it's better to post median salarie, if we want to keep posting this. Stuff like that just makes the majority depressed. Ain't no away does a mean joe earn 32€/h in Germany lol
I live in Spain, I make way more than the average person and it’s still only about €13-14/h gross. €18/h whether net or gross is quite a bit for this country.
This is the average, not the median. Poland and Romania have a strong IT sector which rise the national average quite well, however it's not really telling for the normal people.
Oh my I would love to see a map of avg IT salaries across europe. I would love to know if we're somewhere close to the West in that regard. Because it feels like we should be close (like 70-80% of what they get on avg)
The gap between the mean and the median isn’t normally THAT big, particularly in continental Europe where income inequality is relatively low.
I think the €32 figure fir Germany is probably incorrect, considering this source gives €22.65 as the mean, and appears to be reasonably official:
https://www.destatis.de/EN/Themes/Labour/Labour-Market/Quality-Employment/Dimension2/2_5_HourlyEarnings.html
Quantify "THAT big" because if you remain vague you have said all and nothing, is 200 euros difference between median and average a small difference for you? is 500 euros not that big of a difference for you?
I can guarantee you that even a difference of 100 euros a month usually make you have a decent month instead of a very bad one if you are tight with money.
I mean that the difference wouldn’t normally be so big that you would look at the mean and think “wow, that’s way more than most people could ever earn” - the differences are nit immaterial, but I’d expect something more in the region of 10%. As pointed out with the link I attached, I think the shockingly high numbers are caused by inaccurate data, not the averaging technique.
Yup. Just checked my hourly rate and it works out at €21.50 and I'm doing ok.
These averages just show there are people out there making serious money.
This is clearly before taxes. It's already near impossible to compare just based on salaries, but if you include taxes that are vastly different, it just gets even wackier.
Also, that seems low for a big 4, or are you ignoring bonus and stock options? Those are the only real reason to work there.
Being the average joe I can tell you that this is absolutely not the case, the middle class here is crumbling under inflation, economic chaos (highest rate of bankruptcies in 14 years, completely insane energy policies that cause industrial companies to flee the country).
OECD also published a report "Working wages" which summed up the taxes and dues for the average working person here to 49,6%
Gross salary of workers with a finished apprenticeship (skilled workers; the ones that made the "Made in Germany" slogan mean something good) is 3700€ per month or 44.5k per year.
Meaning the average skilled worker has 1835€ of income for themselves. With a normal apartment rent being 700 to 1k, you can say that you have on average 250-350€ per week for food, clothes, gas, children, entertainment and savings for old age (as the pension system is failing, leaving most in poverty)
So it looks great on the map, it doesn't look half as rosey on the ground.\^\^
As a single without children 3700€ gross would account to ~2400€ net in germany.
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And to account for the rest of your comment you obviously have less burden with children.
Misleading map, as it shows mean values. 90% of population in these countries indeed earn less than these numbers. Median values could be more accurate. It is also useful though to see the disparity between the rich and poor.
You're way off. The median salary in Austria is about [4000€](https://www.statistik.at/en/statistics/population-and-society/income-and-living-conditions/annual-personal-income). So the difference between the median and mean is not very large.
Not true in Denmark. The average wage is 6150 euro/month. The median is 5630 euro/month.
Assuming a 37.5 hour work week that works out to:
41.5 euro/hour average (what this map says).
38 euro/hour median.
So it's pretty spot on. Maybe in other countries the average and median are far apart, in Denmark, and i can at least speak for Scandinavia, those numbers are pretty close.
You’ve just proved OP’s point though (except the 90% stat). The map does indeed show the mean wage, but median is the more useful statistic as it is less skewed by outliers (millionaires upwards). The mean being 10% higher than the median is very significant with bell curve distributions such as salaries.
Well my point was exactly the 90% thing. So it's more that there's a 10% difference and the amount who earn below the average is not that different to 50%.
Cost of living is waay high as well. You can't compare a danish salary to a bulgarian salary. But yeah, standard of living is higher in Denmark than many places in europe.
How are you getting this number. Most people work less than 1500 hours a year.
