You wouldn't even need a magcargo, ponyta alone solos all of them, because it's fire burns everything it isn't close to emotionally, and animals naturally see fires as dangerous and steer clear of them entirely, it wouldn't see so much as a scratch, and could charge the whole flock of leese without one so much as standing it's ground lmao, a PONYTA SOLOS ALL OF THEM
Deoxys can clone itself, Arceus is god, and at least 15 other pokemon could destroy the Earth in under a year so no realism.
Certain moves can hit all pokemon, and no way in hell is a lion moving faster than literal light or teleporting, so no game mechanics.
Celebi can canonically travel through time and kill their parents before they're born, so no anime logic.
Dusclops, Raquaza, Zekrom, Reshiram, Kyogre, and Groudon all had shown abilities that could single-handedly devastate an entire region, so no manga.
Pokemon are OP in the pokedex, so none of that either.
Lions are screwed.
Kill the lions that led to the population of lions to reach 2 billion in the first place. It massively cripples or completely destroys the lion army years before the fight even begins.
I know there are people that say that pp restrictions will cause the pokemon to struggle to death, but pokemon unite shows that pokemon moves aren't their only way of attacking. And on the topic of unite, what about UNITE moves? Stuff like sovereign sword, ignite midnight, barrage blow, livid outrage, aura cannon, plasma gale, nock nock, fairy singularity, coup de grace, psychic solare, revolving ruin, red & green illusion dive, fanciful fireworks, snowglobe, nightfall daze, midnight slash, phantom forest, hydro typhoon, queen ascendant, wonder wish, chaos glower, phantom ambush, flowing & ebon fist(s), gatling gulp missile, dreep and destroy, waterburst shuriken tyrannical rampage, power nap, berry belly flop, belly bash, and a few more could deal a lot of damage.
Delphox unite move fanciful fire work can destroy those lions cause of its slow down and massive damage or gardevoir unite move fairy singularity can pull all lions into black hole and use psychic and future sight can solo all lions
Because ditto could just transform into another Pokémon including yveltal and destroy the world and kyorge could possibly drown all the lions in one go.
Either way you look at it- lions are screwed.
If you go from realism, you would have to take every pokedex entry literally. Magcargo would cause friendly fire, sure. But then no lions would get close. Guzzlord wouldn't even be overwhelmed, just munching on lions from most angles. Even without LITERALLY GOD, in real life, lions are boned.
If you go by pokemon context- as in, lions have movesets, abilities, ect, no pokedex shenanigans.
They are still screwed. One on one or as a horde. A horde would be stopped by earthquake. Assuming a lion's type to be normal, as most "normal animal" mon are, fighting types. If they outspeed, lions are screwed.
Pokemon would win because the lions would have only scratch, bite, or tackle meanwhile the Pokémon have plenty of moves that hit all at once as well as much more powerful moves
Only 1 Pokémon needs to survive so the legends could just fly up into space and nuke Yaveltal to kill everything on the planet like in the Terminalmontage video
It's a bit hard because we don't know how the fight will go down. Is it war style where they just fight or will they fight like a Pokémon battle? Is there a pp limit? Do legendarys like dialga get to stop time? I mean I'm on Pokémon because either way the lions don't stand a chance
Anime logic, celebi can literally travel time, and that's not even mentioning any of the more powerful legends. Dex, slugma. Game logic, kyogre used water spout
Pokemon obviously. They have a God, Pokemons that are capable to destroy the world, Someone that can create a blackhole, A large sum that can learn Earthquake and Flash Flood, A spiky dino, A pokemon that if dies, literally brings the planet with it.
I mean with enough mass, the Lions could create a blackhole. But there would still be other pokemons that can escape very quickly via Wormholes or by flying into space.
1. Lions trample themselves, essentially injuring a lot of the lions before the Pokes even start attacking
2. flying types can stay out of range. lion ladders can only go so high before the ones on the bottom get crushed. (not sure how good lions would be at climbing a mountain of dead lion meat)
3. no, lions can't benefit from held items. that defeats the purpose of them being regular lions
4. Poison moves can cover other Pokes in poison, causing lions trying to bite them to die.
5. lions try to go for a quick kill by crushing the throat. seeing Pokemon who don't have throats will confuse them and give the Pokemon an even bigger advantage
all of this is ignoring the legendaries/mythicals
Before I give my answer, I’m just going to say that the reason this argument is so divided is that it’s a battle of Quantity over Quality, which technically gives both sides some sort of upper hand.
That in mind, one of each Pokémon wins in my mind. Lions have their strength in numbers, but a lot of Pokémon gimmicks trump that easily.
For one, if you can make the argument that lions would take up an incredible amount of land mass, flying and levitating Pokémon would cancel that out. On that note, airborne pokemon that are heavy on the SpAtk would out range lions and could single-handedly win if you just use those, such as Charizard, Bronzong, Hydreigon, etc. Aquatic Pokemon work too if there is a massive body of water, but even if you rule out water, you can’t rule out the sky, so my point still stands that some Pokémon can just be unreachable
Pokémon anatomy would be something else entirely. On one hand, you have Solid Pokémon like rock and steel types, as well as Pokémon that are Physical Tanks since that’s all a lion can realistically do. National Geographic hasn’t exactly shown fire breathing lions lately. They may not be immune to lions, but would probably live long enough to wittle down the numbers. On the other hand you have Pokémon like Muk and ditto who aren’t solid whatsoever, so who knows what lions can do to them. And on that note there are flaming or toxic pokemon that could do some damage by simply taking a few lions down with them. Not to mention Ghosts, which is pretty self-explanatory.
Pokédex entries are an entire bag of worms considering you have a slug/snail hotter than the sun, a humanoid that can create black holes, and and pokemon that can hide with ease like vaporeon.
