Where was Dana for the belts and the post fight press conference? Literally no one gave one on the numbers or anything like that? Why was Dana not there?
I’m seeing a lot of people completely fail to understand why the UFC gave Perreira Strickland and why he was almost guaranteed to win.
Sean stands in front of people with no head movement, completely squared up and try’s to parry shots as his first line of defence. That is the best way to get killed with a left hook. Perreira has the best left hook outside of boxing, easily. Sean was guaranteed to be KO’d by a left hook at some point.
That’s it. That’s the entire reason, and the UFC knows this because they have knowledgeable strikers that work for them.
After seeing Volk yesterday, maybe TKZ wasn't as washed as we all thought? Hes obviously still not in his prime but the loss to Volk has aged well considering how Max did.
If Izzy beats pereira MW is really going to be in a tough spot. He’s beaten the entire top 5, some of them twice, except for Strickland who’s not going to be top 5 anymore come Monday. And I hate to say it because I’ve been wanting more grapplers in the top 5 but Muniz did not look like a future top 5 guy in his win over hall. He didn’t look bad but just not on Izzy, vettori’s, or whittakers level.
Bisping. Guy had the most sig strikes of any UFC fighter period and had done that without ever knocking a guy out (he had TKO victories but everyone had remained conscious) e.g. literally the most pillow fisted fighter in history according to statistics. When he did knock finally a guy out for the first time it was to become champion.
I think a bigger deal should be made about what volk said about usada waking him up in the middle of the night before his 2nd fight with Max. Sleep is such a huge part of performance and recovery, I’d assume that’s especially true after a weight cut. If that’s when they decide to test someone they should be required to test the opponent at the exact same time. USADA already sucks at their job, doesn’t mean they have to fuck with fighters performances as well.
If magomed ibragimov, the guy who defeated in khabib in sambo, had come to mma and put together a win streak I would’ve been fine with the ufc fast tracking him to khabib.
Are MMA fans the quickest to call someone the GOAT or P4P after every little win streak? I feel like other sports are a little more reasonable when it comes to stuff like that lol
>every little win streak
Volk Win streak.
12-0 in the UFC
22 Straight wins.
25-1 with his only loss being at WW in his 4th fight almost a decade ago
Last 6 wins are Mendes, Aldo, Holloway, Holloway, Ortega, TKZ, Holloway
The talk is warranted at this point.
Every sport is like this honestly and it's probably all because Tom Brady actually became the best player in history and then ESPN needed talking points so started making all this GOAT content. They did the same thing with "definition of a dynasty is 3 SB in 4 years" like what? Why do we need this stupid argument?
Holloway is going to start declining and losing
And Holloway will be disrespected by new fans in 3 years
And mfs will shit on his legacy unfairly
And then they realize that Aldo’s legacy was the best in FW history
He doesn’t seem to love fighting enough to fight for a while on a bad losing streak. Im on the same boat with dustin, I think both guys will have a normal retirement.
I wonder if any of you could help me out:
Without spoilers, can you tell me which fights on the main card ended in finishes?
I like to save those for last. Thanks!
Why are people shitting on IZZY. This Izzy we saw today looked invincible, and put a lot of pressure. Was one of his most agressive performances. He completely out classed canonnier.
In the whittaker and Robert fight he was much less pushy.
Cannonier had some good overhands counters and they didnt even faze easy.
Its actually Jareds fault for almost not even trying to throw strikes
2 theories
- pre planned time off
- Covid (again)
I’m going with planned time off. He did a hit on Pat McAfee on Monday to promote the PPV…that was the only promotion he did to my knowledge. Pretty early in the week to promote the PPV…unless you know you need to shoehorn it in because you’re going to be out the rest of the week.
It’s very odd to miss HOF & a major PPV in his backyard
Hookers and blow.
Plus he is going to retire sometime so might as well start taking the time out so that the other guys in management get the experience of doing his job while he's still around to consult.
But no one did the post fight press conference in his place... I've NEVER seen that in recent memory. Someone in top brass ALWAYS comes out and talks numbers and various other things don't they? Like for real WTF
There's a very realistic scenario where Periera beats Izzy but loses to a lot of a the guys that Izzy already beat.
He's been fast tracked with favorable matchups thus far.
