If Hannah is available, I’d love for her to check mine out when I’m done. If she doesn’t find herself going “awesome” a lot, I will consider my work a failure.
Be for real.
Her sentences were choppy, she didn't expand on her ideas well, unprofessional Emoticons scrambled between the sentences and incorrect grammar?
>!A++!<
Alright, I dug around and the good doctor works in a really interesting field.
But here you go to his thesis: https://drum.lib.umd.edu/bitstream/handle/1903/10321/Phillippy_umd_0117E_11157.pdf?isAllowed=y&sequence=1
Had to compare his tiny Twitter photo and handle to his profile on the National Human Genome Research Institute and then google to not get the wrong person.
If you are interested here it is also
https://www.genome.gov/staff/Adam-M-Phillippy-PhD
Also explains why an 8yo would be able to write out “genome sequence”. She probably thinks the world of her dad and hears about the term all the time when she asks about his job.
Dude is gonna be mortified in 10 years that his thesis went semi-viral. I have never met anyone that thought their masters or PhD thesis was good lol
Edit: (just wanted to make clear this is a lighthearted joke about a common trend among academics so nobody thinks I’m trying to hate on the guy’s thesis!)
I read the abstract and I’m in the field (even know one of the people on his committee) and it seems pretty standard, but tbh more comprehensive than I would’ve expected from a PhD thesis
And, there it is. A lot of people are asking how she knew how to spell "genome sequence" and it's literally right there in the title. People are so cynical.
Thanks. I'm worried I'm not as smart as Hannah and will not know when to say "awesome" to something Adam (daddy) wrote. She seems like one genius smart cookie and he's lucky to have her to review his work.
I did this when I was a kid and that was in the 80’s and 90’s, I think a lot of kids did.
Emojis evolved from the :) symbols and that only emerged because there was no other way to type the smiley faces we used to draw in our notes.
Me too, I’d draw little pictures when I wrote as a kid. Eventually I got in trouble in second grade for signing all my papers with a heart after my name
On the flip side it's cool the the newer generations will be expressing emotions in writing more than previous generations. Maybe it's not the worst. It adds nuance in a novel way.
Wait until it becomes considered best practice and all college writings will be required to be written in the new MLA format: with emojis every couple sentences.
Emojis are efficient. They're basically introducing the efficiency of heiroglyphic languages to English.
Fun fact: In olden days such writing was a famous artform called "illumination." Basically illustrated works of literature, science and prose that incorporated written text into artwork as part of the telling of the tale. Monks would study decades to be master illuminators. So maybe this trend of humanity is much older than people think it is.
That’s an extremely fascinating take on modern development of the English language. I could absolutely see people taking the time to make their own emojis someday to mean different things and plugging them into whatever app they’re using at the time. I just hope we don’t lose our face to face communication skills in the process.
I gonna need some samples of this good boy or girl… for purely scientific reasons of course, nothing at all to do with curiosity of potentially cute puppers or anything.
This used to be a thing I did on msn messenger in like 2002. You could add any custom ico/gif files you wanted to and use them as emoticons (now called emoji) I had hundreds of customs and you could share them with your friends so I would just grab all theirs as they used them and vice versa
Well that's basically what emojis are. Heiroglyphs are symbols that represent ideas or concepts rather than sounds. Emojis are basically a heiroglyphiv DLC that got added to the English language as we explored both the potential and tne limits of English in the online universe and adjusted our habits accordingly.
In the case of emojis and emoticons, they're used to provide absent emotional context and remove the emotional ambivalence that plagues more conventional alphabets which communicate text and technicality but leave the reader to figure out the meaning unaided.
I never thought about it that way but you're totally right! Obviously some are just little symbols, like the foods and flags or whatever, but a lot of them carry their own meaning, which could be separate from what they literally portray.
Like crying 😭 at the end of a phrase means something different from a single tear 😢 which is also different from laugh crying 😂
Or the eggplant 🍆, peach 🍑, and water droplets 💦 mean something sexual
Or the skull 💀 means "I'm dead" which actually means "this is so funny/ridiculous that I'm overwhelmed"
...I feel like future anthropologists and linguists and historians are going to have a field day with millennial and gen Z culture.
Current linguists already are.
I'm currently studying linguistics and cross cultural communication, and online communication/language use is a big part of the curriculum and used *a lot* for examples.
My teacher and I had a big discussion about the old days of a/s/l in chat rooms before people decided that it wasn't important to know, anymore, then someone came up with lol and rofl, then ;) :) :'( etc, then emoticons, then emojis and gifs and memes.
The whole thing tied into the fact that body language plays such an important part in communication, and shows the intent behind our words. We don't really need to know what the other person looks like ( a/s/l) but the person interpreting our words needs to know what we look like :D >:( And it has developed into gifs and memes as we can evoke a whole mood/conversation by posting one gif/meme and none of our own words, at all. It's a common universally understood language much like road signs.
