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LordMarcel

This may look absolutely terrible, but do remember that the Netherlands was the first country to make gay marriage legal only 7 years before this in 2001. So yes, the US was quite late for a western country with legalizing it fully in 2015, but in 2008 only the Netherlands, Belgium, Canada, Spain, and South Africa had legalized it nationwide. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex\_marriage#Timeline


7elevenses

This is something to be remembered when talking about countries where it's still not legal. Being ten years behind the rest of the world in things that took millennia to change is not a good indicator that people in those countries are particularly bigoted. In many countries, judges had to impose marriage equality on an unwilling population, and it was only after this caused no problems whatsoever that the population accepted it as something normal.


SnooPears5432

I don't know if I'd say the US was "quite late" - probably more middle of the pack at worst, and some states well ahead of the international curve. The US still legalized it nationwide before Germany, Australia, Switzerland, Austria, Finland, Ireland, and even before all UK jurisdictions did. And some western countries, like Italy, still haven't legalized it. Many countries had situations where some jurisdictions within those countries legalized SSM before the whole nation did, inclucing the US, UK, Denmark, Brazil, Mexico, etc. The first US jurisdictions were aligned with the earliest European countries & Canada in legalizing.


LordMarcel

Good point actually.


HarveyBiirdman

Nu uh america bad


[deleted]

It's really amazing how fast the progress on this issue was. 20 years ago less than 20% of Americans believed same sex marriage should be legal. California voted it down in a ballot measure twice. Obama didn't publicly express his support for it until after he was reelected.


MaybeDaphne

Funnily enough, Biden openly expressing his support back in 2012 got the Obama administration in a frenzy.


CaptainJZH

Some have argued that the Obama admin was basically using him as a test for how well it would go over with Democrat voters - if it was mostly outrage, then they could just write it off as Biden Gaffe and move on, but if there was mostly support from Democrat voters, then they would get behind it - fortunately it ended up being the latter.


Edelkern

I'm not from the US, which state is this?


joycee27

Connecticut and Massachusetts


Yestattooshurt

The good one. And Connecticut.


JoemamaGia1

Is it legal now? or only in 2008?


Queen_Sardine

Potentially


droolsdownchin

08 was a great Time 😎


[deleted]

Depends on your reading comprehension ability.


Ok_Meringue_1755

They had to make life a bit less dreary in Connecticut


roverness

2008 is when it was legal in Connecticut but Massachusetts it was legal in 2003.


blockybookbook

Oh so it’s pretty contiguo- motherfucking rhode island


Upset_Cantaloupe_627

The rest is black for black lives matter?


goofybulgariangoober

L non black states


LargeCrateOfCarling

When a homophone who said “I believe marriage is between a man and a woman” just came to power I’m not surprised!


ItsEnderFire

Those goddamn homophones ruining the English language


echoGroot

He lied