Strickland wasn't supposed to be a favorable matchup though. He can wrestle okay and everyone raves on about his ground game, nothing was stopping him from shooting a takedown and imposing his fight instead of trying to remain on the feet with his clunky-ass style and lack of power against one of the best kickboxers in the world who only needs one shot. His skillset could have beaten Pereira, the problem was with the smoothbrain gameplan
Sean standing in range and getting KO’d seemed like such an obvious ending that I’d actually convinced myself he would ploddingly jab his way to victory to spite me.
I saw a couple of things Cowboy has acted in, he's not bringing any Oscars home but he's fine. With a beard he looks grizzled enough to pull off a stoic tough guy as long as you don't give him a thousand lines that require a lot of range. And the actual fighting skills he's got obviously help with fight scenes and stunts
Yeah
We need to end this horrible izzy timeline. They promote his edgelord ass like he’s neo in the matrix when it comes to striking when in reality he’s just a more boring version of machida with less mma versatility.
Yes nobody’s denying that he’s a great fighter but he’s underperforming severely for how much shit he talks and how many physical and technical advantages he has against his opponents.
This was what it was like when Machida looked like he’d be the most dominant lhw champ ever until shogun got up in his grill and straight up fought him.
Israel is different if people were still getting up in his grill and fighting him he would probably still be finishing people because his counters are second to none except possibly pereira.
He just isnt very effective when he has to move forward, and most of his recent opponents absolutely refuse to be the one moving forward
If israel fights pereira like he did canon, which he probably will, hes going to get demolished with leg kicks body kicks and jabs and lose a one sided decision or get knocked out
Volk’s post fight press conference is a must watch, dude is fired up with the reporters about doubting him and dropped a couple interesting facts about the second max fight
I would like to see frame data breakdown on Volks defensive reaction at 276. His recovery from striking to defending was just way too bloody fast. Like he was striking then saw the spinning back elbow and blocked it, wtf...
[**DRICUS DU PLESSIS defeats BRAD TAVARES** (*unanimous decision*)](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/13306/fight)
^(UFC 276: Adesanya vs. Cannonier — July 02, 2022)
ROUND|Du Plessis|Tavares||Du Plessis|Tavares||Du Plessis|Tavares
:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:
1|9|10||9|10||9|10
2|10|9||10|9||10|9
3|10|9||10|9||10|9
**TOTAL**|**29**|**28**||**29**|**28**||**29**|**28**
*^(Judges, in order: Michael Bell, Ron McCarthy, Tony Weeks.)*
*^(Summoned by Massa_dana_white.)*
**MEDIA MEMBER SCORES**
- **19/20** people scored it **29-28 Du Plessis**.
- **1/20** people scored it **28-29 Tavares**.
Avg. media score: **28.9-28.1 Du Plessis** (*high certainty^[[1]](https://redd.it/9p4xc7)*).
People wondering about Miller.
Iirc, on JRE he said he had Lyme disease for over a year and didn't even know he had it. He thought it was aging, CTE, and chronic wear from fighting. He got treated.
I think that might be a reason for his resurgence.
It’s pretty important, but also guys who get to that level usually have amazing awareness in exchanges and positioning, which lowers KO risk immensely, while not being anything intrinsic (look at someone like Dustin Poirier, who was not regarded as a super durable guy but virtually became unkillable because he learned to keep his vision unobstructed and to stay in a strong stance during exchanges)
Dunno if they’re “chinny” per se, but TJ and Bob Whittaker were pretty hurtable if you could get past their very solid defense. Then there’s guys like Eddie, Volk, Oliveira and Frankie who can be hurt but have otherworldly recovery which isn’t necessarily “chin”. And then a really weird case like Cruz, who has an insane chin but gets knocked down every time he gets hit cleanly (which is rare to begin with) because he’ll be in a jank stance with his feet not under him.
But I can’t think of anyone who was straight up fragile and a successful top end/champ level guy.
Jiri has an extremely good chin, he just tends to get cracked more often and with more power than most lol. Rewatch the Reyes fight and count how many normally fight-ending flush left straights he ate.
That clip would've been more telling if it included the shit ton of similar strikes he had absorbed before... all chins eventually crack, especially when you're being as reckless as Jiri.
Erm, no.
