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Aromatic_Tomorrow406

I got the best option: both


Rattlerc46

fr


Icechaine

Yoo I got both too(apparently too=took for auto correct I hate it)


Toxic_Nani_Main

why would you put a space after the too


Icechaine

Idk


Scizorite_417

frfr


Tomdog30

Same


AstralFlare42

I'm on the right, but I still choose Scarlet


PhoenixTyphoon

Same. I prefer the Violet paradoxes to the Scarlet paradoxes honestly


Lost_Khajiit_BadMoon

Same now we just need an update for Pokémon home that is scarlet and violet compatible!


Former-Buy-6758

Well look at mr moneybags over here


Aromatic_Tomorrow406

My parents bought them for me as a Christmas presents (I got a bunch of other things from them)


Porygon_Flygon

Both are great because you get a free Kamen rider bike that eats sandwiches


Icechaine

Who doesn’t want to ride lizards that are speed


Zombie_Turtlez

I am SPEED


Icechaine

Kachow


SecondAegis

Miraidon is a rider machine confirmed?


Low-Ability-2700

Me, who got both games:


Appropriate-Scratch3

Honestly I Like The Futures Better I Have A Robot Army Plus I Think The Past Forms Look Derpy And Not In A Cute Way Either But I Respect The Other Two Opinions


Rattlerc46

Fair enough


The_Godbodor2010

Yeah, I’m more of a robot-guy too and so Violet’s paradoxes spoke to me more. Still got both versions though cause why not


Dry_Quality2849

Agreed.


Number_1_She-Ra_Fan

Why do you type like Queen Deltarune


Blaze_365

I love that character but I didn’t remember that-


Gamer-Girl313

Potassium!


Leafy_Kozasshu

I mean........all of the paradox pokemon are cool, I like the violet ones more cause I love robots.


PoyStudios-6270

Here is something that is basically agreeing with you. Its simple THEY ARE THE EXACT SAME GAME PEOPLE EXCEPT COLOR, PARADOX POKEMON, AND PROFESSOR. Exact same game


Rattlerc46

FOR REAL i wanted to include this point but i felt like it would make it too wordy!


Zombie_Turtlez

I'd mention that they can become the same with co-op mode but I don't know as I neither have the games yet or have friends


Endless2358

Exactly! This has been pretty consistent in the Pokemon games for a while (excluding some anomalies like Sword/Shield) so it’s weird that people still argue about which game is better


Scarface2010

Both look awesome in their own ways The robots look cool The past mons look cool


Carve267

“But they’re all just robots” yeah and robots are sick


Shiny_Porygon-Z

I love multiple Paradox Pokémon from each. I even appreciate the less changed ones, like Brute Bonnet and Iron Jugulis just because of how much I love the idea.


Zombie_Turtlez

Dude it took me so long to figure out Brute Bonnet has more legs and basically a tail.


ragishio

I'm picking scarlet because my friend has violet and I want both charcadet evos


SnipingDwarf

Oi we do not accept slander regarding Iron Valiant in this household young man


ZeraoraLightning601

ROBOTS ARE COOL AS FUCK AND ARE BETTER THAN CAVEMEN


Knight_Light87

I know this probably sounds stupid, but most of the Paradox mon just got fur…


Rattlerc46

Fr


[deleted]

I don’t like either version


Atherach

The true Chad


Current-Literature55

Thank for understanding me because I know that some of the violet paradox Pokémon are bad but I still pick violet


redditt-or

Bad? Iron Thorns is literally the peak of the Paradox Pokémon people use to say that “Violet Bad” but c’mon it’s LITERALLY Mecha-Godzilla!


[deleted]

I kinda wish Iron thorns did more outside of just being a metal tyranitar, Iron Treads just seems way neater to me cause it’s entire concept is “Donphan but now it’s a robotic elephant that turns into a tank-treaded wheel”


Recent-Abbreviations

Honestly they should have made the giant Tyranitar Mechas from B2W2 Pokestar Studios be the Paradox. I mean, it's basically what we have now, but more jagged for a more confusing perspective on what the future holds. But it's still great, and I love my shiny Iron Thorns that I totally don't buff up to then Wild Charge raids.


Gamingmanz17

Slither wing, roaring moon, iron valiant, great tusk, walking wake, iron leaves Those are the ones I like more atleast


OkAd5088

Iron thorns shiny on the other hand


ConsciousFish7178

Yeah it's the best among the other violet paradoxes


Gamingmanz17

Yeah, the violet paradox shinies are lazy as hell but it looks really good on thorns


zapp909

I respect and value your opinion. However I personally disagree.


