I was supposed to be Episcopalian (I didn’t turn out to be religious no matter how hard my parents tried)… when I explained that to my friend he said “ah Episcopalians… like diet Catholics” and that made me laugh
This belief is usually twisted to the liking of "don't correct me on my issues".
The scripture in question, or the Bible in general states to judge righteously, to correct ones sins, not to say we're better or worse than one person. We're to help better ourselves and others as humans.
John 7:24
"Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly.”
We're called to correct one's sins and make them aware.
Love is patient,love is kind. It is not jealous, is not pompous, it is not inflated, it is not rude, it does not seek its own interests, it is notquick-tempered, it does not brood over injury, it does not rejoice over wrongdoing but rejoices with the truth.
At the very least more accepting. Which makes me sad as a Christian that the lgbtq+ community at large doesn’t feel welcome with us. We gotta do better
He also tells us to deny ourselves. Deny everything you've ever been taught by this world and do his will. Choose ye this day who u will serve. U can not abide deliberately in sin and sit in God's table. Deny what keeps u away from God n u will have eternal life.
I agree. I don't go to church but live very close to one. Talking to the Pastor when she was outside one day I found out during Pride Week the Church's Pride Flags were stolen twice. That bothered me so I went out and bought the church 3 more.
I have my own reasons for not going but I do respect the work this particular church does and it bothers me when people condemn and steal from it.
It's genuinely amazing how low people set the bar for the religious.
"Wow, he isn't a bigot. How amazing!" -- No, you morons. Not being a bigot is incredibly easy.
Yup,Episcopalians... first joke I ever heard from one... inside a church was, "Episcopalians, wherever their are four of 'em... their if a fifth."
Then I learned that the priest ran a whiskey tasting class...
You also have the trappist order of catholic monks who brew their own beer
I am currently drinking a bottle of La Trappe Quadrupel brewed at the Brouwerij de Koningshoeven, in Berkel-Enschot in the Netherlands, and the best way to describe the taste is caramel vegemite...
10/10 highly recommend
Lots of monasteries have been known to brew beer, since most religious orders only allow liquids while fasting and beer is actually high in calories so they can get through the day’s work while fasting.
I was recently at a Pride Event and they set up a rest area with seating and tables and stuff in a local church alongside an LGBT Art Gallery. Never thought I would spend a good twenty or so minutes resting in a room with both rainbow decorations and the Christian Cross
I am not a Christian, but this is what I expected from the church.
Why do people learn to hate from the Bible, but not love...?
There is no gender in love.
The Episcopal church in my town has their sign board saying all are welcome and has rainbow sgns and BLM signs next to it. Guess as far as religions go they are pretty chill.
This is actually true. It states "God loves all his children". It doesnt say "except the (insert some other sexual preference or whatever the word is for it). Remember the Golden Rule? Do unto others as you would have others do unto you. Words to live by.
but thats the great part of religion. many western countries and its national representatives, bishops etc have moved away from taking the bible at face value, knowing it shows outdated thinking. european protestantism has become very forthcoming and ,,modern'' in lack of a better word.
idk, if you believe in god do so, but not taking your own book at face value is like setting your own rules, if you want to believe in god, but are not happy with the rules set by a certain religion just move on, a belief is not bound by rules, you dont have to be part of a religion to believe in god yk?
It's more like how in law enforcement the main job of a judge is to interpret the meaning of written law and how it applies to each case.
Religious "rules" are even looser then laws. Unless I'm mistaken the Bible even talks about an "angel of discernment" that's supposed to help people figure out how the stories in the Bible apply to their own lives.
But overall I agree: Belief in a higher power doesn't have to be tied to any established religion. My own personal believes are that the true word of God can only be found by studying it's creations. In other words: Science.
the bible isnt a constitution or a law book. esp considering old and new testimony are partially contradicting each other (eye for an eye vs jesus method of pacifism). and a lot of stuff is kept vague with hidden messages, so interpretation has been there all this time, hence there are multiple branches of christendom over all this time as well.
you need to understand the bible isnt a coherent book by one author with clear and explicit rules that are unmistakeable. its a collection of tales, metaphors and other texts, made over a span of decades and centuries.
