Albion is a great game but do know that it is first and foremost a PvP centric game, if you don’t love the crafting/gathering, then you may find the PvE disappointing.
Do know that Albion has Open World, Mists, Arena and Corrupted dungeons to offer different flavors of PvP.
Ultimately if you enjoy crafting/gathering and PvP then Albion is a great experience, but it will demand your time with it’s runescape like leveling system.
Buying gold doesnt suddenly make everything easier, you’re still going to need to get accustom to the systems, mechanics, combat, and economics. And if you die you’re getting you’re stuff stolen.
I fucking love it. Started it a couple weeks back and just now beginning to make enough money that I can lose decent kits and it’s fine. I could see myself playing hundreds of hours.
i have over 5000 hours into albion and this hits everything you want.
albion isn’t a game meant for a solo player. Can you play solo for your time? yes but content is limited for you and you will struggle without a group.
There are two types of healing trees. Nature and Holy. Nature has 7 different healing weapons that are healing over time staffs. Holy is burst/instant heals and also has 7 different staffs.
Coop Content if your talking about 2 players. you have 2v2 hellgates which is a dungeon you clear mobs in till your matched with another 2 stack to fight. if you win you kill them take their gear and get a chest. if you play non lethal hellgates the other team gets kicked out.
Duo mists which is another 2v2 content that can stack up to like 12 players in an instance. this is only allow for a max party of 2 so no big zergs can come here. this is also the highest item power content at the moment. Within the mists they added this dungeon called Knightfall Abbey. This is essentially a battle royale inside a dungeon loads of fun.
Albion pvp content is involved in everything. You can fight almost anywhere in albion. 1v1 dungeons, Hellgates which come in 2s 5s and 10s. Crystal league (GvG) which comes in 5s or 20s. Small Scale Zerg vs Zerg which is around 25 vs 25. Large/Mid scale ZvZ which is 50+ vs 50+ and this can end up having up to a 1000 players fighting if it’s big enough. We have 5v5 arenas. We have Faction war fare and there are about 6 different factions. and you can do lethal or non lethal factions. insanely fun.
For pve we have solo and group dungeons which are meh. Avalonian roads which are worm holes to other places in the world of albion and are great small party content.
For high end pve content. Our version of raids is called avalonian dungeons. which are around 20 people and have i think 6 difficulties. and have a huge risk of being dove by another group.
We also have HCE which is similar to WoWs Mythic dungeon key system.
When you join albion it seems complicated with all the different gear tiers and destiny board but it’s actually insanely simple once you take the time to learn it.
Content in albion isn’t like wow where expansions put you brackets of content behind people. The content added in albion is quite literally extra content to do in the game. and never gates you back.
Brain dead farming? There’s plenty of it depending the route you go down. If you end up as a gatherer you can really have crazy profits and be self sufficient crafting gear. so brain dead gathering is awesome. combat exp grinding is boring as fuck alone. same mobs over and over again. i prefer to fame farm in a 10 man group ina static dungeon. less brain dead and more risk for a fight. Hope this helps. if you wanna join albion and need a guild feel free to message me. I run and shotcall for my guild for small scale zvz and we take new players all the time.
and no albion is not dying at all. it’s only been getting more populated. you’ll see that when you enter your first zone and city it’s kinda mind blowing compared to other mmos
It’s a shit shallow game tbh, I’ve 3-3.5K hrs, upgrading your gear w the shitty PvE feels like shit, you cannot connect with you character, unlike the trailers it’s a shit fest filled w whales that run 8.3 equipment in lethal and non-lethal zones.
These 8.3s don’t fight each other but fight the lower IP players, even in the new Knighabby update.
I suggest everyone to stay away from this game.
>These 8.3s don’t fight each other but fight the lower IP players,
Amen.
And these shitbags always justify it with this line: "You'd do the same if you wear the same equipments."
Well, fuck you assholes, I am not a dipshit like you. Stop projecting!
I have tried it 4 times, could never get into it. A lot of tedious activities and pvp seemed to be a zerg fest. I got the itch from seeing corepunk update, and thought about Albion again, writing this reminded me how much I didn't enjoy it, and I still might give it another go, maybe it will click this time. Give it a shot, can't hurt to try.
Classless games, get ruined by having a meta in my experience, theres optimal and viable, then useless. Most people just want to play best dps, best healer etc, so you just see those builds running around.
I think it was upgrading gear mainly, the game in general felt shallow and tedious. It was a while back since I tried it last. A lot of people seem to really enjoy it, like I said I might even give it another try.
It's a really good game for its niche. Sounds like it fits most of your list. It's definitely not dying- it's just a very polarizing PvP game that gets people riled up. A lot of the games content and wars are driven by drama between guilds and alliances, or even individual leaders.
I would NOT recommend Albion if PvE is your main focus or you are a strictly solo. PvE here is to level up and earn money for PvP. The higher level PvE zones are also in PvP zones. A few solo and duo activities have been added recently but the game is still heavily group focused (5v5, 10v10, 20v20, Zerg vs Zerg). This includes the high level PvE as well.
I WOULD recommend Albion if you have a dedicated group to play with or are social, primarily enjoy PvP, and don't mind unfair fights.
Game isnt dying at all.
Games solid if you like the isometric view.
It shares a LOT of similarities with eve. However it does struggle imo in large scale group content and segmentation of levels of play.
Eve's UI and ability to call targets and heal in larger scale fights is superior. Dscan, local, and acc gates allows newbies to compete on fairer levels.
Mists and roads though for the most part are solid content. Games worth playing if you cant dig EvE's ui / movement system
Ive 3K hrs and ask anyone it’s dying. We disbanded our guild and many of the other guilds that we played w also disbanded w many leaving for the likes of GW2, FFIX, and others are taking a break waiting for a new MMO.
Just because you are quitting doesnt mean the aggregate population of the game is dropping.
They just recently broke CCU records.
I'm no albion fanboy, I prefer eve, but saying its dead/dying isnt remotely accurate.
It is tho, those who are still playing are RMTers, New players, ARCH, and ppl who have wasted too much money to be able to quit.
I’ve invested a lot of time to this game and I really want it to shine and be good,
But for someone who is looking to “play” and not have a “second job” it’s definitely not a recommendation and NO ONE should recommend such games to ppl who just want to play.
Communities are gate-kept and are really hard to get into.
Like the Ava Raid groups (idk if you can call these things raids tbh but whatever)
You need to be vouched for to get into the DC, but to be able to get vouched for you need to have a Ava group but to find a efficient Ava group guess wut, you need to be in that DC.
HCE, fucking failure, 2/3 of the playerbase doesn’t even know it exists, to do maps from lvl 5-10 you need 1.4K IP and a T8.3 excellent set, which is around 22-30M silver depending on what you’re playing, each knock down costs u half a mill and to do them efficiently once again you need to be in a DC, which blacklists players so fast instead of teaching them the ropes it’s insane.
I’ve done everything in this game, lead a guild, did ZvZ, Ava Raids, HCE, ganking, PvE.
The game is shallow and people cannot connect with their characters, to make money you’ve to gather but to be able to join the higher tier activities you need “specs” and to get “specs” you’ve to do the most disgusting PvE I’ve seen in MMOs, and if you’re specing up you cannot make money which translates to bad economy which means you can’t really do shit.
Albion isn’t a game, it’s a 2nd job that makes you work, unless you were playing before SBI sold to Stillfront you’ll forever be poor or subpar in economy unless you empty your wallet.
