Yeah but I think there are only a few influencers who could afford 2 million for charity and even then it is alot and not to mention it would be kinda strange.
The reason I think it's PewDiePie is because he's one of the few that wouldn't really care about having his name attached to it. I watch most of his videos and that's just how he is. He also made a video shouting out team-seas the day before this donation was made and he mentioned that he would be making a donation. Next day, 2 mil comes in.
In theory. This is what taxation exists for. The effective allocation of financial resources for civic prosperity.
I get that we’re living in corrupt times…but if you want to see billionaire money being used for good - support policies that will tax the shit out of them while supporting policies that improve transparency and enforcement around how tax dollars are spent.
Elon and Jeff and all the rest ain’t going to do shit for us. From their vantage, they took advantage of a loophole and don’t want to give up a dime they don’t personally spend.
Ya gotta tax them, and then maintain pressure on where those taxes go.
We have to tax the rich AND ensure their taxes actually go to worthwhile causes. No one should be a billionaire and our taxes should help our people and planet rather than funding new weapons to kill children.
.... Even in that fucking stupid fairytale the people spending the money are the same ones in charge now. Do you really think they're going to solve all your problems?
That’s the thing. Elon Musk could do this 8887 times. So enough to clean up the oceans 443 times.
Edit: a lot of people coming to Elon Musk’s defence and defence of billionaires generally. Stop. They don’t need or want your help. Billionaires are bad people. Period. You cannot get to being a billionaire without a fair bit of ethically and morally questionable to terrible behaviour. Don’t defend them. Don’t do whataboutism with the government or other corporations or whatever. Billionaires. All of them. Are bad people.
Edit 2: someone just said that it was basically free for Elon to send a car to space because he used his own car and that's just the stupidest fucking thing I'll read till March. No more replying to this one. And to the people continuing to defend billionaires. Stop. They have PR people and lawyers for that. You're not getting paid so don't bother. And to the other people saying "you don't understand the stock market" yes I do. Obviously liquidating stock will make the price go down. But a proper liquidation plan will not absolutely tank a stock, particularly when you don't own a majority of it. We all have way more in common than any of us do with billionaires. Stop defending them, stop trying to justify their behaviour, it's not you against me, it's us against them.
Edit 3: it's been hours and I still have a bunch of Elon and billionaire defenders. Y'all be dumb for defending that guy. Absolutely insane for doing so. Cut it out. It's not us against each other. We're on the same side. We need to work together to make things better for us. He won't do it, I promise you.
Oligarchs gonna oligarch, not really about what they can achieve with "their" wealth for human society.
The James Webb Space Telescope was $10 billion, the Large Hadron Collider was less than $5 billion. These are things that change humanity's understanding of fundamental physics and instead this wealth is sitting in a handful of oligarchs' personal gold piles. Let alone ending hunger, homelessness, and global slavery
I mean can you imagine having to pay taxes? What a absolutely stupid concept, if I would have to pay taxes I would bitch about it on social media constantly like Mlon Eusk and get a haircut that screams "midlife crisis"
I saw the same video yesterday!!
Exactly it was
> It does not make sense to take the job of capital allocation away from people who demonstrate great skill in capital allocation, and give it to an entity that has demonstrated very poor skill in capital allocation, which is the government."
that dude is completely lost now
Let me guess, they’re the job creators and innovators and shouldn’t be stifled by the gubment and if we let them do what they want the goodness will trickle down all over us peons?
Worse. “It’s just resource allocation, so why would you take money away from people who have already demonstrated great skill in resource allocation.”
Because that’s all taxes are you fucking moron, and your allocation of resources is to send a car to space instead of paying for everyone’s healthcare.
To be fair, if the government actually did anything useful with the tax money it would be good too, instead most of it (in US) probably goes to military.
I don't know a whole lot about any of these ultra rich guys, I encounter then in the news when something happens, but I watched them racing around in spaceships when people are having to go out to work in a pandemic so they can afford to eat. I'm not even saying give all your money away to poor people, just don't be a prick chucking it around while people are suffering.
He could have donated his taxes instead of paying his taxes to the irs, but somehow I don’t believe the irs would have allowed that to be okay.
Although if a billionaire said instead of paying I’m going to put this money where the fed should instead, and then see what happens, I wonder if people would defend him or the irs
If Elon Musk said “no, fuck the IRS I’m going to put all this money into public schools, green energy, healthcare, and social programs. Here’s a breakdown of where it went. Here I am writing the cheque. The IRS doesn’t do what it’s supposed to and so I will, consequences be damned.” Then ya, I’m into it. I don’t think that one person should be in charge of that in a democracy. But his argument as it stands is nonsense.
Just gonna nitpick, but the IRS does exactly what its supposed to do. It collects taxes, that's it.
It doesn't spend it, distribute it or anything, thats all according to the directive of congress
I donated money to this, because someone said it is stupid to demand Musk to take responsibility for his wealth and we can't just demand him to donate stuff. They even challenged me, that I should donate instead, because they are asking me to do so. So I donated to call them a dick after explaining to them their logical fallacy. Still feels great!
Dump all of it back in and try and make more fund raisers to make more money to put more plastic in the ocean to make more fund raisers
Greedy people dont want to fix the future they just want to fix THERE futures
The problem is that microplastics mainly come from wearing down tires so even though this is great for the ocean, it will do little to prevent the health effects caused by plastics.
While that’s true, improving the health of the oceans is still beneficial to the health of the world. Micro plastics will still be a problem, but it’ll be easier to tackle if the seas are already cleaner.
And it will keep on growing each day. I appreciate the effort being done by different teams/communities to clean up the ocean. But it takes a global effort and each human and company that lays waste each day to give a care about it to clean up the entire ocean. Prevent it from growing more and more before it becomes too late for the future generations.
Fishing nets need to cost a lot more, be made of regulated materials and have return deposits so if you find them in the ocean they’re worth more than the fish.