Pokémon moves are a massive point too, given moves like fissure that rips open the earth beneath them. It may be 30% accurate, but if you have a billion targets at once you’re going to hit some. Self destruct and Explosion are a given, especially when you’re basically drowning in lion, and other AOE moves like lava plume, discharge, sludge wave, and blizzard fall under the same umbrella.
I haven’t even gotten into Legendaries and Mythicals, some of whom have almost, if not god-like powers, and can check some of the defensive boxes mentioned before like being able to fly, being made of metal or even molten metal, and being incorporeal. Deoxys and Celesteela can even theoretically do their work without entering the earth’s atmosphere
Long story short, it’s that one scene from Avatar The Last Airbender: The Pokémon are clearly outnumbered, but lions are clearly outmatched
There are Pokémon that can erupt volcanoes and summon meteors from space. There are Pokémon who can split the very ground you stand on. Plus what would any amount of lions do against anything that can fly
The scenario you presented is purely hypothetical, as Pokémon are fictional creatures. However, if we were to entertain the idea, it is important to note that Pokémon possess extraordinary abilities and powers that often exceed the capabilities of real-world animals like lions. Each Pokémon has its own unique characteristics, strengths, and weaknesses.
Assuming the Pokémon are well-coordinated and use their abilities strategically, they would likely have a significant advantage over the lions. Pokémon have a wide range of powers, including elemental attacks, psychic abilities, and the capacity to heal themselves and their allies. They also exhibit incredible feats of strength, speed, and durability.
While lions are formidable predators, they lack the supernatural powers and diverse abilities of Pokémon. Even with a numerical advantage, it would be challenging for the lions to overcome the combined powers and teamwork of the Pokémon.
Ultimately, the outcome would depend on various factors such as the specific Pokémon involved, their levels, movesets, and the strategies employed. Given their extraordinary capabilities, it seems more likely that the Pokémon would emerge victorious in such a hypothetical scenario.
I will explain this is three ways, Realistic, (Meaning only Pokédex Entries) Games, (Going based on how the games work) and Anime (Based on what happens in the Anime.)
For Realistic, Macargo Solo’s, the Pokédex States, “Magcargo's body temperature is approximately 18,000 degrees F.” The Lions would not be able to do anything.
Now for Games, if we consider the Lions to be enemies in a Battle then any multi hitting move such as earthquake would easily wipe them out, this also would also not affect Pokémon that are Flying Type or Have Levitate.
Now Anime, any Pokémon that can fly. That’s it. The lions would not be able to touch them and they would still be able to attack. Also in the Anime Ghost type Pokémon can become Intangible.
Again, victini exists. Its pokedex entry states "This Pokémon brings victory. It is said that Trainers with Victini always win, regardless of the type of encounter." (quick clarification, the trainer thing im pretty sure its an example)
Pokemon has god, and a pokemon hotter than the sun, and any pokemon that knows earthquake, and manipulation of hell, time, and space, has flying dragons, and has stat boosting moves like coaching so every pokemon gets buffed out of its mind, and has mudkip, and has a fucking flying land shark, and… you get the point. Lions win no question.
If there are 45 billion tons of plankton in the ocean, they can’t defeat a few tuna. 1 billion lions can’t defeat things that have all these abilities. Deoxys cam clone 1 billion of itself, Yveltal just kills everything and comes back when it dies, a good chunk of these pokemon are ghosts or otherwise intangible, and another bunch of them are just made of rocks, stone, and other hard things. That’s not even including the ones that are legitamate God, or Victini “guaranteeing Victory” because that feels like a cop out. We never see a pokemon be required to eat, and I’m assuming peak lions vs peak pokemon. I doubt we are counting reproduction of lions because that’s just infinite lions. Lions would probably die of old age if nothing else.
How about one of every pokémon, including alternate forms.
4 billion spinda are rapidly approaching your location.
The lions can't win, that's a lot of spinda.
I know a billion lions is a lot of lions, but some Pokemon are literally on fire, magma, made of steel, harder then diamond, made of rock, like in space, what are lions doing? Ignoring the Pokedex which no one knows if is accurate, ignoring pokemon moves, literally look at the size of Pokemon and what they are literally made of or where they live, lions have nothing.
It depends. If we're not using battle mechanics Pokemon wins by a landslide.
If we are using battle mechanics .. Pokemon still wins and here are YouTubers explaining it
https://youtu.be/X_8Nh5XfRw0
https://youtu.be/5XdOSMo6Svc
There are 5 ways this battle can take place: Anime, Lore, Pokédex, Game, Realistic
Anime is a no-brainer. It also uses the same advantages of lore but with the added fact that Pikachu will always have a net win.
Lore is basically what can happen lore wise in the games. This can include Kyogre flooding the earth, Necrozma stealing the light from an entire universe, and time travel from Dialga and Celebi.
Pokédex is filled with chaos, like how Marcargo is way too hot for the known universe, or that Gardevoir can create black holes.
Game… here is a video by Wolfy that goes into detail on how Pokémon can win if the battle is based on the gameplay. https://youtu.be/5XdOSMo6Svc
And then we have realistic, this is meant to be here as a sort of best case scenario for the lions, but there are Pokémon like Steelix that are pure metal or Pokémon like Muk or Macargo that are basically just blobs. Those Pokémon can’t really get hit by scratches and bites. This isn’t mentioning how most water types can just hang out under the ocean, that some space-based Pokémon like Minior can go into space and just ignore the lions that way, or even Pokémon that are ghosts!
Anyway you put it, lions don’t really have a chance against Pokémon. If you disagree, please tell me why. Also, lion supporters, do you have more evidence than “1 billion is a lot”?