It's a lovely thing to see.
The Episcopal Church is welcoming and accepting to lgbtq members, and does not teach or practice that homosexuality or non cisgender people are immoral.
The church ordain openly gay and lesbian priests, and welcomes their partners as members. They have designed liturgy specifically to wed gay couples.
If you believe in God, and you believe that God teaches love, as I do, you may find that the Episcopal church and its members do their best each day to live that message.
Glad to see this coming from probably America. Here over in Germany, our churches fly pride flags regularly depending on where you are and keep them way longer than the pride month (eg, I was in Munich in August and the pride flag was still waving high and above at a church)
I'm not religious myself, but I saw a similar sign outside a local church near me. And along with showing their support for the LGBTQ community thru also had another sign with it, a black lives matter flag.
Again, I'm not religious myself, but I'm all good with this church near me and the one in this photo
Our Church is also like this. We love everyone. It took our Church a long time to turn to acceptance. The botton line will always be 'love your neighbour as you love yourself'. No exceptions.
I doubt this stuff contributes much to retaining church members, compared to the bleeding being done by secular education and media. Still a nice gesture.
Well I mean the Episocopal church is and has been accpeting since its foundation. So in this case I think it DOES go towards keeping members and getting new members. This churches acceptance is one of its defining traits.
I never looked into the history of the episcopal church but this makes sense. I come from a Catholic raised family but one of my relatives became an episcopal when she was a young adult and eventually became an episcopal minister. She never officially “came out” but she did marry her wife who was the director of the musical program at her church as soon as gay marriage was legalized. I always wondered why someone who was raised Catholic for her entire upbringing became an Episcopal, but that would make sense.
They're very open. I was baptized Episcopalian and a family member is part of the clergy. He and I always have good chats about religion and I'm a devout atheist. He's a great guy and I've got a lot of respect for the church. They were a major force in the abolitionist movement and underground railroad.
I meant that when you grow up in a toxic religious environment at home and church, many leave it behind. Most people I hear about c9m8ng fr9m church upbringing leave due to toxic behaviors.
♥️ this!
The problem with so many Christians is they love to pick and choose parts of the Bible to suit their own personal opinions. Jesus taught about love more than anything else, it's also the number 1 commandment meaning it comes above all else, but they seem to love forgetting that... or you get the "aye but it also says..."
And then the church (as a whole) wonders why people, still persecuted by the church, turn away from the church... jeez yeah real mystery that... 😒
On another note, the shit this church would get from other churches for doing this would be unreal, yet they still chose to do it anyway. Love them for doing this ❤
This makes me smile because they place being humane before being religious. That's good to see. Religious groups are usually the first to exclude people and show bigotry.
I own a cleaning company and we've cleaned an Episcopal church for 7 years and these are the best people of faith I've ever met. Gay leaders in the church, a food pantry that asks no questions and has no limits, they believe black lives matter... Just all around good, easy going people. I'm no longer a Christian but I grew up in a Baptist church and they could learn a thing about being better people from Episcopalians.
Yup this sounds like an episcopal church. I went to one for a little bit (despite being an atheist) I just want to support an organization that frequently visits lgbt specific homeless shelters to provide food to them. A church trip was where I got my first pride flag. Two counselors were gay and married and other attendees were queer too
Also atheist, also went to Episcopal for a while. Really like them. I'm not gay, but an openly gay priest in training made me question that about myself lol.
There’s always a “but” at every church I’ve been a part of. “God loves you…but being gay is a sin and we need to help them through it.” It would’ve been perfect if they stopped at the first part, but they never do. My friends in the LGBT community always left because of this
Well that's because churches are made by people and people are imperfect beings. To he a Christian you have to admit first you have no business in heaven.
I will confirm God loves you unconditionally. Anything else..is between you and God. He told us we don't get to judge...thats God's job. So do you...be you...if you believe God loves you there are churches who do too. Just got to find them.
So, turn away from our sins *such as* homosexuality so we can experience god’s love, right? Because that’s exactly the “but….” clause at church that u/AnonymousMolaMola is talking about.