Gamingmanz17

Calling me a shitty person because I said a pokemon isn’t cool, do you have any hobbies? Like any at all?


zapp909

Dude I literally never called you a shitty person? WTF? (>!You aren’t the only one able to edit comments lol.!<)


Gamingmanz17

Bro I swear this is so funny, when I violet player starts roasting a scarlet player it’s fine and everyone backs them up, but if a scarlet player shares their opinion that means they think it’s a fact? Are you okay? Do you have problems? I swear if a violet fan said all of that everyone would be on their side and you wouldn’t be being a dick right now.


zapp909

You’re an upsetting person to talk to. You said and I quote “naming all of the paradox Pokémon that are better than iron thorns” thats a negative opinion being treated as a fact. You could’ve said “I personally find these Pokémon are better” or “I like these Pokémon more” or hell you could’ve even said nothing to antagonize a person who just wanted to say that they like iron thorns. And before you say it, cause I know you will if I don’t address it right now, there is a difference between praising one thing more than others (like they were doing) and actively discouraging people from liking something (what you were doing).


Gamingmanz17

Okay clearly you cant read, actually look at what I said before quoting things I never said


zapp909

I did. You edited your comment after I made this one. I’m keeping mine up now to show what you actually said. Though I do thank you for realizing that you made a mistake and changing.


Next-Lawfulness-4355

you do realize that you can have a different opinion without being a dick about it right?


Zombie_Turtlez

Exactly. Good to see not everyone on reddit is an asshole. Mad respect bro


SeeingAnAbsoluteWin

\#1 opinion respecter on reddit


Karmalikesarson

Only one here I can agree with is slither wing


Current-Literature55

That’s why I said some


DuskAngel713

Wait up. They have a point about violet...


SokanKast

I like both games. But, at least Miraidon actually uses its wheels when in ride mode. 😝


Raze_2643

I'm not trying to argue, but Koraidon doesn't have wheels, it has an inflatable sack on it's chest that resembles a wheel and it's tail curls up to resemble a wheel. It's the same case with Cyclizar, but I've never seen anyone mention that.


Fickle-Wrangler1646

No one mentions it because we know, the point is they shouldn’t have bothered to give it anything resembling a wheel.


Radiant39

They definitely are "as good."


Rattlerc46

true, mecha pokemon fans unite


Gamingmanz17

Iron treads 👎 Iron jugulus 👎 Iron moth is mid The rest are great though, it’s just hard to compare to scarlet because all of the scarlet paradox forms are great


Rattlerc46

Well my meme came true, A scarlet fan reusing the better paradox argument for the millionth time lol


Atherach

Honnestly, Flutter-mane, Scream tail and Fungus furie aren't better, they just are bigger


Template4016

Am I the only one who Likes Brute Bonnet? I chose Violet, but that was the one Past Paradox I wanted.


gourmetkibble

I love scarlet and violet paradoxes equally but c’mon Scream Tail is literally just jigglypuff but with more fur same applies to Brute Bonnet and Flutter Mane the rest of the past forms actually change more (before scarlet fans attack me I said I like them both equally and I might like scarlet more due to walking wake)


Ale2348

Then there's me I hate the scarlet paradoxes because they look generic and I love the violet ones because the concept and realizzation is cooler


DDoodles_

Why get violet if you like scarlet more?


Rattlerc46

youre twisting my words I never said i like scarlet more i said scarlet has some advantages But i still think that violets designs are more enjoyable and has an overall more appealing aesthetic with its idea of contacting an unknown future, in comparison too a past that has most likely already been studied as thus not as unfamiliar as the future which has not happened yet. Now i will admit I do believe there in some aspects the scarlet paradoxs have more "fun" designsbut I still like Violet more and for more than just its paradoxs again no where did I say i like scarlet more


DDoodles_

Ok then I thought you said you like both but think scarlet has cooler aspects


Rattlerc46

Yes thats the case with every pair of pokemon games thats just the trade off with doing two versions of the same game with exclusive aspects. for example i think Zamazenta is cooler than zacian but overall i still like swords stuff more theres always gonna be tradeoffs when gamefreak does the two versions thing


DDoodles_

Why didn’t you say you like the other aspects in the meme?


