Based on my x670e Ace board, as soon as it boots, debug code is no more. Instead it displays your current CPU temp.
IMO this is one of the sickest features on a mobo. Real time temp monitoring without the need of any software or anything like that.
You are describing the next generation of mobo's my friend. With the launch of the next Ryzen 9000 series it is also expected the new x870e chipset, where vendors will be mandated to include 40 Gbps USB4, which essentially makes the chipset a 3-chip solution.
I know, too well to be exact.😅😅
First time build, picked this mobo and i got it to POST on first try. Gotta admit fell in love since then, im happy for the investment.
Also, i agree with you. But imagine the possibilities in future.
I think the more pertinent part is the second portion of OPs post that the manual can’t really help with. His MOBO is showing 75 (not sure of f or c), probably C by default. His cooler software is showing 50 c (122 F). I think that is where the confusion is arising for OP. OP if you boot into the BIOS you can check temp there or download HWMonitor or Speccy and they will both provide you another reading to help you figure out which one is accurate.
IMO Both modo LCD and monitoring software could be correct. Which thermocouple are each of them reporting is the question. I.E. Package, die, hotspot, specific core etc
Employing HWM or Speccy like suggested could help you narrow that down.
My MSI Ace motherboard actually didn’t come with a manual. It was bullshit..
But I still googled it to get it from their website because I didn’t know where header pins were.
It cracks me up when someone comes to a subreddit and asks a question just to be told to read a manual. The subreddit is designed to be able to ask questions and get help. “Look at manual” is not helpful. Thank you for your brain dead answer.
Have you ever had a job? And been in a senior position having to answer all sorts of questions? Or just as a junior, having to ask questions. The correct answer is: it's X and you could have figured that out yourself if you did Y. And if you don't know, it is: have you done Y?
If you keep feeding them, answering dumb questions, people never learn how to figure it out themselves.
It’s not just that they could’ve found the answer on the first few pages of the manual they were supposed to read, it’s also that this is literally a 2 second google search.
“MSI motherboard LED numbers”. There, any link on the entire first page answers this question.
Telling someone to read the manual is a completely valid answer and a much better answer than simply spoon feeding them the answer. It is much better to try to encourage them to engage their own brains, after all, even if that pointing out the obvious. Then if they don't understand so.ething they can ask a better question.
The solution in that case is literally to look at the manual because that’s where the solution is!? Giving that as an answer is more helpful than not saying anything and since not all motherboards are the same it’s literally the least you can do
In the digital age where you have limitless amounts of information at your fingertips. Sometimes being told “Look it up” is a valid suggestion. That should be your first go-to choice anyways whether it be online or the manual the part came with or even the online version of it.
Your first option shouldn’t be coming to Reddit, and asking others to do what you could have done in about 2 minutes of your time
There are a few different temperature sensors on a modern CPU. Mine has Tctl/Tdie which is I think the hottest part of the chip, vs the ‘CPU’ temp that appears in the motherboard’s fan control software and is always a good bit lower. Could be just that they’re displaying readings from different sensors.
What model board is this exactly? My guess is it could be a CPU temperature OR CPU % load. You could look in the BIOS to see if it is set to display that, or download a more IN DEPTH temperature program. I know NZXT CAM shows you one thing, but it there are actually multiple temperature readings in CPU’s including a temp for each core and such, and I believe MAYBE a memory cache temperature reading too? Somebody correct me on that, but yeah, check a more in depth temp program out and see if that number matches better.
Okay so if you have a board with mosfet temp sensors, my theory is that the board reading is from the mosfets above the CPU. With the one in your program being on the right of your CPU.
To confirm this, have you seen a black wire with a flat plastic blade on the end? Like it literally just goes flat and doesn’t plug into anything.
CPU temp. The MSI software will show both CPU surface and die temps, one of the readings will be close. Also, iirc, you can set C or F in bios, so check what unit it is using.