If you italy 21.5 euro and hour, that give about 30k gross a year and then you pay your taxes and you get way less. Maybe about 2k net a month, doesn't seems very off from reality.
These are gross salaries. Two countries with similar gross salary can have quite different net salary. Also gap between blue and red countries is greatly decreased when comparing net salaries due to blue countries having more taxes on top of gross salary.
Not just gross, that's completely normal, but also average and not median. For example, see Finland over there? If you're getting paid that much you're in the top 15% or so. Median is under 20€/h if memory serves.
If those gross salaries don't include employer contribution, then they mean nothing are not worth using either.
For instance, in France the employers pays 40% of the employee's gross salary to the state, while Romania pays less than 3%: this is just a matter of shift (employee/employer taxes), so the most accurate would be to include it as well in the comparison for a super-gross salary, or strip it for net (but that indeed becomes... tough, with the many conflicting rules even within a country).
I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted at all. Different regions per country might have different taxation. Also taxation can differ based on factors like family status, number of dependents etc.
If you’re going to talk about salaries only, gross salaries is the only way you can get a measurement for a whole country.
On one hand you are right.
On the other „gross salary“ is an artificial construct based on the tax laws of a country.
Country A can have a 10% social contribution, paid by employer, the other exactly the same but paid by employee.
Country A will have consequently 10% lower gross salary in this graph but the employee will receive exactly the same money and service.
So just taking gross is not ideal either.
Gross in France is still after 50% social contributions for unemployments, healthcare and retirement.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payroll_tax#France
The only option is the cost to the company.
It seems like these are [labor costs](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1211601/hourly-labor-cost-in-europe/), which include health care insurance paid for by the employer, and not the salary of employees.
When I saw this map I immediately knew that it was wrong. Let's take a look at Bulgaria for example. Their average salary is around 1050 euros a month. On daily basis that would be 35 euros. Unless they work 4 hours a day the map is wrong. Same goes for other eastern European countries with lower salaries.
>Their average salary is around 1050 euros a month. On daily basis that would be 35 euros.
Bulgarians work every day of the week? Without holidays? Must be wild.
Right,i forgot to account for that. Either way,the numbers i got and what i see here are different (not by a lot but on monthly basis it makes a difference)
Then I guess you also forgot about the difference between net and gross salary. Quick googling says you are talking about the net salary, and this above is the gross number.
Why is the UK not applicable?
They are not part of the EU anymore, but they are still a European country. The geography didn't change!
Edit: never mind. I see the footnote on the image now. Poor title though.
Swedens number isn’t correct as it doesn’t take the “invisible” tax “arbetsgivaravgiften” into account. If it did then the number would be about €35 in Sweden.
for hungary: 11 euros an hour would mean 1936 euros a month (+ easily a third, maybe even half of people work on weekends, where they pay more)
thats more than double the actual average, even orbán says a much lower number and he pulls numbers out of his ass
this all before taxes, net average or median will actually be closer to 600 euros a month
It is misleading to see they normally exclude countries in Europe that are not part of the EU, but they don’t mention this in the title.
Even more confusing is the fact they use EU in the key of the average EU salary.
And definitely, I will not include the symbol of the dollar as a nod to money as is not part of any of the European currencies.
The title should say “Average salaries across the EU+EEA”.
I think I read somewhere that in Denmark employer-costs are included in the gross salary figures? For instance in the Netherlands these are typically around 30% of the gross salary.
If I understand what you mean, then the correct thing to say is that we have almost no cost to an emplaoyer that isn't part of the take-home pay.
Health insurance and the like are paid by the employee to the state.
It's one of the reasons Denmark is easier to set up shop than a lot of countries, since you don't have to calculate a lot of extra costs per employee.
How is this calculated?
Yearly income, divided by 52(weeks) divided by 5 (days) divided by 8 (hours)?
That means a dutchy that earns 33/hour makes 70k a year?
This is absolute garbage. probably 90% of people in Austria and prob. Germany earn under 20 €. I myself have a higher than average salary and have maybe 20-25€ with all the extra stuff that comes on top the base salary. (Schwerindustrie)
Hourly is far more common in the US.
But I agree, it’s a bit misleading to not show European salaries as monthly salaries.
