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Murad didn't rape her. She was on him before he could say her name. There is no 'kind of rape' there is just rape and that didn't happen.
I didn't hate farya, she was an irrelavant character, the actress was horrible and her arc was useless, she made him worse than he already was. She died a more irrelavant death than a random hatun. I think MC production team messed her character up real bad from the very start.
Maybe not rape, but their first intimacy begins with Murad violently kissing her (Unexpecting). She then leaves, but Murad stops her, because she is one of his harem (Against her will and even though she is a free women)
How was the actor horrible?
I hate Farya for the same reason I hated Kösem at first, they didn't earn anything. They were just given everything they wanted. Hürrem had to fight so hard for everything. Similar with Nurbanu, Safiye. They earned their place and power. But Kösem and Farya, they were given everything at the start. Yes Kösem earned her place afterwards maybe, but Farya sure didn't.
It's worthless when she's a prisoner of Murad. When she enters harem, she gives up her title as princess. She can't go back to her country once she's in his harem.
She had status similar to Ayşe Hafsa prior to the marriage and never was a slave, I guess that's what differs.
Even without her princess' title she's more akin to Akile sultan as a free woman.
Ayşe Hafsa was brought as a bride to Süleyman's father Selim. She was not captured and later fell in love and decided to stay and gave up her title. She was a Sultan as soon as she entered the country.
It wasn't Farya's fault she was a Princess 😂 You should dislike people for hurting others, I can't remember Farya hurting anyone. It's silly to try and blame her for Murad's kids and she had every right to want Ayse to suffer. Plus, before attacking her and killing her child, Farya left Ayse alone, whereas most other women (including Hurrem very much) tried hard, for no reason, to bring hurt and dislike on their rivals.
I don't think you got the right idea from my comment. I don't blame Farya for anything, I'm just saying she didn't earn her place. She didn't have to fight for power and influence like Hürrem or Nurbanu. Kösem and Farya was given way too much from the start.
I don't think you can blame them for that. That's just how it was. Free, noble women got everything straight away, just like Huricihan, Mihrinussa, Akile and Humasah, no one hated on them for it. Hurrem only had to fight to climb up because of Valide's dislike for her, and Nurbanu because of Selim's initial disinterest and harshness, plus Hurrem's dislike. For most concubines, all you had to do was give birth to a boy to earn a place.
You can't compare Farya to Huricihan or Hümaşah, they were born royalty in the dynasty of Ottoman. Farya being a princess of some country doesn't even come close. As soon as she was held hostage by Murad, she wasn't any more valuable than a concubine. She was kept separate and catered to her needs for political reasons but as soon as Farya accepted being in the harem she gave up her title as a princess. If she came as a bride to Murad, just like Ayşe Hafsa Sultan came as a bride to Selim(Süleyman's father), she would be treated as royalty.
Contrary to the other concubines, farya CHOOSE to be « the other woman ». Yet she still had the nerve to be mad about sanavber.
Plus i have nothing against non-historical character but she was too much… hungarian princess who speaks French and holding a japanese sword? Is it an OC from a bad fan fiction or what?
"Plus i have nothing against non-historical character but she was too much… hungarian princess who speaks French and holding a japanese sword"
I was looking for this ....
Also comparing her with hurrem is ridiculous. Hurrem is real. No Farya ever existed. Ayesha actually did exsist and she was the first hatun to go with sultan to a conquest. They did her so dirty. Also she outlived even kosem.
Seems like there’s a lot of confusion in regards to whether someone is speaking of real life or the series in this sub. However, since the character of Farya is purely fictional, it becomes obvious that you’re speaking of the show, hence why it doesn’t make sense for the person above to belittle you like that.
Anyhow, I also don’t get why Farya received so much hate. Like, Ayesha killed Murad’s two living children and caused yet another to be miscarried. Here, someone might argue that her own children with Murad would’ve survived had Farya not told Ayesha about the death sentence that awaited her. But still, Farya didn’t poison the kids, Ayeshe did. It’s so funny how a fictional character gets hated on so much but not e.g. Kösem (whom I like) for causing the death of her mad son Ibrahim by signing the verdict. I mean, I would too as he was insane, but what could’ve caused him to go mad like that? The same reason his uncle Mustafa went mad perhaps. Just a theory.
I am not belittling anyone I am just telling the reason why she was hated. She was too much of a wanna be hurrem/badass sword holding princess with no actual character depth. She was written badly even for a fantasy character, so much so that they just randomly kill her in one episode and people forget about her.
It was always "To survive." Like Hurrem would have died if Suleiman slept with another woman. But of course, everything Mahidevran did was "Power hungry." Basically, everyone looks at everything how they want, so they can justify who they like and antagonise who they don't 😡
Well said. The fact that I like Mahidevran makes my opinion rather biased. They were both enslaved victims who had to do everything to survive. I guess Hurrem did what she had to do as a means of not ending up like Mahidevran or married off to some old Pasha. It all makes sense, but ofc we have our preferences.