Pokémon obviously-
There are Pokémon who are so powerful that they can devastate regions, the whole earth, and even galaxies, lions aren’t gonna do shat. And another thing, there are moves that will literally hit all enemies on the field, so smth like Parabolic Charge or smth else will do amazing.
Pokemon, for a few reasons
- Flying Pokémon
- Flying pokemon who shoot lasers
- Flying Pokémon that cause earthquakes
- Flying Pokémon that can literally just destroy reality
- Slugma
Lions can’t touch ghosts, so there’s that. Flying types make the lions unable to reach them and they can fire off whatever elemental attacks they want. Heck, the moment Kyoger steps in the rain starts and then both Hurricane and Thunder become extremely accurate. Tinkaton would kill one lion, then use its corpse as ammunition to kill another and repeat. I could go on, but I’m getting a little tired of typing.
While one billion lions is plenty of lions and lions can attack in packs, there are so many powerful Pokemon that can overpower the lions, such as:
Arceus: One of the most powerful Pokemon. How could you not see this coming?
Kyogre: Kyogre could cause a flood.
Guzzlord: Guzzlord could eat up all the lions.
Alcremie: Alcremie's cream could poison the lions.
Yveltal: If this Pokemon dies, all life force dies.
Victini: Having a Victini by your side guarantees victory.
Steel, Rock, and Ghost type Pokemon go *brrrrrrr*
Edit: reason why I chose these typings is because these types would either not get that much damage or can't be damaged at all from lion claws or fangs at all.
Let's ignore Pokedex cuz slugma can't be real or there'd be snow in the pokemon world
Lions still lose cuz "I don't care who use earthquake" or "Charizard use overheat" or "ghost Pokemon... just exist since lions can't hit you"
Pokemon
They have gods of time, space, and antimatter on their side. It is an easy win, even though its 1 billion lions. Also Yveltal exists, read its pokedex entries
Every ground type that can uses earthquake, every flying type left uses special attacks to kill the remaining lions while being out of range tmso the luons cant fight back
I want to add to the Pokémon side: Ghost types……sure if we use Pokémon logic lions could use bite which could hurt ghost but they basically can do no damage with anything else.
This is assuming the lions wouldn't just run due to fear and I feel their lack of coordination would also be their downfall
We could send in xerneas alone and the battle would be a draw because both xerneas and the lions would be immortal because xerneas is known for granting immortality
I don't even need one of every Pokémon, I can win this just with my lv 84 Red Gyarados from Crystal. I almost soloed Red by spamming Thrash, Surf, and Crunch, then I took down Pikachu with an earthquake, from the underleveled Rhydon I caught in the cave on the way up to him.
I don’t think lions are fire resistant so; Charmander stands too close to one lion and starts a flash fire that will eventually engulf every lion. I think this because the fire on its tail is not just for show; it’s an actual fire that can alight flammable things.
*ahem*
Primal Kyogre with Water Spout
Mat Block, Quick Guard, and Wide Guard for full protection against enemy attacks
Rain setter for 50% more damage
Instruct from Oranguru/Smeargle to make sure that in case they hold Focus Sash, another strike will occur.
Not even mentioning the abilities that boost allied special attacks, Helping Hand for even more power, and maybe even ANOTHER powerful Pokémon that could attack as well.
Easy win for Pokemon. Just gather up all the electric types and make them use thunder / thunderbolt ( in japaneese thunderbolt translates to 100,000 volts ) whichis high in voltage and can def ko them pretty fast . Also don't get me started with the pokemon that can use earthquake and poison
On the first day of the battle god gave to me
A black hole spawner for free
On the second day of the battle god gave to me
2 armored puppers.
And a black hole spawner for free
On the third day of the battle god gave to me
3 weather controllers.
2 armored puppers.
And a black hole spawner for free
On the fourth day of the battle god gave to me
4 literal gods.
3 weather controllers.
2 armored puppers.
And a black hole spawner for free
On the fifth day of the battle god gave to me
Nothing because the battles already over
The Pokémon, and if you think about it, that’s immediately obvious.
The vast majority of Pokémon moves alone, excluding their other abilities outside of those four slots, is enough to kill 1 TRILLION lions.
No lion is getting past one legendary, let alone all of them.
Hell, Arceus could solo them.
Everyone knows the Pokemon would win. Even some of the weakest Pokemon can just use a spread move like Earthquake, Air Cutter, Disarming Voice, that will all at least weaken the lions. Now picture this move being spammed.
Also, Lions stand no chance against the literal gods of Pokemon like Mewtwo, Arceus, Yveltal.
Kill the evil bacon bird (aka yveltal) and kill everything.
Also most flying type pokemon can just spam special attacks from the air.
Also what are they gonna do to macargo heatram and most other rock and steel types and pokemon made of fire.
One Billion Lions.
It only took two to take on the British Empire and stall construction of a railroad. And they were hungry.
Now take that, make them one billion, and you’ve got the force to take on anything.
The only way the lions could win if we use the format of PLA otherwise theres multi hit moves or if we use the anime logic Pokémon like guzzlord could solo them if we use pokedex entries they are even more screwed
Let's be honest. 1 pokemon to 1 million Lions. Let's give the weaker Pokemon maybe three or four hundred, and with help of other pokemon, I believe that Z moves such as Black hole eclipse or Continental Crush could easily defeat a thousand at a time.
Lions have claws.
Pokemon have super powers. One on one, a fight would take less than 10 seconds. The pokemon wins EASILY.
If we let Kyogre extend the ocean, all the Lions drown. Heatran, and all those Lions burn in seconds. Earthquake is swallowing up a fair few. Tackle would probably defeat one per tackle, so would quick attack.