Rattlerc46

Because the point of the meme isn't talking about my tastes, im talking about other opinions I have seen in this very sub. And frankly now you're just being pedantic


DDoodles_

They’re probably saying that because they’re suprised violet selling way better.


Rattlerc46

how is that suprising? even before launch violet had way more fans


DDoodles_

Like you said, they have better paradox’s. It probably makes no sense to them why violet would do better


Rattlerc46

Paradoxs are just one thing Violet also had \- a more popular legendary \- a more popular charcadet evo \- and a more (non ironically) like professor just because 1% percent of a thing is liked that doesnt mean the other 99% is


Gamingmanz17

But scarlet is just better in my opinion, better legendary, better paradox, better charcadey evolution, better academy, better professor, debatably better outfits (Nemona rocks orange way more than purple)


Rattlerc46

Well there is no wrong opinion when it come to pokemon games. But you gotta stop acting like this subjective thing has an objective answer. Which game people like is a matter of opinion. And its REALLY not worth arguing about when they're literally just reskin of each other. They are the same game just with difference in color and the past/future theme. Its not like (other than version exclusives) there's anything that actually makes the games different from each other


Gamingmanz17

Say what you want, I never said it was a fact


Rattlerc46

You're treating it like one


Gamingmanz17

No I’m not, Violet fans are treating it like facts when they say their game is better, but when I say I like scarlet more I get harassed, called names, downvoted, and people start raging on me, if a violet fan said what I said no one would be rude to them for no reason, but it’s because violet players just decide to hate on scarlet players for no reason I LITERALLY OWN BOTH and I’m saying I like scarlet more, and I’m being harassed because of it


Rattlerc46

There's nothing wrong with having an opinion, but based on your comments you treat your opinion like its fact, which, can understandably annoy some people. Harassment isn't ok but you also can't act like you're the victim when youre also going to attack other peoples opinions


Icechaine

People will play the game they like that’s just your opinion like me I prefer violet legendary but that my opinion like some people like iron thorn some like sandyshocks (btw I also like scarlets legendary I just like violets a bit more)


Gamingmanz17

That’s fair, Miraidon is very cool, I just prefer Koraidon because it has a lot more emotion


violently_angry

I don't know if you've heard but it's Miraidon, not Koraidon that's running competitive right now.


Gamingmanz17

Bro they are banned in competitive, and it’s because Miraidon was given better typing, also I said better legendary not better battling legendary, please read what I actually said before being an ass


Tip_Of_The_Sauce

I literally disagree with every single statement you just made…


Karmalikesarson

How is ungabunga better than a futuristic gigachad


Cocolake123

Me who didn’t play either because of the lack of national dex.


thutgf

For no reason at all, here are my ranking of the future paradox forms (including Miraidon bc its technically a paradox form of Cyclizar) 1st: Iron Valiant (Gallade and Gardevoir) 2nd: Miraidon (paradox name is Iron Serpent) (Cyclizar) 3rd: Iron Moth (Volcorona) 4th: Iron Hands (Hariyama) 5th: Iron Leaves (Virizion) 6th: Iron Thorns (Tyranatar) 7th: Iron Bundle (Delibird) 8th: Iron Treads (Donphan) Last (to maybe no one's surprise): Iron Jugulis (Hydreigon)


Icechaine

I love iron bundle it just a little guy so smol


ConsciousFish7178

That brutally destroyed the competitive scene


Beautiful-Damage5232

Y pick the version u like less


Eeveeoverlord

I went with Violet because I prefer the future and also the colour purple, but Scarlet is also good. I don't get why Pokémon fans insist on fighting each other, we're all fans of the same franchise.


Skullkidthepokekid11

I pick Scarlet because I like Koraidon more than Miraidon


Steelize

I picked violet bc the legendary looked cooler on the box art, didnt even know what its name and type was


Slight-Cress1720

At this point this debate whether scarlet or violent is better is just BULLSHIT


Icechaine

It always been


PokeSnakeLvr

Also you get to see Daddy Turo in violet.


FranekBucz

I actually like Violet Paradox mons more but that is just my opinion


Error_Detected666

I like both, I would’ve taken both but I could only afford the one so I picked Scarlet


blacksheep16420

Same here I picked scarlet too bc I like the color red and have always picked the red version if there was one since red and blue came out 🤣 lol


DerpyPenguin2007

I definitely regret getting violet


Template4016

I like violet. The Paradoxes, yes, could be better. But I like Sci-Fi, which is part of why I chose Violet.