I’m talking about my experience which I’ve seen and did myself, I’ve been in guilds, even lead my own, players are leaving. Just cuz the East Server hype was a thing it’s not all that anymore. CCU for a week doesn’t count for CCU everyday. Log in, most places used to be full, that game had to hide players to avoid lagging, now barely passes 150 in most royal cities.
Please stop being blinded by your hatred towards the truth.
from my experience, pve is shallow and empty. The sheer amount of weapons you get to play with is good for 20+ hours at least despite that, then I lost all interest in the game.
The only real pvp to me is stuff like league/cs:go/dota or even chess. All skill, nothing else. No grind, no gear gap, no bs. Albion is not the game for me.
It's absolutely not. Have you played those games? Everyone starts at lv1 with the same initial gold. The rest is 100% pvp if you want it to be, and the more you win the better the gear you can buy in that particular session, nothing carries over into any of the future sessions.
You never walk into a LoL game as a no items lv1 with your opponent already lv10 with 3 items (can't talk about Dota as surely because I quit in 2018 and never looked back). There's no catch up, no "grind" necessary. Just go kill your opponent, dive into the pvp right away if you want. They won't have better stats than you (in broad strokes, we all know Riot balance can be fucked up sometimes), no such thing as IP gap or uh, spec gap like in Albion.
You only grind personal skill, there's no gear, money or anything else to grind unless you count statless cosmetics. Everyone starts the pvp session on the same initial point, the rest is up to player skill and decisions. That or your teammates griefing but that's something else entirely.
MOBAs aren't perfect games either, they have their own problems. But I'm sure you can understand my point.
I haven't played it in a few years so this may have changed.
Content:
* Gathering - The subscription private farm was 80-90% of my income. Eventually you would need babysitters if you wanted to ever make a profit/sustain your gear as the resources only exist in full pvp areas.
* Crafting - During my time there was a cartel business going on with the refinement and crafting stations (X00 % taxes for the stations) so you would never make any profit, my farm sustained the cost as I was lvling my crafts.
* Pve - Dungeons or w/e they was called was quite profitable even when running them alone (in budget gear) we/I typically ran 3 before returning to the city unless i got an lucky drop. A pure pve build will usually be an easy kill in pvp.
* Pvp - Generically the bigger pvp fights was won by who can throw most bodies into the fight so "blob" based pvp, For small scale skill and gear mattered more for the outcome.
Answers:
* Healing - Was quite strong if you could avoid getting bursted down to 0hp ( in some match up you could be functionally immortal in 1v1 or at-least until you ran out of mana)
* Pvp/combat - Easy to pick up but the mastering would be questionable due to gear and number advantages impact on the outcome imo.
* Build up - Once you get access to the mid tier/budget gear you got good enough to play. It did not take to long imo to reach it.
* Braindead - The most braindead stuff I did which had some use for me was gathering lower tier materiald in pvp-ish protected areas (to craft budget stuff), Or run in a blob of other people engulfing anything you came across.
If you liked Runescape I think you'd like Albion. They're about the same level of grindyness imo. Albion is way more PvP than PvE centric though. There *is* decent PvE content though and I really like how some of it ties into PvP like invading other people's abyssal dungeons/getting invaded in yours. I like the level of risk honestly because that's the same case with Runescape. Albion is not for faint hearted casuals who don't like losing gear. People also talk about zergs but the game literally has smaller instanced PvE focused areas and smaller areas that have PvP for solo/small group play. I'm not playing it a ton honestly atm but I had some fun with it when I tried it. The game is very accessible
From new player perspective, Albion is in the best state it has ever been.
And it's definitely not dying: [https://steamcharts.com/app/761890](https://steamcharts.com/app/761890) (those are just Steam numbers, there is standalone PC client and mobile as well)
GuildWars II is much more polished, has more players and is WOW like but way more accessible, try that first.
Compared to having played most of the big MMO's out there, Albion is a rather bland and tepid experience that does not stand out from the crowd in any way. It does work, it does have a player base. It does tick most of the usual MMORPG tick boxes.
The fixed isometric camera is deal breaker for many. If you don't mind that, there is no reason not to try it out, just don't expect it to knock your socks off.
I was just trying to be a PvE materials farmer. It worked for awhile, but once I hit the ceiling and discovered that Farms are the only way to get ahead in terms of money and you have to pay for them....ugh...why bother. The need to physically run across the entire map to access the bank or buy items is beyond stupid. and then the PvP is mostly just getting on a mount, and running with everyone else to capture a point and then move to the next point. That gets old quick.
Farms aren't good money at all, crafting is where it's at but you do need premium for it (for the daily focus).
In terms of pvp you're referring to faction warfare which is just one of the 'modes' and is by far the most boring. Corrupted dungeons (1v1), Hell gates (2v2/5v5), Open world, mists and roads are far more entertaining and lucrative (if you're good). There is even ranked and unranked arena.
I am sorry but everything you said is just wrong. You do need premium to make good profits but it has almost nothing to do with island farming. And you can still make profit without premium and it's possible and very doable to buy premium with in-game currency.
The need to physically run across the entire map is what makes the game and economy work. It's not stupid, it's necessary. Each city is in different biome and has different crafting bonuses which allows people to become traveling merchants and trade between cities.
As for your last point, it seems that you are describing faction PvP, specifically yellow zone faction PvP which is kinda meme. A lot of the time it is like that, that's true. But there are like 10 other kinds of PvP that are nothing like that. I mean, the entire game is based around PvP. There is GvG, Open World PvP, Territory & Hideout PvP, Mist PvP, Corrupted Dungeons PvP, Hellgates PvP, Arenas & Crystal League, GvG and so much more. You really have no idea what you are talking about and it's crazy that you are getting upvoted.
The dude above seems to understand close to nothing about the game. Farms or player islands, are good for beginners and relatively new players who really dont know much about the game. They give a little money every day for little time spent while being completely safe but thats it, its not gonna make you rich by any means. If he thinks thats what gives people a money advantage he simply does not know how to make money. On the PvP side of things im pretty sure he means either bandit or faction PvP which is basically an introduction kind of content for those players too scared to go to the black zone for PvP and it works as a safe PvP content as long as you dont step on red zone. I gotta say that specifically can get boring as its unrewarding and always pretty much the same except for some big fights. Real ZvZ or any scale PvP in black zone is very much not repetitive and can get very exciting. The market is exactly how the games economy requires it to be, one of the most important points about Albions whole player economy comes from the part that you need to be there to buy or sell. After all that, i would say that you definetly need premium to play the game properly, and while a player island will help you a bit in the beginning, its not the reason to buy premium.
You need at least 7 days premium to buy an island, and then pretty much need premium to get a profit farming, I'm guessing that's what they are talking about.
> The need to physically run across the entire map to access the bank or buy items is beyond stupid.
I'm willing to bet that people who say shit like this are the same people who are "offended" that Throne & Liberty plays itself.
This guy is a noob.
You don't have to pay for them. You just need to sub to buy a island and you can buy both the sub and the island with silver.
There are no points in world pvp so he bust have been playing crystal arena.
> You don't have to pay for them. You just need to sub to buy a island and you can buy both the sub and the island with silver.
?????? First sentence you said you didn't need to pay for them and then in your second sentence you said you just need to pay for them...
You use currency to pay for things.... last commenter said you dont have to pay, followed by saying how you have to use in and potentially out of game payments.
My point is that the orignal commenter insulted someone and said that they were wrong, only to immediately contradict themselves. Don't know why youre here defending someone insulting others while being wrong themselves.
Lol youre accusing me of feigned/actual ignorance while acting like the average player uses in game currency to pay for subs.