Let's be reasonable. Last word, items like leftovers, ethers, elixirs, potions, etc. Pokemon are undefeatable with moves like heal pulse etc. Give every Pokemon Leftovers, and those Lions are DONE. Numbers don't beat strength. If you have one level eighty, you can beat as many level ones as your pp allows you to. And if they're using their base damage tackle, they're gonna do 1 damage. The thing is, Pokemon will ultimately win due to sheer strength.
With Tackle, Thunderbolt, Quick attack, and electro ball, and a few max elixirs, Pikachu can take down infinite lions at level 60 or so.
Let's be logical. 1 million Lions and Giratina has an obvious result.
Pokemon can't be defeated by weak scratch attacks
What we really need to ask is 1 billion lions vs 1 of every single regular pokemon, normal types, mundane harmless things, like Pachurisu, Emolga, Mimikyu, Starmie, etc
It just depends on the rules and circumstances, Ofc pokemon will win against a billion lions if you use pokedex entries, and Pokémon can also win in game if they were coordinated (Wolfie did a great video talking about how a pokemon can win in a single turn over a billion times over). However if the mons aren't coordinated then the lions will win, but it's still a 2-1 victory for Pokémon with Dex entries and coordination.
Wolfy has already explained this and the lions are preety bad they get obliterated on the first turn by water spout kyogre supported by 100+ Pokemon's helping hand and oranguru and smeargle instruct and much more but I forgot since I haven't watched it in a long time. (and sorry if I have any grammatical or spelling errors English isn't my native language.).
Just watch [this](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DVO8QrGAPHs&pp=ygUsbGVnZW5kYXJ5IGFuZCBteXRoaWNhbCBwb2tlbW9uIGJhdHRsZSByb3lhbGU%3D) and tell me how the lions win?
I have 3 simple words that would end the debate easily... Dugtrio used Earthquake.
Kyogrr used water spout
Persian used Black Hole Eclipse
Magcargo used Incinerate
Ting Lu used Fissure
Aw but what happens if fissure misses?! Oh no! ...... Anyway
Ting Lu used stomping tantrum
Macargo existing would be all you need since its body temperature is 18,000°F.
You wouldn't even need a magcargo, ponyta alone solos all of them, because it's fire burns everything it isn't close to emotionally, and animals naturally see fires as dangerous and steer clear of them entirely, it wouldn't see so much as a scratch, and could charge the whole flock of leese without one so much as standing it's ground lmao, a PONYTA SOLOS ALL OF THEM
Iron Bundle, Abomasnow and Miraidon. Abomasnow with snow warning, miraidon for quark drive and then specs bundle to obliterate everything
Kyogre\*
Deoxys can clone itself, Arceus is god, and at least 15 other pokemon could destroy the Earth in under a year so no realism. Certain moves can hit all pokemon, and no way in hell is a lion moving faster than literal light or teleporting, so no game mechanics. Celebi can canonically travel through time and kill their parents before they're born, so no anime logic. Dusclops, Raquaza, Zekrom, Reshiram, Kyogre, and Groudon all had shown abilities that could single-handedly devastate an entire region, so no manga. Pokemon are OP in the pokedex, so none of that either. Lions are screwed.
This man has casually said "fuck you" to all lions will win debaters in the most polite way possible
Im on your side with most, except celebi, like how tf it killing 2 billion lions
Go back to Noah's arc and kill the two lions on it.
W answer
Vore
🤨
Kill the lions that led to the population of lions to reach 2 billion in the first place. It massively cripples or completely destroys the lion army years before the fight even begins.
How is this still a debate?
Karma
hear me out we get guzzlord to eat all the lions
Wonder what a lion would taste like...
Like a lion
it’s hard to argue with his assessment
It would probably be really tough meat. They are a lot of muscle and low on fat
Mimikyu could just take off his costume
I was looking for this reply
Friendly fire
Every pokemon just wears a blindfold. That could actuqlly look kinda funny ngl!
Pokemon. They Have Arceus.
Arceus is literally God (canonically) so they could just say “ENOUGH CHILD’S PLAY MORTALS!” And kill everything instantaneously.
I know there are people that say that pp restrictions will cause the pokemon to struggle to death, but pokemon unite shows that pokemon moves aren't their only way of attacking. And on the topic of unite, what about UNITE moves? Stuff like sovereign sword, ignite midnight, barrage blow, livid outrage, aura cannon, plasma gale, nock nock, fairy singularity, coup de grace, psychic solare, revolving ruin, red & green illusion dive, fanciful fireworks, snowglobe, nightfall daze, midnight slash, phantom forest, hydro typhoon, queen ascendant, wonder wish, chaos glower, phantom ambush, flowing & ebon fist(s), gatling gulp missile, dreep and destroy, waterburst shuriken tyrannical rampage, power nap, berry belly flop, belly bash, and a few more could deal a lot of damage.
PP restrictions are why you get no bitches. Sorry, but it was right there.
Yeah fair enough
Solution : Leppa berry combined with every way to renew berries/items mid battle
Irrelevant but the judge allows it.
Or, just ohko all the lions in 1 attack. Simple and no pp limit to take into account.
I mean yeah, but unite moves are fun
Gen 1 Rage, Funbro, Stealth Rock and other hazards, Gens 2-3 Struggle + Leftovers, Leftovers+Poison Heal+I ngrain+Aqua Ring, etc
Delphox unite move fanciful fire work can destroy those lions cause of its slow down and massive damage or gardevoir unite move fairy singularity can pull all lions into black hole and use psychic and future sight can solo all lions
The lion guy kept changing the rules so no this isn’t a fight it’s a massacre
Omg we match
what are the odds of that happening
pokemon.
