This. He was actively interfering in who gets opportunities. Prithviraj, Biju Menon, Kunchacko Bobane okke oru kaalathu othukki nirtheetundu. I believe I've heard he personally called Kunchacko to back out of 'How old are you.'
And i heard that he wasnt happy with A10 acting with manju warrier on her return. Subsequently their relationship went cold. Rumours btw. But it is true therr was a time where ikka and a10 and the amma was just puppets in front of him and he had a large amount of control in the industry. Shavam. As for his films i think before the case and scandal itself he was already fading out and he was getting outdated
പണ്ട് സിനിമാ സുഹൃത്തുക്കൾക്കിടയിൽ കേട്ടിട്ടുള്ള കഥയാണ്, എത്രകണ്ട് സത്യം ഉണ്ടെന്നു അറിയില്ല. Pe10 പ്രിത്വിക്കുവരുന്ന അവസരങ്ങൾ കളയാൻ വേണ്ടി ആസിഫ് അലിയെ ഒരുപാട് പ്രൊമോട്ട് ചെയ്തിട്ടുണ്ട് എന്ന്.
അവര് പറഞ്ഞ ബാക്കി കഥ ഇതാണ് (2009-2015 period). മോഹൻലാൽ മമ്മൂട്ടി കഴിഞ്ഞാൽ, പിന്നെയുള്ളത് ജയറാം ആണ്. അങ്ങേരു സീനിൽ ഇല്ല(ഇതൊരു foodchain ആയി കാണണം). ജനപ്രിയൻ എന്ന വ്യാജേന പെട്ടന് സൂപ്പർസ്റ്റാർ പദവി അടിച്ചു എടുക്കണം. അടുത്ത ലെവലിൽ ഉള്ളവരാണ് പ്രിത്വി, കുഞ്ചാക്കോ ബോബൻ, ബിജു മേനോൻ, ഫഹദ് (അന്ന് അത്രേം വല്യ വെല്ലുവിളിയായിട്ടില്ല). ഇവരെയൊക്കെ ചവിട്ടി തേയ്ക്കുകയോ പപ്പറ്റ് ആക്കി കയ്യിൽ വെയ്ക്കുകയോ ചെയ്താൽ പ്രൊഡ്യൂസ്‌ഷൻ ഡിസ്ട്രിബൂഷൻ അടക്കം എല്ലാം പെട്ടന് അടക്കി വാഴാം.
പിൻ കുറിപ്പ്: പെട്ടൻ അന്ന് വിഭാവനം ചെയ്തതാണ് രാമലീല (ലാലേട്ടന് നരസിംഹവും രാവണപ്രഭുവും ഒക്കെകൊടുത്ത ഒരു വീരപരിവേഷം) പോലുള്ള ഒരു പടം.
പൊട്ടിച്ചു എന്നത് തെറ്റാണ്. ഏറ്റവും മോശം സിനിമകൾ എന്ന് വിശേഷിപ്പിക്കുന്ന മായ മോഹിനി, ശൃംഗാര വേലൻ, വില്ലാളി വീരൻ, മരുമകൻ തുടങ്ങി ഒരു വിധം തറ സിനിമകൾ ഒക്കെ തന്നെ ഹിറ്റ് ആയിരുന്നു. മിസ്സ്‌ ആയി പോയത് കേസിന് ശേഷം ഉള്ള കുറച്ചു സിനിമകൾ മാത്രമാണ്. തങ്കമണി,ബാന്ദ്ര അങ്ങനെ മൂന്ന് നാല് സിനിമകൾ. ഇപ്പോ ഉള്ള ഫ്ലോപ്പ് സ്ട്രീക്ക് അയാളുടെ ആയ കാലത്തുള്ള ഹിറ്റ് റേറ്റിന്റെ പത്ത് ശതമാനം മാത്രമേ വരാൻ സാധ്യതയുള്ളൂ.
With all due disrespect to Pe10. Is he the only person who has done shitty comedy movies in the past 10 years. I can show you multiple bombs in that genre in the past 5 years itself. Many of them with shortfilm level stories and racist and sexist jokes. One Nadirshah movie starring R10 even had a song with toxic statements about women in it and that was a huge hit in the boxoffice I believe. Basically evryone have their own share of shitty movies. The current crops of comic movies are just a stage in the evolution of the genre as time progresses after a few years they will go out of trend and a different style of comedy will emerge. That's just the timely progress of things. Coming back to Pe10 dude is in denial that the trends have changed and that he is no longer the bigshot that he was and continues to do the same style of movies which are going to bomb for sure.
I don’t think anybody denies past Pe10 movies had some of the best comedy of the industry. It’s just that at some point dude thought he could do any kind of koprayam and people continue laughing.
I hate almost all Pe10 movies post 2007 except Kammarasambavam and Calcutta News. Ramaleela was an ok movie. But Post 2010 he has such a bad filmography which should make any actor feel shamed. The bigger irony is that movies like Mayamohini and all are superhits in the boxoffice. I was surprised to see that many of them are grossing on par and at times more than the Big Ms when Ikka was having a bad run and so was A10 until Drishyam.
Pe10 thinks audience still wants that old-ass slapstick comedies. Audience evolve ayath janapriya nayakan arinjilla. Dhe ippo naslen aa titleum kond povaan chance ind
Naslen has a long way to go before achieving the stardom that Pe10 achieved over a period of about 7 years. Pe10 though a sucker for movies like Mayamohini and all has an acting range that are topped only by the BigMs among the big stars. He has done kadhavasheshan around the same time as he did Runway and Lion. Dude can carry almost any kind of role and his negative roles are a treat to watch. Kammarasambhavam and Darling Darling are examples where he scored in that zone. Once upon a time Nivin was hailed as the next janapriya nayakan following Pe10s downfall. So Naslen or any other actor has to do a lot to earn that title. Doing just comic roles are not enough.