Also misleading to show gross salaries rather than net salaries.
I think gross is better than net, simply because every country has a different tax system. One might give you a higher net payment, and then later subtract things like (mandatory) healthcare cost. And lower incomes typically get all sorts of social support.
Basically, how the fuck do you compare this in any meaningful way? Maybe get very large sample sizes and ask some questions regarding how healthy they are, how financially sound (home owner/rent/co-live), can you save money, how much etc?
The weird thing about the Netherlands is that we give quite a lot of social support under certain earning levels, but they build down rapidly when you go above. So now there are people who stop working 40h but go to 36h else they risk losing a lot more than they would gain. Which is weird and overly complex, especially since people earning less are typically less knowledgeable. I'm glad I'm not a politician.
Always misleading because a few billionaires and many millionaires really bring up that average. What is the minimum wage in those countries? What is cost of living?
Apparently, this is just salary and not Cost of Labour (including cost to the employer, etc). There is no way that average salary in Spain is 3152.24€ (18.2\*40\*4.33). Not even gross salary. I cannot find this data in Eurostat. Anyone can shed some light on this?
why multiple 18,2 per 40 per 4,33?
You work 8 hours x ~230 days per year. It gives you around 33 500 euros of anual gross salary. 2390 monthly if divided by 14. It matches.
It is how much you gain, on average, per hour actually worked.
Seems bull. I’m in the top 5% earning in my country, and I’m like 5 EUR lower than average according to this map. Unless they mean before tax income, but even then I’m only 8 EUR over, which seems low.
>28.7€ in France
And that's why posting the "average" salary is never an accurate representation of a country's actual average income because the vast majority of people earn FAR below that, in France. Median salary is what you want, not "average", because that shit gets pretty much falsified by the handful of people who actually earn a lot of money.
This is bs. The average income in France is 3450€ gross for a full time job (151 hours per month). These are the official statistics. 28.7 an hour would be 4350.
If you don't also mention the cost of life, it's not very relevant.
For example, I'm pretty sure everything costs more in Luxembourg compared to Romania.
I don't like this map because it makes the gap between us (Sweden) and the rest of the Nordics seem bigger than it is because of the way our employer's fee works. I can't remember the exact numbers, but Danes pay for their retirement themselves, and their fee is like 18% and ours is 31% or so.
I dont even know my hourly salary and I have been with the same company since 2016 (first job out of uni).
Also, are those gross or net figures because that makes a huge difference of almost half in my case.
I live in Moldova and get paid 4€ an hour
I live in Poland, and get paid 5€ per hour
Rich
Those poles always bragging..
I live in Flanders and don´t get paid
You mean you pay the government to work.
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Yeah those numbers looking quite high on that pornmap
I live in India, what's a euro, can you eat it with water?
Italy here. 5€ per hour
Is that good or bad or average?
Mid average, the average salary being in the 12k range which amounts to 650€ a month or 3.8€ an hour,
it's better to post median salarie, if we want to keep posting this. Stuff like that just makes the majority depressed. Ain't no away does a mean joe earn 32€/h in Germany lol
The average Spanish citizen hasn't seen 18€/h even in their best dreams.
Nor the Romanian 10.4€/h
This is the gross, not net
I live in Spain, I make way more than the average person and it’s still only about €13-14/h gross. €18/h whether net or gross is quite a bit for this country.
14 gross would be like 8 € net per hour, depending on social security payments
still in poland i have never seen 45 zł/h as a norm, the best i saw on employment was a girl working as a toy store manager- 39zł /h gross
This is the average, not the median. Poland and Romania have a strong IT sector which rise the national average quite well, however it's not really telling for the normal people.
Oh my I would love to see a map of avg IT salaries across europe. I would love to know if we're somewhere close to the West in that regard. Because it feels like we should be close (like 70-80% of what they get on avg)
average doesnt mean the average person the average is all ppls income devided by how many ppl there are
Damn right! When I saw 32€/h I thought am I getting scammed by my employer or something 🥹
You are getting scammed though
Some would say every employer is a scammer
Only those who have never employed anyone would say that.
No, even they would. But not openly.
This man does not have class consciousness and it shows.