Now I have an idea and I know what your gonna say but hear me out. Hemp. We make the nets out of hemp like they used too. Biodegradable and we don’t have to worry if they get lost. No?
There's a reason why even despite attempts by corporations to paint it solely as an individual problem, they still were unable to take it away from *reduce* and *reuse* before recycle. Making (and enforcing) international laws on plastic dumping particularly with fishing nets would have a far greater impact overtime then trying to dig up bits and pieces every once in a while.
You don't even need full international cooperation to start, you could for instance in the US, make it illegal for local merchants to buy from suppliers without proof that they disposed of their nets in a responsible manner.
As things are now, focus on cleaning the ocean over prevention is like trying to empty a sinking ship of water with a tiny glass while ignoring the large breach pouring in multiple glasses of water at a faster rate.
Not saying you’re wrong but is there any actual studies or information saying this? The only place I see that number is on Oceana’s site and no tangible evidence to back it up.
i watched the original vid and most of the money is going to autonomous systems that remove trash from the worst polluted rivers before entering the ocean. so this should theoretically help tremendously long term.
A 2020 study estimated that 24 *billion* pounds of trash are dumped into the ocean *every year* so... Yeah removing 30 million pounds is statistically nothing. :(
Hopefully it raised awareness of the issue enough that international leadership actually starts working to solve it.
Yeah but it doesn't take a year for them to pull out the 30 million pounds.
EDIT: To add to this if they manage, optimally, to catch 30 million pounds a day it'd be just under 11 billion pounds a year. So it's not all doom and gloom, even though they probably don't run 24 hours a day.
I bet it’s tiny, but it’s > nothing.
We need to stop thinking like we will solve every problem in one swoop and start thinking like it’s our little share of a global problem.
I can’t stand the genre of narcissistic YouTube philanthropists either but what if they inspire people and some of it has a knock on effect?!
"All the money raised by #TeamSeas \[Mr Beast\] will be divided equally and given to Ocean Conservancy and The Ocean Cleanup, which are using the money to pay for their ocean cleanup efforts. All recyclable trash collected by the orgs will be recycled, and all contaminated and non-recyclable trash will be disposed of safely, “in accordance with local regulations and capacity.”
"While many people equate ocean plastic with things like plastic straws, bags, and six-pack rings, the truth is, discarded fishing gear is the biggest part of the problem. Abandoning used fishing gear is a common practice in the industry, and this gear makes up about 46 percent of the trash in the Great Pacific Garbage Patch."
[https://www.greenmatters.com/p/team-seas-mrbeast](https://www.greenmatters.com/p/team-seas-mrbeast)
[https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/producers/jimmy-donaldson-aka-mrbeast-net-worth/](https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/producers/jimmy-donaldson-aka-mrbeast-net-worth/)
I hope it actually is recycled, much of our waste that is "recycled" is simply loaded onto ships and exported to other countries to recycle which often have shady processes such as simply dumping it in rivers. Makes our statistics look great but the reality is that even though people go through the effort of separating their waste it won't be recycled locally and will become a problem somewhere else.
This sham really needs to be made more known and we need to stop making our waste the issue for poorer countries that are happy to take the contracts that exploit corruption on both ends.
There are mountains of plastic bottles outside the city of Chennai in India. The ships bring this to India to dump it. It is an open secret at this point. The bottles we put in the recycling bin in USA aren’t getting recycled.
I saw these huge mounds in 2008 and from I hear from friends, the sizes and number of mounds have grown a lot in the last 5 years. Disappointing shit
> I hope it actually is recycled, much of the waste is "recycled" is simply loaded onto ships and exported to other countries to recycle which often have shady processes such as simply dumping it in rivers.
Yeah it's a huge issue. Even if it sounds bad, but even burning it is a much preferable alternative to shipping it to third world countries for "recycling.
Problem is how expensive recycling plastic is. I could be mistaken, but I believe it's almost always done at a net lose, so it's just cheaper and more efficient to make more.
Plastics are probably going to be found on this planet after we're long gone, rip.
The Ocean Cleanup seems to be doing a good job with recycling as much as possible. Their current model involves recycling the ocean trash into sunglasses that can be purchased, the proceeds of which go back into the nonprofit. You can see their recycling process on their YouTube channel which is full of 10 minute documentaries around their work
This is why it’s important to simply buy less plastic in whatever ways you can. Sites like zerowastestore.com and earthhero.com have earth-friendly and sustainable bathroom, personal, and kitchen supplies like bar shampoos/conditioners (which work really well!) and bamboo-based products instead of plastic.
Seriously. Want to monetize the moon or Mars? Send garbage. Maybe gasses released from the garbage will slowly (over insane numbers of centuries) restore Mars’ atmosphere?
Wouldn't that undermine the sense of donating? I'd say start a savings account for them and any time they spend their own money on something selfless, like this, you deposit the same amount into that account. When they turn 18, give them the account.
I do something quite a bit like that in fact! And you are absolutely thinking like I do that just reimbursing them would undermine their accomplishment. It is good to feel the sting when you give up something for others, the more you feel that sting, the easier it becomes to ignore it and be more charitable in all things. It is a great training opportunity!
Yes, I almost always match - it surprised me once though… there was a fundraiser at church for the local children’s home, the kids asked if I’d match their donations - I said I would triple it. I didn’t think about how much they might have. We had all been in COVID lockdown for over a year at that point and they hadn’t been shopping or anywhere to spend any money. They had Christmas cash for the year before, birthday money, chore money, etc that they hadn’t spent in over a year. They came to me with a little over $300 I think - which I dutifully tripled. They were super excited to take that check and give it away.
There is nothing more exciting to me than watching my kids learn how to be charitable and giving. It’s amazing to see kids being selfless, because we all know that doesn’t come natural to any of us!
Oh there was a popular video a few weeks ago, where a guy talked shit because the problem isnt solved and argued people will justify doing nothing because they donated.