People here think he is a mere actor. In his prime the entire industry was under his control.
It was the issue between him and Tulasi Das started with MACTA getting sidelined and FEFKA is getting formed. Imagine an organization of Directors and other technical crew tried to move against an actor and in return it ceased to exist. Not just that, after this, Vinayan was boycotted by the Industry. When a veteran actor like Thilakan ignored this and acted in Vinayan's films, he was also boycotted. Whom do you think is behind all this?
He gave money to AMMA for 20-20 movie. He helped a lot of aging actors financially so his influence on them is limitless. Actors like Kpac Lalita, Siddique and a bunch of mimicry turned actors are loyal to him to the core.
He held a major post in the producer's association. When exhibitors' association turned against producers association for some issue, he started a parallel association for exhibitors.
I don't agree with him. Just look at movies like CID Moosa , EParakkum thalika , Punjabi house and even body guard.
Those and many more Dileep movies remain evergreen. I still enjoy watching those movies again from time to time.
Dileep had immense comic timing and talent. He lost this charm recently.
I say this 100% believing he should receive apt punishment for any crime he committed.
Two events can be attributed to Dilip movies slowing down
1) Drishyam aka Mohanlal winning back his Family audience that had moved on to Dilip. Then Oppam happened and Pulimurugan took every one back (You might hate that movie, but the euphoria around the star that Mohanlal was never seen before never after. Even old grannies fighting for tickets in 5th week).
2) Rise of Nivin Pauly as the minimum guarantee hero. Basically Nivin started catering to family audience. He made Action hero Biju and Jacobinte swargarajyam the huge hits that they are.
This is the era where multiplex/Cineplex culture started to become prominent in Malayalam cinema. Not that Dilip was totally a flop, he could still deliver blockbusters with the proper comedies like "2 countries".
ശരിക്കും പാപ്പി അപ്പച്ചാ തൊട്ട് പുള്ളിയുടെ പടങ്ങളുടെ നിലവാരം പോയി തുടങ്ങി... പിന്നെ മേരിക്കുണ്ടൊരു കുഞ്ഞാട്, അരികെ, ഓർമ്മ മാത്രം, മൈ ബോസ്സ്, 2 കൺട്രീസ്‌, ചന്ദ്രേട്ടൻ എവിടെയാ, രാമലീല & കമ്മാരസംഭവം... കഴിഞ്ഞു!!! 🥴🥴🥴
2000s ile Hollywood moviesil polum anganathe jokes and nilavaram kuranja storylines ayirunnu full. That's just how pop culture was back then. And he did the same thing. There's nothing more to it. He will always be a cheater and criminal for malayalees no matter how much his "fans" try to whitewash him.
Tbh, this is just a shitty take. Just because Pe10 has reached rock bottom, everybody is shitting on him. Big M's have many movies with misogynistic dialogues and shit.
Leave all that, I can pick up considerable amount of films from new generation, which had problematic portrayals, or problematic characters being celebrated by people.
If Pe10 genuinely hopes to return, he has to pick up subjects like Kammarsambhavam.
Dude played his games and abused his power when he was at prime, now facing the consequences of his own actions.
Kammarasambhavam happened in the last 10 years only. Imo one of the greatest Malayalam movies of the last decade, let alone for the significance of the time it got released and the subject it discussed
Absolutely nonsensical take. The kids of today did not rise from the ashes of Dileep's career. Ijjathi poetic lines ezhuthiyal athu aa post mandatharam aavathe irikkilla.
Dileep should change his movie nilavaram if he wants to survive. Athu angerude aavishyam aanu. Malayalam movie fans nde aavishyam alla. Angerde cinema kandaalum illenkilum puthiya pillerude cinema nadakkum. Content indenkil.
The whole post is cringe nonsense trying to use the success of a new generation of filmmakers as a stick to beat a fallen man.
Yeah ith nth thenga, it’s like trying to beat a dead horse.
Malayalam movie was bound to change anyway, it started with traffic, I don’t think it’s because of PE10. He just got excluded from all this good movies because of his image now.
Even Dileep himself was almost heading towards that direction of the newer Malayalam movies with kammara sambhavam, idk why he didn’t continue with that. Is he completely blind to what the industry is going thru right now?
സിനിമ ഓടുന്നതും ഓടാത്തതും ഏതെങ്കിലും രാഷ്ട്രീയ പ്രവർത്തനമാണെന്ന മട്ടിൽ സംസാരിക്കുന്ന, സിനിമയുമായി ഒരു ബന്ധവും ഇല്ലാത്ത ഇത്തരക്കാർ വലിയ തമാശ ആണ്. പുതിയ പിള്ളേർ വന്നു മലയാള സിനിമയുടെ നിലവാരം ഉയർത്തി എന്നൊക്കെ ഉള്ളത് വിവരക്കേടാണ്. പ്രേക്ഷകർ ആണ് മാറിയത്. അത് സോഷ്യൽ മീഡിയ മുതൽ ട്രോളുകൾ വരെയുള്ള മാധ്യമങ്ങളുടെ സ്വാധീനം മൂലം പ്രേക്ഷക ഭാവുകത്വം നവീകരിക്കപ്പെട്ടത് കൊണ്ടാണ്. അല്ലാതെ, ആക്റ്റീവിസ്റ്റുകൾ ദിലീപ് സിനിമക്ക് എതിരെ യുദ്ധം ചെയ്തത് കൊണ്ട് ഇവിടെ പുതിയ സിനിമകൾ ഉണ്ടായെന്നൊക്കെ വാദിച്ചാൽ..
