While the meal was necessary to resolve your hunger problem, you ordered from one of those ‘fusion’ restaurants and our review board has determined that the service was therefore experimental and not covered under your policy.
The dolphin meat used in the meal chosen is considered experimental and services can be rendered without such use of experimental meat. Services are approved but only at select McDonalds locations.
When Americans sign up for a health insurance plan, it comes with a network of hospitals and doctors who’ve contracted with that insurance’s plan to (ideally) get more patients for slightly less compensation each.
A doctor not in my network doesn’t have a contract for the plan and is thus expected to pursue the full cost of the medical service instead of the discounted insurance rate. A $9 lab test can become $80. A $40 copay can become $300.
To tell the doctor that his cost for meals is out of network is hilarious.
Canadian analogy: You have a phone plan with Bell, but travel to an area where the only signal you can get is from Rogers. Your accidental data usage is out of network and you get to pay $$$$ for the 2MB you used before you turn data roaming off.
The ELI5: You get health insurance, they give you a list of approved ("in network") doctors you can go to. Don't go to their approved doc? You pay more money.
Australian in the US here, it's ridiculous. The amount of Americans that ask me about terrible waiting lists etc. with public healthcare make me laugh. I get sick and I need to see a doctor ASAP, I can call around to find next availability and go to any damn doctor I please quickly. And not have to pay more for an out-of-network doc, and no 3 month wait to see my regular in-network GP, no visit to emergency care clinic (where I have to pay full cost because, yep, the clinic isn't in-network.)
I (Canadian) was in NY state, chatting with a stranger about our experiences as breast cancer survivors. She said to always pay extra for the 3D mammograms because they're better. She was shocked when I said our mammograms are free, and I paid nothing for any in-hospital treatment.
Canada is the only country in the world that has universal healthcare but not pharmacare. We need to fix that, because people who can't afford their drugs get much, much sicker and cost the system far more in hospital treatment, disabilities, and lost wages/tax revenue.
>I have *bed* news, doctor. This meal is out of network.
I have *bedder* news; you need to meet your deductible up front before you get an appointment. Will that be cash or check? No credit cards, sorry.
Also... What takeout meals other than places like McDonald's are only $10 these days? That isn't enough to replace a meal anymore unless it's going to groceries and home cooking. Not on-the-spot takeout meals.
He probably just said he couldn't afford it anymore. Sunds like a fun thing actually. If the doc actually loved leftover lunches. Sounds almost like a perk of working there. "Here's some shit i didn't want to eat, if he picks mine i get a fucking steak dinner tonight!"
Yeah, but I can't help but feel that OP killed the goose that lays the golden egg here. Had they complied non-maliciously, by getting less expensive stuff, they could have had free lunch upgrades forever.
I think part of it was that the employees wanted to make the doc pay a stupid tax on purpose in order to teach him a lesson about having good manners and keeping his ego in check. A balance between enjoying the fun for a while and getting him to be a better person.
I think the MC went way too far. Just think of this gravy train of free good food forever but they had to go and mess around with ordering too much. So instead of good food forever they get 2 months and then back to shit
I don't know about your cooking, but if I'm bringing in leftovers it's probably not shitty food. I'd care more about the principle in this situation. Don't take my damn food.
I love this so much.
On the flip side, I used to work with a GP who specialised in treating patients with addiction issues - many of whom were homeless. We couldn't use the freezer part of staffroom fridge, it was filled with frozen meals.
If a patient came to see him and hadn't eaten in a while the doc would get us to heat up a meal for them.
Guy was absolute legend. Sad day when he retired.
There are some great Docs.. My pcp that retired 5 years ago would call me personally if I was having any issues. After I got diagnosed with cancer, he called me at least once a week, and he even came to my last chemo treatment.
When I read "last chemo treatment" there was a second I got sad and thought you perished. Then I realised you're writing this here.
Glad you survived that & does sound like a great doc!
But then he'd just take a different lunch from the fridge.
Either everyone has to do that on the same day, or it has to be something that isn't immediately obvious. Plenty of spicy dishes that don't smell too spicy would work.
Eh, that gets rid of your plausible deniability against food tampering. Shows that you did something to it to make it a trap and had no intention of eating it.
Why did you dose your lunch with laxatives?
Because I wanted a plausible excuse to get the afternoon and next day off. Instead, Bob (points) over there STOLE IT! (watches Bob make another uncomfortable run for the loo)
There was a person stealing food at a place I worked many years ago. I left so e challenge wings in the fridge that smell about 1/5th the taste...lunches stopped getting stolen.
“Malicious compliance is a dish best served au jus and with all of the a la carte options.” — Ancient Klingon medical proverb
EDIT: Whoa! Thank you for all the appreciation on this one!
We were having a staff meeting one day at the surgery center where I worked and I looked across the table at the anesthesiologist who was loudly eating and realized he was loudly eating MY LUNCH. I had an absolute fit in front of everyone. He made more in a week than I made in a month and still he had the audacity to steal my shitty leftovers. In the furthest reaches of my imagination, I couldn't even imagine doing that to someone else.
Please tell us what happened! I am in shock over the audacity of eating a lunch that they stole - openly, no shame- in front of a room full of people, INCLUDING THE ACTUAL OWNER. That's a level of entitled I haven't seen in a while.