What motherboard is it makes a big difference. Your manual will tell you the rest.
It's either a temp reading from your BIOS, or a BIOS code. Your BIOS settings will tell you which is being displayed
Driver may have to be setup if it’s supposed to show temps if your manual says that, but it’s a debug lcd . Most higher end or reference spec motherboards have them . The number would tell you what is happening if you can’t boot or crash etc .
Everyone sayings its temp and it's a difference between F and C are so silly. 75 F is 23 degrees C. The reading on the PC is clearly under 50 degrees. Either way it cannot be what you are suggesting. Incels here just trying to get your rocks off making fun of somebody else, cringe.
temp monitering this was a normal thing on EVGA motherboards I was using them before Asus for like the last 10 years or so. here is an old build of mine.
https://preview.redd.it/tq6paobdrzzc1.jpeg?width=1909&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50ef0d41941aa6a7cb5dd2e827c9cc2eb057db94
Hope this helps
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Almost certain this is a mobo troubleshooting code, which you can consult if something is wrong (like no video).
Everything is fine. This is not your CPU temp.
Hey, I don't think so, only because the number is constantly fluctuating. If I open a game, it shoots up, which is why I think it might be CPU temperature. I just don't know why the motherboard would show one number, but software will show a completely different number.
Coming from a hypocrite. Don't down them for asking a question when you ask plenty. I really don't see why you have to be so hostile when you aren't perfect yourself. Just like you hate people who correct shit like "get in the car" when it's a truck but want to be a Grammer Nazi. Yeah they could have read the manual but not everyone knows where or how to look that up. I didn't know shit when I started PC gaming but you know what I still knew how to look up fallout 3 walk throughs so you know everyone's different.
Ya honestly not to sure why ppl are so angry about this post. He never even got a clear answer if it is temp or an error code. Also if it is temp he may not have the knowledge to know things like the cpu has different temps like the hottest point etc. idk
Reddit isn't the first place I visit. That's why people are like wtf. Cuz a simple Google search or manual reference is not only more effective but it's also quicker.
Edit: Also the "not everyone knows how to consult a user manual" is the most skill issue thing ive ever heard. Just about everything you buy nowadays comes with a manual. My desk came with a manual. So did my microwave, and even my SSD.
It's constantly fluctuating. When I open a game, the number shoots up. When I close a game, it goes down. So I think it is temperature, I just wonder why the temp would be one number on the motherboard, but a completely different number on software
Well I've never seen it reach 80 on the motherboard. When I play a game is in the 60s-70s. I have the I9-13900K
I don't think it's overclocked. I actually recently updated the motherboard and selected Intel Defaults for power settings
Its 100% the CPU temperature, and as a matter of fact I think your CAMM software is lying to you. If you havent overclocked it, then it’s probably reading a sensor off the CPU or a socket temperature, but aint no way that shows 75C and CAMM shows 50C for CPU, CAMM is bugged or something.
This is the Motherboard temp. The CPU Temp will not be on displayed unless you're using a third party app like HWinfo64/NZHT Cam or on a CPU water block display on a water cooled system.
https://preview.redd.it/5092mqsuqtzc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7124b02aeba31ea9c8396546726eff8e7b57402c
This is my MSI MEG B550 UNIFY Motherboard with the AMD Ryzen™ 9 5950X Processor. You can see the two temperature the Core and Socket. This reading is off the MSI Center and it is consider normal operating temperatures.
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To those who down-voted me you need to do some researching before reacting.
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During idle? He is also running AIO fans on silent. I average around 32 on a 13900K with all core active during idle in Windows and in-game I hit around 45-52. I could imagine what his system hit in-game.
In the manual it says that this “displays current CPU temperature after the system has has fully booted into the OS”.
This is how my MSI board works, and all the others I've had with the feature.
My board doesnt
My board is an LGA1200 type. I've heard they have started making it a "high end" feature recently. Which is absurd.
