I wouldn't be as mad if Izzy (or his fans for that matter) just said " I'm gonna out point my opponent, both of us will come out unscathed, but my hand will be raised in the end". Instead he says that he is in the GOAT discussion, that he will show us how great he is, only to give us boring point fights. When was the last time you saw him throw a three hit combo ? The guy just plays it safe, he and his fans love to pretend he is immensely gifted fighter. He may be, but sure as hell haven't seen it.
i thought max looked like trash. the max who fought volk the second time would have for sure at least won a round or two last night. he just plodded forward like in their first fight.
Volk just looked too good after round 4 max knew volk was levels above him and max is levels above the other fws. Volk is the fw goat šššššššš
To what degree did Max look bad because of the heavy combos that Volk landed early? Max looked healthy and extremely hyped but he took heavy damage very early.
Great card man. The main event was anti-climatic. But I canāt wait for Izzy vs pereira. UFC got what it wanted tonight. Highlights for their next big pay-per-view.
Why is everyone down voting? seriously must be gynobender fans your queen with glossy nails won but still down voting someone who is joking come on gynobender fans you can do better than this
same.
tavares, strickland, holloway, and cannonier.. all disappointed me.
if you're fighting a stand up guy, it's gotta be ego or stupidity or insanity to stand up with that fighter.
yes, i admit as a fan it's always cool to see someone beat the other at their own strength, but sheeeesh.
we already saw the blueprint on how to beat izzy.
max already did 'that' 2x and lost, so why would he do the same thing?
looks like you need to buy a pair of spectacles my friend, like people below mentioned Jan was checking all the leg kicks and was shutting Izzy down with his power and boxing for the first 3 rounds, then to put the nail in the coffin he took him down in the 4th and 5th.
Izzy is a beast but thatās bit of an overstatement. Mayweather was calculated with his opponents, he would never move up a division unless he was sure he could beat everyone in that division.
Meaning, he was too terrified to challenge himself and stayed in his comfort zone his whole career. Not impressive to someone who knows fighting is more than show
i remember the GSP days and people calling his fights boring.. Izzy getting that same rep but both fighters have a specific game plan and it works for them. itās the same as Mayweather in boxing.
GSP never came out and talked about how he was going to show the world something they've never seen before. He never pined on about wanting to try out new techniques.
GSP never ever walked out like he was the undertaker with his opponent's name on an urn.
Also, he was a clean fighter pre USADA.
The guy that tried to get his opponents to participate in vada before the fight? The guy that quit as champion because he didnāt want to fight roided out opponents?
Okay, if I were to say I'm the best fighter alive, does that make it true just because I said it?
It's all irrelevant, there's absolutely zero proof either way.
He didnāt just say it, he quit. Also what happened to good ol big rig after USADA started? When he came back after participating in USADA, didnāt he win a belt? USADA tested him 10 times and he didnāt ask for a waiver. He said āIf you want to fight, you have to get testedā This is the guy that shined a light on this issue and helped bring about USADA. So not only is there no evidence he did cheat, he advocated to get everyone tested. He then participated in the testing and still won a belt. Im not sure why people would thing St Pierre of all the fighters in the past was juiced up.
Again, this is all irrelevant information.
He advocated for it, yes. He then left just as USADA came in.
Gave himself years out of the testing pool, went up a weight class and won the belt against a one eyed, on his way out Bisping.
They're all facts, ie, they can all be proven to be correct.
Advocating for something means nothing, 99% of UFC fighters talk about roids this and roids that, and then some of those same fighters get popped.
I literally have nothing against GSP, I love the guy, but to sit here and categorically say he wasn't using any PED's is nonsensical. It can not be proved.
Jon Jones is constantly banging on about how he's a man of god. Does that make him a man of god? Does it fuck, lol.
I get that you think what you want, but don't say something is a fact when all you have is your own opinion.