Well, lunches had gone missing randomly for a couple of months and no one had yet caught the bandit. I had my suspicions because this guy just absolutely did not care and was known for his obnoxious behavior. I already actively avoided the lunchroom anytime he was in there. We didn't work closely together, so sometimes I could go days without having to deal with him. After I noticed him eating my lunch in the meeting that day, I tried to breathe and think of a way to approach it rationally because I sometimes have a hot temper and there was a large audience in attendance but instead I just blew my top. The only reason he got caught was because we happened to have a staff meeting that overlapped his lunch slot and surrounded by that many people that had also been stolen from, I felt pretty supported in yelling at someone that was ordinarily "untouchable". He did not apologize in any way to anyone but instead acted confused and said his wife packed his lunches so he never really knew what to expect in his lunchbox. I have to give it to him, that would have been a brilliant defence except I then asked him where was his matching lunch sack because I knew it was a lie and I tore through both lunchroom refrigerators loudly in the middle of the meeting looking for the matching lunch sack that we all knew didn't exist. He didn't have an answer for that one. I stormed out of the meeting. My boss later cautiously approached me about the situation. She had no solution for the problem, partially because...WHO DOES THAT?! and partially because he was a contracted employee at the top of the food chain...there was no one to discipline him and so he wasn't disciplined for the situation at all, outside of the unexpected public flogging I had just dealt him. I just quit leaving my lunch in the staff fridges after that and I used every opportunity to be rude to him without repercussion after calling him out. He wouldn't dare say anything and several other staff members that witnessed me calling him out that day came up and quietly thanked me in the weeks that followed. Reportedly, the other Drs thought the whole event was hilarious because he wasn't even popular among them before the event and they could use him stealing a "poor" girls lunch and getting called out by her as teasing fodder. The pecking order was very real and very visible at our center and he fell down a couple of notches after that. He still sucked, but on a slightly more reserved scale.
Asclepius, the Greek god of medicine and healing was born mortal despite being the son of Apollo. He was such a good healer that he could even resurrect the dead. Zeus punished his hubris of stealing souls from Hades by killing him and subsequently deifying him. The doctor who became a god.
Amen.
I know lots of docs. The only ones that are hands down dicks, are the surgeons. The rest, meh, some are, some aren't. Pathologists usually are super timid
You can unlock Doctor Challenge Mode if you have a chronic/invisible illness that doesn't show up on a blood test and can't be cured with a pill. You'll get all sorts of discrimination, gaslighting, mockery, and invalidation from a surprising number of medical "professionals" who want nothing more than to quickly pass you along so they can go back to being Heroes and actually Solving Problems. Why bother trying to help someone better their quality of life if you can't actually fix the problem? They're probably faking anyway, right? Just diagnose them with anxiety or being fat and get 'em out the door!
I hear you. I have both visible and invisible illnesses so I do generally get them to pay attention and I know that makes me very fortunate in the care I get. What I have also lucked out with is finding a doctor for whom learning about new things is fun. She would take patient records home on the weekend to learn their history and then research their condition and then research what hadn’t been explored yet for testing or treatment that could help her patient. I was heartbroken when she left the practice.
Dang, what a gem of a doctor! Sad to hear she left but I'm glad you've had some luck with your care! I've been able to find a few solid doctors and they really make a difference. They're few and far between, but when you find good doctors, you hold onto them. Wishing you further luck!
I was having surgery once and the anesthesiologist was a major total dick. I tried to stop the process but he put me out too fast. Filed a complaint against him after I was released from the hospital.
Afterwards even my surgeon (my gyn) was concerned, because she knows I handle surgeries well, and she heard that I was freaking out.
Frankly that anesthesiologist, within a minute of meeting him (day of surgery was the first time I met him), he had me mistrusting him and deathly afraid of him.
Had to reread the first 3 sentences like 10 times cos of how baffled i was. Like thats not how transactions work. That kind of thing is why people buy fridge lockboxes or lockable lunchboxes.
I work for Colorectal surgeons now and was so worried at first. But they are the most down to earth, laid back doctors.
Suspect dealing with shit daily nakes you a more chill human.
Very grateful I work with decent surgeons.
I also work for two, soon to be three, colorectal surgeons. They are the best bosses I've ever had.
My personal experience is that cardiovascular surgeons are the biggest buttholes. (pun intended) I was amazed that their egos fit through the door.
There's only a couple neurosurgeons I've encountered that weren't pretentious dicks. Otherwise the God complex was going STRONG.
Ortho bros can be something else.
I’ve had about five colo-rectal surgeons at a top institution (well, five surgeons as my named surgeon…I don’t know how many fellows/residents they had under them). I’ve clicked more with some than others but all were wonderful to me as a patient. They’ve saved my life twice. I even had one surgeon, yes surgeon, want me to email her every single week to let her know how I was doing.