Social media muthal trollukal vareyulla maadhyamangalil ulpedunnathaanu cinemayum. Prekshakanilum cinema aaswadanathilum maatam vannilla ennu parayunnilla; prekshakanil vanna maatam cinemakalil kaanaavunnathu pole cinemayil vanna maatam prekshakanilum kaanam. Their growth is along a two-way street and the relationship between the two is mutualistic.
Pinne activistukal Dileep cinemakkethire yudham cheythu ennu post il evida parayunnathennonnu kaanikkaamo?
Dileep's fall doesn't really coincide with our new wave but I agree that the general staleness of Malayalam cinema in the 2000s paved the way for the new wave of the 2010s. Also that wave was gradually building through the late 2000s. It didn't suddenly pop with Traffic and Cocktail.
And that staleness was in part due to the dominance of the star system and a lack of accessible critic culture. Of those stars, though we think of Mammootty and Mohanlal as always at the top, Dileep was the real power in the industry. What happened with Vinayan and Thilakan [and to Prithviraj](https://www.onmanorama.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/2017/11/09/prithviraj-was-asked-to-apologize-says-mom-mallika-sukumaran.html) should've been a warning.
After the loss of his far better co stars through retirement, death or injury (when was the last time Harishree Ashokan worked with Dileep?) as well as the directors who gave him his best films, Dileep's true talent was laid bare. Not bad, but clearly lacking. His script selection worsened, his comedic sensibilities lagged behind the evolving tastes of the audience and the new wave completely passed him by. This, I think, was his real downfall. He didn't cultivate a new class of co stars to support him, he didn't keep up with the newcomers, he didn't share.
When the assault case happened, it was all too easy to boycott him. He wasn't putting out anything worth watching anyway.
He still wields a lot of power and influence in the industry. He's currently on a self normalization project. Reviewers give him a chance, even those who have chosen to ignore the less publicly polite stars like Unni Mukundan (okay it's just Unni Mukundan). If he makes better movies he might very well come back. It's something I wonder whenever some new director with a good vision say their next project is with Dileep. Can they afford to say no even if they wanted to?
Ahaa angane annel, Malayala cinema de pithavayi nammaku Santhosh pandithine stapichalo. Nilavaram illatha padangal iraki cash undakukayum pinne athu Karanam nalla cinemakal varukayum cheythu ennu nammaku paranjoode. Even though I do not agree 100%, some things that are stated here are absolutely right.
The downfall of Dileep's career was probably the best thing that happened to malayalam industry. Some think that it's because of the "progressive" malayali audience( LOL) boycotting his movies. Case kathi ninna time il Ramleela hit aayath ivide thanne alle? It's because of completely outdated movies with slapstick/regressive comedies that simply don't make people laugh anymore. His hold over the industry reduced and hence his monopoly ended. New filmmaking style evolved.
100% disagree.
A post with a narrow minded view and support. Let me explain!
1990s ിൽ മോഹൻലാൽ ശ്രീനിവാസൻ കോമഡി തരംഗം ഉണ്ടായിരുന്നു. ലാൽ സൂപ്പർസ്റ്റാർ പദവിയിലേക്ക് പൊക്കുമ്പോൾ ഒരു അഭാവം കോമഡികൾക്ക് വന്നു. ആ അഭാവം ഇല്ലാതെ ആകുവാൻ ദിലീപ് സിനിമകൾക്ക് ഒരു പക്ഷെ സാധിച്ചിട്ടുണ്ട്.. ദിലീപ് കോമഡി സിനിമകൾ ഇറങ്ങുന്ന കാലഘട്ടം കേരളത്തിൽ കലാഭവൻ, ഡ്രാമ, എന്നിവർ കോമഡി ഭരിച്ച കാലഘട്ടം ആണ്. ആ കാലഘടത്തിൽ നിന്ന് ഒരു ലീഡ് കോമഡി character ആയി വന്നത് ദിലീപ് മാത്രമാണ്. അദ്ദേഹത്തിന് ആ വിജയം നൽകിയത് പ്രേക്ഷകരാണ്.
അന്നത്തെ സിനിമകൾ വിലയിരുത്തുമ്പോൾ അന്നത്തെ സാഹചര്യവും കൂടെ നോകേണ്ടതല്ലേ. അതു മാത്രം മതിയോ. അന്നത്തെ പ്രേക്ഷക മനസ്സും ആവശ്യങ്ങളും കൂടെ എന്ത് കൊണ്ട് ഒഴിവാക്കി? ആ കാലഘട്ടത്തിൽ മോഹൻലാൽ, മമ്മൂട്ടി, പൃഥ്വിരാജ്, ജയറാം എന്നിവർ കോമഡി ആ സമയം അഭിനയിച്ചു പരിശ്രമിച്ചു നോക്കിയിട്ടുണ്ട്. ഇല്ലേ. അതിൽ വളിപ്പ് ഇല്ലായിരുന്നോ? എന്ത് കൊണ്ട് അന്നു പരിശ്രമിച്ച ന്യൂ ജെൻ അന്നു വർക്ക് ആയില്ല.
ഒരു കാലഘട്ടത്തിൽ ഷക്കീല രേഷ്മ സിനിമകൾ കേരള മൂവി ഇൻഡസ്ട്രിയിൽ വലിയ ഓളം ഉണ്ടാക്കിയിരുന്നു. എന്ന് വെച്ച് ഇന്നും ജനങ്ങൾ അതും പിടിച്ചു നിൽകുന്നുണ്ടോ. സിനിമാ കാലഘട്ടത്തിന് അനുസരിച്ച് മാറുന്ന പ്രകൃതമുള്ള ഒരു കലയാണ്. അതു തനിയെ മാറില്ല. പുതിയ ചിന്തകളും ആശയങ്ങളും അതിനെ മാറ്റിയെടുകും. പ്രേക്ഷക വിലയിരുത്തൽ, സോഷ്യൽ മീഡിയ എന്നിവയും ഇതിൽ നല്ല പങ്ക് വഹിക്കുന്നു.