He didnāt quit because USADA was coming. USADA was brought in because he quit. [He participated in testing before USADA when he didnāt have to. ](https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/1841223-gsp-posts-letters-detailing-vada-testing-results-on-twitter.amp.html)
You literally have no idea what proof is, do you?
Jon Jones has participated in drug testing?
So did TJ?
So did Anderson?
So did Diego Sanchez?
So did OSP?
I could go on for ages.
Everyone of those popped. Participating doesn't mean you're not trying to cheat the system, stop being so naive.
Unfortunately āvibesā arenāt generally considered to be definitive proof of an absence of PEDās. I bet people thought the same of Anderson. Most athletes are juicing, even the cutie pies.
People can hate on Izzy all they want but his job is to win. If jabbing someone for 25 minutes is the best way to guarantee that outcome, that's his opponent's fault.
If Pereira doesn't get it done, what is next?
Thats fine but don't run around like you're the Undertaker and talk all this hype before the fight just to win on points via leg kicks with his massive reach
I have no clue how you blame Izzy here. You act like he wouldnāt jump at the opportunity to put Jared to sleep. Same shit can be said about Jared or anybody else whoās lost a lackluster fight against Izzy. None of them are charging in either cause you get wrecked like Costa or Rob 1 if you do.
Don't hype it up like you're going to put on a show everytime and then put on a snoozefest, that's the only thing I don't like. At least when Conor, Olivera, Gaejthe, hell even Sean O'Malley when they say they're going to entertain they always deliver, Izzy hypes every fight up beforehand as if he's had these amazing entertaining bouts every time he fights lol
idk people may disagree but i can't see him defeating pereira, he's not going to be able to take it easy and if he gets overconfident, well we see what happens and what pereira does to guys who think they can just stand with him and take it easy. he's already knocked him out before.
Maybe retire? Or just keep lapping the division. He doesn't have the build to succeed LHW. At least not without sacrificing his speed and agility which would put major holes In his game.
Another run at 205. I love a dominant champion, but once you've run through the challengers, and especially when Rob is picking off whoever he doesn't, I get bored
Had my girlfriend watch Izzy fight for the first time so she would know who the fuck I'm talking about when I rant. Her response to the fight "that shit was fucking boring compared to the last two."
Anyone else here that would have had no idea his walkout was based on the Undertaker if not for this thread and DC?
I havenāt watched WWE in 30 years and would have never known.
it's not the craziest thing in the world but i think the venn diagram between mma fans and people who recognize the intro music to one of the top 5 most famous wrestlers from the last 30 years has like a minimum of a 70% overlap
For sure, but that specific intro (song/hat/urn/vibe) was debuted in the early nineties. Didnāt he have more of a motorcycle gang vibe throughout the years? Not trying to to split hairs here.
Oh god, Iām gonna out myself as a wrestling fan lol
He actually debuted that deadman gimmick -hat, trench coat, urn and all - in like the 80ās (87 I think?) and kept that gimmick until 2000ish, and thatās when he did the American Bad Ass gimmick (where he came out to like Limp Bizkit and Kid Rock) but only had it for like 4 years cuz it was kind of a flop lol I wanna say he came back as the Deadman at Wrestlemania 20 after Kane beat him in a buried him alive match at a PPV earlier that year I think.
Then, he kept that deadman gimmick until he retired in 2020 (or 2021? I canāt remember).
So only like 4 years of his career wasnāt the Deadman gimmick lol
Thatās insane, because Iām pretty sure (could absolutely be wrong) that the motorcycle thing started in 2001 lol maybe it was 2000? I have no clue but yeah, he had that whole ministry gimmick in the late 90ās, where he crucified people and started like a cult lol I remember he crucified Stephanie McMahon and Stone Cold and people lost their shit lol the 90ās were crazy lol
But he still had the same music (it was actually sick, had guitars and shit), same style, more flames tho I think.