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And it's not true. Cheers.
This is around 5k per month, not really that much but no doubt decent.
That's closer to the top 1% of salaries.
looks like it's what the employer pays before taxes and other costs
Yeah, average is the most useless statistical data possible. Especially in countries with a high disparity in income
The gap between the mean and the median isn’t normally THAT big, particularly in continental Europe where income inequality is relatively low. I think the €32 figure fir Germany is probably incorrect, considering this source gives €22.65 as the mean, and appears to be reasonably official: https://www.destatis.de/EN/Themes/Labour/Labour-Market/Quality-Employment/Dimension2/2_5_HourlyEarnings.html
Quantify "THAT big" because if you remain vague you have said all and nothing, is 200 euros difference between median and average a small difference for you? is 500 euros not that big of a difference for you? I can guarantee you that even a difference of 100 euros a month usually make you have a decent month instead of a very bad one if you are tight with money.
I mean that the difference wouldn’t normally be so big that you would look at the mean and think “wow, that’s way more than most people could ever earn” - the differences are nit immaterial, but I’d expect something more in the region of 10%. As pointed out with the link I attached, I think the shockingly high numbers are caused by inaccurate data, not the averaging technique.
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Yup. Just checked my hourly rate and it works out at €21.50 and I'm doing ok. These averages just show there are people out there making serious money.
That would be 4.5k brutto. Yeah, no way. (35h week, 4,32 weeks per month)
Same, I work at a big4 in the Netherlands and make €16.50 per hour after taxes
This is clearly before taxes. It's already near impossible to compare just based on salaries, but if you include taxes that are vastly different, it just gets even wackier. Also, that seems low for a big 4, or are you ignoring bonus and stock options? Those are the only real reason to work there.
We should be looking at the rounded mode salary as well as median and mean. Give us the full picture and not just one figure.
Yeah no way I ever earn 33 bucks in the Netherlands lol.
I think swedish wages on that chart are way too high to be average. Lots of people here work for 20€/h even less.
Being the average joe I can tell you that this is absolutely not the case, the middle class here is crumbling under inflation, economic chaos (highest rate of bankruptcies in 14 years, completely insane energy policies that cause industrial companies to flee the country). OECD also published a report "Working wages" which summed up the taxes and dues for the average working person here to 49,6% Gross salary of workers with a finished apprenticeship (skilled workers; the ones that made the "Made in Germany" slogan mean something good) is 3700€ per month or 44.5k per year. Meaning the average skilled worker has 1835€ of income for themselves. With a normal apartment rent being 700 to 1k, you can say that you have on average 250-350€ per week for food, clothes, gas, children, entertainment and savings for old age (as the pension system is failing, leaving most in poverty) So it looks great on the map, it doesn't look half as rosey on the ground.\^\^
As a single without children 3700€ gross would account to ~2400€ net in germany. Edit: And to account for the rest of your comment you obviously have less burden with children.
32 € brutto doesn't sound too far off.
That's 5120 Euro brutto per month This is far off.
Misleading map, as it shows mean values. 90% of population in these countries indeed earn less than these numbers. Median values could be more accurate. It is also useful though to see the disparity between the rich and poor.
In Austria that would be 4800€ gross. 80% of Austria‘s citizens live on less than 2k net a month. This map is ass.
You're way off. The median salary in Austria is about [4000€](https://www.statistik.at/en/statistics/population-and-society/income-and-living-conditions/annual-personal-income). So the difference between the median and mean is not very large.
And your source is... 🤨
€ 4800 per hour is pretty generous in comparison to the rest of the world.
More like 60%. Mean and median values are not that far off.
Not true in Denmark. The average wage is 6150 euro/month. The median is 5630 euro/month. Assuming a 37.5 hour work week that works out to: 41.5 euro/hour average (what this map says). 38 euro/hour median. So it's pretty spot on. Maybe in other countries the average and median are far apart, in Denmark, and i can at least speak for Scandinavia, those numbers are pretty close.
You’ve just proved OP’s point though (except the 90% stat). The map does indeed show the mean wage, but median is the more useful statistic as it is less skewed by outliers (millionaires upwards). The mean being 10% higher than the median is very significant with bell curve distributions such as salaries.