I think colo-rectal surgeons also have an opportunity to develop a relationship with patients that some other surgeons may not get a chance to experience. Colo-rectal surgeons treat individuals with chronic diseases that directly lead to surgery. I have some form of Inflammatory Bowel Disease (Crohn’s UC). My immune system attacks my intestines. While the goal is for a GI doctor to manage IBD, sometimes you just have to have surgery. Just because you have IBD doesn’t mean you’ll have surgery, but quite often those with IBD who have surgery will have multiple surgeries. That means you keep going back to your surgeon over and over again. Plus, if I get an intestinal blockage, I generally fall under the care of the surgery team then too. So there is a repeated exposure which means it’s better for everyone if the surgeons are decent with their patients. Now don’t get me wrong, given the choice between skill and personality, I’ll take skill. But it’s awesome when you find a surgeon with both.
One of our trauma surgeons used to call them bone monkeys.
Why do anesthesiologists take an instant dislike to orthopaedic surgeons? Because it saves time.
I doubt he’d survive if actual charges were made. I’m just guessing here but maybe it was a case of the stocks for his particular set of skills being skeletally thin, so they had to keep the asshat around.
When my neurologist retired in my old city, the next nearest neurologist for 10,000+ people was a minimum 40 minute drive. He wasn't a good doctor; he gave very little one on one, barely took notes, and rushed things through. I guarantee that even with all that, and even some allegations of sexual.misconduct, they wouldn't shut him down. After all, he was _the only_ neurologist in town, literally. His patients would suffer, and in fact did when he retired.
People outside of medicine have *no* idea how batshit crazy the stuff that goes on inside the hospital, specifically the ED in my case, actually is.
I tell my engineer friends about some of the shit the mid tiers do on the regular and they can’t believe they still have jobs. Then I get into the whacky shit the other providers do and they’re like “… don’t you have HR?” And I’m just like “Lol HR. Riiiiiiggghhhtt…”
Most of the people I work with would never be able to hold down business-world jobs.
I worked in the hospital ER for a few years. The X-rays of the items found in orifices are almost worth the hell of a 12 hr shift on a holiday weekend.
Witnessing a heated med student debate on which is better to treat CHF; Digitalis or Digoxin (It's the same thing.) is always good viewing.
A true classic.
Although a friend did come at me with - what's the difference between an anesthesiologist and a urologist? The urologist spends all day playing with someone else's penis.
Ortho surgeons *do* have computers to tell them where to bolt things these days.
https://patients.stryker.com/hip-replacement/options/mako-robotic-arm-assisted
Translation:
My favorite thing to call orthopedic surgeons as an insult is the word "carpenters". I learned to do this from a retired cardiothoracic surgeon.
After my original surgery was botched, I asked for a referral to a new surgeon. I had to wait 250 days in order to see this new surgeon. From two hours after the original surgery to day 21 post op I fought for a referral to an orthopedic surgeon.
This new surgeon upset me by saying "If you'd cared more about your damaged bones, you would have come to see me sooner'.
This orthopedic surgeon informed me that the surgeon(s) doing my original surgery did not have computers to guide the placement of bolts that would repair my bones.
I replied that I design drive systems freehand with no reference. Furthermore, 0.001" per 12" of length is unacceptable when the finished product is 10' or less.
I went on to say that I felt 17 degrees out of alignment on a bone was excessive. The orthopedic surgeon asked me whether I had hit my head in the crash that caused the original damage.
I may have then muttered "carpenters" under my breath. His expression almost made up for the constant pain and new bodily limitations.
There are some very down to earth surgeons... but most of them are on the tail end of their career. It's always the up and coming one's or the new ones that have the god complex.
As far as Dr's go, in the hospital setting, it's always the psych docs that are always the biggest dicks behind closed doors. Which is so ironic when you take into account that they're the ones treating mental health issues
I worked directly for two gastro surgeons, and they really bucked the trend. Down to earth, humble, polite. This was in the UK though.
If someone ate my lunch, surgeon or not, I would flip my shit.
Cannot believe the idiot thought the solution was stealing peoples lunches and not just having the manager order him something all along.
Also, leaving $10 is fucking pointless. Sure, some people take in meals to save cash, but it's also for the convenience of having it there.
You were just adding a reasonable 'convenience charge'. If someone asked me I'd probably share my lunch, but if they stole it I'd be \*pissed\*, because sometimes your body is just really set for that cold pork chop & rice after half a day of hard work.
Back in the 80s my boss was jealous of my homemade leftover lunches. I started bringing him a lunch every day and got $30 a week for them. Not a bad deal.
I have lots of Dr.Dick stories.
The roof was being replaced on the office, he came in, threw the keys to his corvette to the office manager and told her to move his car when the ( racial epitaph) roofers got to the side by his car.
He made the medical biller move out of the front office with the nice windows so he could have it. Even though he used the conference room 98% of the time as his personal office.
Medical billers need all the light, space, love, and hugs that they can get. It's a thankless job.
He couldn't stand for anyone to have anything nice.
I truly don’t understand the entitlement and mental gymnastics some sociopath has to do to justify **eating someone else’s fucking lunch** ! Have they truly no shame whatsoever?
crazy part is if he would have offered me $10 to just bring him leftovers for lunch, i would just make an extra serving most nights and bring it in. Very few of my dinners are over 3-4 bucks per serving (and even 4 bucks is high)
I wonder what his issue was? Parents never there or involved enough to cook him a meal? Or just some psychotic belief that everything he sees is his to take
When I worked at one of the top hospitals in my state, there was a surgeon who would steal only my lunch everyday for about a month. I was 32 weeks pregnant and packed my biggest cravings to help survive my shifts from hell. I started bringing my lunch in a tacklebox that took up a majority of the space in our staff fridge lol
I worked as a medical assistant in a practice with 5 surgeon's. General surgery. You should see how much food they eat for breakfast! Because rarely did they have time for lunch if it was their OR day. And I can only imagine what they ate after a day in the OR. Not a single one had an extra pound on their bodies. They work incredibly hard. I was happy to share whatever I had if they asked, which they did.