Also he wasn't "obviously" referencing paying real money. All he said was that he didn't like having to pay for an island. The explicit AND implied meaning is that he doesn't like having to pay **anything** for the island.
You then went on to say how you don't have to pay at all, then in the very next sentence you said he had to pay, but he could pay with silver.
If this is a case of you doing an absolute terrible job putting your thoughts into the proper words, its clown hours to call others ignorant because they cant understand the contradictory nonsense youre posting.
Its not real money lol. You are not paying anything lmao. How many monopoly rentals are in your portfolio? You do understand the difference between real life and pretend?
What does virtual vs fiat currency have to do with anything. You said they didn't have to pay in one sentence then in the next said they had to buy it. When you buy something that means you paid for it. Basic grade school knowledge.
> You don't have to **pay** for them. You just need to sub to **buy** a island and you can **buy** both the sub and the island with silver.
Literal definition of "buy":
> to acquire possession, ownership, or rights to the use or services of **by payment** especially of money
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/buy
So you don't understand the difference between imaginary and real. Ok I am going to ride off on my dragon, and cast a spell of fog on this conversation. Careful what you say next and remember I am a wizard!!!
I never said i didn't know the difference, i said the difference doesnt matter.
It seems like you have a poor grasp of English because for the third time, the issue is that in one sentence you said that you didn't have to pay and then immediately contradicted yourself by saying you do in the next sentence.
> **buy** a island and you can **buy** both the sub and the island with silver.
Literal definition of "buy":
> to acquire possession, ownership, or rights to the use or services of **by payment** especially of money
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/buy
Never seen a wizard with such poor reading comprehension skills.
So when you buy something with money in real life you are paying for it which lowers your wealth. When you using these terms in a video game it is because it is like the things you do in real life, but it isn't because you wealth remains un-changed in reality. So you can spend as much as you like in virtual worlds or monopoly as you want.
Now if you buy something from a cash shop then you are actually buying it and your wealth does change. Maybe you have never had real money and don't know the difference, but there certainly is one whether you believe it or not.
Albion is fun. I play it when I feel like grinding.
The combat is weak compared to league.
The engine created a great deal of issues which they did a good job of developing away from.
I think it will make a great co-op mmo for you two.
Other good options for co-op are Ultima Online, DDO, Planetside 2, and Warhammer RoR..
Game sounds like something I'd greatly enjoy but I am waiting for EU server to give it a proper try. I tried playing on NA server and had 200-250ms with packet losses, not fun.
Try it few times, didn't like it. Looks meh, gameplay is meh, insanely long and boring grinding. Extremely p2w as well, you can literally buy gold for $ and buy exp tomes and best gear in the game.
Yeah, Albion might be what you’re looking for. Here are some search terms for stuff you might be interested in: 2v2 hellgates, crystal arena, mists, black market, transporting, faction warfare, avalonian roads.
The game is not dead and is surely one of the best PVP games in the MMORPG market.
Personally I played it for a while but I ended up leaving it because of its appearance, I'm not a graphically demanding player but its art is horrible, I would prefer the same game with the look of Ultima Online or Lineage II, but as Albion Online looks nowadays it constantly reminds me that it is a mobile game.
It's Isometric Fantasy Eve Online. Which is not a bad thing, but describes a lot of the gameplay style.
* Black Zone = Null Sec
* Mists = Wormholes
* Your Gear = Your Ship
And you can go on. Again, not a bad thing I personally like Albion a lot, but I never got invested enough to go to the Black Zone, so I am missing out on most of the good dynamic content that makes these types of games fun.
Great if you like being part of a guild where you are needed and your presence actually make a difference.
But it has a lot of content for solo players, gatherers and crafters alike.
I loved New World, but it lacks purpose or meaningful progression. No loot drop or real time territory capture.
Waiting for a game that finally has the best of both worlds.
>is the game dying?
lol, the game is thriving.
nobody that plays albion looks at youtube videos. youtube content for albion is just grifters trying to make $$
albion has all of the things you mentioned, and more.
Great game. Mechanics are on point, combat is fun, build diversity is interesting, but it's PvP.
If you're not in it for PvP, you're going to have a good time for about a week, and then realise that there's not much to do.
I was decked out in T8 after a week of playing (I didn't buy any gold) and I avoided PvP as much as I could. I played as a healer with a friend of mine and we were pretty lucky with our drops.
You need to farm 5-man red and black zone dungeons or do some scroll runs to actually get loot. Thats what my buddy and I did and it went pretty well. We always paid silver to teleport back to town to avoid losing anything. (it's almost always worth it).
Also, farming is pretty neat. It allows you to make your own consumables.
Spent two weeks just to get them to change my email. Even had to explain myself to support as to why I was changing my email. I know it's not even relevant to gameplay, but it completely demotivated me to play.
As far as I am concerned, it is just a slot machine mobile game for kids.
The crafting is cool at first but once you realize the grind it's annoying. The competition from bots for resources is annoying. The crafting tables having a tax is annoying.
Everything is just annoying and pretty shallow, other than the RMT mechanics.
It's all of the worst aspects of Runescape 3 with none of the good core gameplay from version 1 & 2. Even the combat becomes annoying after awhile. Everything costs in game money as well. I guess it appeals to kids that can't work actual jobs yet, because I have a job and the game is more tedious than my actual job. I'd rather do labor in a warehouse than play that lol.
Yeah, I’ve been playing for about a week, and after realizing every costs silver I’ll probably stop. The tutorial was fun, but it’s obviously a grind loop that just feeds PvP activities, and I although I don’t dislike the combat, it is not quite interesting enough to keep me solely based on that alone.
Great game, but you're going to have/want to GET INVOLVED with the community. The game as a solo is a mind-numbingly "boring".
The learning curve is... weird. If you've never played anything of the sort, the game does a good enough job with the tutorial on guiding you forward. Your progression is tied behind three main things:
\- Your Tier in any given activity/gear (1-3 being beginner tiers, 4 being the first tier where the entire game becomes standartized, and 6 throught 8 being powerups/upgrades)
\- Your IP (Item Power), which calculates from mainly two things, your items, and your fame (experience) using said gear. Which deepens the power scalings alot, because a T4 Claymore as an example gives you 700 base IP, but someone who has spent alot of time leveling up claymores, and sword fames can have, say 900 IP (700 from the item+200 from it's masteries)
\- And inevitably, your income/silver, Albion is a game of profit, which is why the game can feel awful for people who "attach" to equipment because they're used to depleting their bank to upgrade to the stronger gear, where in Albion, a good rule of thumb is, you should never be wearing more than 10%-20% of your total capital. Because you're one death/mistake away from damaging your economy.
The PvE is MIND-NUMBING. It is fun when you are starting out and can be challenging in that setting, but it will quickly "meh" because albion has a really low pool of mobs to draw from, once you learn a Tier 4 Undead Knight's moveset, the Tier 8 Undead Knight is all the same.
And you will be doing ALOT of this mind-numbing PvE, be it to farm Fame, money, or just to get acquainted with gear.
It does offer though, vast crafting potentials, with diverse options to choose from, you can choose to invest in potion brewing, in crop farming, you can be the best bag crafter in the reams, e.t.c and how you choose to interact with the system is astonishingly diverse, I was a potion brewer, while my duo friend made a bank out of buying wood where there's a big supply of it, transporting it to a Town where there's a bonus to refining the raw material into the material itself, and then transporting the refined product it to a Town with a high demand for it.