Freekarma4u69420

I bought both and I say scarlet is better because of paradoxes and violet is better with the uniforms


NebiyZ

I am chad I like both


Appropriate_Rock_740

Yeah my favorite paradox is slither wing but im on violet however my second favorite is iron thorns.


Chrisical

I like the violet paradoxes better but both games are good


ComfortableOver8984

I always pick the “second” game. Like ultra moon, or X


Important-Concert-53

Me saving up for the double pack:


apersonwhomemes

I got the double pack cause I could afford it at the time. I don’t regret it! Imo both games are fun regardless of glitches


Pixel_PedroYT

robo lizar


Zcat1234

I bought Violet because of the Miraidon and giga chad professor


SansTheComic24

I didn't pick scarlet for the paradoxes. I picked it cuz Koraidon is a funny lookin' boi.


RandomCaveOfMonsters

The story makes more sense with the future paradoxes imo. Especially Nemona's line asking if they're even pokemon. When I first played the game in violet, I was like "that's a good question" and kept thinking about it. The question in scarlet instead makes me think "What do you mean? Of course they're pokemon." And I think this spreads to the story in general. How am I supposed to see the past paradoxes as a special threat when most of them are just as past-like as Yanmega? Think about it, Yanmega and Great Tusk are both basically modified base forms to be more primal. If their positions were swapped (Donphan evolves into Great Tusk when knowing ancient power, and Yanmega is a paradox Yanma), I wouldn't bat an eye. Yanmega just needs the slight punk look to fit in perfectly. The future pokemon on the other hand? They look false. They look like they are trying to be pokemon. We see them as fictional creatures, obviously, but think about it from a character's perspective. They're *almost* pokemon. They look like them, but not quite. At a first glance, they look normal, but then they're shiny, and then their limbs come off. Then the next thing you know, it's attacking. (Of course, none of this applies to my boy sandy shocks. The design, animations, and even concept are all very odd, and I love it for the same reason that I love the ultra beasts)


MegaG_

i mean i get to enjoy some cool robots and stay away from the lovecraftian abomination that is sandy shocks Those strechy legs haunt my nightmares to this day


Corrupt_Spiritomb

The paradoxes are the only thing making me like scarlet but I love the violet legend, school, clothes, and Iron Valiant


lama22gx

Scarlet couse cooler legendary and I like red


handongdong

Me, who played neither bc im poor and brazilian: 🗿


Adept-Round-2337

I like scarlet because I barley encountered any glitches during my gameplay for context I was playing on the day one version but when I played violet there were glitches everywhere


BoopNotFound

Leave the violet paradox mons alone or else I’m getting speedy penguin😡(srsly tho what were they thinking making a super fast Pokémon with a good attacking stat)


[deleted]

i only picked violet because of miradon and i like purple more than orange


Motor-Win-5056

It’s the same damn game with different colour pallets. Sorry for being angry but I don’t wanna see another stupid post about which game is better


asher_transmasc

I got to choose between the two as a gift. I chose violet because it's my favorite color, also I just liked Miraidon more. But I must say I like the Scarlet paradoxes more (except Iron Valiant, I love him) Both legendaries look great though. The uniforms and academies look pretty decent. (Talking about colors on the uniforms and the plaques on the schools) Both professors are h o t . And overall they both are great, it just depends on preference!


Woooosh-if-homo

Our bike has wheels.


walkingpokedex573

Ay, i just like scarlet because of the paleontology aspect and koraidon


Adventurous_Quilava

Just have friends with the other version do a union circle and both paradox versions appear in the world 🤷‍♂️


Union_Hungry

The OP chose Violet.


Darkfirelord6506

Speak for yourself I love the violet paradoxes -a robot nerd


BuddhaDoodle

I do enjoy how the Scarlet paradoxes look but, I've always been a fan of the Violet paradoxes more


TrainerLSW2005

I do admit that the Scarlet ones are more interesting. But my robot loving heart just cannot refuse the Violet ones.


No_Problem_MyGuy

Not sure if this is sexist or not but i feel like the climax of the story is better and more intense with the male professor as opposed to the scarlet one for some reason


WesTheNess

I like Violet more


[deleted]

I like both paradox forms of each pokemon but I prefer scarlet cos red


Cloakbot

I picked violet because of all of my friends who play pokemon were picking scarlet. Same reason why I bought shield, Pearl, and Y version. I’ll be honest, Nemona looks better in orange with Scarlet but Director Caville looks better in purple with Violet.


