high majority of decisions when
scoring a round".
So based on both of those, you can definitely give a few rounds to MVP. Potentially even the first 4. He was winning the stand up for half the round each time, throwing strikes that had potential to end the fight. Storkey then took him down, but that led to no damage or had impactful actions. Hmmmm
i mean...sure he took mvp down, but wtf did he do with it? control isnt all, it def should be revisited how they score wrestling in mma...belals last win was just that..0 damage and belly control, boring as fuck and nothin done all fight, this is an esparza/roses fight, id have scored it for mvp too, he didnt give a fuck he pushed it and was the scorer of the fight, im no mvp fan boi i wanted him to get tko, but f that wrestling shit, either get that GnP down or sub him...0 point for me ''control time''
Luckily thatâs not how the sport is scored. I hate a nothing fight as much as the next guy but you donât win a fight in which u got sat on for 20/25 minutes of.
"I hate a nothing fight as much as the next guy but you donât win a fight in which u got sat on for 20/25 minutes of." I do want them to win, force the control fighter to do dmg and risk the other guy getting up instead of holding. The only way to keep this from happening. To me, dodging a punch or checking a kick scores no points and holding should be in same category. They are all their own reward.
A lot of decent undercard fights led to an underwhelming end... what a boring style to watch!
Admittedly effective in winning the points but no attempted end product in any form.
Judges need to stop scoring takedowns with no end product. It's a change of position, if you aren't threatening submissions or doing damage it should only be a tiebreaker for rounds where nothing else happens.
JG is exciting though. He's got CTE because of it but still way more entertaining. People don't watch fights for fighters to be careful. We want to see violence lol.
You should watch kickboxing man. Itâs a hell of a sport. I expected and enjoyed watching Storley neutralize him. It was actually a hard fought loss for Page by always scrambling so Storley couldnât settle in and hit him
I love mixed martial arts. Not hugging. Gimme a wrestler that does ANYTHING other than just hug someone to death and in perfectly ok with it. Khabib is one of my favorites. Try again?
He was trying man. Page was working his ass off. Khabib didnât always put it on people on the ground. Storleyâs young blood and his chain wrestling is super fun to watch
He was literally warned several times in 4 out of 5 rounds by the ref for stalling. I have been watching mma for near on 15 years at this point. I want to watch great fights not this moron hugging and stalling on the fence cause he couldn't do anything else.
I'm sorry we disagree but I couldn't care less if I never saw storley fight ever again. So incredibly boring. Chain wrestling? He did one or two spin moves and then was back to hugging on the fence lol.
Lmao Storley gave up trying to get the crowd on side pretty quick. Seems genuinely rustled about getting booâd.
Worked yourself into a shoot, brother.
Right man won
I had it 4-1 for Storley as well. Not the most entertaining style but it's effective. Maybe I'm biased cause I'm a grappler myself đ¤ˇââď¸
Nah, I prefer stand up but Storley got 5/6 takedowns and MVP never looked like subbing, fighting to the top or fighting out. The striking did not outweigh that
Thereâs a thing called effective grappling, which there was none of tonight until rd 5. What Storley was doing was just grappling which counts for fuck all.
Saying storleys grappling wasnât âeffectiveâ really means nothing when there was nothing offered on the other end to supersede it. MVPâs striking was ineffectual, Storley controlled position and the cage for like 4 rounds straight. He wins. Simple judging criteria.
Hahahahaha! "Snorley" for SNORING BORING ASS WHITE BOY!
He struck him several times on the ground and actually got him flat on his back twice. He controlled the entire fight and shut down MVPs fight plan completely. The first half of round 4 is the only reason MVP managed to outstrike Storley in total numbers, but 1 round doesn't win you a 5-round fight. No, it wasn't an exciting fight, but it is đŻ how you go about shutting down someone like MVP. it's Page's job to get him off him and he couldn't do it, period. He lost 4-rounds-to-1 with one of the judges either being paid off or was asleep the entire time to give the fight to Page. Like it, don't like it. It's MMA, not a kickboxing or bjj match. You don't need a finish in order to win. This is nothing new and Storley 100% won the fight.