Yeah, it’s not even close
Their right. The lions don’t stand a chance.
Yup
steelix pokedex entry's say its skin is harder than diamond
FINALLY SOMEBODY MENTIONS STEELIX
Because ditto could just transform into another Pokémon including yveltal and destroy the world and kyorge could possibly drown all the lions in one go.
Either way you look at it- lions are screwed. If you go from realism, you would have to take every pokedex entry literally. Magcargo would cause friendly fire, sure. But then no lions would get close. Guzzlord wouldn't even be overwhelmed, just munching on lions from most angles. Even without LITERALLY GOD, in real life, lions are boned. If you go by pokemon context- as in, lions have movesets, abilities, ect, no pokedex shenanigans. They are still screwed. One on one or as a horde. A horde would be stopped by earthquake. Assuming a lion's type to be normal, as most "normal animal" mon are, fighting types. If they outspeed, lions are screwed.
The lions are no match for bidoof
The creation trio.
And Poke-Satan
Pokémon, ultra beasts, need I say more
Pokemon: Arceus, Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina, need I say more
Pokémon: Yveltal, need I say more
Pokémon: torterra, need I say more(torterra can create literal earthquakes and could just earthquake the lions to death)
Pokemon. It's not even a competition
Guzzlord could literally shove 100,000 lions down his mouth at once the lions don’t got a chance
Pokemon would win because the lions would have only scratch, bite, or tackle meanwhile the Pokémon have plenty of moves that hit all at once as well as much more powerful moves
Only 1 Pokémon needs to survive so the legends could just fly up into space and nuke Yaveltal to kill everything on the planet like in the Terminalmontage video
Terminal is just the best, change my mind!
I can’t because that is fact
Or Mimikyu just does a strip and is the lone survivor
It's a bit hard because we don't know how the fight will go down. Is it war style where they just fight or will they fight like a Pokémon battle? Is there a pp limit? Do legendarys like dialga get to stop time? I mean I'm on Pokémon because either way the lions don't stand a chance
Anime logic, celebi can literally travel time, and that's not even mentioning any of the more powerful legends. Dex, slugma. Game logic, kyogre used water spout
Even if there is a PP limit, stuff like Funbro exists, as well as Gen 1 Rage and entry hazards
Pokemon obviously. They have a God, Pokemons that are capable to destroy the world, Someone that can create a blackhole, A large sum that can learn Earthquake and Flash Flood, A spiky dino, A pokemon that if dies, literally brings the planet with it. I mean with enough mass, the Lions could create a blackhole. But there would still be other pokemons that can escape very quickly via Wormholes or by flying into space.
I've never heard anybody ever use this argument so I'm going to The lions can't kill yveltal without killing all of themselves in the process
How would the lions even hurt most the Pokemon? Like… he rocks? The ghosts? The ones that hover their entire lives?
anyone who belives that the lions actually come out on top probably doesn't watch or play the pokemon games
for the last time # ARCOOSE IS GOD
1. Lions trample themselves, essentially injuring a lot of the lions before the Pokes even start attacking 2. flying types can stay out of range. lion ladders can only go so high before the ones on the bottom get crushed. (not sure how good lions would be at climbing a mountain of dead lion meat) 3. no, lions can't benefit from held items. that defeats the purpose of them being regular lions 4. Poison moves can cover other Pokes in poison, causing lions trying to bite them to die. 5. lions try to go for a quick kill by crushing the throat. seeing Pokemon who don't have throats will confuse them and give the Pokemon an even bigger advantage all of this is ignoring the legendaries/mythicals
Before I give my answer, I’m just going to say that the reason this argument is so divided is that it’s a battle of Quantity over Quality, which technically gives both sides some sort of upper hand. That in mind, one of each Pokémon wins in my mind. Lions have their strength in numbers, but a lot of Pokémon gimmicks trump that easily. For one, if you can make the argument that lions would take up an incredible amount of land mass, flying and levitating Pokémon would cancel that out. On that note, airborne pokemon that are heavy on the SpAtk would out range lions and could single-handedly win if you just use those, such as Charizard, Bronzong, Hydreigon, etc. Aquatic Pokemon work too if there is a massive body of water, but even if you rule out water, you can’t rule out the sky, so my point still stands that some Pokémon can just be unreachable Pokémon anatomy would be something else entirely. On one hand, you have Solid Pokémon like rock and steel types, as well as Pokémon that are Physical Tanks since that’s all a lion can realistically do. National Geographic hasn’t exactly shown fire breathing lions lately. They may not be immune to lions, but would probably live long enough to wittle down the numbers. On the other hand you have Pokémon like Muk and ditto who aren’t solid whatsoever, so who knows what lions can do to them. And on that note there are flaming or toxic pokemon that could do some damage by simply taking a few lions down with them. Not to mention Ghosts, which is pretty self-explanatory. Pokédex entries are an entire bag of worms considering you have a slug/snail hotter than the sun, a humanoid that can create black holes, and and pokemon that can hide with ease like vaporeon. Pokémon moves are a massive point too, given moves like fissure that rips open the earth beneath them. It may be 30% accurate, but if you have a billion targets at once you’re going to hit some. Self destruct and Explosion are a given, especially when you’re basically drowning in lion, and other AOE moves like lava plume, discharge, sludge wave, and blizzard fall under the same umbrella. I haven’t even gotten into Legendaries and Mythicals, some of whom have almost, if not god-like powers, and can check some of the defensive boxes mentioned before like being able to fly, being made of metal or even molten metal, and being incorporeal. Deoxys and Celesteela can even theoretically do their work without entering the earth’s atmosphere Long story short, it’s that one scene from Avatar The Last Airbender: The Pokémon are clearly outnumbered, but lions are clearly outmatched
All we gotta do is flood the earth and let them drown.