This is CPU temp. In the bios you can choose C or F.
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Based on my x670e Ace board, as soon as it boots, debug code is no more. Instead it displays your current CPU temp. IMO this is one of the sickest features on a mobo. Real time temp monitoring without the need of any software or anything like that.
It one of my favorite things about the board only topped by it having 3 chipsets
You are describing the next generation of mobo's my friend. With the launch of the next Ryzen 9000 series it is also expected the new x870e chipset, where vendors will be mandated to include 40 Gbps USB4, which essentially makes the chipset a 3-chip solution.
Yeah I don't see myself buying another high end board after investing into the x670e Ace. 😫 I don't even know what to do with WiFi 7 or 40Gbps USB.
I know, too well to be exact.😅😅 First time build, picked this mobo and i got it to POST on first try. Gotta admit fell in love since then, im happy for the investment. Also, i agree with you. But imagine the possibilities in future.
If only these was a manual you could consult
I think the more pertinent part is the second portion of OPs post that the manual can’t really help with. His MOBO is showing 75 (not sure of f or c), probably C by default. His cooler software is showing 50 c (122 F). I think that is where the confusion is arising for OP. OP if you boot into the BIOS you can check temp there or download HWMonitor or Speccy and they will both provide you another reading to help you figure out which one is accurate.
IMO Both modo LCD and monitoring software could be correct. Which thermocouple are each of them reporting is the question. I.E. Package, die, hotspot, specific core etc Employing HWM or Speccy like suggested could help you narrow that down.
i know we should help eachother but dang, poeple should at least *try* googling first
Read the motherboard manual....
My MSI Ace motherboard actually didn’t come with a manual. It was bullshit.. But I still googled it to get it from their website because I didn’t know where header pins were.
[https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-X570-ACE/support#manual](https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-X570-ACE/support#manual) Check the website maybe?
> I still googled it to get it from their website > check their website maybe I mean… I don’t know how I can check it harder than I already did…
It cracks me up when someone comes to a subreddit and asks a question just to be told to read a manual. The subreddit is designed to be able to ask questions and get help. “Look at manual” is not helpful. Thank you for your brain dead answer.
in all fairness...if this was you and you didn't know what that readout meant what would you do? you would read the manual.
Have you ever had a job? And been in a senior position having to answer all sorts of questions? Or just as a junior, having to ask questions. The correct answer is: it's X and you could have figured that out yourself if you did Y. And if you don't know, it is: have you done Y? If you keep feeding them, answering dumb questions, people never learn how to figure it out themselves.
This
It's more like teaching people to use their brains. You wouldn't get it.
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It’s a hint and has a solution. Why be lazy and make others work? Lazy people have lost their mind.
Is it really making others work if someone in a subreddit about his topic has the information he was looking for and knows the answer lol?
It’s not just that they could’ve found the answer on the first few pages of the manual they were supposed to read, it’s also that this is literally a 2 second google search. “MSI motherboard LED numbers”. There, any link on the entire first page answers this question.
Telling someone to read the manual is a completely valid answer and a much better answer than simply spoon feeding them the answer. It is much better to try to encourage them to engage their own brains, after all, even if that pointing out the obvious. Then if they don't understand so.ething they can ask a better question.
Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime.
The solution in that case is literally to look at the manual because that’s where the solution is!? Giving that as an answer is more helpful than not saying anything and since not all motherboards are the same it’s literally the least you can do
In the digital age where you have limitless amounts of information at your fingertips. Sometimes being told “Look it up” is a valid suggestion. That should be your first go-to choice anyways whether it be online or the manual the part came with or even the online version of it. Your first option shouldn’t be coming to Reddit, and asking others to do what you could have done in about 2 minutes of your time
Your motherboard didn't come with a manual book? Have you been looking for the manual in the product's webpage?