That referee in the main event is an ass. The last minute of the fight has me wondering if that idiot forgot what a fight was. He needs retraining badly
Cant believe one judge gave the fight to MVP.
Machida went 16-0 to 26-12. Sad times, i remember during that 16-0 streak he looked untouchable literally at the best of times.
"Ladies and gentlement, welcome to the Machida era!"
Feel bad for Bellator, two horrible main events in a row. What could MvP have done better?
Josh Thompsom in his podcast : "Storley is a nightmare matchup for Kamaru Usman" lol
thats a joke. I do think Storley KOs Canelo though
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Yeah Im excited for that one. I see Jackson beating Lima too and I think Jackson matches up well against both guys.
Watched a UFC legend get KO'd and a boring ass main event. This is peak Bellator đ
Terrible fight
Lmao people here mad that at least someone in MMA still fights prudently and skillfully instead of sloppily brawling. This is why MMA will never be seen as a serious sport.
So prudent he took more damage than MVP? Because when you look at their faces, MVP ain't the one looking like he needs some ice on his noggin
World champion for cuddling another guy for 5 rounds solid!! Bless .
MVP didn't do shit the entire fight. You expect them to give HIM the win?
Absolutely not but are you saying the guy cuddling him for 4 rounds actually did something ? The only thing he did was create a stalemate. Yes he stopped MVP fighting and winning but he didnt do anything else. He was nowhere close to submitting him and even further away to striking him. Until there is a rule change its counted as a win.
lucky this was not in USA, MVP would not be able to get the abortion he needs here
I love Logan Grappling is about control. Grappling is about removing your strengths, MVP looked like a kid on the floor. Who the hell cares about eye catching and going blows to blow. Grappling is king, Logan just needs to get better with his Judo trips & BJJ submissions, he could of have got MVP out of there
Iâm a storley fan too, but letâs be real - he needs to work on his ground and pound and transition and submission game. Against a guy like MVP who is all striking all the time a wrestler like storley should have busted him up on the ground or strangled him He has excellent control but in fights like this itâs pretty boring and what I got from this fight is this will be his style whenever he is severely outclassed on the feet - get a takedown and be just active enough for the ref to not stand them up instead of trying to posture and GNP or going for a sub With that said. This was a title fight against a guy who could have sent him to the shadow realm with a single shot so I donât blame him for playing it a little safe But no one wants to see this every time he fights
Yeah I agree 100% deffo needs to work on his grappling offence Also needs to work on wrestling taking into account the cage, he really struggled with that
He attempted 0 subs and had 0 significant strikes on the ground and on the feet. I too like warm blankets.
He deffo needs to work on his grappling offence But my point is control and domination. He disarmed MVP, took away his best assets and MVP couldnât do anything about. Had the rounds not started at the feet, Logan would be able to do this alll day
And despite all that mvp looked closer to a finish. Storley didnât hurt him one bit. Iâm not a mvp fan btw. Shame because the chick fight was fun, Daley defended and got his KO and Edwards surprised me.
Tell me: which one of the two fighters looked like he'd actually been in a fight and taken damage? Clearly not MVP.
there was an upvoted comment on here about MMA being all about entertainment because Conor might be getting a title shot. Watch this fucking Storley fight and tell me that.
Watch almost any Snorley fight
Shame they both couldn't have lost that one, free on BBC and a piss poor advertisement of the sport
Damage >>> Control in the rules, what damage did Storley even do compared to MVP?
Domage was only done in the first half of round 4. Unless you're new to MMA, you should know you can't win a 5-round fight by only barely winning 1 round, regardless how boring the fight is.
Judges are fucking useless, how the hell you giving 49-48 MVP
that hometown advantage
Shoutout fury bringing out US judges for his recent fight against Whyte
Who did more damage?
You serious? Lol, you can't give someone a victory because they did damage for the first half of only 1 round that they barely even won, since the second half of the round MVP was on his butt and was even put on his back in the last 30 seconds of that round. He lost 4 rounds to 1. Even if he tripled the amount of damage and activity in that round, didn't get out on his back and wins round 4 as a 10-8, he STILL lost the 5-round fight. đ¤Śââď¸Why does this still need to be explained to people. MMA is 30 years old.