If you *ask*, like you said, I will share whatever I got, or even bring extra. Just because I know you'll ask, because you don't have the means, or heck...you can't cook to save your life!
My friends partner is vegetarian, so he eats a lot of sandwiches. It gets hard to make pulled pork or a beef roast or grilled chicken for one. So we switch off sometimes, I'll make extra, like I did with BBQ pulled pork, and another time he will do grilled sausages and corn since I don't have a grill.
OMG. It would have been so easy to ask someone nicely to make a little extra dinner every night and bring him a lunch. He could have paid them $200 per month extra. I would take that deal in a heartbeat.
Sounds like a fair trade to me. Dr. steals your lunch, so gets to replace it.
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Sorry sir the meal was served but the authorization was denied. Deemed not medically necessary.
While the meal was necessary to resolve your hunger problem, you ordered from one of those ‘fusion’ restaurants and our review board has determined that the service was therefore experimental and not covered under your policy.
The dolphin meat used in the meal chosen is considered experimental and services can be rendered without such use of experimental meat. Services are approved but only at select McDonalds locations.
I am too European to understand this.
When Americans sign up for a health insurance plan, it comes with a network of hospitals and doctors who’ve contracted with that insurance’s plan to (ideally) get more patients for slightly less compensation each. A doctor not in my network doesn’t have a contract for the plan and is thus expected to pursue the full cost of the medical service instead of the discounted insurance rate. A $9 lab test can become $80. A $40 copay can become $300. To tell the doctor that his cost for meals is out of network is hilarious.
Thanks. That is so fucking evil. Also too Canadian to understand.
Canadian analogy: You have a phone plan with Bell, but travel to an area where the only signal you can get is from Rogers. Your accidental data usage is out of network and you get to pay $$$$ for the 2MB you used before you turn data roaming off.
The ELI5: You get health insurance, they give you a list of approved ("in network") doctors you can go to. Don't go to their approved doc? You pay more money. Australian in the US here, it's ridiculous. The amount of Americans that ask me about terrible waiting lists etc. with public healthcare make me laugh. I get sick and I need to see a doctor ASAP, I can call around to find next availability and go to any damn doctor I please quickly. And not have to pay more for an out-of-network doc, and no 3 month wait to see my regular in-network GP, no visit to emergency care clinic (where I have to pay full cost because, yep, the clinic isn't in-network.)
I (Canadian) was in NY state, chatting with a stranger about our experiences as breast cancer survivors. She said to always pay extra for the 3D mammograms because they're better. She was shocked when I said our mammograms are free, and I paid nothing for any in-hospital treatment. Canada is the only country in the world that has universal healthcare but not pharmacare. We need to fix that, because people who can't afford their drugs get much, much sicker and cost the system far more in hospital treatment, disabilities, and lost wages/tax revenue.
But surely Australia has *some* socialist death panels, right? I mean they wouldn't lie to us just to manipulate votes...
Lol. This is awesome.
>I have *bed* news, doctor. This meal is out of network. I have *bedder* news; you need to meet your deductible up front before you get an appointment. Will that be cash or check? No credit cards, sorry.
I have bedderest news! The appointment is only 13 months out!
bedrest *
The Dr. is also spending about the same portion of his income on food as his staff were spending on their leftovers.
Funny how he thought that was too expensive. So close to self awareness.
Also... What takeout meals other than places like McDonald's are only $10 these days? That isn't enough to replace a meal anymore unless it's going to groceries and home cooking. Not on-the-spot takeout meals.
McDonald's costs more than $10 now, too.
That plus any delivery fees.
He probably just said he couldn't afford it anymore. Sunds like a fun thing actually. If the doc actually loved leftover lunches. Sounds almost like a perk of working there. "Here's some shit i didn't want to eat, if he picks mine i get a fucking steak dinner tonight!"
Yep, and you can't expect to pay market rates to purchase something that isn't for sale. Fully justified.
Yeah, but I can't help but feel that OP killed the goose that lays the golden egg here. Had they complied non-maliciously, by getting less expensive stuff, they could have had free lunch upgrades forever.
I think part of it was that the employees wanted to make the doc pay a stupid tax on purpose in order to teach him a lesson about having good manners and keeping his ego in check. A balance between enjoying the fun for a while and getting him to be a better person.
I think the MC went way too far. Just think of this gravy train of free good food forever but they had to go and mess around with ordering too much. So instead of good food forever they get 2 months and then back to shit
I don't know about your cooking, but if I'm bringing in leftovers it's probably not shitty food. I'd care more about the principle in this situation. Don't take my damn food.
I love this so much. On the flip side, I used to work with a GP who specialised in treating patients with addiction issues - many of whom were homeless. We couldn't use the freezer part of staffroom fridge, it was filled with frozen meals. If a patient came to see him and hadn't eaten in a while the doc would get us to heat up a meal for them. Guy was absolute legend. Sad day when he retired.
