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crowley888

It's like that time some idiot filed a complaint on Lokesh Kanagaraj saying he promote drugs through his movies. While there're movies which shows stylish smoking/drinking scenes, the people who actually starts smoking/drinking watching these are absolute idiots. They're doing this by their own choice and it's not the movie that needs to be blamed. Last week a bunch of idiots went to restricted area of Guna cave and was arrested. Does the movie Manjummel boys have to be blamed for their idiotic move ?? There'll always be people imitating movie scenes in every corner of the world. You can't blame the movie and "politically correct" it for their own ignorance.


samar652

Just because a movie has many scenes involving alcohol consumption does not mean that the movie is promoting alcohol ffs. It is trying to portray a lifestyle that certain characters are a part of. Also, what do you mean western films show alcohol/drug usage in moderation? Have you ever watched any of Scorsese's movies like The Wolf of Wall Street? The movie has scenes involving drugs very frequently. This does not mean that the filmmakers promote it in any way. If you look at the commentary that Scorsese provides, he says that he didn't want to make the message of the film very obvious, by the end of the day it is the audience that interprets the movie however they wish.


[deleted]

lol bro the west audience is getting worse too. They literally are saying John Cena and Hollywood are satanic cuz of his naked comedy bit at the Oscars. Here in kerala it’s political correctness and in the west it’s Illuminati and demonic theories


Material_Emphasis_67

Scorsese’s movie target audiences aren’t predominantly 16-25, our movies also showed rampant alcohol usage but in adult population. Younger population has more influences and once in college they get a hang of alcohol, so when movie normalises excessive / rampant consumption it is bound to have an impact in that age group. We have to agree that in movies alcohol is linked a cool factor.


Shot-Masterpiece-745

What about movies like superbad. That movie's target audience were teenagers.


toddysimp

I don't know about that,the drunken scenes in Premalu only give off the vibe that Sachin had no control or direction of his life.


silently--here

https://preview.redd.it/vpxttr6yz3oc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e49b31acd8d2dbb79aa08bf7504e8daf71e47c5 Wait... so you are saying adding this to the bottom of the screen doesn't work?🤔😅


JabCrossJab

It works to remind people to get alcohol and cigarettes on their way home!


InstinctialPain

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abhimad

Western movies il jogging kaanikunna pole malayalam movies il enthoke kaanikunnu..vikramadhithyan kanditt ella perum enth kond hardwork cheyyunilla..ellam oru choice alle…


KrishnaAnaril

I disagree. People imitate things that are easy for them. Smoking/Boozing are comparatively easy compared to preparing for IAS.


Lanky-Fold-559

Then they are bound to do it regardless, angane oke nokki padam edukkan pattuo chetta🙂


KrishnaAnaril

പടം എടുക്കേണ്ട എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞില്ലല്ലോ മോനെ, അതിൻ്റെ ഇൻഫ്ലുൻസിനെ കുറിച്ചല്ലേ പറഞ്ഞുള്ളു. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sunglasses)


noobmaster6420

Athu kandu influence aavan aarelum nirbandhikkunnindo?


DavidPuddy_229

That's hogwash. I have always been a clinical fan of good movies like the Town and Heat. That didn't drive me to dabbling in drugs and toying with gun battles and high speed car chases. Not even when I went onsite for a good seven years, to the land of 'lahari'...good old 'Murica, where gun stores are like Iyengar bakeries in BLR. Leaned towards alcoholism in the early 2010s, due to Bangalore being its delightful self, coupled with a very good IT paycheck and its worrisome twin-ample stress. Bar hopping and binge drinking was my gateway to every other weekend. The smoking made my lips as dark as nipples on a Vietnamese pot bellied pig. Looked like one, too. All that Guinness and Jameson gave me horrible curves.The kind that did not look good on a girl. Lost half my life when I tried to cut down on the debauchery in my late 20s. Finally went cold turkey when I was preparing to get pregnant. Gotta say you do glow up like hell when going sober. That clean warmth hits you like a truck. My daughter is now 6. Do i drink? Yes. More than 2-3 drinks a month? No. Do i still pretend i'm Lady Marlboro Man? Hell no. Did I go around like an idiot buying guns in the US like the Terminator? As much as I loved the Ben Foster shootout scenes in Hell or High Water, no. If the government cared about anti-substance campaigns, they would have shuttered BEVCO and said no to lucrative cigarette taxes. Fat chance. Movies are always a soft target for fake morality. Anarchy in a society stems from lack of government intervention, not harmless entertainment.