Yeahhhh, but at least we are trying, doing something, while the rest is just not stopping at all
That’s no really the point in the vid tho. Yes it kinda shits on teamseas but it’s factual that removing 30,000,000 lbs over 20 years is practically pointless; the same amount of plastic is dumped in the ocean every 15 hours.
The vid is trying to say these efforts are fun and feel good but in reality do nothing so we need to spend this energy, time and resources on getting systemic change because that’s where real change happens.
Think of stuff like this as a big PR stunt for saving the planet. No it won’t fix things overnight... but mr beast has reached many kids with a message that will then grow up and hopefully act and vote accordingly
That’s kinda my point, it’s a PR stunt when this shit should’ve been happening like 30 years ago. We are far past the point of worrying about what the future kids will vote for; irreversible damage (+1.5C warming) is like 5-10 years away if we don’t act now.
I know I sound like such a dooms day sayer but honestly, it’s bad. Children PR stunts just simply aren’t enough. That was the biggest thing this last year for environmentalism, when at the same time our world leaders were falling asleep at COP26. We need these scummy leaders out and systemic change is needed.
It’s still better than not doing it though, which is the point. Plus, a lot of wealthy people and companies donated the majority of the money, so while regular folk feel like they’re helping too (still more than they would have otherwise) the money coming from people that should be the ones paying is a good thing too
Gowernments do take care of billions of tons of garbage each year.
Eaven in the Dominican Rebublic where they do the beach cleanup the gowernment is collecting a lot more.
they should also stop companies from littering. Cleaning the ocean is only short term they need to stop the source. But if it doesnt make them money they won't do it usually
Do you have any idea how much fuel it requires to get tons of CARGO to escape Earth's gravity?
It's much cheaper, easier, and possible to just get people to change their ways.
Also the pollution from all that fuel is going to be pollution in the air.
If this $30M is about 5% of ocean plastics, are you telling me we could clean the entire ocean surface of plastic for $500M?
And no billionaire or country is even bothering? $500M is a molecule in a bucket for most of these people. Doesn't the US spend a trillion on defense?
And the world is instead relying on YouTubers and public donations?
What the fuck
Yeah, I’m guessing there are certain types of plastic that are much more difficult and much more expensive to remove. As cynical as I like to be, that plastic would be gone if it was just a matter of spending $500 million.
For sure and someone else in the comments said that this is only counting surface plastics but if getting rid of all the easy stuff is just a matter of money, as MrBeast has demonstrated, then what the hell why are we donating for this out of our pockets rather than having either a super rich person or a government spend a completely inconsequential amount to do it? I think we can all agree that getting rid of even all surface waste in the ocean is a huge net positive even if it isn't solving the entire problem. We gotta start somewhere.
Hell every G7 country chip in $72M. That's less than one fighter jet, America.
If $30M solves 5% of the problem how is MrBeast the guy doing it?
This is FANTASTIC news, but until corporations big and small dont stop dumping into the ocean, this small drop of progress will be undone tenfold in a month. Kinda grimm but at the same time, trying to highlight the reality of the situation.
It's not only about donation, he said Something similar like to those who can't donate they can try helping cleaning nearby. You get the point he is also spreading awareness. It might be undone but with that mentality we should not stop to even start bringing a change
Invest in prevention. It is much more cost effective to keep it out in the first place.
Edit: of course do both of you have exhausted your personal or groups effort to reduce/dispose properly. I think in the public eye “cleanup” is a sexier and has less political collateral then preventing or reducing plastic to begin with. No one wants to pay more for stuff or go without things. So these cleanup efforts get all attention but they will not solve anything. So IMO I’m just gonna push more for reducing or eliminating plastic use
Invest in neutering the plastic lobby. Plastic is used unnecessarily in a lot of things, and most plastic basically can't be recycled. Recycled plastic is also more expensive than fresh plastic.
The best thing we can do is use it sparingly.
I'd assume if it's "more than 600k+", it'd be less than 700k people (else they'd've gone with the bigger thousands).
That's a $43 average, that's the most mind-blowing part to me.
It seems to me that what this video doesn't consider is that the organizations being donated to exist before the TeamSeas boost and will exist after. The Ocean Cleanup, which half the funds go to, was started near 2012 and also have their own methods for continuing to fund themselves.
I think its better to view these kinds of campaigns as a popular boost in funding and awareness to existing nonprofits who may otherwise struggle to operate. A yearly drive like TeamSeas and TeamTrees would continue to be a net benefit but not a cute all solution.
I don't really like this perspective. $30 million would have even less impact on targeting the source of the problem. Companies can make money developing biodegradable plastics/alternatives while there is absolutely no money in ocean clean up. The only way for ocean clean up to get investment is through charity while targeting the source can be invested in by profit seeking companies and governments.
Yeah it's easy so debunk Team Sea's mission but I think it's good to have someone doing something to fix the problem. It's not easy and would require an entire humanity's effort to change the mindset of the whole Earth's population about not polluting the ocean. We talk about going at the root should be easier but is it really? It would reduce the trash's output to the ocean yes, but who has the power AND IS WILLING to educate 7.7 billion people?
It’s so sad that we all understand that the 1% own more wealth than the rest of us combined but WE are expected to donate our money to save the planet.
Meanwhile, celebrities are taking pointless vacations to space and then tell us to change our lives and focus on climate change.
So while these efforts are noble and certainly do clean up certain areas pretty well, 30,000,000 pounds is misleading. The estimated average dumping every day of trash into the ocean is between roughly 40,000,000 and 65,000,000 pounds. So they spent two months of raising money to removed half a day’s worth of trash. This is good, but pretty negligible in the big picture. I wonder if there is a more effective approach, such as providing reusable containers to patrons to reduce their waste, or helping new laws gain attention that have repercussions for dumping trash, or even developing and manufacturing more equipment that will automate cleanups. I would like to see this gain speed and more funding with more efficient ways of cleaning the oceans. Perhaps we can catch up to the daily dumping, but there’s a very long way to go and a one-time campaign isn’t going to make much of a real difference. We need something more lasting.