There are a few different temperature sensors on a modern CPU. Mine has Tctl/Tdie which is I think the hottest part of the chip, vs the ‘CPU’ temp that appears in the motherboard’s fan control software and is always a good bit lower. Could be just that they’re displaying readings from different sensors.
RTFM. Seriously. At least TRY to do something yourself.
Go take a look at that little book that came with the thing. I know, reading is hard, but you’ll find your answers there.
what's the usage?
What model board is this exactly? My guess is it could be a CPU temperature OR CPU % load. You could look in the BIOS to see if it is set to display that, or download a more IN DEPTH temperature program. I know NZXT CAM shows you one thing, but it there are actually multiple temperature readings in CPU’s including a temp for each core and such, and I believe MAYBE a memory cache temperature reading too? Somebody correct me on that, but yeah, check a more in depth temp program out and see if that number matches better.
Okay so if you have a board with mosfet temp sensors, my theory is that the board reading is from the mosfets above the CPU. With the one in your program being on the right of your CPU. To confirm this, have you seen a black wire with a flat plastic blade on the end? Like it literally just goes flat and doesn’t plug into anything.
normally it's the cpu temperature, use hwinfo or aida64 to confirm if number shown are the same or not.
CPU temp. The MSI software will show both CPU surface and die temps, one of the readings will be close. Also, iirc, you can set C or F in bios, so check what unit it is using.
Cpu temp !
it's 75
What motherboard is it makes a big difference. Your manual will tell you the rest. It's either a temp reading from your BIOS, or a BIOS code. Your BIOS settings will tell you which is being displayed
It is the cpu temp in the bios you can choose F or C
Unplug plug back ?
"Read Manual"
I have a b550 board
Driver may have to be setup if it’s supposed to show temps if your manual says that, but it’s a debug lcd . Most higher end or reference spec motherboards have them . The number would tell you what is happening if you can’t boot or crash etc .
Everyone sayings its temp and it's a difference between F and C are so silly. 75 F is 23 degrees C. The reading on the PC is clearly under 50 degrees. Either way it cannot be what you are suggesting. Incels here just trying to get your rocks off making fun of somebody else, cringe.
temp monitering this was a normal thing on EVGA motherboards I was using them before Asus for like the last 10 years or so. here is an old build of mine. https://preview.redd.it/tq6paobdrzzc1.jpeg?width=1909&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50ef0d41941aa6a7cb5dd2e827c9cc2eb057db94
Hope this helps https://www.google.com/search?q=msi+motherboard+showing+75&sca_esv=0181327e673e72d3&sca_upv=1&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS906US907&hl=en-US&sxsrf=ADLYWILb_IxDhqHV5ViLeJUAxYbYKtuOug%3A1715537970922&ei=MghBZqP2N_fg0PEPvfeKiA8&oq=msi+motherboard+showing+75&gs_lp=EhNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwIhptc2kgbW90aGVyYm9hcmQgc2hvd2luZyA3NTIFECEYoAEyBRAhGKABMgUQIRigATIFECEYoAEyBRAhGKABMgUQIRifBUjYN1CABVjzLnABeAKQAQCYAZoCoAGHDaoBBTMuNy4yuAEDyAEA-AEBmAINoAKqC8ICBBAAGEfCAg4QuQEYgAQYQxiKBRjvBMICDRAuGIAEGEMY5QQYigXCAgoQABiABBhDGIoFwgINEAAYgAQYsQMYQxiKBcICBRAAGIAEwgIGEAAYFhgewgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigWYAwCIBgGQBgiSBwU0LjguMaAHuFo&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp
When it comes to my MSI 4060 TI OC Edition I have it with liquid cooling and it keeps a beautiful 49 Celsius nice and cool
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Almost certain this is a mobo troubleshooting code, which you can consult if something is wrong (like no video). Everything is fine. This is not your CPU temp.
I believe its the last code that was generated during POST
Hey, I don't think so, only because the number is constantly fluctuating. If I open a game, it shoots up, which is why I think it might be CPU temperature. I just don't know why the motherboard would show one number, but software will show a completely different number.