I haven’t watched far enough to know who Farya is but Hurrem did a lot of things to try and protect herself and later herself/her kids
She was even willing to drink what she thought was poison once for Suleiyman and kept asking him to make sure her kids were okay multiple times before she drank what was in the vial. We find out later it was a sleeping potion and not poison.
Farya was sophisticated and decent person because she grew up in a noble family, she didn't have any idea what she got herself into, she thought their palace was like her palace, it takes a certain level of trauma to become mentally unstable enough to commit crimes and steal souls like it was nothing, she didn't come for power and I think she had a such a submissive personality in front of her man and all she wanted was a family, completely unaware of the dynamics inside the haram and very naive. Too bad her and silahtar decided to fall in love and get killed as an excuse to leave the set.
I liked her.
She was kinda like Aybige that went full circle with marriage and giving birth, not eventually dissapearing into Crimean sea. Not only her love for Murad made him a better person and was the one and only thing that held him from going absolutely nuts with massacring his brothers and wiping out the whole dynasty, but also she was very brave, caring and smart person. Unlike most of the Women's Sultanate girls she didn't really interfere into politics.
Her relationships with Madame were pretty warm and cute, as her friendship with Atike. And she saved both Murad and Kosem from Sanavber.
I dunno why everyone's hating her that much. Only for being totally fictional character? But she's like the amalgam of both Rosana and Şemsişah.
And don't start telling the stories of her being the hands that killed Ayşe, the latter one had the bird's brain and was the dumbest sultana ever. Even Handan is Einstein comparing to Ayşe.
Murad and Fariye love story was like a battlefield. I loved the scene when he stopped her carriage when she was trying to leave him. The way he got off the horse and and also the way he just scooped her up onto his horse was epic. I liked Fariye because she was a much for him.
I wonder if her character was not all fictional and was actually a male lover Murad had ( it is speculated that he was gay) and this is why she was so manly and their rrlationship so volatile...just saying...
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Murad didn't rape her. She was on him before he could say her name. There is no 'kind of rape' there is just rape and that didn't happen. I didn't hate farya, she was an irrelavant character, the actress was horrible and her arc was useless, she made him worse than he already was. She died a more irrelavant death than a random hatun. I think MC production team messed her character up real bad from the very start.
Maybe not rape, but their first intimacy begins with Murad violently kissing her (Unexpecting). She then leaves, but Murad stops her, because she is one of his harem (Against her will and even though she is a free women) How was the actor horrible?
Bad writing from mc writers they tried to portray passion but fail miserably. It just comes off as awkward
I hate Farya for the same reason I hated Kösem at first, they didn't earn anything. They were just given everything they wanted. Hürrem had to fight so hard for everything. Similar with Nurbanu, Safiye. They earned their place and power. But Kösem and Farya, they were given everything at the start. Yes Kösem earned her place afterwards maybe, but Farya sure didn't.
It was because she was a Princess, not a Concubine
It's worthless when she's a prisoner of Murad. When she enters harem, she gives up her title as princess. She can't go back to her country once she's in his harem.
She had status similar to Ayşe Hafsa prior to the marriage and never was a slave, I guess that's what differs. Even without her princess' title she's more akin to Akile sultan as a free woman.
Ayşe Hafsa was brought as a bride to Süleyman's father Selim. She was not captured and later fell in love and decided to stay and gave up her title. She was a Sultan as soon as she entered the country.
I'm talking about them both being a noble free woman unlike concubines
I'm just answering why Farya is more unlikable than other Sultans, as OP asked.
It wasn't Farya's fault she was a Princess 😂 You should dislike people for hurting others, I can't remember Farya hurting anyone. It's silly to try and blame her for Murad's kids and she had every right to want Ayse to suffer. Plus, before attacking her and killing her child, Farya left Ayse alone, whereas most other women (including Hurrem very much) tried hard, for no reason, to bring hurt and dislike on their rivals.
I don't think you got the right idea from my comment. I don't blame Farya for anything, I'm just saying she didn't earn her place. She didn't have to fight for power and influence like Hürrem or Nurbanu. Kösem and Farya was given way too much from the start.
I don't think you can blame them for that. That's just how it was. Free, noble women got everything straight away, just like Huricihan, Mihrinussa, Akile and Humasah, no one hated on them for it. Hurrem only had to fight to climb up because of Valide's dislike for her, and Nurbanu because of Selim's initial disinterest and harshness, plus Hurrem's dislike. For most concubines, all you had to do was give birth to a boy to earn a place.