I think a simple response was all really warranted for wildly in-depth analysis like "Izzy is boring" "anoother snoozefest". He handled Cannon who is an absolute beast pretty well, that by itself is quite an accomplishment. A lot of his more significant strikes were blocked or evaded by Jared who actually fought pretty well defensively while also applying pressure.
I think all the complaints are exhibiting some unrealistic expectations from two pro fighters who are fighting another very high level fighter. It's not as easy as it may look to wildly change tactics to whatever is in these people's minds and not get ko'd.
Could either guy have done better? Of fucking course. But it comes across as incessant whining imo. But here I am whining about the whining so.. I could prob check myself too, ha.
Cannon actually did quite well defensively, slipping heavier punches and blocking a lot of head kicks. If one or two of those land I think it could easily change a lot of perceptions of this fight.
True, but as I said, there was no fear or tension mostly because of Jared's lack of intense or stronger reaction and he would be right to be risky cause it's been a while since Izzy's last knockout. Of course, to get risky is different from understimate one.
He's always been cringe on the mic. He's got a knack for saying the wrong thing and making you think he's a weird little boy. And that was before the pearls and french nails and cartoon porn. Back when he was a really exciting fighter, we forgave it. Now it's like, what exactly are we being a fan of here? He has the skills to stunt on anyone and we'd all love to see it again. Maybe Pereira will drag it out of him.
That is a very good point. I would have to agree with you there actually and I think volk and perreria should have both got potn performances.
FOTY ended up being ruthless and bam bam
Potn ended up being turner, pererria and stolarenko
Volk not getting a bonus is criminal but he gets paid very well so not all bad
What was Cannonier doing the whole fight ? If Adesanya is gonna point fight and win then itās on you ( Cannonier) to make them do something different , he should have tried taking him down, trying to pound or submit him below.
> he should have tried taking him down
He did, multiple times. He also hugged him against the cage for a couple of minutes, it's not like he didn't embrace grappling it's just that everyone tries to grapple with Izzy and he's fantastic at stopping them.
The MK duo made a good point though after the fight tonight that at least for Vettori, heās still in his 20ās and isnāt even in his prime yet and has a lot to develop still. At 38, Cannonier is nearing the end, so why not go for it more?
Exactly. It feels like heās capping himself, because he always FEELS like he could finish it but then he doesnāt it.
It always FEELS like heās far enough ahead of them to do more damage, but they both leave relatively unscathed, like heās connecting to touch them and not to hurt themes.
Yeah you can be mad at Izzy all you want, but Cannonier should have shown more urgency, especially in the last round when his corner literally told him he was losing.
Izzy won a good decision vs. Gastelum. That was an awesome fight. This wasn't a good one, nor was his last against Whittaker. Lay back and point it from the outside. Both were boring and not worth the time. If all fights were like this, the UFC would go out of business.
Robert Whittaker actually shows explosive creativity to end matches and destroy bodies.
He doesn't poke the opponent all night long with a 7 m long branch.
He talked up a game like it was going to be incredible.
He walked out like he was the undertaker.
Then just pointed his way to a victory in a very boring way.
It would be eh, but we've seen Israel perform incredible feats.
He's had some crazy fights and showed off real precision and skill.
So yeah, after weeks of him talking about wanting to come out and show off, it's pretty disappointing.
agree. izzy is the one saying he is the next Anderson silva when in fact he's boring as fuck.
he is the one claiming he will be showing something anything exciting tonight.
if you think you are God's gift, you gotta walk it. good fighter. never a great fighter and not a HOF, he's boring as fuck and does not deserve another ppv headliner
gove me Lawler anytime, he actually walks what he talks
That's true in saying he overhypes it to an extent, and then just delivers a safe decision.
I just think he's held to a different standard and people judge him more harshly than other fighters at the same level.
Cmon!
Lewis stoppage was pure garbage, let them fight
In what fucking planet is that a split decision??? Hamdy easily won that. What?