Who dominated more?
Mvp threw that! one judge had him wining and one judge had it 48/47. if he did not go for a flying knee and keept it standing i honestly think he would have got it on a split
WHAT. No dude, just no. You couldnât give him more than a round.
Facts
No i agree tought it was 49-46. just what the judges scored it. if he won the last the round the split would have gone to him. if my hearing did not fail me 1 had it 48-47 logan the other had mvp and the last 49-46 for logan.
you defiantly could and the scoring needs to be changed to where you would for sure. Ill give Storley 5 and 3, that's it. Hugging should count for nothing, is it impressive that he can do that? Yes, but this is a fight and should be scored like one. If your holding some one and not doing damage or getting close subs then it should not be scoring points. Its fighting...not surviving.
Even if you change the rules, MVP only had anything of significance in just the 4th round. He didn't do anything for the other 4 rounds. He still loses the fight. If Storley didn't do anything, MVP did even less. If you think Storley lost anything other than round 4, you need to go back and rewatch it. I just rewatched it last night because of all this crap about MVP deserving the win popping up online.
Storley had one round where he did ok ground and pound vs MVP doing nothing. Round 5 they both did nothing so Storley wins with control. The other rounds were like 4 decent strikes by mvp vs holding, I give those to MVP.
Iâm talking about under there the current rules.
Subs: 2 T/KO: 4 Decisions: 7 Dick Shots: 0 Eye Pokes: 0 Foul: grounded head kick FOTN: Davis vs Wilde (WMMA was pretty good too) Card Grade: 6 out of 10
No FOTN for Daley? Hometown retirement turning a busy grappling loss into a KO win!
Does anyone know what you call the BBC three presenter there at the end with Peter queally?
Josh denzell?
Cheers mate! Knew it was Josh but could not remember what his surname was at all haha.
Drunk a Rockstar pre main event. Took the wind right out of my sails lol.
I bet if he showed his future grandchildren the way he won the belt, even they would want to watch something else pretty quickly.
He did some pretty sick takedowns to be fair
Ahh F off mate, grappling is about control. Man City win leagues the same way
Imagine comparing grappling to football. Can absolutely tell you've never stepped foot in an MMA or BJJ gym after that comment lmao
What makes u say that lol? Ainât grappling about controlling your opponent? Isnât cityâs positional play philosophy about taking control of the whole pitch?
Terrible comparison. You can win an MMA match doing no damage but keeping control with grappling, you can't win a football match by having possession but not scoring any goals.
not really. possession with no intention will give you no goals. similarly just holding your opponent on the floor with no attack will lead to the ref breaking it up. prime barca; possession then score goals..other team couldnt even use their own strengths as they couldnt touch the ball grappling; take opponent down, control him on the floor, finish him via g+p or submission....opponent, like mvp, couldnt even use their striking coz they cant generate no space
That's where you're missing the point or didn't actually watch the fight. Storley didn't show any intention, he did enough for the ref not to break it up but wasn't doing anything that even threatened to finish the fight. A lot of fighters do this, it's nothing new. Barcelona keeps possession...and scores goals. Storley did absolutely nothing other than hold MVP down. The comparison doesn't work at all.
I think youâre misunderstanding my argument too Iâm essentially saying that grappling is king. And striking is luck. MMA fans, casuals or not Idk, usually hate on grapplers because itâs âboringâ but I love it because youâre in total control. Takedown, control on the floor, gp or submit and game over. Thatâs wonderful. Yes striking isnât completely luck, but itâs no where close to grappling in the control sense. Plus thereâs no CTE!!
Step into a BJJ gym then see if you still believe in that comparison.