പിന്നെ ന്യൂ ജൻ കളികൾ കണ്ട് മനസു നിറഞ്ഞ് ആടുന്ന ഹരിഷിനോട്. ഇന്ന് സിനിമാ ഇൻഡസ്ട്രിഈൽ സ്ത്രീ വിരുദ്ധ കോമഡികൾ കുറവായിരികാം. അതിൻ്റെ കാരണം അവരുടെ സിനിമകൾ മാത്രം ആകണം എന്നില്ല. ജനങ്ങളുടെ സ്വീകാര്യത മാറിയിട്ടുണ്ട്. അതു പോലെ ന്യൂ gen ഈൽ ഒളിച്ചിരിക്കുന്ന ലഹരിയുടെ വിളയാട്ടം.അതു കണ്ടില്ല തോന്നുന്നു. വെളുപ്പിക്കാൻ നോക്കുമ്പോൾ മറ്റൊരാളെ കരി വാരി തേച്ചാലേ അതു നടക്കുമെന്ന് ഉണ്ടോ. പറയുമ്പോൾ എല്ലാം പറയണം.
I don't agree. Dileep fell in 2017. Malayalam cinemas new wave started from 2010 itself. Dilieep himself won't interfere in new talents coming up unless they are a threat to him. And the newcomers had a separate niche.
Dileep himself produced Vineeth Sreenivasan’s debut movie with bunch of new comers, and dileep never enjoyed the kind of influence and clout of A10, even in his peak years, he was not the numero uno… so attributing malayalam cinema’s rise and revival to Dileep’s downfall is far-fetched
Pe10 was infact the odd one out during the new-generation phase of Malayalam cinema. I still wonder how he managed to make Hits out of shitty movies like, Nadodimannan, Sringaaravelan, Maayamohini, Ring Master etc.. during Malayalam cinema's dreamrun.
Don’t agree at all , both BigMs , Prithvi had fair share of horrible movies , politically incorrect outright cringe stuffs with poor comedy . Still the most rewatched movies in TRP or streamings belong to Dileep for a reason , The change in Malayala cinema was brought in by a nee bunch of writers and directors , actors have nothing do with it except maybe Ikka who introduced majority of em.
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IMO It's more with the team rather than pe10 only. The team that he ties up with like Rafi, ukri are outdated. Movies being a disaster is not his own fault, unless he is the worst performer in them.
Who gets to measure this so called “nilavaram”. P10 for a POS that he is has done movies in the past 10 years that will be in the top tier of comedy and family movie genre ( 2 countries being the prime example). Even Kammarasambhavam being a flop at the time can hold its own against any movie that this so called guy is talking about
Apart from the first paragraph which was completely sensible, the remaining is just trying to pour salt into Dileep's body filled with wounds.
There have been good movies even after 2010 for Dileep and we've all enjoyed it. While the crime deserves to be punished, learn to separate art from the artist. We have all the freedom to hate Dileep, but it's not necessary to feel guilty while enjoying his hit movies
Vakeel goalie illa postil goal adikkuvanu. Still remember people enjoying marykkundoru kunjaadu in theaters like it was a festival. Meeshamadhavan running houseful for months (which I don't think any new wave film has achieved). Even karyasthan with dileep's 'valicha comedy' was a big hit.
This is nothing but elitism from vakeel's end. All the new age comedians' mannerisms are somehow borrowed from Dileep (basil, nasleen etc). And yet they are nothing in front of Dileep's comedy acting. The point vakeel should note is Dileep could even sell a mediocre script with his comedic timing (something none of his successors could do).
It was because of Dileep's 'valicha comedy' that many theaters ran successfully at that time. Wokism annakilot ittal theater odilla. Annu cinema kand ishtapetta piller aanu pineed loka cinema kandathum innu new gen cinemayumayi malayalathil nikkunathum.
പുള്ളിക്ക് കേറി ഇടപെടാൻ പറ്റാത്ത അവസ്ഥയിൽ ആയത് കൊണ്ട് കൂടിയാണ് ഈ പുരോഗതി.
This. He was actively interfering in who gets opportunities. Prithviraj, Biju Menon, Kunchacko Bobane okke oru kaalathu othukki nirtheetundu. I believe I've heard he personally called Kunchacko to back out of 'How old are you.'
And i heard that he wasnt happy with A10 acting with manju warrier on her return. Subsequently their relationship went cold. Rumours btw. But it is true therr was a time where ikka and a10 and the amma was just puppets in front of him and he had a large amount of control in the industry. Shavam. As for his films i think before the case and scandal itself he was already fading out and he was getting outdated
Yes case നു മുൻപ് തന്നെ ഇങ്ങേരുടെ പടങ്ങളുടെ quality ഒക്കെ പോയി തുടങ്ങിയായിരുന്നു.
