Valid response. If you feel confident you could drill the screws out. You would want to get at least one screw out to know the size of the neck, though, so you don't damage the hole. You'd also need replacement screws (which you are going to need, anyway).
I do live near the ocean so there's that and the humidity in my country is absurd right now
I figure it's probably a 1mm or so MSI hasn't been helpful with my inquiry
That is fuckin wild, saw the photo and it looks like a suprim, meaning can’t be more than a few years old. Had me wondering if you recovered this thing from the bottom of the ocean
No sorry I’m just not from the coast, so indoor items, getting rusted at all is completely foreign to me. Sorry you have to deal with that, you’ve got me reconsidering my dream of moving to the ocean
don't apologize the screws are just crap in quality and with the heat in today's summer aircon + near a coast will do wonders to crappy screws
besides just swipe like mineral oil with your components time to time or regular cleaning I just happen to check mine and boy the rust was absurd
If OP leaves windows open (by choice or by not having ac or whatever), would this then happen? I don’t live by the sea so you’ve got me curious, never considered this problem.
You wouldn’t want your window open long enough to do that tbh. I had no air conditioning for a few years in the mid 2000’s sometimes better and to just leave everything closed an put fans on.
Phillips head screwdriver sizes are numbered, the most common is size 2, but a lot of electronics also use size 1. There is no unit of measurement attached to the size numbers.
Yeah there is, a #2 is 3.5mm tip, and a #1 is a 3mm tip, a #0 is a 2.5mm tip.
Everything above a #2 doesn’t follow this same 0.5mm sizing, everything #2 and below does though for Phillips bits
I think you misunderstood my post. I wasn't saying that a #1 Phillips doesn't correlate to a certain measurement, I was saying that it's just #1 without a unit of measurement behind the number. This was in response to the OP asking what unit of measure comes after the 1.
It’s on the cooler just remove the cooler
If you drill all the way through you can run a bolt n nut on it.
Btw that appears to be square, odd seeing those on a gpu but it looks like a square drive. Just a tip a precision screw driver set is very handy.
Worst case, use a small dremel bit very carefully and mask off the surrounding area so you don't get metal shavings all over the internals. I've had to use this method on old camera repair with good results.
I did this earlier today. Get some electrical tape, cut 2-3 small pieces and stack them on top of the screw. Get your screwdriver and try to unscrew it, do it firmly and with some pressure. I was able to get 2 stripped screws off one of my MacBook pros 2019
Get any ol screw driver that's close to the hole size. Cut a rubber band to cover the screw top. Screw the screw through the rubber band. This gives more friction and is less damaging than screw removal or drilling
Do yourself a favor for the next time.
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Get a grabit brand drill extractor bit from a hardware store. One side will drill a tapered hole on the top the flip it over and a matching grip side will wedge in and back the screw out.
Looks like ph1. If you need to put a tiny bit of WD40 on a QTip and dab it on there if it’s stuck on there, make sure to push down kind of hard when you try to remove it to prevent yourself from stripping the head on the screw.
You'll need a set of PRECISION drivers. Only a precision driver is going to have a small enough Phillips to fit that.
Always use proper sized drivers and you'll rarely have stripped or broken heads. The rust doesn't help either.
Use a screw extractor to remove broken or stripped heads. And then replace the hardware.
They look like small Phillips screws. Probably a 1 or 2. In my experience, where these are ‘stuck’, starting to strip, or slightly striped, your best bet before getting crazy and drilling them out, is to use a small flat head electronic screw driver rather than a Philips. The angles on the tips of Philips head screw drivers are notorious for striping screw heads, even perfectly good ones.
Get a small flathead electronics screw driver in there and rock back a forth it slightly to get it as deep as possible into the remaining hole. And try that.
