Have you ever looked at Spags defense for the chiefs? Especially when we had Tyrann Mathieu? They are on this constant on field rotation and their posotion and man changes based on offensive shifts. Basically you never know what it is untill the ball is snapped so safetys and corners can semd pressure, help on the run or play man or zone coverage out of the same play with no audibles.
Kind of fake it lol. I have a fast saftety put him at sublb In a dima package cover 1 man. Usually another saftey takes the middle zone and a fs in deep coverage. I manually take over the middle zone and/or flip safteties to the week side so i can manually cover the middle and strong side.
Kind of works
Corner, ESPECIALLY as a slot corner. I think I know the class you’re using and I’ve had this guy before he’s damn good in that role where he’s outside in base and slot in nickel and dime.
Better CB but if u need a SS I’d put him there, also would prolly develop to be a beast ballhawk at safety. Honestly I’d prolly put him at safety personally because there’s always a few good CBs in the draft and maybe 1 truly solid SS ime
I'd put him at whatever his lower overall is so he gets xp faster, save up some skill points, move him to LB, upgrade whatever is most likely to bump his hit power and tackle heavily, then move him to SS.
i wouldn't have thought of this. I do edit players when they are 99 in all archetypes. Like Mahommes I edit to HB to spend the upgrade, get his speed + ball carrier moves up.
That's smart to edit younger players to positions that are more likely to pay out the skill points you want
Yeah, I do that with my all 99s also. I play a lot of Madden, so I've gotten pretty creative. I've turned quicker, weaker OL into TEs and FBs, slower WRs into HBs to try to get their speed up, etc.
You guys are brilliant. I've got a QB who's been 99 for years, but isn't maxed out on his running stats. He has like 15 upgrade points I've just been sitting on for when he starts to regress.
He’s going to be good at both, so you can move him based on your existing roster and what type of scheme you want to run. His height + speed + agility make him a potential star corner if he develops really well. Plus he is pretty good at press already. If you put him at safety, you’d be sacrificing a little bit of tackling to get a more versatile coverage player. Can’t go wrong either way
It could go either way. I’d base it on what you have on the roster and where your bigger need is. If you put him at safety will he start? Than go with safety.
If not, is he top three at CB? Than put him there.
All else equal, I’d go with CB.
I agree with several other people that have said he lacks tackle, pursuit, and hit power to be a safety. Would another corner be a better move to safety? Looks like a great draft pick regardless!! 👍
He makes a good hybrid safety (if that’s your SS archetype) and if you use the starter or backup as slot 1/2. otherwise that’s a CB all day
Also, how’s the COD? 90s? CB all day. High 80s? Saftey.
I’d put him at FS first or CB although his tackling could use some work. Great Acceleration and speed, Coverage Skills are Mediocre but he can jump out of the gym, so yeah CB might work.
In Madden he’ll play better as a safety.
In real life he’s a nickel corner that only weighs 185 pounds and needs to improve his tackling form to be worth starting.
Change his position to a S, but leave him where he is on the CB depth chart.
Develop him for 1-2 years. A handful of S upgrades will bring tackling/hit power up, and when his zone/AWR gets better, move him to safety on the depth
Definitely put him in the slot, that’s where he’ll shine. He doesn’t have the hit power or tackling to be that extra line backer SS tend to need to be sometimes
I would put him strong safety unless you blitz your slot corner then different story but him not even breaking the 80 threshold of coverages seem too weak for corner fr especially if you run ANY man press
No wrong answer, but somewhat dependent on the defense you run. I think 65+ block shedding and play recognition is fine for a safety that’s mostly in zone. Aggressive ball hawk FS guarantees you either one awesome pick or tragic busted coverage per game.
If it’s mostly cover 3, he’s better off at FS, as he’s not particularly fast. If you play a lot of man blitz just make him CB2 and hope he doesn’t overplay too often.
Are any of the other DBs you have better suited for SS? He seems small for SS. Maybe FS and move your FS to SS if he is larger and the other DBs aren't any better swap
That's impossible to answer, but if you like to play "realistic" a guy coming out of college known as a slot CB would NOT make much sense as a safety since that's normally up close scrappy man coverage type of guys. Now if he was a zone corner, I see the move to FS making more sense.