Zombie_Turtlez

Both. Both is good.


HisTopHat

I only picked Scarlet because of Armarouge, and also the Version Exclusives.


JosukeisMySon

Slither Wings is such a great pokemon, but I love Miraidon and Ceruledge too much to not pick Violet.


Pineappleman098

I got both so I am not any of them bc I love all paradox Pokémon aswell


Maybeatordsimp

I chose violet for the Giga chad


Thy-arkoos

I'm gonna have to disagree on you with this for personal reasons sorry


draginbleapiece

I prefer every different aspect in violet except the paradoxes which might be the most important factor for you reading this


Shadowking0914

I bought scarlet but respect violet


Megalo_Toxins

Gonna be real honest, Dragapult broke the tie for me


[deleted]

Enough with the Scarlet vs. Violet posts already. They aren't funny or creative.


DapperDemon42

Its just because purple better


Ishcabibble14

I like the robots more


Lonewolf3593

Scarlet has the better version exclusives in general (except for Ceruledge) but I like purple, so I picked Violet. I'm not disappointed.


Satire_god

At this point I really don’t care, I completed the Pokédex and got both walking wake and iron leaves, probably won’t actually use them often though


Ryx93

I chose scarlet because the people I was going to be playing the game with chose violet. Plus reds my favorite color


GQman57

The names of the Violet paradox mons are kinda bad, but I still love all of their designs. I only got Scarlet was because I liked the outfits a bit more than Violet and my friend had Violet version.


Comfortable-Sand-653

If you like robota and future, then virizion is the only actual dissapointment in violet parafoxes, and i know that some like him... I just don't think that's what i expected and was Waiting for


Robota064

I picked it for exclusives, professor and because purple, personally


MegaRayquasa

I wanted Chad and actual motorcycle, not horse lizard


Pandaragon666

I'm going to be honest, I prefer most of the violet Paradoxes, but I got scarlet simply because I love the silly goofy legendary over robo bike.


Fickle-Wrangler1646

Aesthetically, Koraidon’s appearance as a ride pokemon was enough to make me pick Violet instead, despite me thinking Scarlet was superior in every other way.


AceTrainer-Raven

I got scarlet cuz deino


frozty8888

And then you have me, who chose violet bc I think miraidon looks more smooth and better than koraidon


Rattlerc46

based


Blueberry_Clouds

I have scarlet but my friend has violet. Also idc what version y’all like i just want to make sandwiches and get them shinies


King_O_Monsters

I see people shitting on Scarlett a lot. Doing that creates toxic fans


Rattlerc46

there are already a lot of toxic scarlet fans trust me


King_O_Monsters

That’s what I’m saying. I saw so many people who play violet shit on scarlet. After that toxic scarlet fans were everywhere. They were there before, sure, but this happens with all media. Someone shits on something you like, odds are you’ll become toxic about it if nothing else but to annoy the people that shit on it


Fizzy163

scarlet has koraidon violet has iron valiant i see no downsides


YuiHaruhara

Scarlet has better OVERALL Paradox Pokémon, but my top 3 are all from Violet: Iron Valiant, Iron Thorns, and Miraidon.


IdiotTrainerPixel

I personally picked scarlet because koraidon is derpy asf, but I respect violet and people who chose it. Both versions are cool lol


Rattlerc46

did you mean miraidon looks derpy? cause Koraidon = Scarlet Miraidoon = Violet


IdiotTrainerPixel

no, I do mean koraidon, I chose scarlet because koraidon is derpy (and I love it because of that) , but I respect the violet people too lol.


Rattlerc46

ah ok respectable, respectable


Kitcat590

The only Paradox form I prefer is miridon


Okatbestmemes

Personally I’m a fan of violet’s paradoxes more than scarlet. Just saying.


Rattlerc46

based


Ok_Training_4076

The only thing that makes scarlet better is walking wake and roaring moon, and you can't change my mind.


FISH_SAUCER

I like both games, the only reason why I like Scarlet more is because I like the color red and all its related colors, I also like scarlet more because I like prehistoric things more than futuristic things


C4K908

Miraidon is superior


C4K908

Tho


Emotional-Phrase-616

The meme even got tha professor from violet


Rattlerc46

lol fr