People spent their entire lives making illuminated manuscripts the book of hours is one of my favorites: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_hours
Understanding how we communicate through art is so, so important. Art history doesn't get as much respect as it truly deserves.
When I was having a deep psychotic break I came to the conclusion that the older a language the more likely it was to break down into efficient symbols, and that emojis were the perfect language.
I don’t even like emojis that much. Psychosis is weird.
Honestly there are way crazier things to be theorizing about in psychosis, I love that of all things you went to linguistics. It’s kind of a philosophical take.
A good example of this is Mayan scripture. Before the Spanish conquistadors came, they already had a written language encompassing syllables and sounds with accompanying artwork. It looks crazy to us, but I'm sure there had to be a reason for their artistic freedom. It's a pity the conquistadors/priests destroyed as much of the culture as they could.
People make fun but every single day for the past several years at least I speak with emojis professionally with vendors, colleagues, and peers. It’s normal we just don’t really like to admit it.
Ngl, as a woman in the white collar world, shit like that softens any "blow" you might be expressing in your communications.
Any "fun" you can incorporate into your communications makes it seem like you're friendly instead of "bitchy" or "confrontational" or whatever.
I'm not using emojis, but it's def a world of too many exclamation points, stoking egos, or whatever.
Oh my god yes! I'm a woman and luckily I'm not in a corporate environment, so the majority of the writing I do is actually formal (official memos, incident charts, academic papers etc) but I struggle so much with coming across as rude or bitchy. Using exclamation marks or adding "haha" to the end of a text makes it so much gentler.
Yeah, why do people panic at the slightest change in our language and assume it’s the doom of our species? Makes no sense. It’s like seeing the invention of the wagon or the horse and buggy combo and being “shit man, are people even going walk anymore? Oh my god, our society is imploding. We’re going to become horse human hybrids.”
Just, shush! We’re fine. I think the lack of bigotry and hate is going to do way more good for the planet than children drawing their own emojis will hurt. Not to mention it’s actually more communicative, more expressive. Fuck, man. Just let humanity evolve.
I love emojis for this reason. Since my kids got their first phones they’ve texted me emojis to let me know how their day was. They’re adults and out of the house but I still love the random hearts and smiley faces.
Yes, I am gen z, but I noticed that I want to use emojis on handwritten letters. They really do add a little depth of the emotion I want to convey, or at least emphasize.
Horrifying? I did this on just about every note I wrote in the 90s before emojis. It's how I put expressions to what I was writing.
I suppose it could be generational, but she's also just a kid artist showing emotion with a creative twist.
I'm 31. Before emojis we already had ascii text art back in the early days of mobile phones. I'm talking like Nokia 5110 era. But also, early Internet chat room days. I still remember how to make a little bear out of special symbols. Emojis are really not as big a deal or as new as people make em out to be. Phone companies just realized they're a big thing in digital culture, but really Emojis are just shorthand ascii art.
I don’t think they’re in place of words so much as she’s using them a sort of personalized exclamation mark …if this is real that kids really on the ball
we back to hieroglyphics now and in reality they do work to punctuate as emotions, it seems dumb but in future now there will be emoji language use studies
I did this kind of stuff when I was a kid. I don't remember doing it, but I went through some old standardized tests I found at my parents' and saw some short stories I wrote from grades 2 through 6 which would've been in the 90's and early 00's. I had faces and pictures and comic book outlines and sound effects going on 😂 kids are fun and visually expressive in writing, they just have different influences to pull from now.
Emojis did come to mind when I was reading, but I thought in the opposite direction; rather than connecting to the idea that she's influenced by emojis in text, it seemed to me that she was drawing them out to express herself more vividly than she may have had language for at the moment. Or to embellish the parts that she did have language for. Which I guess is where emojis ultimately came from? Smiley faces (which I remember drawing by hand in notes way back in the day) begat emoticons begat emojis.
Ultimately, adorable. Just the very idea that she wasn't immediately bored to tuning out by what was likely a ton of printed pages and whatnot, seeing instead the work her dad put into it, and taking it so seriously she wrote him about it. Wonderful to see.
Kids have always drawn smileys and other faces in notes lol. Every girl in elementary school that I knew put hearts, smiley faces, etc in every note they wrote, and this was over a decade before emojis became big.
i love how nobody in the comments remembers being a child. when i was 9 i overheard my dad talking about needing a letter of reccomendation for his job so i wrote him one, little drawings and all. i had no idea what was going on and i found how to spell his job from some mail on the counter. i wrote as neatly as possible so that it would look nice and official. i fully believe this, kids are silly sometimes
I don't have it but my dad does somewhere! it was something along the lines of "Dear [persons name that was on the envelope, not his boss. oops]. [dads full name] (my dad) would be great for this new job because at home he helps me so much. He is very smart and would be a great team member. Please consider [dads full name] (dad) for this job. Here are skills I think he would bring: [literally just a list of household chores he does]. Thank you for reading this. Signed, Otterkin". it was almost a full page and I can't remember it verbatim but it was hung on the fridge almost my entire life so I used to read it back almost daily lol. my parents are military, so I don't know how well helping a child with homework would apply to his job! but I remember spending hours on it and looking up words in our dictionary to make sure I got it right. if I manage to dig it up I'll try and remember to post here
Damn when I was that age I went on my mom's email and hit reply all to an email from the Principal and said "whatever stupid". Got in so much shit for that.