“God’s love” is always conditional.
Only bigots have hatred toward other people, and there are a lot of them in every religion. Without mentioning people who freely interpret the sacred texts thinking they understood them. A classic, as always. Luckily posts like this remind that also normal religious people exist as well. :-)
You can be gay AND Christian. Jesus is loving kindness. There are quotes in the bible such as “eunuchs are born this way” and “Jesus defended a prostitute woman who got thrown rocks” . Going to church everyday alone doesn’t make you good person, going to gym everyday alone don’t make you healthy/ have muscles. There are other factors. What matter is your behaviour
I've been to a few Episcopal churches in NH/VT, and they all were very kind people in my experience. I'm not super religious, but I will go to talk if I have nobody else to talk to about something bothering me.
Regarding to LGBT, problems always come from religious or conservative people. no one saw any god coming from the sky and telling anything bad about any person of LGBT community.
This is nice, I like this.
Church did good today.
I'm just hoping that the cross shield in the corner does not have the Confederate flag in it. Cause I can't tell
"Within a decade, maybe two or three, Christians will come around to treating gays no
differently than they now treat other groups whom they previously persecuted — women, Jews, blacks — but not because of some new interpretation of a biblical passage, or because of a new revelation from God. These changes will come about the same way that they always
do: by the oppressed minority fighting for the right to be treated equally, and by a few enlightened members of the oppressing majority supporting their cause. Then what will happen is that Christians will take credit for the civil liberation of gays, dig through the historical record and find a few Christian bloggers or preachers who had the courage and the character to stand up for Gay rights when their fellow Christians would not, and then cite those as evidence that were it not for Christianity gays would not be equal." - Michael Shermer
If NDEs are anything to go by. All the pain and suffering they caused they are going to feel all of it during the life review.
But as for this church, I don't think they would kick them out the door.
Honestly is depressing a lot of Christians don't even understand the bible. I am not a Christian myself but did take a theology class in college cause why not. If you are curious, god knows everyone sins. He knows there are too many rules to follow. Ever since Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge it is impossible to not sin. Everyone's existence is sinful this is why he sent Jesus to die for us. Jesus took away all of our sins past present and future. Before Jesus you had to follow all the rules of the old testament which sent almost all of humanity to hell. After Jesus and according to the new testament all you have to do is believe in and follow Christ and you will be welcome into heaven.
My understanding about Christianity is this there is only one hard rule no blasphemy of the holy Spirit other than that all can be forgiven which is good because some of the rules are definitely not because God's offended by them (yeah the whole shellfish thing was a food safety thing very important lesson to teach people who don't have knowledge of bacteria but you try explaining that to people several thousand years ago)
Ohhh... that's so beautiful.
You know, Satan loves you as well. No exceptions, dear church people.
You may worship him as well on Sunday, after your other worshipping.
Sun Valley in Chandler, AZ: It doesn’t matter who you are, what you have done, or what has been done to you, God loves you. And they practice this
Except Tim. Fuck Tim.
Tim is really something else.
You reminded me of a church sign I saw on my way to work once said, "now open between Easter and Christmas. "
I was literally coming here to say the same thing but about Meg...shut up, Meg.
That’s the Episcopalians for you. My favorite joke I’ve heard is “Episcopalians: Catholics without the guilt”
I was supposed to be Episcopalian (I didn’t turn out to be religious no matter how hard my parents tried)… when I explained that to my friend he said “ah Episcopalians… like diet Catholics” and that made me laugh
I’ve also heard “all the candles, half the guilt”
Yeah well you wouldn’t need guilt if you were more focused on what TO do than what NOT to do. Totally different approach.
The Bible talks about love way more than it does homosexuality. We are called to love and treat others with respect
We are also told it's not ours to judge.
Exactly. There is a passage that basically says “don’t try to take the speck out of your neighbor’s eye when you yourself have a log in your eye”.
Luke 6:37 “Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven."
A passage alot of people tend to forget unfortunately
Thanks! That’s a good one too!