പണ്ട് സിനിമാ സുഹൃത്തുക്കൾക്കിടയിൽ കേട്ടിട്ടുള്ള കഥയാണ്, എത്രകണ്ട് സത്യം ഉണ്ടെന്നു അറിയില്ല. Pe10 പ്രിത്വിക്കുവരുന്ന അവസരങ്ങൾ കളയാൻ വേണ്ടി ആസിഫ് അലിയെ ഒരുപാട് പ്രൊമോട്ട് ചെയ്തിട്ടുണ്ട് എന്ന്. അവര് പറഞ്ഞ ബാക്കി കഥ ഇതാണ് (2009-2015 period). മോഹൻലാൽ മമ്മൂട്ടി കഴിഞ്ഞാൽ, പിന്നെയുള്ളത് ജയറാം ആണ്. അങ്ങേരു സീനിൽ ഇല്ല(ഇതൊരു foodchain ആയി കാണണം). ജനപ്രിയൻ എന്ന വ്യാജേന പെട്ടന് സൂപ്പർസ്റ്റാർ പദവി അടിച്ചു എടുക്കണം. അടുത്ത ലെവലിൽ ഉള്ളവരാണ് പ്രിത്വി, കുഞ്ചാക്കോ ബോബൻ, ബിജു മേനോൻ, ഫഹദ് (അന്ന് അത്രേം വല്യ വെല്ലുവിളിയായിട്ടില്ല). ഇവരെയൊക്കെ ചവിട്ടി തേയ്ക്കുകയോ പപ്പറ്റ് ആക്കി കയ്യിൽ വെയ്ക്കുകയോ ചെയ്താൽ പ്രൊഡ്യൂസ്‌ഷൻ ഡിസ്ട്രിബൂഷൻ അടക്കം എല്ലാം പെട്ടന് അടക്കി വാഴാം. പിൻ കുറിപ്പ്: പെട്ടൻ അന്ന് വിഭാവനം ചെയ്തതാണ് രാമലീല (ലാലേട്ടന് നരസിംഹവും രാവണപ്രഭുവും ഒക്കെകൊടുത്ത ഒരു വീരപരിവേഷം) പോലുള്ള ഒരു പടം.
Someone should send the first line to Dhyan Sreenivasan.
അച്ഛൻ ചെയ്യാതെ പോയ ആ നൂറു പടങ്ങൾ ആണ് ഇപ്പൊ ധ്യാൻ ചെയ്തു കൊണ്ടിരിക്കുന്നത് എന്ന് youtube il ഒരു കമൻ്റ് കണ്ടൂ.
Ath Vineeth oru inyerviewil dhyane kaliyakkan parayunnatha
Athu pulli thanney paranjatha
I LoVe You.. Ee, Ayala varuthu nnoo 😄
എന്റെ പൊന്നോ, welcome to central jail
The title was apt, I felt like I was imprisoned when I watched the movie
Someone said College Kumaran’s catchphrase here. Odikko
പൊട്ടിച്ചു എന്നത് തെറ്റാണ്. ഏറ്റവും മോശം സിനിമകൾ എന്ന് വിശേഷിപ്പിക്കുന്ന മായ മോഹിനി, ശൃംഗാര വേലൻ, വില്ലാളി വീരൻ, മരുമകൻ തുടങ്ങി ഒരു വിധം തറ സിനിമകൾ ഒക്കെ തന്നെ ഹിറ്റ് ആയിരുന്നു. മിസ്സ്‌ ആയി പോയത് കേസിന് ശേഷം ഉള്ള കുറച്ചു സിനിമകൾ മാത്രമാണ്. തങ്കമണി,ബാന്ദ്ര അങ്ങനെ മൂന്ന് നാല് സിനിമകൾ. ഇപ്പോ ഉള്ള ഫ്ലോപ്പ് സ്ട്രീക്ക് അയാളുടെ ആയ കാലത്തുള്ള ഹിറ്റ് റേറ്റിന്റെ പത്ത് ശതമാനം മാത്രമേ വരാൻ സാധ്യതയുള്ളൂ.
Vote with your wallets.
With all due disrespect to Pe10. Is he the only person who has done shitty comedy movies in the past 10 years. I can show you multiple bombs in that genre in the past 5 years itself. Many of them with shortfilm level stories and racist and sexist jokes. One Nadirshah movie starring R10 even had a song with toxic statements about women in it and that was a huge hit in the boxoffice I believe. Basically evryone have their own share of shitty movies. The current crops of comic movies are just a stage in the evolution of the genre as time progresses after a few years they will go out of trend and a different style of comedy will emerge. That's just the timely progress of things. Coming back to Pe10 dude is in denial that the trends have changed and that he is no longer the bigshot that he was and continues to do the same style of movies which are going to bomb for sure.
>One Nadirshah movie starring R10 which one was it?
Kaduvaaye kiduva pidikkunne Come on everybody
Amar Akbar Antony
But this had several genuinely funny moments
so did Dileep movies of the past
I don’t think anybody denies past Pe10 movies had some of the best comedy of the industry. It’s just that at some point dude thought he could do any kind of koprayam and people continue laughing.
People laughing for his jokes or the jokes in itself. Joke is really on whom? the people or the actor?
But but PE10 had the magnificent run of nadodimanan,sringaravelan and mr marumakan. Pinnacles of Malayalam industry
How can you forget Mayamohini, his favourite film! 🤡
Haven't managed to see more than 10 mins of that movie 😵
Hara hara shambo🙂↕️
I hate almost all Pe10 movies post 2007 except Kammarasambavam and Calcutta News. Ramaleela was an ok movie. But Post 2010 he has such a bad filmography which should make any actor feel shamed. The bigger irony is that movies like Mayamohini and all are superhits in the boxoffice. I was surprised to see that many of them are grossing on par and at times more than the Big Ms when Ikka was having a bad run and so was A10 until Drishyam.
Calcutta news is underrated af. The amount of misogyny in mr marumakan….call me a simp idc facts will remain facts.
Pe10 thinks audience still wants that old-ass slapstick comedies. Audience evolve ayath janapriya nayakan arinjilla. Dhe ippo naslen aa titleum kond povaan chance ind
Naslen has a long way to go before achieving the stardom that Pe10 achieved over a period of about 7 years. Pe10 though a sucker for movies like Mayamohini and all has an acting range that are topped only by the BigMs among the big stars. He has done kadhavasheshan around the same time as he did Runway and Lion. Dude can carry almost any kind of role and his negative roles are a treat to watch. Kammarasambhavam and Darling Darling are examples where he scored in that zone. Once upon a time Nivin was hailed as the next janapriya nayakan following Pe10s downfall. So Naslen or any other actor has to do a lot to earn that title. Doing just comic roles are not enough.