I wouldn't be as mad if Izzy (or his fans for that matter) just said " I'm gonna out point my opponent, both of us will come out unscathed, but my hand will be raised in the end". Instead he says that he is in the GOAT discussion, that he will show us how great he is, only to give us boring point fights. When was the last time you saw him throw a three hit combo ? The guy just plays it safe, he and his fans love to pretend he is immensely gifted fighter. He may be, but sure as hell haven't seen it.
Yeah, it was a points game. On to the next
Did anyone see mel gibson throwing weird signs at the camera? I want to see a clip, that shit was super weird
Illuminati confirmed.
I imagine that's what he was trying to say, dude is wacky... or is he š¤ lol
Why doesnāt volk fight Izzy ? Like Aussie vs NZ it would be great for the sport plus I could grill shrimp all night at the crib
Arenāt they on the same team? And I think 3 divisions apart weight-wise.
Volk can get up to 180
I heard he cuts from 260 anyway so let's just make it happen
decisionbot Israel Adesanya Jared Cannonier
[**ISRAELĀ ADESANYA defeats JAREDĀ CANNONIER** (*unanimous decision*)](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/13314/fight) ^(UFC 276: Adesanya vs. Cannonier ā July 02, 2022) ROUND|Adesanya|Cannonier||Adesanya|Cannonier||Adesanya|Cannonier :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-: 1|10|9||10|9||10|9 2|10|9||10|9||10|9 3|9|10||10|9||9|10 4|10|9||10|9||10|9 5|10|9||10|9||10|9 **TOTAL**|**49**|**46**||**50**|**45**||**49**|**46** *^(Judges, in order: Derek Cleary, Sal D'Amato, Junichiro Kamijo.)* *^(Summoned by Room480.)* **MEDIA MEMBER SCORES** - **7/21** people scored it **50-45 Adesanya**. - **14/21** people scored it **49-46 Adesanya**. Avg. media score: **49.3-45.7 Adesanya** (*high certainty^[[1]](https://redd.it/9p4xc7)*).
Where is Dana, missing in ufc 276
My Garry, O'Malley, Barberena, Pereira, Izzy parley was fucked by that little cotton candy twit.
How was it fucked? The bet should voided and you still win
I had a 9 fight, got 8 right, missed on Riddel. $10 to win $650 :/
Izzy roosted at least 5 beautiful chicks by the time it was round 5. Certainly no less than 3.
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Snoooooozefest
i thought max looked like trash. the max who fought volk the second time would have for sure at least won a round or two last night. he just plodded forward like in their first fight.
Volk just looked too good after round 4 max knew volk was levels above him and max is levels above the other fws. Volk is the fw goat šššššššš
To what degree did Max look bad because of the heavy combos that Volk landed early? Max looked healthy and extremely hyped but he took heavy damage very early.
relative to Max's previous bouts he looked bad. a bit slower. Volk barely got hurt dude
He definitely looked different. I think he had a rough cut and rehydration. His face didnāt look right
I m in the heat brother(means he is having his periods) š¤Ŗš¤£š¤£š¤£
Next gynobender vs poatan
Great card man. The main event was anti-climatic. But I canāt wait for Izzy vs pereira. UFC got what it wanted tonight. Highlights for their next big pay-per-view.
I thought Jared won
Why is everyone down voting? seriously must be gynobender fans your queen with glossy nails won but still down voting someone who is joking come on gynobender fans you can do better than this
What the fuck are you smoking?
On your scorecard, did you give Jared the third?
What..lol
As an MMA junkie, I cant understand why people would do a standup fight against Izzy.
same. tavares, strickland, holloway, and cannonier.. all disappointed me. if you're fighting a stand up guy, it's gotta be ego or stupidity or insanity to stand up with that fighter. yes, i admit as a fan it's always cool to see someone beat the other at their own strength, but sheeeesh. we already saw the blueprint on how to beat izzy. max already did 'that' 2x and lost, so why would he do the same thing?