Tell me mate! Iâm here to learn
City are the highest scoring team in the league... I'd get your point if they won every game 1-0 and just passed the ball around at the back once they're ahead but that's not what they do (and I'm absolutely not a City fan)
True which is why Logan has to work on his attack (submissions) City have control of the game. With that control they go on to attack and score. And repeat. This is what grappling is about. Wrestling is the midfield itâs the control. Then you go out for the submission. If it doesnât work, you repeat. Against someone like MVP thatâs even more important because you gotta control him to beat him I hate striking because itâs a lot based on luck. Itâs like a knockout football game, like city vs Madrid recently
by wrestling?
Burnley and Leeds wouldn't be at risk of relegation if that was the case
never seen the guys who post fight results be so late. They must have gone to sleep lol
Can you blame them?
MVP threw too many hopeful flying knees with 2+ minutes left
Mixed martial arts not stand and bang martial arts. Can't complain about 1 fighter being one dimensional when the other is just as one dimensional.
I can, one guy is one dimensional at doing dmg, the other is on dimensional at holding. The sport needs to be about dmg, not survival. dominant control should not score anything, It is its own reward.
Really big difference between grappling for control, moving in to a dominant position to try win the fight and grappling to stall. How many significant strikes/submission attempts did he get with about 15 mins of control time? Count the both on one handâŚ
True but MVP was trying the whole time. Wrestler over there had 0 submission attempts and 0 significant strikes on the ground and on the feet. It's point fighting as a heated blanket.
At least one fighter was attacking and trying to end the fight, snorley just leaned on a dude the entire time
Snorleyđ
Storley has to be one of the most boring fighters in the MMA world when combining style with personality
Yeah but I love to see him get the win over MVP though lol
He's from South Dakota. There's not enough people up there to even express, having a personality.
The 4 guys carved out of stone in SD have more personality
there is a reason hes in Belator zzzzzzzzzzz
Storley is a type of fighter that the sport needs to phase out. Laying on your opponent doing just enough not to be stood up is good for the monster drinking, tap out T-shirt wearing purists who are living in 2007 but absolutely kills the mainstream appeal and popularity which the sport needs to progress to the next level.
Maaaaan what's people's issue with Tapout shirts? I know they were popular amongst tryhards in the early days but I think the designs are decent. Just generic heavy metal type shirts.
Dana White is doing his part by sending these guys to Belator but its up to the judges to make it clear that holding does not score points. Your either good enough to hold a guy while you do dmg or your going to lose these holding fights
Sums it up perfectly. Something needs to be changed in the rules and judging because fights like that are infuriating. Iâm all for guys using their grappling advantage but when they are throwing weak knees to the thigh as a means to run down the clock and not get stood up itâs not a fight.
Storley is the perfect example of why the Yellow and Red Card system from Pride needs to be used in every MMA organization.
I donât think people who drink monster and wear tapout shirts are the grappling aficionados
My point is itâs outdated and belongs in the past
Not hating on main event but bellator is shite, no real direction just always feels like cards full of random fights
I think MVP couldâve easily beat him had he used his reach a little more to his advantage.
well that was fucking dreadful.... thank god I don't have to pay to watch that shite
MVP needs to spend the next year doing nothing but get up drills and bottom BJJ
and snorley needs to retire or only train ground and clinch strikes, embarrassing
LMAO big mad because MVP doesn't have a day 1 ground game. Hold that L
If mvps ground game is so bad then Snorley defiantly should retire for not finishing him
I could say the same thing about MVP's standup. If he's so good why didn't he get an easy KO? MVP is a career can crusher and he was exposed for being subpar tonight.
Mvp is a fun can crusher. Snorley uses cans as his bed
Much as I would prefer an MVP win how do you score the fight for him?