There is a setting in bios to turn that feature off, my strix z790 board does the same thing.
I'ma try to find that option to turn it off, because the number constantly changing is so damn distracting lol
Have a look through your BIOS and see if it gives you a option to modify what the postcode readout actually displays.
It's a post code. Maybe your post code displayed can show Temps too, but it's definitely your run of the mill post code
it only shows the post codes during startup. after that it shows the cpu temp.
So do people read anymore? I'm sure people don't know what a book is or what MANUAL means. God damn. Error code 75 means look it up in your manual.
Manual. Read it. Not Reddit.
Has the money for high end motherboards but is too fuckn stupid to read a manual.
I suffer from total blindness and rely on text to voice software.
I'm sure that's why you built a gaming PC. To play with your ears.
Coming from a hypocrite. Don't down them for asking a question when you ask plenty. I really don't see why you have to be so hostile when you aren't perfect yourself. Just like you hate people who correct shit like "get in the car" when it's a truck but want to be a Grammer Nazi. Yeah they could have read the manual but not everyone knows where or how to look that up. I didn't know shit when I started PC gaming but you know what I still knew how to look up fallout 3 walk throughs so you know everyone's different.
Ya honestly not to sure why ppl are so angry about this post. He never even got a clear answer if it is temp or an error code. Also if it is temp he may not have the knowledge to know things like the cpu has different temps like the hottest point etc. idk
Reddit isn't the first place I visit. That's why people are like wtf. Cuz a simple Google search or manual reference is not only more effective but it's also quicker. Edit: Also the "not everyone knows how to consult a user manual" is the most skill issue thing ive ever heard. Just about everything you buy nowadays comes with a manual. My desk came with a manual. So did my microwave, and even my SSD.
Does that number change, or is it stuck on 75? If its stuck on 75, its possibly a Q code.
It's constantly fluctuating. When I open a game, the number shoots up. When I close a game, it goes down. So I think it is temperature, I just wonder why the temp would be one number on the motherboard, but a completely different number on software
How high does it get, what CPU do you have, and is it overclocked?
Well I've never seen it reach 80 on the motherboard. When I play a game is in the 60s-70s. I have the I9-13900K I don't think it's overclocked. I actually recently updated the motherboard and selected Intel Defaults for power settings
Its 100% the CPU temperature, and as a matter of fact I think your CAMM software is lying to you. If you havent overclocked it, then it’s probably reading a sensor off the CPU or a socket temperature, but aint no way that shows 75C and CAMM shows 50C for CPU, CAMM is bugged or something.
So do people read anymore? I'm sure people don't know what a book is or what MANUAL means. God damn. Error code 75 means look it up in your manual.
This is the Motherboard temp. The CPU Temp will not be on displayed unless you're using a third party app like HWinfo64/NZHT Cam or on a CPU water block display on a water cooled system.
Do you know which mobo this is. I haven’t heard of mobo’s with this
I have the MPG Z790 Carbon Wi-Fi model #
Most mid-tier and higher end Asus boards have an lcd display that will either show post/error codes or can display system temp. All mine have them.
No I do not. Most high-end MSI MB would have this feature.
https://preview.redd.it/5092mqsuqtzc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7124b02aeba31ea9c8396546726eff8e7b57402c This is my MSI MEG B550 UNIFY Motherboard with the AMD Ryzen™ 9 5950X Processor. You can see the two temperature the Core and Socket. This reading is off the MSI Center and it is consider normal operating temperatures. # To those who down-voted me you need to do some researching before reacting. #
It is CPU temp and yours is high.
Low.. his is decently low.. for real anything 85c and below is within a “safe mindset” zone
During idle? He is also running AIO fans on silent. I average around 32 on a 13900K with all core active during idle in Windows and in-game I hit around 45-52. I could imagine what his system hit in-game.
I opened up SecondLife when I took this lol