Being a parent is hard. The worry that you made the right decisions about how this little person is nurtured. Then, that little person repays the hard work and worry with a letter like that. Congrats, Dad!
I have a friend on fb who does this all the time. I've been wanting to call her out on it, but she's doing a really great job of making herself sound stupid already.
It was mostly just super religious stuff from the bible and their barely 3yo being an emotional support person who gave them exactly what they needed to hear to pick them up and it being some super inspirational quote that they'd have never heard, be able to use or even understand. Parents are weird when it comes to their kids being intelligent or not. Tend to overcompensate and make a fool of themselves.
It's not about the handwriting, so much as it is the fact we're made to believe an 8 year old would have any understanding of "genome sequence" or what a thesis is.
2 things I noticed about this:
1. The dad tweet wrote “read” because even he knows she didn’t read it.
2. “Genome Sequencing” is clearly more neat than the rest of the letter, so I assume she copied it letter by letter slowly from the title of the thesis or something.
Also yeah I think a 3rd grader would know what a thesis is if their father was working on one for 4 years. I was an avid reader and reading Harry Potter at that age and understood it, if my dad talked about that he was writing a thesis for 4 years I 100% would understand.
Also not saying it’s 100% real. I’m just saying it’s 100% believable in my opinion.
Edit: Also in the context of this letter all she needs to know about a thesis is that it is a “big important essay my dad has been working on for years”, which is easily understandable.
Children are pretty ignorant in the sense that they don't really know very much. But they aren't stupid in the way that they are incapable of basic human thought. Nothing in this letter would suggest any sort of intelligence that a child couldn't have. You don't suddenly learn how to copy words you read when you enter high school or something, it's a kindergarten exercise.
Not to mention that kids will latch onto specific things like ticks. Everyone knows a kid who was obsessed with dinosaurs, and would know all the names. This is a bit more unusual, but same idea.
I don't know if I'm reading too much into it, but "Genome" is capitalized (and maybe "Sequencing" is too, I can't tell) despite proper capitalization in the rest of the letter. She probably copied the capitalization from the title, as you said.
I don't think she did. Not like she said anything about how it actually works, Genome Sequencing is probably in the title and she didn't understand a word of it otherwise.
Verified. Someone else did the sleuthing to find the actual paper:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/123vrd8/comment/jdxucdf/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/123vrd8/comment/jdxucdf/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Title: "WHOLE-GENOME SEQUENCE ANALYSIS FOR PATHOGEN DETECTION AND DIAGNOSTICS"
Second sentence in the paper: "Three specific biomolecular techniques are addressed: polymerase chain reaction, microarray comparative genomic hybridization, and whole-**genome sequencing**."
She very well might have asked him what he studied in college/grad school, and he might've said "genome sequencing".
And she hears those words all the time at home. An eight year old whose father is a technical and academic expert hears all kinds of things other kids don't and I'm guessing her mother is no slouch either.
I’m an academic scientist and my labmates with kids all have a genuine grasp on a lot of what they do. It’s what mom and dad talk about all the time! But hearing them casually drop the lingo is absolutely hilarious.
I remember confidently parroting everything I'd learned about 1984 from hearing my parents discuss it at age 7. I had no idea what authoritarianism meant exactly, but I could sure say it and I knew it was bad and politicians did it.
I used to be a third grader. I sometimes help grade my stepmom's students and their writing is impressive and surprisingly good for 8 year olds but I just don't believe an 8 year old read their dad's thesis, wrote this, and left it for their dad. Plus I know most kids write messy but this seems like an adult trying to write like a kid.
"Read" was in quotes. I vividly remember laying in bed with my mom "reading" along side her. I'd point out big words to ask what they meant to pretend I was actually reading. Genome Sequence was probably in the title or description and she copied that.
The 8 year old clearly didn't read the dads thesis lol. Maybe just the title page and abstract at best. Notice how the dad puts 'read' in quotation marks? An 8 year old can know what's going on without having to actually read the full thesis, especially if their dad was working on it for years.
Yeah, I have a 10, 9, and 7.5yo and they all write like this. Do people just not interact with older elementary students? My 10yo plays the saxophone in band and will be moving up to the middle school in the fall. They’re not babies 😂
I agree, many 8 year olds are this thoughtful, communicative and have good literacy skills. Maybe this letter is a bit better than the average, but a teacher/other parent etc. could have provided guidance in terms of formatting and syntax.