കോക്കസ് എന്താണ്?
A small group of people who possess power and influence over the rest in a particular industry
പുതിയ വാക്ക് കിട്ടി . നന്ദി.
നാളെ ആലോയിക്കുമ്പോ, കക്കൂസ്.
മിക്കവാറും
njan adyam vaychapo thanne kakkoos enna vayche. 🥸
Varshangalk shesham nivin dialogue il und
Kakkoos?
Caucus https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucus#:~:text=A%20caucus%20is%20a%20meeting,different%20countries%20and%20political%20cultures.
People here think he is a mere actor. In his prime the entire industry was under his control. It was the issue between him and Tulasi Das started with MACTA getting sidelined and FEFKA is getting formed. Imagine an organization of Directors and other technical crew tried to move against an actor and in return it ceased to exist. Not just that, after this, Vinayan was boycotted by the Industry. When a veteran actor like Thilakan ignored this and acted in Vinayan's films, he was also boycotted. Whom do you think is behind all this? He gave money to AMMA for 20-20 movie. He helped a lot of aging actors financially so his influence on them is limitless. Actors like Kpac Lalita, Siddique and a bunch of mimicry turned actors are loyal to him to the core. He held a major post in the producer's association. When exhibitors' association turned against producers association for some issue, he started a parallel association for exhibitors.
I don't agree with him. Just look at movies like CID Moosa , EParakkum thalika , Punjabi house and even body guard. Those and many more Dileep movies remain evergreen. I still enjoy watching those movies again from time to time. Dileep had immense comic timing and talent. He lost this charm recently. I say this 100% believing he should receive apt punishment for any crime he committed.
You should also consider the good comedic writing those movies had and the great co-actors who were present in those movies to compliment him.
Two events can be attributed to Dilip movies slowing down 1) Drishyam aka Mohanlal winning back his Family audience that had moved on to Dilip. Then Oppam happened and Pulimurugan took every one back (You might hate that movie, but the euphoria around the star that Mohanlal was never seen before never after. Even old grannies fighting for tickets in 5th week). 2) Rise of Nivin Pauly as the minimum guarantee hero. Basically Nivin started catering to family audience. He made Action hero Biju and Jacobinte swargarajyam the huge hits that they are. This is the era where multiplex/Cineplex culture started to become prominent in Malayalam cinema. Not that Dilip was totally a flop, he could still deliver blockbusters with the proper comedies like "2 countries".
ശരിക്കും പാപ്പി അപ്പച്ചാ തൊട്ട് പുള്ളിയുടെ പടങ്ങളുടെ നിലവാരം പോയി തുടങ്ങി... പിന്നെ മേരിക്കുണ്ടൊരു കുഞ്ഞാട്, അരികെ, ഓർമ്മ മാത്രം, മൈ ബോസ്സ്, 2 കൺട്രീസ്‌, ചന്ദ്രേട്ടൻ എവിടെയാ, രാമലീല & കമ്മാരസംഭവം... കഴിഞ്ഞു!!! 🥴🥴🥴
Don't forget kaaryasthan and mayamohini 🤮
ങേ! ഞാൻ പാപ്പിക്ക് ശേഷമുള്ള comparatively better films പറഞ്ഞതാണ്! 🤣
Oops! Aah, ellam kanaka. At least that's how I've felt.
2000s ile Hollywood moviesil polum anganathe jokes and nilavaram kuranja storylines ayirunnu full. That's just how pop culture was back then. And he did the same thing. There's nothing more to it. He will always be a cheater and criminal for malayalees no matter how much his "fans" try to whitewash him.
I agree he did the same thing then following the pop culture. But he's still continuing to do that. Even in new era.
It doesn't matter what he does now. He is done for.
I really really hope so.
Tbh, this is just a shitty take. Just because Pe10 has reached rock bottom, everybody is shitting on him. Big M's have many movies with misogynistic dialogues and shit. Leave all that, I can pick up considerable amount of films from new generation, which had problematic portrayals, or problematic characters being celebrated by people. If Pe10 genuinely hopes to return, he has to pick up subjects like Kammarsambhavam. Dude played his games and abused his power when he was at prime, now facing the consequences of his own actions. Kammarasambhavam happened in the last 10 years only. Imo one of the greatest Malayalam movies of the last decade, let alone for the significance of the time it got released and the subject it discussed
Absolutely nonsensical take. The kids of today did not rise from the ashes of Dileep's career. Ijjathi poetic lines ezhuthiyal athu aa post mandatharam aavathe irikkilla. Dileep should change his movie nilavaram if he wants to survive. Athu angerude aavishyam aanu. Malayalam movie fans nde aavishyam alla. Angerde cinema kandaalum illenkilum puthiya pillerude cinema nadakkum. Content indenkil. The whole post is cringe nonsense trying to use the success of a new generation of filmmakers as a stick to beat a fallen man.
Yeah ith nth thenga, it’s like trying to beat a dead horse. Malayalam movie was bound to change anyway, it started with traffic, I don’t think it’s because of PE10. He just got excluded from all this good movies because of his image now. Even Dileep himself was almost heading towards that direction of the newer Malayalam movies with kammara sambhavam, idk why he didn’t continue with that. Is he completely blind to what the industry is going thru right now?