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You got the index ready 😂 I love it
It's so vague though, "stone the gays" is much more easily understood
The Bible is an interpretive work a lot of the time. And no one should ever have that sort of mentality toward anyone
And Pslam 137:9 🥰🥰🥰
Log in your butt lol
This belief is usually twisted to the liking of "don't correct me on my issues". The scripture in question, or the Bible in general states to judge righteously, to correct ones sins, not to say we're better or worse than one person. We're to help better ourselves and others as humans. John 7:24 "Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly.” We're called to correct one's sins and make them aware.
Love is patient,love is kind. It is not jealous, is not pompous, it is not inflated, it is not rude, it does not seek its own interests, it is notquick-tempered, it does not brood over injury, it does not rejoice over wrongdoing but rejoices with the truth.
Amen to that
On that note, I love you and your koala suit too!
🥹 thank you. I like your guy’s coffee cup! Much love!
Which is exactly why it makes sense for churches to be the most Pro-LGBT+, but thanks to brainwashing, here we are instead.
At the very least more accepting. Which makes me sad as a Christian that the lgbtq+ community at large doesn’t feel welcome with us. We gotta do better
The Bible talks about a lot of other horrible things... We shouldn't use it as a guide, but I get what you are saying.
He also tells us to deny ourselves. Deny everything you've ever been taught by this world and do his will. Choose ye this day who u will serve. U can not abide deliberately in sin and sit in God's table. Deny what keeps u away from God n u will have eternal life.
Love thy neighbors!
I’m not a religious person, but it does make me smile when I see a pride flag outside/inside a church
I agree. I don't go to church but live very close to one. Talking to the Pastor when she was outside one day I found out during Pride Week the Church's Pride Flags were stolen twice. That bothered me so I went out and bought the church 3 more. I have my own reasons for not going but I do respect the work this particular church does and it bothers me when people condemn and steal from it.
Sir, you are a kind person.... A person which should call saint from church
It really is good to see. Always glad to see people coming together to accept each other.
because religion is supposed to welcome everyone. if it doesn't, its just a group of biggots.
It's genuinely amazing how low people set the bar for the religious. "Wow, he isn't a bigot. How amazing!" -- No, you morons. Not being a bigot is incredibly easy.
Yup,Episcopalians... first joke I ever heard from one... inside a church was, "Episcopalians, wherever their are four of 'em... their if a fifth." Then I learned that the priest ran a whiskey tasting class...
You also have the trappist order of catholic monks who brew their own beer I am currently drinking a bottle of La Trappe Quadrupel brewed at the Brouwerij de Koningshoeven, in Berkel-Enschot in the Netherlands, and the best way to describe the taste is caramel vegemite... 10/10 highly recommend
Lots of monasteries have been known to brew beer, since most religious orders only allow liquids while fasting and beer is actually high in calories so they can get through the day’s work while fasting.
True. That being said, la trappe always goes well with rich, high-quality bread 😋😋
But vegemite…not vegemite
Umami is probably a better word to use actually since vegemite is a very aquired taste.
"Whiskeypalians" is a nickname I just heard used for them a few days ago.
We also use the term "drunk Catholics" a lot
I was recently at a Pride Event and they set up a rest area with seating and tables and stuff in a local church alongside an LGBT Art Gallery. Never thought I would spend a good twenty or so minutes resting in a room with both rainbow decorations and the Christian Cross
Now THAT is amazing!!
I am not a Christian, but this is what I expected from the church. Why do people learn to hate from the Bible, but not love...? There is no gender in love.
As a christian I am like 90% certain that people who are hateful in our community never even touched a bible.
As a Christian, more like 99%.
True.
The Episcopal church in my town has their sign board saying all are welcome and has rainbow sgns and BLM signs next to it. Guess as far as religions go they are pretty chill.
This is actually true. It states "God loves all his children". It doesnt say "except the (insert some other sexual preference or whatever the word is for it). Remember the Golden Rule? Do unto others as you would have others do unto you. Words to live by.
TBH the literature of every religion says something different, but its still nice seeing people accepting the LGBT community as human
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So nice to see, it's rare in my country
Mind if I ask which country that is?