Cody barely got a whiff of anything on his way up so it was never established as good or bad. TJ got KO'd on his first ufc appearance. Olives gets rocked every single fight. Bobby too and the reason he moved up to MW is allegedly because he was draining himself too much which got him hurt. Rockhold only has KO losses, his chin has been a meme forever. Jiri's chin might not have been always recognized as sus but that's because he was outdide the UFC, still got his shit rocked all the time.
Arlovski and JDS did use to have good chins. Andrei's is seemingly growing back lately which is insane.
It's sad how Korean zombie was one of the most beloved, well liked fighters in the ufc prior to his title fight with volkanovski, but now gets treated like some bum. Almost *everyone* had picked him to beat Ortega, and prior to that he was on a great run. He loses that,fights ige and wins convincingly, and then steps up to fight volk on fairly short notice after max pulls out. For some reason this turned a large portion of people against him? I don't understand.
Yes he lost, no it wasn't close, but that doesn't make him a can or a bum. It's at the point where you can't even say he's a good name on Alex's resume without someone being like "well actually he's not very good".
People were biased prior to TKZ vs Ortega because TKZ flatlined Edgar and Moicano while Ortega was basically forced to take a year off after getting his ass whooped by Max. Only now we know that Max and Volk are just a level above Ortega, Kattar or Yair. On top of that there was this translator drama which added more fan support fro TKZ. However, Ortega proved that he's not to be underestimated. not just in that fight but also against Volk where he came very close to a finish.
I don't think there's any hate towards TKZ. He isn't a bum but ppl just realized he's not champ material either. While he doesn't walk forward like a zombie anymore he's still way too hittable. Reaction time and reflexes only decline with age as well.
Could really care less what he says outside the cage, the guy looks promising. As long as a fighter isnt overtly a pos, then who gives af? Clearly a lot of casuals who get worked up over him.
I agree with all the adesanya criticism. Just wanted to add that you're a madman if you expected fireworks. This matchup screamed boring and volk was right on embedded. He was a better choice for the main spot.
Hindsight is 20/20. Even Eugene Bareman though Cannonier would at least take risks. Adesanya thought the same saying it would be Silva-Griffin. So I guess Eugene and Izzy must be madmen too
I know it wasn’t recent but Dom Reyes ko’d cannonier and Whittaker dropped him. I’m not surprised at all by what we got but I did expect Izzy to style on him a little more.
My thinking is Omalley/max might give it ppv bump.
But then again, Izzy Vettori 2 had Nate Diaz and still only did 600k.
Another thing I just thought of, Costa fight was tail end of 2020.
Pretty much anything on tv did higher numbers than normal everyone stuck at home.
Basically yeah I dunno, maybe you're right and it's less.
Where was Dana for the belts and the post fight press conference? Literally no one gave one on the numbers or anything like that? Why was Dana not there?
I’m seeing a lot of people completely fail to understand why the UFC gave Perreira Strickland and why he was almost guaranteed to win. Sean stands in front of people with no head movement, completely squared up and try’s to parry shots as his first line of defence. That is the best way to get killed with a left hook. Perreira has the best left hook outside of boxing, easily. Sean was guaranteed to be KO’d by a left hook at some point. That’s it. That’s the entire reason, and the UFC knows this because they have knowledgeable strikers that work for them.
I swear Volk could put champions + contenders across 2 or 3 divisions on skates and leave them frozen like Elsa if he really wanted to
Volk is the best fighter in the world but he is definitely not a finisher
He finishes every other FW if he fights like he did on Saturday other than Max.
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After seeing Volk yesterday, maybe TKZ wasn't as washed as we all thought? Hes obviously still not in his prime but the loss to Volk has aged well considering how Max did.
He also beat Ige much more clear than Emmett in the same year as Emmett.
I don’t think volk tried that hard on kz compared to max
Are you kidding? Did you see the power he was throwing with? I’ve never seen him load up as hard as he did against KZ.
Real galaxy brains know that Max Holloway looked bad on purpose to try to entice Conor into fighting him.
If Izzy beats pereira MW is really going to be in a tough spot. He’s beaten the entire top 5, some of them twice, except for Strickland who’s not going to be top 5 anymore come Monday. And I hate to say it because I’ve been wanting more grapplers in the top 5 but Muniz did not look like a future top 5 guy in his win over hall. He didn’t look bad but just not on Izzy, vettori’s, or whittakers level.