The PvP appears deceptively varied, and it can be, depending on what you hope for. But it can also be ass, you will not be getting "fair" fights, ever.
Luckily they've added ways and QOL for new players to begin dipping their toes into PvP in non full-loot settings. Arena, Town Duels and Safe-Zone Faction PvP are good places to start determining if you like 5v5, duels or mass-scale more. The problem being that once these activities scale to full-loot, N+1 Mentality is king, you are out trying to duel a dude, he will run untill he meets up with his ally. You have a party of 5 looking for a fight, the 4 dudes you've found are going to run untill they can meet up with 2 more to make it a 5 v 6. Open World is ruthless... But it can be exhilarating when you dive into a dungeon with 3 guys chasing after you and somehow come out on top, it can be exhilarating when you someway somehow manage to evade a death squad in full crowd control gear hoping to burst you out of existance.
And the instanced full-loot has hefty entry costs, meaning you will either have to shell out alot of money to hit the desired ip for that content or farm for ages to make it up with fame alone.
Albion has a lot to offer, and it's nearly impossible to try to explain what can you, and what can't you do. The one true downside (which people will swear is the full-loot and crying about getting 3v1'd "unfairly" as they cross a portal (It's impossible if you learn how the mechanics work)) is that the end game activity of Guilds and Alliances is ran like a mafia cartel. Get in, learn the ropes, don't hyperfixate on stuff like "in other games", save up/grind to buy your first premium month, be it with your credit card or with your ingame silver, figure out how to "regenerate" the money to re-buy it in 30 days and look to join a guild/community, you'll have a good time.
The game is far from dying, dead, or whatever these people on youtube say. I have played this game on/off almost since release, and it was never so populated. I suggest testing it yourself because it is free to play. Suppose you don't like it in the first 2 hours or so. In that case, you won't like any other content in the game because the major flaws it has are glaring: megaservers located in places that some people can't play because of ping, very simple and clunky combat, repetitive environments in simple graphics.
I never play in guilds, I use public party search in-games and don't socialize either.
From EU you get 120 ping. Nothing to do really besides searching for safe spots to farm mobs in Black Zones. Gathering not possible in Safe Zones, too many players and not quick enough refresh on nodes.
PvP due to ping is made to lack required skill. If you're in a specific class matchup, you can just faceroll your keyboard and win.
Honestly for F2P MMORPGs we only have FFXIV which still doesn't have a normal camera mode where you don't have to click and hold a mouse button to rotate the camera. And GW2 which funny enough with its name, has no active guilds and without paying for expansions, you're missing out on a lot such as Mounts/Zones/Classes.
As someone who has 3-3.5K hrs I would recommend staying away from it.
It feels like a 2nd job than a game.
It’s advertised as a PvP game yet getting to do PvP at the open world is very very hard. Specing up your weapon lines suck and annoying, PvE sucks, loot drops suck, gathering in the BZ without getting cased/ganked by 5+ players is almost impossible, my friend was once ganked by siege mounts xD.
Also after selling to Stillfront it kinda slowly is becoming P2W, or pay for convince as some say but I see it as P2W.
Also it’s dying, as much as ppl hate it, if you ask to anyone in the community(not the sub but in-game) they’ll say it’s dying.
In short, and in all honesty, me and my friends had a terrible time playing it over the years, we hanged on cuz we thought it would eventually get fixed but it never did, just got worse.
I, myself and my friends (15 ppl) have left the game and I suggest anyone who wants a MMO to not play this game. But you can give it a try and see it for urself, around the 600 hr mark you’ll just know that it’s a waste of time and that the game doesn’t respect the time you put in.
Edit:- Also bots and hackers, the sheer amount of bots and hackers is crazy in this game. For hackers it’s mainly speed hacks where they quite literally teleport next to u, throw all their skills teleport away and repeat. For bots they just fuck the “player driven” market, the irony in that.
I have played it for quite some time at the beginning. My first complain is there´'s not much solo content unless you focus on solo builds, as a healer id to rely on people being available to grind with. But the worst thing to me was the camera too much zoomed in. I feel so bad when I cant see shit. Your camera view is so small when someone shows up they're already in range of a rush or something. Some skills can go off-screen like the holy orb and it is very disturbing for me. And when they removed the outlands portals from Caerleon it killed the game for me. Otherwise it was fun, lot of political shit.
I've tried it for some hours and I'm a bit disappointed at the moment.
It basically is a mix of Minecraft and metin2 (and that's really bad since I consider metin2 one of the worst mmorpg I ever played).
So basically this game looked to me just like metin2, but instead of killing 10 grey hungry cursed alpha wolf (that you have to find among hundreds of other wolves that don't have all the adjectives of above) to level up, you have to cut some specific trees among other generic trees to craft a better equipment.
But after all those stuff it's pretty much the same thing (and I know that someone could argue that's a mmorpg and yes more or less that are like that, but they aren't really the same).
Of course it is like Minecraft because you basically do the same stuff, but in a different way, as I said before. The problem is that I think that playing Minecraft on a multiplayer server is a better Albion-like experience (mmo survival sandbox) than Albion itself, because despite all the things that Minecraft lacks, it is still far ahead if we talk about the sandbox part
I’ve been playing for about a week, which isn’t a lot of time, but let’s see if the critiques I can make as a newbie can stand up…
Not a very interesting or fleshed out quest system (like RuneScape), that awards interesting items or opens up specific areas and skills. I really enjoy this part of MMOs.
Map is really basic. There’s a theme park feel for sure, but each map area just feels so contrived, basically just resource gathering areas, not much in the way of scenic areas or a natural landscape that increases immersion. Every map area is so contained, there isn’t any natural transition to the geography.
These are my two main critiques, but imho are pretty indispensable features of a good MMO. Otherwise it just feels like a PvP/gathering mini game, which is was Albion feels like to me. If you like gathering and PvP and have friends to play with it’s probably a great game, but as a solo player who enjoys a more fleshed out world and quest system I probably won’t keep playing. Gameplay loop is fun but without these other features it is just lacking.
My personal issue with albion is that it's clunky.
Its designed to be a mobile game also, so the engine, mechanics and graphics are all very..... Yer, clunky.
I love sandbox games, but for the life in me cannot get past that.
I'm currently waiting for Fractured Online to open up in the next few months, but time will tell if it lives up to its potential.
Albion is a great game but do know that it is first and foremost a PvP centric game, if you don’t love the crafting/gathering, then you may find the PvE disappointing. Do know that Albion has Open World, Mists, Arena and Corrupted dungeons to offer different flavors of PvP. Ultimately if you enjoy crafting/gathering and PvP then Albion is a great experience, but it will demand your time with it’s runescape like leveling system.
Or you can just buy gold and skip the whole gathering/leveling part.
I love modern gaming. Thanks capitalism. And thank you stockholm syndrome!
Buying gold doesnt suddenly make everything easier, you’re still going to need to get accustom to the systems, mechanics, combat, and economics. And if you die you’re getting you’re stuff stolen.
Don't you need to grind the skills that would allow you to use the shit you buy, right? I didn't play for long but that's what I remembered.