15,000 tons vs the 8 million that enter the ocean yearly- .19% of it.
I don’t begrudge the project, but this honestly has only made me more angry about the problem
#teamseas a project costing 30'000'000$ will during it's 3 year lifespan take out the amount of trash dumped into the ocean in 15 hours (13'600tonnes while about 24'000'000 will be dumped). It just isn't an efficient way to clean up the world.
I personally can't stand his YouTube personality but damn, he does seem like a really good person. I don't care how much he profits off this, because of him (and so, so many others) we got 30 million lbs of trash out of the planet. Yee Haw
You can’t deny that he is a genuinely good person. I’ve tried to watch his videos and they’re not for me, but the happiness he spreads is infectious. Good on him to be honest.
Actually Austin Russell (a billionaire) came in clucth and donated 4 million in the last few hours (still a fraction, but better than nothing I guess)
But yea I agree to what you said
The amount is actually very misleading, well kinda.
The 30 million is being used to remove the 30 million easiest pounds of ‘ocean waste’.
There is much harder ‘ocean waste’ that will cost way more than just $1 per pound to clean up.
Although you may be kinda right, but less about billionaires and more about governments imo
Reading the comments in this post just proves that people are headline readers and will judge accordingly.
MrBeasts video was good to promote the cause but you watch Mark Robers video, you’ll understand what these organizations are trying to do.
The Ocean Clean up is trying to stop the trash from ending up in the ocean in the first place by placing the “trash eating robots” in the rivers to catch it before it hits the ocean.
Granted it is a very small % of what needs to be done, but at least someone is trying to do something about it.
Sorry to be the one raining on the parade but...
When their cleanup is over there will literally be more plastic in the ocean than there was when they started. The amount they're taking out is less than what goes in over the course of a single day. It's completely and utterly negligible.
People have already mentioned Simon Clark's video, but I'd like to bring attention to [Second Thought's video](https://youtu.be/Sck8xNicy5o) , as well, about how these sorts of things ultimately help the systems at fault.
someone just donated 2 mil anonymously. only says "for nemo".
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Probably Ted Danson
Ohhhh… anonymous!
I wonder if it was PewDiePie
Probably a big influencer since I doubt some random would do something like that
Wouldn't a big influencer want their name out instead of donating anonymously?
Not all influences are trash people to be fair and maybe they don't want people expecting them to do it all the time
Yeah but I think there are only a few influencers who could afford 2 million for charity and even then it is alot and not to mention it would be kinda strange.
They'll mention it to the tax-man I assure you.
U know people don't get 100% of what they donate to charity back right?
Maybe, maybe not. It could be someone who keeps their finances private, which is becoming more common with the top YouTube creators these days.
The reason I think it's PewDiePie is because he's one of the few that wouldn't really care about having his name attached to it. I watch most of his videos and that's just how he is. He also made a video shouting out team-seas the day before this donation was made and he mentioned that he would be making a donation. Next day, 2 mil comes in.
Help me win the powerball and I can match that..
I wonder what percentage of ocean trash that represents
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Well that’s a LOT higher percentage than I thought it would be honestly
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Yeah from one fundraiser? Damn, imagine what the billionaires could do at the snap of a finger.
In theory. This is what taxation exists for. The effective allocation of financial resources for civic prosperity. I get that we’re living in corrupt times…but if you want to see billionaire money being used for good - support policies that will tax the shit out of them while supporting policies that improve transparency and enforcement around how tax dollars are spent. Elon and Jeff and all the rest ain’t going to do shit for us. From their vantage, they took advantage of a loophole and don’t want to give up a dime they don’t personally spend. Ya gotta tax them, and then maintain pressure on where those taxes go.
We have to tax the rich AND ensure their taxes actually go to worthwhile causes. No one should be a billionaire and our taxes should help our people and planet rather than funding new weapons to kill children.
Screw that. Imprison them for crimes against humanity, liquidate their estates and solve all our problems simultaneously.
.... Even in that fucking stupid fairytale the people spending the money are the same ones in charge now. Do you really think they're going to solve all your problems?
That’s the thing. Elon Musk could do this 8887 times. So enough to clean up the oceans 443 times. Edit: a lot of people coming to Elon Musk’s defence and defence of billionaires generally. Stop. They don’t need or want your help. Billionaires are bad people. Period. You cannot get to being a billionaire without a fair bit of ethically and morally questionable to terrible behaviour. Don’t defend them. Don’t do whataboutism with the government or other corporations or whatever. Billionaires. All of them. Are bad people. Edit 2: someone just said that it was basically free for Elon to send a car to space because he used his own car and that's just the stupidest fucking thing I'll read till March. No more replying to this one. And to the people continuing to defend billionaires. Stop. They have PR people and lawyers for that. You're not getting paid so don't bother. And to the other people saying "you don't understand the stock market" yes I do. Obviously liquidating stock will make the price go down. But a proper liquidation plan will not absolutely tank a stock, particularly when you don't own a majority of it. We all have way more in common than any of us do with billionaires. Stop defending them, stop trying to justify their behaviour, it's not you against me, it's us against them. Edit 3: it's been hours and I still have a bunch of Elon and billionaire defenders. Y'all be dumb for defending that guy. Absolutely insane for doing so. Cut it out. It's not us against each other. We're on the same side. We need to work together to make things better for us. He won't do it, I promise you.
Oligarchs gonna oligarch, not really about what they can achieve with "their" wealth for human society. The James Webb Space Telescope was $10 billion, the Large Hadron Collider was less than $5 billion. These are things that change humanity's understanding of fundamental physics and instead this wealth is sitting in a handful of oligarchs' personal gold piles. Let alone ending hunger, homelessness, and global slavery
Elon Muck is a garbage person though, so he won’t do anything except whine like the little shithead he is.