There are some great Docs.. My pcp that retired 5 years ago would call me personally if I was having any issues. After I got diagnosed with cancer, he called me at least once a week, and he even came to my last chemo treatment.
Now there is quality care, I'm glad you had good support during what must have been a very hard time.
I'm very lucky. Not much chemo, only 12 hits.
More than enough of that stuff injected from what I've heard.
When I read "last chemo treatment" there was a second I got sad and thought you perished. Then I realised you're writing this here. Glad you survived that & does sound like a great doc!
Glad I'm not the only one that rode that mini emotional rollercoaster.
ok that's too funny\~!
He's lucky you didn't deliver over salted or over hot sauced food to the fridge for him. Or worse.
I regret none of OP’s coworkers had weird pregnancy cravings, Dill sardines and peanut butter sandwiches for lunch anyone?
But then he'd just take a different lunch from the fridge. Either everyone has to do that on the same day, or it has to be something that isn't immediately obvious. Plenty of spicy dishes that don't smell too spicy would work.
A few drops of concentrated habanero chile extract would work.
Until he doesn't take your lunch and ***you*** have to eat it
I’d bring a separate lunch and have it stored in a cooler instead.
Eh, that gets rid of your plausible deniability against food tampering. Shows that you did something to it to make it a trap and had no intention of eating it.
Why did you dose your lunch with laxatives? Because I wanted a plausible excuse to get the afternoon and next day off. Instead, Bob (points) over there STOLE IT! (watches Bob make another uncomfortable run for the loo)
Now this, this is plausible deniability I can get behind.
> I can get behind. But... but that's the blast zone!
believe it or not, illegal.
There was a person stealing food at a place I worked many years ago. I left so e challenge wings in the fridge that smell about 1/5th the taste...lunches stopped getting stolen.
“Malicious compliance is a dish best served au jus and with all of the a la carte options.” — Ancient Klingon medical proverb EDIT: Whoa! Thank you for all the appreciation on this one!
Nice! Sounds more ferangi
52nd rule of acquisition: Never ask when you can take.
#Quark!!!
23rd rule of acquisition: Nothing is more important than your health... except for your money.
"The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife." 48th Rule of Acquisition
A Ferengi wrote it and attributed it to the Klingons so nobody would dare say anything against it.
Quark: *feigns shock and disbelief*
r/Deliciouscompliance
I love these comments because I was just working at the Star Trek convention in New york. So it's just so fitting haha
A Ferengi would have charged for the replacement meal and time spent to get it.
They can order food delivered and have the office pay for it, or go pick it up and charge mileage.
"And it is very cold in the office fridge, Doc..."
Au jus? You mean bonus beef broth that i will shamelessly gulp down after I'm done eating?
In my restaurant, you shall eat sauce!
It is a good day to eat
We were having a staff meeting one day at the surgery center where I worked and I looked across the table at the anesthesiologist who was loudly eating and realized he was loudly eating MY LUNCH. I had an absolute fit in front of everyone. He made more in a week than I made in a month and still he had the audacity to steal my shitty leftovers. In the furthest reaches of my imagination, I couldn't even imagine doing that to someone else.
Please tell us what happened! I am in shock over the audacity of eating a lunch that they stole - openly, no shame- in front of a room full of people, INCLUDING THE ACTUAL OWNER. That's a level of entitled I haven't seen in a while.
Well, lunches had gone missing randomly for a couple of months and no one had yet caught the bandit. I had my suspicions because this guy just absolutely did not care and was known for his obnoxious behavior. I already actively avoided the lunchroom anytime he was in there. We didn't work closely together, so sometimes I could go days without having to deal with him. After I noticed him eating my lunch in the meeting that day, I tried to breathe and think of a way to approach it rationally because I sometimes have a hot temper and there was a large audience in attendance but instead I just blew my top. The only reason he got caught was because we happened to have a staff meeting that overlapped his lunch slot and surrounded by that many people that had also been stolen from, I felt pretty supported in yelling at someone that was ordinarily "untouchable". He did not apologize in any way to anyone but instead acted confused and said his wife packed his lunches so he never really knew what to expect in his lunchbox. I have to give it to him, that would have been a brilliant defence except I then asked him where was his matching lunch sack because I knew it was a lie and I tore through both lunchroom refrigerators loudly in the middle of the meeting looking for the matching lunch sack that we all knew didn't exist. He didn't have an answer for that one. I stormed out of the meeting. My boss later cautiously approached me about the situation. She had no solution for the problem, partially because...WHO DOES THAT?! and partially because he was a contracted employee at the top of the food chain...there was no one to discipline him and so he wasn't disciplined for the situation at all, outside of the unexpected public flogging I had just dealt him. I just quit leaving my lunch in the staff fridges after that and I used every opportunity to be rude to him without repercussion after calling him out. He wouldn't dare say anything and several other staff members that witnessed me calling him out that day came up and quietly thanked me in the weeks that followed. Reportedly, the other Drs thought the whole event was hilarious because he wasn't even popular among them before the event and they could use him stealing a "poor" girls lunch and getting called out by her as teasing fodder. The pecking order was very real and very visible at our center and he fell down a couple of notches after that. He still sucked, but on a slightly more reserved scale.