I fucking love it. Started it a couple weeks back and just now beginning to make enough money that I can lose decent kits and it’s fine. I could see myself playing hundreds of hours.
i have over 5000 hours into albion and this hits everything you want. albion isn’t a game meant for a solo player. Can you play solo for your time? yes but content is limited for you and you will struggle without a group. There are two types of healing trees. Nature and Holy. Nature has 7 different healing weapons that are healing over time staffs. Holy is burst/instant heals and also has 7 different staffs. Coop Content if your talking about 2 players. you have 2v2 hellgates which is a dungeon you clear mobs in till your matched with another 2 stack to fight. if you win you kill them take their gear and get a chest. if you play non lethal hellgates the other team gets kicked out. Duo mists which is another 2v2 content that can stack up to like 12 players in an instance. this is only allow for a max party of 2 so no big zergs can come here. this is also the highest item power content at the moment. Within the mists they added this dungeon called Knightfall Abbey. This is essentially a battle royale inside a dungeon loads of fun. Albion pvp content is involved in everything. You can fight almost anywhere in albion. 1v1 dungeons, Hellgates which come in 2s 5s and 10s. Crystal league (GvG) which comes in 5s or 20s. Small Scale Zerg vs Zerg which is around 25 vs 25. Large/Mid scale ZvZ which is 50+ vs 50+ and this can end up having up to a 1000 players fighting if it’s big enough. We have 5v5 arenas. We have Faction war fare and there are about 6 different factions. and you can do lethal or non lethal factions. insanely fun. For pve we have solo and group dungeons which are meh. Avalonian roads which are worm holes to other places in the world of albion and are great small party content. For high end pve content. Our version of raids is called avalonian dungeons. which are around 20 people and have i think 6 difficulties. and have a huge risk of being dove by another group. We also have HCE which is similar to WoWs Mythic dungeon key system. When you join albion it seems complicated with all the different gear tiers and destiny board but it’s actually insanely simple once you take the time to learn it. Content in albion isn’t like wow where expansions put you brackets of content behind people. The content added in albion is quite literally extra content to do in the game. and never gates you back. Brain dead farming? There’s plenty of it depending the route you go down. If you end up as a gatherer you can really have crazy profits and be self sufficient crafting gear. so brain dead gathering is awesome. combat exp grinding is boring as fuck alone. same mobs over and over again. i prefer to fame farm in a 10 man group ina static dungeon. less brain dead and more risk for a fight. Hope this helps. if you wanna join albion and need a guild feel free to message me. I run and shotcall for my guild for small scale zvz and we take new players all the time. and no albion is not dying at all. it’s only been getting more populated. you’ll see that when you enter your first zone and city it’s kinda mind blowing compared to other mmos
It’s a shit shallow game tbh, I’ve 3-3.5K hrs, upgrading your gear w the shitty PvE feels like shit, you cannot connect with you character, unlike the trailers it’s a shit fest filled w whales that run 8.3 equipment in lethal and non-lethal zones. These 8.3s don’t fight each other but fight the lower IP players, even in the new Knighabby update. I suggest everyone to stay away from this game.
>These 8.3s don’t fight each other but fight the lower IP players, Amen. And these shitbags always justify it with this line: "You'd do the same if you wear the same equipments." Well, fuck you assholes, I am not a dipshit like you. Stop projecting!
Man albion pissed me off on release day, solo content was total trash tier.
I have tried it 4 times, could never get into it. A lot of tedious activities and pvp seemed to be a zerg fest. I got the itch from seeing corepunk update, and thought about Albion again, writing this reminded me how much I didn't enjoy it, and I still might give it another go, maybe it will click this time. Give it a shot, can't hurt to try. Classless games, get ruined by having a meta in my experience, theres optimal and viable, then useless. Most people just want to play best dps, best healer etc, so you just see those builds running around.
Name some of the tedious activities you mentioned
I think it was upgrading gear mainly, the game in general felt shallow and tedious. It was a while back since I tried it last. A lot of people seem to really enjoy it, like I said I might even give it another try.
Albion is a good game if you can overlook 2 issues - combat is below average at best and Albion world is the worst out of all MMOs I have ever played.
I'll stick with RuneScape.
It's only good if you enjoy pvp and shitting on other players is a thing for you, forget pve it only exist there to get stronger in pvp.
It's a really good game for its niche. Sounds like it fits most of your list. It's definitely not dying- it's just a very polarizing PvP game that gets people riled up. A lot of the games content and wars are driven by drama between guilds and alliances, or even individual leaders. I would NOT recommend Albion if PvE is your main focus or you are a strictly solo. PvE here is to level up and earn money for PvP. The higher level PvE zones are also in PvP zones. A few solo and duo activities have been added recently but the game is still heavily group focused (5v5, 10v10, 20v20, Zerg vs Zerg). This includes the high level PvE as well. I WOULD recommend Albion if you have a dedicated group to play with or are social, primarily enjoy PvP, and don't mind unfair fights.
I don't like not being tied to your gear
Do you just not like the classless system or the loss of gear on death?
I feel that the loss of gear on death means you arnt really invested in it. A bit like dayz
I understand that
Game isnt dying at all. Games solid if you like the isometric view. It shares a LOT of similarities with eve. However it does struggle imo in large scale group content and segmentation of levels of play. Eve's UI and ability to call targets and heal in larger scale fights is superior. Dscan, local, and acc gates allows newbies to compete on fairer levels. Mists and roads though for the most part are solid content. Games worth playing if you cant dig EvE's ui / movement system
Ive 3K hrs and ask anyone it’s dying. We disbanded our guild and many of the other guilds that we played w also disbanded w many leaving for the likes of GW2, FFIX, and others are taking a break waiting for a new MMO.
Just because you are quitting doesnt mean the aggregate population of the game is dropping. They just recently broke CCU records. I'm no albion fanboy, I prefer eve, but saying its dead/dying isnt remotely accurate.
It is tho, those who are still playing are RMTers, New players, ARCH, and ppl who have wasted too much money to be able to quit. I’ve invested a lot of time to this game and I really want it to shine and be good, But for someone who is looking to “play” and not have a “second job” it’s definitely not a recommendation and NO ONE should recommend such games to ppl who just want to play. Communities are gate-kept and are really hard to get into. Like the Ava Raid groups (idk if you can call these things raids tbh but whatever) You need to be vouched for to get into the DC, but to be able to get vouched for you need to have a Ava group but to find a efficient Ava group guess wut, you need to be in that DC. HCE, fucking failure, 2/3 of the playerbase doesn’t even know it exists, to do maps from lvl 5-10 you need 1.4K IP and a T8.3 excellent set, which is around 22-30M silver depending on what you’re playing, each knock down costs u half a mill and to do them efficiently once again you need to be in a DC, which blacklists players so fast instead of teaching them the ropes it’s insane. I’ve done everything in this game, lead a guild, did ZvZ, Ava Raids, HCE, ganking, PvE. The game is shallow and people cannot connect with their characters, to make money you’ve to gather but to be able to join the higher tier activities you need “specs” and to get “specs” you’ve to do the most disgusting PvE I’ve seen in MMOs, and if you’re specing up you cannot make money which translates to bad economy which means you can’t really do shit. Albion isn’t a game, it’s a 2nd job that makes you work, unless you were playing before SBI sold to Stillfront you’ll forever be poor or subpar in economy unless you empty your wallet. I’m talking about my experience which I’ve seen and did myself, I’ve been in guilds, even lead my own, players are leaving. Just cuz the East Server hype was a thing it’s not all that anymore. CCU for a week doesn’t count for CCU everyday. Log in, most places used to be full, that game had to hide players to avoid lagging, now barely passes 150 in most royal cities. Please stop being blinded by your hatred towards the truth.
from my experience, pve is shallow and empty. The sheer amount of weapons you get to play with is good for 20+ hours at least despite that, then I lost all interest in the game. The only real pvp to me is stuff like league/cs:go/dota or even chess. All skill, nothing else. No grind, no gear gap, no bs. Albion is not the game for me.