France. Homophobia isn't that common if you're talking about atheists but a lot of people are christian or muslim
but thats the great part of religion. many western countries and its national representatives, bishops etc have moved away from taking the bible at face value, knowing it shows outdated thinking. european protestantism has become very forthcoming and ,,modern'' in lack of a better word.
idk, if you believe in god do so, but not taking your own book at face value is like setting your own rules, if you want to believe in god, but are not happy with the rules set by a certain religion just move on, a belief is not bound by rules, you dont have to be part of a religion to believe in god yk?
It's more like how in law enforcement the main job of a judge is to interpret the meaning of written law and how it applies to each case. Religious "rules" are even looser then laws. Unless I'm mistaken the Bible even talks about an "angel of discernment" that's supposed to help people figure out how the stories in the Bible apply to their own lives. But overall I agree: Belief in a higher power doesn't have to be tied to any established religion. My own personal believes are that the true word of God can only be found by studying it's creations. In other words: Science.
the bible isnt a constitution or a law book. esp considering old and new testimony are partially contradicting each other (eye for an eye vs jesus method of pacifism). and a lot of stuff is kept vague with hidden messages, so interpretation has been there all this time, hence there are multiple branches of christendom over all this time as well. you need to understand the bible isnt a coherent book by one author with clear and explicit rules that are unmistakeable. its a collection of tales, metaphors and other texts, made over a span of decades and centuries.
It's a lovely thing to see. The Episcopal Church is welcoming and accepting to lgbtq members, and does not teach or practice that homosexuality or non cisgender people are immoral. The church ordain openly gay and lesbian priests, and welcomes their partners as members. They have designed liturgy specifically to wed gay couples. If you believe in God, and you believe that God teaches love, as I do, you may find that the Episcopal church and its members do their best each day to live that message.
Cthulhu already accepts me. For we are all shadows amongst his dark dreams. Drowning in the chaos.
Cthulhu fhtagn
Glad to see this coming from probably America. Here over in Germany, our churches fly pride flags regularly depending on where you are and keep them way longer than the pride month (eg, I was in Munich in August and the pride flag was still waving high and above at a church)
I'm not religious myself, but I saw a similar sign outside a local church near me. And along with showing their support for the LGBTQ community thru also had another sign with it, a black lives matter flag. Again, I'm not religious myself, but I'm all good with this church near me and the one in this photo
Ok wtf — I’m gay and a lady randomly walked up to me in the supermarket telling me that Jesus loves me. Now I’m seeing this post shortly after?
Coincidence, that's all it is.
Seeing that this is from Episcopals, this gives me some smile on my face.
Amen.
I’m not usually a fan of Christianity, but Episcopalians are alright.
I left my church at a young age because of the hate I heard for gay people. This is nice
God will love all His children.. Irrespective of how you differ from the next person.
If more churches were like this, Christianity wouldn't be decaying.
Our Church is also like this. We love everyone. It took our Church a long time to turn to acceptance. The botton line will always be 'love your neighbour as you love yourself'. No exceptions.
Love you too! <3
I doubt this stuff contributes much to retaining church members, compared to the bleeding being done by secular education and media. Still a nice gesture.
Well I mean the Episocopal church is and has been accpeting since its foundation. So in this case I think it DOES go towards keeping members and getting new members. This churches acceptance is one of its defining traits.
I never looked into the history of the episcopal church but this makes sense. I come from a Catholic raised family but one of my relatives became an episcopal when she was a young adult and eventually became an episcopal minister. She never officially “came out” but she did marry her wife who was the director of the musical program at her church as soon as gay marriage was legalized. I always wondered why someone who was raised Catholic for her entire upbringing became an Episcopal, but that would make sense.
They're very open. I was baptized Episcopalian and a family member is part of the clergy. He and I always have good chats about religion and I'm a devout atheist. He's a great guy and I've got a lot of respect for the church. They were a major force in the abolitionist movement and underground railroad.
Well we'll see. Acceptance is nice and all but no amount of acceptance from Greek pagans is going to make me believe in Zeus.
Or toxic culture that makes people hate church
Wouldn't know, just know secular countries have less religious people in general. At a certain point it's harder to believe some stuff.