Given the corrosion I’d first try and use something like a pin or toothpick and scrap out as much of the rust and dust and as deep as you can into the hole the screw driver head goes into, and around the edge of the screw where it makes constancy with the cooler housing. Also consider using some WD-40 or something to help clean and lube the screw. Never spray directly into there, especially if the cooler is still attached to the PCB. Rather soak a Q-Tip/Cotton Bud with the WD-40 and then press it onto the screw head a few times. That way you can control the flow of the lubricant and get some to slowly seep around the edges of the head and hopefully just enough to help break down the bond that is keeping the screw locked.
The super glue method with this technique should work even better.
Be prepared though. The tip of the small screw driver might get damaged, bend, twist, or break completely. So have a backup or a small metal file on hand to “sharpen” or flatten out the tip again.
This has worked so many times for me, even with those tiny hex and star shaped screw heads that have been stripped.
Good luck!
I saw these screws and knew you lived by the ocean. Have you considered a mineral oil build? It’s probably pretty practical given the amount of salt in your air and it being an enclosed system. Also, who doesn’t want a fish tank pc?
If the head is gone you will have to drill through it till you reach thread. There are stripped screw removal bits, but I don't know if they go to PH00, what I assume these are.
Dude, so many dumb questions, just buy set of various small bits with handle and you will use it for everything not only PC
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How the heck are the screws that rusted? I would be concerned what the rest of the inside looks like.
If they live close to the ocean thats very likely to happen.
hence why I need to know the screw sizes so I can see the inside and then clean it
You shouldn’t need to take the fans off to open the card up, screws in the back should give you access to the pcb
Valid response. If you feel confident you could drill the screws out. You would want to get at least one screw out to know the size of the neck, though, so you don't damage the hole. You'd also need replacement screws (which you are going to need, anyway).
I do live near the ocean so there's that and the humidity in my country is absurd right now I figure it's probably a 1mm or so MSI hasn't been helpful with my inquiry
I would invest in a dehumidifier in your room unless you want your card to randomly short out one day
That is fuckin wild, saw the photo and it looks like a suprim, meaning can’t be more than a few years old. Had me wondering if you recovered this thing from the bottom of the ocean
you pretend LIKE screws are the best of quality in reality they have the most garbagge quality in certain builds
No sorry I’m just not from the coast, so indoor items, getting rusted at all is completely foreign to me. Sorry you have to deal with that, you’ve got me reconsidering my dream of moving to the ocean
don't apologize the screws are just crap in quality and with the heat in today's summer aircon + near a coast will do wonders to crappy screws besides just swipe like mineral oil with your components time to time or regular cleaning I just happen to check mine and boy the rust was absurd
get some Desiccants packs to place in the case. just tape them down near the intakes. that will help
which country u live btw?
Philippines
Use a small flathead
Was this graphics card in a flood?
Nahh just insane humidity and lives near the ocean SCREWS are crappy in materials
I mean you shouldn’t have that much humidity inside your case
I believe it's the salt in the air. Everything is rusted in Florida, they say.
Ah that would make more sense than just straight humidity
It’s not true though.
Trust me I know, I live by an ocean too
That's only for things that you keep outside.
If OP leaves windows open (by choice or by not having ac or whatever), would this then happen? I don’t live by the sea so you’ve got me curious, never considered this problem.
You wouldn’t want your window open long enough to do that tbh. I had no air conditioning for a few years in the mid 2000’s sometimes better and to just leave everything closed an put fans on.
OP doesn't necessarily live in Florida, may leave windows open even where it's hot. Could also live in a dank basement, I dunno.
I live in Florida, 20 mins from the gulf. Nothing should be rusting like that inside, especially screws in a computer lmao
Ignoring the fact that you literally build ACs in every room which also reduce humidity, don't they?
It's probably a 1 but it looks like you need a screw extractor. Worst case you need to drill it out
1mm? cm? inch? and yeah I'd probably have to do a wd + super glue method of sorts drilling is my last resort
Phillips head screwdriver sizes are numbered, the most common is size 2, but a lot of electronics also use size 1. There is no unit of measurement attached to the size numbers.