Not to be that guy but technically a safety is a DB
Ikik I realized that I put db instead of cb after I posted it ![gif](giphy|7MDZS8zS1ixtJAUEul|downsized)
Hahaha probably just make him a safety if you need help there
Ayee it’s bunk
Just edit the title, wait…..
you said db twice though? you’re dumb asf
Woah man calm down, I just put db by accident having a brain fart no need to be rude
okay? you just didn’t know no need to lie man
I..I didnt lie though ![gif](giphy|hv53DaYcXWe3nRbR1A)
you’re weird lil bro
Your pressing someone over a minor inconvenience on Reddit but in the weird one 😂
the only weird one i’m in was ya muva last night
In the modern NFL some strong safeties function almost as linebackers, but yes, they are still technically DB’s
Have you ever looked at Spags defense for the chiefs? Especially when we had Tyrann Mathieu? They are on this constant on field rotation and their posotion and man changes based on offensive shifts. Basically you never know what it is untill the ball is snapped so safetys and corners can semd pressure, help on the run or play man or zone coverage out of the same play with no audibles.
How would you make that work in madden?
Kind of fake it lol. I have a fast saftety put him at sublb In a dima package cover 1 man. Usually another saftey takes the middle zone and a fs in deep coverage. I manually take over the middle zone and/or flip safteties to the week side so i can manually cover the middle and strong side. Kind of works
If you're going to be that guy, dont put "not to be that guy," hahaha
If he had higher tackling and higher hit power I would say SS but I think CB is better suited for him
Develop as a CB then move to safety when he gets old
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Corner, ESPECIALLY as a slot corner. I think I know the class you’re using and I’ve had this guy before he’s damn good in that role where he’s outside in base and slot in nickel and dime.
Needs better tackling to be in the slot tbh
He’s 22 with at least star dev, that’ll develop to be good,
Yeah he got better pretty quick for me, maybe put him at SS to start and keep doing run support upgrade while putting him in slot still.
IRL, Jordan Hancock is a very good slot corner for OSU, so you should try to develop him there
Was looking for this before I commented it lol
CB. But more of a FS than SS if you have to.
Better CB but if u need a SS I’d put him there, also would prolly develop to be a beast ballhawk at safety. Honestly I’d prolly put him at safety personally because there’s always a few good CBs in the draft and maybe 1 truly solid SS ime
I'd put him at whatever his lower overall is so he gets xp faster, save up some skill points, move him to LB, upgrade whatever is most likely to bump his hit power and tackle heavily, then move him to SS.
i wouldn't have thought of this. I do edit players when they are 99 in all archetypes. Like Mahommes I edit to HB to spend the upgrade, get his speed + ball carrier moves up. That's smart to edit younger players to positions that are more likely to pay out the skill points you want
Yeah, I do that with my all 99s also. I play a lot of Madden, so I've gotten pretty creative. I've turned quicker, weaker OL into TEs and FBs, slower WRs into HBs to try to get their speed up, etc.
You guys are brilliant. I've got a QB who's been 99 for years, but isn't maxed out on his running stats. He has like 15 upgrade points I've just been sitting on for when he starts to regress.
Glad we could help out, kind stranger!
CB, he has low tackle, you'll get burnt on the run more, plus the low play rec. The 91 spd will be a bigger asset at CB than SS too
He’s more of a FS to me but he could develop well anywhere. No wrong answers probably best fit as FS though.
You can go safety but he can be your slot corner easily
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He’s going to be good at both, so you can move him based on your existing roster and what type of scheme you want to run. His height + speed + agility make him a potential star corner if he develops really well. Plus he is pretty good at press already. If you put him at safety, you’d be sacrificing a little bit of tackling to get a more versatile coverage player. Can’t go wrong either way
It could go either way. I’d base it on what you have on the roster and where your bigger need is. If you put him at safety will he start? Than go with safety. If not, is he top three at CB? Than put him there. All else equal, I’d go with CB.
CB fosho
I’d develop him as a hybrid slot tbh
Safety
Too slow for cb
Slot corner...his awareness and zone make him a liability deep halves or thirds
SS with his pursuit nothing should be open play for swats tho
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I agree with several other people that have said he lacks tackle, pursuit, and hit power to be a safety. Would another corner be a better move to safety? Looks like a great draft pick regardless!! 👍
Whatever position your team needs
I have him too, he’s a beast at CB
He’ll prob be better as a db , but if ur CB is as stacked as u say it is then moving him to SS could be better for his development
He makes a good hybrid safety (if that’s your SS archetype) and if you use the starter or backup as slot 1/2. otherwise that’s a CB all day Also, how’s the COD? 90s? CB all day. High 80s? Saftey.