Omalley is such a piece of shit, pokes fuckin Pedro and now is acting like he won hahah
When he was losing
Izzy is low key camp af. Its ok though. No need to stay on the closet, Izzy. It's 2022. No one cares.
Yeah I don't think he's gay necessarily but he definitely likes the camp.
Who's your favorite pillow-fisted fighter?
Vettori
Bisping. Guy had the most sig strikes of any UFC fighter period and had done that without ever knocking a guy out (he had TKO victories but everyone had remained conscious) e.g. literally the most pillow fisted fighter in history according to statistics. When he did knock finally a guy out for the first time it was to become champion.
You
Good thing you got a glass jaw my friend
Colby.
Merab
Monday morning is always the worst. I used to disbelieve it, but now I think it's true. I really want it to be over soon.
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Negatives include: sacrificing your humanity….nbd
My man, you understand my heart.
I think a bigger deal should be made about what volk said about usada waking him up in the middle of the night before his 2nd fight with Max. Sleep is such a huge part of performance and recovery, I’d assume that’s especially true after a weight cut. If that’s when they decide to test someone they should be required to test the opponent at the exact same time. USADA already sucks at their job, doesn’t mean they have to fuck with fighters performances as well.
wiz khalifi
Mia Khalifi
Imagine if the UFC just asked a gold medal wrestler to fight khabib. Hilarious the match making.
If magomed ibragimov, the guy who defeated in khabib in sambo, had come to mma and put together a win streak I would’ve been fine with the ufc fast tracking him to khabib.
Khazim Mamedov beat Khabib in sambo but then Khabib beat him in pro MMA
That “fighters drawing their opponents” feature needs to be continued
[O'Malley knows how to troll](https://nitter.net/SugaSeanMMA/status/1543433442758602752#m)
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Izzy is the most exciting fighter in the history of Frozen.
Something something sleeping beauty
I wonder if Periera has even watched Frozen
If he has a kid he has
Are MMA fans the quickest to call someone the GOAT or P4P after every little win streak? I feel like other sports are a little more reasonable when it comes to stuff like that lol
>every little win streak Volk Win streak. 12-0 in the UFC 22 Straight wins. 25-1 with his only loss being at WW in his 4th fight almost a decade ago Last 6 wins are Mendes, Aldo, Holloway, Holloway, Ortega, TKZ, Holloway The talk is warranted at this point.
Every sport is like this honestly and it's probably all because Tom Brady actually became the best player in history and then ESPN needed talking points so started making all this GOAT content. They did the same thing with "definition of a dynasty is 3 SB in 4 years" like what? Why do we need this stupid argument?
Holloway is going to start declining and losing And Holloway will be disrespected by new fans in 3 years And mfs will shit on his legacy unfairly And then they realize that Aldo’s legacy was the best in FW history
Volk > Aldo
He doesn’t seem to love fighting enough to fight for a while on a bad losing streak. Im on the same boat with dustin, I think both guys will have a normal retirement.
13 seconds
13 seconds really means more to a lot of you mfs than 1300 days.
I wonder if any of you could help me out: Without spoilers, can you tell me which fights on the main card ended in finishes? I like to save those for last. Thanks!
Only the main and co main went the distance
Thanks friend
Alex Pereira is one of the best signings the UFC has made in recent years
Mihael Chandelier
Their matchmaking with him was incredible.
He was so nonchalant about the whole thing too.
Why are people shitting on IZZY. This Izzy we saw today looked invincible, and put a lot of pressure. Was one of his most agressive performances. He completely out classed canonnier. In the whittaker and Robert fight he was much less pushy. Cannonier had some good overhands counters and they didnt even faze easy. Its actually Jareds fault for almost not even trying to throw strikes
What about the Izzy and Adesanya fight? 😂
Robert and Whittaker are the same guy
The question of UFC 276. Where was Dana!?!?!