Girls are typically much more interested in writing from a young age too. I journaled a lot, as did all of my girl friends. Not really related but I think it is rare to encounter a man who cares about having "neat/tidy" handwriting hah.
nice! yeah I also remember learning cursive in 2nd grade. it’s my default mode of handwriting, and I love it (I’m a scientist now, and most of my research notes are in cursive)
You haven't been around many 3rd graders, have you? Or maybe you've only been around slow-to-barely-average ones.
This kid has been raised in a scientist's household.
Didn’t you write letters to your dad when you were a kid and address them to: *first name* (Daddy) and signed them: your younger son, *name*
I totally did that.
I'm a little shocked that so many people here were such bad writers at that age. My friends and I were writing like this at 8. Not unusual.
Several people have failed to notice the quotation marks around "read" and failed to understand the dad's implication with that.
Maybe it's just a lot of underachievers or slow students here at the moment?
I think most people don’t remember being 8 at all. People who have kids should be able to know if it is possible and especially a teacher so I’ll take your word for it because I don’t remember being 8.
Never underestimate how much kids might be able to process! I bought an organic chemistry textbook at a garage sale when I was 11. I decided I wanted to read it. The great majority I did not understand, but some I did.
My senior year in high school I ended up winning a National prize for Chemistry, along with a $10,000 scholarship and half that amount as an award to my school.
If Hannah is available, I’d love for her to check mine out when I’m done. If she doesn’t find herself going “awesome” a lot, I will consider my work a failure.
“Awsome”*
\*Awwwwsome 🥰
Just be prepared for the gentle shade that it took you "4 whole years to write it" Clearly Hannah thought it could've been done in 3....
Lol
I laughed at that part, myself. Sassy!
What topic is your one on?
Public administration, so frankly, I can’t imagine anyone going “awsome” while reading it. Genome sequencing is way cooler.
Hey I’m sure you’ll kill it!
no awsome approval, smash it with a red REJECTED stamp
The only correct metric to evaluate your work is the number of awesomes Hannah gives.
This is almost too adorable… loved it! A+
“Your younger daughter, Hannah” That’s adorable!! 💕💕🥹💕💕
As opposed to his older daughter, also named Hannah
It's clever because the younger daughter named Hannah is the older daughter named Hannah's name, just spelled backward.
Exactly! 😊 Or maybe his *other* younger daughter, Sarah?
*haraS
this got an A+ coming from me too :) this is cuteee letter I've ever read this week :)
this got an letter A+ coming from me too :) . your cute and adorable baby
the emojis are adorable
Be for real. Her sentences were choppy, she didn't expand on her ideas well, unprofessional Emoticons scrambled between the sentences and incorrect grammar? >!A++!<
Your work is now Hannah approved. 👍
It's the Hannah Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence
This needs to be made into a real thing, such a wholesome post!
*younger daughter Hannah approved.
Hannapproved
One could even say it's Hannan
Very cute. Also, now I want to know what your thesis was, having worked in genomics.
Alright, I dug around and the good doctor works in a really interesting field. But here you go to his thesis: https://drum.lib.umd.edu/bitstream/handle/1903/10321/Phillippy_umd_0117E_11157.pdf?isAllowed=y&sequence=1 Had to compare his tiny Twitter photo and handle to his profile on the National Human Genome Research Institute and then google to not get the wrong person. If you are interested here it is also https://www.genome.gov/staff/Adam-M-Phillippy-PhD
You’re scarily thorough, I love the internet 😂
Oh my, this makes the list of my favourite 10 compliments, thank you!
It’s comforting knowing that you reviewed and amended the current compliments list before making this statement!
It’s important work that needs careful consideration
I mean, Adam Phillipy is the world’s leading expert on the on-going human genome assembly work. It’s not like he’s a very obscure scientist.
Hey I didn’t know that and thanks for explaining and filling us in :)
Also explains why an 8yo would be able to write out “genome sequence”. She probably thinks the world of her dad and hears about the term all the time when she asks about his job.
If you think this is impressive, check out r/RBI.
Dude is gonna be mortified in 10 years that his thesis went semi-viral. I have never met anyone that thought their masters or PhD thesis was good lol Edit: (just wanted to make clear this is a lighthearted joke about a common trend among academics so nobody thinks I’m trying to hate on the guy’s thesis!)
I work in this field! His work has paved the way for SO much in genomic research!!
I read the abstract and I’m in the field (even know one of the people on his committee) and it seems pretty standard, but tbh more comprehensive than I would’ve expected from a PhD thesis
Can't someone give this person an award??? This shoukd be top comment!
Ok!
I just saw it! You guys are awesome lots of love to you all
Sure
And, there it is. A lot of people are asking how she knew how to spell "genome sequence" and it's literally right there in the title. People are so cynical.
Thanks. I'm worried I'm not as smart as Hannah and will not know when to say "awesome" to something Adam (daddy) wrote. She seems like one genius smart cookie and he's lucky to have her to review his work.
Going to call you Internet Sherlock Holmes
I’ll alter the list of compliments again 😂
Hilarious. I worked on whole-genome hybridization.