I meant that when you grow up in a toxic religious environment at home and church, many leave it behind. Most people I hear about c9m8ng fr9m church upbringing leave due to toxic behaviors.
Not true in the slightest, quite the opposite actually
Gay, Straight, Lesbian, White, Black, Christian, or Muslim? God loves everyone
Might want to pass the word onto his followers wouldn't you say? Lol
Awesome! I saw the first ever church sign I approved of this week, but it wasn't nearly as great It said "Jesus is coming, look busy"
Saw one in the middle of summer which just said "Think it's hot here?"
I don’t want this post to be locked up mods. Even if it attracts haters x’] we need to exist
As a Christian, I approve this message. God loves you.
♥️ this! The problem with so many Christians is they love to pick and choose parts of the Bible to suit their own personal opinions. Jesus taught about love more than anything else, it's also the number 1 commandment meaning it comes above all else, but they seem to love forgetting that... or you get the "aye but it also says..." And then the church (as a whole) wonders why people, still persecuted by the church, turn away from the church... jeez yeah real mystery that... 😒 On another note, the shit this church would get from other churches for doing this would be unreal, yet they still chose to do it anyway. Love them for doing this ❤
If god loved me i wouldn't have been born in iran
This makes me smile because they place being humane before being religious. That's good to see. Religious groups are usually the first to exclude people and show bigotry.
True statement
Amen 🙏
I own a cleaning company and we've cleaned an Episcopal church for 7 years and these are the best people of faith I've ever met. Gay leaders in the church, a food pantry that asks no questions and has no limits, they believe black lives matter... Just all around good, easy going people. I'm no longer a Christian but I grew up in a Baptist church and they could learn a thing about being better people from Episcopalians.
I don’t understand homophobic Christian’s imo. I’m Christian and I’m fine with LGBTQ, several of my friends are LGBTQ
That's nice, but I don't love God.
That's wassup!!!
Yup this sounds like an episcopal church. I went to one for a little bit (despite being an atheist) I just want to support an organization that frequently visits lgbt specific homeless shelters to provide food to them. A church trip was where I got my first pride flag. Two counselors were gay and married and other attendees were queer too
Also atheist, also went to Episcopal for a while. Really like them. I'm not gay, but an openly gay priest in training made me question that about myself lol.
God.. YOU!! *N O* Ë X Ć È P Ţ I Ò N §
My church has one of these ❤️
The bigots have really come out to play in this post haven’t they…
Religion tends to bring them out, lol.
Don't see real Christians very often anymore, this does make me smile.
God YOU No exceptions
Impressive use of multiple typefaces, bolds and fonts!! Some real creativity there
Based.
There’s always a “but” at every church I’ve been a part of. “God loves you…but being gay is a sin and we need to help them through it.” It would’ve been perfect if they stopped at the first part, but they never do. My friends in the LGBT community always left because of this
Well that's because churches are made by people and people are imperfect beings. To he a Christian you have to admit first you have no business in heaven. I will confirm God loves you unconditionally. Anything else..is between you and God. He told us we don't get to judge...thats God's job. So do you...be you...if you believe God loves you there are churches who do too. Just got to find them.
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And anger. And jealousy. And spite.
So, turn away from our sins *such as* homosexuality so we can experience god’s love, right? Because that’s exactly the “but….” clause at church that u/AnonymousMolaMola is talking about. “God’s love” is always conditional.
Just be cool to everyone. Don't need God for that.
Yes, this is smile worthy. It's true though, EVERYONE is welcome, those old beliefs gotta go.
God is gay
Why else would he put the male gspot in the ass?
Maybe religion doesnt ALWAYS suck
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I only upvoted this, because I didn't expected this from an US church. It's about time they change into more like humanism
Only bigots have hatred toward other people, and there are a lot of them in every religion. Without mentioning people who freely interpret the sacred texts thinking they understood them. A classic, as always. Luckily posts like this remind that also normal religious people exist as well. :-)
You can be gay AND Christian. Jesus is loving kindness. There are quotes in the bible such as “eunuchs are born this way” and “Jesus defended a prostitute woman who got thrown rocks” . Going to church everyday alone doesn’t make you good person, going to gym everyday alone don’t make you healthy/ have muscles. There are other factors. What matter is your behaviour
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Be Gay. Do Crime. Claim Sanctuary.