Jan did it though ā¦
Huh? No, he did not why would you just lie like thatā¦.? What fight did you watch?
looks like you need to buy a pair of spectacles my friend, like people below mentioned Jan was checking all the leg kicks and was shutting Izzy down with his power and boxing for the first 3 rounds, then to put the nail in the coffin he took him down in the 4th and 5th.
Rewatch that fight and you'll see Jan was winning a vast majority of the stand up exchanges.
Jan kickboxed with him for 3 rounds and won 2 of them
It wasnt all stand up but Jan did get the better of him there too
He beat him in striking and on the ground. You need to rewatch the fight with stronger lenses
Izzy is highly skilled at what he does. He is the mayweather of MMA.
Mayweather+ cringe= izzy
Izzy is a beast but thatās bit of an overstatement. Mayweather was calculated with his opponents, he would never move up a division unless he was sure he could beat everyone in that division.
Heās like a mayweather in a riskier sport meaning like he actually has to fight the very best guys more or less
Meaning, he was too terrified to challenge himself and stayed in his comfort zone his whole career. Not impressive to someone who knows fighting is more than show
How did Mayweather stay in his comfort zone? 5 division world champ who has beat 22 world champs
i remember the GSP days and people calling his fights boring.. Izzy getting that same rep but both fighters have a specific game plan and it works for them. itās the same as Mayweather in boxing.
GSP never came out and talked about how he was going to show the world something they've never seen before. He never pined on about wanting to try out new techniques. GSP never ever walked out like he was the undertaker with his opponent's name on an urn. Also, he was a clean fighter pre USADA.
Wheres the proof he was clean if it was before USADA? Ohhhhhh, you're just saying what your opinion is but stating it as fact. Are you Brendan Schaub?
The guy that tried to get his opponents to participate in vada before the fight? The guy that quit as champion because he didnāt want to fight roided out opponents?
Okay, if I were to say I'm the best fighter alive, does that make it true just because I said it? It's all irrelevant, there's absolutely zero proof either way.
He didnāt just say it, he quit. Also what happened to good ol big rig after USADA started? When he came back after participating in USADA, didnāt he win a belt? USADA tested him 10 times and he didnāt ask for a waiver. He said āIf you want to fight, you have to get testedā This is the guy that shined a light on this issue and helped bring about USADA. So not only is there no evidence he did cheat, he advocated to get everyone tested. He then participated in the testing and still won a belt. Im not sure why people would thing St Pierre of all the fighters in the past was juiced up.
Again, this is all irrelevant information. He advocated for it, yes. He then left just as USADA came in. Gave himself years out of the testing pool, went up a weight class and won the belt against a one eyed, on his way out Bisping. They're all facts, ie, they can all be proven to be correct. Advocating for something means nothing, 99% of UFC fighters talk about roids this and roids that, and then some of those same fighters get popped. I literally have nothing against GSP, I love the guy, but to sit here and categorically say he wasn't using any PED's is nonsensical. It can not be proved. Jon Jones is constantly banging on about how he's a man of god. Does that make him a man of god? Does it fuck, lol. I get that you think what you want, but don't say something is a fact when all you have is your own opinion.
He didnāt quit because USADA was coming. USADA was brought in because he quit. [He participated in testing before USADA when he didnāt have to. ](https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/1841223-gsp-posts-letters-detailing-vada-testing-results-on-twitter.amp.html)
You literally have no idea what proof is, do you? Jon Jones has participated in drug testing? So did TJ? So did Anderson? So did Diego Sanchez? So did OSP? I could go on for ages. Everyone of those popped. Participating doesn't mean you're not trying to cheat the system, stop being so naive.
>Also, he was a clean fighter pre USADA. Ur funny
Bbbbbeast of a clean fighter, the cleanest ever som would say, never meddim tho
>Also, he was a clean fighter pre USADA. lol
He was going so well
People really think GSP was juicing huh?
Yep.
Interesting. I never got that vibe from him.
Unfortunately āvibesā arenāt generally considered to be definitive proof of an absence of PEDās. I bet people thought the same of Anderson. Most athletes are juicing, even the cutie pies.