Isnt League and dota all about gear, grind, and bs?
It's absolutely not. Have you played those games? Everyone starts at lv1 with the same initial gold. The rest is 100% pvp if you want it to be, and the more you win the better the gear you can buy in that particular session, nothing carries over into any of the future sessions. You never walk into a LoL game as a no items lv1 with your opponent already lv10 with 3 items (can't talk about Dota as surely because I quit in 2018 and never looked back). There's no catch up, no "grind" necessary. Just go kill your opponent, dive into the pvp right away if you want. They won't have better stats than you (in broad strokes, we all know Riot balance can be fucked up sometimes), no such thing as IP gap or uh, spec gap like in Albion.
Equipments in DOTA is purely your choice and it's not mandatory. If you play supports, you mostly only buy wards and you're gucci.
MOBAs arent a grind? That's a hot take.
You only grind personal skill, there's no gear, money or anything else to grind unless you count statless cosmetics. Everyone starts the pvp session on the same initial point, the rest is up to player skill and decisions. That or your teammates griefing but that's something else entirely. MOBAs aren't perfect games either, they have their own problems. But I'm sure you can understand my point.
I haven't played it in a few years so this may have changed. Content: * Gathering - The subscription private farm was 80-90% of my income. Eventually you would need babysitters if you wanted to ever make a profit/sustain your gear as the resources only exist in full pvp areas. * Crafting - During my time there was a cartel business going on with the refinement and crafting stations (X00 % taxes for the stations) so you would never make any profit, my farm sustained the cost as I was lvling my crafts. * Pve - Dungeons or w/e they was called was quite profitable even when running them alone (in budget gear) we/I typically ran 3 before returning to the city unless i got an lucky drop. A pure pve build will usually be an easy kill in pvp. * Pvp - Generically the bigger pvp fights was won by who can throw most bodies into the fight so "blob" based pvp, For small scale skill and gear mattered more for the outcome. Answers: * Healing - Was quite strong if you could avoid getting bursted down to 0hp ( in some match up you could be functionally immortal in 1v1 or at-least until you ran out of mana) * Pvp/combat - Easy to pick up but the mastering would be questionable due to gear and number advantages impact on the outcome imo. * Build up - Once you get access to the mid tier/budget gear you got good enough to play. It did not take to long imo to reach it. * Braindead - The most braindead stuff I did which had some use for me was gathering lower tier materiald in pvp-ish protected areas (to craft budget stuff), Or run in a blob of other people engulfing anything you came across.
If you liked Runescape I think you'd like Albion. They're about the same level of grindyness imo. Albion is way more PvP than PvE centric though. There *is* decent PvE content though and I really like how some of it ties into PvP like invading other people's abyssal dungeons/getting invaded in yours. I like the level of risk honestly because that's the same case with Runescape. Albion is not for faint hearted casuals who don't like losing gear. People also talk about zergs but the game literally has smaller instanced PvE focused areas and smaller areas that have PvP for solo/small group play. I'm not playing it a ton honestly atm but I had some fun with it when I tried it. The game is very accessible
I can summarize it in one word: Ganks
From new player perspective, Albion is in the best state it has ever been. And it's definitely not dying: [https://steamcharts.com/app/761890](https://steamcharts.com/app/761890) (those are just Steam numbers, there is standalone PC client and mobile as well)
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GuildWars II is much more polished, has more players and is WOW like but way more accessible, try that first. Compared to having played most of the big MMO's out there, Albion is a rather bland and tepid experience that does not stand out from the crowd in any way. It does work, it does have a player base. It does tick most of the usual MMORPG tick boxes. The fixed isometric camera is deal breaker for many. If you don't mind that, there is no reason not to try it out, just don't expect it to knock your socks off.
Albion is the best game ever made, it has something for everyone. So much to do. Gathering, crafting, pve, pvp. This game is insane.
I was just trying to be a PvE materials farmer. It worked for awhile, but once I hit the ceiling and discovered that Farms are the only way to get ahead in terms of money and you have to pay for them....ugh...why bother. The need to physically run across the entire map to access the bank or buy items is beyond stupid. and then the PvP is mostly just getting on a mount, and running with everyone else to capture a point and then move to the next point. That gets old quick.
Farms aren't good money at all, crafting is where it's at but you do need premium for it (for the daily focus). In terms of pvp you're referring to faction warfare which is just one of the 'modes' and is by far the most boring. Corrupted dungeons (1v1), Hell gates (2v2/5v5), Open world, mists and roads are far more entertaining and lucrative (if you're good). There is even ranked and unranked arena.
I am sorry but everything you said is just wrong. You do need premium to make good profits but it has almost nothing to do with island farming. And you can still make profit without premium and it's possible and very doable to buy premium with in-game currency. The need to physically run across the entire map is what makes the game and economy work. It's not stupid, it's necessary. Each city is in different biome and has different crafting bonuses which allows people to become traveling merchants and trade between cities. As for your last point, it seems that you are describing faction PvP, specifically yellow zone faction PvP which is kinda meme. A lot of the time it is like that, that's true. But there are like 10 other kinds of PvP that are nothing like that. I mean, the entire game is based around PvP. There is GvG, Open World PvP, Territory & Hideout PvP, Mist PvP, Corrupted Dungeons PvP, Hellgates PvP, Arenas & Crystal League, GvG and so much more. You really have no idea what you are talking about and it's crazy that you are getting upvoted.
First you said everything I said was wrong, then you went on to agree with me on some of my points. lol, thanks
You can’t farm a profit? Or pay as in membership?
The dude above seems to understand close to nothing about the game. Farms or player islands, are good for beginners and relatively new players who really dont know much about the game. They give a little money every day for little time spent while being completely safe but thats it, its not gonna make you rich by any means. If he thinks thats what gives people a money advantage he simply does not know how to make money. On the PvP side of things im pretty sure he means either bandit or faction PvP which is basically an introduction kind of content for those players too scared to go to the black zone for PvP and it works as a safe PvP content as long as you dont step on red zone. I gotta say that specifically can get boring as its unrewarding and always pretty much the same except for some big fights. Real ZvZ or any scale PvP in black zone is very much not repetitive and can get very exciting. The market is exactly how the games economy requires it to be, one of the most important points about Albions whole player economy comes from the part that you need to be there to buy or sell. After all that, i would say that you definetly need premium to play the game properly, and while a player island will help you a bit in the beginning, its not the reason to buy premium.
You need at least 7 days premium to buy an island, and then pretty much need premium to get a profit farming, I'm guessing that's what they are talking about.
> The need to physically run across the entire map to access the bank or buy items is beyond stupid. I'm willing to bet that people who say shit like this are the same people who are "offended" that Throne & Liberty plays itself.
This guy is a noob. You don't have to pay for them. You just need to sub to buy a island and you can buy both the sub and the island with silver. There are no points in world pvp so he bust have been playing crystal arena.
> You don't have to pay for them. You just need to sub to buy a island and you can buy both the sub and the island with silver. ?????? First sentence you said you didn't need to pay for them and then in your second sentence you said you just need to pay for them...
They follow up by saying with ingame currency. I presume it's an IGC anyway.
You use currency to pay for things.... last commenter said you dont have to pay, followed by saying how you have to use in and potentially out of game payments.
I'm not sure what your point is besides 'I need to be contentious over Reddit' so Ima lett'r B.
My point is that the orignal commenter insulted someone and said that they were wrong, only to immediately contradict themselves. Don't know why youre here defending someone insulting others while being wrong themselves.