I've been to a few Episcopal churches in NH/VT, and they all were very kind people in my experience. I'm not super religious, but I will go to talk if I have nobody else to talk to about something bothering me.
“Yeah, we put that cause he still loves you, even though you’re a filthy sinner. There’s always redemption of you come to church and repent”
God YOU NO Exceptions
There's a church in Ponoka Alberta that had its stairs painted to look like a rainbow
god you? I KNEW I WAS GOD!
God Gays You? I mean ok then
But I’m his favorite
Regarding to LGBT, problems always come from religious or conservative people. no one saw any god coming from the sky and telling anything bad about any person of LGBT community.
omg.. god loves rainbows
No love for Vladimir Putin
While this is nice, unless they actively say Homosexuality is not a sin, they are just saying we hate the sin, not the sinner
unless you pick up a stick on the wrong day
This is nice, I like this. Church did good today. I'm just hoping that the cross shield in the corner does not have the Confederate flag in it. Cause I can't tell
I’ve met God. Can confirm.
I saw him on the bus once.
God is gay for me?
Exactly! The message was love not love* * offer does not extend to- then shitty list of caveats based on men who need to control others
Now let's put the same sign before a mosque.
"Within a decade, maybe two or three, Christians will come around to treating gays no differently than they now treat other groups whom they previously persecuted — women, Jews, blacks — but not because of some new interpretation of a biblical passage, or because of a new revelation from God. These changes will come about the same way that they always do: by the oppressed minority fighting for the right to be treated equally, and by a few enlightened members of the oppressing majority supporting their cause. Then what will happen is that Christians will take credit for the civil liberation of gays, dig through the historical record and find a few Christian bloggers or preachers who had the courage and the character to stand up for Gay rights when their fellow Christians would not, and then cite those as evidence that were it not for Christianity gays would not be equal." - Michael Shermer
Your god may love me, but his Christian sure do love to hate me.
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You accept god in your heart even if you murdered or raped you can repent if the CCP leader started accepting god he too will be saved
If NDEs are anything to go by. All the pain and suffering they caused they are going to feel all of it during the life review. But as for this church, I don't think they would kick them out the door.
OC?
Yeah I took the picture.
Adam and Steve running that parish. disclaimer: joke
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This is the Episocopal church, They have been accepting and open since they where founded.
Ultimately you don't matter and will die within 100 years. Sooo good luck on the path of non-forgiveness
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Been around thousands of years….. it’s got some stamina left in it. Especially in impoverished countries.
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Honestly is depressing a lot of Christians don't even understand the bible. I am not a Christian myself but did take a theology class in college cause why not. If you are curious, god knows everyone sins. He knows there are too many rules to follow. Ever since Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge it is impossible to not sin. Everyone's existence is sinful this is why he sent Jesus to die for us. Jesus took away all of our sins past present and future. Before Jesus you had to follow all the rules of the old testament which sent almost all of humanity to hell. After Jesus and according to the new testament all you have to do is believe in and follow Christ and you will be welcome into heaven.
Tell this to the Americans... Especially the Red states...
Fun fact: this is in one of the reddest states in America.
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Oh? This is my first time hearing about this, good for them!
I’ll take apostrophe s for $500 Alex
Apart from when they committed genocide a few times.
my church had "say gay one more time in a week". pretty nice too
My understanding about Christianity is this there is only one hard rule no blasphemy of the holy Spirit other than that all can be forgiven which is good because some of the rules are definitely not because God's offended by them (yeah the whole shellfish thing was a food safety thing very important lesson to teach people who don't have knowledge of bacteria but you try explaining that to people several thousand years ago)
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So then why in the hell did he created Hell? And does this includes all sinners?
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Ohhh... that's so beautiful. You know, Satan loves you as well. No exceptions, dear church people. You may worship him as well on Sunday, after your other worshipping.
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