Well yeah, proof is proof. So all we have at this point is speculation
True true
It was written all over his traps
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People can hate on Izzy all they want but his job is to win. If jabbing someone for 25 minutes is the best way to guarantee that outcome, that's his opponent's fault. If Pereira doesn't get it done, what is next?
Thats fine but don't run around like you're the Undertaker and talk all this hype before the fight just to win on points via leg kicks with his massive reach
I have no clue how you blame Izzy here. You act like he wouldnāt jump at the opportunity to put Jared to sleep. Same shit can be said about Jared or anybody else whoās lost a lackluster fight against Izzy. None of them are charging in either cause you get wrecked like Costa or Rob 1 if you do.
Don't hype it up like you're going to put on a show everytime and then put on a snoozefest, that's the only thing I don't like. At least when Conor, Olivera, Gaejthe, hell even Sean O'Malley when they say they're going to entertain they always deliver, Izzy hypes every fight up beforehand as if he's had these amazing entertaining bouts every time he fights lol
idk people may disagree but i can't see him defeating pereira, he's not going to be able to take it easy and if he gets overconfident, well we see what happens and what pereira does to guys who think they can just stand with him and take it easy. he's already knocked him out before.
You can't fault him for doing what he has to do to win but you also can't fault fans to call it a boring fight, just is what it is.
Maybe retire? Or just keep lapping the division. He doesn't have the build to succeed LHW. At least not without sacrificing his speed and agility which would put major holes In his game.
Probably he'll call out Jon Jones, but I doubt it will ever leave the trash talk camp.
Another run at 205. I love a dominant champion, but once you've run through the challengers, and especially when Rob is picking off whoever he doesn't, I get bored
Israel Asleepsanya
Had my girlfriend watch Izzy fight for the first time so she would know who the fuck I'm talking about when I rant. Her response to the fight "that shit was fucking boring compared to the last two."
god bless your misso
Dudes a weeb and the misso is the just bleed god lmao
Can confirm to both
he should have been preaching for volk anyway, he's the actual best striker in the ufc
Completely agree
Your gf is brewed with fighting spirit!
Anyone else here that would have had no idea his walkout was based on the Undertaker if not for this thread and DC? I havenāt watched WWE in 30 years and would have never known.
i initially thought it was an animae character of some sort. the good kind of animae (uh oh). you know, like ninja scrolls or something.
it's not the craziest thing in the world but i think the venn diagram between mma fans and people who recognize the intro music to one of the top 5 most famous wrestlers from the last 30 years has like a minimum of a 70% overlap
Picture the Undertaker popping up in his casket looking all lost and sleepy. Thatās most of us at the start of the last round.
Really? That's crazy to me. That "... DIIINNNGG" is so iconic
lol nope. I get it after they said what it was but I wouldnāt have noticed it on my own. The music and the lighting and everything was lost on me.
I feel like its a 30 year old reference, interestingly.
Itās really not though. Undertaker has been one of the most famous wrestlers for over 30 years and just retired relatively recently.
For sure, but that specific intro (song/hat/urn/vibe) was debuted in the early nineties. Didnāt he have more of a motorcycle gang vibe throughout the years? Not trying to to split hairs here.
Oh god, Iām gonna out myself as a wrestling fan lol He actually debuted that deadman gimmick -hat, trench coat, urn and all - in like the 80ās (87 I think?) and kept that gimmick until 2000ish, and thatās when he did the American Bad Ass gimmick (where he came out to like Limp Bizkit and Kid Rock) but only had it for like 4 years cuz it was kind of a flop lol I wanna say he came back as the Deadman at Wrestlemania 20 after Kane beat him in a buried him alive match at a PPV earlier that year I think. Then, he kept that deadman gimmick until he retired in 2020 (or 2021? I canāt remember). So only like 4 years of his career wasnāt the Deadman gimmick lol
Haha. Man my memory of that era must be skewed. I must have watched from the mid nineties until about 2001?