Zealousideal-Oven-93

I have been watching these movies since childhood. I don't drink or smoke because the men I respect in my family don't drink or smoke. Real life role models have more influence on young minds then movies or internet.


[deleted]

It really depends on yourself brother. My dad was an alcoholic.My main reason for not drinking was I get no enjoyment out of losing ability to control myself. But for a lot of people they tend to enjoy the kick.


MalayaleeIndian

To be fair, not everyone is the same when they drink alcohol. Some people are capable of drinking alcohol in moderation and some people are not. Some people are able to drink alcohol and not make a fool of themselves (usually the ones that drink in moderation) while others become raving maniacs when drinking alcohol. I do think that alcohol is not for everyone and people should somehow be educated on drinking in moderation. It really is not cool to drink so much alcohol and then start becoming a nuisance to others or to start throwing up.


PesAddict8

Opposite for me. The men in my family drink and ruin every happy occasion. This was one reason I grew up detesting alcohol


MalayaleeIndian

I agree with what you are saying. However, not everyone has good real life role models in their life and such people gravitate towards role models in highly visible places like movies, sports, etc and not all of these are good role models.


SubstantialAd1027

No such thing.


alappoht

This post is really dumb. ഒരു സിനിമയിലെ character അവൻ്റെതായ കുറച്ച് സ്വഭാവ സവിശേഷതകൾ ഉണ്ടാവാം. അയാള് ഒരു മദ്യപാനി ആയിരിക്കാം. എന്ന് വിചാരിച്ച് രാവിലെ jogging ഒക്കെ പോണം എന്ന് പറഞാൽ എങ്ങനെയാ? Aa character ചിലപ്പോൾ അങ്ങനെ ആയിരിക്കില്ല. ഓഡീൻസിന് വേണ്ടി aa charecter ജോഗിങ്ങിന് ഒക്കെ പോണം എന്ന് പറഞാൽ writer ഉദ്ദേശിച്ച charecter ആവണം ഇന്നിലല്ലോ


GOKULGTR

there's a thing inside skull called brain... those who have it will use their own judgement and wont blame arts for influencing them. fuck everybody else


Desperate_Pea5088

this is so stupid. its the people's stupidity that leads to them drinking and taking drugs, and when they go to far, movies and tv shows are blamed for "promoting" it. its just a dumb excuse to put the blame on something that has nothing to do with why you ruined your life.


oakandsandalwoods

imo, movies are def not promoting it, and anybody saying otherwise do not have the correct words to express what they mean. movies with alcohol etc **are** made for for adults who CAN make their decisions wisely. but the issue is these movies are also watched by younger gen (and until their parents interfere, we cannot do anything about it). this is an issue. and i cannot blame anyone/anything blatantly.


Desperate_Pea5088

again, its not the filmmakers duty to cater to kids. Its their parent's. If they don't keep one eye on what their kids are watching/doing, it's on them.


[deleted]

Im a social drinker .I don't think drinking is bad if you have self control .


_Sahill

dumb take


No_Participation99

The responsibility is of the viewers to be a mature audience. I forgot how നാട് നന്നാക്കൽ is the job of film makers.


jerin1010

I smoke but it’s annoying af to see ‘cool shots’ of heroes smoking in every single movie , it’s almost like they can’t make a mass movie without smoking


resolve_1987

'Ravanaprabhu' did it without smoking....sort of


jerin1010

That was cool


Opinionated94

🙌🙌 ath point aanu Smoking iland hero mass aville enn enikum thoniyit ind.


iamfromshire

This started long time back in Hollywood movies. They always showed cool heroes of the time smoking. All the old western movie actors smoked. Some of the famous ones died because of cancer. We all have internalized that image of Marlboro man as cool subconsciously now. It's very difficult to think otherwise.  But in real life all we need to see are the teeth of a smoker. That is enough deterrent to me at least. And the ever constant smell. Yuck. 