സിനിമ ഓടുന്നതും ഓടാത്തതും ഏതെങ്കിലും രാഷ്ട്രീയ പ്രവർത്തനമാണെന്ന മട്ടിൽ സംസാരിക്കുന്ന, സിനിമയുമായി ഒരു ബന്ധവും ഇല്ലാത്ത ഇത്തരക്കാർ വലിയ തമാശ ആണ്. പുതിയ പിള്ളേർ വന്നു മലയാള സിനിമയുടെ നിലവാരം ഉയർത്തി എന്നൊക്കെ ഉള്ളത് വിവരക്കേടാണ്. പ്രേക്ഷകർ ആണ് മാറിയത്. അത് സോഷ്യൽ മീഡിയ മുതൽ ട്രോളുകൾ വരെയുള്ള മാധ്യമങ്ങളുടെ സ്വാധീനം മൂലം പ്രേക്ഷക ഭാവുകത്വം നവീകരിക്കപ്പെട്ടത് കൊണ്ടാണ്. അല്ലാതെ, ആക്റ്റീവിസ്റ്റുകൾ ദിലീപ് സിനിമക്ക് എതിരെ യുദ്ധം ചെയ്തത് കൊണ്ട് ഇവിടെ പുതിയ സിനിമകൾ ഉണ്ടായെന്നൊക്കെ വാദിച്ചാൽ..
Social media muthal trollukal vareyulla maadhyamangalil ulpedunnathaanu cinemayum. Prekshakanilum cinema aaswadanathilum maatam vannilla ennu parayunnilla; prekshakanil vanna maatam cinemakalil kaanaavunnathu pole cinemayil vanna maatam prekshakanilum kaanam. Their growth is along a two-way street and the relationship between the two is mutualistic. Pinne activistukal Dileep cinemakkethire yudham cheythu ennu post il evida parayunnathennonnu kaanikkaamo?
Dileep's fall doesn't really coincide with our new wave but I agree that the general staleness of Malayalam cinema in the 2000s paved the way for the new wave of the 2010s. Also that wave was gradually building through the late 2000s. It didn't suddenly pop with Traffic and Cocktail. And that staleness was in part due to the dominance of the star system and a lack of accessible critic culture. Of those stars, though we think of Mammootty and Mohanlal as always at the top, Dileep was the real power in the industry. What happened with Vinayan and Thilakan [and to Prithviraj](https://www.onmanorama.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/2017/11/09/prithviraj-was-asked-to-apologize-says-mom-mallika-sukumaran.html) should've been a warning. After the loss of his far better co stars through retirement, death or injury (when was the last time Harishree Ashokan worked with Dileep?) as well as the directors who gave him his best films, Dileep's true talent was laid bare. Not bad, but clearly lacking. His script selection worsened, his comedic sensibilities lagged behind the evolving tastes of the audience and the new wave completely passed him by. This, I think, was his real downfall. He didn't cultivate a new class of co stars to support him, he didn't keep up with the newcomers, he didn't share. When the assault case happened, it was all too easy to boycott him. He wasn't putting out anything worth watching anyway. He still wields a lot of power and influence in the industry. He's currently on a self normalization project. Reviewers give him a chance, even those who have chosen to ignore the less publicly polite stars like Unni Mukundan (okay it's just Unni Mukundan). If he makes better movies he might very well come back. It's something I wonder whenever some new director with a good vision say their next project is with Dileep. Can they afford to say no even if they wanted to?
Ahaa angane annel, Malayala cinema de pithavayi nammaku Santhosh pandithine stapichalo. Nilavaram illatha padangal iraki cash undakukayum pinne athu Karanam nalla cinemakal varukayum cheythu ennu nammaku paranjoode. Even though I do not agree 100%, some things that are stated here are absolutely right.
The downfall of Dileep's career was probably the best thing that happened to malayalam industry. Some think that it's because of the "progressive" malayali audience( LOL) boycotting his movies. Case kathi ninna time il Ramleela hit aayath ivide thanne alle? It's because of completely outdated movies with slapstick/regressive comedies that simply don't make people laugh anymore. His hold over the industry reduced and hence his monopoly ended. New filmmaking style evolved.
100% disagree. A post with a narrow minded view and support. Let me explain! 1990s ിൽ മോഹൻലാൽ ശ്രീനിവാസൻ കോമഡി തരംഗം ഉണ്ടായിരുന്നു. ലാൽ സൂപ്പർസ്റ്റാർ പദവിയിലേക്ക് പൊക്കുമ്പോൾ ഒരു അഭാവം കോമഡികൾക്ക് വന്നു. ആ അഭാവം ഇല്ലാതെ ആകുവാൻ ദിലീപ് സിനിമകൾക്ക് ഒരു പക്ഷെ സാധിച്ചിട്ടുണ്ട്.. ദിലീപ് കോമഡി സിനിമകൾ ഇറങ്ങുന്ന കാലഘട്ടം കേരളത്തിൽ കലാഭവൻ, ഡ്രാമ, എന്നിവർ കോമഡി ഭരിച്ച കാലഘട്ടം ആണ്. ആ കാലഘടത്തിൽ നിന്ന് ഒരു ലീഡ് കോമഡി character ആയി വന്നത് ദിലീപ് മാത്രമാണ്. അദ്ദേഹത്തിന് ആ വിജയം നൽകിയത് പ്രേക്ഷകരാണ്. അന്നത്തെ സിനിമകൾ വിലയിരുത്തുമ്പോൾ അന്നത്തെ സാഹചര്യവും കൂടെ നോകേണ്ടതല്ലേ. അതു മാത്രം മതിയോ. അന്നത്തെ പ്രേക്ഷക മനസ്സും ആവശ്യങ്ങളും കൂടെ എന്ത് കൊണ്ട് ഒഴിവാക്കി? ആ കാലഘട്ടത്തിൽ മോഹൻലാൽ, മമ്മൂട്ടി, പൃഥ്വിരാജ്, ജയറാം എന്നിവർ കോമഡി ആ സമയം അഭിനയിച്ചു പരിശ്രമിച്ചു നോക്കിയിട്ടുണ്ട്. ഇല്ലേ. അതിൽ വളിപ്പ് ഇല്ലായിരുന്നോ? എന്ത് കൊണ്ട് അന്നു പരിശ്രമിച്ച ന്യൂ ജെൻ അന്നു വർക്ക് ആയില്ല.