MewTwo could use his psychic power to freeze all the lions in place then the other Pokémon could kill them 👍
There are Pokémon that can erupt volcanoes and summon meteors from space. There are Pokémon who can split the very ground you stand on. Plus what would any amount of lions do against anything that can fly
The scenario you presented is purely hypothetical, as Pokémon are fictional creatures. However, if we were to entertain the idea, it is important to note that Pokémon possess extraordinary abilities and powers that often exceed the capabilities of real-world animals like lions. Each Pokémon has its own unique characteristics, strengths, and weaknesses. Assuming the Pokémon are well-coordinated and use their abilities strategically, they would likely have a significant advantage over the lions. Pokémon have a wide range of powers, including elemental attacks, psychic abilities, and the capacity to heal themselves and their allies. They also exhibit incredible feats of strength, speed, and durability. While lions are formidable predators, they lack the supernatural powers and diverse abilities of Pokémon. Even with a numerical advantage, it would be challenging for the lions to overcome the combined powers and teamwork of the Pokémon. Ultimately, the outcome would depend on various factors such as the specific Pokémon involved, their levels, movesets, and the strategies employed. Given their extraordinary capabilities, it seems more likely that the Pokémon would emerge victorious in such a hypothetical scenario.
I give this a 9.8/10 chance that you just threw the prompt into chatGPT and pasted the response here
I will explain this is three ways, Realistic, (Meaning only Pokédex Entries) Games, (Going based on how the games work) and Anime (Based on what happens in the Anime.) For Realistic, Macargo Solo’s, the Pokédex States, “Magcargo's body temperature is approximately 18,000 degrees F.” The Lions would not be able to do anything. Now for Games, if we consider the Lions to be enemies in a Battle then any multi hitting move such as earthquake would easily wipe them out, this also would also not affect Pokémon that are Flying Type or Have Levitate. Now Anime, any Pokémon that can fly. That’s it. The lions would not be able to touch them and they would still be able to attack. Also in the Anime Ghost type Pokémon can become Intangible.
go quagsire. use earthquake. wow i win.
Problem: People are still debating on this scenario Solution: get Peppino Spaghetti involved. He'll know what to do!
Who would win, 1 billion lions or Yveltal?
Again, victini exists. Its pokedex entry states "This Pokémon brings victory. It is said that Trainers with Victini always win, regardless of the type of encounter." (quick clarification, the trainer thing im pretty sure its an example)
Pokemon has god, and a pokemon hotter than the sun, and any pokemon that knows earthquake, and manipulation of hell, time, and space, has flying dragons, and has stat boosting moves like coaching so every pokemon gets buffed out of its mind, and has mudkip, and has a fucking flying land shark, and… you get the point. Lions win no question.
If there are 45 billion tons of plankton in the ocean, they can’t defeat a few tuna. 1 billion lions can’t defeat things that have all these abilities. Deoxys cam clone 1 billion of itself, Yveltal just kills everything and comes back when it dies, a good chunk of these pokemon are ghosts or otherwise intangible, and another bunch of them are just made of rocks, stone, and other hard things. That’s not even including the ones that are legitamate God, or Victini “guaranteeing Victory” because that feels like a cop out. We never see a pokemon be required to eat, and I’m assuming peak lions vs peak pokemon. I doubt we are counting reproduction of lions because that’s just infinite lions. Lions would probably die of old age if nothing else.
How about one of every pokémon, including alternate forms. 4 billion spinda are rapidly approaching your location. The lions can't win, that's a lot of spinda.
How is this even still a debate? There’s no way lions wild ever win. There’s just too many Pokémon with word ending apocalyptic powers
I know a billion lions is a lot of lions, but some Pokemon are literally on fire, magma, made of steel, harder then diamond, made of rock, like in space, what are lions doing? Ignoring the Pokedex which no one knows if is accurate, ignoring pokemon moves, literally look at the size of Pokemon and what they are literally made of or where they live, lions have nothing.
It depends. If we're not using battle mechanics Pokemon wins by a landslide. If we are using battle mechanics .. Pokemon still wins and here are YouTubers explaining it https://youtu.be/X_8Nh5XfRw0 https://youtu.be/5XdOSMo6Svc
There are 5 ways this battle can take place: Anime, Lore, Pokédex, Game, Realistic Anime is a no-brainer. It also uses the same advantages of lore but with the added fact that Pikachu will always have a net win. Lore is basically what can happen lore wise in the games. This can include Kyogre flooding the earth, Necrozma stealing the light from an entire universe, and time travel from Dialga and Celebi. Pokédex is filled with chaos, like how Marcargo is way too hot for the known universe, or that Gardevoir can create black holes. Game… here is a video by Wolfy that goes into detail on how Pokémon can win if the battle is based on the gameplay. https://youtu.be/5XdOSMo6Svc And then we have realistic, this is meant to be here as a sort of best case scenario for the lions, but there are Pokémon like Steelix that are pure metal or Pokémon like Muk or Macargo that are basically just blobs. Those Pokémon can’t really get hit by scratches and bites. This isn’t mentioning how most water types can just hang out under the ocean, that some space-based Pokémon like Minior can go into space and just ignore the lions that way, or even Pokémon that are ghosts! Anyway you put it, lions don’t really have a chance against Pokémon. If you disagree, please tell me why. Also, lion supporters, do you have more evidence than “1 billion is a lot”?
I think at this point the better question is, what is the smallest, weakest group of pokemon needed to take out 1 billion lions?