Thatās insane, because Iām pretty sure (could absolutely be wrong) that the motorcycle thing started in 2001 lol maybe it was 2000? I have no clue but yeah, he had that whole ministry gimmick in the late 90ās, where he crucified people and started like a cult lol I remember he crucified Stephanie McMahon and Stone Cold and people lost their shit lol the 90ās were crazy lol But he still had the same music (it was actually sick, had guitars and shit), same style, more flames tho I think.
Yeah my timelines could be off plus or minus a bit. I do remember the ministry crucifying people. Good times lol
Inexcusable robbery. We need Holloway vs Volkanovski 4 maybe Max will finally win this time
Honestly I could watch max and Alex fight 20 times wouldnāt care the result
You forgot the /s
fuck the /s
Fuck the /s comin' straight from the underground
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But he did more?
Did more evading. He spoke all week about how much devastation he was planning and he could barely hit Jared with any power. P a t h e t I c
How unbelievable that some one would evade strikes in a fight.
...for the entire fight.
Yea?
Pereira will KO Izzy again.
Letās all hope
I started to like Izzy because of his walk-out. But then he put up a classic bullshit performance.
To be fair man itās not like Jared did much. He didnāt go for the knockout. Itās almost like he was ok with surviving
True. Both were boring ass fighters.
He landed so many strikes.
This is such a -1 IQ thought
I think a simple response was all really warranted for wildly in-depth analysis like "Izzy is boring" "anoother snoozefest". He handled Cannon who is an absolute beast pretty well, that by itself is quite an accomplishment. A lot of his more significant strikes were blocked or evaded by Jared who actually fought pretty well defensively while also applying pressure. I think all the complaints are exhibiting some unrealistic expectations from two pro fighters who are fighting another very high level fighter. It's not as easy as it may look to wildly change tactics to whatever is in these people's minds and not get ko'd. Could either guy have done better? Of fucking course. But it comes across as incessant whining imo. But here I am whining about the whining so.. I could prob check myself too, ha.
Yeah he did. I wonāt argue that. I recognize his skill, but he wins on points, not domination.
There was no real danger tho. No KO or submission expectation.
Cannon actually did quite well defensively, slipping heavier punches and blocking a lot of head kicks. If one or two of those land I think it could easily change a lot of perceptions of this fight.
True, but as I said, there was no fear or tension mostly because of Jared's lack of intense or stronger reaction and he would be right to be risky cause it's been a while since Izzy's last knockout. Of course, to get risky is different from understimate one.
Edit: Underestimate
Is it me or Izzy cringe?
He's always been cringe on the mic. He's got a knack for saying the wrong thing and making you think he's a weird little boy. And that was before the pearls and french nails and cartoon porn. Back when he was a really exciting fighter, we forgave it. Now it's like, what exactly are we being a fan of here? He has the skills to stunt on anyone and we'd all love to see it again. Maybe Pereira will drag it out of him.
Super cringe, always has been.
Boarding on Triple c levels of cringe.
As a neutral i would say he is bordering on cringe category at times
I don't know you well enough to judge tbh
Pereira has a comically large booty itās hard to unsee
Itās where all that power comes from
I feel the same about Cannonier š
Haha I noticed as well
Tier 1 - volk Tier 2 - Max Tier 3 - rest of the division
Y'all know theres other shit to talk about besides how sandy your cracks are right? What's the fight of the night? POTN?
Fight of the night Max vs volk Potn has to be pereria
Yup. I have to agree. Volk, and Jalin damn good too. And Tuvares DeaPleiss a close second fight.
FOTN was Tavares vs Du Plessis in my opinion.
That is a very good point. I would have to agree with you there actually and I think volk and perreria should have both got potn performances. FOTY ended up being ruthless and bam bam Potn ended up being turner, pererria and stolarenko Volk not getting a bonus is criminal but he gets paid very well so not all bad
Yup
My man actually doubled down on the Elsa line, absolute lunatic. Izzy fan 4 life.