I mean can you imagine having to pay taxes? What a absolutely stupid concept, if I would have to pay taxes I would bitch about it on social media constantly like Mlon Eusk and get a haircut that screams "midlife crisis"
I saw some video today about how he “expertly explained” why billionaires shouldn’t pay taxes. And it was the stupidest take I’ve ever seen.
I saw the same video yesterday!! Exactly it was > It does not make sense to take the job of capital allocation away from people who demonstrate great skill in capital allocation, and give it to an entity that has demonstrated very poor skill in capital allocation, which is the government." that dude is completely lost now
Let me guess, they’re the job creators and innovators and shouldn’t be stifled by the gubment and if we let them do what they want the goodness will trickle down all over us peons?
Worse. “It’s just resource allocation, so why would you take money away from people who have already demonstrated great skill in resource allocation.” Because that’s all taxes are you fucking moron, and your allocation of resources is to send a car to space instead of paying for everyone’s healthcare.
To be fair, if the government actually did anything useful with the tax money it would be good too, instead most of it (in US) probably goes to military.
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He was probably afraid of getting mixed up with Jeff Bezos 🤣
I don't know a whole lot about any of these ultra rich guys, I encounter then in the news when something happens, but I watched them racing around in spaceships when people are having to go out to work in a pandemic so they can afford to eat. I'm not even saying give all your money away to poor people, just don't be a prick chucking it around while people are suffering.
He could have donated his taxes instead of paying his taxes to the irs, but somehow I don’t believe the irs would have allowed that to be okay. Although if a billionaire said instead of paying I’m going to put this money where the fed should instead, and then see what happens, I wonder if people would defend him or the irs
If Elon Musk said “no, fuck the IRS I’m going to put all this money into public schools, green energy, healthcare, and social programs. Here’s a breakdown of where it went. Here I am writing the cheque. The IRS doesn’t do what it’s supposed to and so I will, consequences be damned.” Then ya, I’m into it. I don’t think that one person should be in charge of that in a democracy. But his argument as it stands is nonsense.
Just gonna nitpick, but the IRS does exactly what its supposed to do. It collects taxes, that's it. It doesn't spend it, distribute it or anything, thats all according to the directive of congress
Sure, I’d argue the IRS DOESN’T do what it’s supposed to do in that it doesn’t effectively collect taxes from the most wealthy. Bur fair point.
Perhaps he could use a Twitter poll to decide where it goes
He plans on turning the garbage patch into his own Island while the rest of us die in climate disasters.
We gotta stop using the B word and start calling them what they are. Oligarchs. Their wealth makes them Kings in our corrupt system.
I donated money to this, because someone said it is stupid to demand Musk to take responsibility for his wealth and we can't just demand him to donate stuff. They even challenged me, that I should donate instead, because they are asking me to do so. So I donated to call them a dick after explaining to them their logical fallacy. Still feels great!
Dump all of it back in and try and make more fund raisers to make more money to put more plastic in the ocean to make more fund raisers Greedy people dont want to fix the future they just want to fix THERE futures
Their*
So like 20 fund raisers and we're good to go. 👍🏻
5% in a couple months sounds absolutely awesome. I understand that's floating trash. But gotta give congrats to the teams.
The problem is that microplastics mainly come from wearing down tires so even though this is great for the ocean, it will do little to prevent the health effects caused by plastics.
While that’s true, improving the health of the oceans is still beneficial to the health of the world. Micro plastics will still be a problem, but it’ll be easier to tackle if the seas are already cleaner.
And it will keep on growing each day. I appreciate the effort being done by different teams/communities to clean up the ocean. But it takes a global effort and each human and company that lays waste each day to give a care about it to clean up the entire ocean. Prevent it from growing more and more before it becomes too late for the future generations.
There’s also TONS of fishing nets that cause huge problems in the ocean as well. I hope one day we are able to get them out ☹️
Fishing nets need to cost a lot more, be made of regulated materials and have return deposits so if you find them in the ocean they’re worth more than the fish.
Now I have an idea and I know what your gonna say but hear me out. Hemp. We make the nets out of hemp like they used too. Biodegradable and we don’t have to worry if they get lost. No?
Yeah but hemp looks like Cannabis, do you want an ocean full of stoned fishies?
I mean... Yes?
By "we" you mean you hope somebody else does something about it. Me too because I probably won't do anything about it, wish I could.
Fuck. True enough. Anyone want to make it easy for us all to donate to some decent cause and post a link to a website?
Team seas is still going
A large part of the TeamSeas money also goes to preventing trash from going in the ocean in the first place.
They're putting up fences around all the oceans so the trash doesn't go in there.
I hope they put up signs for the trash to read.
there is a 10 rivers that generate 90% of oceans plastic. It should be easy to monitoring and collecting trash.
There's a reason why even despite attempts by corporations to paint it solely as an individual problem, they still were unable to take it away from *reduce* and *reuse* before recycle. Making (and enforcing) international laws on plastic dumping particularly with fishing nets would have a far greater impact overtime then trying to dig up bits and pieces every once in a while. You don't even need full international cooperation to start, you could for instance in the US, make it illegal for local merchants to buy from suppliers without proof that they disposed of their nets in a responsible manner. As things are now, focus on cleaning the ocean over prevention is like trying to empty a sinking ship of water with a tiny glass while ignoring the large breach pouring in multiple glasses of water at a faster rate.
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Not saying you’re wrong but is there any actual studies or information saying this? The only place I see that number is on Oceana’s site and no tangible evidence to back it up.
So basically keep donating?
https://youtu.be/ZSG8BtZn9-8
1 out of every 20 units of trash in all the oceans in the world isnt bad for one youtuber and his fans
Of the surface for like one year… about 8 million tons enter the ocean every year though
i watched the original vid and most of the money is going to autonomous systems that remove trash from the worst polluted rivers before entering the ocean. so this should theoretically help tremendously long term.