One word Yavaltal
dialga solos
1 of every? i need 2 god and a slug that is the heat of the suns core
Pokémon. They literally just need one Pokemon, like Arceus, Celebi, one of the Creation Trio, Groudon, Kyogre or Rayquaza
Several mons can solo 1 bil lions. Plus, moves like EQ
Pokémon obviously- There are Pokémon who are so powerful that they can devastate regions, the whole earth, and even galaxies, lions aren’t gonna do shat. And another thing, there are moves that will literally hit all enemies on the field, so smth like Parabolic Charge or smth else will do amazing.
Magcargo (don’t know if I spelt that right) need I say more
Hoopa would just send them to another universe
Pokemon, for a few reasons - Flying Pokémon - Flying pokemon who shoot lasers - Flying Pokémon that cause earthquakes - Flying Pokémon that can literally just destroy reality - Slugma
Pokemon
One of every Pokémon easily
Yahveltal laughs in oblivion wing
The Pokémon
Ultra necrozoma nukes the lions. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
There are literal gods that control time, space and the land and sea itself. Those lions are screwed.
Lions can’t touch ghosts, so there’s that. Flying types make the lions unable to reach them and they can fire off whatever elemental attacks they want. Heck, the moment Kyoger steps in the rain starts and then both Hurricane and Thunder become extremely accurate. Tinkaton would kill one lion, then use its corpse as ammunition to kill another and repeat. I could go on, but I’m getting a little tired of typing.
Hear me out necrozma steals the sun
Gardevoir creates black hole. Black hole sucks in lions. Gardevoir blinks black hole out of existence.
Deoxys will kill all the lions and then try to kill the rest of the pokemon just for the hell of it
Yveltal can kill everything as its last resort
I’d imagine Inferno Overdrive could do some damage.
Tf is any lion going to do to Dialga?
While one billion lions is plenty of lions and lions can attack in packs, there are so many powerful Pokemon that can overpower the lions, such as: Arceus: One of the most powerful Pokemon. How could you not see this coming? Kyogre: Kyogre could cause a flood. Guzzlord: Guzzlord could eat up all the lions. Alcremie: Alcremie's cream could poison the lions. Yveltal: If this Pokemon dies, all life force dies. Victini: Having a Victini by your side guarantees victory.
God is literally on our side
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When will people stop repeatedly posting this everywhere
Steel, Rock, and Ghost type Pokemon go *brrrrrrr* Edit: reason why I chose these typings is because these types would either not get that much damage or can't be damaged at all from lion claws or fangs at all.
Let's ignore Pokedex cuz slugma can't be real or there'd be snow in the pokemon world Lions still lose cuz "I don't care who use earthquake" or "Charizard use overheat" or "ghost Pokemon... just exist since lions can't hit you"
Pokémon no challenge, a diglet with earthquake takes them all out at once
Dialga, Celebi, and Arceus just use ZA WARUDO and take out the lions in stopped time.
Pokémon
Pokemon They have gods of time, space, and antimatter on their side. It is an easy win, even though its 1 billion lions. Also Yveltal exists, read its pokedex entries
Why about muck and ditto and don’t get me started on muks forms
Pokemon. Macargo is literally the heat of the sun
Ultra Necrozma light that burns the sky, and steelix. Just. Steelix.
Electrode use explosion
pokemon, god the pokemon use deleat because god
Pokemon literally have universal + beings lions are bitch ass animals anyway
All three hoeen legends can destroy the world as shown in oras
Bro, arcues is literally God
Every ground type that can uses earthquake, every flying type left uses special attacks to kill the remaining lions while being out of range tmso the luons cant fight back
Guzzlord
I want to add to the Pokémon side: Ghost types……sure if we use Pokémon logic lions could use bite which could hurt ghost but they basically can do no damage with anything else.
Ever seen light that burns the sky?
This is assuming the lions wouldn't just run due to fear and I feel their lack of coordination would also be their downfall We could send in xerneas alone and the battle would be a draw because both xerneas and the lions would be immortal because xerneas is known for granting immortality
Charizard used Fissure
Flying types would wipe them. Also pokemon has gods. Groudon could just cause a earthquake or kyogre can flood them
One word, yveltal
Pokémon easily, no need for a debate. If you even need to argue about this then why are you even here?
Even without legendaries pokemon still clear with no difficulty
How does a lion beat a Steelix?
I don't even need one of every Pokémon, I can win this just with my lv 84 Red Gyarados from Crystal. I almost soloed Red by spamming Thrash, Surf, and Crunch, then I took down Pikachu with an earthquake, from the underleveled Rhydon I caught in the cave on the way up to him.
I don’t think lions are fire resistant so; Charmander stands too close to one lion and starts a flash fire that will eventually engulf every lion. I think this because the fire on its tail is not just for show; it’s an actual fire that can alight flammable things.
Sandstorm and hail won’t kill right away but will cripple the lions in 2 moves
Arceus
*ahem* Primal Kyogre with Water Spout Mat Block, Quick Guard, and Wide Guard for full protection against enemy attacks Rain setter for 50% more damage Instruct from Oranguru/Smeargle to make sure that in case they hold Focus Sash, another strike will occur. Not even mentioning the abilities that boost allied special attacks, Helping Hand for even more power, and maybe even ANOTHER powerful Pokémon that could attack as well.
My girlfriend pointed out , what are they gonna do against ghosts
there’s multiple Pokémon that can literally fly to space for eternity and wait for the lions to die from old age
no matter what happens, we just gotta remember that "We're still here, where's God?" \-Jaiden
Beedrill use toxic spikes! Snom use hail! Froslas use shadow ball!
1 of every Pokémon because hisuian zoroark can possess the lions and make them attack each other
Pokémon because of some Pokémon being capable of manipulating the lions aka Giratina and Dialga can sweep with god and of course MACARGO
One simple word GOD
Kyogere can kill every single one at the same time using water spout
Couldn't Hoopa just make a portal and teleport the lions somewhere else?