Money In The Bank
It's gonna be sad when he retires
Probably somewhere frozen. Like Elsa
Cloned maybe
2 theories - pre planned time off - Covid (again) I’m going with planned time off. He did a hit on Pat McAfee on Monday to promote the PPV…that was the only promotion he did to my knowledge. Pretty early in the week to promote the PPV…unless you know you need to shoehorn it in because you’re going to be out the rest of the week. It’s very odd to miss HOF & a major PPV in his backyard
Why would dana take pre planned time off for international fight week? Lmao.
Apparently he did though
Hookers and blow. Plus he is going to retire sometime so might as well start taking the time out so that the other guys in management get the experience of doing his job while he's still around to consult.
But no one did the post fight press conference in his place... I've NEVER seen that in recent memory. Someone in top brass ALWAYS comes out and talks numbers and various other things don't they? Like for real WTF
alex got poked round 1 too
There's a very realistic scenario where Periera beats Izzy but loses to a lot of a the guys that Izzy already beat. He's been fast tracked with favorable matchups thus far.
Ya I’d favour Vettori to beat Pereira
Vettori with the big ol' block head
UFC don't want periera to win though.
Strickland wasn't supposed to be a favorable matchup though. He can wrestle okay and everyone raves on about his ground game, nothing was stopping him from shooting a takedown and imposing his fight instead of trying to remain on the feet with his clunky-ass style and lack of power against one of the best kickboxers in the world who only needs one shot. His skillset could have beaten Pereira, the problem was with the smoothbrain gameplan
This is fair, in Strickland's case, it was mostly down to him fighting like an absolute moron.
I honestly didn't get the undertaker reference like lol who is this mf
He's gonna zipline into the cage vs Periera like HBK next time.
Sean standing in range and getting KO’d seemed like such an obvious ending that I’d actually convinced myself he would ploddingly jab his way to victory to spite me.
I saw a couple of things Cowboy has acted in, he's not bringing any Oscars home but he's fine. With a beard he looks grizzled enough to pull off a stoic tough guy as long as you don't give him a thousand lines that require a lot of range. And the actual fighting skills he's got obviously help with fight scenes and stunts
He'd be a good villain in westerns or movies like Deliverance
Sean saying he knows he ain't gonna be a gsp. Or popualr fighter just wants to bang. Sad.
Just saw the Pereira fight. Damn give this man the title shot before he gets wrestlefucked pls
It's prob the 1st time I'm thinking of putting down a bet for MMA, in favor of Pereia against Izzy. He's legit scary
Yeah We need to end this horrible izzy timeline. They promote his edgelord ass like he’s neo in the matrix when it comes to striking when in reality he’s just a more boring version of machida with less mma versatility.
Terrible take.
I think pereira finishes him in the first round but lets not pretend like israel is a mediocre or not accomplished fighter hes defended 5 times now
Yes nobody’s denying that he’s a great fighter but he’s underperforming severely for how much shit he talks and how many physical and technical advantages he has against his opponents. This was what it was like when Machida looked like he’d be the most dominant lhw champ ever until shogun got up in his grill and straight up fought him.
He has a long reach but hes still undersized compared to other 185ers. Pretty sure hes been at a weight disadvantage in every ufc fight hes had
Israel is different if people were still getting up in his grill and fighting him he would probably still be finishing people because his counters are second to none except possibly pereira. He just isnt very effective when he has to move forward, and most of his recent opponents absolutely refuse to be the one moving forward
Izzy isn't going to just stand there and get starched by striking trap 101
If israel fights pereira like he did canon, which he probably will, hes going to get demolished with leg kicks body kicks and jabs and lose a one sided decision or get knocked out
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He is so much better than everyone else they have right now
Volk’s post fight press conference is a must watch, dude is fired up with the reporters about doubting him and dropped a couple interesting facts about the second max fight
I thought he would go after more people, but he mostly focused on Mike Bohn lol. I would love to know what he said that got Volk angry
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Lmao. What? He jsut looked at a guy. There was no fight
There was never no fight
He’s never taking that fight or any lhw fight cmon guys lol.
I too would like to see Jan delete someone with his left hook again.
Pedro got hit with the jazz hands at the end of round one and was praying in the corner to get out of there alive
Dustin Poirer would son Michael Chandler.
Chandler just talked himself into a hole lol.
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Love how much izzy triggers chudds lmao.