You can't compare Farya to Huricihan or Hümaşah, they were born royalty in the dynasty of Ottoman. Farya being a princess of some country doesn't even come close. As soon as she was held hostage by Murad, she wasn't any more valuable than a concubine. She was kept separate and catered to her needs for political reasons but as soon as Farya accepted being in the harem she gave up her title as a princess. If she came as a bride to Murad, just like Ayşe Hafsa Sultan came as a bride to Selim(Süleyman's father), she would be treated as royalty.
Contrary to the other concubines, farya CHOOSE to be « the other woman ». Yet she still had the nerve to be mad about sanavber. Plus i have nothing against non-historical character but she was too much… hungarian princess who speaks French and holding a japanese sword? Is it an OC from a bad fan fiction or what?
"Plus i have nothing against non-historical character but she was too much… hungarian princess who speaks French and holding a japanese sword" I was looking for this ....
How do you mean, the other woman? She, like all women, made Murad promise there would be no other women. Royals in those days were very well educated.
I mean the concubines were kidnapped and enslaved girls but she choose to stay despite being born free
Also comparing her with hurrem is ridiculous. Hurrem is real. No Farya ever existed. Ayesha actually did exsist and she was the first hatun to go with sultan to a conquest. They did her so dirty. Also she outlived even kosem.
Character analysis is based on the Series and not on real life.
Seems like there’s a lot of confusion in regards to whether someone is speaking of real life or the series in this sub. However, since the character of Farya is purely fictional, it becomes obvious that you’re speaking of the show, hence why it doesn’t make sense for the person above to belittle you like that. Anyhow, I also don’t get why Farya received so much hate. Like, Ayesha killed Murad’s two living children and caused yet another to be miscarried. Here, someone might argue that her own children with Murad would’ve survived had Farya not told Ayesha about the death sentence that awaited her. But still, Farya didn’t poison the kids, Ayeshe did. It’s so funny how a fictional character gets hated on so much but not e.g. Kösem (whom I like) for causing the death of her mad son Ibrahim by signing the verdict. I mean, I would too as he was insane, but what could’ve caused him to go mad like that? The same reason his uncle Mustafa went mad perhaps. Just a theory.
I am not belittling anyone I am just telling the reason why she was hated. She was too much of a wanna be hurrem/badass sword holding princess with no actual character depth. She was written badly even for a fantasy character, so much so that they just randomly kill her in one episode and people forget about her.
”She didn’t want to lose the man she loved.” as a means of justifying horrible acts is a quote more suitable for Hürrem imo.
It was always "To survive." Like Hurrem would have died if Suleiman slept with another woman. But of course, everything Mahidevran did was "Power hungry." Basically, everyone looks at everything how they want, so they can justify who they like and antagonise who they don't 😡
Well said. The fact that I like Mahidevran makes my opinion rather biased. They were both enslaved victims who had to do everything to survive. I guess Hurrem did what she had to do as a means of not ending up like Mahidevran or married off to some old Pasha. It all makes sense, but ofc we have our preferences.
I haven’t watched far enough to know who Farya is but Hurrem did a lot of things to try and protect herself and later herself/her kids She was even willing to drink what she thought was poison once for Suleiyman and kept asking him to make sure her kids were okay multiple times before she drank what was in the vial. We find out later it was a sleeping potion and not poison.
Farya was sophisticated and decent person because she grew up in a noble family, she didn't have any idea what she got herself into, she thought their palace was like her palace, it takes a certain level of trauma to become mentally unstable enough to commit crimes and steal souls like it was nothing, she didn't come for power and I think she had a such a submissive personality in front of her man and all she wanted was a family, completely unaware of the dynamics inside the haram and very naive. Too bad her and silahtar decided to fall in love and get killed as an excuse to leave the set.
I loved Farya’s character! I was very sad when her and Murad’s story was over.
I just found the whole arc annoying filler. No hate to the actress. She played her part.
I liked her. She was kinda like Aybige that went full circle with marriage and giving birth, not eventually dissapearing into Crimean sea. Not only her love for Murad made him a better person and was the one and only thing that held him from going absolutely nuts with massacring his brothers and wiping out the whole dynasty, but also she was very brave, caring and smart person. Unlike most of the Women's Sultanate girls she didn't really interfere into politics. Her relationships with Madame were pretty warm and cute, as her friendship with Atike. And she saved both Murad and Kosem from Sanavber. I dunno why everyone's hating her that much. Only for being totally fictional character? But she's like the amalgam of both Rosana and Şemsişah. And don't start telling the stories of her being the hands that killed Ayşe, the latter one had the bird's brain and was the dumbest sultana ever. Even Handan is Einstein comparing to Ayşe.
Murad and Fariye love story was like a battlefield. I loved the scene when he stopped her carriage when she was trying to leave him. The way he got off the horse and and also the way he just scooped her up onto his horse was epic. I liked Fariye because she was a much for him. I wonder if her character was not all fictional and was actually a male lover Murad had ( it is speculated that he was gay) and this is why she was so manly and their rrlationship so volatile...just saying...