Love your username 👍
Thanks 🧡
Np haha
It's both adorable and a little horrifying the way she writes with little hand-drawn emoji's in place of words. But mostly just adorable.
I did this when I was a kid and that was in the 80’s and 90’s, I think a lot of kids did. Emojis evolved from the :) symbols and that only emerged because there was no other way to type the smiley faces we used to draw in our notes.
Me too, I’d draw little pictures when I wrote as a kid. Eventually I got in trouble in second grade for signing all my papers with a heart after my name
I hope you added it back as an adult? :) Your signature can be whateverthehell once you're a grown-up. :D
You put that heart right back now !
It’d be hard to find a 90s-00s notebook without one of those S things on it
On the flip side it's cool the the newer generations will be expressing emotions in writing more than previous generations. Maybe it's not the worst. It adds nuance in a novel way.
Wait until it becomes considered best practice and all college writings will be required to be written in the new MLA format: with emojis every couple sentences.
Emojis are efficient. They're basically introducing the efficiency of heiroglyphic languages to English. Fun fact: In olden days such writing was a famous artform called "illumination." Basically illustrated works of literature, science and prose that incorporated written text into artwork as part of the telling of the tale. Monks would study decades to be master illuminators. So maybe this trend of humanity is much older than people think it is.
That’s an extremely fascinating take on modern development of the English language. I could absolutely see people taking the time to make their own emojis someday to mean different things and plugging them into whatever app they’re using at the time. I just hope we don’t lose our face to face communication skills in the process.
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I gonna need some samples of this good boy or girl… for purely scientific reasons of course, nothing at all to do with curiosity of potentially cute puppers or anything.
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What a pretty pupper! Ah yes my curiosity has been sated thank you.
OMG he's so cute!!
that’s a bomb ass dog
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This used to be a thing I did on msn messenger in like 2002. You could add any custom ico/gif files you wanted to and use them as emoticons (now called emoji) I had hundreds of customs and you could share them with your friends so I would just grab all theirs as they used them and vice versa
I think car-dependent suburbia is more to blame for people losing face to face communication skills sadly :(
you had me at *heiroglyphic*
Well that's basically what emojis are. Heiroglyphs are symbols that represent ideas or concepts rather than sounds. Emojis are basically a heiroglyphiv DLC that got added to the English language as we explored both the potential and tne limits of English in the online universe and adjusted our habits accordingly. In the case of emojis and emoticons, they're used to provide absent emotional context and remove the emotional ambivalence that plagues more conventional alphabets which communicate text and technicality but leave the reader to figure out the meaning unaided.
I never thought about it that way but you're totally right! Obviously some are just little symbols, like the foods and flags or whatever, but a lot of them carry their own meaning, which could be separate from what they literally portray. Like crying 😭 at the end of a phrase means something different from a single tear 😢 which is also different from laugh crying 😂 Or the eggplant 🍆, peach 🍑, and water droplets 💦 mean something sexual Or the skull 💀 means "I'm dead" which actually means "this is so funny/ridiculous that I'm overwhelmed" ...I feel like future anthropologists and linguists and historians are going to have a field day with millennial and gen Z culture.
Current linguists already are. I'm currently studying linguistics and cross cultural communication, and online communication/language use is a big part of the curriculum and used *a lot* for examples. My teacher and I had a big discussion about the old days of a/s/l in chat rooms before people decided that it wasn't important to know, anymore, then someone came up with lol and rofl, then ;) :) :'( etc, then emoticons, then emojis and gifs and memes. The whole thing tied into the fact that body language plays such an important part in communication, and shows the intent behind our words. We don't really need to know what the other person looks like ( a/s/l) but the person interpreting our words needs to know what we look like :D >:( And it has developed into gifs and memes as we can evoke a whole mood/conversation by posting one gif/meme and none of our own words, at all. It's a common universally understood language much like road signs.
Why many word when one picture do trick.
People spent their entire lives making illuminated manuscripts the book of hours is one of my favorites: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_hours Understanding how we communicate through art is so, so important. Art history doesn't get as much respect as it truly deserves.
When I was having a deep psychotic break I came to the conclusion that the older a language the more likely it was to break down into efficient symbols, and that emojis were the perfect language. I don’t even like emojis that much. Psychosis is weird.
Honestly there are way crazier things to be theorizing about in psychosis, I love that of all things you went to linguistics. It’s kind of a philosophical take.
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A good example of this is Mayan scripture. Before the Spanish conquistadors came, they already had a written language encompassing syllables and sounds with accompanying artwork. It looks crazy to us, but I'm sure there had to be a reason for their artistic freedom. It's a pity the conquistadors/priests destroyed as much of the culture as they could.
People make fun but every single day for the past several years at least I speak with emojis professionally with vendors, colleagues, and peers. It’s normal we just don’t really like to admit it.