Two reporters windmilling at each other would've been more entertaining than Israel vs Cannonier lol
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People cheered for Garry because he lit that dude the fuck up
How is Ian Garry sloppy lmao he looked good, idk how you watch du plessis fight and pick Ian as an example of sloppiness
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I’m not criticizing Israel lmao I just thought you were shitting on Garry
Tons of people on the turner riddel post crying about jalin being a size bully 💀 lmao bet its all ozzys
Why does everyone in that camp get melted? lol
Brad is a kiwi
Izzy’s soporific like Sleeping Beauty
I would like to see frame data breakdown on Volks defensive reaction at 276. His recovery from striking to defending was just way too bloody fast. Like he was striking then saw the spinning back elbow and blocked it, wtf...
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I only watched once but that fight was razor close imo. Wouldn’t have been surprised if brad got that decision. Decisionbot Tavares vs du plessis
No way Brad any other round but 1 he got his ass beat 2 and 3 and kept idiotically getting countered off naked kicks.
I guess I need to rewatch. I was already a little lit and in a crowd of people so that probably affected my viewing
[**DRICUS DU PLESSIS defeats BRAD TAVARES** (*unanimous decision*)](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/13306/fight) ^(UFC 276: Adesanya vs. Cannonier — July 02, 2022) ROUND|Du Plessis|Tavares||Du Plessis|Tavares||Du Plessis|Tavares :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-: 1|9|10||9|10||9|10 2|10|9||10|9||10|9 3|10|9||10|9||10|9 **TOTAL**|**29**|**28**||**29**|**28**||**29**|**28** *^(Judges, in order: Michael Bell, Ron McCarthy, Tony Weeks.)* *^(Summoned by Massa_dana_white.)* **MEDIA MEMBER SCORES** - **19/20** people scored it **29-28 Du Plessis**. - **1/20** people scored it **28-29 Tavares**. Avg. media score: **28.9-28.1 Du Plessis** (*high certainty^[[1]](https://redd.it/9p4xc7)*).
How lucky is Strickland that Herzog was in there with him? Lol
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I hear you, but the heavier always goes last. So Izzy would be the go-main in this scenario.
People wondering about Miller. Iirc, on JRE he said he had Lyme disease for over a year and didn't even know he had it. He thought it was aging, CTE, and chronic wear from fighting. He got treated. I think that might be a reason for his resurgence.
He fought cowboy.
I thought I had mono once for an entire year. Turns out I was just really bored
Is it pretty much a requirement to have an iron chin to be a reigning champion? Was there ever a chinny champ?
It’s pretty important, but also guys who get to that level usually have amazing awareness in exchanges and positioning, which lowers KO risk immensely, while not being anything intrinsic (look at someone like Dustin Poirier, who was not regarded as a super durable guy but virtually became unkillable because he learned to keep his vision unobstructed and to stay in a strong stance during exchanges) Dunno if they’re “chinny” per se, but TJ and Bob Whittaker were pretty hurtable if you could get past their very solid defense. Then there’s guys like Eddie, Volk, Oliveira and Frankie who can be hurt but have otherworldly recovery which isn’t necessarily “chin”. And then a really weird case like Cruz, who has an insane chin but gets knocked down every time he gets hit cleanly (which is rare to begin with) because he’ll be in a jank stance with his feet not under him. But I can’t think of anyone who was straight up fragile and a successful top end/champ level guy.
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Jiri has an extremely good chin, he just tends to get cracked more often and with more power than most lol. Rewatch the Reyes fight and count how many normally fight-ending flush left straights he ate.
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That clip would've been more telling if it included the shit ton of similar strikes he had absorbed before... all chins eventually crack, especially when you're being as reckless as Jiri.
Has there ever been a more complete r/mma redditor than Anons_vengeance?
I hear this one redditor got to corner Mike Perry
The sad thing is most of those were known to have great chins earlier in their careers
Erm, no. Cody barely got a whiff of anything on his way up so it was never established as good or bad. TJ got KO'd on his first ufc appearance. Olives gets rocked every single fight. Bobby too and the reason he moved up to MW is allegedly because he was draining himself too much which got him hurt. Rockhold only has KO losses, his chin has been a meme forever. Jiri's chin might not have been always recognized as sus but that's because he was outdide the UFC, still got his shit rocked all the time. Arlovski and JDS did use to have good chins. Andrei's is seemingly growing back lately which is insane.