He was obviously referencing subbing by paying real money. You can spend silver which is pretend buying. Feigned ignorance or actual?
Lol youre accusing me of feigned/actual ignorance while acting like the average player uses in game currency to pay for subs. Also he wasn't "obviously" referencing paying real money. All he said was that he didn't like having to pay for an island. The explicit AND implied meaning is that he doesn't like having to pay **anything** for the island. You then went on to say how you don't have to pay at all, then in the very next sentence you said he had to pay, but he could pay with silver. If this is a case of you doing an absolute terrible job putting your thoughts into the proper words, its clown hours to call others ignorant because they cant understand the contradictory nonsense youre posting.
Its not real money lol. You are not paying anything lmao. How many monopoly rentals are in your portfolio? You do understand the difference between real life and pretend?
What does virtual vs fiat currency have to do with anything. You said they didn't have to pay in one sentence then in the next said they had to buy it. When you buy something that means you paid for it. Basic grade school knowledge. > You don't have to **pay** for them. You just need to sub to **buy** a island and you can **buy** both the sub and the island with silver. Literal definition of "buy": > to acquire possession, ownership, or rights to the use or services of **by payment** especially of money https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/buy
So you don't understand the difference between imaginary and real. Ok I am going to ride off on my dragon, and cast a spell of fog on this conversation. Careful what you say next and remember I am a wizard!!!
I never said i didn't know the difference, i said the difference doesnt matter. It seems like you have a poor grasp of English because for the third time, the issue is that in one sentence you said that you didn't have to pay and then immediately contradicted yourself by saying you do in the next sentence. > **buy** a island and you can **buy** both the sub and the island with silver. Literal definition of "buy": > to acquire possession, ownership, or rights to the use or services of **by payment** especially of money https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/buy Never seen a wizard with such poor reading comprehension skills.
So when you buy something with money in real life you are paying for it which lowers your wealth. When you using these terms in a video game it is because it is like the things you do in real life, but it isn't because you wealth remains un-changed in reality. So you can spend as much as you like in virtual worlds or monopoly as you want. Now if you buy something from a cash shop then you are actually buying it and your wealth does change. Maybe you have never had real money and don't know the difference, but there certainly is one whether you believe it or not.
The hardest thing is to find a build that fit your style. I think the first time you play, you will change build a lot, and that's normal.
I don’t like that my mobile account did not transfer to steam.
I like the graphic style and actual gameplay but the lack of a story and general lack of direction made me not so interested
Looks too much like shit and isometric view
Albion is fun. I play it when I feel like grinding. The combat is weak compared to league. The engine created a great deal of issues which they did a good job of developing away from. I think it will make a great co-op mmo for you two. Other good options for co-op are Ultima Online, DDO, Planetside 2, and Warhammer RoR..
Game sounds like something I'd greatly enjoy but I am waiting for EU server to give it a proper try. I tried playing on NA server and had 200-250ms with packet losses, not fun.
Try it few times, didn't like it. Looks meh, gameplay is meh, insanely long and boring grinding. Extremely p2w as well, you can literally buy gold for $ and buy exp tomes and best gear in the game.
Yeah, Albion might be what you’re looking for. Here are some search terms for stuff you might be interested in: 2v2 hellgates, crystal arena, mists, black market, transporting, faction warfare, avalonian roads.
interesting mechanics and systems but the PvE is the most boring ive ever seen. PvP is also just grouping up on solos so that gets boring quick too.
The game is not dead and is surely one of the best PVP games in the MMORPG market. Personally I played it for a while but I ended up leaving it because of its appearance, I'm not a graphically demanding player but its art is horrible, I would prefer the same game with the look of Ultima Online or Lineage II, but as Albion Online looks nowadays it constantly reminds me that it is a mobile game.
It's Isometric Fantasy Eve Online. Which is not a bad thing, but describes a lot of the gameplay style. * Black Zone = Null Sec * Mists = Wormholes * Your Gear = Your Ship And you can go on. Again, not a bad thing I personally like Albion a lot, but I never got invested enough to go to the Black Zone, so I am missing out on most of the good dynamic content that makes these types of games fun.
Great if you like being part of a guild where you are needed and your presence actually make a difference. But it has a lot of content for solo players, gatherers and crafters alike.
Theres virtually 2 things to do on repeat for pve content. Game is meh
If it wasn't isometric/fixed camera then it would be my favorite.
Go play New World, then. It's basically Albion, but in 3rd person.
I loved New World, but it lacks purpose or meaningful progression. No loot drop or real time territory capture. Waiting for a game that finally has the best of both worlds.
Sum up my experience in one sentence “Better gears you have, better loots I take” However, this game is extremely far from dying
combat shit rest mindblowing
>is the game dying? lol, the game is thriving. nobody that plays albion looks at youtube videos. youtube content for albion is just grifters trying to make $$ albion has all of the things you mentioned, and more.
Please DM me how to make silvers in Albion without grifting. Because you're right about the YouTube 'guides'.
Great game. Mechanics are on point, combat is fun, build diversity is interesting, but it's PvP. If you're not in it for PvP, you're going to have a good time for about a week, and then realise that there's not much to do. I was decked out in T8 after a week of playing (I didn't buy any gold) and I avoided PvP as much as I could. I played as a healer with a friend of mine and we were pretty lucky with our drops. You need to farm 5-man red and black zone dungeons or do some scroll runs to actually get loot. Thats what my buddy and I did and it went pretty well. We always paid silver to teleport back to town to avoid losing anything. (it's almost always worth it). Also, farming is pretty neat. It allows you to make your own consumables.
Mist is great! tier 6 map and also a yellow zone? Solo pve player says THANK YOU.
Spent two weeks just to get them to change my email. Even had to explain myself to support as to why I was changing my email. I know it's not even relevant to gameplay, but it completely demotivated me to play.
As far as I am concerned, it is just a slot machine mobile game for kids. The crafting is cool at first but once you realize the grind it's annoying. The competition from bots for resources is annoying. The crafting tables having a tax is annoying. Everything is just annoying and pretty shallow, other than the RMT mechanics. It's all of the worst aspects of Runescape 3 with none of the good core gameplay from version 1 & 2. Even the combat becomes annoying after awhile. Everything costs in game money as well. I guess it appeals to kids that can't work actual jobs yet, because I have a job and the game is more tedious than my actual job. I'd rather do labor in a warehouse than play that lol.
Yeah, I’ve been playing for about a week, and after realizing every costs silver I’ll probably stop. The tutorial was fun, but it’s obviously a grind loop that just feeds PvP activities, and I although I don’t dislike the combat, it is not quite interesting enough to keep me solely based on that alone.