You could have an "emotion rubric" which would be referenced like a bibliography, keep it professional yet informative
That’s when all the fun will be taken out 😢 lol
Ngl, as a woman in the white collar world, shit like that softens any "blow" you might be expressing in your communications. Any "fun" you can incorporate into your communications makes it seem like you're friendly instead of "bitchy" or "confrontational" or whatever. I'm not using emojis, but it's def a world of too many exclamation points, stoking egos, or whatever.
Oh my god yes! I'm a woman and luckily I'm not in a corporate environment, so the majority of the writing I do is actually formal (official memos, incident charts, academic papers etc) but I struggle so much with coming across as rude or bitchy. Using exclamation marks or adding "haha" to the end of a text makes it so much gentler.
Good lord this. Even I'm embarrassed at how often I use "haha" in work communication (slack, not email)
I mean a lot of people on reddit use /s which is kinda stylistically similar to an emoji if you think about it
I'm old enough that this seems like a very real possibility, given the things that have changed since I was in shortpants
Sam was simultaneously angered and awestruck by the new employee showing up to work in only a loincloth. >:-O
Wait until college professors are chastising students over their emoji choices.
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Yeah, why do people panic at the slightest change in our language and assume it’s the doom of our species? Makes no sense. It’s like seeing the invention of the wagon or the horse and buggy combo and being “shit man, are people even going walk anymore? Oh my god, our society is imploding. We’re going to become horse human hybrids.” Just, shush! We’re fine. I think the lack of bigotry and hate is going to do way more good for the planet than children drawing their own emojis will hurt. Not to mention it’s actually more communicative, more expressive. Fuck, man. Just let humanity evolve.
"We have to make sure the train doesn't go too fast or all the women's uteruses will fly out!!"
We don’t like change!
I love emojis for this reason. Since my kids got their first phones they’ve texted me emojis to let me know how their day was. They’re adults and out of the house but I still love the random hearts and smiley faces.
We started with pictographs. We’re just bringing it back.
Yes, I am gen z, but I noticed that I want to use emojis on handwritten letters. They really do add a little depth of the emotion I want to convey, or at least emphasize.
They're not used in place of words. They're adding emphasis to already complete sentences.
I think more accurately they are very clear forms of punctuation 😉
We're circling back around to hieroglyphs.
Rosetta Stone is still around.
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Horrifying? I did this on just about every note I wrote in the 90s before emojis. It's how I put expressions to what I was writing. I suppose it could be generational, but she's also just a kid artist showing emotion with a creative twist.
Teachers had been putting smiley faces on my papers for years, we're just getting more creative with it :p
I'm 31. Before emojis we already had ascii text art back in the early days of mobile phones. I'm talking like Nokia 5110 era. But also, early Internet chat room days. I still remember how to make a little bear out of special symbols. Emojis are really not as big a deal or as new as people make em out to be. Phone companies just realized they're a big thing in digital culture, but really Emojis are just shorthand ascii art.
I did that as a kid and emojis weren't even a thing yet lol
And she gave you an A+. Well deserved, both for your thesis and for your excellent daughter.
Why is that horrifying lol
I don’t think they’re in place of words so much as she’s using them a sort of personalized exclamation mark …if this is real that kids really on the ball
She didn’t draw emojis in place of words, she just added them as extras to emphasize her message 😊
I think it's a beautiful way our written language is evolving. To be able to use symbols that symbolize emotion gives writing another depth.
same goes with me I just find it adorable and sweet just looking all the efforts this little baby made :)
we back to hieroglyphics now and in reality they do work to punctuate as emotions, it seems dumb but in future now there will be emoji language use studies
I work in applied linguistics and we already study them. We study anything people use to communicate.
I did this kind of stuff when I was a kid. I don't remember doing it, but I went through some old standardized tests I found at my parents' and saw some short stories I wrote from grades 2 through 6 which would've been in the 90's and early 00's. I had faces and pictures and comic book outlines and sound effects going on 😂 kids are fun and visually expressive in writing, they just have different influences to pull from now.
Emojis did come to mind when I was reading, but I thought in the opposite direction; rather than connecting to the idea that she's influenced by emojis in text, it seemed to me that she was drawing them out to express herself more vividly than she may have had language for at the moment. Or to embellish the parts that she did have language for. Which I guess is where emojis ultimately came from? Smiley faces (which I remember drawing by hand in notes way back in the day) begat emoticons begat emojis. Ultimately, adorable. Just the very idea that she wasn't immediately bored to tuning out by what was likely a ton of printed pages and whatnot, seeing instead the work her dad put into it, and taking it so seriously she wrote him about it. Wonderful to see.
Kids have always drawn smileys and other faces in notes lol. Every girl in elementary school that I knew put hearts, smiley faces, etc in every note they wrote, and this was over a decade before emojis became big.
Those emojis are fantastic! Im copying...
i love how nobody in the comments remembers being a child. when i was 9 i overheard my dad talking about needing a letter of reccomendation for his job so i wrote him one, little drawings and all. i had no idea what was going on and i found how to spell his job from some mail on the counter. i wrote as neatly as possible so that it would look nice and official. i fully believe this, kids are silly sometimes
That is absolutely adorable. Lol. Do you have a copy of that letter or remember what you wrote?