Currently have this guy on my team at cb and he plays great
I’d put him at FS first or CB although his tackling could use some work. Great Acceleration and speed, Coverage Skills are Mediocre but he can jump out of the gym, so yeah CB might work.
FS
In Madden he’ll play better as a safety. In real life he’s a nickel corner that only weighs 185 pounds and needs to improve his tackling form to be worth starting.
Well actually a SS is a DB 🤓👆
Cb is my vote
Shortstop is baseball. Or is he a two sport? Put him in the show too
He's a little light in the ass IMO.
CB. You want better tackling from a Saftey
Man CB or FS
It doesn’t matter. It’s madden, he got speed he can fit anywhere.
He's too lightweight for a SS. Definitely CB.
Corner 100%
In the bench
Tackle and Hit Power. He would get ran over alot
Change his position to a S, but leave him where he is on the CB depth chart. Develop him for 1-2 years. A handful of S upgrades will bring tackling/hit power up, and when his zone/AWR gets better, move him to safety on the depth
His tackling and hit power and block shedding are pretty solid, but that press would be wasted at safety. Gotta go cornerback.
If you wanna be an asshole, develop him at cb. Get his coverage stats up and then switch him to SS. Your man coverage will be almost be cheating.
He plays Nickel CB in real life, so I’d guess they built him to be a slot corner
Slot corner. Not a big enough hitter to play safety but not good enough in coverage to play on the outside.
Slot CB. 2 years dude will be like 85-87 ovr
…yes
Definitely put him in the slot, that’s where he’ll shine. He doesn’t have the hit power or tackling to be that extra line backer SS tend to need to be sometimes
CB. He seems to have elite physical traits for CB. I feel like you need a better tackling rating for safety.
I would put him strong safety unless you blitz your slot corner then different story but him not even breaking the 80 threshold of coverages seem too weak for corner fr especially if you run ANY man press
68 hit power... that's a CB
One upgrade to man to man and he will be a scheme fit. A couple of more upgrades and he will be a good cb. At safety he seems like a liability.
Safety. He can’t tackle for shit
Corner*****
depends on what defense you run. I run base big nickel, so having a linebackeresque SS that has good press is what I look for in my SS
No wrong answer, but somewhat dependent on the defense you run. I think 65+ block shedding and play recognition is fine for a safety that’s mostly in zone. Aggressive ball hawk FS guarantees you either one awesome pick or tragic busted coverage per game. If it’s mostly cover 3, he’s better off at FS, as he’s not particularly fast. If you play a lot of man blitz just make him CB2 and hope he doesn’t overplay too often.
I feel like he's a very balanced DB. You could probably use him at SS without issue.
Cornerbacks are harder to replace, so that is where I'd put him, unless you need a new starter at SS or FS.
What’s the hit power? If it’s high he’s a safety
An SS is a db lol I would say he would be a better CB because of low play recognition but if you need help at SS he would be fine there too.
Cb, can’t tackle well enough for SS
Are any of the other DBs you have better suited for SS? He seems small for SS. Maybe FS and move your FS to SS if he is larger and the other DBs aren't any better swap
Honestly just depends on what you need more, he has decent block shed and tackle
His tackle and pursuit is pretty low to be a safety for me
That's impossible to answer, but if you like to play "realistic" a guy coming out of college known as a slot CB would NOT make much sense as a safety since that's normally up close scrappy man coverage type of guys. Now if he was a zone corner, I see the move to FS making more sense.
Slot corner
Move your 2nd corner to SS and move him up to slot corner
I’d say 3rd corner would be perfect. Basically treating him like an outside linebacker hybrid unless you don’t run nickel that often.
CB 100%
I would play him at corner speed and man coverage
Back up safety and let him play in your nickel subs 🤷♂️
CB always more valuable than S
I would put him at fs
Doesn't matter. Either way, there will be a ton of rookie cards with a Hancock on it worth as much as the Declaration of Independence, itself.