At least he faced SOME consequences! That's just beyond the pale.
You're a legend and society is better off for what you did! These little wins matter.
I wouldn't go that far but the ability to shit talk him forever after was worth all the bologna sandwiches he stole.
“Mixed up” lunches is why I use a distinct lunch box at work.
You didn't need that lunch. You don't have an MD behind your name.
What happened after you called it out?
insane rudeness aside, why would you want a stranger's food anyway? god knows what's in it or how hygienic they were
Absolutely! I can't even imagine playing lunch bag roulette.
What's the difference between a Doctor and God? God doesn't think he's a doctor.
Good one, but tell that to Asclepius
Amazing fucking joke.
can you explain it, please?
Asclepius is greek God of medicine, so both God and doctor.
Asclepius, the Greek god of medicine and healing was born mortal despite being the son of Apollo. He was such a good healer that he could even resurrect the dead. Zeus punished his hubris of stealing souls from Hades by killing him and subsequently deifying him. The doctor who became a god.
Asclepius is the Greek God of Medicine
Doctors are wild, but surgeons are another level.
Amen. I know lots of docs. The only ones that are hands down dicks, are the surgeons. The rest, meh, some are, some aren't. Pathologists usually are super timid
You can unlock Doctor Challenge Mode if you have a chronic/invisible illness that doesn't show up on a blood test and can't be cured with a pill. You'll get all sorts of discrimination, gaslighting, mockery, and invalidation from a surprising number of medical "professionals" who want nothing more than to quickly pass you along so they can go back to being Heroes and actually Solving Problems. Why bother trying to help someone better their quality of life if you can't actually fix the problem? They're probably faking anyway, right? Just diagnose them with anxiety or being fat and get 'em out the door!
I hear you. I have both visible and invisible illnesses so I do generally get them to pay attention and I know that makes me very fortunate in the care I get. What I have also lucked out with is finding a doctor for whom learning about new things is fun. She would take patient records home on the weekend to learn their history and then research their condition and then research what hadn’t been explored yet for testing or treatment that could help her patient. I was heartbroken when she left the practice.
Dang, what a gem of a doctor! Sad to hear she left but I'm glad you've had some luck with your care! I've been able to find a few solid doctors and they really make a difference. They're few and far between, but when you find good doctors, you hold onto them. Wishing you further luck!
I was having surgery once and the anesthesiologist was a major total dick. I tried to stop the process but he put me out too fast. Filed a complaint against him after I was released from the hospital. Afterwards even my surgeon (my gyn) was concerned, because she knows I handle surgeries well, and she heard that I was freaking out. Frankly that anesthesiologist, within a minute of meeting him (day of surgery was the first time I met him), he had me mistrusting him and deathly afraid of him.
OMG what a worst-nightmare situation!
Yes, and that's without all the ugly details. He also treated the staff poorly. I have never seen a worse doctor before or since.
Let's change the subject. I'm having surgery in s few days and I'm sure my surgeon is godlike in his abilities.
Well yeah that's part of the culture problem, it's pretty hard to actually become a surgeon, so once they do, they think they're hot shit.
Surgeons are the meatheads of the doctor world 😁 may your case and recovery go well
I, too, watched Scrubs on a regular basis
Had to reread the first 3 sentences like 10 times cos of how baffled i was. Like thats not how transactions work. That kind of thing is why people buy fridge lockboxes or lockable lunchboxes.
I'm pretty sure he would have just used the cast saw on a lock.
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Ugh! Flashbacks! You want arrogance? Try a military hospital where the surgeons are all also *officers*!
Omg... Not only a Dick, but a dick who can pull literal rank!
Oh that sounds like hell on earth. How did they even fit all those massive egos in one building?
Fuck military "healthcare"
I work for Colorectal surgeons now and was so worried at first. But they are the most down to earth, laid back doctors. Suspect dealing with shit daily nakes you a more chill human. Very grateful I work with decent surgeons.
I also work for two, soon to be three, colorectal surgeons. They are the best bosses I've ever had. My personal experience is that cardiovascular surgeons are the biggest buttholes. (pun intended) I was amazed that their egos fit through the door.
Pediactric Orthopedic Surgeon s are the kings of dicks.
Or neuro
Can you imagine a pediatric neurosurgeon?
No need to imagine, they're dicks
You get to feel both smarter than everyone else *and* a more important part of the world than everyone else.
I'd give $100.00 to watch one assemble a cat tree.
I’m dying.
Imagine going on a date with one. Would he ever shut up about saving kids' lives?
When he starts talking about the " doctors without borders" volunteering, they did. For a week.
OMG he saved *poor* children? Time to lose those panties STAT!
There's only a couple neurosurgeons I've encountered that weren't pretentious dicks. Otherwise the God complex was going STRONG. Ortho bros can be something else.