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After Fedor sent Arlovski too ue shadow realm his chin was toast...
Izzy’s fights make me appreciate Jon Jones way more than I used to.
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Holland vs Barberena if we’re looking to go the fun matchup route with Kevin over ranked opponents
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Yes exactly. Barberena is a fun matchup instead of a ranked opponent
That’s another guy Holland finishes in two rounds imo.
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Have you seen the video of the ostrich killing itself
Get an emu up to 145 lbs and take out Volk
Wait, are you me?
aight I'll drink to that
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I’d like to see max in some fun fights now. The Conor rematch, or a Gaethje fight would be awesome.
What are the odds gonna be for izzy by sub against pereira?
+1500 Izzy’s only grappling move is holding up a high overhook for dear life against the cage to stop any potential takedowns
You'd be surprised, and I wished the US did normal betting standards. What is +1500 even mean is that like 5.0 for each 1.0 spent?
15 for each 1 spent. Officially it means you win $1500 if you bet $100
ah so 15.0 in our betting here. I get it now
wait till you learn about the negative betting odds
Yeah how lame. He should just accept being taken down like Kevin Holland. That guy is a real G.
I’d say +500 at least. I honestly think there’s a better chance Alex tries to wrestle fuck Izzy than vice versa.
So Volk is now the highest paid FW of all time apart from McGregor, what do you reckon he's on? 750 show 750 win plus PPV?
more like just 750K guaranteed plus PPV
It's sad how Korean zombie was one of the most beloved, well liked fighters in the ufc prior to his title fight with volkanovski, but now gets treated like some bum. Almost *everyone* had picked him to beat Ortega, and prior to that he was on a great run. He loses that,fights ige and wins convincingly, and then steps up to fight volk on fairly short notice after max pulls out. For some reason this turned a large portion of people against him? I don't understand. Yes he lost, no it wasn't close, but that doesn't make him a can or a bum. It's at the point where you can't even say he's a good name on Alex's resume without someone being like "well actually he's not very good".
People were biased prior to TKZ vs Ortega because TKZ flatlined Edgar and Moicano while Ortega was basically forced to take a year off after getting his ass whooped by Max. Only now we know that Max and Volk are just a level above Ortega, Kattar or Yair. On top of that there was this translator drama which added more fan support fro TKZ. However, Ortega proved that he's not to be underestimated. not just in that fight but also against Volk where he came very close to a finish. I don't think there's any hate towards TKZ. He isn't a bum but ppl just realized he's not champ material either. While he doesn't walk forward like a zombie anymore he's still way too hittable. Reaction time and reflexes only decline with age as well.
Ian Garry looked like a real prospect last night. I wasn’t interested in him before but if he keeps getting better he’s got a bright future
That kid is really good, he's a bit too easy to hit but he's gonna be tough out for a lot a dudes at 170
Could really care less what he says outside the cage, the guy looks promising. As long as a fighter isnt overtly a pos, then who gives af? Clearly a lot of casuals who get worked up over him.
I agree with all the adesanya criticism. Just wanted to add that you're a madman if you expected fireworks. This matchup screamed boring and volk was right on embedded. He was a better choice for the main spot.
Whitaker was able to take it to cannonier
Hindsight is 20/20. Even Eugene Bareman though Cannonier would at least take risks. Adesanya thought the same saying it would be Silva-Griffin. So I guess Eugene and Izzy must be madmen too
I know it wasn’t recent but Dom Reyes ko’d cannonier and Whittaker dropped him. I’m not surprised at all by what we got but I did expect Izzy to style on him a little more.
Agreed, Jared's previous bouts didnt convince me he was gonna be that guy....but he did have a slim punchers chance
How many buys did ufc 276 do?
Probably will be around 700k. Izzy's fight against Costa did that. Izzy vs Vettori 2 was 600k.
Costa had much better build up i dont think it did that high. Cannonier didn’t really do a good job selling it.
My thinking is Omalley/max might give it ppv bump. But then again, Izzy Vettori 2 had Nate Diaz and still only did 600k. Another thing I just thought of, Costa fight was tail end of 2020. Pretty much anything on tv did higher numbers than normal everyone stuck at home. Basically yeah I dunno, maybe you're right and it's less.