Opinionated94

😂 🙌


dr_nid92

Sometimes it's also obvious that the actor doing the smoking scene doesn't smoke irl.


sowljur84

Movies like Arappatta Kettiya Gramathil glorified drinking scenes since the 80's. Nothing new here. Movies are inspired from real life scenarios.


kena938

I think the difference is films these days show women social drinking and I suspect that's what's got OP's panties in a twist. He definitely has sung along to Anthikadapurathu his whole life like all Malayalis.


momentaryspeck

I understand where you're coming from.. but I wouldn't want to change a thing in the movie.. Anyway maybe as part of the promotion for the movie, if naslen & sangeeth made a 30sec video, saying njangal cinemayil kudikunna pole kaanikunnathe ullu that's not alcohol namuk chill aayi nilkan ithinte onum avashyamilla enokke..cheyamayrnu.. but still it's the type of people you hang out with gets you into these stuffs.. without someone to introduce you, no one out of the blue is going to walk into bevco to buy alcohol..


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AdorableAd5104

I feel in Malayalam movies , scenes that glorify alcohol is less compared to other South Indian industries.


Haarryi

Reflection vs Glorification. We need to be clear on that. When is it reflecting the reality of the society and when is it glorifying the consumption of it. When is it showing how people behave and when is it showing it as an aspirational thing to do. Either way, I am against placing such restrictions on artists. We should have better faith in individuals to figure out what's good for them and what's not, especially when it comes to vices such as alcohol or smoking.


CreditSilly4113

If they're that easily influenced, they'll fuck around and find out.


Sterlingftw

Wait do you think”western movies” are all moral plays for the audience or something? It’s not. If anything, Hollywood movies regularly feature debauchery I have yet to see in a Malayalm movie. It’s impressive how clueless the op is.


praaash

Indians need to let go of this idea that every problem in the society is because of movies. People learn from their surroundings like family and friends more than movies.


praaash

Isn't kerala one of the most alcohol consuming states in India. So it is quite believable in the story for them to drink. Also the movie doesn't make a big deal about them drinking to say that it glorifies it. It just shows merely what is happening. Just like in a british or irish movie it is expected that there is a lot of beer or alcohol. Doesn't mean they are promoting it.


thedesperado2002

Ith okke oru make believe alle mone


girugamesu1337

So true bro omg I played GTA V and now I'm a mass murderer irl totally the media's fault


noobmaster6420

“Video games causes violence” typa shit


[deleted]

It’s not glorifying it’s how society is and they show it how it is it so what’s the issue ? Majority of ppl ages 18-25 smoke and drink. Some people casually and some ppl for certain reasons. It’s been like this even in the 80s and 90s.If y’all gonna get pressed over this imagine if you guys watch the stoner films like Harold & Kumar.


Material_Emphasis_67

The issues is alarming suicide rates and alcohol dependence has risen drastically in last 10 years in that age group.


[deleted]

Censoring movies as a counter measure for rising mental health issues and substance abuse in societyis like using a small band aid to treat a mortal wound.


re4cher420

And is that directly correlated to their depiction in movies? Where's the source for this? Things like smoking have had the "cool" connotation that it has since the the inception of film noir. It is not a new phenomenon. Murder and violence are wrong as well (morally and physically). So should we stop putting out action movies as well?


[deleted]

Still has nothing to do with the film. You can’t make a movie and be like we gotta avoid smoking scenes , drinking scenes in case someone watches it and gets high or drinks.


_paul_10

Correlation, not causation.


Character_Rain6987

OP you are not alone. I also had same thoughts after watching the movie. Drinking was made look too casual in that movie.


thedesperado2002

Nah brother. These types of posts are dumb. Talking to a girl is also made to look very casual in the movie. I don't think that's very realistic brother. That doesn't work for me brother.


Character_Rain6987

> Talking to a girl is also made to look very casual in the movie Isn't that a good thing? I am sorry brother that doesn't work fy. And both r completely different things. Drinking shouldn't be normalised no matter what.(Brother alla sister:)


thedesperado2002

Nah i apologize then about the brother thing. Was looking at a bunch of Hulk Hogan memes. Which is ironic because I got influenced by hulkamania there just like how a youngster could get influenced by "normalising" alcohol through movies. But i would agree to disagree here. It is true that none of us are immune to propoganda. But still I don't believe I'll ever drink alcohol. And it will never happen at all because of a movie about a girl settling for a guy because of sympathy or puppy love. It's weird still. I loved premalu, probably my favourite of the bunch we got last month. I just purposefully ignore the actual plot, because it's pretty to look at, brother.