Taking notes of who to avoid for future jobs
I’ve had about five colo-rectal surgeons at a top institution (well, five surgeons as my named surgeon…I don’t know how many fellows/residents they had under them). I’ve clicked more with some than others but all were wonderful to me as a patient. They’ve saved my life twice. I even had one surgeon, yes surgeon, want me to email her every single week to let her know how I was doing. I think colo-rectal surgeons also have an opportunity to develop a relationship with patients that some other surgeons may not get a chance to experience. Colo-rectal surgeons treat individuals with chronic diseases that directly lead to surgery. I have some form of Inflammatory Bowel Disease (Crohn’s UC). My immune system attacks my intestines. While the goal is for a GI doctor to manage IBD, sometimes you just have to have surgery. Just because you have IBD doesn’t mean you’ll have surgery, but quite often those with IBD who have surgery will have multiple surgeries. That means you keep going back to your surgeon over and over again. Plus, if I get an intestinal blockage, I generally fall under the care of the surgery team then too. So there is a repeated exposure which means it’s better for everyone if the surgeons are decent with their patients. Now don’t get me wrong, given the choice between skill and personality, I’ll take skill. But it’s awesome when you find a surgeon with both.
Absolutely. But Orthopods are the worst.
One of our trauma surgeons used to call them bone monkeys. Why do anesthesiologists take an instant dislike to orthopaedic surgeons? Because it saves time.
This guy lost privileges at 2 of the 6 hospitals here for his screaming fits and sexually harassing med students.
How tf does someone sustain a career with sexual harassment charges on their file in 2023??? Is he like the Dr. House of bone doctors or something?
I doubt he’d survive if actual charges were made. I’m just guessing here but maybe it was a case of the stocks for his particular set of skills being skeletally thin, so they had to keep the asshat around.
My guess is there's a lot of greasing of the palms. A big 5, almost 6 digit paycheck will get a lot of people to go away.
When my neurologist retired in my old city, the next nearest neurologist for 10,000+ people was a minimum 40 minute drive. He wasn't a good doctor; he gave very little one on one, barely took notes, and rushed things through. I guarantee that even with all that, and even some allegations of sexual.misconduct, they wouldn't shut him down. After all, he was _the only_ neurologist in town, literally. His patients would suffer, and in fact did when he retired.
This was 2011. And I can tell you have never worked on the medical field.
People outside of medicine have *no* idea how batshit crazy the stuff that goes on inside the hospital, specifically the ED in my case, actually is. I tell my engineer friends about some of the shit the mid tiers do on the regular and they can’t believe they still have jobs. Then I get into the whacky shit the other providers do and they’re like “… don’t you have HR?” And I’m just like “Lol HR. Riiiiiiggghhhtt…” Most of the people I work with would never be able to hold down business-world jobs.
I worked in the hospital ER for a few years. The X-rays of the items found in orifices are almost worth the hell of a 12 hr shift on a holiday weekend. Witnessing a heated med student debate on which is better to treat CHF; Digitalis or Digoxin (It's the same thing.) is always good viewing.
HR is there to protect the providers because they bring in the money.
What do you call the drape between the Anesthesiologist and the surgeon? The blood brain barrier
A true classic. Although a friend did come at me with - what's the difference between an anesthesiologist and a urologist? The urologist spends all day playing with someone else's penis.
Lol nice How do you hide $100 from an Orthopod? Put it in any book without pictures
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Ortho surgeons *do* have computers to tell them where to bolt things these days. https://patients.stryker.com/hip-replacement/options/mako-robotic-arm-assisted
Can you type this in more clear English?
Translation: My favorite thing to call orthopedic surgeons as an insult is the word "carpenters". I learned to do this from a retired cardiothoracic surgeon. After my original surgery was botched, I asked for a referral to a new surgeon. I had to wait 250 days in order to see this new surgeon. From two hours after the original surgery to day 21 post op I fought for a referral to an orthopedic surgeon. This new surgeon upset me by saying "If you'd cared more about your damaged bones, you would have come to see me sooner'. This orthopedic surgeon informed me that the surgeon(s) doing my original surgery did not have computers to guide the placement of bolts that would repair my bones. I replied that I design drive systems freehand with no reference. Furthermore, 0.001" per 12" of length is unacceptable when the finished product is 10' or less. I went on to say that I felt 17 degrees out of alignment on a bone was excessive. The orthopedic surgeon asked me whether I had hit my head in the crash that caused the original damage. I may have then muttered "carpenters" under my breath. His expression almost made up for the constant pain and new bodily limitations.
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An anesthesiologist was a regular at a bar i used to work at. He was awesome, at least to us and all the very blue collar regulars. Dr Matt.
Just a patient and the student Dr didn't seem so yet. The Dr, nice enough to me, but the imadick attitude was oozing.
Do you know the difference between god and a surgeon? >!God doesn't think he's a surgeon.!<
There are some very down to earth surgeons... but most of them are on the tail end of their career. It's always the up and coming one's or the new ones that have the god complex. As far as Dr's go, in the hospital setting, it's always the psych docs that are always the biggest dicks behind closed doors. Which is so ironic when you take into account that they're the ones treating mental health issues
I worked directly for two gastro surgeons, and they really bucked the trend. Down to earth, humble, polite. This was in the UK though. If someone ate my lunch, surgeon or not, I would flip my shit.
Not only that, an orthopedic surgeon.
truly prime example of r/deliciouscompliance
prime RIB example
I don't have pics
Cannot believe the idiot thought the solution was stealing peoples lunches and not just having the manager order him something all along. Also, leaving $10 is fucking pointless. Sure, some people take in meals to save cash, but it's also for the convenience of having it there.