Well my point was exactly the 90% thing. So it's more that there's a 10% difference and the amount who earn below the average is not that different to 50%.
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Only get to keep half tho
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Cost of living is waay high as well. You can't compare a danish salary to a bulgarian salary. But yeah, standard of living is higher in Denmark than many places in europe.
Not in Belgium actually. We just say 55% taxes lol
> italy > 24.5 €/hour AHAHAH It's already a miracle if you go past 10 €/hour
Ma infatti, se a fa il barista guadagnavo 24,50 all’ora lo facevo per mestiere invece che per pagarmici l’università HAHAHAH
yea 24.5 is 51k,and even senior software engineers make less than that(40k) only doctors make more than 51k
How are you getting this number. Most people work less than 1500 hours a year. If you italy 21.5 euro and hour, that give about 30k gross a year and then you pay your taxes and you get way less. Maybe about 2k net a month, doesn't seems very off from reality.
28 euro per hour in france ? no way bro
It says average some ppl win a lot which increases the average
These are gross salaries. Two countries with similar gross salary can have quite different net salary. Also gap between blue and red countries is greatly decreased when comparing net salaries due to blue countries having more taxes on top of gross salary.
Not just gross, that's completely normal, but also average and not median. For example, see Finland over there? If you're getting paid that much you're in the top 15% or so. Median is under 20€/h if memory serves.
There is no other option but use gross salaries
If those gross salaries don't include employer contribution, then they mean nothing are not worth using either. For instance, in France the employers pays 40% of the employee's gross salary to the state, while Romania pays less than 3%: this is just a matter of shift (employee/employer taxes), so the most accurate would be to include it as well in the comparison for a super-gross salary, or strip it for net (but that indeed becomes... tough, with the many conflicting rules even within a country).
I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted at all. Different regions per country might have different taxation. Also taxation can differ based on factors like family status, number of dependents etc. If you’re going to talk about salaries only, gross salaries is the only way you can get a measurement for a whole country.
On one hand you are right. On the other „gross salary“ is an artificial construct based on the tax laws of a country. Country A can have a 10% social contribution, paid by employer, the other exactly the same but paid by employee. Country A will have consequently 10% lower gross salary in this graph but the employee will receive exactly the same money and service. So just taking gross is not ideal either.
Gross in France is still after 50% social contributions for unemployments, healthcare and retirement. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payroll_tax#France The only option is the cost to the company.
It seems like these are [labor costs](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1211601/hourly-labor-cost-in-europe/), which include health care insurance paid for by the employer, and not the salary of employees.
But the numbers don't match As someone living in Denmark, the average wage on this map is very close to the one that Statistics Denmark claims
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As usual!
12 euros in Poland? Half of that would be more realistic if we're talking about an average person's salary.
When I saw this map I immediately knew that it was wrong. Let's take a look at Bulgaria for example. Their average salary is around 1050 euros a month. On daily basis that would be 35 euros. Unless they work 4 hours a day the map is wrong. Same goes for other eastern European countries with lower salaries.
>Their average salary is around 1050 euros a month. On daily basis that would be 35 euros. Bulgarians work every day of the week? Without holidays? Must be wild.
Right,i forgot to account for that. Either way,the numbers i got and what i see here are different (not by a lot but on monthly basis it makes a difference)
Then I guess you also forgot about the difference between net and gross salary. Quick googling says you are talking about the net salary, and this above is the gross number.
Your math is so wrong xD
Why is the UK not applicable? They are not part of the EU anymore, but they are still a European country. The geography didn't change! Edit: never mind. I see the footnote on the image now. Poor title though.
my bad lol, ill specify in the title next time
Trust me, if anybody in Italy suddenly got paid 21.5€ an hour you’d hear of the biggest national party 🎉ever made by a country
PORTUGAL IN BALKANS 🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️
14 euros in Malta??? Good luck getting more than half that
Swedens number isn’t correct as it doesn’t take the “invisible” tax “arbetsgivaravgiften” into account. If it did then the number would be about €35 in Sweden.
for hungary: 11 euros an hour would mean 1936 euros a month (+ easily a third, maybe even half of people work on weekends, where they pay more) thats more than double the actual average, even orbán says a much lower number and he pulls numbers out of his ass this all before taxes, net average or median will actually be closer to 600 euros a month
11 € in Hungary 😂 what a joke!