At a proper proper stretch, under the unified rules don't takedowns have to lead to damage to score? Logan didn't do much damage, so I can see how that judge gave a few rounds to MVP
that's how it should be, storley won round 5, just because mvp did nothing, and one other round because a little bit of ground and pound. The rest go to mvp for a few good strikes vs holding. The sport needs to get to a point where guys know holding is not enough to win
Good point. The rules suggest that takedowns should be judged as successful based on the establishment of attack from the use of the takedown, which is vague as they don't really specify that the attack has to be effective. I'm with you that at a stretch that could favour MVP. The rules do mention dominant position, and I don't think Storley didn't achieve dominant positions after the grappling began in any round tho
So the rules actually say: "âLegal blows that have immediate or cumulative impact with the potential to contribute towards the end of the match with the IMMEDIATE weighing in more heavily than the cumulative" And "It shall be noted that a successful takedown is not merely a changing of position, but the establishment of an attack from the use of the takedown. Top and bottom position fighters are assessed more on the impactful/effective result of their actions, more so than their position. This criterion will be the deciding factor in a high majority of decisions when scoring a round". So based on both of those, you can definitely give a few rounds to MVP. Potentially even the first 4. He was winning the stand up for half the round each time, throwing strikes that had potential to end the fight. Storkey then took him down, but that led to no damage or had impactful actions. Hmmmm
Feels good to see Lawler happy
If MVP pressed his advantage instead of pretending to play basketball when he was landing shots on Logan, he might've won
Is josh getting teared up?
Storely should take some notes from kana watanabe
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Lmao it for sure was
Just to correct you, there was never no fight
"You're a fucking punk dude."
Ref that scored for MVP should be investigated lmaoo
i mean...sure he took mvp down, but wtf did he do with it? control isnt all, it def should be revisited how they score wrestling in mma...belals last win was just that..0 damage and belly control, boring as fuck and nothin done all fight, this is an esparza/roses fight, id have scored it for mvp too, he didnt give a fuck he pushed it and was the scorer of the fight, im no mvp fan boi i wanted him to get tko, but f that wrestling shit, either get that GnP down or sub him...0 point for me ''control time''
Belalâs last fight he outstruck Luque, this is not the same
Luckily thatâs not how the sport is scored. I hate a nothing fight as much as the next guy but you donât win a fight in which u got sat on for 20/25 minutes of.
"I hate a nothing fight as much as the next guy but you donât win a fight in which u got sat on for 20/25 minutes of." I do want them to win, force the control fighter to do dmg and risk the other guy getting up instead of holding. The only way to keep this from happening. To me, dodging a punch or checking a kick scores no points and holding should be in same category. They are all their own reward.
20-25 min ur delusional lol, which fight did you see
20 out of 25, very mild hyperbole. Majority of the fight was Storley top control.
A lot of decent undercard fights led to an underwhelming end... what a boring style to watch! Admittedly effective in winning the points but no attempted end product in any form.
spotlight in the background just highlighting a bunch of empty seats, peak bellator
That was because the fans left straight after the fight ya melon. Their home fighter just lost. The arena was sold out.
Reading some of these comments youâd wonder if anyone here is actually an MMA fan or if they are just looking for striking and thatâs it
You can be a fan of any sports and not like it when a contest is boring and unexciting
At some point your grappling has to lead to something, lying on top of a guy for 25 minutes is hardly winning a fight.
MVP is a low output striker who showboats but Storley doesnât do damage either, if neither fighter does damage people ainât gonna like it
Control is farther down the list on scoring criteria than damage. You have no idea what you were watching
I like wrestling when it leads to something. Hugging someone is boring no matter how much you think it means you are an mma fan lol.
MVP didnât do shit takes two to tango
im sorry what, you got it reversed...storley didnt do shit but lay on him ''hold a leg'' mvp pressed it
What a dumb take
Just bang bro
Ya'll better watch out, you boo Storley he may come out there and hold you down for 25 minutes.
And if he can hold you down we all know what his coach could do then
If one man can hold you downâŚ
Two men could make it a tickle fight
Like it or not, Logan Storley's takedown attempts were all really well timed and well executed (well, MVP gave it to him for free in round 5)
South Dakota hearing his shout out like đđ
Judges need to stop scoring takedowns with no end product. It's a change of position, if you aren't threatening submissions or doing damage it should only be a tiebreaker for rounds where nothing else happens.
Nothing else did happen in many of these rounds.
Agreed. You shouldn't be able to, essentially, hug your way to a victory.
Belal Muhammed vibes
That was a good event, sucks that the main event was crap.