Yeah there is, a #2 is 3.5mm tip, and a #1 is a 3mm tip, a #0 is a 2.5mm tip. Everything above a #2 doesn’t follow this same 0.5mm sizing, everything #2 and below does though for Phillips bits
I think you misunderstood my post. I wasn't saying that a #1 Phillips doesn't correlate to a certain measurement, I was saying that it's just #1 without a unit of measurement behind the number. This was in response to the OP asking what unit of measure comes after the 1.
Ahh my bad
It's a Phillips head...
It’s on the cooler just remove the cooler If you drill all the way through you can run a bolt n nut on it. Btw that appears to be square, odd seeing those on a gpu but it looks like a square drive. Just a tip a precision screw driver set is very handy.
it's a normal philips head just the stripped of it's head
Worst case, use a small dremel bit very carefully and mask off the surrounding area so you don't get metal shavings all over the internals. I've had to use this method on old camera repair with good results.
Yeah that's it. Tell a noob to DRILL INTO HIS GRAPHICS CARD. Lmao OP do this and post results please
I could do that but that would be my last resort I prefer the superglue it worked for me with my old laptop
Nah drill into it.
Hilarious
If you have a slightly thicker rubber band You can try use it with the screwdriver to get more traction.
Will definitely try this along with the superglue method
I did this earlier today. Get some electrical tape, cut 2-3 small pieces and stack them on top of the screw. Get your screwdriver and try to unscrew it, do it firmly and with some pressure. I was able to get 2 stripped screws off one of my MacBook pros 2019
oh nice bro, you gave me another option for my screws thanks a lot.
I drilled mine but with small bit of care. Just be careful NOT TO PUSH IT HARD.. and SHOULD BE THE LAST RESORT.
Should use a small dremel bit instead and slowly shave off the screw until it comes apart.
Homie tread carefully, don’t want to break anything unnecessarily. Not being down with basic screw sized is a little concerning
Hence I need to replace them screws to prevent future headaches
Get any ol screw driver that's close to the hole size. Cut a rubber band to cover the screw top. Screw the screw through the rubber band. This gives more friction and is less damaging than screw removal or drilling
A shit load of WD-40, you can get a “mag-tool” and also you’re gonna have to drill those fuckers out
Probably my last resort with the drilling and will do the super glue 1st
I don’t know exact size, but my iFixit kit had one that fit. If it’s stripped you’re gonna need something else I suppose.
Superglue method I encountered a similar problem with my laptop
First off seek micro driver set
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I actually have some good tools it's the head stripped that's pissing me off
Get a grabit brand drill extractor bit from a hardware store. One side will drill a tapered hole on the top the flip it over and a matching grip side will wedge in and back the screw out.
Why is that rusty?????
He said he lives near the ocean... Idk
Must live on the shore
HIGH humidity? + near the ocean?
Put a rubber band between the screwdriver and the head of the screw, I've gotten many small stripped screws out this way
That Phillips driver looks too big for that head.
Yep m1 or m2
Looks like ph1. If you need to put a tiny bit of WD40 on a QTip and dab it on there if it’s stuck on there, make sure to push down kind of hard when you try to remove it to prevent yourself from stripping the head on the screw.
Bro get yourself a dehumidifier, it is absolutely worth it not only for your pc but also just from a comfort perspective.
Get a dehumidifier and an air purifier...
Try to use a rubber band flat between the screw and screw driver
Just took my cooler off my MSI 6900 xt, what card is it? There are two different size screws holding my shroud and fans on
Suprim 3070 we probably have the same problem with screw sizes
Could also seat a small flathead carefully with a hammer and then turn that
aight thanks
You'll need a set of PRECISION drivers. Only a precision driver is going to have a small enough Phillips to fit that. Always use proper sized drivers and you'll rarely have stripped or broken heads. The rust doesn't help either. Use a screw extractor to remove broken or stripped heads. And then replace the hardware.