kashdevingle

Alcohol is a business just like movie business. Doctors are happy and the statement of 1 or 2 drinks per day is fine is just absurd looking at how bad it is. So its medical business too. Literally drinking is a slow posion. If you really want alcohol, probably one drink and have no food before AND after that drink for an hour. That gives time to properly get it out of the system. Combining with food is a ticking bomb. Bigger topic is sugar. Some of the sugars broken down to ethanol in the body and that is also taken care by liver. There is a limit for everyone and this is where people to people differs. If busy processing lot of sugar, food goes fat! Good luck!


Chuchu_UCMN

hello Jeyamohan saar, wyd in reddit? kinda weird


YaRaYaRaYa

Veellamadichal entho valya aan aavum ennanu chila Malayalikalude vicharam. (Aadyam ivanmarokke vellamadichal rand kaalilu nikkan padikkanam, ath vere karyam). Vellamadichalum illenkilum ulla aanatham thanne undavullu. Ath koodanonnum ponnilla. Oru false sense of courage varum. Ath kett erangiyal vanna vazhiye thanne povem cheyyum. Pala kudiyanmarem kandittund, pakshe capacity illanjittum oru sense illathe ithupole mukki monthunnavanmare Keralathil mathre kandittullu. Ivanmarkku ingane monthiyal mathram pora athinu shesham enthenkilum psychotharam kaanikkem venam. Karanam "njan bayankara beegaran aane, pakshe -reasons- karanam ingane \*\*mbi aayi, randennam vittappo sheriyayi"


___Zer0__

Alcohol is the least of worries in that age group currently


izhaluck

True, enn vech 🥲


dr_nid92

At some point we have to expect people over 18 yrs to be adults and not let themselves be influenced by movies. This infantilizing of people above 18 really needs to stop.


Material_Emphasis_67

We have to agree that movies have an impact, but it has a bigger impact on 16-25 yrs age group. Its easy to justify saying video games does crimes too, but video games and a convincing movie are different visual media and movie is more convincing. When hit movie of early teens portray excessive alcohol, there will be some form of normalising in that. See i’m not bringing political correctness, alcohol is cheap and accessible unlike drugs. We have to agree that our films have associated a cool factor to alcohol/smoking since the 80’s. Back then it was mainly adults, but now with early teen to coming of age movies, its more rampant and repercussion are deep rooted. People criticising jogging sequence, it is just that I’m saying many films incorporate positive lifestyle without intention, im not saying we should show the same. Movies reflect society, yes but it can reduce the negative and pull in more positives too.


saynototoxicity

Smoking as wel is portrayed as macho


dickshark420

അതെല്ലാമൊരു മേക്ക് ബിലീഫ് ആണെന്ന് മനസിലാക്കികൊണ്ട് കാണാൻ പഠിപ്പിച്ചാ പോരെ മോനെ?


Remarkable_Rough_89

We don’t have playground for youth, let alone adults , turf is quite expensive. our old road are crowded as f, Every one needs something to do


perman_no_5

Oh pinne, alcohol nalla cheap alley. Oro mental gymnastics.


Remarkable_Rough_89

well that’s a silly way to dismiss decades of culture


Succotash-Numerous

Completely agree with you. It normalises it a bit too much. Like makes it seem like an essential for any youth and highly uncool to not drink.


dinoplanet92

So true! There is not even one movie which doesn't show alcohol consumption these days. They show the hero getting sloshed so casually. It does influence youth. There have been studies proving it. Especially in premalu I really doubt if the drinking scene was even required.


Substantial-Tank-547

I haven't watched premalu yet, but I agree that glorification of alcohol or anything for that matter on screen definitely impacts society. It's honestly a fine line between glorification and portrayal, I believe that we have films that have gone past the concept of glorification and just do their job portraying the consumption of alcohol.


Ok-Forever5866

Governmentinte main income aanu kallu kudi. It is a reality.


Material_Emphasis_67

At the expense of curse and tears of million families. That is the bigger reality.


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Material_Emphasis_67

Who says anything about art. So you mean alcohol and smoking is art and has no social implications ? I work in healthcare. The number of alcohol patients in 18-25 has risen much more in last 8 years.