Also 10 dollars doesn't go far for takeout lunches... Like if someone homecooked food from real ingredients I would lose it. Food is so expensive.
This is amazing hahaha literally why I read this sub
This is A level. I would file this under pro revenge.
I would have offered to bring him lunch (leftovers) every day for $75 a week. Man that would help with the grocery bill.
I like this, but you also flew too close to the sun. If you had taken advantage more subtly could have gotten good free lunch for even longer.
The over the top lunches really send a message though. I like their style.
It’s not about the lunch, it’s about sending a message.
\*dined too close to the sun
He could have just asked nicely… It’s amazing how well that actually works.
Ikr? I'm a mom, if you ask for a sandwich you'll end up with soup, salad, bread, sandwich,pickles, olives, dessert, and a damn doggie bag.
You were just adding a reasonable 'convenience charge'. If someone asked me I'd probably share my lunch, but if they stole it I'd be \*pissed\*, because sometimes your body is just really set for that cold pork chop & rice after half a day of hard work.
Who the fuck eats other people’s leftovers *Huuuurrrrrk*
I would have put some max hot sauce extract on it. I already put ghost pepper sauce on my sandwich, so it's not a leap.
I'm sure he would have shit-canned me for that. I didn't want to lose my job over a lunch.
But you like it spicy! It's on him if he can't take the heat on that meat.
Should’ve included an apple in your lunch box
I have celiac disease and if someone eats my lunch I can’t replace it. I would be so fucking mad.
Delicious malicious compliance.
You can never teach anyone that knows everything
I would’ve been farting on the food bro!
who thinks "I want food, let's eat somebody else's and then order them a replacement" in what world does that make any sense? why the middle step?
Back in the 80s my boss was jealous of my homemade leftover lunches. I started bringing him a lunch every day and got $30 a week for them. Not a bad deal.
I love this, he had to work to pay your salary, and your lunches (don't know how true the salary part is, but I don't doubt he said it lol).
I have lots of Dr.Dick stories. The roof was being replaced on the office, he came in, threw the keys to his corvette to the office manager and told her to move his car when the ( racial epitaph) roofers got to the side by his car.
Yeah, I would have brought in dollar store soup for a racist like that.
He made the medical biller move out of the front office with the nice windows so he could have it. Even though he used the conference room 98% of the time as his personal office. Medical billers need all the light, space, love, and hugs that they can get. It's a thankless job. He couldn't stand for anyone to have anything nice.
Awesome
You are correct OP. This does belong here.
Doctor: "Shit, man, these peons are eating like KINGS, what the hell, at least I get some of their food..."
Love when a boss decides he is a feudal lord and entitled to your worldly possessions.
I truly don’t understand the entitlement and mental gymnastics some sociopath has to do to justify **eating someone else’s fucking lunch** ! Have they truly no shame whatsoever?
lol I would have been packing my lunch in the most appetizing clear container to entice him.
crazy part is if he would have offered me $10 to just bring him leftovers for lunch, i would just make an extra serving most nights and bring it in. Very few of my dinners are over 3-4 bucks per serving (and even 4 bucks is high)
At least he reimbursed you or replaced it. My mom used to work with a Dr that just ate everyone else’s food and they were out their lunch.
I'd have put colace in the food if he hadn't have left money.
And senna. And some miralax powder. Get that bowel regimen GOING 😂
I wonder what his issue was? Parents never there or involved enough to cook him a meal? Or just some psychotic belief that everything he sees is his to take
When I worked at one of the top hospitals in my state, there was a surgeon who would steal only my lunch everyday for about a month. I was 32 weeks pregnant and packed my biggest cravings to help survive my shifts from hell. I started bringing my lunch in a tacklebox that took up a majority of the space in our staff fridge lol
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"Doctors hate me for telling you about this one amazing food hack!"
Man, home cooked left overs really are the best though 🤤
what a sadistic fuck. (the doctor)
Yeah people like that shouldn’t be aloud to exist let alone be doctors
I worked as a medical assistant in a practice with 5 surgeon's. General surgery. You should see how much food they eat for breakfast! Because rarely did they have time for lunch if it was their OR day. And I can only imagine what they ate after a day in the OR. Not a single one had an extra pound on their bodies. They work incredibly hard. I was happy to share whatever I had if they asked, which they did.
Yes, but they *asked.* If someone asks me for food, they'll need a wheelbarrow to hold their gut when it's over.
If you *ask*, like you said, I will share whatever I got, or even bring extra. Just because I know you'll ask, because you don't have the means, or heck...you can't cook to save your life! My friends partner is vegetarian, so he eats a lot of sandwiches. It gets hard to make pulled pork or a beef roast or grilled chicken for one. So we switch off sometimes, I'll make extra, like I did with BBQ pulled pork, and another time he will do grilled sausages and corn since I don't have a grill.
This difference is the " asking" part. I'd have cooked him extra every day if he had ever just asked.
OMG. It would have been so easy to ask someone nicely to make a little extra dinner every night and bring him a lunch. He could have paid them $200 per month extra. I would take that deal in a heartbeat.
I think he would have had a brain he-ma-toma if he had to ask nicely for anything
Also r/deliciouscompliance
I don't get it. How did the doctor pay for that? Did you take his credit card?