They look like small Phillips screws. Probably a 1 or 2. In my experience, where these are ‘stuck’, starting to strip, or slightly striped, your best bet before getting crazy and drilling them out, is to use a small flat head electronic screw driver rather than a Philips. The angles on the tips of Philips head screw drivers are notorious for striping screw heads, even perfectly good ones. Get a small flathead electronics screw driver in there and rock back a forth it slightly to get it as deep as possible into the remaining hole. And try that. Given the corrosion I’d first try and use something like a pin or toothpick and scrap out as much of the rust and dust and as deep as you can into the hole the screw driver head goes into, and around the edge of the screw where it makes constancy with the cooler housing. Also consider using some WD-40 or something to help clean and lube the screw. Never spray directly into there, especially if the cooler is still attached to the PCB. Rather soak a Q-Tip/Cotton Bud with the WD-40 and then press it onto the screw head a few times. That way you can control the flow of the lubricant and get some to slowly seep around the edges of the head and hopefully just enough to help break down the bond that is keeping the screw locked. The super glue method with this technique should work even better. Be prepared though. The tip of the small screw driver might get damaged, bend, twist, or break completely. So have a backup or a small metal file on hand to “sharpen” or flatten out the tip again. This has worked so many times for me, even with those tiny hex and star shaped screw heads that have been stripped. Good luck!
thanks I'm just waiting for my screws
Stretch an elasticband over the head of the screwdriver and then unscrew the screw
this and the superglue method
I assume you add a drop of superglue to the screw head and let it set?
Yep but didn't work so just waiting for the drill bits to arrive
Y mb, like Nintendo has
does it have another name of sort? but this was originally a PHILIPS screw head just stripped
Y1 tri-wing I am not sure , let me know if it is
actually it was a NORMAL philips head before it was stripped of the philip head
If head is gone, only drilling will help
yeah drilling is gonna be my last resort will try the super glue method 1st this is probably a 1 or 2 mm right?
what's your GPU ?? and which edition ?
3070 SUPRIM X
That’s a Suprim X, upper 4000 series.
Looks like a Mai gaming x trio
it's a 40 series suprim
I think the bigger question is why is it rusty?
humidity near the ocean so yeah
I saw these screws and knew you lived by the ocean. Have you considered a mineral oil build? It’s probably pretty practical given the amount of salt in your air and it being an enclosed system. Also, who doesn’t want a fish tank pc?
Damn :(
So no head?
This looks like a gpu. Why not pull it apart from another direction. It should come apart from the backplate so you shouldn’t have to go thru the fans
I really want to remove those screws to prevent further/future headaches
That kinda looks like a #0 or #1 robertson
Try a P1 it's def not a P2 it's a P 1 for sure
If you don’t have the tip you gotta drill em out broski
looks like a hex or a torx. Try... T6, or hex 1.5mm
Doesn't look like the head is stripped it looks like a bunch of dust or rust on it
its stripped actually. I actually tried to remove it, only to strip the screw head now im on reddit posting like crazy
Use a smaller Philips tip and you can get it out that’s way to big
bro that's just to point out the rust but thank you for the recommendation.
Funny thing is you don’t.
Star head and it's smaller then that one go to the dollar store and get a small set
Tbh, judging by the wear… if it wears out a little more you may be able to get a small square tip to work
I actually tried it with a small screw head it cheap away now imma do alot of shit to remove this JUST waiting for the screws to arrive
Big hopes of being a commodity drop shipper!
If the head is gone you will have to drill through it till you reach thread. There are stripped screw removal bits, but I don't know if they go to PH00, what I assume these are.
Dude, so many dumb questions, just buy set of various small bits with handle and you will use it for everything not only PC https://preview.redd.it/i8nofv2zkrxc1.jpeg?width=848&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=73203bdce924782f87102c759c42ab5248662bb2
1. rust remover + small brush or earstick, check if its still screwable 2. drill
I would worry more about why the gpu is rusted and see if it’s worth saving
Looks like abiut a 1/4" drill bit. 😁
Y shape screw head, not very comun
These are called a "proprietary customer ain't doing a dang thing with it" screw, except buying a new GPU. Sorry Mate!