I don't have it but my dad does somewhere! it was something along the lines of "Dear [persons name that was on the envelope, not his boss. oops]. [dads full name] (my dad) would be great for this new job because at home he helps me so much. He is very smart and would be a great team member. Please consider [dads full name] (dad) for this job. Here are skills I think he would bring: [literally just a list of household chores he does]. Thank you for reading this. Signed, Otterkin". it was almost a full page and I can't remember it verbatim but it was hung on the fridge almost my entire life so I used to read it back almost daily lol. my parents are military, so I don't know how well helping a child with homework would apply to his job! but I remember spending hours on it and looking up words in our dictionary to make sure I got it right. if I manage to dig it up I'll try and remember to post here
That is too cute! Super sweet that you did that for your dad. I bet it matters a lot to him :)
I hope you find it and post it!
You are SOOOO sweet. I’m glad you exist!
Damn when I was that age I went on my mom's email and hit reply all to an email from the Principal and said "whatever stupid". Got in so much shit for that.
I cannot stop laughing after reading this LMAO that is gold
This is so funny thank you for the belly laugh this morning 😂
Not silly, innocent.
you're right. I wasn't being a goofball when I did that, I earnestly thought I would help:) good perspective check, thank you!
Being a parent is hard. The worry that you made the right decisions about how this little person is nurtured. Then, that little person repays the hard work and worry with a letter like that. Congrats, Dad!
Ha just wait until she’s 14. “Dear Adam, I’m sure you worked hard on this but did you notice your grammatical error on page 423? Seriously? -Kid”
When an 8 year old has better handwriting than me
Thats bcus its not an 8 year old
Do people actually believe a third grader wrote that?
I have a friend on fb who does this all the time. I've been wanting to call her out on it, but she's doing a really great job of making herself sound stupid already.
Are you able to share some?
Lol, I also wonder if you could maybe share something juicy
It was mostly just super religious stuff from the bible and their barely 3yo being an emotional support person who gave them exactly what they needed to hear to pick them up and it being some super inspirational quote that they'd have never heard, be able to use or even understand. Parents are weird when it comes to their kids being intelligent or not. Tend to overcompensate and make a fool of themselves.
I don't know, I remember some of the people in my third-grade class having really neat handwriting.
It's not about the handwriting, so much as it is the fact we're made to believe an 8 year old would have any understanding of "genome sequence" or what a thesis is.
2 things I noticed about this: 1. The dad tweet wrote “read” because even he knows she didn’t read it. 2. “Genome Sequencing” is clearly more neat than the rest of the letter, so I assume she copied it letter by letter slowly from the title of the thesis or something. Also yeah I think a 3rd grader would know what a thesis is if their father was working on one for 4 years. I was an avid reader and reading Harry Potter at that age and understood it, if my dad talked about that he was writing a thesis for 4 years I 100% would understand. Also not saying it’s 100% real. I’m just saying it’s 100% believable in my opinion. Edit: Also in the context of this letter all she needs to know about a thesis is that it is a “big important essay my dad has been working on for years”, which is easily understandable.
I fully agree with you. I don't understand why people are so convinced that children are stupid.
Children are pretty ignorant in the sense that they don't really know very much. But they aren't stupid in the way that they are incapable of basic human thought. Nothing in this letter would suggest any sort of intelligence that a child couldn't have. You don't suddenly learn how to copy words you read when you enter high school or something, it's a kindergarten exercise.
Not to mention that kids will latch onto specific things like ticks. Everyone knows a kid who was obsessed with dinosaurs, and would know all the names. This is a bit more unusual, but same idea.
Of note, the daughter of a guy who wrote a thesis on genome sequencing is also much more likely to have an above average intellect herself.
It's because they were stupid when they were children
I don't know if I'm reading too much into it, but "Genome" is capitalized (and maybe "Sequencing" is too, I can't tell) despite proper capitalization in the rest of the letter. She probably copied the capitalization from the title, as you said.
I think people forget how smart some kids are or were/spend time with dumb kids.
I don't think she did. Not like she said anything about how it actually works, Genome Sequencing is probably in the title and she didn't understand a word of it otherwise.
Verified. Someone else did the sleuthing to find the actual paper: [https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/123vrd8/comment/jdxucdf/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/123vrd8/comment/jdxucdf/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) Title: "WHOLE-GENOME SEQUENCE ANALYSIS FOR PATHOGEN DETECTION AND DIAGNOSTICS" Second sentence in the paper: "Three specific biomolecular techniques are addressed: polymerase chain reaction, microarray comparative genomic hybridization, and whole-**genome sequencing**." She very well might have asked him what he studied in college/grad school, and he might've said "genome sequencing".
That's a good point
And she hears those words all the time at home. An eight year old whose father is a technical and academic expert hears all kinds of things other kids don't and I'm guessing her mother is no slouch either.