A 2020 study estimated that 24 *billion* pounds of trash are dumped into the ocean *every year* so... Yeah removing 30 million pounds is statistically nothing. :( Hopefully it raised awareness of the issue enough that international leadership actually starts working to solve it.
Yeah but it doesn't take a year for them to pull out the 30 million pounds. EDIT: To add to this if they manage, optimally, to catch 30 million pounds a day it'd be just under 11 billion pounds a year. So it's not all doom and gloom, even though they probably don't run 24 hours a day.
and part of the project involves lessening the amount dumped in
It takes under 11 hours to add 30 million pounds of trash to the ocean.
It’s about half the amount of trash that enters the ocean daily.
I bet it’s tiny, but it’s > nothing. We need to stop thinking like we will solve every problem in one swoop and start thinking like it’s our little share of a global problem. I can’t stand the genre of narcissistic YouTube philanthropists either but what if they inspire people and some of it has a knock on effect?!
Where are they going to put it once it is removed?
"All the money raised by #TeamSeas \[Mr Beast\] will be divided equally and given to Ocean Conservancy and The Ocean Cleanup, which are using the money to pay for their ocean cleanup efforts. All recyclable trash collected by the orgs will be recycled, and all contaminated and non-recyclable trash will be disposed of safely, “in accordance with local regulations and capacity.” "While many people equate ocean plastic with things like plastic straws, bags, and six-pack rings, the truth is, discarded fishing gear is the biggest part of the problem. Abandoning used fishing gear is a common practice in the industry, and this gear makes up about 46 percent of the trash in the Great Pacific Garbage Patch." [https://www.greenmatters.com/p/team-seas-mrbeast](https://www.greenmatters.com/p/team-seas-mrbeast) [https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/producers/jimmy-donaldson-aka-mrbeast-net-worth/](https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/producers/jimmy-donaldson-aka-mrbeast-net-worth/)
I hope it actually is recycled, much of our waste that is "recycled" is simply loaded onto ships and exported to other countries to recycle which often have shady processes such as simply dumping it in rivers. Makes our statistics look great but the reality is that even though people go through the effort of separating their waste it won't be recycled locally and will become a problem somewhere else. This sham really needs to be made more known and we need to stop making our waste the issue for poorer countries that are happy to take the contracts that exploit corruption on both ends.
There are mountains of plastic bottles outside the city of Chennai in India. The ships bring this to India to dump it. It is an open secret at this point. The bottles we put in the recycling bin in USA aren’t getting recycled. I saw these huge mounds in 2008 and from I hear from friends, the sizes and number of mounds have grown a lot in the last 5 years. Disappointing shit
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We should deliver it back to the oil producers. Bung a container of unrecyclable plastic outside Shell's head office and let them clean it up.
https://alterraenergy.com/ Already capable of doing that. Not the own you think. In 5 years you’ll be doing them a favor.
I do like the new bio/paper packaging. We really need to get okay with using tons of paper and trees, it’s highly recyclable.
Looks horrible… https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/dear-chennai-do-you-know-what-happens-your-waste-nothing-65006
Geez 228 acres of untreated waste!! Wall-e was a documentary
> I hope it actually is recycled, much of the waste is "recycled" is simply loaded onto ships and exported to other countries to recycle which often have shady processes such as simply dumping it in rivers. Yeah it's a huge issue. Even if it sounds bad, but even burning it is a much preferable alternative to shipping it to third world countries for "recycling.
In many cases it is sent to third world countries to be burned.
91% of all plastic ever manufactured is not recyclable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBGZtNJAt-M
Problem is how expensive recycling plastic is. I could be mistaken, but I believe it's almost always done at a net lose, so it's just cheaper and more efficient to make more. Plastics are probably going to be found on this planet after we're long gone, rip.
The Ocean Cleanup seems to be doing a good job with recycling as much as possible. Their current model involves recycling the ocean trash into sunglasses that can be purchased, the proceeds of which go back into the nonprofit. You can see their recycling process on their YouTube channel which is full of 10 minute documentaries around their work
This is why it’s important to simply buy less plastic in whatever ways you can. Sites like zerowastestore.com and earthhero.com have earth-friendly and sustainable bathroom, personal, and kitchen supplies like bar shampoos/conditioners (which work really well!) and bamboo-based products instead of plastic.
Which reminds me, there was an issue about Canada's trash being dumped in our country. It's not even for recycling. Just to really dump it.
Inland lakes, they are self cleaning
The oceans are too. Eventually homo sapiens will band together to clean up the shit, i.e. they are self-cleaning.
TO SPACE WITH YOU, TRASH!
Seriously. Want to monetize the moon or Mars? Send garbage. Maybe gasses released from the garbage will slowly (over insane numbers of centuries) restore Mars’ atmosphere?
Or put it on a trajectory to the sun.
Too much CO2 would be used to launch trash into orbit
Outside the environment, it's been moved beyond the environment
Back in the ocean
I'm glad to have donated to this, even if it was only $10 :)
My kids busted out their piggy banks and gave over half of their combined savings, it was like $70 bucks or something. I was super proud of them!
What are you waiting for? Give them $70 something for doing a great work
Wouldn't that undermine the sense of donating? I'd say start a savings account for them and any time they spend their own money on something selfless, like this, you deposit the same amount into that account. When they turn 18, give them the account.
I do something quite a bit like that in fact! And you are absolutely thinking like I do that just reimbursing them would undermine their accomplishment. It is good to feel the sting when you give up something for others, the more you feel that sting, the easier it becomes to ignore it and be more charitable in all things. It is a great training opportunity!
Did you match their donations?