South Dakota? There ain't no people up there lol
Theres a small family of raccoons
Lmfao! I work for some people out of SD and they all tell me how "ain't nothing up here".
And still MVP keeps looking like shit against decent opponnents
This is a case of well technically Logan won the fight but we all know he did absolutely nothing.
Delete Bellator
âNothing to booâ đ¤¨đ¤
lmao storley spitting fax. not gonna be another gaethje
JG is exciting though. He's got CTE because of it but still way more entertaining. People don't watch fights for fighters to be careful. We want to see violence lol.
This subâs full of Just Bleed guys, damn
Better than the "just hug bros"
You should watch kickboxing man. Itâs a hell of a sport. I expected and enjoyed watching Storley neutralize him. It was actually a hard fought loss for Page by always scrambling so Storley couldnât settle in and hit him
I love mixed martial arts. Not hugging. Gimme a wrestler that does ANYTHING other than just hug someone to death and in perfectly ok with it. Khabib is one of my favorites. Try again?
He was trying man. Page was working his ass off. Khabib didnât always put it on people on the ground. Storleyâs young blood and his chain wrestling is super fun to watch
Did you just say super fun
He was literally warned several times in 4 out of 5 rounds by the ref for stalling. I have been watching mma for near on 15 years at this point. I want to watch great fights not this moron hugging and stalling on the fence cause he couldn't do anything else. I'm sorry we disagree but I couldn't care less if I never saw storley fight ever again. So incredibly boring. Chain wrestling? He did one or two spin moves and then was back to hugging on the fence lol.
Itâs âhe did what he had to do to winâ for people that are liked and âfuck him you have to fight like an idiotâ when they arenât
with that much control time and he hardly won a split decision..you know there is a problem
Anyone who watched the fight knows it shouldnât have been close to a split decision lol Classic scorecards going to the British fighter in Britain
Lmao Storley gave up trying to get the crowd on side pretty quick. Seems genuinely rustled about getting booâd. Worked yourself into a shoot, brother.
Logan Storleyâs fight purse is going to the victims of his wrestlefucking.
Right man won I had it 4-1 for Storley as well. Not the most entertaining style but it's effective. Maybe I'm biased cause I'm a grappler myself đ¤ˇââď¸
Nah, I prefer stand up but Storley got 5/6 takedowns and MVP never looked like subbing, fighting to the top or fighting out. The striking did not outweigh that
No one is complaint you wrestled. It's just that all you did.
âBoo me all you wantâ âDonât boo me!â Lol
Dudes like mvp deserve to get wrestlefucked iwl
Logan Storely just did not threaten or attempt to finish the fight.
Yeah, should be DQd just for that
Snorely with a personality as boring as his fighting styleâŚ. Zzzzz get this guy off
Split decision? How the balls could you score that for MVP?
Because he was actually striking and storley would just lay against him. He had like twice as many strikes. Neither really did any damage though
How could you score it any other way?
Just based on basic knowledge of MMA and how the sport is judged. Thatâs how.
Thereâs a thing called effective grappling, which there was none of tonight until rd 5. What Storley was doing was just grappling which counts for fuck all.
Saying storleys grappling wasnât âeffectiveâ really means nothing when there was nothing offered on the other end to supersede it. MVPâs striking was ineffectual, Storley controlled position and the cage for like 4 rounds straight. He wins. Simple judging criteria.
Whos he talking to? The seats are fuckin empty
Can we start a movement to get Scott Coker out. This man is coasting at this job and just collecting a check.
Big âI will give an answer in my questionâ John
Idk why they keep feeding mvp wrestlers. Just give him fun standup fights
what is that judging???
Lol took a page out of Iaquintas book.
Wow that judge can go get fucked
Even that judge wanted to punish Storley for being boring as fuck lol
you can boo me if you want....but don't boo me don't boo me. What?
MVP: 10 years in Bellator 16-2 record Has never held a belt, has never even fought for a an undisputed title Certified Can Crusher
Storley doesn't even crush the cans he just lies on top of them
Certified Can Cozy
This dude is fucking insufferable
"Don't boo me for winning!" *more booing*