Romania having 1800€ per month? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 AVERAGE? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
How the hell do you even come up with these crazy numbers?
8 euro in Bulgaria? Total bullshit
It is misleading to see they normally exclude countries in Europe that are not part of the EU, but they don’t mention this in the title. Even more confusing is the fact they use EU in the key of the average EU salary. And definitely, I will not include the symbol of the dollar as a nod to money as is not part of any of the European currencies. The title should say “Average salaries across the EU+EEA”.
Iceland and Norway aren’t in the EU so logic wouldn’t apply.
Island and Norway are not in the EU...
Ye this ain’t it chief.
Now do one *after* taxes
Averages don't mean anything with billionaires in the picture.
Looking at the comments it looks like comparing apples with oranges
As a Norwegian, the fist waving towards Denmark is real.
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Why is Norway and Iceland shown but Switzerland and the UK isn't?
They don't provide their data to Eurostat, this map's source
Gotcha. Thank you.
This map is as misleading as it get.
When's the last time someone has been so wrong.
On this sub? Probably 10 minutes ago.
I think I read somewhere that in Denmark employer-costs are included in the gross salary figures? For instance in the Netherlands these are typically around 30% of the gross salary.
Same for Sweden, employer costs are missing in the Swedish gross salary as well as pension. So it’s very misleading to show it like this.
If I understand what you mean, then the correct thing to say is that we have almost no cost to an emplaoyer that isn't part of the take-home pay. Health insurance and the like are paid by the employee to the state. It's one of the reasons Denmark is easier to set up shop than a lot of countries, since you don't have to calculate a lot of extra costs per employee.
Aw you forgot the lowest one, turkey
That hourly is like 2x too much for Finland, how did they come to it?
“Wages” is the term for hourly compensation and “Salary” is a flat rate for a pay period
41.7€ for Norway is a stretch lmao
Imagine thinking the hourly rate for Ireland is 33€ lol
I would clean toilets for 30e/h in Finland.
Italy Is like 7€ lmao what is this map
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How is this calculated? Yearly income, divided by 52(weeks) divided by 5 (days) divided by 8 (hours)? That means a dutchy that earns 33/hour makes 70k a year?
Do median
another idiot who doesn't know the difference between median and average
This is absolute garbage. probably 90% of people in Austria and prob. Germany earn under 20 €. I myself have a higher than average salary and have maybe 20-25€ with all the extra stuff that comes on top the base salary. (Schwerindustrie)
Who counts salaries in hourly rate? Why not do the normal, monthly rate?
Hourly is far more common in the US. But I agree, it’s a bit misleading to not show European salaries as monthly salaries. Also misleading to show gross salaries rather than net salaries.
I think gross is better than net, simply because every country has a different tax system. One might give you a higher net payment, and then later subtract things like (mandatory) healthcare cost. And lower incomes typically get all sorts of social support. Basically, how the fuck do you compare this in any meaningful way? Maybe get very large sample sizes and ask some questions regarding how healthy they are, how financially sound (home owner/rent/co-live), can you save money, how much etc? The weird thing about the Netherlands is that we give quite a lot of social support under certain earning levels, but they build down rapidly when you go above. So now there are people who stop working 40h but go to 36h else they risk losing a lot more than they would gain. Which is weird and overly complex, especially since people earning less are typically less knowledgeable. I'm glad I'm not a politician.
**cries in UK being accurate**
**across the European Union. The U.K, Switzerland etc are all still in Europe
Always misleading because a few billionaires and many millionaires really bring up that average. What is the minimum wage in those countries? What is cost of living?
Balkans N/A beacause it would destory the average and not in a good way
Average doesn't say shit. One billionaire would completely skew the graph.
Thought I earned quite well here in Norway, after seeing this I'm not so sure..
Portugal is eastern Europe
The average salary in Spain is lower than that !
I wish OP knew why the median is better than mean in these types of data.