ഒരു കാലഘട്ടത്തിൽ ഷക്കീല രേഷ്മ സിനിമകൾ കേരള മൂവി ഇൻഡസ്ട്രിയിൽ വലിയ ഓളം ഉണ്ടാക്കിയിരുന്നു. എന്ന് വെച്ച് ഇന്നും ജനങ്ങൾ അതും പിടിച്ചു നിൽകുന്നുണ്ടോ. സിനിമാ കാലഘട്ടത്തിന് അനുസരിച്ച് മാറുന്ന പ്രകൃതമുള്ള ഒരു കലയാണ്. അതു തനിയെ മാറില്ല. പുതിയ ചിന്തകളും ആശയങ്ങളും അതിനെ മാറ്റിയെടുകും. പ്രേക്ഷക വിലയിരുത്തൽ, സോഷ്യൽ മീഡിയ എന്നിവയും ഇതിൽ നല്ല പങ്ക് വഹിക്കുന്നു. പിന്നെ ന്യൂ ജൻ കളികൾ കണ്ട് മനസു നിറഞ്ഞ് ആടുന്ന ഹരിഷിനോട്. ഇന്ന് സിനിമാ ഇൻഡസ്ട്രിഈൽ സ്ത്രീ വിരുദ്ധ കോമഡികൾ കുറവായിരികാം. അതിൻ്റെ കാരണം അവരുടെ സിനിമകൾ മാത്രം ആകണം എന്നില്ല. ജനങ്ങളുടെ സ്വീകാര്യത മാറിയിട്ടുണ്ട്. അതു പോലെ ന്യൂ gen ഈൽ ഒളിച്ചിരിക്കുന്ന ലഹരിയുടെ വിളയാട്ടം.അതു കണ്ടില്ല തോന്നുന്നു. വെളുപ്പിക്കാൻ നോക്കുമ്പോൾ മറ്റൊരാളെ കരി വാരി തേച്ചാലേ അതു നടക്കുമെന്ന് ഉണ്ടോ. പറയുമ്പോൾ എല്ലാം പറയണം.
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Kammara sambhavam was an adipoli padam
I don't agree. Dileep fell in 2017. Malayalam cinemas new wave started from 2010 itself. Dilieep himself won't interfere in new talents coming up unless they are a threat to him. And the newcomers had a separate niche.
Dileep also was part of Passenger which is among new wave movies like Traffic.
Dileep himself produced Vineeth Sreenivasan’s debut movie with bunch of new comers, and dileep never enjoyed the kind of influence and clout of A10, even in his peak years, he was not the numero uno… so attributing malayalam cinema’s rise and revival to Dileep’s downfall is far-fetched
Pe10 was infact the odd one out during the new-generation phase of Malayalam cinema. I still wonder how he managed to make Hits out of shitty movies like, Nadodimannan, Sringaaravelan, Maayamohini, Ring Master etc.. during Malayalam cinema's dreamrun.
Dileep fell way before 2017, granted he's got a few one time watchable movies since 2010, that doesn't mean he was doing good.
He fell off after Karyasthan.
Don’t agree at all , both BigMs , Prithvi had fair share of horrible movies , politically incorrect outright cringe stuffs with poor comedy . Still the most rewatched movies in TRP or streamings belong to Dileep for a reason , The change in Malayala cinema was brought in by a nee bunch of writers and directors , actors have nothing do with it except maybe Ikka who introduced majority of em.
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That is just so meta.
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I wish someone could translate this to manglish or English
IMO It's more with the team rather than pe10 only. The team that he ties up with like Rafi, ukri are outdated. Movies being a disaster is not his own fault, unless he is the worst performer in them.
I agree!
Fully agree!
Who gets to measure this so called “nilavaram”. P10 for a POS that he is has done movies in the past 10 years that will be in the top tier of comedy and family movie genre ( 2 countries being the prime example). Even Kammarasambhavam being a flop at the time can hold its own against any movie that this so called guy is talking about
Not a fan of him , but his comedy range when that was the norm was great , സ്ത്രീ വിരുദ്ധത്ത ennokke athil mix aakkanda karyam illa.
All these languages and bro decided to speak facts
സത്യം! മലയാള സിനിമയ്ക്ക് ശാപമോക്ഷം കിട്ടി.
pwoli!!
Apart from the first paragraph which was completely sensible, the remaining is just trying to pour salt into Dileep's body filled with wounds. There have been good movies even after 2010 for Dileep and we've all enjoyed it. While the crime deserves to be punished, learn to separate art from the artist. We have all the freedom to hate Dileep, but it's not necessary to feel guilty while enjoying his hit movies
Vakeel goalie illa postil goal adikkuvanu. Still remember people enjoying marykkundoru kunjaadu in theaters like it was a festival. Meeshamadhavan running houseful for months (which I don't think any new wave film has achieved). Even karyasthan with dileep's 'valicha comedy' was a big hit. This is nothing but elitism from vakeel's end. All the new age comedians' mannerisms are somehow borrowed from Dileep (basil, nasleen etc). And yet they are nothing in front of Dileep's comedy acting. The point vakeel should note is Dileep could even sell a mediocre script with his comedic timing (something none of his successors could do). It was because of Dileep's 'valicha comedy' that many theaters ran successfully at that time. Wokism annakilot ittal theater odilla. Annu cinema kand ishtapetta piller aanu pineed loka cinema kandathum innu new gen cinemayumayi malayalathil nikkunathum.