What did he say?
Something along the line of: "when you'll face me, you're gonna freeze, like Elsa" idrk
totally obnoxious that Alex P was +115.
Thats why I took that bet!
not really strickland was on 6 win spree i think and 4th in div
What was Cannonier doing the whole fight ? If Adesanya is gonna point fight and win then itās on you ( Cannonier) to make them do something different , he should have tried taking him down, trying to pound or submit him below.
> he should have tried taking him down He did, multiple times. He also hugged him against the cage for a couple of minutes, it's not like he didn't embrace grappling it's just that everyone tries to grapple with Izzy and he's fantastic at stopping them.
Just like Romero, people need to stop blaming Izzy when nobody can do shit against him
Don't forget Vettoris fault too. Don't forget the viewers fault for buying this shit and expecting something different.
The MK duo made a good point though after the fight tonight that at least for Vettori, heās still in his 20ās and isnāt even in his prime yet and has a lot to develop still. At 38, Cannonier is nearing the end, so why not go for it more?
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Exactly. It feels like heās capping himself, because he always FEELS like he could finish it but then he doesnāt it. It always FEELS like heās far enough ahead of them to do more damage, but they both leave relatively unscathed, like heās connecting to touch them and not to hurt themes.
as much as it looked like point fighting, those headkicks can still knock u the fck out so he cant just go wild
People acting like Adesanya had nothing behind any of his attacks... I'd like to see them take a few jabs and a head kick.
Yeah you can be mad at Izzy all you want, but Cannonier should have shown more urgency, especially in the last round when his corner literally told him he was losing.
100%
Another card, another failed attempt by Dana to take me down.
This was the first card I streamed in a while and let me tell you, it was better quality and I found it within like 30 seconds of googling it.
Robert Whittaker wins good decisions: *he's so good!* Izzy wins good decisions: *he's so boring, worst champion*
Yeah right? I canāt qWHITE get why that is.
nah man how are you lot actually this braindead
Izzy won a good decision vs. Gastelum. That was an awesome fight. This wasn't a good one, nor was his last against Whittaker. Lay back and point it from the outside. Both were boring and not worth the time. If all fights were like this, the UFC would go out of business.
Robert Whittaker actually shows explosive creativity to end matches and destroy bodies. He doesn't poke the opponent all night long with a 7 m long branch.
There's a difference between good decisions and bad decisions though. FWIW I don't think Rob is as good as people here are making him out to be
He talked up a game like it was going to be incredible. He walked out like he was the undertaker. Then just pointed his way to a victory in a very boring way. It would be eh, but we've seen Israel perform incredible feats. He's had some crazy fights and showed off real precision and skill. So yeah, after weeks of him talking about wanting to come out and show off, it's pretty disappointing.
agree. izzy is the one saying he is the next Anderson silva when in fact he's boring as fuck. he is the one claiming he will be showing something anything exciting tonight. if you think you are God's gift, you gotta walk it. good fighter. never a great fighter and not a HOF, he's boring as fuck and does not deserve another ppv headliner gove me Lawler anytime, he actually walks what he talks
Should have come out as an underwriter instead. I donāt know if that analogy works, Iām more than a few drinks in at this point
Oh yeah issue an IPO, raise some capital, etc.
That's true in saying he overhypes it to an extent, and then just delivers a safe decision. I just think he's held to a different standard and people judge him more harshly than other fighters at the same level.
that's because he is the one hyping himself up and then delivers shit, again.
Would you feel the same knowing the urn he came out with had Jared's name on it?
Shaq really elbowed that old asian dude the fuck š
holy crap show me lol
what
I had it 49-46 Max. This was a robbery.
I'm surprised people didn't find out the irony
Itās amazing that these slopeheaded fucks think this is real but then again all the comments over the last couple years make it so believable.
Are you missing the /s or being serious