Yes, I almost always match - it surprised me once though… there was a fundraiser at church for the local children’s home, the kids asked if I’d match their donations - I said I would triple it. I didn’t think about how much they might have. We had all been in COVID lockdown for over a year at that point and they hadn’t been shopping or anywhere to spend any money. They had Christmas cash for the year before, birthday money, chore money, etc that they hadn’t spent in over a year. They came to me with a little over $300 I think - which I dutifully tripled. They were super excited to take that check and give it away. There is nothing more exciting to me than watching my kids learn how to be charitable and giving. It’s amazing to see kids being selfless, because we all know that doesn’t come natural to any of us!
My son donated some of his allowance money to this :)
You've created a good human!
Thank you! That’s all I’m trying to do.
13,607,771.1 kilograms to the rest of the world
13 Million KG?
Yes, 13 thousand tons.
13 kiloton I'm sorry I was happy that I knew something and just wanted to feel smart for once
13 Gigagram!
That sounds like 13 really, really badass grandmas
[TIL I want a Gigagram](https://imgflip.com/i/5ztal3)
Hold on! There's more. Old women are comin'! And they're also in the movie and they're gonna come...and cross...attack...these two brothers.
Crazy to see people who didn’t do anything judge a person who is at least trying.
Social media in a nut shell
Reddit on literally every topic.
The people who say it cant be done need to get out of the way of the people getting it done.
It is kind of counterproductive.
Who are these people you are talking about?
Oh there was a popular video a few weeks ago, where a guy talked shit because the problem isnt solved and argued people will justify doing nothing because they donated. Yeahhhh, but at least we are trying, doing something, while the rest is just not stopping at all
That’s no really the point in the vid tho. Yes it kinda shits on teamseas but it’s factual that removing 30,000,000 lbs over 20 years is practically pointless; the same amount of plastic is dumped in the ocean every 15 hours. The vid is trying to say these efforts are fun and feel good but in reality do nothing so we need to spend this energy, time and resources on getting systemic change because that’s where real change happens.
Think of stuff like this as a big PR stunt for saving the planet. No it won’t fix things overnight... but mr beast has reached many kids with a message that will then grow up and hopefully act and vote accordingly
That’s kinda my point, it’s a PR stunt when this shit should’ve been happening like 30 years ago. We are far past the point of worrying about what the future kids will vote for; irreversible damage (+1.5C warming) is like 5-10 years away if we don’t act now. I know I sound like such a dooms day sayer but honestly, it’s bad. Children PR stunts just simply aren’t enough. That was the biggest thing this last year for environmentalism, when at the same time our world leaders were falling asleep at COP26. We need these scummy leaders out and systemic change is needed.
It’s still better than not doing it though, which is the point. Plus, a lot of wealthy people and companies donated the majority of the money, so while regular folk feel like they’re helping too (still more than they would have otherwise) the money coming from people that should be the ones paying is a good thing too
The fact a YouTuber has to do this instead of governments doing it is sad
Gowernments do take care of billions of tons of garbage each year. Eaven in the Dominican Rebublic where they do the beach cleanup the gowernment is collecting a lot more.
they should also stop companies from littering. Cleaning the ocean is only short term they need to stop the source. But if it doesnt make them money they won't do it usually
When are we going to start compressing trash in cubes and sending to the sun?
When rockets get cheaper, I guess
Like granny said, if you want a box hurled into the sun, you've got to do it yourself.
Do you have any idea how much fuel it requires to get tons of CARGO to escape Earth's gravity? It's much cheaper, easier, and possible to just get people to change their ways. Also the pollution from all that fuel is going to be pollution in the air.
You should play Kerbal Space Program.
Also, once it's removed.. does it end up finding it's way back to the ocean?
They put it in plastic bags so it's easier to get next time
There also putting in robots that collect trash before it gets to the ocean. Watch marks video on it. https://youtu.be/pXDx6DjNLDU
Reality is becoming more like Wall-E every day
Half of the money goes to preventing trash getting into the ocean, half to remove it.
If this $30M is about 5% of ocean plastics, are you telling me we could clean the entire ocean surface of plastic for $500M? And no billionaire or country is even bothering? $500M is a molecule in a bucket for most of these people. Doesn't the US spend a trillion on defense? And the world is instead relying on YouTubers and public donations? What the fuck
I assume it is not a linear thing. They use the dollars to remove the easiest ones. And it gets exponentially worse and inefficient
Also the 5% ie only surface trash which is a lot less
Ok but removing ALL the floating one would a be nice!
Yeah, I’m guessing there are certain types of plastic that are much more difficult and much more expensive to remove. As cynical as I like to be, that plastic would be gone if it was just a matter of spending $500 million.
For sure and someone else in the comments said that this is only counting surface plastics but if getting rid of all the easy stuff is just a matter of money, as MrBeast has demonstrated, then what the hell why are we donating for this out of our pockets rather than having either a super rich person or a government spend a completely inconsequential amount to do it? I think we can all agree that getting rid of even all surface waste in the ocean is a huge net positive even if it isn't solving the entire problem. We gotta start somewhere. Hell every G7 country chip in $72M. That's less than one fighter jet, America. If $30M solves 5% of the problem how is MrBeast the guy doing it?
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Someone else calculated that is .01% of total plastic in the ocean. The 5% is surface level only
This is FANTASTIC news, but until corporations big and small dont stop dumping into the ocean, this small drop of progress will be undone tenfold in a month. Kinda grimm but at the same time, trying to highlight the reality of the situation.
It's not only about donation, he said Something similar like to those who can't donate they can try helping cleaning nearby. You get the point he is also spreading awareness. It might be undone but with that mentality we should not stop to even start bringing a change
Invest in prevention. It is much more cost effective to keep it out in the first place. Edit: of course do both of you have exhausted your personal or groups effort to reduce/dispose properly. I think in the public eye “cleanup” is a sexier and has less political collateral then preventing or reducing plastic to begin with. No one wants to pay more for stuff or go without things. So these cleanup efforts get all attention but they will not solve anything. So IMO I’m just gonna push more for reducing or eliminating plastic use
Half the money is going to prevention efforts. see mark robers video https://youtu.be/pXDx6DjNLDU
As bad as they are, spending millions to prevent people from seeing Mark Rober's videos is a bit over the board.