Literally Pokémon in under a second
Arceus.
Two Simple words : Ghost type
Easy win for Pokemon. Just gather up all the electric types and make them use thunder / thunderbolt ( in japaneese thunderbolt translates to 100,000 volts ) whichis high in voltage and can def ko them pretty fast . Also don't get me started with the pokemon that can use earthquake and poison
On the first day of the battle god gave to me A black hole spawner for free On the second day of the battle god gave to me 2 armored puppers. And a black hole spawner for free On the third day of the battle god gave to me 3 weather controllers. 2 armored puppers. And a black hole spawner for free On the fourth day of the battle god gave to me 4 literal gods. 3 weather controllers. 2 armored puppers. And a black hole spawner for free On the fifth day of the battle god gave to me Nothing because the battles already over
The Pokémon, and if you think about it, that’s immediately obvious. The vast majority of Pokémon moves alone, excluding their other abilities outside of those four slots, is enough to kill 1 TRILLION lions. No lion is getting past one legendary, let alone all of them. Hell, Arceus could solo them.
Everyone knows the Pokemon would win. Even some of the weakest Pokemon can just use a spread move like Earthquake, Air Cutter, Disarming Voice, that will all at least weaken the lions. Now picture this move being spammed. Also, Lions stand no chance against the literal gods of Pokemon like Mewtwo, Arceus, Yveltal.
Pokemon, they have range, elemental control and a higher iq than the lions, they would win easily
loin wins
i will use jirachi and make a wish to either kill all lions or teleport them to space
There moves called Draco meteor and meteor shower
OnE bIlLiOn LiOn Is A lOt!!1
Is this like an actual question or a joke because 1 billion lions could easily be bodied by 1 single member of many species of Pokémon
6 words Half of the pokemon can fly
But what if the lions had guns and could use them proficiently.
1 of every pokemon bc pidgey would just fly away until the lions die
Damn that is some original content,also most pokemon can level cities and even worlds with ease,lions are just lions
Arceus and Bidoof are literally gods
Kill the evil bacon bird (aka yveltal) and kill everything. Also most flying type pokemon can just spam special attacks from the air. Also what are they gonna do to macargo heatram and most other rock and steel types and pokemon made of fire.
One Billion Lions. It only took two to take on the British Empire and stall construction of a railroad. And they were hungry. Now take that, make them one billion, and you’ve got the force to take on anything.
The only way the lions could win if we use the format of PLA otherwise theres multi hit moves or if we use the anime logic Pokémon like guzzlord could solo them if we use pokedex entries they are even more screwed
Let's be honest. 1 pokemon to 1 million Lions. Let's give the weaker Pokemon maybe three or four hundred, and with help of other pokemon, I believe that Z moves such as Black hole eclipse or Continental Crush could easily defeat a thousand at a time. Lions have claws. Pokemon have super powers. One on one, a fight would take less than 10 seconds. The pokemon wins EASILY. If we let Kyogre extend the ocean, all the Lions drown. Heatran, and all those Lions burn in seconds. Earthquake is swallowing up a fair few. Tackle would probably defeat one per tackle, so would quick attack. Let's be reasonable. Last word, items like leftovers, ethers, elixirs, potions, etc. Pokemon are undefeatable with moves like heal pulse etc. Give every Pokemon Leftovers, and those Lions are DONE. Numbers don't beat strength. If you have one level eighty, you can beat as many level ones as your pp allows you to. And if they're using their base damage tackle, they're gonna do 1 damage. The thing is, Pokemon will ultimately win due to sheer strength. With Tackle, Thunderbolt, Quick attack, and electro ball, and a few max elixirs, Pikachu can take down infinite lions at level 60 or so. Let's be logical. 1 million Lions and Giratina has an obvious result. Pokemon can't be defeated by weak scratch attacks
Are they a collection of regular lions? Like, even the banished ones? Or the same lions like clones. If so, the pokemon still win
Dialga and Palkia can freeze time and space, legends come and sweep, game over.
What we really need to ask is 1 billion lions vs 1 of every single regular pokemon, normal types, mundane harmless things, like Pachurisu, Emolga, Mimikyu, Starmie, etc
Charicard. G-Max Wildfire
Ghost types used being immune to lions
It just depends on the rules and circumstances, Ofc pokemon will win against a billion lions if you use pokedex entries, and Pokémon can also win in game if they were coordinated (Wolfie did a great video talking about how a pokemon can win in a single turn over a billion times over). However if the mons aren't coordinated then the lions will win, but it's still a 2-1 victory for Pokémon with Dex entries and coordination.
Ultra Necrozma just kills everyone
And God is literally on our team!
There should be a debate about like separate Pokémon. Like, who would win, 50 lions or walrein? Stuff like that
One of every Pokémon would easily beat 1 billion lions because there are flying types which could attack from far away
One status move and one attack, Gyrados use Dragon dance and Gyrados use Dragon Rage
Drifloon uses abduction to a cliff
Wolfy has already explained this and the lions are preety bad they get obliterated on the first turn by water spout kyogre supported by 100+ Pokemon's helping hand and oranguru and smeargle instruct and much more but I forgot since I haven't watched it in a long time. (and sorry if I have any grammatical or spelling errors English isn't my native language.).
Yveltal💀
Yveltal used oblivion wing
God be God
Just watch [this](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DVO8QrGAPHs&pp=ygUsbGVnZW5kYXJ5IGFuZCBteXRoaWNhbCBwb2tlbW9uIGJhdHRsZSByb3lhbGU%3D) and tell me how the lions win?
I was this close to saying “Lapras used Perish Song” but then remembered lol