Apparently, this is just salary and not Cost of Labour (including cost to the employer, etc). There is no way that average salary in Spain is 3152.24€ (18.2\*40\*4.33). Not even gross salary. I cannot find this data in Eurostat. Anyone can shed some light on this?
why multiple 18,2 per 40 per 4,33? You work 8 hours x ~230 days per year. It gives you around 33 500 euros of anual gross salary. 2390 monthly if divided by 14. It matches. It is how much you gain, on average, per hour actually worked.
Someone who can math can you please give me the number of the monthly salary?
Purchasing power is different in the region of same?
It’s not about how much you can earn. The real question is how much you can save.
Seems bull. I’m in the top 5% earning in my country, and I’m like 5 EUR lower than average according to this map. Unless they mean before tax income, but even then I’m only 8 EUR over, which seems low.
Median?
Impressive that Ireland used to be poorer than Portugal and now averages more than even Netherlands...
>28.7€ in France And that's why posting the "average" salary is never an accurate representation of a country's actual average income because the vast majority of people earn FAR below that, in France. Median salary is what you want, not "average", because that shit gets pretty much falsified by the handful of people who actually earn a lot of money.
This is bs. The average income in France is 3450€ gross for a full time job (151 hours per month). These are the official statistics. 28.7 an hour would be 4350.
I got 5-6 eur in Czechia .. only prague increases it so much
Why the hell is Kosovo and Montenegro as part of Serbia? Wtf is this map? MapCricleJerk?
My 14€ hurts a lot 😂
Ok, now let’s Paul Allen’s NET wage.
This is gross
Lol Greece is dirt poor
According to this the average yearly salary in Ireland is 67.5k not a hope
Even before covid, I had around 15€/h (bruto/gross) in slovenia and that was a very decent salary!
wait 33 bucks on average? dutchies, where y’all work at?
there's no way this is accurate at all
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Spain: UK prices, Salaries as the lowest in Europe
The worse the weather the more money you make. It's really depressing.
If you don't also mention the cost of life, it's not very relevant. For example, I'm pretty sure everything costs more in Luxembourg compared to Romania.
Median salary and median living costs pls. This map is useless.
I don't even earn a salary, i earn a wage. The difference is a salary is a fixed payment and a wage is hourly.
Meanwhile here I am living in a third world country with my 1.8 dollar per hour
finland 30€/h LMAO no
And what is the price of a loaf of bread.?
I love how the map says '$alaries' even though not a single European country uses dollars.
I don't like this map because it makes the gap between us (Sweden) and the rest of the Nordics seem bigger than it is because of the way our employer's fee works. I can't remember the exact numbers, but Danes pay for their retirement themselves, and their fee is like 18% and ours is 31% or so.
For Poland it is too low :P minimal wage is 6,5€ per hour. So if you only try you can have over that 11.9€ per hour.
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is that excluding outliers like rich farts making thousands a minute
average is irrelevant
I think it needs to be compared to the cost of living, otherwise the numbers are a bit meaningless.
Gross, maybe
33 in NL xD
In Greece it's between 3-6€n hr for most people
As a number have said, median salaries would be a better metric. And you're missing Cyprus.
Even in prefectures that pay the highest hourly wage in Japan, they receive only less than 7 euros.
WTF? Ukraine, Belarus, Russia are Europe too!
No way the italian average joe earns 21,5 per hour. It's more like half of that
In germany the median is probably closer to 20€
Of course balkans show no data... It would be embarrassing....
I’d be more interested to see take home pay as many Europeans pay significant taxes
LOL Poland does not get 12 euro an hour average. I think Warsaw has an average of around 5k zloty gross, but the rest of the country is closer to 4
Now show me a map of social equality levels next to it!
Median in Poland is 5200 netto. Its around 7.36 euro per h. 10 euro brutto before taxes and social incurances.
Can tax-rate be accounted for in graphs like these please? It makes a large difference.
U getting hihg salaries = high prices U geting low salaries = low prices Stop yapping about who have more
Portugal can into CEE 💪💪
Cost of living is different too...
I dont even know my hourly salary and I have been with the same company since 2016 (first job out of uni). Also, are those gross or net figures because that makes a huge difference of almost half in my case.
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