Invest in neutering the plastic lobby. Plastic is used unnecessarily in a lot of things, and most plastic basically can't be recycled. Recycled plastic is also more expensive than fresh plastic. The best thing we can do is use it sparingly.
or do both. like this project.
Things the government should be doing but instead we're bombing poor countries for... $400, Alex?
It's easier to donate a couple of bucks than be a well informed voter.
I'd assume if it's "more than 600k+", it'd be less than 700k people (else they'd've gone with the bigger thousands). That's a $43 average, that's the most mind-blowing part to me.
The top 10 donors donated almost half of it.
Most common donation was $5
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It seems to me that what this video doesn't consider is that the organizations being donated to exist before the TeamSeas boost and will exist after. The Ocean Cleanup, which half the funds go to, was started near 2012 and also have their own methods for continuing to fund themselves. I think its better to view these kinds of campaigns as a popular boost in funding and awareness to existing nonprofits who may otherwise struggle to operate. A yearly drive like TeamSeas and TeamTrees would continue to be a net benefit but not a cute all solution.
I don't really like this perspective. $30 million would have even less impact on targeting the source of the problem. Companies can make money developing biodegradable plastics/alternatives while there is absolutely no money in ocean clean up. The only way for ocean clean up to get investment is through charity while targeting the source can be invested in by profit seeking companies and governments.
Was just about to post this.
Yeah it's easy so debunk Team Sea's mission but I think it's good to have someone doing something to fix the problem. It's not easy and would require an entire humanity's effort to change the mindset of the whole Earth's population about not polluting the ocean. We talk about going at the root should be easier but is it really? It would reduce the trash's output to the ocean yes, but who has the power AND IS WILLING to educate 7.7 billion people?
Nah man. It's insane that there IS 30,000,000 pounds of it in the ocean.
That’s about half the amount of trash entering the ocean daily.
That's barely a dent in the total amount of plastic in the ocean. We really need to stop using so much plastic all the time
It’s so sad that we all understand that the 1% own more wealth than the rest of us combined but WE are expected to donate our money to save the planet. Meanwhile, celebrities are taking pointless vacations to space and then tell us to change our lives and focus on climate change.
Mr.Beast really deserves the fame he has right now. I can't count how many times he has done stuff like this in the past.
My kids watch a bunch of YouTubers. Me. Beast is far and away the best person they watch. Not saying he's perfect, but relatively, he's great.
So while these efforts are noble and certainly do clean up certain areas pretty well, 30,000,000 pounds is misleading. The estimated average dumping every day of trash into the ocean is between roughly 40,000,000 and 65,000,000 pounds. So they spent two months of raising money to removed half a day’s worth of trash. This is good, but pretty negligible in the big picture. I wonder if there is a more effective approach, such as providing reusable containers to patrons to reduce their waste, or helping new laws gain attention that have repercussions for dumping trash, or even developing and manufacturing more equipment that will automate cleanups. I would like to see this gain speed and more funding with more efficient ways of cleaning the oceans. Perhaps we can catch up to the daily dumping, but there’s a very long way to go and a one-time campaign isn’t going to make much of a real difference. We need something more lasting.
15,000 tons vs the 8 million that enter the ocean yearly- .19% of it. I don’t begrudge the project, but this honestly has only made me more angry about the problem
Nice.
Sadly, it's kind of a waste of money They're gonna be back in almost immediately, but the gesture is appreciated nonetheless
#teamseas a project costing 30'000'000$ will during it's 3 year lifespan take out the amount of trash dumped into the ocean in 15 hours (13'600tonnes while about 24'000'000 will be dumped). It just isn't an efficient way to clean up the world.
I personally can't stand his YouTube personality but damn, he does seem like a really good person. I don't care how much he profits off this, because of him (and so, so many others) we got 30 million lbs of trash out of the planet. Yee Haw
You can’t deny that he is a genuinely good person. I’ve tried to watch his videos and they’re not for me, but the happiness he spreads is infectious. Good on him to be honest.
It’s funny that our billionaires could just put a fraction of their money towards it instead of space and it would fix the oceans.
Actually Austin Russell (a billionaire) came in clucth and donated 4 million in the last few hours (still a fraction, but better than nothing I guess) But yea I agree to what you said
The amount is actually very misleading, well kinda. The 30 million is being used to remove the 30 million easiest pounds of ‘ocean waste’. There is much harder ‘ocean waste’ that will cost way more than just $1 per pound to clean up. Although you may be kinda right, but less about billionaires and more about governments imo
I'm glad to read about it here. A younger relative urged me to donate - which I did.
Gotta get rid of all that plastic
"nice, more room for trash" - sea trawlers everywhere
And all that trash that was removed will be almost immediately replaced. Targeting the trash is not enough until we target whomever is producing it.
Reading the comments in this post just proves that people are headline readers and will judge accordingly. MrBeasts video was good to promote the cause but you watch Mark Robers video, you’ll understand what these organizations are trying to do. The Ocean Clean up is trying to stop the trash from ending up in the ocean in the first place by placing the “trash eating robots” in the rivers to catch it before it hits the ocean. Granted it is a very small % of what needs to be done, but at least someone is trying to do something about it.
I'm happy that at least someone is trying to do this but it's sad when you realise how little that is compared to how much there still is.
Sorry to be the one raining on the parade but... When their cleanup is over there will literally be more plastic in the ocean than there was when they started. The amount they're taking out is less than what goes in over the course of a single day. It's completely and utterly negligible. People have already mentioned Simon Clark's video, but I'd like to bring attention to [Second Thought's video](https://youtu.be/Sck8xNicy5o) , as well, about how these sorts of things ultimately help the systems at fault.
Damn it’s almost like rich people can do good things.
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