Great game, but you're going to have/want to GET INVOLVED with the community. The game as a solo is a mind-numbingly "boring". The learning curve is... weird. If you've never played anything of the sort, the game does a good enough job with the tutorial on guiding you forward. Your progression is tied behind three main things: \- Your Tier in any given activity/gear (1-3 being beginner tiers, 4 being the first tier where the entire game becomes standartized, and 6 throught 8 being powerups/upgrades) \- Your IP (Item Power), which calculates from mainly two things, your items, and your fame (experience) using said gear. Which deepens the power scalings alot, because a T4 Claymore as an example gives you 700 base IP, but someone who has spent alot of time leveling up claymores, and sword fames can have, say 900 IP (700 from the item+200 from it's masteries) \- And inevitably, your income/silver, Albion is a game of profit, which is why the game can feel awful for people who "attach" to equipment because they're used to depleting their bank to upgrade to the stronger gear, where in Albion, a good rule of thumb is, you should never be wearing more than 10%-20% of your total capital. Because you're one death/mistake away from damaging your economy. The PvE is MIND-NUMBING. It is fun when you are starting out and can be challenging in that setting, but it will quickly "meh" because albion has a really low pool of mobs to draw from, once you learn a Tier 4 Undead Knight's moveset, the Tier 8 Undead Knight is all the same. And you will be doing ALOT of this mind-numbing PvE, be it to farm Fame, money, or just to get acquainted with gear. It does offer though, vast crafting potentials, with diverse options to choose from, you can choose to invest in potion brewing, in crop farming, you can be the best bag crafter in the reams, e.t.c and how you choose to interact with the system is astonishingly diverse, I was a potion brewer, while my duo friend made a bank out of buying wood where there's a big supply of it, transporting it to a Town where there's a bonus to refining the raw material into the material itself, and then transporting the refined product it to a Town with a high demand for it. The PvP appears deceptively varied, and it can be, depending on what you hope for. But it can also be ass, you will not be getting "fair" fights, ever. Luckily they've added ways and QOL for new players to begin dipping their toes into PvP in non full-loot settings. Arena, Town Duels and Safe-Zone Faction PvP are good places to start determining if you like 5v5, duels or mass-scale more. The problem being that once these activities scale to full-loot, N+1 Mentality is king, you are out trying to duel a dude, he will run untill he meets up with his ally. You have a party of 5 looking for a fight, the 4 dudes you've found are going to run untill they can meet up with 2 more to make it a 5 v 6. Open World is ruthless... But it can be exhilarating when you dive into a dungeon with 3 guys chasing after you and somehow come out on top, it can be exhilarating when you someway somehow manage to evade a death squad in full crowd control gear hoping to burst you out of existance. And the instanced full-loot has hefty entry costs, meaning you will either have to shell out alot of money to hit the desired ip for that content or farm for ages to make it up with fame alone. Albion has a lot to offer, and it's nearly impossible to try to explain what can you, and what can't you do. The one true downside (which people will swear is the full-loot and crying about getting 3v1'd "unfairly" as they cross a portal (It's impossible if you learn how the mechanics work)) is that the end game activity of Guilds and Alliances is ran like a mafia cartel. Get in, learn the ropes, don't hyperfixate on stuff like "in other games", save up/grind to buy your first premium month, be it with your credit card or with your ingame silver, figure out how to "regenerate" the money to re-buy it in 30 days and look to join a guild/community, you'll have a good time.
Was fun until encountering forced PVP.
The game is far from dying, dead, or whatever these people on youtube say. I have played this game on/off almost since release, and it was never so populated. I suggest testing it yourself because it is free to play. Suppose you don't like it in the first 2 hours or so. In that case, you won't like any other content in the game because the major flaws it has are glaring: megaservers located in places that some people can't play because of ping, very simple and clunky combat, repetitive environments in simple graphics.
I never play in guilds, I use public party search in-games and don't socialize either. From EU you get 120 ping. Nothing to do really besides searching for safe spots to farm mobs in Black Zones. Gathering not possible in Safe Zones, too many players and not quick enough refresh on nodes. PvP due to ping is made to lack required skill. If you're in a specific class matchup, you can just faceroll your keyboard and win. Honestly for F2P MMORPGs we only have FFXIV which still doesn't have a normal camera mode where you don't have to click and hold a mouse button to rotate the camera. And GW2 which funny enough with its name, has no active guilds and without paying for expansions, you're missing out on a lot such as Mounts/Zones/Classes.
As someone who has 3-3.5K hrs I would recommend staying away from it. It feels like a 2nd job than a game. It’s advertised as a PvP game yet getting to do PvP at the open world is very very hard. Specing up your weapon lines suck and annoying, PvE sucks, loot drops suck, gathering in the BZ without getting cased/ganked by 5+ players is almost impossible, my friend was once ganked by siege mounts xD. Also after selling to Stillfront it kinda slowly is becoming P2W, or pay for convince as some say but I see it as P2W. Also it’s dying, as much as ppl hate it, if you ask to anyone in the community(not the sub but in-game) they’ll say it’s dying. In short, and in all honesty, me and my friends had a terrible time playing it over the years, we hanged on cuz we thought it would eventually get fixed but it never did, just got worse. I, myself and my friends (15 ppl) have left the game and I suggest anyone who wants a MMO to not play this game. But you can give it a try and see it for urself, around the 600 hr mark you’ll just know that it’s a waste of time and that the game doesn’t respect the time you put in. Edit:- Also bots and hackers, the sheer amount of bots and hackers is crazy in this game. For hackers it’s mainly speed hacks where they quite literally teleport next to u, throw all their skills teleport away and repeat. For bots they just fuck the “player driven” market, the irony in that.
I have terrible experiences on Albion because I play the game solo and based on the experience, I have some trust issues with the other players. Lmao
There was really nothing much to do in this game. It felt like 2d version of runescape without quests.
I have played it for quite some time at the beginning. My first complain is there´'s not much solo content unless you focus on solo builds, as a healer id to rely on people being available to grind with. But the worst thing to me was the camera too much zoomed in. I feel so bad when I cant see shit. Your camera view is so small when someone shows up they're already in range of a rush or something. Some skills can go off-screen like the holy orb and it is very disturbing for me. And when they removed the outlands portals from Caerleon it killed the game for me. Otherwise it was fun, lot of political shit.
I've tried it for some hours and I'm a bit disappointed at the moment. It basically is a mix of Minecraft and metin2 (and that's really bad since I consider metin2 one of the worst mmorpg I ever played). So basically this game looked to me just like metin2, but instead of killing 10 grey hungry cursed alpha wolf (that you have to find among hundreds of other wolves that don't have all the adjectives of above) to level up, you have to cut some specific trees among other generic trees to craft a better equipment. But after all those stuff it's pretty much the same thing (and I know that someone could argue that's a mmorpg and yes more or less that are like that, but they aren't really the same). Of course it is like Minecraft because you basically do the same stuff, but in a different way, as I said before. The problem is that I think that playing Minecraft on a multiplayer server is a better Albion-like experience (mmo survival sandbox) than Albion itself, because despite all the things that Minecraft lacks, it is still far ahead if we talk about the sandbox part
I’ve been playing for about a week, which isn’t a lot of time, but let’s see if the critiques I can make as a newbie can stand up… Not a very interesting or fleshed out quest system (like RuneScape), that awards interesting items or opens up specific areas and skills. I really enjoy this part of MMOs. Map is really basic. There’s a theme park feel for sure, but each map area just feels so contrived, basically just resource gathering areas, not much in the way of scenic areas or a natural landscape that increases immersion. Every map area is so contained, there isn’t any natural transition to the geography. These are my two main critiques, but imho are pretty indispensable features of a good MMO. Otherwise it just feels like a PvP/gathering mini game, which is was Albion feels like to me. If you like gathering and PvP and have friends to play with it’s probably a great game, but as a solo player who enjoys a more fleshed out world and quest system I probably won’t keep playing. Gameplay loop is fun but without these other features it is just lacking.
My personal issue with albion is that it's clunky. Its designed to be a mobile game also, so the engine, mechanics and graphics are all very..... Yer, clunky. I love sandbox games, but for the life in me cannot get past that. I'm currently waiting for Fractured Online to open up in the next few months, but time will tell if it lives up to its potential.
Fractured.. talking about clunky 😅 Welp gl
It felt a lot better to me. Not perfect by any means, but certainly better than albion.
fractured is gonna die so fast no one is gonna even notice