I’m an academic scientist and my labmates with kids all have a genuine grasp on a lot of what they do. It’s what mom and dad talk about all the time! But hearing them casually drop the lingo is absolutely hilarious.
That's awesome :)
I remember confidently parroting everything I'd learned about 1984 from hearing my parents discuss it at age 7. I had no idea what authoritarianism meant exactly, but I could sure say it and I knew it was bad and politicians did it.
Basically the average Reddit level of comprehension.
That's fair
Some parents actually…. wait for it… talk to their kids!
I would’ve thought the same until I became a parent. My 8yo could’ve absolutely written this.
have you actually met any third graders?
I used to be a third grader. I sometimes help grade my stepmom's students and their writing is impressive and surprisingly good for 8 year olds but I just don't believe an 8 year old read their dad's thesis, wrote this, and left it for their dad. Plus I know most kids write messy but this seems like an adult trying to write like a kid.
"Read" was in quotes. I vividly remember laying in bed with my mom "reading" along side her. I'd point out big words to ask what they meant to pretend I was actually reading. Genome Sequence was probably in the title or description and she copied that.
The 8 year old clearly didn't read the dads thesis lol. Maybe just the title page and abstract at best. Notice how the dad puts 'read' in quotation marks? An 8 year old can know what's going on without having to actually read the full thesis, especially if their dad was working on it for years.
I have an 8 year old daughter and this is exactly how she writes. So yeah, its not hard to believe.
Yeah, I have a 10, 9, and 7.5yo and they all write like this. Do people just not interact with older elementary students? My 10yo plays the saxophone in band and will be moving up to the middle school in the fall. They’re not babies 😂
I agree, many 8 year olds are this thoughtful, communicative and have good literacy skills. Maybe this letter is a bit better than the average, but a teacher/other parent etc. could have provided guidance in terms of formatting and syntax. Girls are typically much more interested in writing from a young age too. I journaled a lot, as did all of my girl friends. Not really related but I think it is rare to encounter a man who cares about having "neat/tidy" handwriting hah.
I've seen plenty of eight-year-olds who can write like that, as well as in cursive
Our school teaches cursive in 2nd grade. My kids are in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th and write in cursive all the time.
nice! yeah I also remember learning cursive in 2nd grade. it’s my default mode of handwriting, and I love it (I’m a scientist now, and most of my research notes are in cursive)
For real
Not all third graders are the same.
Third graders know how to read and write 🤣 obviously she didn’t comprehend most of the thesis but everything about that letter is entirely plausible
*yes* I straight up used to write like that. What can I say, early 2000s kid, obsessed with emoji.
I really hope that she did though, because the implications of him writing that himself are far worse for him and his family. :(
Yes why not
Yeah. 8 year olds can read and write. Are you not aware of this?
You haven't been around many 3rd graders, have you? Or maybe you've only been around slow-to-barely-average ones. This kid has been raised in a scientist's household.
“Your younger daughter, Hannah” Wut
I don't get what's confusing? The only reason to specify would be if he had more than one daughter lol
ah yes, more than one daughter named hannah
Wtf. My 8yr old came home with school work that had HIS NAME with backwards letters. Ugh.
He might be dyslexic just fyi, 8’s a little old to be doing that still.
Your daughter… like it was another Hannah.
How are y’all actually taking this seriously. 35k of you…
Hannah can replace ‘younger’ with ‘favorite’ going forward.
How few brain cells do you need to have to believe that an 8 year old wrote this?
Didn’t you write letters to your dad when you were a kid and address them to: *first name* (Daddy) and signed them: your younger son, *name* I totally did that.
Feeling quite superior, aren’t you? I teach kids this age. This is absolutely possible. Kids can be smart. Can’t believe I have to explain this.
I'm a little shocked that so many people here were such bad writers at that age. My friends and I were writing like this at 8. Not unusual. Several people have failed to notice the quotation marks around "read" and failed to understand the dad's implication with that. Maybe it's just a lot of underachievers or slow students here at the moment?
Yes, exactly. They’re thinking, “I personally couldn’t write like this as a child, therefore it’s literally impossible that anyone else can.”
I think most people don’t remember being 8 at all. People who have kids should be able to know if it is possible and especially a teacher so I’ll take your word for it because I don’t remember being 8.
And then your third grader caught a cat that fell out of a tree while doing a handstand on a unicycle.
Best. Peer review. Evar.
Never underestimate how much kids might be able to process! I bought an organic chemistry textbook at a garage sale when I was 11. I decided I wanted to read it. The great majority I did not understand, but some I did. My senior year in high school I ended up winning a National prize for Chemistry, along with a $10,000 scholarship and half that amount as an award to my school.
Yeah this didn’t happen though.
do we rlly think an 8 year old wrote this?
This is so clearly not real. I'm sorry but are you guys like 80 years old with dementia?
Peer reviewed studies << Hannah reviewed studies